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Happy New Years Eve! Today on the show we flashed back to when we had Young Thug stop by for the very first time, and spoke about growth, new music and even squashing his beef with Charlamagne. Also, we flashed back to when Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to relationship "guru" Derrick Jaxn after he was caught cheating on his wife. Moreover, we flashed back to when Lil Nas X stopped by for the first time and spoke about being unapologetic, new music, and trolling the haters.

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Dan, everybody come to the breakfast Club. I call this the hot seat. You are I'm not even dealing here. I'm so bad? Are you so bad? The world's most dangerous morning chel d j N this bitch angel I stay in everybody's business, but in a good way. Charlemagne the guy the ruler rubbing you the wrong way. The breakfast club ain't for everybody. Wake up, wake up, wake y'all, as this is you're time to get it off your chest with your man of blank. We want to hear

from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this? And what's up? Forty four year old? He's going on, what's up? My ge? Hit it off your chest? Yeah, just real quicktion dolla, man foody out of the water with that one waking up in the morning and just chucking some brucktos down that that's crazy for man who doesn't fart in his own close. I don't fight, I definite, I definitely don't fight my own clothes. But when I'm home

on the weekend. When I'm home on the weekend and then I wake up on a Saturday morning, Sunday morning, when I wake up, breakfast is you know, usually already done. So yes, I go right downstairs and me yeah, crazy because the bacteria and I just swallowing down there. That bro, that's tricky. I just listen, Honestly, I do not feel right. Even if I get up to go to the bathroom and I'm going right back in bed, I still get

up and brush my teeth. But it's a habit. Hold on, you get up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom and brush your teeth in the morning. If I wake up on the weekend and it's like seven am and i'mnna get back in bed, I'll brush

my teeth. And also too after you if even if you do brush your teeth first thing in the morning, you're probably gonna drink some water or something before you drink some orange juice all liquid the horrible after brush it but not not what But that's fine, yah know, not exactly all right to put that out there, like okay, I'm with you, peace, Hello, who's this what I'm getting

off your chest? First off, I just want to say shout out to Charlotte Lane shut change and the biggest shout out to DJ mby M about five six years ago, you uh, you had to show a car show at the Highlight Stadium. I think that's what it was called. And I'm a performer and you got me to perform at your car show, and after that, I've been getting gigs, getting both my bread right, and I won't give you a big thank you for that, Vie Okay, all right,

well yeah, thank you Mann. Shout out my instagram. So if anybody wants these my performances in't royalty in dot royaltyr Instagram, I appreciate. Hello. Who's this is? How you doing? What's up? Broke it off your chest? Hey? I want to give a big shout out that you know leisure because these guys have been given out free games every consistent week on the internet and not too many people and a couple of times a week done last That

man is the goal I saw Ian yesterday information. He does not mint on this information because he knows what he's talking about. And I really wanted to get an information to all my brothers because we are the ones just gonna make a difference in this world, and all of these players gonna make a difference is if we go out there and start grinding and listening to earn earn your lesia Ian Dunlapping. Don't forget the Wall Street Trapper now, salute to the Wall Street Trapper. Absolutely shout

to them. I just spoke to them actually, like maybe twenty minutes ago. They're actually on their way to Nigeria. E y yelling, Yeah they're going out. This they're going out. And spoke to them. So Weston brothers the best to look out in uh Nigerian and I think they had in the Egypt after Hello, who's this? Hey? Good morning Stevie, Steve. Stevie Steve. What I'm getting off your chest? Brow much? You're doing good? Less black and Holly favored? How you

doing king? Um? Nothing, ma'am. I'm doing good. I mean my birthday coming to this weekend. I'm gonna give myself a birthday shout out. Brother. Yeah, turning thirty one? No, hey, ain't doing too much? I old you say third one one? Yeah, as young as hell, bro, especially I'm forty three. That's yeah, you got a lot more to go. Ain't doing too much? Nah,

I was still mixing at thirty one. I'm chilling, man, So you're just chilling this weekend now, Like I'm trying to go skating trying to do something I'm trying to do when I was young. That's cool. I'm from I'm from Delaware. I called a couple weeks ago. I'm trying to get on you Masters comedy. Yeah, remember I get my comedy page. I want to check me out. Oh yeah, I remember? Okay, all right, well happy birthday, halfend skating? Oh yeah, oh yeah, you're ye. Give out your name again, Steve,

Steve Comedy. Okay, Instagram, I remember, Okay, got hello? Who's this? Hello? This is to me. They's definitely get off your chests. I just want to say that, even though I'm going to a breakup, I'm still glass. So I just want to tell people to give their head out, even a bad day only last twenty four hours. I'm also I want to say Charlemagne that his books are helping me a lot. Great. Oh, thank you, thank you very much. I would really really love if you follow me on

the Instagram. I love you so much. You will mean a lot to me. I got you, got your Instagram, Tessie. Yeah, and I'm gonna put you on hold. I'm gonna put you on hold and get your address. I'm gonna send you something. I'm gonna send you, um doctor to Walker, the unapologetic guy in the black mental health and I'm gonna send you up so much. Yeah, I'm gonna sending you resumementic in my grandmother's hands to it because those books really helped me. So oh, thank you so much,

handling man. I really really appreciate that. Ye, hold on, I got you, hold on, get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club the morning, the Breakfast Club. Hey what get pick up the mother mother phone and die. This is your time to get it off your chest whether you're mad. Last, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club, so you better have the same energy come out this. Hey,

my name is Magnetic Show one grade. I want to talk to y'all about about somebody on Instagram. He claimed here a rapper. How y'all doing it? Oh my god, it's magnificent one Drea about So this dude name is Joe. He tried to scare me for thirty bucks for a beat. I sold him and I put them on. I put him on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, it's on my story it's on there and all that, y'all can go see it and all that. You saw them a b for thirty

dollars and he didn't pay for it. You know. He tried to scare me for door dash and he came up. But then he came into my Instagram like, hey, you see that thirty dollars I got you for. I'm like, yeah, the one they didn't go through. I leave it, okay. Yeah, So I just want to let y'all know these little rappers out here, they scammers. They try to get you for the little money. You know what I'm saying, But it never worked, you know what I'm saying. But hey,

Charlotte Man, I love what you say. King I was saying, Charlotte Man, I love your show. I downloaded Paramount specifically for your show. I love it. And Lily listen to your little service all the time. Thank you, Uh DJ Intervie man, listen, I love your show. I love Breakfast Club. Y'all do a wonderful job. Sound love us. I appreciate it every day. No, all right, well, thank you bro. Already no producers, no rapper stealing money from you, shall

prosper you remember that, sir, Hello, who's this? Yeah, it's John, John what I'm getting off your chest? Hey, good morning y'all. I want to stay like Howard. They the only that's uh doing grammar stuff to the students. I got um. I coached football. I was a high school college high school coach. I ended up leaving my position to come coach and an Ahu and I literally didn't get paid from August third until the day I quit, which this

last week. What I don't even want to do it right that because I got a lot of black pride, but true, damn, I'm sorry to hear that. Brother. Yeah, man, uh, and like it's it's crazy because you want to support you know what I'm saying, your own your own kind. But at the end of the day, they do your worthday, you know what I'm saying. The p w asses. But I mean it's not not to make any excuses. P

wis make a lot more money. Yeah, they get a lot, but you should have definitely gotten paid for your work. I mean, I don't even understand how that's possible. Absolutely, man, it was insane. But I appreciate you out of time. Why did you are you ever going to get your money? How does that work now, he said, he got to feel. What happened was it was four people in my position. One of them quit and then he got paid. Rap that he quit. The other three of us were still

working like that. When we look at I checked, and we kept working. You know, I said, another month pass, I end up quitting and then I got paid. Okay, So like nothing if like they're trying to put you to quick, that's so weird, that's crazy. I'm glad you got your money finally though. Yeah, the free labor, Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you, albrighty man, get it off your chess eight, don't you five eight? Five one on five one hit us up right now. It was the

Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlottagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guests in the building right, the Wall Street trap But what U brother was God was good? Was good? Was good? Family? How everybody done? Blessed Black and Holly favor. In fact, for people who don't know who the Wall Street Trapper is, you might have heard

him when the earn your lead your podcast. I missed you that week, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll go back home a lot. So I had went back to New Orleans to be with my daughter when you can. Yeah, yeah, miss you. That matter ballum talking to you about that, dude, definitely. Yes, it's been eighty five South Show, Calllos and the crew.

