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come up respecting. Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Good morning Angelo. Ye damn money, he's any Charlomagne the guy pace to the planet. Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? Ah? Yes, and today it is so special. I'm gonna tell you why. Why is today special? Um? I think next week, on the second, it will be ten years that we've been

doing the breakfast club. Correct for ten years for this whole week, the weaker thanks given. We've never ever been here alive, no vacation, not one time. We're all somebody. We're always out of town. It's just the weaker Thanksgiving. We're always off. So on the eve of this white Man's holiday, we decided to come in for one day and one day only for a very very very very very special occasion, a very special reason. All Right, there's

a book out. It's called A Promised Land, A Promised Land, right, written by a guy you may know, what's his name. It's kind of popular. I guess who is he? What's his name? I mean, he was the forty fourth president of the United States of America. What's his name? Barack? Who's saying Obama? Barack? Who's saying Obama? Who's that? And I guess you could say we were right. We don't have all all of that fancy ast technology that Oprah has.

The way she can be in our house and way and make it look like her in Baracer in the same room. Now, we don't have that. So we had to get COVID tested and uh, fly down to DC and make sure we were probably socially distanced to sit and kick it with President Barack Obama. Well, not only that they took all our social Security numbers, that the full name that's regular protocol though, you know, made sure that that's on the list. Yeah, you actually also need that.

Don't you need that to get the COVID test? Do you what? But I know, no, I didn't need that information. All that not just social All that information was for the Secret Service protocol is to run it make sure we have a good money. Yeah. I've been vetted before. I actually first time I ever got vetted. I didn't pass at all. We all been vetted, but you didn't pass that one. Yeah, didn't pass that on. But you know, since then, my life has changed. So President Barack Obama

will be joining us next hour. We're gonna kick it with the with the president. Um, that's the only reason we have Yeah, that's the only reason we have communication. I don't even know we were coming in. I was like, wait, we have a show tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, I think it's only only right. It's only right it's the president. And we sat and chopped it up with him for almost an hour. Yeah. Right, So we're also we usually you know, play snippets of the interview on the hair

and then put the whole thing up on YouTube. This morning, we're playing the hole in it. We're playing the hole in it in the seven o'clock hour. Yeah, so we'll get into all of that. Um, that's it. It's the only reason we ha's the only reason we hear anything else. Y'all got if y'all do who feel free? Yeah? We got, we got front page. Who's next we'll be talking about you. Well, let's talk about who Joe Biden has selected for his cabinet.

And let's also talk about coronavirus. This vaccine is supposed to be coming in a couple of weeks, and we'll give you some updates on the side effects. All right, we'll get into all that when we come back. Keep it locked. This to Breakfast Club, Come on morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast. What's happening the next hour? Yes, Barack Obama. President Barack Obama will be joining us, and we're playing the interview in full. So no songs in between, no

commercial breaks. No, it's commercial breaks, not in between. No, it's fifteen fifteen fifteen. No, you shall forty five minutes straight for ya. How y'all finessed that? I don't know. I just asked them right there I'm like, no commercials. It was like, nah, we're gonna We're gonna rocket straight. There was like only a couple of people can do that. There was like, uh, Barack Hove, Beyonce, and Michelle Obama the only four people that can get on. Yeah without

playing we can debate all of those. What let's get some front page news. I ain't gonna front I don't even know who's playing football lamorrow. I don't even know. I've been chilling at home. Come on, man, Cowboys, redskins? You know that? Who cares about those? Exactly? So waste of time. There should be social distances away from the NFL. I went from, all, right, what else we got you? Well, Joe Biden is building out his cabinets. It's been sucking presidents.

That's our president elect. And there's fifteen executive departments and so far. Of course, Kamala Harris, we know his vice president. Secretary of State is Anthony B. Lincoln. Secretary of Homeland Security is Alejandro Mayorkas. And that's a big one because he actually is the first Latino and he's also the

first immigrant to serve in that position. So that's going to be a big deal, right, now, because you know, we've had a lot of issues with immigration in this country and doc and all of that, so this could be something. And he says that he would have never seen himself in that position. So he's hoping to help out people who are fleeing from persecution and other things, coming to this country for a better life. All right, Yes, and Donald Trump is finally seems like allowing this transition

to happen. Joe Biden had tweeted out, the election is over. It's time to put aside the partisanship and the rhetoric designed to demonize one another. We have to come together. So yes, it looks like, begrudgingly, we are going to move forward. I just don't see handing this normally. I just I just don't see it. I mean, it's relatively normal by Trump's Nay, it hasn't been. I don't see an ending just just normally. I just don't see it. I think we're gonna part in mad people, though he parted,

may well, you need to start with himself. I don't know if he can do that. Dog watching that on scene an last thing, don't they don't know if he can actually do that. It's never been done before. There's nothing in the constitution that says you can't. If I'm not mistaken, it doesn't have to be all right, it's been locked up first. I have no idea US COVID nineteen cases could reach twenty million. They're saying by the

inauguration day on January twentieth, but by December tenth. They're saying that they could start soon after December tenth distributing the COVID nineteen vaccine. They are going to start doing some testing in pregnant women and children though, so you know a lot of people are reluctant to actually take this vaccine, but right now they have to show that it's safe and make sure that group can take it.

They also said that doctors are saying that the CDC should have warned people about the side effects from COVID vaccine shots, and they said it will not be a walk in the park. So you have to get the first shot of the vaccine and then you have to come back and get a second shot. Also, it requires two doses, and one doctor is worried patients will come back won't come back for a second dose because of

the unpleasant side effects after the first shot. That could include symptoms like muscle pains, chills, and headaches, which is also symptoms associated with mile COVID nineteen. And they also need to make sure people are aware of that. Yeah, I just think it's whacked that us. You know, you hear Governor Cuomo in New York. Can you hear Joe Biden say that we have to get this to the African American community first, because you know, they're the one

being impacted by it the most. They don't feel like that about anything else. They don't feel like that when it comes to better education, they don't feel like that when it comes to economic equity packages. You know, they don't feel like that when it comes to mental healthcare resources in our communities. So why aren't such a rush to push this vaccine in the hood. How's that? I want to though? I thought they were giving it to healthcare work there. They given the healthcare workers, and then

they said the elderly and then everybody else. Governor Cuomo and Joe Biden both said, verbatim out of their mouth, we have to get this to the African American community first because it's impacting them the most. Yeah, but I know they're given it to healthcare workers. First. That was the first step, and then they said elderly. But I mean, I'll be honest with you. I'm at a point right now where I'm like, yo, it is what it is. Man. If I got to take this vaccine, I'm gonna take

the vaccine. I missed my mother and my father. I can't see him on Thanksgiving. I probably won't see him on Christmas. I'm tired, man. I want to see my mama. Can I cook my mama? Can I get my dad a hug? I'll be right behind you. Go, guinea pig, Go, go, guinea pig, go, Go get out there, Go do your thing. Baby. All right, it might make your bid be permanently black, all right, I might not have to diet no more.

All right. I'm going for it. Man. What if your bid turns black but your skin turns gray if you take that damn vaccine, that's all right. I won't die, though, but as long as I can. You don't know, you know, it was so many people dying like this has been an FWA, and I want to I want to see my mom and my pops like I want to spend time with them. I want to spend time with them for Thanksgiving. I don't want to zoom them for Thanksgiving as it's well, guess what Thanksgiving us tomorrow. I'm okay.

So somebody pulls upon you to day with a vaccine, you better not take it, dumb ass. All right, hey, I heard you want to see you mom. I'm in this need upon you. It might be wrong with you, it might be arrow with And as far as Joe Biden's cabinet, doctor Ruth Simmons needs to be his Secretary of Education because we all know the greatest and most long lasting form of systemic racism has been in the

education system. So it's not a black person that's gonna be Treasury Secretary Ruth Simmons should be, Uh Secretary of Education, Doctor Ruth Simons, Googler. All right, well that is your front page news. Get it off your chests. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Yeah, we are live. Usually we're on vacation right now, but uh, we have an interview next hour with somebody you might know, President

Barack Obama. You know, yes, yeah, we're gonna be kicking with President Barack Obama. No, breaks uh no commercials uh no interruptions with music. We're gonna be talking to him straight. That has never happened the ten years we've been a paddle, We've never done that because we always just put pieces of regardless of how long an interview is, we always just put pieces of it on the air. Put the full thing up on YouTube. But you know it's a

holiday week, man, tomorrow, give me. We are supposed to be hitting nowhere, right all right, all right, well it's the Breakfast Club. Co morning, the Breakfast Club. I'm telling, I'm telling what you're doing all of year. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Janelle? Ay, Janelle,

get it off your chest. I just want to have a clue bomb drop for me on my birthday, Saturday, Happy Birthday. What are you doing this year? Um? Staying the house? Just as I just like to see what creative things people are doing for their birthday during this time because my birthday is coming up too, and I don't think I'll be doing much either where. We was gonna go to Sloppy Chops, me and my husband. I love sloppy. Sloppy Chops. They open, we're gonna be takeout.

