FULL SHOW: DL Hughley, Mo McRae, Jason Wilson and More!

guest rood Man's in the morning. No, no, that's not drove Man's in the morning. If you want sausage with your breakfast, we got the sausage for you here right now, because we got other sausages joining us. This smart he sausage in pork yo, he's stupid. I am pork Noo. I got do hugely. He'll be joining us this small more sausage. Let's go DLO. Listen, somebody's listening right now, Like I told you, they're on the DL. No, man, d L Hugly is gonna be here, that's right. Also,

Jason Wilson will be joining us. Man Ason Wilson man. First of all, let's be clear, I love Deal hugely, and I love Jason Wilson THO the two black men that I truly loved, value and appreciate. Jason william is the author of two books, Battle Cry and Cry Like a Man. Um. He's got a great film on ESPN right now, executive produced by Lawrence Fitshburn called The Cave of Almadullah. I feel like I'm pronouncing it wrong. I

probably am, but the Cave of Almadullah Almadullah sound. But he'll he'll he'll get the pronunciation right when he comes here. And you weren't here a lot of time, Jason, I was here last time. Now, his clips of that interview that we did with him before go super viral all the time Kevin Games and Kevin Gave was talking about Yep, you read the book Cry like a Man? Remember, Yeah, Man,

So John, I've seen his clips. When I've seen him, I guests he uh, I guess at his class he was teaching the kid about breaking the board and the kid couldn't break the balls, and he has gotten him through it. And I remember that going viral. So yeah, he'll be here with us this morning. Man, So a lot of sausage this morning, baby, it's a saulted part. Yes. And also a director, Mole McRae, will be joining us. He actually directed the episode when I was in East

New York, so he's a director. So we'll be talking to him as guy. More more sausage, more sausage, more sausage. You get a sausage, You'll get a sausage. You'll get a sausage. Oh my goodness. All right. And also we got to shout out to Nila Simon. Nila, she's gonna be joining us. She's a fish. I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know what. Not identify ass, So don't say me right, you know what? Let me mighty fish. We don't know, maybe not knowledge, I don't know. Right.

She called us up the pretty little boy that she Yeah, the pretty little boy, a pretty tome boy. Oh yeah, the pretty tom We're gonna start a segment called past the Orcs where we're gonna be passing her the auxiliary cord that she's gonna be telling U, s putting us on the new music that's coming out. It could be artists that's out already or some new artists. She's gonna be putting us onto some of the new music that's had.

No she's coming her young fresh DJ. You know you've probably seen her on my late night talk show Hell of a Week. You know you you hear on probably one or five one in New York. You know she got playlist out there. I can call the mixtape no more. They played plays that she'll be up here telling us what's on her playlist. Morning. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. Call us up

right now. You need to get it off your chest. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eighty five one oh five one. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello. Who's this? Hello? What's your nawal yo? Yo? Does your boy cap from months Ville, Alabama? Cap for months Bill without brother? What's up? Man? Y'all feeling this morning? Good man? I had a good time. I had a good great time when I was out

there for my car ship. What up though? Yeah? Man? I know Manley you know, take the rocket down down hill. But anyway, I just called it. You know, what's y'all? A good thing? Man? I hope down last week? That's Charlemagne sent me I had in a book night I'm gonna sending. I'm gonna sending you a black effect hat right now. I'm gonna put you on hold, Eddie, get get his a email. Hold on the right. Bunch of them appreciate that. Now, All right? Hello, who's this? Hope

Bella Me, Hope Bellamy, what's up? Hope belling me? Get you off your chests? Brother, what's up? I'm calling from a Koe, Florida. Um. If you're familiar with kale Um, the Korey Masker where they killed you know, all these black people back in the day for voting. What a good thing about is that? Is that? Um, I'm expelling. I got my rights restorative vote, and I also turned around and now I'm running for office here in the Koe right. I'm running for Korey Um. And it's like

hard to get our people out to vote. The Democrats out numbers or because in the city, but we're not getting out in voting. I am cross board against you know, I'm with everybody every side. I'm people in general, but just getting the numbers out to vote. Here it's being like, you know, a huge deficit, even getting funny and like I'm like grass roots and everything and I'm doing good. I'm definitely best candidate for it because I had both sides of the table. My dead twelve years in prison.

Um now I'm gon this side, little fifteen years of community work from local level to natural level. So my hitting, my background, it messes with the population of Coe. Now we're not the Coe of the old. We're puting forward, but it's hard getting our people to understand how important it is to get out and vote for me. Um the month forward. Okay, well, how can people find out more what you're You're running on your Instagram, social media, website,

whatever your campaign. But my website is right. My website is Hope, h Ope. My last name is Vellamy d E L l A n Y. If the word four f o r the letter D one at dot com, so it's Hope Vellamy four d one. Okay, brother, good luck. The whole stand for the whole stand for helping other people elevate. That's my drug, my high, my addiction. I like that, all right, brother, campaign slogan. Hello, who's this yo? What what's up happening? Get it off your chest? Brother?

My first time getting and I'm still talking about the book. They said you're a book man, y'all. Just put them on hold. Maybe listen to old well listen in our defense. We were moving last year, that's right. So it was a lot going on, you know what I mean. So I'm gonna get that to your animal. I'm gonna get your black effect hat to brother. Hold on, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is man Jasmine. All right, get it off your chests, Hi, Jasmine. I'm sorry. I was trying to get out of the vand with my kids. I drive kids, okay, but I was just trying to get my chance that. I feel like the world should make it a little bit easier

for people with fellings. Needs to get jobs. Yeah, I mean, yeah, are you trying to get a job. It's difficult for you or family member or not for me, but but for our partner, it's just hard. He did some things back in the day, long long time ago, and he's still paying for it, and it's just like, yeah, it's not okay. What kind of job you trying to get? And tell him don't lie on his application neither. That don't help. What kind of job you trying to get out?

He doesn't. He doesn't lie, and at this point any time, you know, just a job that's gonna pay and help him be able to provide for the family. What state are you in, Jasmine, Columbus, Ohio, Ohio? Yeah, that's one of those ones. You got a lobby your state legislator dear to remove the check the box. That's that's something a lot of state they're doing to try to help eradicate that it shit shows bad because he's so driven and he wants to do it, and then they just

shooting him down, shooting them down. They'll give him a position and then take it away. I know. Another option, Jasmine is go around the system and maybe think about entrepreneurship, think about starting your own think about putting yourself in a position where you don't need somebody to sign off and validate you for hiring. What did you get arrested for? If you don't mind me asking, Um, it was a robbery situation when he was like eighteen, like thirteen years ago.

He did all his time. Everything is done. He's a whole new person. But it's like they don't want to give him a chance in the world today. I think I love whatever he said. I didn't even know that they were doing that. I don't know. People start remove check removing the box. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean some state oppositions, like if he's trying to work at certain things, don't they have to go through your background history?

Well yeah, I was gonna say, it looks like if you wanted to work for a bank, you know what I mean, it was robbery. I'm sure they would have to go in the background. I'm sure if you want to work for a bank, you got to even have seven hundred credit score, they'd be tripping, you know, absolutely, Yeah, because you'll become a fiduciary, you know, so they want to make sure that you're in good financial standing. So that's hard. But yeah, certain states are removing that box

for that reason. So and what's the process of actually wiping uh you record you're talking about? So that's an expungement and can you exponge felony? I'm in the process of doing that. Now I start Mike mill getting the exponge. I'm like, yo, yeah, dom Carolina, what's happening? I have an outstanding citizen. What's going on? I'm not but it's not easy. No, it's not. It's not easy. It's possible,

it's not easy. And then when you do it, does that mean it's totally expunged, like they can't see it regardless, or can they steal nuckles? There's levels, so like, for instance, I have an expungement. Remember I told you about my deferred prosecution situation, so not picked up them Stewart Whitesman when I'm seventeen year in college, So that was expunge and he was boosting y'alls a thug y'all. But when it came time for me to take the bar exam,

there was visibility. Yeah, of course, it didn't stop me from being a lawyer. There's lawyers, but DUI is all kinds of stuff. But they're gonna permeate that quote expungement. Yeah, all right, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five A five, one h five one, don't move. It's a breakfast lug. The Morning, the Breakfast Club, the Breakfast Club. Your morning's will never be the same morning. Everybody is

dj n V Charlemagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Indeed, we got a special guest in the building, the brother Mote mccraig, Morning Morning, Morning Club, y'all my brother. Now you don't know who mo is, You probably know the face. He was in NYPD Blue Boston Public, The District, Cold Case, The Guardian, The Shield of Division, See Aside Er Detroit, The Defenders, uh Sons of Anarchy, Battle Creek, Murder in

