Gary Owen Opens Up About His Divorce From Kenya Duke, Falling Out With His Kids, Healing + More

old ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Man came. When did I come last time? Married? I was getting married, get married? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were time. That was a costume. That was a costume. That were you saying? Why? Kid? We were going to say, ask how you were doing? Was good? I was asking it before I got here, Like how much longer are you here? I'm not absolutely sure at the date, but they said fall so in the aw sometimes I feel like you said that to

a black woman before in your life. Boy, but don't have a date. I quit today. You know. They gotta find replacements, so that takes a little time. I gotta find my co host sot too much though, Yeah, in order for us to throw that out there, we have to announce it. I think it's better you just weren't here, shut up, got a new show out, like like when she got married, like nobody knew and it was just married. Yeah, you know what I mean? Is that how you're going

to go about your life from that one? You know it? What the hell happened? What? What do you okay? Let they say what do you think happened? Well, according to be to you last year, good job your wife at the time, Ken your duke was slamming a woman she believes to be your mistress. She said, you definitely know who I am. You didn't care at Gary on Comedy was is married and you don't seem the kid. He still hasn't seen his kids, which is weird because you are a baby mama. You read it like with it

at a time. That was the first was the fourth thing that came out right, the first that was a good one. Though. Know why because me and Duall and Carlos Miller we always say black men don't cheat because we don't. You know, so you was, you was out here doing that and you know you've proven us right. No, don't cheat. But and you spent a lot of money too on the mistress. Because I saw that was part of the story. What is did you cheat? Did you have a mistress? Here's the thing. No good marriage ever

ended because of cheating. I'll put it that way. No good marriage ever ended because of cheating. Bad marriages have, but no good marriage. Now that's debatable. But that's a great talking point, Gary, that's a good like that could start a great conversation. But also, like I I left, This whole narrative was like she left me because I got caught cheating. Correct, I left. Really I filed first. I made the phone call saying I don't want to be divorced. I don't want to be married, so I

want to divorce. So when everything came out, I just stayed quiet. But this whole narrative was I got caught out there, she left me. That's not what happened. Okay, I thought she filed for a divorce. No, I filed first, she filed after me. What was it working? You just you can get into all kinds of reasons, but the end of the day is you're unhappy, and then you you sit here and you stay in it for the kids and everything else, and then you're like, God, I'm miserable.

And it's weird because you feel selfish for choosing your own happiness. It's weird how that happens, because women always say you're gonna be out there and you're gonna be doing dirt and do this, do this? Leave? So what I did, That's what I do. You try to make it work at least we Yeah, a couple times, like there was a I left a couple times we were together twenty three years. There were a couple of times that I left, but nobody knew. Wow. But this last time,

we're just like, I'm just just unhappy. So how is it filming a show? The reality? Yeah? The reality said, were you guys okay then? Or were you like, I'm gonna try to stick it through? And we were. We were in a good place during during the reality show, but it was it was after that. I left once after that, and then I left again. This last time, I just went, I'm just I'm miserable. How should why should we believe you? She said, you're a lying narcissist.

Gary isn't there to go to though? The narcissist part. As soon as the guy leaves, he's a narcissist. A narcissis would have made a comment, what do you mean you said, I mean, come on now, but it's it's that's that's always to go to the nurses. Um. The one that got me that that you read it so much about you, Like I was reading about myself, like Dany, this dude's violent, and I was like, well, I'm reading about myself the debat because I was. I was, I

was there, I was present. I liked being a dad. I mean, there wasn't a time my kids never ruled the bus, Like if I'm home, I'm taking him to school picking them up, and if not home, she's doing ith, going to practice, whether it was volleyball, basketball, going to games. I didn't miss nothing. I didn't miss a birthday, you know.

I remember we think like a man too. July third, twenty thirteen, and I caught we got off for like five I got on the plane so I could make sure I've made my daughter's birthday or eleventh birthday, to make it back. I didn't go to sleep. Wow. I mean, it's not like I deserve kudos for that. That's what you're supposed to dad. Yeah, so I liked being a dad, so now to be called a debbut one, you can't be a debbut to adults. I've said that before, but

right now, like you can't be a debut. Okay they're grown. Okay, okay, they're grown. Yeah you know, but um, it's also like I haven't talked to him like a year and a half or two kids. Yeah you haven't. Yeah, like I just are mad at you. They're mad because I left their mom though, so I left their mom. So what so for people want to say, like what happened? Most marriages, right, they don't work because of infidelity, money abuse, mental abuse. So what was the reason why I didn't work? Why

couldn't y'all hold it together? What was the reason you said you weren't happy? Why weren't you happy? Trump? I'm just kidding for everything. No, I don't know that there's a there's a lot of reasons. I mean, what's important to me is like not to throw her to the bus because I want my kids and her to still have a good relationship and always have a good relationship.