There only doing takeout. They're only doing takeout. Yes, Sloppy Chops is a restaurant in Detroit. What up though. They serve the most amazing seafood and steaks and food. I went there like a week ago, two weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah, BTS just did a giveaway with them yesterday for our families and they just gave away free food all day. There's a bunch of brothers that own that they own a couple of another one called Slappy Crabs, I believe. Yeah,

downtown Detroit brothers doing that thing. Man. Yeah, yeah. So clap it up for Juneil, Clap it up for Happy Birthday. Happy birthday. And I'm proud of you guys for the interview. I'm proud of you guys for everything you guys are doing. Congratulate lections. God bless you guys, God bless the world. Let's heel together and let's get this coronavirus under control. Beautiful Sagittarius, my wife is a Sagittarius. Get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one on five one.

If you need to vent, hit us up. Now. It's the breakfast club. Come on the breakfast club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man from you on the breakfast club. But you got something on your mind. Let hello? Who's this? Hey? This King Jim and I Man, how y'all doing? What's up? Brother? Get off your chest? All right? So um last night right huh? I was performing oral sex with my girl and all that right, and he's about the combat and

she farked in my face. Man. That means she was doing it. That means she was doing it real good. I means you got pinks. Yeah, you know what i't. I ain't got pink cotys. But real quick, hey, Charlotte, man, give me a huge favorite. Man, I will not fart on you. Don't you dare ask me too? No? I was wondering if you can send me your book of staring man, have a rock Obama sign it for me? That would be great. What I don't have it? I only have one copy of a Promised Land. Oh I

only had one. Only he only sent us three copies. He sent one feature of us. I don't. And I'm actually sending the mind to my mom. To be honest with you. Somebody stole mine in the in the mail, so I had to go buy another one. Oh man, I was really hoping on that one though, if I had it with yours. I got a copy of I got a copy of Doctor readA Walker's Book up here. Oh yeah, hey, I'll take that and for me, and I'll send you a copy of mine. And it's not like I sold one point seven in the first week

like Barrock did. I just been doing well in the book world though. Yeah, yeah, I know. I actually listen to your books. I ain't reading me yet though, but you know, listen, I'm gonna get your put you on hold, and they're gonna get your address're gonna mail it out to you. Brother. Hold on, stinky, Hello, who's this morning? Good morning? Get it off your chests, all right, So Charlotte May, Yes, good morning to you, Good morning to you, Good morning. So yesterday my husband was he went up

for parole. Okay, um, he's been locked up for like nineteen years. I actually wrote a last to President Obama a few years ago to see if he can maybe be parted. So a long story short. My husband goes up for parole. They gave him ten more years. Crazy why I don't know. I don't know. I didn't ask why. I didn't care. I said, what's up? You know what I'm saying, like you come home or not? He liked not again, sending years and I'm like, the boys, shoot my friend. That was crazy. I think they need yeah

out here. I don't take care of kids ten years period. So he already did nineteen and they gave him another ten and didn't tell him why they gave him another ten. Said they told him his case play was messed up, something dealing with the case enators. And I'm like, this is ridiculous because he committed a crime. But he said he said his time, and he kind of al samll, You're like, I'm struggling to take care of my nine kids,

saying my husband in prison. It's crazy. Something had to happen, if something, he must have did something in prison for him to give him another ten years. You know what, traveler Mary like. Honestly, I don't know. I wasn't able to watch his hearing. Normally they can let you watch it life stream. I wasn't able to it wasn't air. So I'm like, that was God. You know what I'm saying, saying telling me to let me fall back and go ahead and let me handle this. I don't know what

happened in that here. I couldn't tell you. I don't know, but I had to get off my chest. I mean, christ is just today and it's like this is real. It's real, and I wish I could tell you something to help you, but I don't even know what to say to you at the time like this, To be honest, I know, and it's okay, like no one has anything to say. It's all because my kids keep giving me encouraging words. You know what. I'm trying to be thrown

him up early. I couldn't even sleep last man, and I'm up early, Like what am I about to do with my life? Ten more years of being dedicated to a man in prison? I love him with death, That's like, I love him with all my heart. But yeah, you can't do you can you can't, you can't. You can't do his bid with him, you know, and and you know supporting him is one thing, but you can't put your life on hold. Damn. I'm cool a lot of

half stacks. You know what I'm telling forty five. I don't had enough sex the last year the rest of my life. I'm cool. I'm away from my man to come home. I just think it's crazy crazy. We're praying for you, absolutely, Mama, Lord at mercy. I wish I could do something else, but I don't know what else to do. Thank you for calling. Good luck and try to join the outs. Mama. When when the president comes in, tell him Brandon Gord that's my husband's name. I wrote

him a letter a couple of years ago. We already did the interview on Monday. Go Mama, Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not the president no more. And he's not the president. You have to reach out the Trump the president. Yeah, but that's fright. I'm sorry, thank you, all right, gee, all right, we'll get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now. Now we got roomors on the way he has and tuck about Grammy nominations.

The Grammy Award nominations are here, and we'll tell you what some of the reactions are from who's nominated. All Right, we'll get into that next it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the first Club. Yeah morning, everybody is DJ d Angela, yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club, and uh invest in fifteen minutes, what's less than fifty President Barack Obama, we're gonna be kicking it with President Barack Obama. We will summoned, yeah to DC. And you know, it's so interesting.

We're always off this week, like we're never ever here the week of this white Man's holiday, you know. But since we shot down to DC because we don't have the fancy technology that Oprah has the great team, like we're just all in the same studio. We actually had to get COVID tested and go down then socially distance and all that good stuff, and that that conversation will play back up next hour. Yeah, that's right and less than uh fifteen minutes. So let's get to the rooms.

Let's talk. The Grammys just got Breakfast Club. Now. We said we don't have the technology to do that. What Oprah did? We don't even have the technology to get this thing working right. Years into trade and we don't know what's going on. Yeah you there, Ye what up? Doe? Okay, he's not there, all right, So let's talk about the Grammy Awards and some of the nominations that came out.

Did you hear Did you see some of these nominations? Uh? Yeah, I saw some of the fuss on social media yesterday, but you know, it just it just bugs me out when I see all these pro black folks really giving a damn about the white man's validation. But continue, So let's go through some of these nominations. Best Rap Album, all right, uh, D Smoke with Black Habits, Alfredo, Freddy Gibson, The Alchemists, Jay Electronica with a written testimony, King's Disease

NAS and I think it's one more what is it? Um? All great projects. I haven't heard D Smoke saluted D Smoke, Um, I honestly slept on the brother. I definitely haven't heard of Black Habits, but all of those other albums, they

deserve to be there. I just feel like a little Baby should have been there with my baby definitely should have been like Roddy Rich should have been there with Rich should have been excuse me for me and Antisocial And I definitely think m Conway the Machine or been in the Butcher should should should have been should have been in there too, especially Conway project was phenomenal. It was, and it's been out long enough way it should have been nominated. I agree, But you know I'm not gonna lie.

I love Jay Electronics album. I love a written testimony too. I might be one of the few people based off the conversations that I'd be happy really Um yeah, a lot of people. I think people had two high expectations for it, only because they've been waiting for a jail electronic a project for so long and it had all those whole guest appearances. I think people would I thought it was dope and they had a very very high

expenitating for it. I thought it was phenomenal. It got washed away, and I don't know why I got washed away. It was something that happened right during that time. I don't know if it was George Floyd or if it was the pandemic that hit right now, a little bit of both. And then the album kind of got washed away because they're supposed to go on toys, supposed to

be a huge announcement. But I really love Jay Electronic out based off that category, A Little Baby definitely should have been there, Like I said, Roddy Richard, one of the one of the Grids elder brothers. I think you've been here, Conway. But for that category, I get at the Nas King Dream personally, yeah, Personal Kings Disease and Never Kings Dream of the Kings Disease and NAS has never gotten a Grammy, never got Na's never never a Grammy.