The First Empire, Pitch Tales, Rebel, The Flight Attended. He's an actor with a long resume, playing a lot of cop shows too, a lot of cops shows. I knew you was gonna say something about that, was that, do you want to be a cop grown up? Or no? You know, Honestly, in the beginning of the cop shows, when I started acting, I was pretty much on the opportunity for young black actors on a cop show getting

interrogated as you do it or not. So it kind of started off doing a lot of those and then later end up getting the player a cop and be a lawyer and all those things. But it's what opportunities were in the beginning. You know what's so funny. I saw when they were announcing the NAACP Image Awards. I saw the head of the NAACP. He was on with meffy Man. You don't see me at this one with Gail King, and he said something that people got a

little upset about, but I understood he was saying. He was like, meffy Man got nominated for playing an attorney, not a criminal. So do you feel like they cash black people in those roles, especially black men, on purpose and the criminal roles. Yeah, I think that's why you didn't hear me with the tough questions fresh out of the gate. I mean, honestly, I think a lot of it was on purpose because it was telling stories that are taking place in certain environments, and those are the

people that didn't have with those environments. And I also feel like it was important like when Methodist playing those type of roles, or we're just seeing us depicted and other lights and other things I remember my grandmother. It got to a point while I was doing all that stuff, those type of roles, he said, baby, you're smart, You're so intelligent, you're funny, y'all these things. Let's see some of that too. Wow. And when she said that to me, it really made me pump the brakes on it, and

it was something I stopped. Chadwick had picked up on really early. He's spoken a lot about that where he had to have a little bit more integrity in his work and being understanding of what these depictions and what this repretation representation actually is. So with those bills, you got bills and those it seemed like those are far and few. Yeah, the bills. It's a real thing. And now I think that's a struggle of every artist. It's like, how do you maintain that dream but still maintain a

roof over your head? And I think that's something all the grades had to navigate and figure out, whether it's music, is playing ball, whatever it is you got that big picture dream or what do you do in an intim to keep yourself afloat? And so something I end up doing a lot of people didn't know. It's like I started working with somebody doing landscaping and just figuring out other things you cut grass and acted. I did whatever I had to do, and I also started to home

my craft because that was the biggest issue. When they were saying, Oh, you can't play a lawyer. I'm like, well, why can't I It's like your addiction. So I did speech and diction training. I did all those things to eliminate the no. So I want to show like the flight Attendant with Kaylee Quoko, I'm a CIA agent on that show. That's because I put that time into the craft to be able to convincingly convey those other careers and archetypes. Now, when did you know you wanted to

be an actor? Like? When was that? Man, I'm from California. You can hit all in your voice. You hit the CALLI Cally. You know. It's funny. Every time I thought about, like when I wanted to become an actor, I feel like it just keeps going further further further back in

my life. But the first time I really made that decision and I got on stage in high school just doing a play, had a drama teacher and just taking the class, I want to be an actors ended up in a class and he was like, you got something special. You should get on stage. At the time, I like everybody, I want to play ball, haven't want to do all these other things. He's like, I give you an a a in the class if you do one little play. And

I got on stage and that was it. It was something about that connection with the audience and look at people in an eye and being an express rest of in that manner. I was like, that's what I want to do for the rest of my life. And I was sixteen years old when I found it. I just had no idea how hard it was gonna be. I thought it was gonna work, but it was crazy difficult. Now do you see those programs a lot because you're from South Central? Yeah? South Central? Do you see those

programs a lot in the hood in those areas? Because I'm just I just remember growing up in Queens. I don't remember seeing those type of arts. And I don't know if Charlemagne you see them in South Carolina. Of course, we had the basketball and baseball and football. I don't really see in that many had plays when I was in elementary school, you know, stuff like rock soup, you know what I like? Plays? Yeah, it's plays, but I

think those like specific programs. That's a good question if when you think about like outside of the school, like I didn't find any exposure to other arts when I was coming up, Like my mom did a good job of making sure my brother and I I says, so we would go to the museum sometimes when it turns like programs, and I think that we're really going to add intrinsic value to us outside of like the norm that didn't

exist when I was coming out. That's all. I'm so happy I've been looking into like what Lebron is doing with his school. This is a really powerful thing because he's trying to give these at risk and these challenged youth opportunities to be exposed to more dynamic things that can really lead to fundamental growth. Because I didn't have that really when I was growing up. And you said your grandmother encouraged you to, you know, do better roles, right,

and you're writing and directing a lot of nothing. Yes, so that's one of the ones when you were writing this, did you have Grandma in mind? I had everybody in mind, man, when I wrote this Feast. It's a lot of nothing, this film. It's a super autobiographical In a lot of ways, I just poured from my life, like and researching and thinking about all the greats and art. No matter what the discipline is, the greatest thing you could do is

pour from what you know. So it's inspired by me, my first love, my close friends, my brother, and all the things that are happening in the world, like all these injustices and these travesties. And so it was like, Okay, how can I make a story with the things that I know and that we all experiencing that could still be funny and dangerous and thrilling. And that's what the movie is. I was thinking about everybody when I wrote

the film. What made you get behind the camera? For For people that don't know, I was in East New York and you asked, let's go. People know you, they might not recognize me. We got an olden jobs in the true that's not true, that's not it. But you actually directed that episode. And for people that don't know, it wasn't like at first. You know, they called and said, if I want this, I would have to try out for the part. And I had to. I had to

do it in front of you and the executives. Yes, So what made you first want to get behind the camera? And then I want you to tell people about how good you were my audition. Yeah. Well, first of all, shout out to my man Harry, Oh, Harold, who connected us man like, which is an important thing in this whole process to its relationships and cultivating good relationships out of reciprocity value of looking out for people that look out for you. But I wanted to get behind the

camera because I'm an artist. You know, I'm not just an actor. I do photography, right, I want to learn to draw one day. I tell stories. And so I realized I just focused on my acting. I was kind of putting myself in a box. Because not anybody else is putting me in the box. I was putting myself in the box. I was limiting the scope of what I could do and how I could tell stories. So

and I was fascinated with it all. So I started studying shadowing all the great directors I was able to work with, going to YouTube University, spending tons of my own money as an actor that I was making to buy cameras and to make short films. Because I wanted to tell stories. I wanted to give people the thing that like Spike Lee, John Singleton, the Cohen Brothers, Steven Spielberg, the thing that those directors gave to me, those experiences I wanted to give to other people. So I made

my first film. So I'm making all those shorts and doing East New York right now. How did you get East New York? Because I mean, and did anybody know East New York was gonna be so big? Because I mean, it's a show that people genuinely love, Man the show. Don't think you ever really know how big something is gonna be. I end up getting East New York because oddly enough, this is how investing in yourself pays off

a lot of nothing. This feature film that I have coming out, it started as a short film, and I spent like forty g's on a short film at a time when I didn't really have the bread. But I was like, people like, why are you spending so much money? Because I need to show my vision because everybody always sent a want to do stuff like mo, stick to what you do, and I'm like, I want to direct. They like, stick to what you do? So I showed them the vision. They were like, oh, this is special.

So the executive producer East New York, Mike Robbin, he saw my short film like five years ago or something like that. He saw that short film and so he had me direct the television show for him a couple of years ago, and I'm crushed it show called All Rise. And then when East New York came around, as soon as it got green lit, he was like, mo, I

need you to come and do this show. And so from him seeing my short film and then what I did on this other show is what led him to calling me and giving me the opportunity to not only direct, but produce East New York. All right, we have more with Mote mcray when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club wanting everybody is DJ Envy Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking with Mo McRae's director of CBS's East New York.

He did I think a bunch an episode one of them. I'm actually in and he's in a hostess series now. When they called for East New York, they said that at first you were looking for somebody else to play the role DJ Authentic. Yes, and uh and then I guess you decided to give me a shot. So what was that process? I never I never knew. They just told me to tell you why I wanted to give

you a shot. But the Dominican forty five, you know, you know what it was like a big thing about me and art is authenticity, right, And so you have the show that's set in New York and it's tapping into the culture, like the zeitgeist of people that I want to see what's happening in New York right now we're talking to my guy Harry. Oh, was just like, who are those people that represent that could be a snitch, So you know, who could bring that who could bring

that energy? Who's that person that people are gonna see and be like that's dope. But also it has to be somebody's gonna take it serious with you. While we had to do the read and I'm gonna give you some I'm gonna give talk about some real stuff right here, where a lot of people get opportunities to do things, but they bring too much ego to the party, their pretense, they come with all that, so they're not willing to respect this. So it's people you big in this world

over here. You get an invitation to come over here and do something else, and you show up like, now I'm not gonna do this realm me? And what was amazing about Envy you bros? You came in with so much humility and reverence or what's happening in the film and TV world, and was like, okay, whatever, the process is a respected and you did the work, you had your lines memorized, you got a point of view, you got a perspective, and as soon as I saw that,

I'm like, oh, you're my guy. Next year, next year he got an those job now, you know. But but that was the most difficult part was the humility, right, because I've been doing this for a long time. I've been djaming for a long time, snitch for a long time. So when somebody tell when you do something, somebody tells you that's not right, it makes you feel away because really, absolutely I wouldn't feel that way. Made me feel because I know I'm not an actor, so I would want

that game. That's what I want me, That's what I overdid it. I'm like, guide me, tell me which way I should do it. How do you feel about this? How do you feel about that. That's why you know with the episode, I'm like, you know, I was asking and I'm reading your lines why you're saying your lines? So I knew when to come in my lines and I'm asking, I say it like this, Am I supposed to be smooth? And am I supposed to be scared? You know what I mean? So you want to go

through it? And then I had to do it at the audition in front of him, at the audition in front of the executives, and it's like, you don't know how it is. So I always appreciate that's part of scratching yourself, right, Like you're talking about that ladder that Denzel was talking about, Like some people get to a certain you know, level on the ladder and they think there's nowhere else to go, and it's like you ain't looking up exactly. They get they get fat on that position,

so they can't go up. And when you get that much weight on you high, what happens? Gravity kicks in and you're gonna come down. I think you gotta constantly be challenging yourself because oftentimes I was talking to somebody about this recent like people talk about the culture. The culture just do this for the culture. And I find myself right now, I'm wondering, are we really challenging the culture?

Are we stretching the culture? Are we are we like even something like the whole snitching thing, right, like, why is snitching so bad? Why are we still treating snitching like it's a bad thing. That's something the question I would. I don't because I'm not in the street. I could care less. Who's an informant or nothing, you know what I mean. But I also look at it as there

is crime prevention. I think the colde is if you're in the street and you're doing dirt, and you know you're doing dirt with somebody and y'all did it together, and then you snitched to save yourself for that person goes down. I can understand that if you live that life, But for people who are just want to keep the community safe, that's a problem with that. Ye call the police if you know, I would, Yeah, exactly do what

you need to do. And then also challenge the systems that create such like lack and desperation where people have gotten being crimes to eat, Like, let's look at that.