So it doesn't mean no good to like get into what she did, you know, but you know, I just do you feel that she's lashing out because her feelings are hurt, without question, and I know that. Does that make you feel bad that obviously she's destroyed over that. You guy've been together for twenty three years, long time. That's why I don't go in on her. I get it. I heard it. I heard her. I broke up the

family dynamic and everything. But even when I called. I remember when I called, I didn't I said, hey, I'm just not happy. I'm gonna file. You didn't do face to face. I tried it the first time. I tried it face to face. Okay, I want not doing that again. So this one's going over. Let's just say I'm not doing that again. Okay. I was like, we just went over the phone. So when I called her and we were talking, we talked for like five hours, and I

thought we were going to keep it quiet. We would just be like and even she said we were a good example of a married couple. Let's show how people can get divorced with dignity and everything. And I don't know what happened. TMZ got ahold of it, and I don't know, but you know, I I filed in Ohio. We had two residences. We had one in Ohio, one in California. I filed for divorce in Ohio. She filed

in California. So I when I found it, when I saw a TMZ, my lawyer callings, like, we think of process servers on the way trying to serve you, because that's a big deal. Hey, getting served, that's the whole story itself. Me on the run. Oh my god. We didn't want in h I mean, you didn't want to get No, I didn't want to divorce in California, Ohio. She filed in California. You get a half. They take half in California or something like that. On board. No,

it's in Ohio. I don't want to know, but you know, the process server. When my lawyer called is like, dude, because I remember I was in Naples, Florida. It was a Friday night. I had two shows. I get off stage and I'm like, ah shit, because I'm getting text messages and everybody sent me the links to BT and people and all that. I'm like this, how this happened? My lawyer said, you got a show? Say yeah, she goes, you got cancel it. I said, what he means? She

was word you're gonna get served. What's that. I didn't know what a process server was. She was, no, you understand, she goes, the process server serves you. Chances are the divorce could go down in California. That happens, That's what she said. California is fifty fifty state between she can get half of everything for the rest of your life. I said, say, lest this show's over hundred people that night, lest a run. If you look at my social media,

I don't make a post for like three months. I switched my sale number my cell carrier because I'd be watching the first four d eight. They'd be pinging them until they kissed the killers. How did they ever catch you? No, I was on the run, bro, Now I'm just going to really. I went to Maine for a week. I had the Appleachian Trail on West Virginia. I went to Montana. I went to North South because I mean it was I was rainy, mall straight cash on me. I canceled

on my credit cards. I was on the run, bro. They almost got me. Colardo Springs almost got me. Springs, No, calrad Springs almost got me. The guy chased me. I said, I'm the last special. I said, I turned into Morris chestnup from Boys in the Hood. I'm just chasing me down. He tried to throw the paper. Mars got caught. Yeah, Mars got caught. No I didn't. You didn't have a pre nup. Then we didn't have done. We got married. I mean still, I'm just asking because people who are

getting married now there's talk about pre nups. Yeah, you should get one. No I didn't get No. Does she work yeah, I mean she flips houses and she had the travel company and stuff. So people will say, is that you know, she sacrificed raising the kids while you had your career. She deserves We we sacrificed. We raised the kids together, you know what I mean. But if you were there, because you were on the road, you would travel and do it. Shows people would say, well,

doesn't she deserve she deserves half. No, no, no, she don't. Twenty three years. That's a long time I've been with my wife. That's what I'm getting at. I'm not gonna say nothing bad about her, but you don't know the whole story. Okay, don't ken to them for a year and kids, Yeah that sucks. That ain't gonna lie because did you try to call them? Oh, I've done everything. I've done everything I have. I've gone to Greensboro because my daughter's a day and t knocked on her door.

She wouldn't answer. I just I tried to see her the airport one time, try to catch her. Then you know, it's just it is what I I don't know what to do at this point because I'm like blocked on social media. I've gone to every outlet to try to get ahold of my daughter. I went to Venmo, I went to WhatsApp, and every time I reach out it's like then I'm blocked. So it's like dang when you send money, no no, no no Venmo, just say hi. Oh, don't say hid I know money attached to it? Dad? Okay,

what did that go back? Because yore yo were doing this together, like y'o were getting a divorce together. You said you had a five hour conversation. You told the kids and then wanted to go left with the kids because we didn't tell the kids we were gonna like

wait and like do it together. And they had to hear the TMZ that I found out, and then I had to I had to lie to my daughter one time because the processor was coming and I didn't know, and she was supposed to come to Baltimore after it hit the fan, and I was like, come to Baltimore and we sit down and we just have a weekend together and we could talk. And then I couldn't because I wasn't she wasn't served yet and I wasn't serve.