So NAS should definitely went out this year best Rap Song, The Bigger Picture, Little Baby, who else the Box Roddy rich laugh now, cry later. I felt like that just came out, Uh, rock Star the Baby, Roddy rich and Savage, Beyonce and Maga A Stallion. I don't know why Savage is in the Best Rap Song though, I guess yeah, guess yeah. They were rapping, but I, um, I think Savage, You think Savage. I think Savage wins that or the Bigger Picture. UM, I don't know what the metrics started.

I don't be honest with you. I don't care. Like it's like, you know, I see everybody getting upset about the Grammys, and I'm like, YEO, who cares with them? Coltur really clueless white people think? You know, if I had to pick a song my personal favorite out of that bunch of probably would be bigger. Picture rock Star is a bigger record though rock I'm just like you know, Savages Savage was huge as Biggs rock Star though. See, I don't know what. I don't know what the metrics.

I don't know what the metrics are. I don't know. Well, the Weekend tweeted out yesterday the Grammys remain corrupt. You owe me my fans in the industry transparent. Yeah, listen, the Weekend definitely got robbed because you know, the Grammys. I don't look for them the hip hop. Look for them for hip hop, right, but I definitely look for them for I guess the R and B pop stuff.

The Blinding Lights was the biggest record of yet, right yes, well by by whatever metric you can measure, and Heartless another big song on the album, really well well album of the year. They put Taylor Swift post Malone too much. God damn man ain't already I like to drop black poomas? What black poomas? I don't know? Cold Play? Oh my god, Jacob call Yeah, that's y h A, I M. I don't know what that is. Drum and do a leap? Do you this and they got Jenneico and what album

of the year. All right, give the Jaico. Don't know nothing else. She's a person of color. Oh my goodness. All right, well that is your rumor report. We don't know where he is. Uh, Like we said, Oprah has the dope technology where she could look like her and Barrock are in the same room. We don't even have enough technology to get Angela then, but we were in the same room and President Barack Oba, he definitely we

went down to DC to have the conversation. So that conversation will be coming on shortly, all right, So keep it lockedice to Breakfast Club coming morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast's happening. Listen. We're only here, okay, listen next next to some of

the six Crap Sunday years a Sunday. I believe that the Breakfast Club has been on the air and for the past ten years, during this week of this white Man's holiday, we never are here, right right, take vacation always and where we've been, we've taken vacation all week. Just Monday we had to fly down the DC. We will summoned because the forty fourth president of the United States of America has a book out called a Promise Lane, and he wanted to do the breakfast club. Right, Okay,

we don't have the fancy technology that Oprah has. We we we had to go down there all right, COVID tests, We socially distanced, and we had a great conversation. The only reason we're here today is because this conversation is airing. Yeah, in a few minutes. Yeah, we all went went down to a hotel in DC and it was it was it was dope. I didn't know what to expect, you know.

It's when when he walked in, it felt like he was one of our brothers, just one of the I don't want to say, one of the homies, but he just seems so cool, so relaxed, so inviting. So just felt like a don't I don't know how to still a politicians, still a politician, but it felt like a thing's given dinner way. He was just cool, like on some cool. I ain't gonna say all that I have still a politician, So what does that mean he can't

be cool being a politician. It was definitely cool. I mess some asses politician that was assholes, you know really yeah, oh names some names name. I mean, it's it's a certain level of it's a certain level of full of you have to be in order to be a politician though, because you're always on right, like, you can't always be happy, correct,

you know what I mean? You got to tell people what he was real about things though, and he was definitely very transparent in the book, very transparent in the book. All right, so we'll talk to President Barack Obama when we come back. Keep it locked. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy and Jula Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. And this is what we do. Every time you were

talking nice and level. This is how we talk every day, and it wasn't coming in high and now you are well, now we are. We have a special guest. He served eight years as the forty fourth President of the United States. Ladies and gentlemen, President Barack Obama. Never heard of him, never heard of him. You know what I heard of y'all. And I appreciate you guys having me. It's wonderful to see you again. Thank you for being in Thank you. Now, we don't have much time, so let's get right into

us A promised Land. Why is that the title for your book? When I think about America, I think about both where we've been, where we might be going. I'm reminded of doctor King's speech, famous speech he gave shortly before he got shot, about I might not get there with you, but I've been at the mountain top and I see the promised land, and I think that that idea that we're not where we need to be, but we still act on the faith and the belief that we can get there. That's how I think about America.

That's how I think about my own political journey. That's not one where it's ever gonna be finished. It's not one where racism is gone or inequality is gone, but what we can continually try to do better. That was the spirit that I wanted to communicate. You're say in the prefaith that America's ideals have always been secondary to conquest and subjugation, a racial cast instiment, that to pretend otherwise is to be complicit in a game that was

rigged from the start. So my question is, if the game is rigged and we know to fight is fixed. How could black people ever believe in this idea of America being a promised the land. That's one argument, and that's how some people feel. And obviously there's evidence of that, slavery,

Jim Crow, Native Americans being driven from their lands. On the other hand, what we also have stories of is abolition and civil rights movement and folks fighting for their freedom and generation passing on a legacy of struggle that results in something a little bit better. What I try to do book as a whole is paying an honest picture about how there's a gap between the myth of

America and the reality of America. Will never completely close that gap, but if we in the effort, if we stay focused, reach out, then we can get closer to the ideal. You know, one of the lessons I try to teach in the book about politics is it's never going to be perfect. We live in a big country with a lot of different points of view. We've got hundreds of years of oppression and discrimination that have to

be overcome. We've got, you know, the natural human impulses that you see around the world, Greed, power, you know, folks trying to get over on others. But you also see kindness, courage, folks looking out for each other, and a lot of goodness along with the bad. And in politics, the job is not to think that you're ever going

to eliminate all the bad. It can can you empower the good to make more kids get a better education, to make sure that some folks have better healthcare, to make sure that you know, there's less discrimination, and that the police are more accountable. And if you if you do that and you stick with it. Yeah, the distance that we've traveled, let's say, just in my lifetime. We were talking before we got on the air. I'm fifty nine. I don't feel old. And in you know, human history,

fifty nine years is a blink of the eye. None of us would have been sitting here fifty nine years ago. We couldn't imagine, you know, you guys having your own show that you control and that you produce. And I couldn't imagine being a former president and having a best selling book that just wasn't in the cards. And that

was just you know, in my lifetime. And so we can imagine if we keep working that maybe our kids, certainly our grandkids, if we do it right, they're going to be that much more ahead of the game now. But you know, one thing we always have to remember is history doesn't just go forward, it can go backwards too, and if we're not vigilant, things can get worse. President Obama, I wanted to ask you something about revend Jeremiah Right from in your book, because you've addressed it, Michelle Obama

has addressed it. Do you think that in today's climate, the comments and the speeches that Jeremiah Right gave would still be looked at the same way where you would have had to distance it yourself from him today. Yeah, you know, it's Look, it's an interesting thing. As I write about in the book. You know, Reverend Right as an example of somebody who supremely gifted Preacher Trinity United Church of Christ on South Side Chicago had amazing ministry still does. I was very close to a lot of

people in that congregation as well as Reverend Right. In national politics, if you can take out a bunch of sound bites that say Goddamn America, even if the context of it is prophetic and biblical, and he's trying to describe how somebody might feel he wasn't promoting the notion that God was damning America. He was making the point that if you looked at slavery and discrimination, you could see the conclusion of people feeling that there was not

an alignment with Christian values and America. But if you'd see it a two minute sound bite trying to explain that is too complicated. In my campaign, I had to constantly manage the fact that truths that black folks experience on a day to day basis are not going to be the same as the truths that the country as a whole experience. But if you want to operate at the highest level of politics, you have to be able to communicate and translate for the country as a whole.

And there were times where I was surprised by the reaction of folks, generally white voters, to certain things that to me didn't seem like it was something they should be surprised or upset about. And I suspect attitudes would probably be a little bit different now. And I give to give one example that I use in the book, when Professor Skip Gates gets arrested in his own house.

I write about the fact that in a press conference I'm asked about it and I said, well, you know, I think the police probably acted stupidly and arresting you know, sixty year old professor who's got a lame leg in his own house after he shown them ideas. Even if he cussed out the police, all they have to do is just leave right and was treated with all kinds of controversy, And my polling with white voters dropped drastically because the notion is somehow I was insulting the police.