I appreciate those d Yeah yeah yeah. Let's breakdown while you the Wall Street Trapper well man first and almost let me say this man, Charlotte, Man, I want to tell you, man, I appreciate your brother. You the first black man I ever heard talk about mental health and um, just coming from WHI I'm from New Orleans. Man. You know I saw my moms get shot when I was nine. Um, I want I'm going to prison at sixteen for shooting a man and just being in the hood, coming up

in the streets. Man, you never knew how trauma affects you. So I really got a therapist, not man. Wow. So I want to tell you, man, I appreciate you for that. Love King, I appreciate you for that m Yeah. Just the Wall Street trapper. Man grew up in New Orleans, Man, some of moms get shot, went to prison, all that stuff. My story ain't no different. To many other people, but just in prison I got introduced the stocks. White guy

told me this. I had just had a fight with two of my soul call friends, man, and he had a look of frustration on his face, right, and he was just like, man, y'all playing the wrong game. And in my mind, I'm like, Hi, we playing the wrong game? Are you were here with me? But he told me some profound stuff. Man. He said, so I had a red band on so in the waters the red band means attempt murder, the murder on Robert car Jack and viting the fence. And he had a raided white band on,

which mean he was going to the fads. And he was like, I can almost promise you your in here for something less than one hundred thousand dollars. And I was like for sure. And he was like, well, I embezz with two point eight million from my company, pay a restitution at eight hundred thousand. I still kept two million. I'm only doing eighteen months. He was like, how much time you have? I was sixteen at the time. I

had ten years. He was like, now you understand. I was like, man, you're lying, man, got that much money. One thing about being in prison, you always have your paperwork with you. So he showed miss paperwork. I see it in black and white. She's showing me the places he'd been to. And I'm like, yo, I need to play that game, Like what is that? And he was just like, listen, one of the first things you got to stop doing is like, stop trading your time for money.

Start learning to make your money work for you. And then he tells me, wealthy people invest in stocks, they start a business, and then they buy real estate. You do those three things, your life would change. So the rest of my ten years, I dedicated myself to like, yo, I just gotta learn how to play it. Started dedicating myself to reading. And I was like, damn, like different, I see a bunch of white men making a whole lot of money, Like why have I never been taught this?

Like why we never taught this? And just coming back home from prison, Mike Tyson said, the best man, everybody got a plant. They get punched in the face. Right. So I got back home, I got this idea. I see it. How do I get money? Like I get back in the streets. That's what I knew how to do. My gram went to the fis my mom, Like, this is what I knew how to do, This is my environment.

No matter what I knew, I gotta get money. So I get back in the streets man, And just in that whole process, I'm like, all right, cool, this is what it is my mind. I'm gonna just use my hustle mother to investment stock movie like this harm thinking it's gonna work. Kind of didn't go that way. I catch another charge the NRCH kick my doing ten pounds a week ten thousand dollars. I was facing another thirty

five years that cost me sixty thousand dollars. So everything that I had invest I mean it worked for in the streets. I hadn't lost it again. So man, just God came to me one day and he was like, man, are you playing the wrong game? Like and it just I had epiphanis. I was like, all right, cool. So I still didn't get it, dude, because I got back in the streets. But this time I count hustle. So I started robbing, you know, hustlers, like that's the next best thing for me in my mind, Like the streets

is what I knew how to do. And then I just all right, let me do something then, so I just started reading it again. I always was a smart dude. I'm like, all right, let me just try it. Then, so I started really getting into it, like I know this makes sense, Like, damn, I see why they don't teach us this. It's powerful, Like seventy percent of everything that we use and consume, what our money is on the stock market. And I started teaching my homes and I was like, all right, how do I make it

realistic to them? How do I make them tap into it? Right? So I can't talk to everybody, but I can talk to the street dudes, like I can talk to them something like, Yo, check this out. If you go do a bid, which is gonna happen, what do you come home to, Like, you gotta get back in the streets. You gotta get it out the mud again. So if you had money invested for you when you come home, you got money. You don't got to ask nobody from

no handout. Like, so let's start thinking bigger, pitching on what happens if you get killed in the street, because most of us need to go to jail or we get killed. What do you leave your kids? Like, let's start making it makes sense. So the goal for me was to never tell you get out the streets. It was to start saying, let's start thinking about our family now, like let's start thinking about something bigger than us. And nobody never came to us like that. So that was

my whole avenue. And so the Wall Street Trapper was me just saying, let me turn the trapper word into something positive instead of always been about dope, instead of always being about hustling. And I knew my voice for who I was talking to. I never wanted to talk to nobody else. All Right, we got more with the Wall Street Trapper. When we come back, It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy

and July Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with the Wall Street Trappers. Charlomagne, mister trapper, what was the first amount of money you invested into the stock market and what the stock was it? It's ten thousand dollars. I invested in four probably the worst investment I made in the beginning, because I was just going off of everybody got a Mustang. This before I learned the fundamentals um and I realized that it

was a bad company. I did that too. I brought you involved to Yeah, I thought that it was a bad company, but you get me in on them now. I wanted to. I wanted to do under arm because in my head it was Steph Curry was endorsing it, and I was like Steph Curry's attached to I felt comfortable about at that time. I did still come back. It did good for a couple of months. And then so I own a company called Lulu Lemon. Now when you said you own a company, you invested a company,

you call yourself ownership. But now I'm my owner. So I'm glad you said that when you buy stock in the business, you are part owners at that point like non Disney, Yes you are. I teach my list. I teach my daughter that. Now now I teach my daughter that. I was like, stank, you own two hundred and fifty shares of Disney. She was like, Daddy, I own Mickey Mouse. I said, you dwn right, like you get voting rights, Like they send you emails like Yo, this is what

it's called in a proxy statement. Yo, this is we're doing. This is what this is what we lost money at. This is how we plan on making money. Oh and by the way, we're declaring a fifty cent divid than that's to you as an owner of stock. You are now entitled to a portion of the profit that that business makes. What makes you better is the more ownership you have the mosai so you have you feel what I'm saying as with anything so instarted under Armer, like I bought Lulu Limit because I felt it was a

better business. But that worked out for you. But even so, like you do real estate envy. Like what people don't know is like you can get into real estate in the stock market right through. It's called real estate investment. Trust reads right, So just think about this, wal Mart, Amazon, they're not in the real McDonald's, they're not in the real estate business. So safe. But they can go to somebody and say, yo, I need a warehouse made a

thousand squeet by one thousand square feet. The people gonna come to them and say, okay, cool, we'll make the will build it for you, but you have to sign a lease with us triple that least, right, And that's just simply saying I'll provide the building you pay all the bills right. So now as an investor, I can say I own the company who wear Amazon pays rent to. I own a company that Walmart pays rent to seventy eleven. I own a company called Old Reality. Right, they pay

dividends every month. They own seventy eleven Walgreens, Planet Fitness Home Depot, so I own the people they pay rent to. So essentially you can still get into real estate that way. What do you think you would be if you didn't go to jail. I tell people that's the most important part of my life. I would never take that ten years back like I did it. You can't. Time is our most important asset. But for me, that elevated my who I am as a man, who I am as

a father to another level with I will prison. There is no law street trap. I asked that question because,

like I always say, prisons aren't real correctional facility. But if there was actual teachers there instead of the guy that you was, you know that was that was They're doing a bit with you, somebody that could actually plant seeds and you and Trapper, won't you come do this stock exchange thing for real and go to classes while you're here, you could come out of better human but we need people like you that I'm really trying to get back in prisons right now, Like that's something like

I'm heavy. I was talking about guy Andre normal, Like yo, I need to get back in the trap for real.

