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I'm telling what you doing. Hol of you. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? What's up? The via courting it from Atlanta? What's up? Brother? Charla face King? Get it off your chest, man, I want to get it off my chest. Man. I'm picking the Facebook fride, the

Instagram idiot, the Twitter tub man. You can't post your opinion without somebody trying to count for you or the negative. Like I'm just over it. Um. People be asking me, they were like, why won't you get off? But it's like it's addicting man, I'm a nerd, so it's kind of hard to like come home from a stressful day of work and like find something to do. So you you scroll through social media, but all it is a negativity, man,

Uncle Charlotte, send me fook doctor, I will. I'm gonna send you the unapologetic guy in the black mental health out doctor to walk up. I send you a need a copack shallow water that I send you to Mike A Mallory state of emergency, and I disagree with you. No, I'm serious. I'm gonna send it to you. I'm gonna put you on hold, and I was gonna tell you that read a book, man, Like we gotta stop being in abusive relationships with our smart phones, because that's what

it is. We're literally in abusive relationships with our smart phones and social media. We don't need it. Fact fact fact. If I can find a way to like get off, like I would be off forever, like forever. Just find something else that you're interested in, like Charlemagne said, maybe it's a book, maybe it's you know, maybe it's on your phone. But googling things that interest you, you know what I mean, whether you're into you know, real estate,

or you into cars, or you're into clue. Just get into something that you're into, you know what I mean. And it looked those things up like a lot of times around on a plane or I'm in the airport, I just look up houses and different markets because I just like, I like looking at homes, you know, just just whether I could afford them or not. That's just something that interests me. And it is a lot of productive stuff you can watch online. You just gotta curate.

You gotta curate what you're feeding into your mind, that's all. But hold on, I got your books right here in my hand. Look I see him. Hello, who's this breakfast? Y'all? How y'all doing? Hey bro, hey man. I just wanted to give a big thanks to you every man. I'm a new listener. I've probably been listening for about a year. My girl Putty on Game with you guys. I used to think she was a clown listening to y'all glow with the clown back in the day. Uh, but I

never actually listened to you guys the show. And someone I actually listened, I was like, you know what these people are that they're good people? You guys, You gotta know what you're doing. And I really appreciate what you got to do the eavy. Um. I heard you talked about the credit due of the wild back And at the same time, I was trying to get everything since man and I finally hit a month and he got my stuff straight, myself a new truck. Yeah, he got

my credit right, man, they got my credit right. I'm still working all the still trying to get up to that those eighth man, but they got me into the seven am, the five, and they got me all the way up. Man. I just bought myself a new truck. I'm a truck driver out here, worked for FedEx and uh, man, I'm blessed, highly favored. How take uh eight to nine months? Man. I had some serious stuff from there that they got

off pretty quick for me. Okay. I was really deprised how fast they did it, you know, because it was kind of the slow promises at the beginning. But you know, as I kept checking and I you know, did the programs they were talking about it, it was just yeah, it just shot up instantly. Yeah, and let people know, man, you know, it's never too late to do what you need to do. Man. I was a feeling. I'm thirty

three years old. I was getting curved from every job I tried to get, end up just grabbing getting my CDL, getting the Class A, and I'm loving life right now. All right, I think the credit due. I think he's gonna come up here this week, and I think what we're gonna do is we're gonna fix I think like maybe twenty thirty people's credit, just to just on the strength, just to help people out. I've been recommending him to everybody I know, man, because he worked wondering. You guys

worked wonder to thank you so much. Yeah. No, he helped me out so many times. And people don't like I've met him because he actually helped me fix my credit. I had something left up on my credit and he helped me and we just became good friends. Hello, who's this Jessica from Virginia? Hey, Jessica from VA? What part of the A? I'm in Arlington. Okay, get it off

your chess, Okay, get it off your chess. So I am actually blessed, but I'm a little sad because I listened to you guys every morning live on my way to work, and basically I told you guys, how I shot my shot of dramas you shot it down. I found a black king. Hey, congratulations, job moving to Seattle to be with my black king. Nice, mamma. Yes, so

I'm very excited. But I just wanted to tell you guys, thank you so so so much for everything with you, for the community and and the people that you guys bring on as far as like information and stuff like that. You guys are more appreciated than you thinking, you know, so I just wanted to say thank you. I appreciate you. You gotta listen to us on the app now, Yeah, I listen to iHeart. If I do, you missed it

in the morning, so I'm just gonna stick to iHeart. Okay. Well, thank you, mama, and you have a great trip and safe ma'am. Thank you, Charla Mane. Can I get a sign copy of Black Privilege? Please? Absolutely, that's easy. We put you on hold when we get your address. Hold, no, hang up, all right, get it off your chess eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need to vent, hit this up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up, wake y'all.

Ass your time to get it off your chest. Your man, I'm blessed. We want to hear from you on the breakfast Black, Hello, who's this? Destiny? Was an eye from the eighth for three eight forty three was happening, Destiny? Get it off your chest, Mama. I just wanted to call us say that I am blessing how he favored? Nope,

you blessed Black and Holly Favorite. You're right about that. Um. I just hit thirty this year, and I'm really starting to see what Mary Jake Blige and you know Javo we're talking about in that song Rainy Days, And even on the rainy days, I walk out the house with us knock on my face and I know that God's got there. You go, thank and Charlot sometimes man, Nope, we love you, but you didn't till sometimes off the chaparlo. So why would I listen to? Why? Why? Why would

I chill them? I'm gonna always be me and and you know how you say when you leave the house is gonna be those rainy days. One thing about me, I'm gonna always be me, the so called good, so called bad, so called ugly. Every day. Well, I'll definitely tune in the watching United fan. Hey, there you go. The God's Done is True from Comedy Central. But thank you, mom. You have a great weekend. Hello. Who's this this? Mo? Mo? What up? Getting off? Chu? Bro? Yeah? Hey, I just

want to shout out my queens h Instagram page. Real Quick is Avayance Creation a U d I A NT Creation. She's h Detroit based photographer the basic Detroit Man. I swear anything you need, you got it, Uh, Angela yee. I just want to ask for a favorite's possible. Okay we come. We're coming up on a year and she's a big fan, and I just wanted to know if you had any like available time being like dude, a photos shot with or something. You know what I'm saying,

Like this ever years from me to hub. You know what I'm saying, It is possible when I'm in Detroit. Yeah when he whenever you're in Detroit, if you have time, Okay, Yeah that I could use that too. That'd be nice. Yeah, so awesome. I just want to thank God. My grandma just came home from having cold. Wow. I mean that's the blessing. All right, brother, have a good weekend. Get it off your chest. I said he loved his girl. I love to see it absolutely eight hundred five eight five,

one oh five one, get it off your chest. It's the Breakfast Club. Go Morning, the Breakfast Club. Wait that up in the morning. Check out this breakfast club. We want morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. That's right, Posh Shasty not a new project got the day called Shafety season. This is your first project, right for so my first one album? What it is? This a mixtape? Is it's an album? Is

it's an ep a mixtape? Mixtape? Now? For people that don't know you from Memphis? Yo, salth Mivin and you signed with Gucci Walk Big Walk. How did that? How did that come about? Mine? U me in the bid my middle of the night. One day, he takes me on Instagram? Did you believe it? Did you think it was? It was? It was a lie. I couldn't believe it 'm that last year? So he just sent you a DM. Yeah, he takes me, said, what's up home? I couldn't believe. I grabbed my phone, get up, push something out of

the real takes him back. I say, what's chopping? He takes back right there in and there like he was owning. He was waiting on me to tip back. You're like, I'm talking with your mirrors home. Who are you doing this with? I put my clothes on shoot to shoot the pops out. Then my managers I waken to wake up A look I showed him. Couldn't believe he get the Swain right. Then another though, why I'm showing him? He takes back, He said, it did my number fade

time a fade timing right. Third, we was on fade time for like six hours. It was already like three in the morning. Though, he just said, look on face time before we continue that story. Whoever that woman was in the bed with you gonna be mad that you just referred to her as somebody somewhere. Now what you're

being for Memphis? Did Dolf or gott he reached out with since since they both from the same areas, or yeah, for sure, but you never wanted to sign with that or they just never offered a deal, or just wasn't the right situation, Like I ain't gonna lie, I ain't known wanted to sign a no better then Joe. My mentality you know in the city is like you gotta sign to either one of them. You gotta be paper out of sEMG. So before Walcome came out, I'm still

Chopper guind this is my lab. So I wanted to be like, why you can't be signed a Chopper game? Seeing your paper rout? Then Walk can't bone perfect sing? You know I got you. I always wonder how Gucci Man discovers talent, like what did he hit? What did he hero rs? It's a genius, he a genius. But I'm gonna tell you what a song he heard of the show Mine ain't Slim Mine Slim did it for him and that was the only song he heard. He was like, oh yeah, South, When did you finally meet

him in person? Did he did you? Did you fly to a land or did he come out to Memphish or we flew to Alan. It was like I got signed throing COVID so it ain't locked down and shut down and thin over over the phone. So yeah, did you did the deal over the phone? Didn't meet him in person? Just no, I didn't do the deal and over the phone, Like I was signed a week before I had to pop out like with it. No, I

had to hold it in. It's hard, it's a walk. Yeah, I still problem to like my mom was something, well, she gonna tell them hold SI. A lot of folks in our days want to stay indie. What made you say? You know what? Now, I'm gonna do the ten seventeen Atlantic thing right perfect since and they ain't ain't coming at me on the BS and and you know what I'm saying. So when they did, then I like, I ain't genuine what I really wanted to see me win it? Man?

When did you realize that it was taking off? When your popularity before you did the deal with w When did you realize it was taking off? With it? One day? You walking into malling, people be like, yo, I know who you are? Was it your mama heard the rector one time? But when did you realize, like yo, it was like out of her, out of her? Yeah, I ain't gonna laugh. My first song to see it start off for a verse. I did my first verse on it own breaking news with me and the game trouble Gun.