So I had to tell my daughter. I said, you can't come, because if if she's with me and she gets served, I'm served. So it got like loving war type deal, and it sucked because I had the lighter and be like I had came out. I came up with some reason. I don't know if I'm going to the show in Baltimore, but I still I flew or to um Arizona to hang out with her cousin, because like it's important to be with somebody this weekend. So I said, go go hang out with your cousin Arizona.

I got it, but I had that was that was the one thing I lied about. I'm not sure you can say you was ducking the process server. I don't know what do you mean. I don't know if you should get on the radio and it's already done. Though, like that's done. Like we're we're in core right now. We're going with the divorce is happening. Okay, Okay, it's not. It's not final yet, but we're still hashing out stuff. No, the process servers, they're unreal. They're unreal. Boogey man man,

you just make me scared of the process. But you don't you don't know who it is and who wasn't. Because I would never fly into a city I was performing at because she kind of had a leg up because my schedule's online. Right when I tell you I stayed in the she's got served like this, she gets this water. No, one time I was in I would never fly into a city I was going to. So

one time I was in Baltimore. I flew into Pittsburgh and drove to Baltimore and I stopped at like a Bob Evans because I was in like an Amish country. I'm like, I'm safe here. Also, one black dude walks in. I go, what's he doing here? Dad? And he goes, yo, carry I said, not today, not today. He came to me. I'm throwing banana bread at the brother Grady chasing around. Bob Evans said, bro stop chasing me. No, I don't know.

I ran away from him. I don't know. The other white people in the restaurant gets scared when he starts like what Yeah, They was like, what is going on? Dude? I ain't that dude today. I'm like, you didn't scream for help. I told my open I go start the car, start the car. I got it in like duke boys. Ohio, Hio, okay, Ohio. Yeah. It took took a lot, but we finally got she got she got served before I did. And uh, you know, it's just but what do you think is fair? Um?

I don't know. There's a lot of kids talk about still because it's not final, but I mean, m I don't want to want to say anything because it could be using. So, you know, anyway, I think about twelve dollars laughing. How did they catch her though? How did they catch oh? Got her? We got her at a Panera bread drive through. Stop paying somebody at the drive through.

It's like in the drive through games blocked in with two cars and then the process servers like, let's go time, And I was like, dude, this is not the born identity he was with him had to be blue. No, no, it was I didn't. Here's what happened. I hired a process server and I paid twenty four seven surveillance. Like would would not she would not come out the house. She was like not coming out there like and the process was like, she won't come out, nobel come out.

I said, act like you door dash. My son's always ordering food. And then she was like. They was like drop it at the door. Like we got the ring camera, she goes, they just say drop it at the door. I was like, dang it. So I had to hire a different person, and me and her flew. We flew in the Sacramento and so we don't want to fly in to San Francisco, Oakland because we don't know she

got a lot of cousins in the bay. So we went in the sack, got a rental car and drove and I said, yo, she shops a lot and she grocer shops a lot. I said. We pulled into a safe way. She was pulling out. I said, no way, and the processor was like, should get her now? I said, noah, we can't. We can't block her in. We had a follower like twenty minutes on the highway and I'm in the back seat hiding because I didn't want to see her in the passenger seats. Now I'm back and keep

ducking up and she goes. I think she knows this us, like she has no clue. Come on, so we got her. She went into Panera and she got blocked in and then we got her. I hope you're telling the truth, because man, if not, you are about the unleash of black woman's going on your ass. I ain't saying nothing bad about her, but you're saying something. You're talking period. She's gonna have something to say, I know, but I'm wondering why now. But I never said I'm not and

I won't say anything bad about it. This is just what happened. Yeah, yeah, it happened like she got served up Panera bread. I did file first. Nothing I said didn't happen. But why why now, though, Like, why talk about it now? Because it went quiet? It was quiet. Uh, I don't know what. Everybody kept telling me, like you should tell your side, and I'm honestly it's probably also this is another effort for my kids to hear it. Yeah, it's the road to you and Kenya being civil. Like

what do you think has to happen. I don't know. I think the divorce has to become final first, and then then we can start the healing process. Uh. But right now it's like geez acaus other as. They can't get you worried about her exposing your N word tape. Oh god, that's ever happened? Nebraska. I'm an O House state fan bro with your kids. So how do you like? Because you're dad, so you gotta pay for ish? So how does that work? Because you paid for college, paid

for this, paid for that. I'll be honest, I paid for the first year and a half at A and T. And then my daughter got really upset at me and she said, I don't want you paying anything else. Stop. But they really man man they mad man, Yeah yeah, And so I was just but like you know, we always talk about the betrayal part. The stuff that got me was like my circle, like I had to completely change it, like my my openers. They did some dirty stuff with the divorce, was like telling my kids stuff