Like I am my brother's keepers in a way, because once I had a knowledge and I don't teach it to him, then I'm at fault, not him, you feel me, So I started holding myself accountable for teaching my brother's stuff, and so I had to relearn a whole bunch of stuff, like my actions, my ways, my demeanor, me seeing another black man not looking at him like I got something against him, but looking at him like what's good, king are you doing? Like how can like let me let

me diffuse it? Early that dialogue it changed, so now you're receptive to what I got to say. That's why I love your story because it literally just shows all you got to do with poor we're in the brothers and sisters man like we just because you grew up in a certain environment. We're not setting our ways, but I just don't know any other way. That's it's learned behavior.

Thank you for joining us. Thank thank you. Give me information Instagram or for show man, Wall Street Trapper on Instagram is wall Underscool Street Underscore Trapper um and on YouTube is just Wall Street trapping. Man. Check me out. I dropped a lot of information every day all day on Instagram and YouTube. So just just hol at me man. Let's get it. Let's trap big trap. All right, well,

let's the Breakfast Club is Wall Street Trapper? Appreciate y'all man, It's topic time called eight hundred and five eight five one oh five. Wanted to join it to the discussion with the breakfast Club talk about it, wanting everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Yee Shalloween the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now if you just joined us, it's Friday, so you know what that means, frigg Priday. Yes, and the freaky freaky, freaky Friday question comes from Tucy, who

stopped doing and we were talking about this. Do you think that five minutes is the right amount of time to have sex? Hell? Yeah, five minutes is enough time. Like I ain't saying like five minutes enough time. We're just gonna go for five minutes and we done. But I'm saying like five minutes enough time to get the job done for absolutely. So eight hundred five eight five one oh five one is five minutes enough for sex? Now, Charlemagne says, yes, no, what no, let me let me

say this. I'm not saying. I'm not saying five minutes is the ideal time. What I am saying is, if you're doing it right, five minutes is more than enough. That's almost two boxing rounds. Okay, everybody can get off in five minutes? Does this include four play? How are you talking about? Everybody? This is sex? Four play? You got you only? What do you do? Like what Nipplin? Then go straight to the vagina? Like what are you doing?

M what's throwing that direction? Why have that route wrong? Know, I'm just asking if that what's wrong with that route? I mean that the route? But don't you spend time on the on the on the fourth play? Don't she spend time on years? And I ain't about to tell all my business, but you know, everybody don't like five minutes. All I'm simply saying it's five minutes is enough for

everybody to get off, okay, because somebody's faking it. Because I'll tell you what I'll tell you what she probably if I go downtown like s WV says, if I go downtown like like f WV says, they did not say it like that, and I do four minutes right, and wife gets off? I only need forty five? Tell you how you know she's faking it? And she started doing this, Oh yeah, that's great. Hurry up, like well, not hurry up, but you say things to try to

make him hurry. There's other things the body does that you know, she she she really got off, Okay, but you don't. I don't want to say what those things? You know, the bunky you don't? You know, like you just go anyway? And how long do you laugh? Don't town, you don't. That's not downtown, man, What do you think it's a good amount of time? I say, for a full twenty minutes? Twenty minutes that's everything that's four play and everything included. You see your hand like this, why

are you doing everything? Later? Listen? But if it includes? But this is what I'm talking about, right, How long did it take to get off? Not? I think I think it's quicker for guys, and it takes longer for women because even like biologically it's just a fact, it takes a lot longer for us to get to that point. It takes more for play for y'all. You guys are

just go you know what you know. But I do feel like I think a good like twelve minutes is a good amount of time, great time, because it's not like sometimes it's too long and you'd be like, all right, my show's about to come on, and what sort you just feel cheated? You feel like and I just did all this for five minutes. I don't think y'all understand time. I think with y'all, if y'all listen to Angelie said, that makes perfect sense. Twelve minutes is four rounds of boxing.

These extra missing fights is only six rounds. That's a long time. By the sex is not boxing. I just wanted to put that out. Yeah he heep was comparing to the boxing. You don't kiss Charlomagne. You don't. I look, I said, kiss Charlomagne. Look at me, crazy, look at you like your boxing. And that's an issue, okay, problem five minutes. I'm not saying five minutes is an ideal time. I'm just saying five minutes enough, that's all I'm saying. Let's go to the full lines. Hello, who's this Miss Mary?

Hey Mary, Come on Mary, Miss Mary? She said, is Mary mac mac mac all dressing and black? Remember that? Oh my goodness, I know it's five minutes enough time for sex? Mama, very No, what's your magic number? Seven? That's God's number, God's number. My minutes seven for both of y'all. Two that's two boxing rounds. I knocked you out at the beginning of the third. I haven't sat on me, but I would say, give me like those Yeah, yeah, I said, on both sides. That's good man. Five minutes

and fifteen seconds. These movies and these songs gassed us up. When we was young. We thought we're supposed to be having sex all night long. You know what I mean? Anybody got time for that? Okay? Two minute? Man? Hello? Who's this? How you doing? Man? I'm Robert Ory freaking because of Robert Horney. Ok I know where this is? All right, Robert Horney, it's five minutes enough for sex? Oh yeah, I mean, if if it don't the round one, don't last, if it last, if you don't have to

walk for wait the round. But you're say you're going another round? Oh of course. I mean if I ain't got it, like I mean this ways around that I ain't gotta like go stop what I'm doing, start eating, against waking what's wrong? Back of that, back up. So you're saying that if it's not fine, if if it lasts month in five minutes, that means that she's no good. I'm not saying she's no good, no better. It's something

to this. I tell people this all the time, Like you know what I'm saying, Like if you if a man is having sex with you, four hours something wrong. Hoursbody's saying hours. But there's a big difference between five minutes an hour. Because I also felt like guys should also be able to know what did they call it? Edging? Right? How to get there? But then you pull back, Then you get there again, then you pull back. You know, you got to stop for a second or change that sound.

That's exactly. But if I don't have to, it's not even true. It's not true. It's impossible. You don't even stop lying, y'all. There no such thing is edging. When that thing coming you hear me, okay, you can't stop the bum rush. When he's like, don't move, don't move, don't move absolutely, yeah, you can. It does not teach you a couple of things. Charlotte Mage, that sounds I don't know what You're just taking this too far. Gosh Corporate told Scott help dial back on the kinky. Right,

all right, you're gonna have to stop doing this to me. Okay, he's gonna teach you some edging. I can show you some thing, Charlotte Mane, you know how to drive stick? I can't learn. Don't move, don't move? Oh my goodness, hello, who's this? Yeah? This is my mind, he said, He said, Mondo, monto, what's up? Mindo? Tell him? How? Five minutes is enough time? King?