Then verse on ther went viral. They were like who it did? Dude? It was like I couldn't like step out the gate or none no more for Ryan pay All. This it was real then, but when I knew it took out when they hit the radios. So I got put on you from guard up because I was listening to the new title playlist and that got up so hard. I just went down this pool shicey rabbit hole and I'm just like, man, this dude is dope. And then it started ding on me. Oh he went Gucci, so

it then it started to make sense. You used to play ball with him, I know how, you know how? Yeah, I'm like, I don't want them. I want them to play the coach miss with but can't make the team that I got here used me for practice, getting the showing. They need an inscre man, but I ain't even on the team or nothing. Well, wasn't to the locker room because of behavior or something. Behavior, couldn't get no physicals, Yeah, but got the talent for show. That's how it was

when me. I used to want to play sports, but I couldn't. I was always suspended in all types of stupid. And I've seen when you opposed me though, like oh like big shout him. I don't like nobody The Breakfast Club if you missed the Breakfast Club, you don't coo from my world. It's dangerous. Check out this rewind. Yeah, it's the world most dangerous Morning to show The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne and God Angela, Ye dj Envy, and we got my man Pooh Shicety here Pooh Shitsky as a new

artist out of Memphis. He signed the ten seventeen Atlantic Records. He's got a project out right now called Shisty Season. And you got a question, do you still in Memphis or you decided to boot to Atlantic? Because I see Atlanta is everything. Atlanta is open, Atlanta is the music scene. You run in the audi, in the studio. Huh yeah for show. I'm in a move for show, but I would be whoever. I feel like I go to them too. You feel like memphisis is as united as it should

be at all. I know, man, Memphis are like for united. You can use Alouna for example, Memphis Now, I won't see nobody to win. I'm gonna pull you now something type of way. Try to tempt someone on, you, try to take something. It just Memphis. They hate too because of that. Why not just stay out the city for a while. They beat how they feel the or the folks. I ain't gonna do me like it's up to me now, like it's in my hand I can bring make it like alouna that there's how I feel I could be

the big brother stars on the pun. It's like if if if Memphis was united, y'all would easily be that next city from the South with all the talent coming from that talent too much time. So so what do you think it if the ogs didn't embrace the youngsters? What was it? I don't I don't get it. Be there like folks be having the feeling I don't want no about to pass them or something I don't incur, Like as long as you know what I'm saying, pay

your homage and do right, keep it. You know what I'm saying, keep a little chick like I don't to speak none of this sucker stuff. Now it's more dangerous to be a rapper or a screet the lad through year. Rappers ain't bad to year. I ain't gonna couple here. They've been going at the rapper. Is it because the money makes you a target? The fame was like the screets the rap Now then the folk internet. They're gonna

do the police jobs. So if it wasn't a rap, what you think you'd be into legal, I'll be put up. I won't even be here. So yeah, how proudly is your mom right now? They're seeing everything that you've been through. Man, she's my mom one. She's very proud. Big shout out of them all, dudes. I wish she could be. She loves you too, been watched you year. I know about you through my mom. I appreciate that ski mask talking

about bad you know? Also what you know better? You can't slide with that, but you see it, batter, it's a man we don't know, all right. I gotta get you run now. Also with um, what's the first thing you bought when you made money? And what's the first thing you bought your mom? No? I bought my mama cough first, what kind of car fandom? Infinity? Infinity? No, this is the first one. No, she's gonna do it big, but I had to give us a what's the first

thing you bought yourself? Your biggest purchase so far being truck man? You gotta buy churches, man, you got to Yeah, I got asa franchise your own churches that would be though, push shat on some churches because they need all the all churches needs a rebrand. They might need to reach out O see that in church and keep it. I've been saying churches come in on fold stuff and then churches tapping in big shots. You're gonna shoot the video

at the churches with my shirt off. Absolutely well, Po Shay. We appreciate you for joining, and we promised we were gonna bring a lot of new artists up in here, new artists that are moving the culture. And when this fifty year old man came in here with a ski mask on, pointing his finger guns at me, it was like,

it's tongue. It means yeah, because we I mean, listen, we've been doing this for a wild ten years and like we've seen a lot of like we saw the Megals early on, we saw a little baby early on. And I feel like you got that same thing. Absolutely, you know what I mean, appreciate that. I think Pu Shaty gonna be a star star. And you said, like when you felt that, you said, at all the top mean older than you know what I'm saying, Not for what, dude, not I suck. I appreciate that and tell you mom,

I said peace, We appreciate it. What's her name, Miss glad Miss Gladys, Miss Gladys. All right, oh well it's pool Shasty, not na pool. You know we ain't come up here, you know we don't. We've been at home, so we came up here for you now. Want you to know that, so you know it's it's serious. Maybe wishing the best of luck and hopefully we'll see you again up here. Well, all right, it's pool shicsty. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wait, wait up, wake up,

you're checking out the Breakfast Club? Hey, what up? Y'all? It's dj envy here. It's all fun in games. So someone screenshot your message say goodbye to morning after. Get with that chat. This new encrypted social platform can help you stay truly private, no screenshots, recordings, or leak messages. Get that chat for iPhone and Android at the app Store or find it at dat chat dot com. Forward slash envy. It's topic time called eight hundred and five eight five one oh five? Want to join it to

the discussion with the breakfast club? Talk about it? Morning, Everybody's stej envy, angela Yee Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Now if you just joined as Charlemagne came to work this morning a little um under the influence, Yeah, under the under the influence of country rap tunbs. Okay, I deserve to be in breakfast club court this morning. I feel stupid. I've been in here gang banging on the radio and I just feel like I'm too old

and still be influenced by music. And I promise you it literally was the New South Playlist on title listening to stuff like key Glock off the Porch and my Man Little Boss I Know It and you know, pooh shicety guard up. It really really, really really took me to a place that I absolutely enjoy. Yeah. So so we're asking if Charlemagne, are we all too old to be h influenced by music right now? I don't think so. Bro,

You know what I'm saying. I really don't. And I have no reason for saying that other than I just really enjoy it. Are we going through a middle life practice? I don't think so. Still. You know, like Charlomagne, you have a ski mask drinking drinking Starbucks, Like, what is that? It's called balance? Is that a boogie gangsterf like what it's called. Balance, think it's game. Bankers don't need caffeine. I don't know you need energy to do a drive by too. Okay, you think I have to put money

on people's head without uh, you know, a little lot tepe? Okay? Hello? Who's this? This is hey Virginia. You know you know your boy's up here with a ski mask on, drinking a latte. I love it with a pinky in the It's a little weird. We have to listen, we have to do I'm for three. I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, I'll be in my car sometimes. You know, I could be a bug, I could be a seeheart. But listen, Charlomagne, keep doing it. Thank you, baby, That's what I'm talking about.

Jackie Killed, Florida. Hello, who's this? This guy's crazy? Hey, John, what are you calling from Florida? You know what, I don't think it's a good thing when you got a bunch of Florida people of jo John Charlotta Mane has a ski mask on on right now, he's drinking a Lotte with his pinky in the finger. I don't know what he wants to do. With that pinky. I don't I don't know, but but you think his ass is too old fallers, man, sit your old ass down somewhere. Man.

How old are you, sir? I'm thirty three? Oh you're thirty three. Okay, you're still living out your old wild out days. You're still cheating on your girl? Did that? I did that when I was swing. I got arrested four times one year. Congratulations. What was the biggest charge? The biggest one was a home invasion. What music were you listening to when you did that home invasion for Florida? Man, I listened kind of stuff man, y'all, I don't even

know applies, Okay, you know, probably Kodak. Now that was that was a while ago. That was a while ago. All right, go that's the middle school that is. But you got your life together now, Yeah, definitely definitely that you got a family. Man, You're right that think, brother, thank you? You know what you got that when you say that once you once you see that, once you

add that you got a family. That's like when a game banging, say on God and them he gonna do something to you want Somebody tell you, sit y'all out there, you got a family. That's when you get back through reality. He right, Hello, rests Christian out of Fully, Hey, Christian out of Philly. Good morning Christian. Now Now, Charlotmagne is asked too old to be wilding out to this music. Now, I don't know that's what you're supposed to be doing. Listen.

It's balance of life. It's the yang and the yang, It's the drug deal and a professional because every morning I'm listening to King King Vod. I'm from Fully and I'm not from sixty third. I do that every morning and then not do my professional nine to five. And when I come home it's neck to Jason and Sulliman and all of that. So you need balance, a balance. I agree with you. Ratchetness and righteousness is the right exactly. I'm with you with music too. I'm with you because

because I did the same thing. I woke up this morning. I meditated, I had my beads in my hand, I was doing my mantras, and then I'm going to therapy at three o'clock. But when I was driving in the work, it was them country rap tunes. Bro Listen, We're moving weight, were moving away, my God, really work all up and down ninety five. We got our world one page and ways we are professionals with our parents, we have our pta. They love us, but we turned up. That's what you

gotta do with you. You sell Joe, you sell drugs in the morning hair for me. Oh that's right. She's representing for all the people out there who still want to do the bust of challenge. But that needs not what they used to be. But we outchair babies because I'm a mama and I'm not posting it. Hey, let's go hello, who's this yo? This kid is Amarcosol game game Bro? What's up? Bro? How old are you? Kid? Brokay bank that see y'all day. I'll bang that see

y'a all day. I don't even know what that means. What's that mean? That's that's Christ Christ with that. I thought the seeds for christy all day. So when you're banging the Christ, when you're throwing up that, that seat for rice. Hey, sou's gang. What do you listen to? I listened to I ain't gonna lie, young thug whole lie. I listen to Drake. I listen know, I ain't gonna lie. You know I told some uh I told some ya

Adams maybe and there I like the balance. I love the balance, King from young Thug to Orlanda Adams, I love the balance. Now you're you know you got to You're twenty nine. Charlemagne forty two. Charlotmaye be banging out this every morning. Yeah he can. He can have a balance, but he can bang right to bang left. That's right, the middle, right, right middle. Yo can tell his daughters, Yo, kid clean kitchen. That's right on this on the set, Oh my goodness, on the set. You better have that

kitchen clean. Hello? Who's this? Yes? Hi? Right? Listen this from the doub Bill in Ohio. Now, and Charlomagne too, only be gang gang in this morning. I have to second emotion, yes, but I have to add myself puts too. I'll be thinking I'm just ratchet. You talk about Luda Pete popping. Oh my god, I'm thirty three years out with two kids that I have, me going. I ain't never peep talking about life, but I can't work talking about Gucci and Jesus. I'll be talking about shoot somebody

when I'm mak thirteen years off. No, yes, you do have no moments. They do influencio. Now, listen, Jeez and Gucci, that was our era. We were still in our old wild out days when they was in their prime. These new these, these new Negroes different, these new Negroes to take you someplace even further. And Jez and Gucci then did don't telling you they didn't have you literally and don't you and don't act like you ain't never did

no people up because you said you got three kids. Okay, honey, I got to and I have, but I don't know how to do it on my hand stand. Clearly didn't know how to do something. That man whoever was then baby daddies you got to do influent. They're doing fluent. And I have my ratchet moments too, when I've been a bust for eight years. The them, them baby daddies, you got release their ancestors in you for a reason.

You know how to pepop something on something? Honey. Yes we're not on the handstand right, but on a back dad answer, Okay, all right, I'm telling you all right, Well, don't move. Happy Holidays. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlemagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club now Charlemagne. Yesterday got a chance to talk with Travis Scott. Yeah, this

happened on This happened, just happened on Wednesday. You know, I got a couple of calls from a few folks and they were like, you know, Travis Scott, you know, wants to sit and have a conversation with you, you you know, to discuss the tragedy that happened on November fifth at after World in Houston, Texas. And that's what we did. And also how he wants to, you know, help make sure this this never happens again. All right, Well we're gonna get into that next and we're gonna take your

calls after this too. So let's listen as a community, and you got questions, whatever you feel like you want to talk about after this interview, you can call us up. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one, Ladies and gentlemen. Travis Scott, Travis Scott, what's up? Brother? What to do? How you feeling? Uh? You know I've been on about like a different type of like emotions, you know,

emotional roller coaster. I mean, um, it gets so hard because I always felt like connected with my fans, and you know, I went through something, you know, and I feel like fans went through something and people's parents would do something, and you know it really, you know, it hurts. It hurts the community her to a city and it's just been a lot of thoughts, you know, a lot of feelings, a lot of grieving and just you know, trying to get you wrapped my head around it. You know.

I really just really wanted to be there and just you know, wish you can just kind of like hold everyone, you know, um, kind of just healed them, talk to them. I have conversations, you know. It just it just you know, it really just hurts me. What's your what's your intention with this conversation, Like like what do you hope to get out of this or what do you hope to

get out I don't personally have an intention. I just feel like something happened and I feel like it's just I needed just a way to kind of like communicate, you know, the families are grieving, you know, as fans that experienced something, as fans that came to a show, you know, and I feel like I just have like a I've always been that person to always see things through the people that shared experiences with me, and you know, it's just things happening, you know, I just kind of

you know, it's been such a such a time and I've just been trying to just really figure things out. You know, I'm sure you experiencing remorse, But was there any hesitation to have this conversation because of the litigation you may be facing. Well, I mean, yeah, of course you got people. It's just like, oh, like you know, but it's not about that, you know, your artists, you whoever people think you are. About the end of the day,

You're a human being. You know, you have emotions, Um you want to communicate them emotions, you know, and trying to find the best way to communicate. How have you been coping with the aftermath of everything? Just just just emotionally, just you as a human. I've been just in a room for a while, you know, a lot of thoughts and luckily, you know, you have people around that you

kind of outside ideas. But it just been you know, I've been doing this for such a long time, and you know, you nothing like this ever happened, you know, so it just kind of like you just kind of figuring out and at the end of the day, like these fans of your family, so you just feel like you lost lost something and you just like you go, you do these shows honestly to you know, for people to have the best experience, you know, and just to

think to something like this happened. You just trying to figure out you know, you know, just wrap everything around.