Don't talk too about stop snitching. Let's stop the systems that create all this lack and it to me, real nice to me is the person who told on that turner, Yes, a realstness to me is the person the others, the other enslaved person who told on Denwalk Bessie enslavery bole he was trying to put together, like that's us, snitch, those are the ones that we should un my death because you set us back on the person I was trying to lift us up. That's right, Why why would

you do that? That's right? But I also say I don't have a problem being a snitch, Like if you need me to come back and snitch on some more people, I mean, and we know that's why you got the role. So what's next for you? Because you're doing more episodes of East New York and of course you got a lot of nothing, So explain how many more episodes y'all start shooting yet? Or I just finished directing episode fourteen so that I'm doing that right now on the show.

And I'm just talking about the film because I think this movie a lot of nothing. It's like, it's not like anything that's ever really been made, and what w It's a satirical thriller, and this is a combination because it's equal parts funny and serious. It's it's it's scary and it's but it's dynamic, it's interesting. It's one of those films you can't see it without talking about it

afterwards because the subject matter is real heavy. You got a married couple who's watching the news one night and sees un armed motors is killed by a police officer. And at the end of that news segment they reveal the identity at the officer and it's their next door neighbor. So then they posed with that question because I always thought about it, like we get also upset with something to go wrong, first thing we do is go to social media. What happens if the problem is right next door?

What would you do then? And then how do you handle that problem on top of all the problems you already got to get on relationship, right, And that's what the film is. It's like all those things coming together in a real crazy way. And you got nominated for ACP Image Award. I did get Outstanding Breakthrough Creative because

that's direct things. That's different. Yeah, I mean I get emotional just thinking about the journey, right, because this whole thing about breakthrough that specific word, that category, because my whole philosophy on life has been involved not being in a box. Because I realized nobody could put me in a box. I put myself in a box. And as soon as I adopted adopted that mentality and started living outside of that, these kind of things start to happen.

So it's just been affirmation. So it's humbling, you know what I mean. It's an honor to be acknowledged for breakthrough creative emotion picture. It's something that was so challenging to do, Like making the movie is hard, especially if you care about the details. And so to get that acknowledgement, I'm thankful for the cast and everybody involved to make

that happen just been beautiful. I like what you said just now because I think about that, right, Like I think sometimes we listen to the world instead of listening to the God, and so a lot of times we do things because we that's what everybody is telling us we should do. But what is God telling you to do? You know me, everybody's gonna be like I understanding your box, staying your lane, no, don't do anything up. But God is like, no, go direct and that thing like, and

God speaks to me a lot through my wife. You got a black wife? Yeah, just to make sure to be He said, what do you say after that? Thanks for seeing you, thank you. That's that's a whole crazy thing. Well, but yeah, my wife is black. She's beautiful, she's a movie star. She's in my movie. Like Scott David shout out to my wife. Yeah, yeah, I have to do that. Just pay love. We got a little range. I'm sad like that. Yeah, you don't worry. I got it. I

got it, really have it. Well, we appreciate you for joining us. And where can they check out? A lot of nothing? Are we in theaters? So we in New York, LA, all the big cities. We're gonna be everywhere showing up. But yes, and theater is gonna be on demand as well. So if you don't want to go see it in the theater, which I advise you to do because it's a movie you want to see on a big screen.

Just a filmmaking. It's incredible. Terms like everybody that came together, like I got geniuses that came and donated and gave love to help make this movie. So theaters on demand and East New York is on CBS nine thirty and all that. Lets Sunday night, let us know, how about get a theater for a lot of nothing. Let us know what We'll get a theater screening? Ye yo, definitely sure that means a lot. Maybe Sunday night, Sunday nights opening weekend. At let's do it. I appreciate that done.

Let's do it all right, Well, let's moment gray Molok, she did it. I'm acting before I get out of here. Let me let y'all know what y'all are doing is so important and meaningful man, and as a lot of laughs and jokes, but what y'all create and what you guys provide here is so important because so many people would not be acknowledged and recognized if not for y'all doing what you do in the way that you do it. So it's an honor for me to be here. And

it's all up. I appreciate, thank you, thank you. Well it's the breakfast club. Yes, it's mow. Let's go the breakfast club. Your morning's will never be the same. Look at the turn a small bet into a big payday with Draft Kings sports book, Same game carl As. You can pocket more cash when you can buy multiple bets from one game. Download the apps, sign up with code envy that's e n v Y and get a special offer. Restrictions apply. See DraftKings dot com Slash sportsbook for details.

Morning everybody is dj NV Charlomagne, the guy we all the breakfast club, shout everybody out in Dallas. I actually got ahead the Dallas later on today they said the weather's disgusting in Dallas. I think they got like three four inches of snow. They shut the city down. Let me tell you something about three to four inches of the doll of snow and the d Listen, listen, let me tell you something. When three or four inches of snow hit the d shut down. You know what I mean.

But it's like that in the South because the South isn't equipped yews the soul. There's nothing that's really bad. I know the reverse of that up here hurricanes. Because Hurricane Sandy it was like a little punk to us in a little punk ass tropical storm correct shut the

city down of New York. So snow to the South is what hurricanes are up No, I got you three the four inches, man, It may not seem like much to you, to anybody to you or let's let know you up norths y'all used to get more inches, right, at least seven, at least seven. I'm talking about envy. That's why you are who you are. I tell them how to make it in this business. D. L. Hugle will be joining us next. Man, We're gonna don't move. I hate this guy. Man, man, it's the Breakfast Cloud.

Good morning, the Breakfast Club pointing. Everybody is dj n V Charlemagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. DL hugely welcome. What's up? I like they'll furniture. Tell what somebody getting? Oh man, they get made the company, all the good stuff come out. Well y'all, lad y'all, we have to call y'all a brunch club. I was wondering about that

before you walked out to L time. Somebody. Man, I'm not used to be in that discipline, having a reads that practice and practice, So you have to get the South African to do that before I'm gonna. Are you writing your own stuff? YEA A lot of it, A

lot of it. I mean like this the stuff some of the stuff that I you know, because I wanted to do today show because there was so much happening from a communal standpoint, from a cultural standpoint, and I never felt like anybody who would actually seen some of the things that were happening was kind of guide us through the experience. And then of course the man that I do the show that we have. Yeah, of course, so tough week to start with that. It was, man,

it was, but it's so familiar. Yeah, it's so like I've been I'll be fifty nine next month and I've been watching Black People to dices. I was too in the same way, and it's always the craziest thing. And this is the first time I've ever seen somebody from the Oval Office go to the funeral of somebody slain by the police. I don't respect it. I'm gonna tell

you why I don't respect it. There's no way I could be anybody from the White House, whether you vice brosid to come Hires or our President Biden and sit up in the people's face and no, I'm not doing everything I can to make things like the George Floyd policing yea pass, Like what do you tell the family when the family says, what are y'all going to do? You just said it? They make killing up forever, like what are you doing? What that means? In America? It

is a thing. America doesn't think there's anything wrong. It just don't. They don't think there's anything wrong. Every time something happened, the first thing people to do is rush to tell me how not all policemen are like that. That's the first thing. Invariably somebody gonna have that conversation. Oh, not all policemen are like that. Ain't talking about You were talking about the ones who is like this? But no one ever says all black men aren't like that. Yeah,

that's true. So they have no problem paying us when one prob rush. But they always want they get to be individviduals. We have to be a group. So how do you handle it? On the Daily Show? Right? You're hosting a week it's it's so so much to talk about, but do you be a lighthearted a little bit? Ain't serious about like what are you doing that? I think that human only works when it stays to it. I don't think that that. I did find that I run to the arrested him so fast, and I wonder why

that was what the white cop you got arrested. If people aren't complaining about it, well, I probably you know, But you know, all of this stuff is just happened stance that I don't know. I can't prove a negative. I can't prove that this would have happened opposite. I know that all of them were black. I know that they acted in a way that was that was not

consistent with the way I've seen them act. Ultimately, it ain't gonna matter until these things happen and we see a lot of policemen walking out in handcuffs when they do stuff like that. But let me ask you a a question. You know, we always talk about we want people in the community that look like us, right, we want people on the four that look like us. We want people as lawyers and judges that look like us. These brothers look like us, right. They had they were Omega sci

fi right from the community, like us. So like, well, I'm an Omegan. I'm gonna tell you this, those three men were Omegas. But the men who are trying to the man who's trying to get family justice then make it too. So it's it's really reflective Clarence Thomas looked like us. But I think that the predicate is you can, we can have disagreements. But one of the things that I find I take homage with is that you can have a political difference, disagreement of philosophical But on the

other side, the predicate is they hate us. They gotta say. They can't just disagreement. You gotta tell you how you're wrong and how you're bad. Like Jason Willock some of the stuff he says that self hate. How do you how do you shape your mouth to say something was a black woman like? They always find the way to make us more insidious. And I think we can have disagreements, but why why is the predicate hate? Then you got to despise us in order for them to accept you.

You know, That's why people say it's not about racing this situation, it's about the system. No, it's about race. Yeah, because this country does not value black bodies right, regardless, regardless, and they've done such a good job of not valuing black bodies that some of us don't value ourselves. That's why those five cops can do that to a brother like that, they would not do that to a white man was until we see it. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. The thing about it that you

can you can we have so little respect. I'm not in that group. I respect black people live, and I hope that you know everybody in this room does. But there are people when you Those men weren't purple and gold for a mega. They weren't black for they before they were anything. They were black. They were blue that day, and they did what their cameras on and they didn't try to get that man aid through. Those men were three hundred pounds. And if that's the elite, who was not?

If that's the elite and they were young men, how did you get to be on the force that that's little time and get that kind of signment unless your assignments to be brutals to black people. I don't feel like they did it before because it's you know, it's like even if I'm a beat, so I've I'm gonna leave my camera on, yeah you know what I mean? Like I just don't care or I never got in trouble for it before. Why would you this with the

Scorpion Union. This is what we're supposed to do. We reckon shop you can't even blame it in your right yar man. It is about the system that has created this thing. Like and every time I turn around, somebody's telling us so hard the police got it, Like Barack Obama went to the funeral of five Slang police officers. It is politically dangerous to go to a funeral of a dead black. I watched Kamala Harris, I was. I watched it was. I think it was a George Floyd thing.