Five minutes? Five minutes is definitely enough time. You just want to me gonna get, But it ain't enough time to make a sexual connection with the girl, right, it's not enough time if you care, right, if somebody cared about you, that'll be the longer than five minutes. But you ain't gonna you ain't gonna You're not gonna learn anything about her body. Ain'tything like that. That was your girl. You give me, But same time she's gonna get, you're gonna get a give me we got like damn my girl,

we got four kids. Get out for the mother kids coming the room. God damn, I want with my parents to be like we made you in five minutes. I think this, I think I think this conversation is going a little in the wrong direction because we're not saying five minutes is the ideal time. We're just saying five minutes it's enough for both parties. Yea, the ideal time. No, you can't have you can't get it. You can, but I don't think that should be the goal. Yeah, that's

not the goal. Well, the goals to get it. Yeah, I'm with Nick nigas Nick the Carrs, and the goal is to get it. You're with Nick. If she gets it and I get it, then we've got it. That's it, and the game is over because you know, I'm forty two first round knockouts for me because there ain't no other rounds. Yeah, I'm with you, ain't no other animal. Animal is expensive? Bullets expensive when you're forty two. Okay,

all right, Well, what's the moral of the story. Like I said, five minutes may not be the ideal time, but I think it's enough. Fair body, let's all shoot to the ideal. Yeah, there you go. That's all. We got more coming up next to Don't Move, Happy Holidays, Don't Go Anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club. Yeah, i'st Worst Davis Morning Show to Breakfast Club, Charlomagne and God Angela ye, dj Envy, and we got a special guest in the building his first time on

the Breakfast Club. Do we call you mister slime, mister Williams, mister thug, mister sex, mister sex sex sex. Okay, how are you, sir? I'm happy to see you here. Man from It's it's been a long time. We'll keep you away from the Breakfast Club all these years. I don't know. I think this mean you're miss understanding God Freak in the room first though, because you and Charlemagne had exchanged. I'm trying to remember. Even because that was so long ago.

I guess that was over bird Man initially. Yeah, yeah, Charlotage touching you boy to be that it was that was all talk, isn't it. I never understood like I could have seen so far. It's all we all just oh, absolutely no, it wasn't really like and then I was kind of young back then, though I would admit, like,

I ain't understand blocking. You know, back then I was so young and just like fresh in the game to the point I ain't understand this how important it is and how much you have to be how you is. Absolutely But I will say I made one of the worst hip hop predictions about ten years ago. When I did last TV. They asked me, they said, who's gonna be around longer? Rich On me Quan and young Thug, and I said, probably rich On me Quan. Clearly I was wrong, Clearly, clearly I was wrong. How you feel

about that? I mean, you don't get them all right? He was wrong? Yeah, I was definitely wrong. But then also too, I would you know, I would hear people in Atlanta talk about you from a street perspective. So I was like, well he seemed like he didn't too deep. Never too deep. You gotta have your head on, right, man. I just gang, you know, like knowledging, bro, you know, Oh it's evidence, you can see it. It came older, certain things you just I don't want to deal with. Man.

I kind of grew out of it, though, grew out of what just just feeling young and just like doing young, like arguing on it and yeah, they never really meant man back then. It did though, because I was just like new to the industry. That's why I was. I was so mad at you, just because I was like, I was fresh out of the ghetto. So seeing that type of b then you're like, what's gonna touch him?

And Charlemagne was like, I'm not going nowhere. He gonna kidnap me and torching me like that right after the bird Man to Charletmagne, We're gonna torch you. You boy, think you're gonna beat you. I ain't about to come to Atlanta. I'm gonna see if he's tough. I'm nowhere in the Atlanta after something like that. He got talked to burn Man like two weeks ago too. Man Bank put us on the phone together. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, came over. Yeah yeah, because I mean, listen, he from

the South, from just from the South. I respect that man. That man put a lot of money in black people's pockets. Now, I never want to get that Miskin screwed, you know what I mean. The crazy part is, even back then, I would always get calls from my folks in Atlanta, like Bro Doug, the real deal. Even even even before you even like popped off when you had like Stoner Round.

I think it was stone In. I forgot the other record, like rappers be in the studio with you're like many here with guns right now, And I don't know this is true. Somebody said you used to walk around with tampons in case you got shot. I swear a rappert I ain't gonna say the rapper name, but I swear a rapper told me that, yeah, in case you got shot, you could put the sound like something like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes exactly. Who said I don't ever think I was

at the point where I was preparing. I said to get pop to get shot, like I need a tampon, dings like I got one for you. How you knew it was him though, when you said ten years ago. He's one of the guys that kind of met me when I was, you know, on the rack you Got You Got You Got Coming artists. He met me back then. Ain't always he always tell people a funny story about me being in a radio station with Gone, But it wasn't on a stupid just like I damn never forgot

it I had on me in Atlanta. You know all laws are different, so like we got absolutely you don't have one on you now due Yeah, what would twenty twenty one tell twenty eleventh thug? You were right, like you saw all of this, like you saw you becoming to mogul with the music. Yes, I guess people can say even fashion icon. Yes, influencing the game with your with your music. I was always good at that, like

influencing um dressing. I was like the big dog in my hood, in my hood before rap I was sixteen years old, like running the whole hood. So I always liked I dealt with that my whole entire career. I still want to go back to the past because I want to talk about the Miffer young thug, because I used to hear so much about you. I heard that you was protecting the city of Atlanta basically after Katrina,

because it was people coming into the city. It was robbing folks and like killing folks, and you was on some like superhero of vengeance like protecting the city of Atlanta. About me, I honestly don't think nobody told you that. I promise you. I think you just think that like no, man, now you can look that was actually right, though, New Orleen boys, that's right. And it was right after Coatrina. They had like list of people they wanted to take out in the city and they was trying to store.

They was storing a few people. But it's just like I wouldn't I never wouldn't, like look for nobody, and they're like that. It just it ended up coming to an hour. That's what I heard her. I heard you was it was defense. It was her was all defense, dogs on the front lines, protecting the city of at This was before rap though. Yep. I'm only like eleven twelve, just my first probably had my first gun and like, but they said it was it was grown rappers coming

to you though, facts, how did that all sim it down? That? It just over time? Like yeah, so many people had ended up going to jail dealing with that. It was probably like twenty people that got life sentences. Wow about this this situation. When you look back on it, though, you can understand why. I guess you can understand why he was doing what he was doing because they were just kind of like starving and right, I respect it though, just growing up I don't respected that. Then I'm just like,

don't go away. Happen to your hood, don't care about nothing that not about to do that, but growing up like I would definitely did the same thing they did. They actually actually didn't do anything wrong, and you didn't do nothing wrong either by protecting it right, you think in general, when you first started doing music, they were pretty supportive of you. Yeah, I was already popular, butfore

I started doing music. At one point, I was popular for being the youngest me in Atlanta getting shot shooting people like I got shot. I think I was like twelve thirteen my first time a shot. Damn what happened? Are you don't feel like talking about? It was a shootout? So just put up an our hood, roll down the window. You know, it's so crazy. One of the guys, it's my best friend. You hear a Rabbert two? Right? No? Oh, okay twenty one. Now it wasn't him, though, it was

from his side of town. Now that's like, my best friend's shotting. How does that happen? Like, how does that transition to him becoming your best one of your best friends. He ended up going to jail like three times. Not for that. He can't ever go to Jeff or shoot me. He ended up going to prison like three times though, like doing like five years, three years, two years like that. I think I just grew hard from him because it because because of prison. I'm just like, just keep going

to prison. I can't even here this that ain't funny, man, you like the joker forever. The other thing they needed to say about it needs to be like yeah, I used to get called like no, listen, he's like the joker. I'm like a man, I'm actually warm hearted, Like I'm really calum, cool, good hearted guy. I'm like hand zoned. So I see like size of people that you probably

wouldn't see. I like the lesson and the fact that you know you and you and homie is cool now though, you know what I mean, because like a lot of a lot of young ns can learn from that, Like you don't got to always, you don't gotta be final with your ops all the time, and they don't got to start because like all this happened, like a few of them got shot, a few of us got shot. But now we're for in. So all that was for them.