I think today, in light of everything that's happened and part of what happened this summer terms of raising awareness of potential bias in the criminal justice system, I suspect that that would not have seemed as much of a controversial statement as it was viewed at the time, even though at the time I didn't think it was particularly controversial.

You talk about that in a Good Fight chapter Henry Lewis gets Gate situation, but you also say that wouldn't have happened to a white person in the same situation. But at the same time you say you wish you had have said that then, which you didn't. So we bite our tongue in situations like that, who were trying to protect one of the things that you that I try to communicate in this book is what's the best way to expand folks understanding right where where do you

see teachable moments? And there have been times where, for example, the tragedy in Charleston, when Pickney and others who are praying and invited a young white man into pray with them, he then shoots them. He's obviously his head's been filled up with racist ideology. That was a teachable moment where I could say some things that I might not have

said in another context, you know. And part of what I also try to describe in the book is the fact that the prophetic voice that you have if you are a civil rights leader, if you're a Malcolm, if you're a Martin, is not going to be the same voice as if you're a politician, Because politicians, the whole thing is, I've got to figure out how do I get this white senator from this conservative state to maybe

support this bill. That's different from me teaching as a civil rights leader or a movement leader, and each each of us have different roles to play in that process. And you know, I think that you know, as as as one of my I think staff people I write about in the book, when I'm running, he says, you know, white folks, they notice you don't look like the other forty two folks that have been president. They're noticing this

is already a radical break for them. And you know, in the same way that Jackie Robinson, there were times where if he hadn't been the first, he would have whooped on somebody who's coming in, sliding with spikes at him or otherwise trying to injure him. But he recognized, all right, there's some things that right now I'm gonna be more diplomatic about that. Maybe the next African American president will not have to be I think those are the kinds of things that you're constantly having a measure

and make decisions about. One thing I love about the book, President Obama, is you talk about your relationship with your wife, and you talk about how your wife is the boss and you're scared of him. You also talk about how every decision has to be approved by your wife. You know, one thing that I love about the book is everybody talks about relationships and sometimes things seem perfect, but in your book you show that things aren't perfect. You know,

I've been married in nineteen years. So when you talk about your wife and you talk about how hard it was and how she didn't want you to run, how bad did it get in the household? Did it ever get to the point where it was like, you know what, maybe this is not going to work for us? Or is that never an option when it came to a relationship. I think I think there were times where certainly she

thought this wasn't gonna work. Michelle is somebody who has a different temperament than me, and I think she'd admit that she has more of a temper than I does than I do. I think she can get more pessimistic sometimes about things than I can. I tend to be pretty even killed. Yeah, I we'll figure this out kind of approach. But as I write about in the book, sometimes that's that itself is frustrating to your partner. Right if you're all like, hey, honey, relax, why are you

getting so excited about stuff? You know? Then she'll be like, oh, you're just not listening to me at all, Right, And I know I listened to you. I'm I'm just saying, you know, it's not so bad. Well, what do you think I'm overreacting? Is that what you're saying, all right, and then you I mean, you're in that pattern. So there's no doubt that there were periods, there were episodes where she was questioning whether the life that I had charted for us was compatible with what she wanted out

of life. You know, she you know, Michelle once told me something that I think summed it up pretty well. She said, I have organized my life not to have a lot of mess in my life, and politics, by definition, brings mess into our household. You've got people that I would never associate with otherwise who now suddenly are talking about us or you know, have impact on our well being, and I don't. That's not what I want. And I

understood that. And the sacrifice she made is one that you know, I've had to work off, you know, the like I I've been. My debt has been it's almost like a payday loan, you know, it just keeps on. The interest was high. How did you get over it? Was it therapy? Was it friends? Was it reverence? Was it church? Was it prayer? When the terms were over? Well?

I think all of the above. Yeah. Michelle talked to right writes about the fact that we went to counseling pre presidency, and that was when the kids were small. And I think anybody who's had small kids, you know, that's always a strain. You know, as much joy as they bring, there is that tension, especially if both uh bouses are working right. Um. And during the White House. Look, I give a lot of credit to my mother in law because Miss Marian, you know, she would Michelle be hot.

You know, she'd go upstairs. My mother in law was living on the in the suite and on the third floor, and Michelle to go up there. And I'm pretty sure she talked Michelle down a couple of times. UM. Friends, one thing we Michelle and I both tell younger couples, you know, who are going through rough patches. Um. I think we were pretty good about the fact that even when things were tough, we never lost basic respect for the other person. We never thought that that person was

a bad person. We never sent things that would make it seem as if, oh, you just completely disrespect me. It was more, look, I love you, Barrock, but you know this is driving me crazy, or you know how much I respect you, but so so. I think that is part of what kept us able to sort this out.

Because we never doubted each other's intentions. And the basic fact that you know, my view of Michelle is she is a remarkable woman, even you know, if she driving me crazy sometimes, I never thought that there was anybody who I would rather be with, No being that you're so even killed, right, did you ever take your frustrations from work home? And did you ever do anything like punch a wall or what did you do when you

got mad? You know? I had there were times where I would have a potty mouth in the Oval office, but we heard some of that, which I appreciate it because well, I mean, I think it's I think it's important to be honest, because part of what I try to describe in the book is the White House, you know, and the presidency. Look, you're the leader of the free world.

Is the most powerful office owner. But it's also a job, and the West Wing is also an office, and you're going to have some of the same frustrations and mistakes and doubts and mishaps as in any office, in any job, which also means sometimes you don't cuss a little bit

because because stuff's frustrating. Um, working out was important, you know, we get those workouts in sometimes, uh, you know, dear friend of ours who who was also a trainer, Cornell McClellan, we would get the boxing gloves out and didn't seem too fullness. A lot of old people in the White House. You can't just say, let's play a pickup game. Those

guys pass out now. I had my weekend game though with Reggie love Right who you know on Reggie at that time was you know, probably he just turned thirty. He wasn't posting up Joe Biden, and so no, we could we couldn't play. We couldn't play in the White House. We had a we had a regular game. Reggie had his crew and so we had regular basketball games. You know a lot of times though, you know, you would just try to take the long view in dealing with frustrations.

If Mitch McConnell and the Republicans were blocking something for no reason, if they were playing games that actually had real consequences in terms of people being able to get healthcare or be able to get some relief from unemployment or what have you. You know, you just had to remind yourself that you were in a long term contest and there were going to be ups and downs. At any given time, but that if you kept your eye on the ball, that you know, sooner or later you

can prepare. You know. In the Yes we Can chapter, you discuss how you were frustrated with the constant need to soften for white folks benefit the blunt truths about racing this country. Do you still feel the need to do that after the last four years? We wouldness? Well, I think we're all a little bit more open and aware. And one of the things that I was really inspired by in the wake of tragedy was the response after George Floyd's murder, because what you saw was not only

people of all walks of life out there protesting. It wasn't just black folks, But when you looked at the polling, you actually saw that by a significant number, many more white Americans were willing to acknowledge problems in the criminal justice system race. Why do we have to wait on them though? Well? Speak to speak our truth to power. You know, what this comes down to is how do you build coalitions to actually get stuff done? Because the truth of the matter is is that in very few

places are African Americans the majority of the vote. You know, it's just simple math, right, so right where we're sitting right now in Washington, DC, that would be the case. But there are not a lot of states, and they're a handful of cities where just the black vote delivers the power then to actually bring about concrete change. So as a consequence, then you've got to pay attention to

how other folks are feeling. That may be frustrating sometimes, And as I said, that's not the job of everybody. The job of a writer like a James Baldwin or a Tanahasi Coates, the job of a preacher, the job of an activist. When I was a community organizer, I'm thinking differently about what I'm communicating because I'm trying to

mobilize a particular segment of my community. Right But when we are talking about politics at the particularly at the state or federal levels, well, you need to be able to persuade some white folks who are not going to think like you. And you may want to say things exactly the way you want to say it, but they may not hear it. And if you don't hear if they don't hear it, then it's not going to help you.