And so even just for the first couple a couple of weeks, you know, it was just me sitting down, but I had to really channel these emotions to just remember, like, you know, if no one's gonna be a voice to these people, I gotta like kind of step up and kind of like be a voice to just figure out that you know, this isn't happened in the future, to show is period, you know what I'm saying, or figure out the bottom solution of what's going on, and just

trying to ensure as people, you know, safety and what they're doing. You know, you said you was in the room, but then people saw you at the golf course, but with Michael Jordan, Mark Wahlberg, what what was that? Um? It was just Thanksgiving, um, you know, and they were there. You know, it's just good people to have around in the community, and you know that was just more like a personal time, just trying to get around. I think like some fan came and asked for a photo. But yeah,

let's talk about that night. Man. When when did when did you find out things got as bad as they did? That? That's the question everybody wants to go. Yeah, it wasn't really until like minutes until like the press conference, until I figured out exactly what happened. You know, um, even after the show, you know, you're just kind of hearing hearing things, but you don't know. I didn't know the exact details until you know, minutes before the press conference.

And even at that moment you kind of just like wait, you know what, Like you know, you just went through something and it's just like wait what you know, So you didn't know people that actually passed away until minutes before, you know, which is you know, and at the thing, it's like, you know, people pass out, you know people, you know, things happen at concerts, but something like that, it's just like, yeah, people said they are collectively, they

collectively heard folks scream and help every time you stop the song to get your attention, did you did you hear any of those screams, nah man. And you know it's so crazy because I'm not I'm not artist too, Like, you know, anytime you can hear something like that, you

want to stop the show. You want to make sure, you know, fans get the property and they need you know, And anytime I could see anything like that, I did, you know, you know, I stopped like a couple of times to just make sure everybody was okay, and I just really just go off the you know, the fans energy as a collective, you know, call a response. And I just didn't. I just didn't hear that. You know, I got music, I got my inears, but I just didn't.

I just didn't hear that. You know, break that down a little more like Nope, nobody knows what it's like being on stage except for other artists who speak to us from that perspective of what you can see in here. It was like fifty thousand people. Yeah, I mean you got like a view, you know, feel like fifty thousand people.

But it's like a see, you got lights, you got sound, you got pyro, you got you know, you got your inears, got your sound, got your mic, you know, got the music, You got bands, all type of you know, stuff going on, so it's it's hard to tell excitement from from from dangerous or to speak of course, everything kind of just sounds the same. And at the end of the day, you just hear music, you know, and when you do,

you just hear amongks of things. You know, but you just when you're in the show, you just into the show. And anytime you can feel anything closely, you know, you try to like definitely get to that. So so as an artist, how much can you actually, I guess help in that position. You can only help what you can see, you know what I mean. And then what you know, whatever you's told, you know what I'm saying. Whenever it somebody tell you to stop, you just stop. But just

wasn't it was It wasn't that night, huh. You know, raging. Raging has been a part of the culture, you know, of your shows. You know you didn't on this night, but in the past you've encouraged I guess the kind of energy that could have led to something like this happening.

Do you think that contributed to the energy of this night? Yeah, nah, I think you know, It's something I've been working on you know, for a while, um of just creating these experiences and trying to show like the experiences happening in a safe environment. You know, us as artists, we trust you know, professionals to make sure that you know, things happen to people leave you safely, you know what I'm saying. Um.

And it's not just like a regular show. You know, it felt like to me um as far as like you know, the energy people, it didn't feel like it was like you know, people didn't I don't people didn't show up there to just be harmful people just I think showed up to have a good time. And then you know, something unfortunate happened, and I think we really just got to figure out, you know what that was. You know, does raging make it harder to identify when

something is going wrong in the crowd? Well, I think raging is just a you know, they have a textbook, you know definition. But you know, in the concerts and we've grown it to be just experience of having fun. It's not about just oh, harm, It's not about that. It's about just letting go and having fun. You know, help others, no, love each other. It's not about just you know, harm. That's not what it's all about. The show isn't just rambunctious for hour. You know, that's not

what it is. Oh, trust me, I grew up on crunk, so you know I understand. You know, you just don't you don't want it to get two out of hand. Yeah, but you know the code. You know, the energy is high, you know, and you know, and that's why you want to just make sure that, you know, people are surrounded to make sure that people are just having the best experience.

You know what I'm saying. You know, I can't say the energy is high, but you know you want to make sure that people are there for people to have like the best experience in league. Yeah, you want people to have a good time. You want people to get hurt at all. Yeah. Yeah, and God forbid passed away.

And you know it's typical for you to stop a show to make sure fans in the crowd get to help, you know, they need They even footage of that night of you doing that during the set where you unable to sense like a difference in urgency this time around, I mean yeah, because you know, you stop the show, but you know, you know, if someone's gonna happen. If it's something detrimental, somebody's gonna let you know, you know, or you know, the show just stop them. And you

know that just wasn't the case. You know, I just kind of stop the show. You know, you just asked. You have a call of re sponsor the fans. Um you try to, you know, generally get a response, but you know, if you don't get like a hard stop, you know, it's just you can't. You just don't. You just go off of what's going on, you know, which makes it so like so crazy because like, you know, if I feel like, if you know, anyone wouldn't know and it would have just been like it wouldn't have

gotten far, you know. All Right, we got more with Travis Scott and Charlemagne there one on one conversation, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlemagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Now if he's just joining us, we're playing a one on one interview with Travis Scott and Charlemagne. Travis Scott and Charlemagne spoke yesterday, so we're getting that back on this morning. Yeah, we chopped it up yesterday,

you know. Um and you know, as you can see if you've been listening, he's being very open about the situation. But at Afterworld in Houston, Texas, the tragedy that happened on November fifth at after World and US in Texas. But you can you can see his brain, you know, going on just how to make sure this never happens again. But you know, keep listening, all right, and here's part two.

It's the Breakfast Club, Go Morning. What headspace were you when you posted that that initial that initial response video. I mean it was I think it has to been the night of you know, Um, so I was just in a headspace of just trying to get a communication out to my fans, you know, and I had literally no information, you know, so I was just trying to figure it out and just communicate to them. You know. Yeah. I was just reacting, just literally just to get something

to the fans. You know, there's people that showed up. Do you regret that initial video? Do you regret reacting in that way or not, like not having all the information before you said something. I mean yeah, because you know, you just don't know what's going on. But at the end of the day. I don't, you know, I just wanted to get something out, you know, how my messages came out, I can't you know, I can only go

off for that, you know what I know. But my Truman titches of it, you know, was really just trying to get a message across. And you know, I really wanted to just touch the fans, touching the families. You know that we here, we're grieving and we would get through this, you know, through this process. So what did you know in that first video? I mean at that time, I think we just knew that you know, people passed, you know, Um, we didn't know how you know that

it was you know the news. You know, I think police came out and said something. Um, you know, you're just going off of what you're seeing in the in the in the news. You know, you don't really know nothing. And then as it did go on, you started collecting a little bit more information. They said there was they would like chaos and trampling being reported since the early afternoon, like like hours before the show even started. Were you

informed of any of that ahead of time? Well? No, like um and um, you know the police he came he came in um to my trailer and you know he congratulated me on you know, the event and you know, having something like this in Houston. You let me know that this it was, you know, mishap at the merged booth earlier. You know they shut it down with they opened it back up. They she even got it under control. You know, he was gonna step out and just let us know if we need anything, you know, have a

good show. That was it. You know a lot of the criticism, you know from the tragedy they say is and the poor planning and understaffing of the end of

the event. As an artist, that you have any involvement in any of that, well, I mean we just as an artist, you just do the creative and for this to be my festival, you know, I got you know, bring artists you know, creatively produce it and you know we're just trusting you know, the professionals to kind of just make sure that you know, people you know taking

care of and you know, leaving safely. You know, I just can control what I can on the stage and then you know you have the professionals control what they can in the crowd. You know, it's just hard because as an artist, you know, you want to have like the best shows and you want to have the best experiences, and you you know, you link with professionals to handle that side of it, you know, and you know you

want to know what's going on. I think that's what we got to figure out, you know, and figure out what happened there, how that happened. You know, you spoke on the Houston Police chief. His name is that Troy Finna. He came to you and he said he voiced concerns over the crowd energy. So what did you on your team like do with that information. Well, I think that's what the media. Um, I think that's what the media said.

But I think I think it read too more so that he wanted us to He knew that our crowd was, you know, the type of crowd that comes it comes to a heavy crowd. So to communicate with him if we were doing anything outside of the week's itinerary, you know, um that week we were doing like a lot of charity stuff prior to the festival, so you know the security at most of the events. But you know, he was just letting us, you know, I guess in that statement, he was just saying, if we do anything outside of

what we had on our itinerary, let him know. But you know, we didn't even get to that point. You know, it's crazy, just you know, being a kicking it with you for a little bit, Like I can see that you know, this is Wayne real heavy on it. Yeah. So, so how much do you feel a sense of responsibility for what happened at night? Well, you know, fans come to have a come to the show and have a good experience, you know, Um, and I have a responsibility

to figure out what happened here. I have a responsibility to figure out the solution. And hopefully this takes the first step into you know, us as artists, you know,

having that more insight of what's going on. You know what I'm saying, Um, the professionals to kind of you know, surround and figure out more of an intel, whether it's tech, whether it's you know, more of a response, whether it's whatever the problem is, you know, UM, to figure out that in the future and moving forward in concert safety,

make sure it just never happened again. You know. But let's talk about those professionals, like how much how much responsibility do you think like Live Nation and score more. The promoters having all of this, I mean, they do their job of you know, setting these things up. So I mean I think they when we dial into what you know, specifically happen here, I feel like, you know, even they can kind of help, you know, figure out

what happened in the sense um you know. But at the end of the day, I think collectively everyone needs to just figure out the bottom line solution. But you know, especially in concert safety, you know, definitely got to have you know, make sure that you know these things are you know, done right. You think he's afestival are too big man, pifty dollars people with a lot of people for anybody to their festivals that are bigger, you know, way bigger, And you know, I just think it's not

about the maximum of it. I think it's about the attension to what's going on and how it's going on. And as long as that's handle, I feel like things can be you know, can go okay, We'll be okay, you know. But if you look at it through the history of festivals, you know, um, this isn't the first time happening. It's been a long history of this, you know.

So I feel like if you look at the overall you know, view of that, and you kind of like dolling, Okay, what can we do better to fix this overall for general concert safety? I think we figure out the problem, you know, um and make it better for people to have better live experiences. Live Nation reportedly agreed to end the concert early after the Houston PD and the Fire Department declared it a match casualty event, but the concert continued for another forty minutes. Was there any ever any

communication to you on stage that you should in this? Well? Yeah, I mean it just told me right after you know, the guests can get off stage, you know, we're gonna end the show, you know, and that's what we did. No other than that, there was no other communication, you know, so after after the guests what you mean, Yeah, after the guests comes out, okay, we're gonna we're gonna end the show. But it wasn't a communication on why, you know. It was just you know, that's what came through my ears,

you know, So they didn't say stopping. Now, know. Wow, you feel like people are forcing more responsibility on you because you are the front man, because it was astral World. Well yeah, I mean, you know, I'm gonna you know, I'm the face of the festival. You know, I'm an artist, you know. UM, so yeah, you know, the media is you know, they yeah, they want to you know, put it on me, and but at the end of the day, it's like, I don't think it's more so about that.