I watched her go to a gay propery and a float went by, but she wouldn't go to Like I'm serious. It was a dude with a rainbow throne on a float going by, but going to a black funeral was too Like that's yeah, that's right. So I think that there is a way that we are seeing, even in death, we look politically dangerous to people like, how is it dangerous?

If this is wrong? And we all say it's wrong, right, then we all say, but I'm gonna send you flowers, I'll put you in the boot, and I'm giving a State of the Union address, but I'm not gonna come to the funeral and cry with you. All these things. Is divine province of all these things, So I'm hoping

that this is indicative of what is to come. The one thing that hurts my feelings is every time I turn around when a young black man or young black woman's killed, the mothers and parents and families rushed to humanize them. They got to show them skateboarding. They gotta and they always have known though he's not like you think, he's not like the other ones. There's always this tattoos on the face that they always have to rush to humanize. But they have to because I feel like the police

department does pressed it the other way. You know, it all got arrested when he was fined for doing this, Like that's that's what they do. Have you ever noticed, No, this is just just statistically true for profession police officers have a higher rate of drug abuse, domestic violence, alcohol abuse. But I get tested when I do something wrong? Way who shot? I know his drug? Like that's because we

don't want to know things. They get after there's an instance many times, because you know they get thirty, they get two weeks to three to four weeks off before they have to answer questions. If I got if my wife busting me with another brother, you gave me four weeks to come up with something that I'd be all right along a minute, so they set it up so

these things can continue to happen. When I see Tim Scott is in when we can't even say that it's wrong and choking, get it death, what's the conversation about, like the chokeo. We can't even ban the chokeo. Of course, if you're fighting for your life, that all bets is up. But as a matter of policy, we should We can't say the choking people that put in your arm and cutting off the air supply is is something we shouldn't do.

I agree with you man that listen man, I think one of the most interesting things that has ever happened in this country is the fact that psychologically they have convinced people that black folks are the problem. Black folks are dangerous out of all the hayned stuff you don't see white people do throughout the world. Historically they scared us. Yeah, how and when it comes to the police, y'all got the gun, y'all got the batons, y'all got the pepper spray,

y'all got everything. Why are y'all the free? But you're supposed to teach my children. I'm supposed to be my children how to treat you as appos and you're in the pro But we live in a country right now where you pretty much unanimously they voted for Juneteenth, but they want they're against teaching slavery right, which is crazy because Juneteenth. I don't want my children learn about slavery school, which is stupid because school is out the first week

of June. Juneteenth is the nineth of June. If your children learn about Slavery Day in summer school, and they ain't gonna make it, no damn way if you if you've got to go to school the summer, you are dumb ass, dude woman. And Juneteenth is a federal holiday. It means more white people up on Juneteenth. Thus I think on juneteent white people have to work that day for free all day. Where my kids I'm selling them because that's a slavery day. We got more with DL hugely.

When we come back. It's the breakfast Club of Good morning everybody in cej n V. Charlemagne the guy we all the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, the brother Dale hugely welcome. What's up. I ran into you at the White House? Uh yeah, what are your thoughts on Joe Biden and the job he's doing? Right? Listen, listen. I've never seen any anybody, And I had this conversation with Charlotte man with a with a limited number of seats in the House and

the senator at that time past such legislations. I've never seen it happened. And you could talk about whether you like him or don't like him, but Barack Obama had a supermajority and couldn't get a lot of this stuff done. So I think page to do it. That's what I'm saying. I defy you at a time in history, and even people on the rtle say this that somebody took that menial amount of numbers and had such significant legislations. It's never happened. So I think those years and years and

years of being a senator taught him that. But I think the thing that people have to understand is that we're in a fight to convince people that we are human human. How is it that you don't want me to learn like enslave people at one point couldn't learn it was a legal for them. To learn. Now in many places it's illegal to learn about enslave people. The only reason you don't want history chat is because you plan on repeating it. This is, this is, and so

this is our fight for us to exist. And I think that people who are in the middle, you know, politics is tools. A gun is a tool that depends on who's hands it in what they're using it for. And so I just think it's a very serious thing. And I think that for me comedically, is it like when I when I told you when white people were mad, the little mermaid was like black, I'm like all them slaves you threw over where? It's got to be somebody black.

When do you think that crab get his hair braided that? I'm sure it's a Nigerian lady with a boothdown there right black caster oil. Often wonder, you know, when it comes to all of that stuff, do they do they care about us learning about our history or do they care more about their kids learning about what? You know? Maybe maybe I think I think I can't tell, But like when I see the things that happened, That's why

I'm so glad that cowboys. I am because I am, not because I always hated him anyway, but I did. I did. But when we are going back in history and men Cosby went to Jai and I think he did it, and I'm not gonna even equivocate, but we went back fifty sixty years in his history. But Jerry Jones, we can't go back fifty sixty years in his history. He's held liable for the things he did back then, and so we have to have a consistent way of

doing things. If you know Ray Ray Rice, he physically assaulted his wife, but Dana Dana White beat his wife and he get a commercial called I mean, he get a show called Slap Power Slap, So maybe that wasn't even an asshoe. But maybe that was just a promo. I don't know, But you can't tell me that we we looked through these things in the face and nobody

says anything. And I just wonder why we can see things are obviously different for you, depending on them, where you come from, what your experiences are, and we pretend like we don't know who those things exist. And that's why for me, I'll be feeling like it's a slippery slope, right because it's like, damn, y'all go back and do that to Jerry Jones. You know who's gonna get the brand of that? Yeah? Us. Yeah, they start doing that, they start going all the way back. They already do,

They already do when they can't. So when you get killed, you killed. A couple of times when a black person gets killed, they kill his memory, they kill everything he did, right, they kill his family. They have to kill him. A coward, they said, coward dies a thousand death. A black man dies two thousand because everything about him that was decent, good,

or righteous they have to destroy. And we're complicity. And when we say things like black on black crime, crime is about proximity, the dangerous thing when it's a stranger, Why is it that we keep the notion alive that it is us that are particularly more insidious than anybody else. When they say, well, you know, we like crabs in the bucket. Crabs don't belong in the bucket. That's the problem. You put them in an environment anything would do that.

The crime is not about color, or it's about poverty. Show me a safe poor place. But everybody always acts like we're particularly insidious. And when I hear people say it, it's so galling to me. They give credence to these these noses the board. The term black on black crime comes from a Chicago Defender article and what nineteen seventy where black Dude was talking about and they coined it, and then all of a sudden we used it on ourselves. I hate that one, and I hate we are on

worse enemy nobody, No, not. You might be number two, but white supremacy number one. Absolutely, And everything is a result of that. Everything is a result of that. It's just it's not even hard for me. So for me the Daily Show, I'm gonna talk to and I'm gonna make some people nerving. Would you want to do that permanently? Though? Only if I could do it my way? Okay, say this way. I want to say what I believe. You

give up the road and everything. I would never give up the road, you know, because that's the only place I can't get fired from. Yeah, you ain't gonna mat and I got to be home with my family all the time. Oh No, does that make you nervous at all? With the road now, with everybody being so sensitive and with everybody's camera out. No, I think it's changing, man, I think it's really going back. I think people are

over it. I think people are older. I know, yeah, I think it's I think it's I think it's going back the well. You know, here's the thing. You can't really cancel anybody anyway. How many times it Tucker Carson been canceled, or Sean hadn't even cancer, or Kanye been canceled, you can't really cancel nobody people that we the people that gonna for them. All you gotta do is make a dope. Shoot how I don't know. People don't share the house. To me, I'm not with you no more ever.

To me, it's a really simple thing. If you say the thing that enabled them to hurt my people, I will never put you again, ever on any level. And I never y'all never spoke after y'a would that night, the night when all this happen. We can't talk after that because it evolved into a shouting match. Listen. I think much like we're holding the policeman who did these things responsible, even though they were black, we have to hold people that harm us because they're black, holding minor spot.

Don't tell me it's a mental illness, because if it was, Delonte West would be saying the same to Kanye West, dude and that lived under the bridge. You know what I'm saying, when you're all crazy, you gotta be to make a car dash if the white dude, you know what that is? He literally up the stereotype. Once you go black, you never go back unless I mean unless you go away. You could say the most harmful ever

that Hitler. All of you you humanize Hitler and you forget you at black children and you're dating a woman from the Coccus Mountains. But it isn't what he says is what they he literally emboldens and now they're using the words he's say to hurt people to look like me? Are you will bother me to most about that situation? You know whether regardless how you feel about Jewish people, if you black man? What about the stuff he said about rules of park, this stuff he said about Malcolm

Max What what like? Come on, bro, like what what is what he said about George? And here's the thing that that makes me man, when when those types say things about George Floyd. If you're in the medium you're making in terms of advertisement dollars before George Floyd, look at it after you were getting No matter what the platform you're on. I don't care because even if they were gonna make up marking by they did hated more of it to the African American market, all because of

the whole George Floyd thing. So people that shall over him and eat off the corpses they bury or even more in cities because they know it's no denying that that black body was green. You got rich because of that. If you give him money out the platforms, you gotta make sure an x amount of his conservative platform to if they're black. So stop telling me he made people make way more money than they were making. Pretend gen

you get advertised you never got before. I know exactly exactly they needed black alliances, so they needed to hide more so from that black black body being slain like that. You have you had a financial windfall and you were stall over him. Thank you forever whatever. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. It's a real thing for me. All I well, don't move. We got more with DL Hughley when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody's DJ NV Charlemagne the guy we are.