I mean, listen, listen. One thing that I think is absolutely important to recognize is that even people who are not in any way consciously anti black, they don't want to be seen as the bad person. They're always going

to be a little defensive. That's human nature. In the same way, by the way that you know, and you know, you may be able to relate to this more as a man, like you know, if women start talking to men about their issues, a lot of men will get very defensive, very quickly and say, you know that's not me. You know, I treat my woman good, or you know, I'm not the problem, or et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,

and or if they're smart, they will listen and make adjustments. Yes, but the woman has to be allowed to be able to speak their truth to power, of course. But you know, listen, part of the book you talk about that, That's what I was going to ask you next, right, you talk about the women on your team and them having issues with men interrupting them constantly and taking their ideas and making it their own. And as a matter of fact, that was happening, they were feeling so intimidated by it

that they didn't even want to speak anymore. And sometimes because of that, and that was something that you guys had to adjust. And I feel like that's something that happens in the workplace all the time to this day. So absolutely part of what had to happen was the women had to bring it to me. Then we all had to talk about it. I had to get educated on what was happening, because a lot of times this

wasn't happening in front of me. As I said, the guys would be on their best behavior a lot of times in front of me, but in meetings where I wasn't in suddenly you had some of these macho attitudes coming up. My point is that as we think about social change, whether we're talking about race, whether we're talking about gender, whether we're talking about sexual orientation, you know,

this stuff is deep in everybody, right. We all have all these attitudes that have been built up over time, what we learned from our parents, what we learned from our communities, our neighborhoods. And there are times where the best thing to do is just be blunt and say you know what you know you are being racist or

you are being sexist. There are times where the better thing to do is listen, I understand you know, you've got your own issues and this is you know, I think you mean well, but let me tell you, like how this is interpreted by me, right, and in each of those situations, and there's no formula, right, You're trying to figure it out at any given time. How can I get other people to see my reality in a way that leads them to change their behavior, leads them

to support changes in laws and institutions. And you know, but as as you quoted, that's frustrating, right, you' not you'd you'd prefer not having to do this at all. You know, I'm not the first person to write about the fact that it is sometimes exhausting to feel as if you got to educate folks about just being treated normally unfairly. Right, I prefer not having that legacy that we have to deal with with reading this book and all that you did for every community, including our own community.

How do you take it when you hear, especially African Americans minorities say that, you know, they feel that President but Rock didn't do enough for minorities, didn't do enough for black people people. You know, what are your thoughts on that? I understand it because when I got elected

there was so much excitement and hope. And I also think that we generally view the presidency as almost like a monarchy in the sense of, well, once the presidents there, he can just do whatever it needs to get done. And if he's not doing it, then it must be because he didn't want to do it. Well, we see what Trump soo, so he does what he wants to do. So people listening right because he breaks laws and or

or disregards the Constitution. But I think that anybody who goes into public life they need to understand that, yeah, you're going to get criticized because that's just the nature of it. If you don't want that, then you shouldn't be in that business. The good news for me was that I was very confident in what I had done

for black folks because I had the statistics to prove it. Right. So, by the time I left office, you had seen three million African Americans have healthcare that didn't have it before. You had seen the incarceration rate, the number of black folks in prison drop for the first time in years. You had seen the juvenile correction system thirty percent fewer people in there. You had seen black poverty dropped to

its lowest level since nineteen sixty eight. You had seen black businesses rise, you had seen black income go up. So I could just look at the data and I could say millions of black folks were better off at the time I left office than when I came in.

And you know what I have to accept, and I think what any president has to accept is the fact that, Okay, so I got twenty million people healthcare, but there's still ten million out there who don't have healthcare because Republicans blocked me from doing everything I wanted to do with Obamacare because some states didn't, you know, accept Medicaid dollars even though it wasn't going to cass them a dime,

just because they wanted to oppose me. So if you were black and you're one of those ten million who didn't get healthcare because they were living in a state that didn't accept the money we were giving them, I can understand why they would be upset. How come things didn't change. I think people want to know, like, what

did you do specifically for black people? Not the rising tide lifts all boats types of rhetoric, because we all know black people's boat got to hold in it so the systemic things that were done to black people to put us in these positions need specific systemic things to get us out. So well, but what I'm doing, what I'm saying, travel Mayne, is black property dropped faster than everybody else. Black incomes went up more than a lot

of other folks. So you know, the issue is sometimes we just didn't go around advertising that because once again, the goal here is to build coalitions where everybody is getting something so that they all feel like they've got a stake in it. But a lot of my policies were targeted towards people most in need. Those folks are

disproportionately African American. Now, there are some things that for example, US having a civil Rights division in the Justice Department that actually took seriously civil rights and imposed consent decrees on places like Ferguson, and change sentencing guidelines so that we didn't max out on sentencing for all non violent drug offenses, but change the incentives so that prosecutors were judged not by how long of a sentence you got, but did you get a proportional sentence? Was it a

fair sentence? Those kinds of changes that we made, that's why I say, there's a reason why the federal prison population dropped, by the way, at the same time the crime also dropped, right, So we were able to show that you can have a smart strategy in terms of reducing crime without expanding incarceration. But the truth of the matter is shell them in. At the end of the day, there is no way in eight years to make up

for two hundred years. Absolutely, And the question is constantly, how are you going to you know, the way I've been describing it, because because it's very much how I understand the presidency. Now, You're like a relay runner. You know you're getting the baton from somebody else, and all you can do is run your stage of the race, and then you pass it on the next person. And on either side, both who you got to hit from and who you're passing it too, they may not have

the same priorities that you do. You know, you're you know that you're not going to get everything done that you need to get done. But what you got to do is do your best to get as much done

as possible, and I think that's what we did. Would you say that your intention with this book was to explain to people also how difficult it was for you to get things passed and for people to see what you did do, because, like you said in the book, a lot of times, it's not your policies and what you do, it's more what you say and the feeling that people have, and that's what they pay attention to. So absolutely, look, let's take something like, you know, the

Recovery Act. So I walk in the day I walk in, we're losing eight hundred thousand jobs a month. The economy is actually contracting faster than it did during the Great Depression. And six months later the economy was grown again and we had kind of stopped the free fall. But if you're somebody who had lost your job at that point or lost your house, you're not feeling good. And we couldn't go around saying look what a patting ourselves on the back, saying look at what a great job we did,

because people are still hurting out there. I hope if somebody reads this they come to recognize if we want to bring about systemic change, there are a whole bunch of different pressure points that we have to apply. It's not just the presidency. So I write extensively about the fact that I have a lot of power as president. I'm the most powerful person as president, but I still

need a Congress. I still need to make sure that we have a majority in the House of Representatives, because if I don't, I can't get any a single law passed if I want to change something on criminal justice reform, it turns out that the federal government isn't actually in charge of most criminal in the law. Most criminal laws made at the state level and determined by state prosecutors, most police departments, the federal government has nothing to do with.

That's determined by the mayor in that city. Whether they're prosecuted when they do something wrong, that's up to the state's attorney or disc attorney in that area. So when we think about politics, it is a mistake for us to say, Okay, once i'm I voted for president, I'm done, and I hope people don't repeat that mistake with Biden and Kamala Harris. Right now, we've got two seats in

Georgia coming up. If the Republicans win those two seats, then Joe Biden and Kamala Harrist will not be able to get any law passed that Mitch McConnell and the Republicans aren't willing to go along with Well, you got to do a better job of letting people know, Hey, I wanted to do a lot more for people, especially black people, but I couldn't because Mitch McConnell was blocking me every chance you got. Well, that's why I wrote the book. That's why whatever everybody gonna read, that's all

I'm saying. Well, you know, all these interviews I hear some people listen to you about Georgia where Warnock, I see they're giving him issues about his alliance with Jeremiah Rights, the same kind of stuff. Did you tell him he should step back and denounce him? At this point? We look, first of all, it is a losing game at this stage to just go chasing crazy commentary. H There's some things you have to answer aggressively, but you can't obsess

over it. Warnock is doing a great job. If I'm him, I'm going to be emphasizing what am I positively going to do on behalf of the people of Georgia that that as opposed to just trying to play defense against a bunch of crazy stuff that's coming out there. But but listen, it's hard winning in Georgia, just like it's hard winning in Iowa. It's like it's hard in a lot of the country. And one thing I think that I hope the book also reminds us of Yeah, those of us who live in DC or New York or LA.

You know, sometimes we do not have a a good enough sense of how big this country is and how a lot of folks do not accept at all things that we who are living in urban metropolitan areas just take for granted. From South Carolina, I don't know, Yeah, I mean it's you know, you go, there are a big chance of the country, even in our own communities, right, I mean, so I deeply believe that people should be

treated equally under the law, regardless of sexual orientation. I was shocked you talked about that a book, but we all, you know, I mean, I think they're big chunks of our community where that's still controversial. People were surprised about a lot of Hispanic folks who voted for Trump, but there's a lot of evangelical Hispanics who you know, the fact that Trump says racist things about Mexicans or puts detainees,

you know, undocumented workers in cages. They think that's less important than the fact that, you know, he supports their views on you know, gay marriage or abortion. Right. It's hard to believe when you say this, But then you look at the way the government is ran. Right you talk about, for instance, you look at these big businesses and you look at their taxes, and they don't pay taxes at all. And then you look at somebody who is just getting by paying as much tax as possible.