Everybody jeopardized their life, everybody could have went to prison, and it was about and then all right, we got more with young thug when we come back, don't move. It's the breakfast club more wanting. Everybody is cj Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the breakfast club. We're still kicking it with Yong Fog Yee. Well, you're a very loyal person. So if somebody and your crew doesn't get along with somebody, that automatically means you don't either,

right or how does that work? Did you try to squash things? Yeah, yeah, I'll be the person to try to squash because I just like, I don't know, man, I'm getting older. I remember just like saying my mom cry with my brother dad. I'm like, I just don't want to see them about the crap brow people got families too. Yeah, yeah, my mom probably go to sleep five years straight my brother dad. You know. So I just I'm older, So I guess I just think about it any more. And you blessed, right, because a lot

of people don't. God don't give everybody that opportunity to even have that type of reflection, right, They even look back on it and be like, man, that was for nothing. He overgave us an opportunity. Like a few times we did a lot of dammy missions with millions dollars, did a few stupid that could have got everything to think about life without you. I think about all the people that you provide for, all the people you don't putting on. You don't help put him position. There's no you, there's

probably no gunn. It's probably no baby. Who know, right? Thank god? That's that's the other story, the other story that's true. Though, you gave baby money to get out the street. The rap just going to the hood. He liked money. If he can make five downs ten thousand every day, that's the only way he'll stay out the hood. If he can make them the same money that he's making in the hood. Because he's just sitting in the hood, he gonna make tenth downs twenty thousand every day, profit

or profit. What you see in a little baby back then, because he was still in the street fresh, What did you see in him back then? That said, nah, bro, I'm gonna I'm gonna pay you to stay out the screen and rap I was scaredful on him, like go out to the jail cause he just did. Yeah, he just did a bit. He got straight out of jail and went straight back to the same neighborhood, the same house that to pull that the police bust and locked him up. He went right back to the same house.

It was a spot, you know. But I also he was popular too. He was He reminded me of like when I was before a rap, because I was popular before a rap. He was poppling. He was popular too for a rapper. He was like getting a lot of likes on his Instagram and people like, oh, he got like nice as captions. Just I'm like, yo, you should

try him make a song. Bro crazy just showing him to life and like took him with me a few times everywhere, and he starts saying like, oh damn, it's easy, you know, because we got we grew up together too, so it makes me feel like it's easy. If he's seen me do he's seen me do every single thing. He's just like, yeah, I could do it. But I released the pages to go to the studio. How much he said, five a day. We're getting like five down,

two down, three doctor. He was a young so like I might be gone to late for three days, so like here four thousand. But he's still hustling. He's still getting really getting his own money. But he got Gamelon problem. Yeah, that all Camling problem. He for sure lost ten times more money than he ever had. Why not put him on ysl L wasn't established back then, Yeah, it was. I was dealing with a lot of like courts, I've done them so much, and I'm like, I ain't bring him. Naw,

you just got out of prison. What the same? Like man I got, I'm gonna tighten up. And I was like, man, you know what, let's take it to my buddy man Pe good guy, he's gonna focus. That's it. I mean, that's an honorable though, just to bring him to p and say I am it was literally signed to me. Good you had you in the kind of same situation, right, Yeah, he ended up going to prison. He probably like spent so many millions of dollars finding the case just to

get the three of four years that he did. He spent probably all of his mother money. So he just like sold somebody's assets. You know what I'm saying. I was just one of the assets. Okay, he's over to the label. You know, it's it easier for you to talk about things now that you're a little older and things are more in the past because I noticed on the album right you started off with Die Slow and you tell some personal things. It sounds like you're just

having a conversation. So how hard was that for you to make that decision to put that all out there? It was hard because and it's only because I just don't like people don't feel like they know me. I liked it better when Charlemagne just was like, damn, I wonder how he is right here? All these posed to Oh he's a cool guy, you know, because I mean it's dope though, because you have one perception to people looking and you're throwing people love, like why are you

doing that? Why are you doing that? But then you're hearing these stories and you're like, for real, So you me personally, you gotta believe the screet right better. You think Charlemagne back then, he wouldn't have saw me. I know how to avoid people. I think it would have been smoked or you think it would have came up to him or anything like a conversation. I believe you. I was really I was literally mad at you, and I don't know why shoot you and give you a tampon?

Shut up? I don't They would have been no guns in vote. We probably just got the argum like, no, I probably did something, your man. I'm telling you I used to get the calls they used to call me like Charlottagne. I'm telling you that he liked the joker. I don't like people trying to make it seem like I'm just I'll just cite that on Crazy. I probably it was. It was a woman that told me that. And she ain't say like that. She said, he's a great guy, the nice guy, but he's like the joker.

He'll be so nice and he'll check fire to the town who told you to walk him? Mom? No no, no, no, no, no, do somebody else. Yeah. Now you also said on die slow, you're seeking god soul because you know something's missing. What do you nigga missing? I just got a few problems still in my life. They're not even that big. They're just like they won't leave though, you know, And I think it's because it's like you thought you got to

know good but not it hasn't been that good. You know, it's not good enough to the point where he where he's like a couple of real problems, you know, because it's like, damn, why the hell am I still having these problems. I got everything, my people got everything, everybody got everything. I still got some problems, and that I thinking just it's just like I need closer to guy. You know the things that you you you're running from,

like things you're trying nothing to deal with internally. Maybe no, I'm grown black. I deal with it off top. Whatever problem might have, I deal with right then. If I'm a cry, if I'm a bitch about it, if I'm doing it that, I'll do it right now, as soon as as soon as happen, as soon as I noticed is a problem, I go ahead and deal with it. Once I stopped crying or like feeling down about it, I won't ever feel down about it. So I just

go ahead and deal with it. And the last time you cry, maybe like a month and a half ago, you remember for what? Of course, that's that's your business. You an't gonna shit if you don't want to. But why do you want to be on Done is so bad? I saw you say that you are? You called me so if I don't get on this album, it's gonna be a problem. It ain't now I want to be on it so bad. It's just like, bro, we got a hundred songs, putting them mother songs. I feel like

you're a billionaire. Like you at the point where it's like you don't need none of this. If I was a billion if I was Kanye West or jay Z, if I would just say I was jay Z or Kanye, I probably would have I would have more features than anybody in the world. If I'm at the point where I can know me being on your song and make it number one, I'm definitely getting on the song. That's what I respect about Drake. Yeah, you all got that number one song right now? Ain't genuinely do it? Way

too sexy? Was your concept? Though it feels like a Doug song. Yeah, came to the studio like fresh who like Bro, We're just in Steve talking, just like listening to the beats, the beat come on and Pluto just like, let's do sex. So we're just like free stating to each other. Then it's just like it just came about like that. I see you talk about the icons a lot. You feel like they don't they don't reach out to you the way you would want to. No, they don't.