The Breakfast Club was to kid with DL Hugh Glee Charlemagne. What's harder doing the daily show that remember remember the CNN show. People forget that you had a CNN show back. You know, I don't nothing. Nothing is hard for me if you don't with me, and they have a great Here's the thing about the staff over there, there a machine. They know what they're doing. Yeah, you're just inserting yourself into something else. And they could do that for anybody.

There a machine. To me, it only matters to me. The only thing that matters to me is when events like this because I don't want to have fun. I want to do jokes. I do, But when the events like this happened, I want you want to do? Yeah I do. I want to. I want to have fun and hang out. I do. But great job. But they need to be somebody not my hes spirits aren't necessarily And I'm feel entitled to speak about these because I've seen it, I've been through it, and I just want

whatever whoever they get. You gotta be able to be ambidextrous. I can bat right or left, we can be lighter, would be heavy. But when things like this happened. You know, there's sixty eight percent of Americans have their political views shaped by satire, which is coming absolutely. Why would yeah? Why would I not? When when I'm almost like this, it's these moments aren't just bang glorious. Comedy is a reflection. We're showing people things when it's done right, when it's done.

And I just want whoever doesn't And all these guys are very talented, but they speak about things from twenty thousand feet up. I want somebody who's who's been in the trenches and seeing what happened. Do you ever get tired? Because you know, if you follow DL, you post everything that's going on in the community, and a lot of it. Sometimes it's depressing, and I'm like, damn, do you ever get tired? Do you have to take a mental break? Sometimes? No,

because you know it's funny. My wife don't like to talk to me. My kids be like, guy, call people five o'clock. I guess what, Guess what happened when you and I and I and I commend you for even talking about having to take a mental break. But for me, it is irresponsible to know a thing, to believe a thing, and to not say a thing. That's what I'm saying, So to me, it's irresponsible, But I do feel like all the DMS you get, did you know this story? It's like I telling being Crump, I like this is

like that kid on sixth cents. I see dead people all time, Like nobody ever tells me good. And you feel like you gotta speak for people or like even somebody like being Crump, Like being Crump gets a lot of flat. But I'm like, well who else is doing the work? Yeah? You know what I'm saying, ain't been It ain't been fault that he's the black Lloyd to go to for everybody. Why don't people stop? You know, it's funny mccari Sellers has stepped up a lot too, And I like and I think, I think, I think.

What's funny to me is like I should be proud in theory that two black men were running for the sinning in Georgia, but when it's such a disparity, Like I have a simple rule. If I can beat you in the spelling, be you can't have my vote. Like to be a spokeperson, you gotta know how to spoke. Like every time they dude say anything, I thought about the fat out but just this is just say hate for you. But guy, not only do I think Herschel Walkers should never have been even close to being a senator.

I don't think they should lead get home with the pilot like them. I ain't a lot of somebody dropping the battle. Herschel need to be somebody political pundit. Yeah, I need to see Herschel on TV right, we're talking during the even Why FO not put him on yet? Because because here's the thing. They would never hire him for their company or let him date that out but he was okay, never he would never be the spokesperson for their company or or a member of their family.

But I don't even blame Herchel because from the moment he showed any level of aptitude, he was taken away from black people. He was giving deferential treat He was this dude could beat the white woman. You see that he could actually beat white woman. And he didn't even date in the white This dude could be white women and nobody and everybody know it and still will for him. Whatever he did transcended race. If I had that experience,

of course I went to I think that it did exist. Well, I would say it transcends race untill he does it. You know, Herchel went from the sticks to white women. I'm telling him, who ain't never um. They didn't even get mad at everything you said about it. Literally, if we're Donald Trump is everything they hate about black people, but they love him everything. Like he lies, he don't pay his bills, he got kicked out of the the public houses and got evicted when leaves and stole from work

his last day, but they love him. You know what do I do say? That's one thing I feel like we should learn from Republicans, Like they don't focus on individualism, no, because they know that collectively, if Trump president, he gonna do that. If hershe was the sence he gonna do. We focused too much on individualism, Like I think we should start focusing on the collective or make the country

see the world the way we do. I cannot stand to that that I'm living in a world where I have a granddaughter and children and I am I am watching and I can't stand that I can't seem to make the world better for the people I love. That's that's that's what's frustrating to me, And that that you are nobody by by evolving by being who you are, but a part that I played in it. Like when I saw what they did to Megan the Stallion, Like, there's three things black people should just oj did it?

Kanye haste and Tory shot make it? Yeah, those shouldn't be controverse. Well, yeah, because it's not just think it's like that hard. Most man who was shot in America shot by who somebody loved them or said they did or knock them off or did whatever. And most men who've been violent or be bothered again, right, that's like those are pretty consistent thing. But people contorted themselves to make some kind of conspiratorial thing when sometimes the most

obvious thing is the truest. I agree with you whole heartily, and I you know me and if he had this conversation because you know, I saw we had the police documents off here way before they were public, and I'm like, oh he did, just like you know what I'm saying. So, But but I think the problem is the Internet. I really do. I think the Internet. Like when michaelm X said the media is the most powerful tool in the world because it can make the innocent guilty and guilt innocent.

There's nothing doing that better than the Internet. The only thing that bothers me about when anybody says that anything happened, it's always three sides to the story, right. It's the right person on the right side of the person on left side, and then there's the truth right, and then there's the evidence. But don't read the information from the internet. But the internet is difficult sometimes because they put out

so much that ain't true. That's my purpose purpose. It's three things that mad people in the whole tip got in calm. They hate evidence, proof, proof, the fact that you have well you don't know, okay, well see, and that's a At one point, I can't even have a conversation with you my last thing before you get to your last thing. I got a question. I see you in shape, baby, I'm not. It's not I did put bourbon now I picked up tequila baby, so passed the Why had challenge you to a fight? Is that why

you're in shape? You know that you're going to jail. J You need to be warming up with some mother's fights. You got at that's so funny to me. This is what happened. He called my exact skipcheet of my exactive producer. They wanted to be on the show. I said, that's not a good idea because I think you are Charlotte or told as people, no, it's gonna be cool. And sure enough what happened. We had this argument. He got mad,

I want to fight you? All right, Well, he said, we're gonna have a celebrity box back, like who's at the celebrity like you you famous for getting robbed on TV? That's not a TV show, that's not a TV show. And now what is he indicted for? Something? Right? Yeah, I would say it's interesting to how black women are really in terms of the legal on the legal front they like in Atlanta and in Michigan, and with some black women in jail not playing man, young, thug and gun.

If your name is you, are you gonna go to jail? I know that. Lord a mercy. This is what people don't get. If you rap about something that didn't happen, that's artistic expression. Can wrap about something that did that's a confession. That's a confession up. And stitches don't get sches, they get immunity for prosecution. Snitch is a home by Christmas. Yeah, well, DL, we appreciate you joining us. You could check them on the that's right, And if you wanted, I hope you

get it, you know what I'm saying. No, I want to do a top show, but I want to do it the way I do it. Yeah, you've done CNN, you did TV one. Yeah. Yeah, so with dealing it though, baby. Yeah, it's Del Hugley. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, any Charlemagne the guy? We are the Breakfast Club. It's Charlemagne and I've been talking and we set for Friday. We're gonna do a segment called pass the US. Listen, we're old, right, we both were born Okay, you're older than me, so

what does that make you? But we both are born in the nineteen hundreds, right correctly. You remember last year I came in here with the ski mask on. I'm like, yeah, am I too old? You know to be listening to young music? You know what I mean? And I remember I still excuse me, I still like a lot of this stuff. Right, So you know, on Friday's new music comes out, and you know, we got a very young up I don't evenna say up and coming nine now.

I's still up and coming, right, But she's here. She's here now, she's generation now, but she's still up and coming. Man and you know, she got a very good air for music, and I decided let's do a segment call yeah called past the alswere you know, we bring people up like Nala. Now it's gonna be holding it down where she's gonna tell us what's popping out there, what's new? She's gonna be listening to some of the albums that we might not have time for, oh might not care about.

And she's an actual DJ. Yess yes, yes, So so what do we got to tell here? Were passing you the os? What's popping? What are we listening to? First? All right, so first I wanted to give a shout out to Scissors SOS project, which has been number one forever, it seems like for seven weeks straight. Yes, so shout out to Sissa. And at first I wasn't really feeling

the project. I'm glad you said that, and I didn't have to because I was about to get on your At first, I wasn't really feeling the project, but it grew on me. And I know the fan favorite is Snooze, but I really really like Love Language and I just wanted to shine someone on that record. All right, well, let's get into it now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Okay, that was sis. I'm glad that you came around on Sissa. That was a snippet of Sissior. What else we got? Ship?

People should be looking out. I was telling you sizzl was fire, all right? No, I think scissors fire. I just like control better. I think I had the same Tell them why you said you didn't like the new album? Tell him you say who you felt the album was four? I don't remember. That was so long ago. First reaction. First reactions don't really count what you got. Jesus um he's lying, by the way. So the second project I

want to highlight. I wasn't gonna do Little Yaddi, but I think it's still grown on me, and I don't I don't want to be a hater because I see how he attacked Pitchfork, So I'm gonna I'm gonna give it some time. So I'm gonna talk about Sweno's project, which actually dropped in November. It's called Love for Rent. But that project is amazing. I don't know, it's growing and Smeeno he's from Saint Louis. He went to college in Chicago, and I think he got his buzz musically

in Chicago. But now he's on tour with Ji D. They're on the Love for Rent tour and I'm a big fan of him. He's not mainstream, but he should be. He's great. So um, it's been three months and each week I feel like I find a new song on the project that I love. But right now on repeat is Lee and Lovely Lee and Lovely. Yeah that sound like a haircare product. That sounding what was keeping your ages held down? Right now? You know, shout out to um or ask please send me some products up. But yeah,

let's get into it. Here's Smeno, Lee and Lovely off of Love for All. Right, well, now let's do here. This is past. This is something that we're gonna be doing Fridays. Uh usually in a nine o'clock hour, I guess. But this is Black History moth, so we have Black History moment, so we're doing it right now. During the room report, what is Seno? So now let's here with holding with passing the Austen So what's next? That was Smeno? Right, that was from St. Louis. He's from Saint Louis and

I'm gonna keep itself. So I did like a new music submission and allow artists to just send me music from all over. I wouldn't do that. You're gonna get a lot of trash for good Man hours. I'm so far of trash. Hours of trash. Four hours in, I still haven't got through the list, but I thought I want to get into it. Here's Jehovah with Poppin. All right, that was past the als man from South Carolina from the Met eight oh three. I thank you from the Met.