And you look at, for instance, the Pandemic task Force that you created, and you see Trump coming office and he shuts that down. And then you think to yourself, damn, if that task force was still around, with so many people have been dead, been killed, would we be able to save lives? We would have saved some lives. Here's one simple statistic. Canada, right right next door. Their death rate is forty percent of what ours is per capita. I don't you know. So for every one hundred Americans

that have died, only forty Canadians have died. And that's just a matter of their government making better decisions. So the question, though, is is that you still had seventy billion people voting for a government that I would say objectively has failed miserably in handling this basic looking after the American people and keeping him safe. Why is that, Well, part of it is because, uh, you know, it turns out politics is not just about policy. It's not just

about numbers. It's about the stories that are that are

being told. And the story that they're hearing from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and you know, in some cases inside their churches is that Democrats don't believe in Christmas, and you know, you only care about minorities and black folks and are trying to take your stuff and trying to take your guns away, and right there's a whole story that's being told to them, and people end up feeling as if, you know, what, we are under attack that you know, what's always interesting to me is the

degree to which we've created, you've seen created in Republican politics, this sense that you know, white males are victims, like they're the ones who are like under attack, which obviously doesn't jibe with both history and data and economics. But that's a sincere belief, you know, that's been internalized. That's a story that's being told, and how you unwind that is going to be not something that is done right away.

It's going to take some time. But we heard some rumors in this book how different because you know, when I hear that, I'm like and it feels like we're catering to white racists all the time. So I wonder how different would the dem strategy be if we lived in a one man, one vote society with no electoral college. Oh, I think that would help. Let's take a simple example like the Senate. So Wyoming, which has about half a million people, has the same number of senators as California

with thirty three million people. Right, So what that means is is that the US Senate is hugely skewed towards some of these lower population, you know, more rural, much wider states than the big coastal states. And that's a that's a big difference in terms of getting stuff done. So so the bottom line is is that our democracy is imperfect. Changing that is going to take a lot of effort because you've got to get over the hump,

even even just to secure our voting rights. One of the things that you know is still at stake at Georgia is if we controlled the Senate, then it is at least theoretically possible to pass a voting rights bill that stops some of this voter suppression and intimidation that you're still seeing around the country that Republicans have been pretty blatant about just saying, look, we just we're trying to prevent them promoting, but getting to the electoral college,

getting to the way that the the US Senators skewed that would require us also potentially admitting Washington, DC, and Puerto Rico in as states so that you know, which has its own politics. Um, you know, it would mean having states change how they do their electoral counts. I think the Constitution is outdated. Three, they got to get rid of that language. The way that this diverse the country is those people weren't at the table when they

wrote the constitution. You're a constitutional lawyer, you got we gotta get Well, there is a way to change it. It's called amending the Constitution. The problem is that in order to do that, we have to have such an increase in awareness and active So there's a mechanism to amend the Constitution, but you just have to get everybody involved and focused in it. And this is part of the reason. You know, folks have been teasing me about how you know, man, that's a long book, and you know,

Michelle's was so much shorter. And you know, there were times where I was tempted to, you know, let me just leave out this explanation or that explanation, because folks, you know, they're not gonna necessarily want to read all that. But part of what I wanted to do was just say, man, this is the stuff that we've got to know if we really want to change stuff, Like you have to know about the filibuster in the Senate. Right, So this

is a rule that wasn't even in the Constitution. This is just a rule that the Senate adopted that says you have to have sixty votes to pass legislation, you have to have a supermajority. That even more empowers those little states, right because now they don't even need they don't even need fifty Senate votes, They just need a forty one to basically block anything from getting through the Senate.

That's what happened to me in my first two years was I was having to get to sixty votes on everything, which meant that the number of Senators that were basically representing twenty five percent of the country had a veto power over anything we want to try to get done. But most people don't know that. You know, if if you try to explain to the average you brother in the barbershop man, that filibuster, I just I just thought

it when people talked for a long time. Yeah. Well, but but that thing is which, by the way, had its roots. You know. The thing that it was most used for was to block civil rights legislation and and anti lynch legislation, and that thing is still operating. We have to know how that stuff works in order for us if we really want the kind of changes you're talking about, where taking away some of these barriers to everybody having their voice heard in the government. President Obama

has to go guys, so and listen. Congratulations. Eight hundred ninety thousand sold in the first day, which is breaking all kinds of records. So it just shows the power that you still have. You got a little name out here. First of all, I think it's because it was packaged with Michelle's book, so you know, and uh, but I appreciate you guys. You know, you talked about black folks and how they talked about or thought about my presidency.

I will say, even at our lowest point, the amount of loyalty and folks having our back, knowing you know that we were going through some challenges. Um, the prayer that we got, the you know, the blessings we received from our own um that that is as much as anything, what helped sustain us. It is something we never took for granted and we were always grateful. So so what one last question, what do democrats old black people specifically do you think, especially after what we just did in

this past election. Well, I look, I think that Democrats and Republicans and America old black folks the same thing that all people are, which is justice and fairness. The differences is that for black folks that justice has been deferred and denied for too long, or it's been half baked and in insufficient. We've never done a full reckoning of what was part of the essential history and building

of this country. And I think in concrete terms, you know, I don't want to overstate what Joe and Kamala are going to be able to accomplish in this congressional environment with that much resistance, because they're going to be in a position that was even that's probably even tougher than

the one that I came in. But what I can say is, I think at the very minimum, everything they put forward, from jobs programs to small business loans, to education to college debt issues, that they have to be mindful that the African American community put faith in them to hear them and to understand what ordinary folks are going through every day, working hard, trying to make it and that and that they shouldn't be making a decision without knowing, all right, this is going to have an

impact on some of those struggles to make make people and their families a little more secure, a little bit better. It's not going to make things perfect. But if if at the end of Joe Biden's presidency and Commons presidency, he too can say what I was able to say, which is people's lives are better. You know, at the end of the day, that's what you expect out of politicians.

They're a morally correct way to do what Trump did, which is as far as like you know, catering to his base, you know, doing what he felt was best for his folks. They are morally correct way to do that get more votes. I mean, the truth of the matter has actually Trump hasn't gotten a lot. He's torn some stuff down, he hasn't. There's no law that he's passed that is transformative in this country. He passed the tax cut to give away some more money to rich folks,

which probably has been doing that for years. But you can't name a piece of legislation that he's done that has actually changed the country, even for his own constituencies. So it's always easier to tear down than build up. Building up that requires votes, And that's why I do not. I will come on this show every time if I hear folks say voting doesn't matter. Yeah, voting will not. It's not like winning the lottery. You don't you don't

vote and then suddenly everything is great. Voting is more like you know, washing your car or iron in your clothes. It's part of the thing you do to make stuff work, and it's part of your responsibility and as part of all of our responsibility, just to make sure that we don't see chaos of the sort that we've just seen over the last four years. All right, guys, well, we appreciate you for joining us. President Barack Obama, thank you, sir,

Thank you so much. Thank you so much happy and relaxed. Now, you know, I feel pretty good. Happy Thanksgiving everybody all morning. Everybody is DJ Envy and Julia Yee, Charlomagne, the guy, we all the breakfast club. Good morning. Now. Usually I do donkey to day right here, but I'm not even supposed to be here today. The only reason I'm here because you know of what you just heard. You know, we had to go down to DC on Monday and

kick it with Foux Fox. Okay, President Barack Obama. So that conversation and as we have been saying, that book is seven hundred pages if I'm playing. But I read the whole book and it did explain. It did explain a lot, you know, just a lot of things that Barack Obama was trying to do when he was in the White House. You're trying to Turkey. You're trying to Turkey. I gotta reset you. It sound like you're trying to Turkey.