They jam with all good people though I don't know why. Maybe they want me to just figure it out and just go through it, you know, so you can like learn actually learning and like respect it. Or maybe it's just like we're in the same league. I can't tell you this most of the time. May be I can't tell you I don't like that because I always spit

the beings le'n'a tell anybody anything that can help them win. Like, but you're ain't different though everything that might have worked for it may not work for you, right, But they ain't even about like what to do. It's just more about like being reminded or just feel in love. The ogs are like hands on, you know, because that's our young seen for like like ogs, they got their hands on. You got Drake playing every boy the part to drink

like the industry og for a lot of people. Yeah, I gotta put them right there Internet because of way he's saying the songs or none of that. It's because he with everybody upcoming artists the most. I got to respect it. He just know, like I'm how to say in the world, I can go number one, you can become a superstar by me doing this song or happening on your song. He actually know that and he do

it for those exact reasons. Holding everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still kicking it with young doge Elton John. You're on his album right, So you and Elton John, Now that's to me, that's interesting, all right, that happens. But a fan, Yeah, that's all I'm saying. You can freestyle better than m of course John like be a fan. The first thing he ever said when that man was when whopped it out? He said, he said, I'm not

a liar. Wow, Where did you meet him? Like, you gotta tell us how that connection even happen. Sample when you sample Rocket many I did a racket man. So that's the first time we ever got in touch. And he got a condo on Atlanta. So this is a weird. This is a story, Damn. I wanted to sure, please do tell it was a story about him his first lover. Now, he met his first lover in nineteen ninety one in Atlanta,

that's the year I was born. And the lover name was Jeffrey Wow right, and he helped him, like you know, stop everything he was doing and just like become a man and like it was just like a father figure to him. But it was his, it was his, it was his say it's partner. And he was a fan of goucher Man, so he heard me, I don't want to goucher Man songs. So he old schools so he just like pulled everything about it about you up. Oh

let whoa whoa whoa nice one way from Atlanta. Oh my god, what the whole background is the same as this x y. So he just like just start paying attention. But here a real fan. He really is saying the songs. So he hit you up, like, yo, pull up, I need to we need to meet and I'm in Atlanta. Wow you you were tip um y'all, y'all had a relationship before rap two, well before you was a rapper. Yeah. Yeah, he talk a lot of stuff, but he's actually like

one of the realist guys in the world. That's what I always wondered, Like, you know, it's hard for y'all, right because y'all come from a certain environment, but then y'all get to these levels and people don't necessarily may know the background, so then you find yourself maybe having to prove yourself sometime and this this rap game, right that just stay out of the way because like sometimes just chase you no matter how much you run, you know,

sometimes trouble just chasing you. Still. Yes, I've did enough in my life to to where it probably chase me for the rest of my life. Really, how do you make amends for that? Just dealing with it? Like whatever happened happens, made it bad, you know, lay it? Do you try to course correct things now by doing things, you know, like maybe pay off that karmic debt? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I've been doing that for at least like the last

seven to eight years. You know, some people just like you don't know me, so you look at me a certain way. Anybody who knows me, you know, like, oh he's too good and nothing probably wouldn't happen. Then he's like a good guy, you know, just gotta just be round. How much of Kevin Lives and Leo Cohen done for you as a man and artists? Oh not much. They gonna make your man Kevin Euso like here baby you sometimes but like thew York he made man man. I hated him one you really, but you used to be

with him though everything was just bad. My first deal was bad. Just signed a deal and then no one ever contact me, and it's just like coming in the streets, I'm just like you know, and like I'm like, it's just everything. It's just like you know, And then you're trying to pop off and then you feel like you old label. You know what I'm saying. You're like, I've been signed to him for like two or three years, but I don't even know nobody. I don't know one

person there but here a good guy. It took me like nine months a year to forgive him good your dad. So when you say forgiving what it's because of a bad contract. Yeah, I just seen from his shoes. It was like a brand new company. All he's doing at that point is just signed an artist, Like I'm just

building the roster, giving everybody the same contract. And do you think also, because like Charlomagne's heard all these stories about you, people have heard stories about you, you think that maybe they were intimidated to Charlomagne got the right to be like, yo, I don't want to be around. I feel like if me and you ain't head on, like hey, we're doing some on each don't we see each other. It's no way, that's you know, that's just Frank. You're just framing me at that point. You know what

I'm saying as opposed to him. Of course we got we had going on, like do we see each other, it might be it might be up. You know what I'm saying. I'm sorry for that too, Bro. I apology accepted. I apologize anything I said that made you want to kidnap me and tort me. Yeah, you said a lot of bulls what I said. I really do be honest with you. I don't even really be remember after that, like you said, I was even looking this morning, like I was looking gangs though the game. We ain't even

to come to the city. Gangst wouldn't know. They don't make it out. I said that. I remember when you tweeted, um, Breakfast Club is the Devil? I did ye? I think that was after the Yeah, I guess you and the game had a situation back then. Yeah. Then it's like you started trying to do interviews or everybody I'll beefing with, Like Doug, you don't interview with game game the game back then, I mean even now, I mean listen, we would. I would interview game now, but when I don't even

remember when that was twenty fifteen. He had albums and stuff. Man, man, but I don't like to be one of them people like you know, I'm if we if we robbed with you, we robbed with you, whether you up, whether you're down, like it definitely ain't about that because at that point were bigger than me. But it was like it did nothing for you. Now, I'm sure it did good on YouTube and stuff like, Oh but you see, we interviewed plenty people, man, right, but it wasn't nothing. It wasn't like,

let's interview games game. That's what I felt. I was got them eighteen No, man, another was personal. I'm just saying that we thought you were gonna come up here and do an interview because I remember they kept being like, would you interview thug? And I'm like, where he want to come to the show. That's why I even now, I was surprised. I always wanted to do this show too. Always this one of the biggies shows. Y'all know, y'all got it, Yeah, I got it. We always wanted you here.

I saw you, I saw you post one day. One day you just posted my picture with laughing poaches like, man, it's a random picture with laughing emojis. Well, you got macmillan Juice World on the album two. He was close to both of them or just j Yeah, I know he's closed to Jews, both my brother. Did you have

a process like the depths of Mac and Juice? I mean, you know, you you've seen people go before, but once you're in the industry and you get industry relationships and you see that, did you have a process that No? I feel like I'm still running from Juice had a bunch of music together, damn man. Yeah, so when you hear it now, like, did it bring up all those old memories and everything else? Yes, he liked being around them, spent a lot of time together. Spent a lot of

time Mac too. I was with Matt the day before he died. No, he's at my studio. We did this the song on my album's So Crazy about coincidental. He came to the studio, did a song on me the next day he died, And the song that we did at the studio the name of the song this day before Wow. But the song is just about like like women like that. Then they didn't want to Damn y'all

know what I'm saying. But it was like flamboying, like yeah, before dagntate, Bro, do you do you go back and think about that, those last conversations that last, those last moments, and you didn't know that was gonna be the last moments. But yeah, I think deep on that because it's like, is that a sign? Have you ever just wished, like God to just really talk to you? I feel like I talked to him if that's why I do meditations. When I meditate, I feel like He gives me the

answers and he just talking. It's real quiet. It ain't as loud as the noise around you, like you know you'll see you on TV, social media, people in your ear. When God talk, it's like real quiet. He only gonna repeat. He only gonna say it once or she I said he or she That entity is only gonna say at one time, like you know the right thing to do? You very self away, thug right, and you have good intuition. That's right. I can see that in you, right, good guy,