Give me an Instagram and all that stuff. Now, make sure you guys follow me on the Graham at N Y LA S Y M O N E E. And if you guys are in New York City February tenth, I'm having a party Friday at mister Purple. It's a funk Are you gonna party? Shoutouts right now now, I am advantage mister Purple. It's an LS So pull up if you guys can. If you like funk and you like hip hop, like nineties Hip Poppins, and that's that's listening. If if you like her playlist, you can hit that live.

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on Peak Cope. It's time for Donkey of the Day time a Democrat, So being Dunky of the Day is a little bit of a mixed club. So like a Donkey o the daytor club bitches. Now I've been called a lot of my twenty three years. That Donkey of

the Day is a new wife. Donky of to Day for Friday in February third goes to Turning Point USA at Clemson University dropped when the clues bombs for the Upstate of Southway six four on What's Happening for the record, I love my entire state of South Carolina, but I represent the low country eight four three all day and the eight oh three, the metro home of the South Carolina game Cocks drop on the clues bombs for the

South Carolina games. I can't even let the words Clemson come out of my mouth without saluting the gardener in black of the South Carolina game. Conso, okay, that's my wife's almamada. By the way. Now, now that we got that out the way, let's handle business all right. It is indeed the third day of Black History Month, and

I've been waiting. I've been waiting for the foolishness that surrounds any celebration of blackness to begin, especially when you have Ron de sciantists bullying the College Board into scripping down this ap curriculum for African American studies, and when you have conservative ledged states in school districts banning so called critical ray theory. Yes, thirty percent of educators in

red states have limited discussions of black history. So in a minute, they gonna get rid of this month all together. Always coming, baby, Black History Month gonna be Black History Week by twenty twenty four and Black History Day by two thousan twenty five. I can see it now. It's already the shortest month of the year. And if someone like the scientists gets in that White House in twenty twenty four, you can kiss black History mouff Goldbay, Trust

and belief. All Right, it's already the shortest month of the year. And the reason they put it right before March is because they know that's all black people are gonna do in regards to the injustice we're facing this country. That's what happens. We learn about what's happening with us and to us, and then we march the history of who we are in marching go hand in hand. Okay, it's not a coincidence marches the month after Black History. Now,

stay woken, matter of fact, go get a nap. Okay, I'll be joining you shortly because I'm tired, all right. I'm tired of us being the most unseerious country on the planet. All Right, We just out here, bro Okay, everybody just doing things. Okay, there's absolutely no thought going into nothing. Everybody is doing Okay. It feels like they're just trying to get into the It feels like everybody's just trying to get into the Rock Control Hall of Fame. Okay,

nothing feels real. Everything feels like one long terrible SNL sketch. And you know SNL be having some long terrible sketches. And today's no exception because Turning Point USA at Clemson a couple of days ago, actually on the first day of Black History Month, decided to have a big sale, not just any kind of big sale though. Let's go to WYF News Channel four for the report policely on for an affirmative action bake sale at Clemson University today

left a number of students upset. Carol Nigel. Turning Point USA at Clemson says it held the event and opposition of affirmative action, and photo sent to WYF News for it shows a poster with prices for the cookies varying based on a person's race. The comments on the organization's Instagram post called the poster racist, disturbing and bringing up that it was put up on the first day of

Black History Month. One student had this to say, I was shocked, like because I didn't think Clemson would allow something like happen on campus. The fact they had prices, the prices in it being the first day of Black History Month, Like, I feel like that was very much planned out, Like it was very strategic the way they did that. An affirmative action bakesale. I repeat, an affirmative action bake sale now I'm not the highest grade of

weed in the dispensary. But last I checked, affirmative action was defined as a set of procedures designed to eliminate unlawful discrimination among applicants, remedy the results of such prior discrimination, and prevent discrimination in the future. All of that is great, But what the hell that got to do with cookies? Turning point USA at Clemson? Okay, these fools had a sign showing each cookie at a different price based on

the customers race. All right, These fools had Asian cookies at a dollar fifty, White cookies for a dollar, Hispanic cookies for a Curtis Jackson Black cookies for twenty cents, and Native American cookies free. I'm just glad they didn't do thin cookies like this. Could have been way worse. They just had regular cookies like chocolate chip or mule raised and peanut butter. But they could have jumped out

the window and had fortune cookies for Asians. Okay, large chunks of cooked meth commonly called meth cookies for the whites, and biscuits aka ed word cookies for black people. Welcome to Popeyes, chicken and Edward cookies not take your order. I'm sorry, listen, man, here's the thing. Turning Point USA. Clemson said they held this event in opposition to affirmative action.

It's a debate as old as time, folks. Okay, people who oppose affirmative action say that it is unfair to use race as a consideration and admitting students to a college of university. Opponents of affirmative action to say that this reverse discrimination, and that's wrong for the government ever to use race in regards to giving out benefits like

government contracts, jobs, our admissions to school. I love when people use the term reverse discrimination because it's usually the people who use that term who try to gaslight you and tell you racial discrimination is a figment of our imaginations in the first place, and this is how they try to gaslight you. Okay, Clemson TPUSAH chapter said debate sale was in an effort to highlight what takes place at other universities like Harvard and UNC and that it

was not targeting Clemson. Let me tell you something, Turning Point USA. At Clemson, if y'all don't shut the f up forever, what the hell do people at Clemson care about what's going on at Harvard in UNC. Okay, if you care about what's going on at Harvard and UNC, take that bake sale and stay last cookies to UNC. Okay four hours and sixteen minutes drive via I eighty five North by Okay, Clemson, Clemson, turn Upoint USA. You want to go to Harvard fifteen hours and fifteen minutes

drive via eighty five North and I ninety five North. Buy, Okay. Go. If you're gonna make up reasons to do stuff like this, at least make up decent ones. Okay, at least make up ones that makes sense. Are you trying to highlight what happens at two other schools at your school? Aboord mission, I've seen enough? Okay, and look, I totally disagree with your stands on affirmative action. Okay. Instead of whipping up a fresh table of cookies, how about to simply explain

to me why you are opposed to affirmative action. I would love to hear an intelligent, non racist response, but we know we will never get that because there isn't one. That's why Turning Point USA at Clemson has to resort the silly ass soft batch stunts like this. Please, Turning Point USA at Clemson, the biggest. He are all right, Charlomagne, thank you for that donkey of the day. Now, when we come back, we have author trainer Jason Wilson. He's

been up here before. We're gonna talk to him again. He has a new documentary. We're gonna kick it about. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. I want to get everybody is dj n V Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Man, one of the most necessary black men walk in the face of the earth, Brother Jason Willson. Welcome, brother, brother. How are you doing that? How you finally? You weren't here?

I wasn't here last time. No, No, I wasn't here last time. I was on the road. Wow. A pleasure to meet for people that don't know who you are. You want to just break down quickly what you do, who you are, and some of your history. Well, yeah, my name is Jason Wilson. I'm author of best selling books Cry Like a Man, Breaking Fighting for Freedom from Emotional Incarceration, and my second book is Battle Cry, Waging

and Winning the War Within. I'm also as a founder and CEO of a nonprofit called the Union Base in Detroit, which under this umbrella is the Cave of Adullam Transformation or Training Academy. But we helped boys navigate through their emotions without succumbing to them. In the world is full of pressure, you know. You know, we didn't talk about this a lot last time. We did, but not really. People don't know your background, and well if you they've

read your books, they know your background. But how you evolved as a human and got to the Jason Wilson, we know, like you was in the street. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I never was a thug, but I hung around those who were in gangs in my community. You know. Again it was I didn't have a father, so and my brothers, two of them were murdered, actually one at that time when I was younger. Then my other brother moved to Texas. So I needed the camaraderie and so

I hung around everyone who was in the games. But I wasn't like actively in it. However, I risked my life many times trying to fit this mode of what it is to be a thug. And then after losing a lot of friends to violence, and then more importantly answering my call to the most high. That's when my life completely changed into the man that I am today. Do you remember the turning point? Like do you remember

that that like bug moment? It took me almost dying twice and then those incidents being connected to prophetic you know words. So basically, one time I was driving a good friend of mine's truck. At the time, he was the number one draft pick in the NBA, and he told me his mother told him not to drive the truck, but he allowed me to drive it to go to the studio because she said someone had to get an accident.

That someone was me. So when I was driving back from the studio brothers, a car start right in front of me, and by the time I got up on it, it was I was driving a fore run of truck and at the time they were top heavy, So when I I went to swerve, the truck flipped over two times. Some ruth opened windows down, sounds blasting, and I survived.