about me and things like that. And then my dad was the worst. My dad, Dad all that dad whole back bitch, Oh my dad did the bitch, bitch shit of bitches. You gotta ed us out probably right. No cousin this motherfucker. So when when a divorce hit the fan of the process of my dad kept calling, texting, man, call me, call me. I got your back, did it? And keep mind this is the dad that went around when I was growing up, and it kind of came back when I got in TV and movies. Weird how

that happens this. So one of the weeks I was hiding out, I went to Sedona with um. This girl that I'm seeing right at this point, it's not missus side chick. This is June. We have been said. We had been separated since January. It hit the fan in March to them twenty one, that's that's who she was. Probably ken you was probably talking about. She's upset, Yeah,

yeah about her. So, um, we were in Sedona and we went to Grand Canyon and I took a picture and I sent it to like five six people in my inner circle that letting people know I'm okay, keeping people up there and where I was. My dad was part of that, right, So my dad, I go to Cincinnati, like in July fourth last year, I go to Red's game and I got a suite and I'm still nobody's

been served. I'm still being careful, you know. So I had to get a sweet because I didn't want somebody be like, here's peanuts and papers, you know what I mean? So I, uh, my dad got win, got mad. Then I ain't take him to the Reds game. Sends me a voicemail, cusses me out and everything. This sends in a long tech so I don't include him and stuff. And he's come to expect this from me, And I'm going, is he mad about a Reds game? I called him

and we've done this before. We cussed his other We got an argument, cussed him out, he cussed me out. I cussed him out. Hung up this bitch. That picture of me and the girl he sent it to my ex. Wow, then that's how she found out. That's where that all came from. Then he posted the picture I sent on his Facebook page with the middle finger EMOE in front of it. Then he posted a picture of my ex wife on his Facebook page and said, I got you back to this divorce. You've always been like a daughter

to me. I respect him. He don't like black people to poor black women. Don't like this mugg is a Trump. He's a Trump or Sumper. Like I ain't saying he was at the Capitol. He's at the monument when they rushed. He made a trip. I think he just got cool feet the last minute. Who does that? Today's son though that you went around though, oh my god, man post and then to give her like the only thing you did. You didn't hurt me. You didn't hurt that girl. You hurt my ex, and you hurt my kids with that.

You didn't hurt me, you know what I mean? Now he's now, he's he's you know, he's um. He's always posted up on his uh Facebook about what a good mom they got, stuff like that. I'm like this, you bit, can you get him some red tickets? You really don't feel it a baseball game? Keep on? Motherfucking never took me to a baseball game growing up. Now, now is the new woman black? A white dude? Don't worry about that. I need to know they're always gonna be black. Why

why I was singing medic Claudia Jordan. I remember when things were hit in the fan and then she was blaming Claudia for something that was um. So when I when I called and said I wanted to divorce. You know, you're you're so worried that you're quote unquote path this is gonna catch up with you basically, right. And so that weekend before I was in Dallas and I use the same trainer every time I go to Dallas, and Claudie introduced me to the trainer. It's it's a female trainer.

So I guess she went to the trainer's page and saw a picture of me and her that I didn't tell her I took that picture with the trainer. Keep mind, it's a public place, which took a picture, and she just I guess she took that and was like, I must I must be sleeping with that trainer in Dallas, which wasn't true. And Claudie introduced me to the trainer basically. So that's how Claudia got in the middle of But

that didn't happen. That didn't happen. How was this process affected, just you mentally and emotionally, because it can't be easy. I know you laughing at I'll tell you what though, A lot a lot of people reached out, like a lot of dudes that have been through messy divorces in our business. You know, I don't. I'm not gonna name names, but I'll keep our conversations private. But a lot of a lot of people. Um but mentally it gets to you sometimes that you've be in the car and you

just be like the wrong song comes over. So yeah, it gets taxing a time because you're alone and like I was there the whole time my kids grew up, you know, so it's like to be now to have no like contact with them. It's like, would you ever tell the kid of the real story? I know you said that you wouldn't would tell the whole story because you don't want to guess make her look bad. But it's not looking bad. It's just like I don't want it's it's not my place. Really, it's not my place

to tell it. She could tell it if she wants to. Three I'm not you know. But here's the thing with with the divorce too. We always asked what the man did. We always do that every time the divorce the man had to do something. It's like this, We never like say look what what like if it's a bad marriage's bad mirror? Because when I called her and said I wanted the divorce and I said, Yo, I just I

think you're gonna be happier. I'm gonna be happier. I said, I want you because she was say like I need this from me, this ory and this year, I said, and I couldn't give it to you anymore. I just couldn't. So I was like, I want you to be happy. I want you to find somebody else. And you know, there's no malicious intent on my part. I thought that's the route we was going. But but you get you know, I also knew that you know, she was. I think it's like, as a woman, you're like, what what didn't