I think it's more so about um stepping up to figure out what the problem is. And I could take that. I could take you know, stepping up to figure out what the problem is. I could take stepping into figuring out the solution that had never happened again, because that's what I generally want to do in general, even just

for my community. You know. The whole idea for why I brought this festival to the city was to you know, show that Houston is something different, you know, and show that there's all different types of lives, is all different type of energy, and just bring that morale to the city and just bring that energy to the city. So I definitely want to you know, step in to figure out, you know, how can we fix this in the future, what can we do to you know, change these things.

You know, do you feel like you did everything you possibly could to help in that situation? Yes, Yes, anything I physically care for sure, yes, and it just you know, if knowing you know what's going on, you know, you would just wish, you know, if you you know, couldn't something better, you know. But standing there, all right, we got more with Travis Scott and Charlemagne there one on one conversation, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club, Good

morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club Now. Yesterday Charlemagne did a one on one interview with the Travis Scott. If you just joined us with play the first two parts. What's your YouTube page, Charlemagne, Yeah, it'll be up on my YouTube page shortly. My YouTube page is See the God C T H A G O D. And so you know, if you're already subscribe to my YouTube page, thank you.

I don't post content often, but when I do, it's things like like this, So subscribe and it should be up on my YouTube page shortly. All right, Well, let's get to part three. It's the Breakfast Club Good Morning. You know, we know that the families of the people who passed are definitely watching this right now, and you know there's nothing you could say to heal the trauma these families who lost loved ones are you know, are going through. But being that you know they're watching, what

would you what would you say to them? Directly? I'll say to them that I'm I'm always here and that you know I'm you know, I'm I'm in this with you guys, and I love you, you you know, and I always you know, be there to help you guys heal to this. And I understand that they're going through you know, they're grieving right now and finally understanding right now and you know, it's not just like a right now thing. It's for everything. UM. And these people that came to

the show, they are my family. And I've always had that connection to the people. I feel like they listen to the music or it came to my shows, and that's why I really, you know, it's really hard on me even just you know, t even like you know, and even because you know they ended up, they they they lost they lost their loved ones, you know, so it you know, it's it's tough. UM. I just want to always just be there for them and just always just be able to just know that I'm gonna fix this.

For the future people, you know, and and fix this solution. Um and fix this problem, I mean, you know, um, and find a solution to making sure that this doesn't happen in the future. UM, and definitely be a number one of voice for this. You know. I feel like that's like one of the what we what we got to figure out because other than that, it's like, you know, the show goes on tomorrow or you know, something goes How does it? How does this get fixed? This could

happen again, just happened before. Yeah, yeah, you're you're you're a father, you know, God forbid when your kids are of age, if they're in a situation like this, you know what you do put yourself in those parents shoes right now? What would what would you want to see come of this situation? If you I want to see people put their heads together. I would want to see people really figure this out, not take this lightly, you know, um, and really act on it. And that's you know, that's

one of the main things that's important. I feel like they gotta just act on it. It can't just be like something that happens and it just roll over. We got to be something that's taken serious. And address seriously and things formed around it. Time and a lot of a lot of time and a lot of you know, thinking power is spent on this, you know, and really fixing you know, whatever system it just needs to be fixed, you know, from the lawsuits to the media coverage to

do Do you feel like you're personally under attack? I mean, I mean yeah, I mean you see a name in it and it and it's like but you know, at the end of the day, you step in these you know, you step you want to do a festival, and you know when we want to do things and you want to build up. You know, it comes with certain things, right, So I think it's all about how you respond to it.

And I think it's all about how you react, right So I could feel that way, but I think more so about it's more about how I feel about the response that I that I that I'm that I care about more so, which is you know, actually, you know, trying to step in and you know, really step up to really fixing what's happening and and really step up for the safety or concert cours or people in just

live spaces period. I wonder, I wonder is there a way to even prepare for this because nobody, like you said, when you're doing the planning for a show like this, nobody is planning for this to happen. So how do you how do you even prepare for something like this step I don't know. And I feel like when we get I feel like, when it comes out a little bit more how this could have happened. I feel like that's how we can kind of attack that. But even

I was thinking in ways like tech solutions. You know, people come into these festivals with these bands that only scan you in right, you have you know, we have all type of tech now that can track your heart contract your you know, oxygen levels, contracting, the sick. You can put things now if you're gonna be you know,

get lost. It's all type of ways now, like that can be the band that only gets you access to entry or to the food line or two food trucks can now be solvable to helping save lives, you know, can now be more of a response to people that are now on site and on ground. Um, I feel like that could be a way, or you know, even just figuring out what the exact solution, what the exact problem of it was, and dialing more into that. I think you can kind of. I feel like there is

a way. I just think it needs to be time spent on figuring that figuring that out. Have you been able to have any personal conversations with any of the families who lost levels? I was able to, Um, But you know, I just want to just respect that, you know, the privacy of the conversation. And I'm thankful for them for even allowing me to have the conversation. Yeah, how did you feel when some of the families rejected your

offer to pay for the funerals? All things are understandable, and you know, at the time, they're grieving and they're trying to find understanding, and you know, they want answers, and it's not about it's not about that, you know. UM, I'm always gonna be here, you know, to want to help them, you know what I'm saying, And and it's it's not gonna you know, I gotta continue to show

up for that, you know. UM, I just wanted to make sure that they knew that I was there for them, you know what I mean, and continue to be there for them. UM. I think that's just more so what it's about for that Um yeah, some people say, um, your your your music played a role in this, Like I've seen them, you know, cite lyrics, you know that encouraged just kind of behavior. I've seen him say your music is demonic and this was a satanic ritual. You think your music is to blame? I mean no, I'm

I mean why, I'm a man of God. So that's the first thing first, and um, you know, so it's just yeah, that's that. And you know your music is just like self expression, you know I'm saying. And at these shows, I feel like people kind of like look at things. And if you've been the Travis Show, it's it's been different layers of shows. You know. I think people are just you know, misconceptions and taking these seeing

and you know all type of things. You know. Um, and I've I've I've took pride in trying to you know, grow from where I was when I first recorded music to now where I'm going in music. Um So yeah, I just think people gotta and and that's one thing with me is just people gotta kind of you know, experience it sometimes. And I think that's what it was. You know, people were kind of like even before people were hearing about it, they come and experience it and

taking away their own thing. And it's always going to be an outside opinion. But you know, for the ones that you know really believe in me and you know understand what. You know, what I'm about and what I'm doing. No, that's not That's not what I'm you know, preaching. I always preach like love, always preach you understanding. I always preach, you know, take care of your loved ones. Love each other.

You know what I'm saying, Get out your ideas, never let never let yourselves be stop, you know, love one another and step into that, you know. I mean, I think that's a part of it. But the music does encourage people to be violent at these shows. I mean, I mean that's what the rage is about. I mean, most of the music is its me sometimes talking about what I see at the shows, you know what I mean. If I'm talking about the shows, you know, and so it's just that's just you know, the energy, you know

what I'm saying. But the energy isn't to come and start, you know, being ultra violent and just being violent and hurting each other. That's not That's not what it's about, all right, that's part three of the conversation and one on one conversation with Charlemagne and Travis Scott and I don't move. We got more coming up. I usually we do rumors, but this is, uh, this is more important this morning, so don't move. It's the Breakfast clubal morning parting.

Everybody is DJ Envy and Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now if he's just joining us, where playing back Charlomagne's one on one conversation with Travis Scott. Yeah, we sat. I sat down with Travis Scott to you know, discuss the tragedy that happened on November fifth at after World in Houston, Texas. You know, clearly not the easy conversation, and you know he wants to discuss how he can help make sure this never happens again, which he doesn't

even know what that looks like yet. But here's the conversation, right, and we'll take some calls after this. Eight hundred five eight five one five one. It's the Breakfast Club. His part four, you said you're a man of God. And when I even said that, you know they say your music in Satanic. I saw the face that you made. What do you what do you think that even comes from Travis Scott is Satan and Travis scottis. I just

think it's just things people collect. You know, people look at the Internet and they just collect and they look at things, and they look at visuals, and you know, we have all these theorists and people just thinking they're looking at visuals don't understand you know, just the idea of like what art maybe, or what what you're trying to do. You know, they're just making up your own message, especially when you're not out there like yelling the message

all the time. You know, it's just yeah, and when they say this is a community event after a world Yeah, so they say a community event is a Satanic ritual? How does that? Yeah, It's like it's it's it's crazy because you know, it's like I do this for people to have a good time. You know, we have rides, we have games. You know, it's things for people to get off, creative experiences. It's not you know, the show

is at the end of the day. You know, it's like you know and that show is just something based on on what's you know, just the's things. You know, It's not like what like why would we wake up one day and just trying to It's just that's just evil. It's not what we are part of. Not trying to

be a part of that. We're trying to be a part of joy, trying to be a part of light, and trying to be a part of full blown happiness, love, you know, understanding people taking care of each other, you know, community, people to leave from these experiences and want to go out and do good. It's literally what we want, you know, we want to show them these things. You know, we put everything into it. You know, this is you know,

this festival. You know, this is our third year, you know, so we try to put you know, we every year we put everything into the festival so people can enjoy it. You know. It's not about even just come perform that not that, you know, it's things for them to do all day and different artists for them to experience too. Have the trauma of just tragedy impacted your desire to perform in the future. I've always seen performances of art of healing for me. That's why I've always been so

into it. You know, I don't know if you like, you know, looked at like some of the growth from where I'm trying to take performance. I've I've always tried that. I feel like it's the art of healing. I feel like it's a moment where people have a mutual understanding, you know. And I feel like the first things first before anything is that we address you know, a lot

of safety concerns. I think the first things first is that because not even just for me, you don't want other you know, artists to have to go and take a part of that trauma, to take a part of that experience, take a part of that, you know, over that fear. You don't want console girls to still be a part of that fear. They want you want, you want them to feel safe, you know what I'm saying.

So I think that's just the first things first. And I think once we take major steps into moving in that direction, you know, I feel like, you know, it could be cool to for people to practice that healing again, you know, and understand that. I don't think people should run away from it and shy away from it. I think, you know, it's it's a it's a form of healing,

you know. You know, no matter what you do at any of your shows in the future, regardless of how much security, how much safety you put in place, you cannot control human behavior. Yeah. Yeah, you can't control forty fifty thousand people doing whatever they do. Is that's scary? I mean yeah, but you know you also put trust in the fans too to you know, just have a

good time. You know, you just reinstill that, and you know you continue to practice, you know, when you're on stage, should just remind them, you know, um, and even when they're there, to just constantly have messages to remind them like, yo, look if here to have a good time, we're not here. If you see somebody you know help another you know, um.

I think it's just continue to reinstill that message. I think helped that mindset if Yeah, so after a world was one of you know, several ways you gave back to Houston, do you think you've you know, lost that privilege to do that. To be honest, I haven't really like thought about that because I've just been thinking about just community healing and you know, the family's healing and you know, all those things kind of building back up.