But what he struck you myself? Yes, So when he came into the emergency room screaming and crying like dog, you know you gotta listen, I'm like, dude, I'm finally just got me on this board just in case I have any damage vertebrates. He says, no, my mother told me this was going to happen, and you gotta answer your call. But even then I still didn't listen. So

fast forward another maybe four years. I'm working for Coca Cola and I'm talking to Nicole, who is my wife now, and I'm upset brother, because I'm working twelve hour days. I'm gifted in music and it's helping mentoring young boys, but yet I'm in this plant all day. And so we're on the phone and I said, you know what, God ain't real, so don't tell me about praying or any of that stuff. Because if he was real, why I'm in here wasting my life where I can't even

spend time with my daughter. I hang the phone up. Ten minutes later, I go, like every night, to the Palette truck. For the first time, the driver didn't lock the brakes on the semi. I hit the back of the truck with my high low couldn't get on it first, back up. I'm angry because I couldn't get on. Then I hit it again and I'm able to get on, but this time because the brakes weren't chalked or locked. The bed of the truck pushed away from me, but I was leaving the dock. High Low falls to her

needed this fall off the high low the truck. The back of the truck was about to roll back on me, but the forks of the high low dropped down and stop the truck. And then my friend gets inside the high low to hit the brakes on that so it wouldn't crush me. At that point, I looked up to the sky and I said, most high, I said, I never go against you again. Wow. Literally, we're trying to

buy a house where we're getting married. The week before we had to close the truck and company wanted to settle with me, and that's how we had the money to close on the house. And ever since then, Brothers, I haven't looked back. You know, truthfully, you know, I'm a guy that just like keeping my hands to the plow. You know, this is a blessing that I haven't opportunity to share what has happened in my life so it

can inspire others. But I never desired any of the attention, or rather just the lights cut off and I do what I need to do. And what got you into martial arts. Always desired you know, my father was in the same city but wasn't actively in my life. So I desired to have that man, you know, teach me not only how to fight, every boy wants to learn

how to defend himself. But it was when you see the old Marshal Art movies, you see the since walking along with them, helping them throughout life, and I yearned for that and I didn't have it. Even when I first started martial arts in my backyard, I didn't have a teacher. I kind of felt like David and the scriptures where the most high it's testified as the one

who trained him for war. But then after that moment, I started seeking going into marshal Art schools, and it the challenge of facing your fears, you know, facing your anxieties, your insecurities. In sports you can kind of hide from it, and martial arts when the punch coming at you, a kick and elboy, someone's trying to choke you or take your back like in jiu jitsu, you got to be able to stay calm enough to be able to counter

all of that. And so that journey just never stopped even now, as a man, I still have what we call a moment on a mat. We even have fathers who would get on the train in the cave and their breakdown crying because a certain technique or training take them back to a moment in their childhood where it's painful. It's interesting, right because you know when I hear you tell your story, or I think about stories of evolution, like you know, Malcolm Max, so I think about anything

that we've even been through. It feels like this generation of kids aren't getting the opportunity to make the same mistake. Well, a big shout out to Orange, New Jersey. We was just there yesterday, superintended Abdul Salim Hassan. He was reading my book Battle Cry. This brother is so active in the community man, he has father groups. One of the main things the thing we were talking about is that the boys didn't feel like they had enough grace to make a mistake. And so when a boy fears failure,

he tries to play it safe. And as we know, the safe route for me, you know my ultimatum. If I couldn't have made it in music, because I also was a music producer, I was gonna sell drugs with my brother. Okay, because that was the quick way out. I can get money. He's a millionaire established in the streets, so I can make it happen. But to do things it's hard, like start a nonprofit, serve the community, be

able to bless all my other friends with employment. My brother ron Lee Junior here has been with me my twenty two years. And so it was the boys, woman young man. I never forgot. He started showing his emotions because it's hard to get boys to express themselves in a culture that tells us that crying is weak for men. And I said, you know, where's your father? And that's

when everything started pouring out of him. And I always get to my knees to make sure they know I'm all in for what you're talking about, and I welcome your tears. It was trial and error, trial and error learning, and he's not there, and then next thing you know, the other boys start opening up. And so in the cave what we do. The first thing you learn when you come to the Cave of Adullum is how to fall.

So we teach you you though, but the life principle is if you know how to fall correctly, you can get back up. No matter how hard someone throws you. All right, well, don't move. We got more with Jason Wilson. When we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Everybody is d Envy Charlemagne the guy we are to Breakfast Club. Were still kicking it with Jason Wilson. You talk about the cave. For people that don't know what that is, dull the Cave of Adullam. Explain to people

what that is. There's also a new film, but for people are just tuning in, we're talking to Jason well and they might not know they hear you talk of the cave, or somebody wanted to join the cave to break down what that is, because if somebody might be confused right now. So the Cave of a Dullham historically is where David ran for his life, David in the Bible, who fought go life and became the king of israel Um. He ran to the Cave of Adullum, which is a

cave in the city of a Dullam. And the story goes that one hundred men who were distressed, discontented, end in debt came to him and he became a captain. And what's beautiful about that history is that the way these men came into that cave, they didn't leave that way. When they left, they would call mighty men of balance. So the Cave of a Dulham presently is a transformational

training academy in Detroit. Our mission is to teach, train, and transform uninitiated boys and the comprehensive men, men of the most high, men who are physically conscious, mentally astute, and spiraually strong enough to navigate through the pressures of this world without succumbing to their negative emotions. The brother to express himself, Yes, you know what I mean through through Marshal Larkson. He was crying, but he was coaching him through it. I was like, man, that's so powerful.

And then that our Laurence Fitshburn connect. Yeah. And so it was even interesting about the video brother, because that happens a lot in our academy. So when it went viral, we had no idea what was going on. We had to shut our offices down for two days because men were calling all over the world and crying to our women's staff like I wish he was my coach. You know,

I needed that growing up. You know the reason I'm this way now hold onto so much anger because I never was allowed to express those emotions and so that struck a chord that I had no idea that needed to be discussed. And so when that video went viral, I got contacted by three Hollywood producers, one of which was a gentleman named Roy Bank, who said, hey, man, I think this story needs to be told fast forward

him he met with Lawrence Fishburn one day. So when Lawrence saw it, he was just blown away because of his desire for having a ride of passage for our community. And the rest was history here and I became close like brothers, and he's definitely an advocate of what we do, and he sees the importance of helping a boy he needs. Every young boy needs a marking time, whether they said you're no longer allowed to do childish things. And this is why we have so many grown men and stuck

in basements because we haven't gave them a ceremony. Say, this village needs to now treat such and such like a man. He has put away childish things now and he is now to be treated and giving responsibility. And so that's what our goal is in the cave, is to create this comprehensive boy, heal the boy, so we can stop into generational trauma and start into generational healing. Yes, yes, sir, Yes sir. And what's beautiful is that the fathers, I say,

and every grown man is a broken boy inside. And Frederick Douglas says it's easier to raise children than it is to repair broken men. How that is very true. However, we should not leave men broken, and so I have a passion for mending men, using the mat to heal the father in some relationship. Us as men of our era, we grew up, we had to be tough. Don't cry, you know, that's that shows that's a sign of weakness.

And many times when I have recruits doing something completely different, like one instance, we would just doing falls breakfast and one of the young men was started crying, I'm like, what's wrong? And he kept looking at his dad and he looked back at me, and he kept looking at his dad and his dad as a boxer xboxer, And I called his father on him, man, and I shared with him what's going on. And he says, you know, he says, man, I pushed him away too hard. I said,

we'll share that with him. And I sat both of them on the side and they were just hugging each other and talking because he needed to share his wounds with his own son. And so as long as a father fears vulnerability, our sons will grow up and start repressing what they feel. And then the cycle of being like unavailable emotionally for our wives continues, you know. And I know so many good men, especially millennial men, don't have mentors, and so they fear getting married because your

Instagram profile is not your life. Eventually, she's going to see that you worried. She's going to see that you're fearful you got a father or your your mother wasn't there. And so as men, it's like, man, you know, they want to get their ducks in a row, which is admirable, Um, but I always ask him, when is the last time you've seen ducks in a row? You know what I mean? Seriously,

you know. And our good friend, you know, uh, you know, we talked me actually we were outside talking to him, and that was his reason for not marrying a woman. He longed for us in the row. He just wanted to have his finance as the house and everything. And I get that, and that makes sense, But you're about to lose this woman that you can get. And because he married her, they're doing great things right now. My wife and I got it together together. You know, we

worked hard. She made more money than me. You gotta say that again. My wife and I got it together together, and so I wouldn't I didn't want to lose my wife for my producing dreams. But because she made more money than me didn't make me less of a man, less of a leader. I still led my home. I put her check in our bank account. And now you know, my wife learned too well. I learned to value myself

more than from what I do. And that's why when I get approached by men, you know, I mean doctors, lawyers come up to me, crime man say, I don't feel valuable because we base everything on what we do instead of who we are, and that's why we work tirelessly. We adopted the grinding mentality, which is killing a lot of us. Let me ask, I want to go back to what you're saying, not to cut you off. I want to know you did cut him off. No, because I want to go back before because he's about to change.

You were talking about the boxes. Yeah, and he was talking about his son and he said it he was too hard on his son. Now, now, how do you tell the people that come to the cave about pushing that child? Because we look at so many instances where our father pushes their child. And then we see greats, whether it's Beyonce or it's Michael Jackson, and you see a lot of these greats, but you also see it

because they push their child to that limit. And you do understand that if that father didn't push that child, we wouldn't have that. So, so how do you blur that? You know, depends on your definition of success? Is it money and a lack of peace, a lack of having true confidence that your parents really loved you. So I talked to a lot of successful people who families have pushed them, but yet they're struggling mentally right now because

they didn't get the love. You see what I'm saying, And so it's like it's not even a fine line, you know, And so sometimes that pushing is abuse. Brother, I we don't move. We got more with Jason Wilson. When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club is back. Where I want to be morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Jason Wilson Charlemagne. No. You know what I love about God? Man,

Like God is the best NOI in planner, Right. You think about this, This film The Cave of Iwa was pronouncing Cave of a Dullam exactly produced by Launce Fishburn. It's probably could have went anywhere. Look where it ended up. ESPN, the worldwide leader in sports, a network that you know so many men watch. Like God put that dock exactly where it needed to be for who needed to see

absolutely man. And what's the blessing is when I get reached out to my NBA players or football players to see their transparency and wanting to grow, wanting to become better husbands and better fathers and better individuals. Man, it just makes the the hard work, the blood sweat, and literally the tears worth it, because you know we'll see the cars, the fame, top seventy five in history. But

yet they're struggling behind the scenes. They're hurting. They want to say their marriage, they want to be more patient, they don't want to yell at their kids because they're running late at school, you know, for school, and so to be able to be a source of encouragement somewhat like a spiritual father to them all, and then for them to watch the Cave of a Dollar Cave of Adullum documentary and see themselves in one of those boys, and to finally have that healing cry to say, wow,