I do right? And he had to be doing something else, you know what I mean? But we never asked what the woman? Don't it? Love? And never anticipate that things were in this way? You know, just think about like the earlier days and you think things are forever and we just love each other, and then you never expect people to just be at war like this, yeah, which is the very one side of war. Come not really at war. I just want to get I want to

I want to have a relationship with my kids again. Obviously, because like I had a show in Sacramento about a month ago and our oldest, my stepson, his aunts came to my show and I got worried. So his aunts on his real dad's side, you know, and I saw him. They was at the meet and greet and I was like, oh no, I didn't know what was coming at me. And I looked at him and they walked up on the stage and I said, are you mad at me?

And they said no, we can never even matter. You took care of our Emelio like, so they acknowledge like, oh, through all whatever whatever, like you know, they was like they saw the bigger picture, like, oh, you basically raised the kid that wasn't yours, you know what I mean? And now he's he's he's cool. President society during that time, how did you make money because you were on the road,

you weren't doing shows, you were hiding and ducking. But you still have two mortgages you still have to pay for King. How did you keep the money coming in? Yeah, we still have those numbers. No, I was, I was still on on the road. I was just careful. Now I would tell the clubs, I call it clubs A look, I ain't been served. I need secur like we would have security like in the front, almost like plants, like undercover cops. I said, I need I need one of

your security guys in the front. If anybody gets up, they cannot come towards the stage. Baltimore had like a plastic hockey thing around it, the Baltimore County Like I felt like I was playing for the Rangers. You were preparing for comedians getting attacked long before you'repelling Chris. Yeah. Yeah, because there was one time, one time in Baltimore. Uh, somebody tried to give my opener a Manila envelope because yeah, I got this show in Pittsburgh for Gary. I was like,

that's not how we do things. And he came in the back and he's like, yo, this guy said, you can't accept anything. You just gets in the lobby pumping his social media everything. I said, you can't accept nothing. Because you accept something, I could be served. So that could have been another instance. I don't know, you don't know who's a problem to them. Dude's a trick and that could do. In Karlo Springs, he almost got me bro almost. But ahead, now go ahead. The portrayal parts

the worst. Why do you keep saying portrayal, Like what are my dudes man, like people your opening comedians, they just they dirty. Man, that's dirty. You don't tell like, no matter what happens, you don't ever go to some dude's family and talk about especially do put money in your pocket so to to to go to my kids and everything and talk shit about me. I'm like and telling them stuff like why would you tell them that?

You know what I mean? So, I just how you hold you Your youngest she's twenty, she's a she's at A and T in Greensburg. You missed the twenty first birthday of the other ones you those those those monumental. Yeah, I never missed the birthday. And then he's last. I missed the last two for both geez, and I'm hoping that that gets better. Yeah. So that's why when Charlman said why you coming on, I go, well, eventually I was gonna have to talk anyways. I mean, you don't

have to, but eventually, you know you gotta. You gotta dress elphin in the room. I did in my special little bit. I was going to ask you that how does this play into your stand up? Now? I've heard when Marlon Wayne was up here, he said anything can be funny. But how do you turn this into material at all? Oh no, it's funny, Like you can turn funny. You don't have you don't have to. You don't have to make it about her and what she did and make her to be some evil person. But you can

make anything funny. I kind addressed in my last special a little bit. But the new one, I'll hopefully it'll be final by them and then I could just talk and it's not even about her, It's about me. What was I feeling, what was I going through? Why did I do what I did, and where I'm at now with with with my life. Are you nervous about your black fan base, especially women black women? Nah, they're good,

they're rocking with you. Yeah, because when it was funny too, I was some city and I was in my hotel for like eight days straight, and you're just reading the internet and you're just like you go crazy, but there's nothing else to do, Like you're like, you're just in your room and I can only watch so much TV, so you just you're And it's funny because the blog sites that I read I keep popping up. I go, ah,

wake up, like again something else. So it starts the best with your psyche a little bit, and then um, somebody called me and made sense that. They said, your talent is not going to allow you to go broke. They said that to me, and I said, I need to hear that. And then I was in a I was on stage when the first time I got on stage after shit hit the fan, and this lady in the back, I'm like forty five minutes in my act.