Um that that could take forever. Though, you know, I don't know if you ever truly heal yeah, from these type of situations and you know, but you know, through these things, you know, like I say, music is part of healing. And at the end of the day, um, I don't I just don't, you know, the Travis Scott show or you know, an asture or show you know, wasn't the bottom line fact that what happened here, you know? And I think we just got to figure out what

that was, what happened. But you know, having a Travis Scott show and we've done shows you know, all over that wasn't the you know, what happened here? You know, something that happened here, you know, And that's why I want to fix it, because it can happen anywhere, you know what I'm saying. And I think once we get further along in that, I think, you know, you know, it'd be more a little bit more receptive. I feel,

did they make you feel judged? When you see videos, you know, circulating the other artists stopping their shows like to check on fans since since after World because almost like the insinuation from other artists that like, you didn't do enough, So we don't want to be like driving I'll take it as you know, they're just taking extra precautions, you know, because it might not have been something that you know, let's running through their mind at time before,

and they're just taking extra precautions to you know, make sure they don't run through the same same problems. And I could commend them for that. You know. I've always done the same thing, you know, in my prior shows and at their shows, So you know, I feel them, you know. I just think it's been a little bit more people are more capturing it now, like because of what's going on. I think that's just how the media works. If the families are the victims, never forgive you. Will

you ever be able to forgive yourself? Can you live with that? No? It's tough, you know, it's real tough, m because I want them to really know that my intentions wasn't you know, it wasn't the harm their family at all. It's for them to come and have a good experience. Um. I've always feel like I have a connection with my fans, you know, through the music. I feel like when they come to see me, and it's not just like oh they're coming, they're coming in, it's

like a connection. Um. And you know, sometimes not knowing you know, people not understanding like artists and where we come from that it could be the connect and you know, I would love to you know, instead of understanding and you know, for them to truly know my heart's from. You know, it didn't come for them for me to horror and it wasn't about a show to keep you

know at all. You know, it's a you know, it's about for them to have you know, one of the you know, a very good time and it's just traged that it didn't turn out that way. You know. So I guess my final question, man, who do who? Who does? Who does Travis Scott? Ultimately, I guess think it is responsible for this tragedy. You know, something tragic happening here. Well, what I've just been trying to, you know, get to the bottom of it is just what happened here, how

it happened here? And you know, I think the families are old, you know that I feel like, you know, the community is old that I feel like we're old that to just know what happened here. I don't want to just speak too soon. I just want to figure out what, you know, what happened. You know, you know they're going to pick this interview apart, So anything you want to say to your fans, to the family of people who lost loved ones, you know, before we get

out of here. I mean, I just want to I want everyone and can just continue praying for the fans, Um. I want to continue. I want people to continue praying for the ones, the fans I was lost, you know. I want people to continue praying for the families. I

want people to continue just reaching out for healing. I think the more we try to, you know, continue to let people grieve and continue to be there for people and you know, checking more people and you know, checking on your loved ones and just you know that, you know, I think that's just like one of the most important things. You know, UM, stand strong through this while we you know, figure out what's going on, you know, and and bring

understanding to these families and to the communities. That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna send healing energy to everybody involved, the families, you know, those who were lost, yourself, because nobody wants tragedies like just appe not at all, So preventing the moving for it is the only thing we can do. Appreciate you brother, Yes, sir, absolutely wait wait, wake up, wait, you're checking out the breakfast club? Hey, what up? Y'all's dj envy here? It's all fun in games.

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all that around your eye. This man to dogon blowers many wait for Charmaine had to make a judgment of who was going to be on the donkey of the day. They chose you this club, bitch, Yeah day what Darcy to Dave goes to me? Okay? Leonardo mclvy ak Charlomagne to God, I'm gonna tell you why now I'm a good, god fearing man with a criminal mind state okay. Grew up on a dirt road in Monkst Corner, South Carolina.

Mom was a Jehovah witness English teacher. My father was an entrepreneurgro did everything from owning a fish market, the construction, the selling narcotics. It is what it is, It was what it was. My mother kept a book in my face. I read everything from my book of Bible stories to all you there, God, it's me Margaret. Side note, Judy Bloom sent me and my oldest daughter an autograph copy of all You their God, It's me. Margaret dropped on the clues bonds for Judy Bloom. Bro. You can't shout

that out with a mask, yo, side okay. She signed it to Charlemagne and in parenthesis Lenard, love you from your fan, Judy Bloom. Thank you, Judy. Also side note to a side note, I ordered some penis enlargement pills and I've been taking them, and I've been chanting, I must, I must, I must increase my thrust. I explained it on this week's Bring Idiot's podcast. Go listen. Now, what's my point here? My point here is that I come from the dirt all right, South Carolina, eight foot three

all day. That is always in me. Therefore I would always love the ratchetness of life, even at forty two years old, married with three kids and a receding headline. I love ratchetness. I still do hood rat things with my friends. We just do it at our houses are

on vacation when the kids go to sleep. But the reason I'm giving myself donkey of to day is because this morning, when I was here by myself, I was talking about the domestic terrorists that you know hit the capitol, you know, Vanilla isis And I was still on a high after listening to all these good country wrap tunes this morning on title, and I feel I feel stupid. Just listen to how I've been sounding this morning. I've talked my way out of enough home invasions to know

when something is a setup. Okay. I don't even know who the trust in government anymore, but I know who I do trust, and that's no damn body, okay. Period. And for some reason I started to saying, that's on cryp. But I'm not a cript. I don't even know why the hell I would even say something like that. All right, truth all again. Out there, I'm driving in this morning,

I heard you shout out all the gangs. Then I don't know why I said, I'm gonna be asking you, you know how I feel aboudy be talking like that's im crip, and I don't think about it like I ain't even know crip. Why am I saying I'm walking in blue dollar gangs though, Mellow, I don't know what's going on the Pallo. We held it down for the morning while everybody wasn't there. Man appreciate that it's about time.

I don't know who died it made Ju six nine, but I don't know who died and made me six nineties. And Mellow, there's quite a three problems with all those statements. Number One, I don't gang bang, never having my life. I'm not a crip, not a blood either. I'm nothing. I'm a man who has therapy to day at three pm.

I'm a man who is scared to order a protein shake from around the corner here and hearing Triedbecca's because I feel like they keep giving me whole milk and not owning milk, and I don't have time to spend. I was on the toilet today and I get dairy bumps. My point was saying all of this and the reason I'm giving myself donkey that this is because I just feel stupid and donkey today. It's all about giving people

to credit they deserve for being stupid. If you read my first book, the New York Times best selling Black Privilege, and you know, one of my laws in my book was always give people to credit they deserve for being stupid, including yourself. And that's what I'm doing right now. The reason I feel stupid is because I was writing in the work this morning, listening to the New South playlists on the title bro. There's some records on there that make my inner child smile. I mean, there are records

on there that make the hood in me happy. Okay, I'm from South Carolina, the eight four three eight or three eight six four. When you come from a certain environment, there is a certain energy that is always in you. And when you listen to certain music, certain music is so powerful and it would just have you feeling like you something you're not. Okay, that's what Pooh shicsty guard up did for me. Okay, that's play poosh shanty guard en.

Let me hear a little bit of that. Man, come, I just past them up, telling Godel to bunt up on the key to carmbers of the earn. Somebody apiece think I applied gold tie so I can put them in my mouth. Okay, that's what Off the Porch by my kid Glock did it for me. This morning, I was listening to the Roaring Twenties by Flow Million. Did my dog Little Boss from North Chalton, southcare a lot of He's on the New South title playlist and you've got a song called I Know It. He's from the

same state as me from the Chuck. How can I not be influenced? Okay, how can I not be? You know what I feel like right now? I'm at the point where I'm like a wax on Minutes to Society, Salute to the good brother MCA. Make sure y'all check out that gangst the Chronicles podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio Network. I'm like a wax I don't did so much dirt that I just like to see other people do it. I like to hear it, I like to

feel it. I like to see it. But I'm not doing it, and you don't have to hear certain records and it takes you back to your old while loud days. Yes, so I'm not alone here? Then, yeah, you are a little bit alone? Mean why why why am I alone? Because you have a ski mask on and you've been saying on slide. You judging me some on God, why are waiting a gun? Happy? A fake gun? You're right, let me put that away, Okay, I'm just saying it really makes you think about the influence this music is

having on the youth. Because the influenced my grown ass this morning. But not because they might rap about violence and doing criminal activities and gang stuff, but because it's fun. It's just fun. I mean, listen to these country rap tis. Play some of that key clock off the porch. Just listen to this. It's like, Hey, I jumped up the porch, then I jumped in the boof. I used to rat t his piece. Now I got a new coop page. I'm hugging humble, but I'm playing it out cool. But

don't get this shit ain't out on the news. Hey come on home, man, But hey, play some of that flow Milli Roaring twenties, and I'm gonna tell you something. You know, I'm all about the sacred masculine and the divine feminine. Okay, this right here is for the divine hood rating all of us. Play some of this roaring attorneys by flow Millie, Okay, making me feeling come home, man, that's for all the negroes that want to do the Busteed Challenge, but our needs not what they used to be. Okay, okay,

hey play a snippet of my dog Little Boss. Okay, I know it's South Carolina all day. Come on now, she said, like when I saw something first one, I woke up and I said, I know more now. She said, she like counster and I'm getting that money and I said, I know it. They're like, I got that bag on and that's funny man and beat that they're look at that scrap on being because I know that they after me. That's when I saw something. I said, And do you feel me? Fly on trap? Okay, you doing y'a dramas

on guiding them? Give me the biggest feet hall. Okay, we got more coming up. Next to don't Move, Happy Holidays, Don't go Anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Come Morning, the Breakfast Club, Power one O five one, The Breakfast Club. Your morning's will never be the same morning. Everybody's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. That's right, he's the head of Instagram. Hi Adam. How do I

say your last name? I don't want to mess it up, Sarissi, Adam, what's up? My gulco? Thanks for having men joining us. Tell people what that meets the head of Instagram, CEO of Instagram, What does that mean? It means that if something goes wrong on Instagram, it's on me, and if

something goes right, it's probably on my team. But generally I spend as much my time as I can helping us think about where we're going, what we need to do better, what we need to double down on because it's going well, and building the team to help us get it done. Let's get to the nity gritty because I saw a lot of people on social media when you said you would coming here. They have questions, Please

bring them. Let's discuss the election first, right because, as you know, there's a lot of fake news that was going around, and there were a lot of issues with Facebook with fake news. You know, how do you guys take responsibility for your platforms with COVID, with fake news and things like that happening, making sure that that information doesn't get spread out. Social media as a technology isn't

good and it isn't bad. It just is. And social media specifically is a great amplifier in a lot of ways, and it can amplify good and it can amplify bad, and so it's our responsibility to do all we can to amplify the good and mitigate the bad. And you see both spread on the platform, right. You saw the Black Lives Matter movement spread on social media. You saw me too spread on social media. But you also see

things like misinformation spread on social media. And so we try to figure out all the different things that we can do to identify problems and address them and then also rethink the core of what we do and how we do it to create better outcomes. And that work

never ends. And so I mean you brought up a couple of different things there, but on misinformation specifically, what we do is we work with third party fact checkers, So people who do this for a living, who do this for publications, we give them access to what's shared on the platform, and they can dispute things. They can say that this isn't true and here's a link to why.