I'm really good guy. All right, Well don't move. We got more with Young Tug when we come back. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy we are the breakfast club. Were still kicking it with young dog. When it comes to women, are you a good guy? Here comes that tea? She's trying to get that tea? Stuff? Do this what you mean? Women? I mean listen, because listen to your music, Like you have this one song where you like, um, what is

it you said? You said last night? And then I can't get you out of this? Like, what is it like for you? Are you single? Now? Are you still in a relationship? Have you ever noticed if you always talk about six that single relationship? I know what I'm just saying. I got a whole podcast about it called Little Service about Relationships and Sex. It's crazy. I always noticed that the guys who are real usually treat their

women better than most. Right, So, do you think that, as you are reflecting on anything everything in your life, do you think that when it comes to relationships, that you've been the person that you want to be, the man that you want to be in a relationship. Oh of course, no taking care of the house, making you feel like your father. You know. The thing, the thing you gotta do with women you gotta make them, You gotta make them feel like you they father right, because

you want to feel secure. You also want to feel like it something goes wrong, he's gonna be there to take care of it. That's the first person you call when something's going down. Are you trusting of women when you're in relationships? I trust the girl that I'm in a relationship with, but other women, no, I don't trust. No down No, how hard does it get to get to the point where you trust somebody like who you're with? Now? How hard did it take? How long did it take?

You have your guard up, you have your walls up. You never know what somebody's there for. How long was that process? Oh? It was long. I loved it. I loved its loan at our seconds? Well, don't my guard came down so fast? That's your intuition. How do you know? How do you know? How do you know what you're going? Then? No,

I just like went with the flow. I want to go back to what you said about, you know, being the father, because a lot of people he hear that and try to misconstrue it, but it's it's true, like men should be nurturing and we should be loving, and we should be caring and protect us and provide us like a father would. That's why I got four daughters.

When my daughter come to me and you know, to man come to me and asked for one of their hand in marriage, I want to make sure that he can do all of those things right for her, Like you know what I mean. So I understand what you meant by that, right. What was the purpose of trashing the rolls Royce? I don't know. I just wanted. I wasn't I didn't, I wasn't feeling, I wasn't an album mode, and I just was like, you know what, I want to do something really cool. What did it symbolize for you?

It just symbolized punking rock rock star and just like, yeah, it just means who calls it? Man? Hey, I bought this same day? Man? What? Oh my god? Man? I love the club. So you bought it? No insurance, no nothing, but yeah, I know it's a it's a it's trash at this point, did you buy it? Bye? Did you least about it at least no more cut? Yeah? God damn was it worth it? Yes? It was really fun. I had hit the keys somewhere in the la though, so whoever find the keys to have cate of car,

it still ain't drivable. Fix you get get at the parts. It might you've got a hunt wow, but you definitely can get it. Definitely can get fixed. It's only dance wonders. Yeah. Let's talk about your relationship with Ja Cole and I like when you guys work together, because some people in their head might be like, what's that going to sound like? But obviously y'all have a good relationship and been working together.

What are some things you learned from Jay Cole? Keep going, keep believing, you know, because it got to a point where you didn't want to hear like certain type of music, and his music was that music. He just kept believing and never stopped. He didn't he did. He always did the numbers, but it was like he couldn't get catched the right tour. He couldn't sell, you know, he just kept going. I got that from him. If I'm the guy he always he's always with his wife and his kid,

always every single day. Every dollar ain't good, That's true, every dollar ain't good. Have you turned down some huge situations? Of course, of course he's dollars was the last thing you turned down. I think it was like three shows. Somebody wanted to do three shows, but I wanted a million dollars for a show, and they wanted to give me. Like, hey, it sounds pretty good, honey, sounds pretty good, because then that's your number. Yeah, yeah, I didn't like actually like

push it away. I did just enough to come back. What's your relationship like now? With Wayne Loye. We haven't been to studio a few times. We had a few songs together, supposed to be working on this album. Man, I told him, I'm like, bro, you know you're my Like, we just need we just gotta do an album. Whatever you want, you can have an album. I don't care. Did you ever really dislike him or that was just

I ain't ever disliked him. You felt like he didn't like you though, because he didn't shake I know you said he didn't shake your hand when you ran into him. And then a lot of people felt like you were trolling him when you did the car it was the card to six Yep, some corny to me, like trolling then corny. I don't think I ever was trolling them. I really wanted to be like him, but it just seemed like I was trolling them. You know, did you

ever did y'all have that conversation? You and him? We definitely had conversations, But do you remember that first when y'all had after all of that, after all the stuff that played out in the media. Yeah, it was. It was easy to like, that's I know we are like because it was. It wasn't even like a long conversation. It was literally seconds, But I understood, I didn't. I walked off not feeling a certain type of way. He walked off, not feeling the sertain type of way. Who

put it together? Burd Man? Yes, wow, and it was he said, it was seconds, like whatever, I'm sorry. Yeah, I like black and that's all you needed. And y'all have been doing songs. Wow, that's all that ever was? Yeah, I think you just probably mad mad at Birders in that picture with a little dirt. What was all that computer man and ass dirt? He told me not to ever ten no matter. We definitely wasn't looking at pro too.

What really definitely won't looking at pro too. So he's he called you, like, don't ever tell nobody what we was looking at. I asked him before, like, hey, you're like, nah, I say less, how much do numbers matter to you? Because I know your last couple of albums, but number one. Obviously you have the song that's number one with Drake, But when it comes to this album, which you know could be number one. I know Meek was saying that those numbers Billboard, none of that matters to him. How

much does it matter to you the same amount? It's just numbers. It ain't about none of that. At one point j Cole album was going number one, but he couldn't see a theater, So do the numbers matter? That's true? This dog. Have any regrets over the last eleven years of your time in this industry not doing every single thing that rolled out? It ain't too late, ever too late, But that's something I regret. I regret getting into it with people. I regret spend so much mother money on

what just material items like calls everything. We don't believe you, thug. You just bought a call last week and beat up on it for no reason. I regretted already. A week later, you regret that's not even a week. A few days later, you regret it already. I'll just seeing me in the call that back. I said, oh my god, you think you are hey thug man. I'm happy that you came to the breakfast club, and it's good seeing your evolution

over the past ten eleven years. My brother, truly, man, I apologize for anything I said that offended you in the past. He was all younger and stupid and back then, because I like seeing young black men get money and you making other black men rich man. That's the video, that's the beauty of it. They're not just getting money, put putting other people in position. Gotta respect it well so far because the album came out later than we anticipated, you know, post Malan Stills doing it first. No, I

didn't know. That's why Man call me at twelve o'clock like a mom was done. I'm like, oh my god, would you mother just reached out to him to do it then? No, he's just taking Is it gonna be a deluction? Everybody does a deluxe with some songs that they didn't have on their at first. You're gonna do it deluxe? Also DeLux? They burned out. Now, I don't be caring about them, you know, honestly, it's not once