I shouldn't do that in the house. Body, you gotta recent deep in well even Brooklyn or in the back and dump it. Then. Yeah, but the book was over seven hundred pages. I started reading the book and then I mean it was so long. I had to buy the audio. Well, I have a technique, right. My technique is I read when I'm at home, when I'm in the car, listen to the audible. But I'm gonna tell you another technique that I do. I put the speed

to one point four and I'm at home. I did that too, and I read the book as well as listen to the person, uh recite the book right, And it was twenty nine hours long of him reciting the book sped up. I think it was like twenty seven. I don't remember. I absorbed me when I'm reading. Yo, you frying a turkey on the radio. Y'all know thanks Giving as tomorrow, But you have to reset the whole kay, the whole thing. Yeah, but yeah, it was so people ask,

you know, how was the room? How many Secret service people were there? Was Michelle Obama there? Well, it was in the one of the ballrooms of the hotel, the Kennedy ball Room. Shout to Crystal, who was the person Crystal and made sure everything came together with Stephanie to Stepan as well. It wasn't It wasn't too many people there. I think it may have been maybe two three people from his staff. I see, maybe two secret service people. Uh, and it was just him. He came in, happy, smiling,

sat down, He was very polite. He was joking smell cigarettes, not making that I'm making all of that didn't But if you read the book, you know he was one point he was smoking ten cigarettes today. Yeah, until he got on the niggotine gumbo. Yeah, go by the book. But even even I know behind the scenes when he was leaving. I asked him because in the book, when you read the book, I'll tell you a little bit. They here saying that Republicans were making so many rumors

up about him. They said that one he wasn't born here in the US. Know that. Another one that he was a drug deal it's a good one. And the last one is that he was a gay male prostitute. And you couldn't wait there. And he asked behind the scenes, which says a lot. But what does it say that exactly if he was over we haven't even we have a clipp of it. When I when I did ask, but what then if he said, damn, it's not true, and he was so disappointed. I didn't say he had

a handful of money. He was your rules right upstairs, right, But he was a good sport. He was laughing. He was like, sho, I did it was funny, said Helen, finding for they at all. But you know, he was a good guy. It was he didn't take anything personal. And hopefully we'll get to speak with him again and maybe interview him again. Oh, it's a part two of

the book coming up. Yeah, you know, because it's a promised land only covers the first four years, correct, So I'm not gonna tell you how it ends, but you know it only covers the first four years, right, And we want to take your phone calls. I mean, you heard what forty five minutes I don't long a thane forty eight minutes of President Barack Obama with the Breakfast Club. What are your thoughts? Eight hundred five one? We sure have. We've come a long way, slot to everybody else with us.

In the beginning, when I was on this radio talking about sucking far to other people's butts, vaginas, thank God for growth and evolutions, sniffing people's chairs, Yeah, we were pretty bad. Yeah, but we changed, all right, No, we grew. It's a difference. Okay, see what I'm saying? What what? What's on your mind? That's on your mind. I would putting up the phone up all you want to open this morning. We just said we grew up. We just

said we did, and you're going back. We did eight hundred five eight five one five one is the Breakfast Cloud Morning, the Breakfast Club. It's topic time on the phone called eight hundred five eight five one oh five. Want to join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Talk about it morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. Now if you're just joining us, please joining us. Forty eight minute

interview we did with President back Obama. Now listen. It's very important to note. And on December sixth, it to be ten years of the Breakfast Club. Next Sunday, next Sunday. We're never here during the week of this White Man's holiday, which is Thanksgiving, We're never here. We haven't been here in ten years. We only came in today because we had this conversation with President Barack Obama on Monday that

we aired this morning. Yep, what's your thoughts? Shout out to my mama, My mama is the first time my mama don't usually text me this early in the morning unless there's a problem or situation. My Mama said, I just listened to the interview and I'm very proud of you. It was great. My aunt v texting me this morning as well, so thank you. She hid the question that you asked him about being a gaymeel prostitute. What you might not have heard that part because that part. But

let's not remind Let's go to the phonelines. Hello, who's this this? De Sean Sulk y'all, what's up? The show was going on? What's happening? King? But what did you think of the interview? Bro? So? I thought it was great, I really did. I learned a lot of things that I didn't even learn in high school. And I'm definitely about to go grab the book because it's all about education. You know, they're not teaching the things that he's saying, and then the things that he's written in the book,

they're not teaching us. So that's the only way that anybody is ever gonna learn any of this stuff self education, and they're learning from someone who've been through these things and going through the things and stuff like that. I agree, Thank you, brother. Hello, who's this This? Is TSA, what's going on? Djay Vy, what's up? T shat, good morning, Happy happy things given happy white Man's holiday T shirt him. We're trying to get you back. So what did you think?

What were your thoughts on an interview? I think at first, I want to like, you know, President Obama for taking the time out forty eight minutes. You quite some time for a man, you know, if his stature and they just kind of like educating people and Sharlo Man, you know, I appreciate you for asking serious questions. You know, sometimes you get like a little flex sometimes, but I think you kind of like put the gas to them a little bit and forced to, you know, answer questions that

the black people wanted to hear. I think it's unfortunate that black people sometimes we don't really educate ourselves. We just go with what it said and we follow it and then we spread it and a lot of times it takes. But you know, I think that Obama could only do so much, like you said, and I think that what he did do was just enough, and we need to also give him, you know, praise. I appreciate him shouting out, you know, God and saying, you know,

his prayers, just what really got him through. You know, I really really appreciate President Obama, appreciate both of you guys. Have a safe holidays and you know, just love on your family more. Thank you. So we appreciate you so much. To Shi, thank you. Hello. Who's this? Rico? Rico? Rico? Woke up? Rilla? Rico Gorilla? Oh woke up Rella? Hashtag it's me again. I was onna want y'all last week. Okay, well, what do you think about the Barack Obama interview? Weren't memorable? Rico? Yeah,

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Charlotte man be quietma hearing him. Um, I just want to say, real quick, my dad met Barack when he was running for senator and he asked for He asked my dad for a newport. Anyway, I'm talking about so you got so. I just wanted to say, I listen to y'all every day, man, y'all really really upgrading every day, y'all getting better. When I heard him on the radio and I turned my car on, I was just like, damn, I can't move. I was like, you know, I didn't get out of the car. I

sat there the whole time to listen to it. I don't know. Man, you guys are doing great. Thank you, brother. I can't wait to hear. Yeah. I can't wait for y'all edited and put it on YouTube so I can share it. Oh, we're not adding it right now, that's all you mean? Like the clip? Yeah, we post clips on social media. No, grandpa eighty two years old and they listened to you guys. Appreciate that. Y man, I'm gonna get your grandaddy from blue tooth for Christmas. Man. Yeah,

follow me. Uh, it's old understory five bro bro brot the man shot out. Click, y'all a brother, love you back. Let him give his let me so Patty. Let the man shout out of people. I'm not Patty. Eight hundred five eight five one on five one. We just played our interview with President Barack Obama forty eight minutes long. What were your thoughts? Call us up. It's the Breakfast Club, come morning. Call me and your opinions to the breakfast

club topic. Come on. Eight hundred five eight five one five one wanted everybody iss d j Envy Angela, yee all. I mean the guy we are the Breakfast Club now if he just joined us, we're talking about our interview with President Barack Obama. It just aired forty eight minutes. Yeah, man, I mean we took we took time out of our busy schedules, you know, to sit down with a fan. You know what I mean, to sit down with a man who's a fan of the breakfast Club. You know

what I'm saying. This is listen, this is a giving season, right, we gotta do some sheriff of y'allt stopped for Hello, who's this all? This air from Gjersey City? What's up? What's up? Interview with President Barack Obama? Brou Look, I'm coming back from Walmart. Right, I'm parking the car. I turned on the radio real quick. It's it's Obama. I'm like what and you know when the fire play when I'm like, all right, yo. I loved it, man, I

loved it. Bro. It was so educational. I think we need more of that, Like the part on the Senate, like you know, you don't like in us where I live at in Jersey City, to turnout is always so big during the presidential election and then nobody comes out and vote. No other talk. So it was so important. And then Angela Anglo you was so sweet when you was when you interjected with the violence against women in the world place where you know the professional environment, that

was so sweet. Obama was like, um, the guys, it was pretty much all right under my radar. And then when I stepped away, you got the macheesing my attitude. We have dice so much. I just appreciated that interview. Bro I really did it. Thank you King, Thank you, brother peace Broe. Hello, who's this? Iwer room ending? I us room end? What's happening? Good morning? Good one? I love you, guys, good morning, we love you. Was happening? Hey, Uncle Charlotte. I got seven uncles, and you are by