And when that happens, we reduce the spread of that when we label things and we give people links to good information but we don't take it off the platform entirely unless there's a safety risk. So for things like COVID nineteen or vaccine related misinformation, we just stick it off the platform entirely. So at this point we spend billions of dollars a year and there are tens of thousands of people between the engineers, the reviewers, and everything

else focused on safety. How liable should social media platforms be in regards to lawsuits, like if I want to sue somebody for sland our deformation, should I be able to name the social media platform? Yeah? So this is

actually one of the big legal debates right now. Right and here in the US they talk a lot about Section to thirty, which gives technology platforms essentially no liability, but the people who post that content are liable in different countries around the world that that may not be the case. Actually it isn't the case. Yea. South Africa don't play. Yeah, no, a lot of Europe they don't play. And so the thing that I think is that it's important that company needs are held to account to take

measures to keep people safe. But I don't think we can go all the way to have a social media platform be accountable for every single thing that is said on that platform by every person, because they're over a billion people on Instagram at this point, and there's there's no version of that where there aren't going to be people with problematic opinions, racists, et cetera are going to show up. I'm not going to check that at the

door when they open up Instagram. But I do think that doesn't mean that we can just you know, wipe a hand. The question is where are we on that spectrum? What do you say to people that say that, you know, social media, Instagram per se, it's really affecting people's mental where people are are you know, thinking of committing suicide and you know, having problems in school and self esteem and all of those things due to that platform. So there's a range here, and I think they are all

really important questions. There are problems that are really acute, right So if you are struggling with self injury or suicide, that is I mean, that's high stakes, that's really problematic. And we've done a lot of work in that area to try and be thoughtful about what we share, like getting people access to good information or to help. So, for instance, right now, if we think you are a risk to yourself, we will do it, will direct uture resources or even in some extreme cases resources to you.

How do you report that? Right in the reason I'm stopping you there, Let's say you have a family member that goals and it's off doing some wild still a lot of times them themselves don't know that they're doing wild stuff, but a family member might. How does that family member report that to Instagram and say, Hey, my sisters doing this, or my aunt is doing this, or my brother is doing this. How does that work? So in every post, be a photo, video or anything else

on Instagram, you can always report something. There's a little dot dot Do you really check it? Because sometimes I feel like it doesn't get checked because there's so many people that make fake MV pages. I feel like every day we've got room number, we definitely check it. But the challenge is the truth is the reports are actually mostly not of things that are problem. There's a ton of people who are like, I don't like the way I look in this photo, and I'm going to report it.

Oh my god, Yeah, it's it's actually the vast Oh, it's the vast majority, which is imagine that, Yeah, which is why we can't rely only on the reports. We definitely check the reports. We prioritize them, right, So if someone's reporting someone's a risk to themselves, we're gonna look at that much faster than someone's reporting something as being nudity,

for instance. But we have to also build technology ourselves to go out and try and identify things, because if someone's going to be a risk to themselves, that's where you're going live and you're talking about hurting yourself. We don't want to wait for someone to hopefully report that. By the way, we don't have a religious opinion on

the female nipple. The reason why we don't allow nudaty on Instagram is because it is actually a safety issue because we can't verify age and we can't verify consent. I think social media sometimes protects biggest though, it protects biggest in regard to racism homophobia, because I've posted videos of like racists getting punched in the face right for blatantly being racist, and then Instagram we'll remove it. We

definitely make mistake. We also take a lot of flak for letting people say a lot of crap that we don't necessarily agree with in general, we're gonna try and bias towards letting people say what they want on the platform, and we try to only take content down when there's a safety risk. Should the FCC regulate social media like they do radio and TV? They can, and they should. I think regulation is important. I think that social media is too big to not have governments have an opinion

about what should and should not be. Okay. Now, the type of regulation, though, is particularly important. Some regulation could be really helpful, particularly clarifying what is and what is not you know, a certain problem out of content type. So for instance, we have a hate speech policy. Hate speech protects people based on nine different types of traits, so you know, race, gender, religion, the things you would expect.

That's our definition. But you have to be careful because if you get too aggressive with regulation, or you write regulation in certain ways, you might incentivize social platforms to censor more. Right, if you're going to find them a big amount every time they make a mistake and that's something up, they're going to take down more because this is their financial interest to do so. Now, another question

I have. You were talking about wanting to make sure I saw you said that you wanted to make sure that creatives actually start making more money on Instagram, and I know they have like the tips that you can do on YouTube and things like that. Yeah, what are some ways that you guys? I see the Instagram ads you can also sign up for, which I'm not one

hundred percent share what that is. So if you want to explain how people can make money on Instagram, and there's a range of ways we can help creators make a living. Largely they fall into three categories. The first is essentially commerce, So you can do branded content, right, so you get paid by a brand off of Instagram or off of Facebook, and then you do a deal and your post on Instagram to promote whatever that is.

But then we also need to do things that allow people to pay the creators that they love directly, right, So we're interested in things like tipping. So we've got badges for instance, when you go live right now exploring if we can support subscripe. Maybe you could have a group of people who pay you five bucks a month and you get them exclusive content that only they get,

and you can do that right through Instagram. It's almost like the only fans type of thing where you can have a subscription, but now the stuff that they subscribe to, can you put whatever you want up there now? Because you know who your subscribers are, right, you know their age. It's almost like you could take that now, you can show a nipple, you know, because you know who your subscribers are. All right, yes and no, So if there's a safety issue, we're still going to have to take

it down. But I mean, for instance, we do do age gating for certain types of content, so things like today tobacco, that kind of thing. So we could we could we could explore that we haven't actually talked about that morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee shall I mean the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still kicking in with Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram. Is

it a trick to it? Though? You know, at a lot of people are like, hey, it's a trick when I post my videos because sometimes I post a video or picture and I get this amount of likes, and then sometimes it's on this page and I get this amount of likes. Yeah, like, you know, was a trick to maybe. I'm like, I'm not giving up my tricks. I would I'm trying to figure too. I've got an account,

I'm trying to build up my following. The unfortunate truth is there's no perfect answer, and it's the million dollar question. There are a couple of things I'd say. One is it's important to first when you're using whether it's Instagram or any other social media platform, to be intentional about

what you're using it for. Are using it to promote a cause that you believe, and are using it as a business directly, are using it to just build up awareness of your business, and you make your money elsewhere. The other thing to be honest about is that every audience is different, right, So what's going to work best for your followers isn't necessarily probably not going to work with what's best for my followers. So you and I both have to experiment. We've got to try things, see

what works, see what doesn't. But there are other things that are more broadly true. So I do think it's generally true to give people a good sense of what you're about and what you do. So I try to build up these sort of patterns. So I do a video every week where I talk about what's happening on Instagram. Video also this seems to be a lot of interest across the entire world and always consuming more videos. So some of those basics are more universal, but a lot

of it is more nuanced. Unfortunately, what is Instagram learning from the black creators on TikTok so the black strike on TikTok, Black credit struck on TikTok, I think is mostly about credit right too often Black creators will create amazing things and not creat credit for it, and someone else,

often not black, who will reap all the benefits. But we're trying to understand not just that, but the broader set of issues and the big set of issues that we've heard from the black community here in the States and over the last year and a half are things around censorship, shadow banning, racism on the platform, having your content taken down when you fight back against the bigot

or a racist. And so we feel like the credit stuff that TikTok is dealing with is important and we're looking we're working on that, but we really got to first do better on the basics because we don't really even have a right to play in like the creator monetization space unless we can get better on the issues around content takedowns, account suspensions like little Boosey. Yeah, okay, you know, little Boozy gonna stop calling you out now

he's been saying you know who. Now surprise, I'm surprised he hasn't sit them in my DM. You know now. Adam was sorry, you guy right here. I can't wait to see him later on. Adam Moossary, Adam Mossary. It's Mossi with seven essays. Now what about limiting screen? No no, why doesn't Boozy keep getting taken down? We gotta drug the line somewhere and it's it's a nudity policy. We try to be clear. You can appeal, but if you get too many strikes to think you know what's nudity?

Because I flagged Kim Kardashi in ten thousand times. Remember when Kim posted a picture Why would you do it? Because they don't take cut down, but they take everybody out there. So I flagged it. If she posts a picture of nipples getting taken down. If the guy, no, guy,

this is one. This is one of my man. Nipples are allowed, so I should be clear one of one of one of my favorite tricks that people who are sort of nudity advocates talk about One of my favorite tricks that they do is they'll take a mail nipple, cut it out, and paste the mail nipple on a female's breast and post that just to test our policies. If we figure it out, that's allowed. You know, This is what it means to be a platform with as much reach as we have, is you're gonna have people

try to push you and figure things out. Does Instagram understanding cult it all? Right? Because you have people like little Duvall Little Booty whose page always get taken down, and it could be for doing things like using the N word, but they're using it in like the context of that's my N word, but it'll get taken down for like racial slurs really like yeah, yeah. So it's tough because no, we don't understand culture perfectly at all,

just super clear, you can't at our scale. And so there are things where we just have to draw the line or define a rule that is practical for us to actually enforce, because the perfect rule is going to be nuanced, but the perfect rule we cannot enforce accurately and consider certainly tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of times a day or whatever it is. And so yeah, there are certain racial slurs that you cannot say on Instagram,

regardless of how you identify. Now, that's just because we don't think we would be able to get it right enough of the time. We would make too many mistakes otherwise, and it's better for us to be transparent about the rule and then be able to act accordingly. And you can make your own decision. What about limiting screen time because I know that was a discussion that people have. You know, your phone will tell you how long you've been on all of these apps. Is that something in

Instagram that people are concerned about? Like? Are you concerned about that people being addicted and constantly on their phone? I mean, for me, it's everything in moderation. But I also want to be clear there's a difference between like addiction, which is a compulsion to do something that is unhealthy for you that you cannot stop, and just problematic use or overuse people that are addicted to social media, though

some are and some just use it too much. And so what we try to do is decide for the difference. So if you're in a really problematic state, how can we intervene? How can we let you know how much time you're spending, etc. But if you're just using it a lot, the things that we need to do might be different. Replace what you say with cocaine, some people aren't addictive, but some people just use it too much.

I don't know if I can talk about that same thing with the same thing, because if you're using it too much, you clearly have like a draw to it that you can't control. Right, But I think cocaine is a drug, and a drug has serious medical, you know, implications. I think social media will in the future, I don't. I think psychologically, emotionally, mentally, we do not. Even we're not even scratching the surface of social media is impact

people in the future, I think that's reasonable. But I also think that every new technology is first met with a wave of optimism. People are really excited about what it can do, then a huge wave of concern, and then ideally you get to some sort of balance, and by the way, as you get through it, the media itself or the technology itself gets better. I think social media is a technology that's just said earlier in that phase. So yeah, I'm sure use of social media can affect

your health. Like because communicating with anyone can affect your health, and social media is just a way to connect. Let's talk about that because I feel like social media is changing human behavior in real life, is making people's collective attention spans decrease, is making people in secure. I think it's fueling narcissism. So how do you make it a more mentally healthy environment? I think that there's really three types of work I personally think we have to do.

The first is to identify acute issues. You know, if people who are at risk of self injury are becoming more at risk, how do we address that. How do we make sure that they can still do what a lot of people who are struggling with self injury deal on social media, which is get support, get help. It's important to talk about your experience. Maybe you're you know, your thirty days clean and you want to celebrate that. How do we allow that content on Instagram without content

that celebrates self injury? So, you know, identify qute issues, Identify solutions that work never ends, keep working there. Then I think we need to identify areas where we can go further, where we can be innovative, where we can define new ways of addressing the issues. Like one of the ones that we're been focused on for about two years now, I was bullying, And so then what can we do there? And there were trying to invent new things,

things like restricts. Right, restrict allows you to block someone without you knowing about it. That's my favorite thing to do because they're still posting, but they don't know that no one can see it about them. Yeah, and so that was from our work on bullying. But then the third area is what are the core things about how Instagram works or social media works that we need to rethink. That's why we experimented with and made it so that people could pick to have light counts to be private.

For instance, are there core things that we need to rethink because they are creating too much bad or too many problems and not enough good. What about taking away likes? I remember that was a flirtatious idea. Yeah, so the idea is to allow you to well, originally was to hide light counts so you could still like things, but it would be less of a popularity contest, but you could see it but not everybody else. Yes, it turned out to be really polarizing. It didn't seem to change

much about how people felt about Instagram. We tried to see if it changed people well being. We try to measure well being your question by asking people sending These are surveys. So essentially we work with academics, professionals, experts outside of the company who have defined all sorts of ways of measuring well being. So what they did is they designed a set of questions that whose answers correlate.