She goes, I love your little cheat masks and I go, you don't know, how about I need to hear that, not that word. But she's like, we don't care. What did you cheat? Gary? That's the thing everybody wants to know that I won't can you don't let us know? Since you don't want to tell, she'll let us. Yeah. Yeah, but if you did, you did. If you did you did, you know you did. But you know, I'm I'm going back when you if you're just so unhappy in a marriage,

you're just like, I can't keep I can't keep doing this. Yeah, And it's bad as a as a dude, because you're in there for the kids, You're trying to be there for him, but then you're just like, I can't do it. Anymore. He was already emotionally mentally disconnected, completely checked out, completely, like he was just like your roommates. And I was like, I can't. I just can't do it anymore. Now. Did I think it would be this bad with the kids? No,

that I think it would be bad this bad with her? Yes, I was. I was mentally prepared for her last out because you're kind of blowing up the spot a little bit. You know, you're coming in going I don't want to be married anymore. And I think I can't speak for her, but I think women are like, oh, why wasn't I good enough? You know what I mean? Ye to figure out like what the kids like? He was there. So the fact that you with your daughter, like, can you

imagine your daughter not talking to you ever again? Yeah, because that's your daughter. Your daughter probably hates how you did mom, And but what you still would talk to you because she still would want to get both sides, She still want to have a conversation, She still would

want to have that relationship. Yeah, but she don't want to hear that even if even if what you say it makes perfect sense, like you're emotionally mentally disconnected, but kid, nobody still wants to hear that, you know what I mean, like still working out with mom? Yeah, because you want you want to you know, and I and you know, and my daughter's eyes and my son's eyes. It's like you did her wrong. You know? How could you do that to her? Blah blah blah. I'm just going can we?

And my thing is to sit on my kids. I don't want to talk. I want to listen. I want to hear how they felt when it happened. How do you feel about me now? And then we could? I think it would really hurt them the most. Probably it's finding out through TMZ. Yeah. That's because you go to school with your classmates and then all of a sudden it's bang, and it's like and it got it got dropped on like Friday night, Like I'm sure my daughter

was out with her friends and stuff like that. My son I was just like this, oh Friday night, not like Tuesday morning. Do you think you sabotaged the marriage on purpose because you was ready to be out? So it's like, you know what catch me? I don't care, uh, I mean there's there's some validity to that. I don't think that was my mindset. I just think it was more like I just I couldn't. I just couldn't do

it anymore. And I think with with her with me filing first, her betrayal was, how so you planned this? That's that was her thing, Like you planned this, you went and got a lawyer, and you had you've been you've been like leaving me on and you knew this was coming. But I was like, in my mind, I was like I had to do that. That's how divorce works. You get to lawyer, you got to protect yourself, and then you call and you hope, you know, work it out.

But because it was, it was odd when it was like you're reading all these people going, I'm glad she left that dusty white devil, you know what I mean. I was like this, she didn't know, you know I left first. You're not denying you're a dusty white devil the key word. Okay, it's true, man, damn man. So you don't think, y'all that would be even cool again? I do. One day I can laugh about like my part in the divorce, I can own it with her.

I'll keep that between us and everything, but also her part in it, like I eventually I'll be able to laugh about it. I know, I know I'm not really malicious like that. I'm not. I don't have malicious bones in my body to like, except for my dad, So listen, I'm not I'm not saying she did. But if she did cheat on you, was it get back for what you was doing? M hmm. Because the male legal is very fragile, we can dish you, we can't take it

unless you're unless you're emotionally checked out. Unless you're emotionally checked out, then I think that's like you. And this is one thing too. If if you're with a woman and even the thought of her cheating doesn't affect you, yeah, you should probably get out. I agree with you. You should probably get out like it. It wouldn't have like if she would have came to me at the point when I filed, If she would have came in be like,

well I'm seeing somebody else. I would have been like good, Yeah, you know what I mean, Like good, Yeah, that way you're you. You can focus your energy on him and move on. Hopefully he's the right guy for you. People don't discuss that enough. What you're talking about just being emotionally disconnected because it's always like like named all those things, early abuse and cheating it sometimes things just run his course. And there wasn't none of that. There was no mental

physical abuse with me and her or the kids. None of that ever happened. Like it just it just didn't. We did a while back and then but this time therapy would have been just spinning the wheels. Like I knew I was out. I knew it, and I just and the thing was, I stayed in it longer than I should have for the kids, and I didn't want to hurt nobody. So you're just staying in it and you're coming home going, man, I don't want to be here.