far my best uncle, my favorite. I appreciate that, Thank you very much. Hey, so about about Obama. So I'm a black woman of human resources. Right, so when I'm at work, I gotta turn it down. My family knows when I'm at work, they make me turn it off. Right, So I got my my word voice, and then I got I'm at work on my eas at home. I'm

isshaw like. I thoroughly enjoyed the interview. Y'all. Y'all are the most dangerous breast of something more in the show, we get it, but I wanted a little bit more Berry. I know he's got a legacy to uphold. I get that, but I kind of wanted a little bit more Berry, more human side I did. I felt like he stuck with the Obama he you know, he was still professional, he did everything right. We will always lost him, but I just wanted a little bit more. I wanted to

know him a little bit more personally. I'm gonna be honest with you. I think that's who he is, like even if you read his book. Don't get me wrong, Like he smokes or he used to smoke. He drinks, you know, he curses, But I think for the most part, that's who he is. He's like he's that kind of person, like he shows up in the world in that way, you know, always get thing to say, the right things, moving the right way. I mean, come on, he's a black man high road. Yeah, he's a black man who

didn't have no scandal. Think about that. Right. Well, I'm getting his book. I haven't gotten it, but I'm with you, guys. I think now I'm getting an audio. Yes, thank you so much, mamma, thank you. I have a good day, all right. Well, the full interview you can check out on the Breakfast Club YouTube. Right right now, We'll be playing clips on our personal social media, so you can

definitely check those out, but definitely check out the full interview. Man, I think that's a great way to in the year. You actually, I mean listen, honestly, I got a lot of vacation days. I don't have to come back after this week. You know what I'm saying. I'm just saying. I'm just shaying. But no, that was feeling froggy jumped. Let's do it. Listen. All jokes aside. It was a

great conversation. I really enjoyed sitting sitting down with the forty fourth president of the United States of America, President Barack Obama, and I just feel like that was a culmination of everything that we've been doing in the past couple of years as far as like having these conversations with correct these politicians. You know what I'm saying, I think black political culture is some then that I want to I want to continue to push even when it's

not an election cycle. You know, everybody gets excited when it's you know, the presidential election, but what about the mid terms, what about local elections? I just think that's something we have to add to our repertoire. Absolutely, And another thing we keep on on saying is also making sure that you know that just because you voted, it's not over. After that, you still have work to do and you have to hold politicians accountable. It's not that

you just expect them to hand you things. You have to be part of that process. But absolutely, Well, y'all want to do rumors when we come back. Were you'all ready to get about what you want to do now? I'm whatever. We can leave right now if you want listen. I think we should talk about Dave Chappelle and his Unforgiven that he just put up. I think we need to discuss that too. Is along with this after this interview a we'll do that when we come back. Leave

right after that, right after the mix. Sorry, so don't move. It's a breakfast Clocal morning, a breakfast club. It's about is the rumor report Angela Yee on the breakfast club? All right, Well, Dave Chappelle posted another I don't know if you would call it a stand up, but it's called Unforgiven and it's about twenty minutes long, and he talks about the Chappelle show being on Netflix, but he wasn't getting any money from it, you know, he said

that previously. Well, here's what he had to say. I like working for Netflix because when all those bad things happened to me, that company didn't even exist. And when I found out they were streaming Chappelle's show, I was furious. So you know what I did. I called them and I told them that this makes me feel bad. And do you want to know what they did? They agreed that they would take it off their platform just so

I could feel better. That's why I put Well, Netflix was smart to do that because they don't want to ruin any future business with Dave Chappelle. Absolutely, so that was a smart move, very smart move. Yeah, they're in business with him now, so I was. And it's interesting how he said that he approached them about it and how that happened, and he wants to make sure other

people aren't watching it. You know, it's a it's a weird thing because you want people to watch the show and appreciate it, but not when you're not getting money from it. Well, you know, he asked the question and unforgiving that I thought was a very fair question. He said, you know, what they're doing is legal because he did sign the contract. What is it right? That's that's that's that's a great question. All right, here's what he had to say about the boycott. I called my agent, I said,

is there anything I can do about this show? And he said, no, he wants something done, right. I guess you got to do it yourself. So I'm not going to the agents, coming to my real boss. I'm coming to you. I'm begging you, if you ever liked me, if you ever think there was anything worthwhile about me, I'm begging you, please don't watch that show. I'm not asking the boycott any network, boycott me, boycott Chapelle's show. Do not watch it, and let's stay paying me. And

you know what, use It's interesting. It does play on other things besides Netflix. You know, it's on HBO Max and they are still streaming the show right now, and it's been on Comedy Central. It's been playing, so you know. Another thing he said that stood out to me is when he compared it to a three card Molly, and he said, you know, he realized he couldn't win at three card Molly because all of the people he thought was just innocent. Bystanders were all in on it. And

three Card mon that was three card Molly. I don't know he's taking trugs whatever whatever they did rob people in New York. But that's something very important to look out for. You got to make sure that your lawyer, your agents, your management, you got to make sure they all aren't ko who twit each other? Correct? You know what I mean? Yep? All right? And in good news, it's like Jeremiah has been taken off of a ventilator and he's starting to recover. So that's a positive thing.

That's great. Yes, So let's hope that everything with that turns out okay. And now let's talk about hit maker ak a young burg. Now, he was on Drink Champs and he had some things to say about Notoria from Power and from three LW and a past relationship that he says that they had that she said has never happened. Well, when he was on lip Service, here's what he had to say to apologize to NATORI and myself I would say too, we didn't like that interview you just did.

I think you could tell a story, but you don't have to say who it is. After I did it, I literally hit norriy like yo, I don't want this out. I don't want to come out. Please edit it. I will pay for whatever will go on. I felt bad about the fact. You know what I'm saying after the fact, but I mean, you know it is my truth, like you know what I'm saying. But I didn't. I adn't want it to come out like that, and I knew they was gonna clip it up and make it like

a thing like that. My asks them out too, but they did it anymore. And I apologize once again to her. I wish it never came out, and I'm sorry about it for real. He said he asked Nora to take that out, right, Yeah, he did say that, he asked Nora to take it out. And actually Nori said he wants to talk about that too, because I guess he has his own side. After this interview came out, everybody hit me up. We should call LORI. Yeah, he asked for that to happen, So he did apologize to Natory,

but it should have never happened. And I said, as I said before, are in the breakfast club. We didn't play the actual clip because it is disappointing to hear that. So there's Notori except his apology. I don't know if he's directly apologized to her, but I think she thought it was whack and she said that she has never slept with him. Oh so he lied, that's what she's saying. Yes, you said you don't want to play the clip because it was because why, I just thought it was extremely offensive.

You should call Lorian. All right, Well, that is your room of report. I'm Angela Yee. All right, thank you, miss Yee. All right, now when we come back. We got the People's Choice mix. Get your request in eight hundred and five A five one oh five one. Y'all want to call LORI. We got time. We called Nori. After the mix, we call Nori. Try to get Norion. Save noriences. So don't move. It's to breakfast club. Good morning,

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you to Crystal. Thank you Crystal Carson. Salute to Stephanie Young. You know my partners. Um Yeah, Conresident Barack Obama for President Barack Obama, and thank us man, you know what I'm saying. Thank the goddamn Breakfast Club. Thank dj Envy, Angelie and Charlomagne the God for putting themselves in a position in ten years to where the forty four president of the United States of America felt like this is the place he needed to come correct to talk about

a promised land. Okay, you need to give ourselves from credit as well. But you know, thank you to Crystal Carson and Stephanie Young for connecting those dots and yes, making it happen. Thank you the President of Barack Obama. Yeah, he was. He was like two three minutes late. We almost decided not to do the interview because he was running a little late. I was happy. I was happy he was on CP time because he's black. Oh felt good. Now.

His schedule was jam packed though. He was doing a lot of different things, so I know stuff went over. We went over, Yeah, we definitely went over. So it was it was just a great interview. So shout to again his whole team and the president, President of Barack Oba. A great way to um, you know, celebrate ten years. It'll be ten years on December six with this old Breakfast Club. Yep. You know what I'm saying. We've grown

and we've evolved a lot. You know, from our very first guests being Ray J to today and if you're in President of Barack Obama, life being good. Isn't God good? God, it's so great. But you got to be open to growth and evolution. Or you know what I'm saying. People limit themself because they boxed themselves. And you know, you can't be afraid to grow, you can't be afraid of evall. Yep, you're right, you're right, they're all right. Well when we

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