So if you if you say you have a support network, if you say you are not lonely, these things correlate with real world wellbeing outcomes over the long run. And so then we try to run surveys on Instagram and ask people those same questions, and we try to see for things like hiding lightcounts that change how people answer those questions. It didn't. But some people love this and some people hated it. And so what we did is, you said, all right, well, given that, let's give people

a choice. You can decide you can hide light counts and not have to be part of your Instagram experience, or you can have light counts. Well more, we have more with the head of Instagram, Adam Musseri. When we come back is the Breakfast Club, Good morning, the Breakfast Club, more Abidas, dj Envy angela Ye, shallow me and the guy we are. The Breakfast Club was still kicking with Adam Museri, the head of Instagram, tired of seeing if I like her booty or not. I'm tired of bitcoin

because you should invest with this person. The word is sam. I didn't know where he was talking about it something long and hard. I don't get that one, but go ahead, I get that so much like this, like it's ridiculous and why stops? Yeah, so some of this happens just because we make the mistakes and we think you're interested in things that you're not interested in. And so right now you can say, right, all, yeah, why would why would you think? Are the ads? Are there just a

regular like spam much like comments comments spam? Yeah? Yeah, okay, you're talking about spam in the comments, right. I thought you were talking about like in your explore. No, this is spam you're getting. If you're getting, you want a long and hardened and explore. It's like trying to address this. I'm ordering no, pedith, ordering penis and lament. This some delicate, delicate you know, answer to this question was like, like, what are you following? Man? Okay, way better now, Thank

you for making me feel good about it. If I wasn't to explore with you know it teach their if it's no judgments, No, it's in the comment picture right now and within spams. Yeah, so this is yeah, so the bots and the spam comments. So we are working on this. One of the things is we've made less progress on this issue as some other issues because we've prioritized things like safety issues. But we've gotten better at bots. But the thing is the spammer is and the bots

they've gotten more sophisticated. So we do things we look like, okay, if you comment every second of the day, twenty four hours a day, you're not a person. You're so like, we shut you down. But they've gotten sophisticated. They mask themselves at different phones, they do it on different intervals, they pretend to sleep, they do all of this stuff, and so it's it's a it's an arms race, so to speak. As we get better at addressing issues, they work around those issues, and then we got to get

better addressing those new issues. I should hire them. They seem pretty We try, we try, we know we try what about getting verified? People always want to know how can I get ver Yes, there's people that are like, I can pay if you pay me, I can get you a scam scam, No, don't um. So you can apply in the app the point of verification though it's not supposed to be a status symbol. It's supposed to be a way for people who are getting impersonated to be able to signal to the world what their real

account is. Now it's turned into a status symbol. I get that, but that was not ever the intent. You can apply in the app. What we look for essentially is notability. We try to evaluate it using third parties, so we basically look for press about you. There's no in them follow our account. If you don't get approved in the vast majority of the cases, it's because we

couldn't find enough press about you. Let's say I've search cars and then all I'll get his cars, car car car, car car car, or if I search your phones, or I'll get his phone phone and phone phonell do you guys do that? And can we take that off so I don't have to see that all day long? Forgive search and I can be talking about something we don't listen. We don't listen. My wife thinks I'm a liar on this too. It's a real cast and fight at the home. Um okay, So on the search or on ads more broadly,

so this is this adds where this will happens. Ye, they'll explore. It is a little tippy too, like if I express a little bit too much interest in something, I get a lot of that thing for a couple of whiles. So we're trying to get to better um balance there. But on ads you can't. You can go to your ad preferences and you can say I'm interested in. It will show you what we think you're interested in,

and you can change them. Um. And so that's over undersettings under your profile and or ad preferences for listening. We are not listening. It would be a gross violation of policy. Would also drain your battery, your phone would turn on like you would be able to know it. But all the time we get accused of this. I think what is happening is one sometimes the advertising is

actually working. Like you saw it a couple of times and then you thought about it, and then you know, and then you noticed it and you talked about it. I don't have a bible to make you put you I will put my hand on it. I don't know how to I'm not going to convince you. Clearly that's a weird thing to do. If you want me to do it, I'll do it. Um. I think also is that we don't just show you ads based on what we know about you. We show you ads based on you know what your friends seem to like. We call

that collaborative filtering. And ads are good, like we're good at figuring out what you're interested in. We don't always get it right. We make mistakes. I know a lot of people don't like ads, but we think that ads fundamentally they allow small businesses to play on an equal playing field with big businesses. And then it woul happened to you. Have you been talking about something then you look down at your Instagram the ad for it pops up.

Not directly, no, but I've definitely they had things been like, how the hell did we know I was interested in that? How many meanings did you have to be in the president? That was that a huge conversation. It was an intense conversation, but it was an intensity of circumstances we didn't have a policy for what happens when a sitting president incites a riot to try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to a new president. There's sort of the new

territory for all of us lying this whole presidency. Though, yeah, I could have took them down early on, right, But we don't have a policy against lye. We have a policy against lying when they're safety risks. You could make that case here. But we also want to make sure that politicians can get health accountable for their actions, and so they've had historically in certain areas different rules, the

same way public figures have different rules. But that was an intense moment, and we have this thing that we call the Oversight Board now because a lot of these decisions we think shouldn't be made by us directly, So we sort of built this board. It's independent, and we made this decision and then we asked them for their opinion on it. Basically, um, they did. But what I would have done, which they said, is like, yeah, we would have banned them too, But you have to have

a policy. You can't just like do it something, you know, as a one off. And I think that was fair. And then we defined a policy now and he suspended four two years. Who owns the pictures that you post? Because it was a rumor that you own a pictures so we own a pictures. Instagram does not own the pictures. Yeah, once every year or two we get a false declaration that like, you don't own your stuff and if you repost this random chain letter, you own it and it

goes viral. But then we try to go on correct that as quickly as possible and make sure people know what the real rules are. I wonder about the intention. I wonder what the intention was when they first started a lot of these sites. But also when you see Frankenstein becoming Frankenstein, when do you know, maybe it might be time to take down Frankenstein's Frankenstein the whole thing. At this point, it feels like it like when you watch movies, like when you watch the communities, like the

Social Dilemma on Netflix. What goes through your mind that specific one, though, I felt like it was a little bit dramatic triplet programmers like in a Star Trek place deciding what you see is clearly on how things work. But overall I thought they were bringing up in portant issues that should be talked about. I thought that's a healthy thing. Now, Look I'm biased. I want to recognize that up front, but I really believe that we do a lot of good in the world. We help a

lot of people express themselves. We help them go straight to their fans or to the or to their friends, they don't have to go to traditional media. We will help small businesses around the world. We help marginalized communities around the world in a lot of ways. But there's bad that comes to now. I think there's more good than bad. So I don't think that it makes sense that, you know, put a bullet in Frankenstein to use your metaphor right the playing field for people too in a

huge way. Like I love to see how like a Lala Milan or a DC young Fly, how some of these creators have been able to really use social media to get the platforms that they have now. But then I hate qing on and then I hate the fact that there was an attempted cool of the government on January. So it's like, I really feel like we're headed do some orson wells war the world type because of nobody cares about the truth on social media when the lives

more entertained. Well, I think confirmation bias is a thing, and that's the oldest time. People want to hear what they agree with and they don't want to hear what they don't agree with. Just give me the keys to the nuclear code. Just tell me. Just give me and I can just go in and delete pages. That's it. I can do that. I got time. It's a lot of people, it's a lot of I got it. Just

give me the keys to the nuclear code. But the concerns you have, like I said before, we had those concerns about every major new technology, particularly around the ones that change how people communicate. One of the big concerns about writing when it first existed was that there was no one there to disagree with you. Well, those people get held liable though, Like you can sue an author for playing the defamation. That's why they take to change

names in books and things of that nature. But for certain issues, yeah, But for other issues, no, you could say something, you can make a case for something that is really problematic in a bunch of different ways, put it out there and it doesn't violate along in any country. You can sue for defamation on social media too. Though, right,

if somebody says something about you that's defamatory and not true. Yeah, I think the question is who's accountable is the person who said it or the platforms or the platform And I think the platforms need to be held accountable for taking not just reasonable, but like meaningful measures to reduce these problems. I don't think it's sustainable for us to be accountable for everything everybody says, because if we were, we would have to take down so much content that

you would have a huge censorship issue. We appreciate you for joining us so little do I mean little Boozy's pages down because of nudity? Sorry do boh? I don't know off the top of that. I'll look it up though. Okay, well it's Adam, It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning to wake up. It's the Breakfast Club. Angela year here and my friends at the General Insurance give you quality car

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donkey of the day. They chose you the breakfast club bitch. Yeah, I had a day to day. What donkey to Dave goes to me? Okay, Leonardo mclvy ak Charlomagne and to God. I'm gonna tell you why now I'm a good, god fearing man with a criminal mind state Okay. Grew up on a dirt road in Monkst corner of South Carolina. Mom was a Jehovah witness English teacher. My father was an entrepreneurgro did everything from owning a fish market, the construction, the selling narcotics. It is what it is, It was

what it was. My mother kept a book in my face. I read everything from my book of Bible stories. To all you there, God, it's me Margaret side note. Judy Bloom sent me and my oldest daughter an autograph cop you of all you there, God, it's me. Margaret dropped on the clues bombs for Judy Bloom. Bro you can't shout that out with a mask. Okay. She signed it to Charlemagne and in parentheses Leonard, love you from your fan,

Judy Bloom. Thank you, Judy. Also side note to a side note, I ordered some penis enlargement pills and I've been taking them, and I've been chanting, I must, I must, I must increase my thrust. I explained it on this week's Brand Idiots podcast. Go listen, Now, what's my point here? My point here is that I come from the dirt all right, South Carolina, eight for three all day. That is always in me. Therefore, I will always love the ratchetness of life, even at forty two years old, married

with three kids and a receding headline. I love ratchetness. I still do hood rat things with my friends. We just do it at our houses are on vacation when the kids go to sleep. But the reason I'm giving myself donkey of to day is because this morning, when I was here by myself, I was talking about the domestic terrorists that you know hit the capitol, you know, Vanilla isis And I was still on a high after listening to all these good country rap tunes this morning

on title and I feel I feel stupid. Just listen to how I've been sounding this morning. I've talked my way out of enough home invasions to know when something is a setup. Okay. I don't even know who the trust in government anymore, but I know who I do trust, and that's no damn body okay. Period. And for some reason, I started to saying, that's on crip. But I'm not a crips. I don't even know why the hell I would even say something like that. All right, Sluth dollar

gangs out there, I'm driving in this morning. I heard you shout out all the gangs. Then I don't know why I said, I'm gonna be asking you, you know how I feelbody be talking like that's on crip and then I don't think about it, like I didn't even know crip. Why am I saying I'm walking in blue dollar gangs? Though, Mellow, I don't know what's going on to Pall held it down for the morning. Why everybody wasn't there, Man, it's about time. I don't know who died it made you six nine, but I don't know

who died and made me six nineties. And Mellow, it's quite a problems with all those statements. Number one, I don't gang bang, never having my life. I'm not a cript, not a blood either. I'm nothing. I'm a man who has therapy today at three pm. I'm a man who is scared to order a protein shake from around the corner and hear in tribecas because I feel like they keep giving me whole milk and not owning milk. And I don't have time to spend hours on the toilet

today and I get dairy bumps. My point was saying all of this, and the reason I'm giving myself donkey to day is because I just feel stupid, and donkey today is all about giving people to credit they deserve for being stupid. If you read my first book, the New York Times best selling Black Privilege, and you know one of my laws in my book was always give people to credit they deserve for being stupid, including yourself.