I don't want to be here. And we had, you know, we just was like I just didn't want to be there. That bad thing is, even with your kids, they're never gonna like your new relationship, regardless of how great the woman is, they're never gonna like it because they're always going to look at that as a disrespect your mom. That's gonna be a tough thing to Yeah, it could be,

but how does she feel about and another black woman too? Yeah, I promise you if it was another race, it probably would have been a little she took it a little different. Really think. I don't think so. I think it'd been worse. Yeah, don't. If he would have left, Let's say he would have left, and he would have left with a white woman, and they posted a white woman. It makes sense. Dusty white devil, dusty white devil, and think about that. Yeah, that's what

I'm saying. Like this, But how is a new woman dealing with it? How is she dealing with everything? Because I'm keeping everything. I'm not about to go there. And why would you trust her? Though? Who a new woman? What are you talking about? Why would you trust her to keep things quiet? You don't have a baby on the way, do you know? I don't have a No, I don't have tens. I'm just kidding. I'm saying, why would you trust her? Let's look, man, let's focus on right,

let's focus in the past. Let's foke on this white devil trustiest? Oh man, I just want to I guess yeah, because he was like, why would you come on and say it? Now? I go, I guess. I figured this was the right platform, and I knew coming on here like I could really say my piece without being so emotionally. Um, how do you call it? Separate? At this point, like I can just speak on the facts and not be like, well, this is what she was doing and this is how

she was feeling. I can't speak on that. I just tell my part. I left, I wasn't happy. I own what I did between us. She knows, and I don't have to and I don't have to bring up dirt on her, talk bad about her. It's pointless, doesn't help. It's just another thing for the blogs to talk about. We actually have Kenya and the would you like to talk to you mother? We do have that thing called what's that thing called? What's it called that? Fair? Fair air trade? You know when somebody comes up and tells

their side. So free she wants to come up. We had to feel free, look feel free, and she can air whatever she wants about me. You know, that's on her. I'm not doing that. I'm not. I don't think she would, you know what I mean, I don't think she was. You got Instagram, Well you're still part of the well dud, She's she's going in so much like man, it was like getting that, It was like it was like getting a fight with freaking Tyson Fury she's coming. Did you

ever hit her? And like be like could you? I never? Never? Never, no, no, no. But here's and it sucks because it is loving. More like I am literally follow in the advice of my legal team attorney where they said you can't reach out because it comes up in court. Yeah, anything you do comes up in court. So I'm like, they said you, I know it sucks, but you have stocked communication with

her kids. Oh my gosh, April or May last year twenty one, Like she's text a couple of times and stuff like that, but as far as me responding, it's been a while, just because I'm once the divorce is final, what I hope is like then I can call her anybody. Let's sit down and if you got to yell at me, yell at me and get it off your chest, just calling it in a reason being because you know who the real winners as your attorneys. But he can't attorney

and her attorney are caking off. Yeah, that's whatever they gotta do. They Oh my goodness that I would have hate to see that build. But I've seen how they do it in court. I see how they take your words or something you do and just completely twitch you like, that's that's not what happened. That's that was a Joe I said on stage or things like that, like God and every every every dime you spend. They're bringing up like they they got upset. I went to the super Bowl.

I mean waiting the Bengals my whole life to go to super Bowl. And they were like, hey, what dude, Like I'm like, I'm tricking off my money on the super Bowl. They didn't know I made money on the super Bowl because I bought uh Dwayne Wade and Gab got the suite at so Far Susan Bengals went, they couldn't go. I bought the tickets off Duwayne. He said how many you want? I said eight, give me all eight? About all eight at costs for him, So he didn't

make no money and lose money. I just based paid for him, so I was able to and I and I that's what I wanted. I want to take my kids to the super Bowl. That's when I flew to Greensboro and try to see my daughter. It was Saturday, Super Bowl Sunday, and I knocked and she wouldn't answer, and I was like, I was trying to get her like, come on, I got a plane go and she wouldn't go.

And then, uh so I took some other people, but I sold the unused tickets and made made money off the super Basically it is Dwayne and Wade know this what that you made money off his tickets? The boy, Yeah, y'all bought off you know what I mean. But as

a friend, he was like, but I took. I took people in Dwayne's crew as a thank you, like the you know, you know Sean, I don't know if you get no Chantelle Shantell's and yeah, I took Seantell because she's the one that helped facilitate the deal between me and Dwayne everything, Chante, Roxy, Terry Chantelle. Yeah, so I took Yeah. Yeah, So I told her, I said, I said, dude, I'm gonna give you two tickets because you helped seal the deal and my kids wasn't going now, so I

just she went and everything. So it was like I made money off Super Bowl. It wasn't like I went and and and tricked off. I actually made money off those you ret flirting with Windy Williams and like str show. Well I did not, Yes, she did, asked me out. I didn't. Oh, yeah, she did ask you. You went out with her? Right? You went out with her? Right? I met in a public place. That's going out. Still, No, when you catch er home and two and from that's

not that's going out. No, you was outside public place. I thought it was gonna be with a group. So I did not go on a date. I'm not going out, Gary, did not? She she publicly asked you out on television. Then you met her later that day at a restaurant. That's going out. Gary. That's my thing with this is why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't I if someone like her and you don't even think of as a mogul, but