I've been holding on a lot of this pain of how my father would always condemn me when I would make a mistake, or my mother was emotionally checked out because my brother was murdered, and I never really got that nurturing love, and then to get that healing and then to go back to your father and say, hey, Dad, I forgive you, I love you. Can we start fresh now? Or Mom, I completely understand why you guarded your heart because of the heaviness of the brokenness of you losing

my brother and your son. And that's the beauty of the Cave documentary. It showcases that although as a people in our communities we experienced a lot of trauma, it doesn't have to be our experience, our entire experience. I want to go back to something you said earlier, because you know, NBA Young Boy just did an interview with Billboard and he expressed the same thing. And I've heard

a lot of people expressed this. I've expressed it myself, you know, just as far as you know, the content that we may have created as we were growing and evolving, and you know, you was talking about the music, and I'm like, how much we should give ourselves a lot of grace in regards to the music we used to create or even the content we used to create, because we literally were doing the best with what we had and we were in survival mold and and I'm a type of person I feel like you got to give

people grace when they're doing what they feel like they need to do to survive and not necessarily and what I mean, I can use my brother for example, he sold drugs because he needed he thought that's what he needed to do to survive. As a result, a lot of people lost their lives. So I can't really, you know, celebrate that, not celebrate that. But once he knew better, he started doing better. No he didn't. Oh man, he

died terrible death and he didn't do better. And so again I didn't come out because I just I knew. I knew I was wrong. I knew I shouldn't have been doing what I was doing with my gift. But it was those two near death experiences that changed me. Now I do get what you're saying. Have enough great yourself to not condemn yourself for some wrong that you've done. Forgive yourself and move forward. But we still have to acknowledge that what we were doing was wrong, and that's

the key. If not, you know, the next generation will keep doing it, and then the next generation. And we came up and what they considered a golden era of hip hop, you know. And so you look at the covers. I was just sharing this with the young kids yesterday. None of the rappers I love smile out on the album cover, and so we call it an asset framed marketing.

So now in the cave where if you look at the first class picture, everyone was tough, Now all of my boys smile because it's imperative that we changed this narrative. And so what's wrong with smiling? You know? You what, you don't want to be perceived as a joke. You know, I know guys that have smiled, You wouldn't stand one minute with them, in a ring or on a map. It does not dictate who you are as a man. So I want to be compassionate, but also want to

be courageous. I want to be sincere, but I want to be strong. And so that's what I want to model for boys and men, because at the end of the day, none of us want to stay in what I call like lyon mold or fight a flight where you gotta be grimming all the time and tough looking over your shoulder. I have to be that way when I have to be. But I want to live in the lamb. I want to be at peace. I want

to chill in the green pastures as long as I can. However, when a predator comes or threat comes, the lion will arise and defend the pride. And that's the importance of us as men to model that. Even in the hip hop culture, like a lot of rappers that reach out to me I was like a fan of and so it blesses me to hear them say, man, I really respect what you're doing, and I want to become that

type of man. And as you know, from the survival standpoint and hip hop, many of us did what we had to do to eat, But a lot of that was in a dream. We want to be rich, we want to be paid. And truth be told, in Detroit, the majority of drug dealers, I knew they didn't have to sell drugs. Yeah, so drugs because you got props from it, you got women, you got the cars. It wasn't a necessity to eat. But that all comes from a place of lack right, not necessarily lack of financi affirmation.

Brother feeling special celebrating that, and so my brother wasn't starving. But when his friends pulled up in the BMW, he's working at a gas station pumping the gas, and the girl he'd liked was in the car, and they all laughed at him and pulled off. He vowed he would that would never happen to him again. And when I said it never happened to him again, it never happened to him again. But unfortunately he's not here to see his daughter life. I wonder if we can play that

NBA young boy, click? Can you play it from the board right now? I'm terrified people, and I'm very shocked that I never knew why once I walk on the stage I would get it done. I'm terrified the people. People are cruels, like you can't control to yourself so you're never know or someone who threw him. I always wanted to be a rapper. It's always my dream. I never had a plan. B. I can't down on top fore them. You know, I will not be provoked and I'm not going back to why I used to be.

I only get more grooved from here. Wow. You get a pain in that brother's voice. Absolutely, and that's you know again, I don't I don't condemn. I want to be clear. I don't condemn where these rappers are right now. You know, I look at them as my sons and I can't say their name, and when they reach out, I'd be like, I'm here for you, you know, call me. And that's the scariest step for many of them. It's like, man, okay, here's a man who's finally willing to engage in my life.

But that fear of taking that first step to healing. Um. I had a UFC fire to come visit me. Literally we're talking one day. I said, we'll look, just come see me, man if it's that heavy, he said, I'm there in the morning at six am. So he flew in for the first time, and he's met with therapists before. I had him right out all of his past trauma and he looked at it and broke down crying in my chair and hit in the chair in the office.

Champion Fighter never was able to face that. And so one of our greatest fears is men is dealing with ourselves. That's why we can't sit in a room when it's quiet. We got to always be on the phone or smoking or doing something drinking. But when you can put all of that aside and just sit still, no matter if it's shaking you to the core, and ready to face it, then you can start healing. That's why I choose to use my platform in such a way where I'm not perfect.

I strive for excellence. I used to strive for perfection, but on my desk right now as a plaque that says excellentist, because that's all I can strive for. I can't be a perfectionist, and I want people to see my life even with my wife and I. You know twenty five years. This year wasn't an easy journey. No infidelity, no gambling, no we just miss you so finances, we just didn't get along, we would the years of just me being negative to her or her years of not

trusting me. I can give a recent example, which was kind of funny. We're in counseling, marital counseling, and our therapist was like, okay, since no one is mind readers, Nicole, you asked Jason what you would like one thing, and then Jason you asked her what you would like. So my wife says, well, Jay, when you come home, I would love for you to acknowledge me first instead of going to a little ja. I said, okay, I'll do that,

and then he says, what about you, Jay? And so I'm sitting there inside of me, I'm like, I wish you would just submit to me, submit to my leadership, you know, stop bucking against what I say. That's the flesh, that's anger. But what I really was feeling was like it hurts because she doesn't trust me. And so I turned to Nicole I said, hey, um, I would like for you to trust me, and she just shook head and she knew exactly what I was saying because that

was from my heart. Absolutely damn a lot of knowledge. Appreciate You're gonna get battle, cry, go get like a man. Order them on Amazon wherever you buy books. Now make sure you watch you know, it's on ESPN Plus and then uh, it randomly airs on ESPN. So I appreciate ESPN doing that just to get it out. And we're also doing like live screenings of the film. And then we have a fireside chat for social and emotional learning

for students so they can see the value. Yes, so they can see the value in expressing their emotions before they become toxic thoughts and following them on social media. Yes, mister Jason O. Wilson. All right, Jason Wilsons, and I value you and I appreciate you. Man, appreciate you to everybody. Come on, Charlemagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

Now it's Black History Month. It's definitely Black History Month, and you know every day during Black History Month, the Black Effect Podcast Network, along with iHeartRadio, we put out a new podcast called I Didn't Know, Maybe You Didn't Need. The hosted about my guy b Dot, and b Dot tells you from things that are happening in black history and black culture that you may not have known about.

Our things that have happened that you may not have known about and today we have some language that you may not have known where this term derived from. But I bet you after you know, you won't use it no more. I didn't know, I didn't know. It's season one way threw our words that we just aren't using any more. But here's got a couple of the terms that I know I personally won't be using anymore. Duncan booth or cheaper about the dozen. Matter of fact, I

go ahead and get you that one. In those enslaved times, they used to put the mutilated enslaved people in groups of twelve, and it would be discounts on that twelve, which means you can get this group cheaper about the dozens. Now, when you think about somebody being knocked up, you usually think about pregnancy. You know, oh, she got knocked up, she's pregnant. Now, the Oxford English Dictionary traces to turn

back to eighteen thirteen. Now I dig this back. Then, the price of an enslaved African woman was knocked up by the auctioneer. If she's pregnant, say you was getting a bogo two for one. So in the enslaved periods, if she was pregnant, oh, that price was knocked up when she went to go get sold the same way. Now you can hear someone say, oh she's pregnant. She been knocked up. Now take that to school or work with you. Because I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either.

That's right. Scowth to my guy b dot Man and make sure you subscribe to I didn't know. Maybe you didn't need the you know on the Black Effect. iHeartRadio podcast network available everywhere you listen to podcasts. All right, when we come back, we got the positive note it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody, a cej Envy Charlemagne

the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. You got a positive I do, but I got a couple of announcement so I want to make first of all, man, I want to first of all tell us like it's church, no it is. These are church and nomis. We do this on Brilliant Initius Church Noss, but I'm doing them here. February eighth, Brooklyn Public Library from seven pm the eight thirty pm. Myself along with Tamika Mallory and I need a copax. We will be there representing my book in print,

Black Privilege Publishing. You know I got a book in print with Simon and Schuster. We've put out two books through that imprint. One was Tomka de Mallory State of Emergency, How to Win in the Country We built. The other ones A Need to co Packs Shallow Waters. And so they'll be there signing copies of their books. I'll be there signing copies of my books Black Privilege in Shop Point and we're just gonna be having a discussion about books from seven pm to eight thirty pm at the

Brooklyn Public Library. That's on Wednesday, February the eighth. So I will see y'all there, Okay, okay. And the positive note man is something very very simple you should notice already if you don't, but listen, don't just pray when you need something, Okay, Keep God with you every day, Pray all the time. Have a blessed weekend breakfast club bitches. You'll finish or y'all done.