And that's what I'm doing right now. The reason I feel stupid is because I was writing in the work this morning, listening to the New South playlists on a title bro. There's some records on there that make my inner child smile. I mean, there are records on there that make the hood and me happy. Okay, I'm from South Carolina the eight four three eight or three eighty six four. When you come from a certain environment, there

is a certain energy that is always in you. And when you listen to certain music, certain music is so powerful and it would just have you feeling like you something you're not. Okay, that's what Pooh shysty guard Up did for me. Okay, that's play pool shasty guard Um. Let me here a little bit of that man comes up to bunt up on the key to car members of the early Somebody think I applied gold Team so

I can put them in my mouth. Okay, That's what Off the Porch by by by kid Glock did for me this morning, Evey, I was listening to the Roaring Twenties by Flow Million. Did my dog Little Boss from North Chalton, southcare Lotty. He's on the New South title playlist and you've got a song called I Know It. He from the same state as me. He from the Chuck. How could I not be influenced? Okay, how can I not be? You know what I feel like right now? I'm at the point where I'm like a wax on

minutes to society sleut to the good brother MCA. Make sure y'all check out that gangst the Chronicles podcast on the Black Effect. I heart radio Network. I'm like a wax. I don't did so much dirt that I just like to see other people do it. I like to hear, I like to feel it. I like to see it. But I'm not doing it, and you don't have to hear certain records and it takes you back to your old while out days. Yes, so I'm not alone here? Then, yeah, you are a little bit alone. I mean why why

why am I alone? Because you have a ski mask on and you've been saying on slide you judging me some on God? Why are waiting a gun? Happy and fake gun? You're right, let me put that away, Okay, I'm just saying it really makes you think about the influence this music is having on the youth, because they influenced my big grown ass this morning. But not because they might rap about violence of doing criminal activities and

gang stuff, but because it's fun. It's just fun. I mean, listen to these country rapus play some of that key clock off the porch. Just listen. It's like, Hey, I jumped off the porch. Then I jumped in the book. I used to wrap this piece and now I got a new coopet humble, but I'm playing it out cool, but don't get this shit on the news. Hey, come on home, man, But hey, play some of that flow Milly Roaring twenties, and I'm gonna tell you something. You know,

I'm all about to sacred masculine and the divine feminine. Okay, this right here is for the divine hood ratting all of us play some of the rowing attorneys by floor Millie, okay, making me feeling. Come home man, that for all the negroes that want to do the Busteed challenge. But our needs not what they used to be. Okay, okay you hey, play a snippet of my dog little Boss. Okay, I

know it South Carolina all day. Come on now, she said, like when I saw something first one I woke up and I said, I know more now she said, she like counster and I'm getting that money And I said, I know It're like got that bag on back and that's funny, man, And they're like at that scrap on because I know that they after me. That's when I saw some now and do you feel me fly on trap? Okay, you do it, yo, dramas on guiding them. Give me the biggest he hall okay and take me to court

right now. This guy forgot these forty years old, has three forty two, it has three kids. I need to go to breakfast club called put me on trial right now. Make me sit in my old ass down somewhere. Ladies and gentlemen call us up right now. Eight hundred five A five one than five one now, Charlomne the guy a k A. Leonard mckelby, a k A fake ass crift ak A fake ass live a k A six D reincarnated. Does he have a problem right now? Is he to be having music influenced him like this? Right now?

He has a ski mask on. He's been saying bad black with his little shoot two two two gun that he has in his hand. That's a fake gun. That's his finger. I'm holding his sideways too, then what it's throw with him? Right now? You'll stay away from me? Eight D five A five one than five. Is this guy too oh to be having music influenced him like that? Oh? Way too? Only be having music influenced us like that? Because I can take what um gang stuff with um blood,

what um cub um gang. What I'm saying, you take take it by ba ba bay, that's right to take it back to dirty queens. And that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about, all right. It's the breakfast club, go morning. She she came, but she's gonna slide right to my side. I ain't know. She pulled up with her friends. Then we skirt off in the bend. Took her back to my crib, and I regretted. She trying to feel like she asleep, so she tried to stay

the whole week. I'm like, whole Nah, she gotta go ask me a name as well. I don't even know. They want to know why to kill them. They by them. I ain't green. They might your ship about me. They want to know why I didn't love them so much? Like what is the reason? It's just the vibe dot com. She but herles in the sky whenever I look. She got her clothes off from the book and she won't

waste no time for you know and nobody else. I know, but I ain't can't be what she wants, stay or have the same story they I'm gonna mee to themselves. But I'm a jealous to see thee my palace. What I'm gonna do because I want she and she and she and they loved them some me. I ain't agree. They're gonna say, bite you. I ain't you gotta lie to I ain't even do that. You could trust on speaker when you're with your people, because you know the timing. I'm home. I ain't wanna she and she and she

and they loved them some me. I can't even speed to all them. So I call her on the FaceTime. She gonna pick up on the first ring. We gotta rather my damn finger. I will ever tell us so on on on Girl we Bro Life of a Goddess. It's topic top the phone called eight hundred five eight five one oh five. Want to join it to the discussion with the breakfast club. Talk about it morning, everybody in stej Envy Angela, yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are

the breakfast club. Now if you just joined as Charlemagne came to work this morning, a little um under the influence, yeah, under the under the influence of country rap tunbs. Okay, I deserve to be in breakfast Club Court. This morning, I feel stupid. I've been in here gang banging on the radio and I just feel like I'm too old and still be influenced by music. Ital I promise you. It literally was the New South Playlist on title listening to stuff like key Glock off the Porch and my

Man Little Boss. I know it and you know, pooh shsty guard up. It really really, really really took me to a place that I absolutely enjoy. Yeah. So so we're asking if Charlemagne, are we all too old to be uh influenced by me music? Right now? I don't think so. Bro, you know what I'm saying. I really don't And I have no reason for saying that other than I just really enjoy it. Are we going through

a middle life practice? I don't think so. You still, you know, like Charlemagne, you have a ski mask drink drinking Starbucks? Like? What is that? It's called balance? Is that a boogie gangster? Like? What it's called balance? Think? Game bankers don't need caffeine, But I don't know you need energy to do a drive by too? Okay, you think I have just put money on people's head without uh, you know, a little latte Okay, Hello, who's this? This is hey Virginia. You know you know your boy's up

here with a ski mask on, drinking a latte. I love it with a pinky in the AD's a little weird. We have to lift, we have to do. I'm for three. I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, I'll be in my car and sometimes I'll be you know, I could be a fuck I could be a sweetheart. But listen, keep doing it. Thank you, baby, That's what I'm talking about. Jackie Killed, Florida. Hello, who's this guy's crazy? John? Hey? John? What are you

calling from? Called from Florida? Yell? You know what, I don't think it's a good thing when you got a bunch of Florida people around. John Charlota Mane has a ski mask on on right now, he's drinking a latte with his pinky in the finger. I don't know what he wants to do with that pinky. I don't know, but but you think his ass is too old? Fallers, man, sit your old ass down somewhere. Man, how old are you, sir? I'm thirty three. Oh you're thirty three? Okay, you're still

living out your old wild out days. You're still cheating on your girl. I did that. I did that when I was swing. I got arrested phot times and one year. Congratulations. What was the biggest charge? The biggest one was a home invasion. What music were you listening to when you did that home invasion? I'm for Florida, man, I listen kind of stuff. Man, y'all, I don't even know applies. Okay, you know probably Kodak. Now that was that was a while ago. That was a while ago. All right, go

that's the middle school that there. But you got your life together now? Yeah, definitely definitely that you got a family. You're right that boy, brother, thank you? You know what got that? When you say that once you once you see that, once you add that you got a family. That's like when a gang banger say on God and them, he gonna do something to you want somebody tell you, sit you all down, you got a family. That's when you get back through reality. He right, Hello, Christian out

of fully Hey, Christian out of Philly. Good morning Christian. Now, now Charlottagne, is ass too old to be wilding out to this music? No, I don't know that's what you're supposed to be doing. Listen, it's balance of life. It's the yang and the yang, It's the drug deal and a professional because every morning I'm listening to King King Vond, I'm from fully and I'm not from I do that every morning and then I do my professional nine to five and when I come home with Zaca, Jackal Felliman

and all of that. So you need balance, a balance. I agree with you. Ratchetness and righteousness is the right exactly. I'm with you with music too. I'm with you because because I did the same thing. I woke up this morning, I meditated, I had my beads in my hand, I was doing my mantras and then I'm going to therapy at three o'clock. But when I was dripping in the work, it was them country rap tunes. Bro Listen, We're moving a weight, were moving away. I really like that work.

All up and down ninety five. We got our page and waves. We are professionals. With our parents, we have our pta, they love us, but we curved up. That's what you gotta do. What you you, Joe, you sell drugs in the morning, right hair for me doing it, and that's right. She's representing for all the people out there who still want to do the Bucket Challenge, but that needs not what they used to be. But we out chair babies because I'm a mama and I'm not

posting it. Hey, let's go Hello. Who's this? Yo? The kids? It from Arcosol? Gag game? Bro? What's up? Bro? How old are you can't I'm putting brokay ban see y'all day. I'll bank that see y'a all day. I don't even know what that means. What's that means? Bro? That's that's right Christ? With that? I thought the seeds for Christ all day. So when you're banging the Christ, when you're throwing up that that seat for Christ? Hey, south gang, what do you listen to? I listened to I ain't

gonna lie Young Thug, whole lie. I listen to Drake. I listened know. I ain't gonna lie. You know, I told some uh, I thought some maybe y'all Adams maybe? And I like the balance. I love the balance King from Young Thug to Orlanda Adams. I love the balance. Now you you got you nine? Charlotta made forty two. Charlotte maybe be banging out this every morning? Yeah he can, he can he can have balance. He can bang right, bang left. That's right in the middle, right, right, middle. Yo,

you can tell his daughter Joe kid clean kitchen. That's right on this on the set, Oh my goodness, on the set. You better have that kitchen clean. Hello. Who's this? Yes? Hi? Right? Listen this from the dead be in Ohio now in Charlemagne too, only be Gang Gang in this morning. I'd have to second emotion, yes, but I have to add myself put too. I'd be thinking, I'm just ratchet. You talk about Luda Pete popping. Oh my god, I'm thirty three years out with two kids that I had me going.

I ain't ever peep popping out life. But I can't work talking about Gucci and Jeezy, I'll be talking I'm about to shoot somebody when I'm made years off. No, yes, you do have your momas. They do influence. Shoo. Now listen, Jeez and Gucci. That was our error. We were still in our old wild out days when they was in their prime. These new these these new negroes different, these new Negroes to take you someplace even further than Jeez

and Gucci. Them didn't they're telling you they didn't have you on way literally and don't you and don't act like you ain't never did no people off because you said you got three kids. Okay, honey, I got to and I have, but I don't know how to do it on my hand stand. Clearly don't know how to do something that man whoever you like. Then, baby daddies you got to do eli. They're doing fluid doing fluid from and I have my rapting moments too when I've

been a food bus driker for eight years. The them baby daddys you got released their ancestors in you for a reason. You know how to pop something on something? Honey. Yes we're not on the hand stand right but on a back dad stand. Okay, I'm telling you all right, well don't move. Happy Holidays. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. All right, Well, you got a

positive note positive notice simply this. Maybe you're not healing because you're trying to be who you were before the trauma. That person doesn't exist anymore because there's a new you trying to be born. Breathe life into that person. Breakfast club you finish with, y'all dumb