she is. She she rolled the dice on her radio show and got her own talk show, and everyone's like you crazy, you making cake on your radio show and it worked out. So why wouldn't I get a chance to go one on one? And just like, how did that work? How'd you do that? Like I'd be stupid? We always say like you should always people doing better than you're not better than you. But people have done stuff that you haven't done in your world, like picked

their brain, would stuff. So it was one No, there was other people around though, in the restaurant when there was other people sitting with her about your your wife was mad about that though we ex wife was mad about that. I don't know, I don't think so nothing happened there. She vented it. She was on Instagram. She I think she was more upset of what I said on the end of Wendy, you know what I mean. So it's it sucks, But how much longer you think this is going to go on in court before you

finalize things? Well, we got media, Well we finally greed the mediation, so that's coming up, and then if we don't, if that don't work out, we go to we go to trial in October. So hopefully for the end of the year it'll be over with mediation. Is a good sign, though, I hope, because that's all I want. Just let's just be fair, let's just move on, because we can't get this time back. And because I was looking forward to going to Auntie's home coming, you know what I mean,

You can still go. It'll be awkward, you know what I mean, Like, definitely be awkward because you'd be there by yourself, your daughter walk right by you, not speak right for the love your children makes perfect sense to me. So what's that fighting for the love your children makes perfect snaps to me. Yeah. Man, that's the weird part because I didn't have the examples. I didn't have, like my dad went around and then my stepdad was kind of a dick. So it was just like I ain't

had the examples. So as when you become a dad, like I didn't know what to do, but I knew what not to do, So there was no you ain't this. I always made sure I uplifted my kids and spoke highly of them. They did. Then you know, Sun got cut from the team. All right, let's let's go practice. Stuff like that, Like I would have coached all his sports teams if I was in town a lot because

the commedity we're leaving. Yeah, but there was like you know, when I came home, I never missed a practice, never missed a game, none of that stuff, Like if I could make a game, Like there was times like I had a show, uh and I if I could make it back to Cincinnati for the game, I'd fly back and to make it back to my show that I was in DC. I remember one time they I direct flights I had to get back since he went to his game and flew back to make my show just

because I wanted to see his game. I enjoyed it like I enjoyed going to their stuff, the recitals and everything. So that's that's what sucks. Well, I'm really hoping this all works out soon for you a little. Now, I'm about to sit back and watch the rebuttal rebuttals are gonna be amazing this interview. Huh rebuttal from I didn't say nothing bad and you are on tour right that

we outside to outside tour? Yeah, that's coming. We started late September, y'all making like three dollars a show nowhere on that so good? Yeah, yeah, so you know I'm just doing it. I'm charring. Man, Gary, We appreciate you for she's here. This is the most unfunniest interview I've done here. I thought it was hilarious. I'n't finding highly music. Who's your mouth? Rushmore comedy guy? Me all four faces? All four Why would I think somebody's funnier in me?

Say funny? What me in the nineties and me in the two thousand and twenties? All versions of meh single Gary four got married, Gary married, Gary, I'm happily married, and Gary divorce. Those are my four favorite comedians. You know what I mean? What do you think I was gonna say the normal? I was gonna say the normal. Yeah, Dave, Eddie, go Chris the normal Mount Rushmore. Can we get a different statue? Are they the goats? Are they? I don't know? You tell me the subjective? To me, Chris and Chris

is definitely one of the goats. I mean, Dave's a goat dependent. I think Chris is a stand uple goat. Dave is a TV stand uple goat. Um, yeah, Chris and Dave, Eddie, Yeah, I put Eddie, I mean yeah. Eddie was the first time stand up special albas actually Raw. When I was a kid, I wasn't delirious. Which one was the first one? Delirious? Clius was delirious, just Red the red Altfa was the blue out my dad let me see delirious. When I was a kid, Raw was the first time a girl hit on me and and

French kissed me in between um two arcade machines. After Raw went and saw Raw and the theater was empty, and we said we were hiding from other people when and saw another movie and like the girls like three years older, and all of a sudden you I was like, oh three times. That's that's why I remember. I don't remember any any jo can raw. I do remember getting

tongued down. Yeah, yeah, I got Calling on my mole Rushmore Carlin's man, but I was, I was so I didn't you know in the Calling To doc that came out this year. I need for you. What about the doc? Is a good, a phenomenal any from Ohio. I don't remember Rushmore. We got some we got some base out of Ohio. Bro, Yeah, Dave, Dave is not on your from Ohio to Cincinnati boys, Wow, get it, Steve Harvey

seen Hall. We got some monsters coming out of Ohio. Seriously, Gary Owen, mm yeah, okay, don't you don't do you want to come on here? This is stupid. You know what? De lete this whole interview. I'm going back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,