I listen to you, if I like it. You know, I'm gonna keep going back to it, but if I listen to it, I ain't really put it the first time. It's like I'm gonna go back toote exactly, exactly. Congrats, young dog, appreciate you for coming. Brother Punked is out right now. It's the breakfast Club. It's for Donkey of the Day, being Donkey of the day, a little bit of a mixed up so like a donkey the other day. Now I've been called a lot my twenty three years. That Donkey of the day is a new wife. Okayve

oh okay. Donkey of the Day goes to self Love ambassador, entrepreneur, social media relationship expert Arthur. He's wrote books like Heil Together Without Hurting each Other. He wrote another book called Single Mothers of for Grown men only. And he even wrote a book called A Cheating Man's Heart, a fiction novel. I put fiction novel in air quotes because based on all these new developments, it's safe to say Derek Jackson's book A Cheating Man's Heart was probably based on a

true story. Now Derek has built a following basically calling men out on their behavior, okay, holding men accountable, I'm not mad at that he's done it to me. He's done it to Little Duval, He's done it to Gilly the King, He's done it to Isaac Hay is the third. This is this thing, okay, holding men accountable, and I'm fine with that. I had him on my podcast Brilliant Idiots a few years ago, and on that podcast we promised to hold each other accountable. Well, Derek Jackson is

your turn to be held accountable. Okay, let's just get right to it. Derek Jackson is full of Okay, I can't Curson. You know that? He say? Oh what, Yes, he's full of that. Okay. He's a liar, a textbook narcissist and manipulator who gets what he wants at the expense of other people's well being. This is a guy who will get online and say this about men who have cheated. I have no sympathy for a man who finds it to be difficult to be faithful after being

in a permission with lifestyle and neither sit. Nobody told you to be permissionus before the relationship, and nobody made you be monogamous, but just hurt. You don't want to let another man have her and more times. I would say nine times out of ten when the dude gets caught cheating, that wasn't wasn't his very very first time cheating. That was his only time getting caught. I agree with you, Derek. Okay, And guess what. Derek Jackson himself is a cheatah Oh,

he just got exposed by a woman named Candice. I can't pronounce her last name, but but Derek Jackson, who was a married man, bought this woman to Atlanta to stay in his house he shares with his wife and kids. The woman Candice, who Derek was cheating with, actually took pictures of her laying in the bed he shared with his wife and there Atlanta home. Derek Jackson, who spells his last name J A X And why I don't

know that bothers me. Jackson may be a slave name, but when it comes to black people, it's one of the greatest last names you can never have. Why would you hack that? I mean, when you're talking Jackson, you're talking Samuel l Janet, Jesse, Bow, Randy, Mehelia, and of course Michael. But actually, I'm glad you don't spell your last name Jackson because you don't deserve to be in that Jackson power ranking. Okay, if you were, you would

be at the bottom right under Andrew. You know, Andrew Jackson, seventh President of the United States, slave master Eth Nick Clints, the Tyrant. If you actually spelled your last name Jackson correctly, you would be at the bottom of the list, near him because of the level of evil that you display. Yes, my brothers, see what we're gonna do here today is stopped the shenanigans. And see, my father always told me that when you lie, you're not lying to nobody but yourself.

And I have watched you since this story broke, just lie an attempt to continue to manipulate the public. I mean, that's what you do. You manipulate people. You get online and have these bad faith arguments, which is also textbook narcissism, meaning you don't care about it. I even trying to understand the people that you speak about. You said it yourself, I don't have no sympathy for a man who cheats.

Not only do you not care or attempt to understand the people you're talking about to have any sympathy or empathy. All right, you are dedicated to deliberately misunderstanding and mischaracterizing others to make yourself look good. You like to paint other men as being dishonest and deceptive and morally corrupt. Why because you're a narcissist, and that's what narcissists do, project their bs onto other people. The reason you love to paint men is dishonest, deceptive, and morally corrupt, it's

because that's what you are. See, Derek, I waited to give you donkey because I want to see how you would react to all of this. And you're reacted by doing what you've been doing all this time, and that's lying. See. I saw the first video you posted when you first addressed the allegations. You said that you and your wife were separated during that time, and that you and Candice have had a sexual relationship without actually having sex. Listen, I'm in screw it. Molde, ef it, molde. I'm hitting

up old chicks. I really don't care at this point. One of those people was a girl named Candide. Now here's the thing, So me and Candice have had a sexual relationship without actually having sex. Fallacies, nonsense, word salad, lies, denying, changing definitions. This is textbook narcissism, people lying about what happened the now delusion, trying to confuse us, to make

us doubt the reality of the reality of the situation. See, narcissists are often he'll equipped to have mature discussions or resolve conflicts, but in their mind they are experts at it. Okay, he don't even really understand what he's saying, but in his mind he's being rationally reasonable incorrect. But the reality is this nigga just lying in That's why what he's saying don't make no sense. Okay, we had to sex

your relationship but didn't have sex. That's why it's just an incoherent rant with no logic, because it's a lie. Then hours later, hours later, Derek Jackson came back online with his wife to admit that he did cheating, that he was unfaithful to his wife. Listen to this guy. The truth is is that Derek Jackson was involved with other women outside the marriage. About involved, I want to be clear, I'm not talking about just casually kicking it,

maybe a lunch or something like that. I'm talking about that serious sex. First name, nigga, lasting name. Please Derek. If nobody else has told you. What you did to your wife was wrong, all right. She had nothing to do with this. She wasn't with you when you was out here cheating with these women, so she shouldn't be with you when you're doing damage control. This story has nothing to do with her. Nothing. And what sad is you are more concerned about saving your business than you

are about saving your marriage. You are more concerned about what we think of you than you are about what your wife thinks of you. Kane, if you're gonna use your wife as a human shield like Nino Brown us that kid as a human shield in New jack City, at least get her glammed up. Okay, you got her up there looking like she forgot it was the second part to the bust of challenge. I was waiting for her to drop and come up fresh, but that never happens.

And guess what, you don't care. You didn't care about the backlash she could receive. You be on social media all the time. You know how cruel people are. Not only did your wife have to heal from your infidelity, now she has to heal from the bullying that she is currently receiving online. But the narcissist like you don't give a damn because your goal is a narcissist is to dominate and be perceived as right at all costs.

Do you know the complex your wife is gonna have now, it's impossible to not be impacted by what people say about you online. Ain't enough God in Jesus in the world. You can put on the whole armor of God and God will protect you, but you still gonna feed into what people are saying. And you could have protected your queen from all that because she had nothing to do

with it. This is about you and your behavior. If she forgives you, great, but that don't mean drag her out and have her on your arm looking like a damn puppet off Crankyakas and you the chief manipulated, controlling all her movements. But that's what narcissists do. They deflect, attack, project. That's why he had his wife there to deflect. Then he started talking about John Gravey because Shade Room asked

him a question. You should have just ignored that, but you can't because narcissists love to shift attention from what they are saying and doing. This brother Derek Jackson went so far as to deflect and blame Jesus. Listen, at that point, I had a bee for God. I gave my life to Christ, and my whole life fell apart, my marriage fell apart. At this point, I'm not seeing my kids and I really, honestly just went to a

place of effic It's the audacity for me. I've never heard a person say I gave him my life to God and now my life is left up. That's not how that works, Derek. God told me to tell you stop lying. Nigga. Okay, God, Jesus, the Holy Ghost, they don't got nothing to do with your ways. In fact, they told me to remind you that this is nothing but the devil. That's who should be getting to blame here. Of the devil and the devil's name, Derek Jackson, you're

the liar, You're the manipulator. You're the narcissist. Giving your life to Christ. Didn't have your life up. You f your life up because you live in a lie and you had the nerve to blame God. You did the same thing to Jesus that you did to your wife, bought Jesus into it for no reason. But the reason you do this is because you never truly have to take responsibility for their toxic behavior. That's what narcissists do.

Narcissists do things like this. The only reason he bought Jesus up is because he never truly wants to take responsibility for his bad behavior. Derek, I decided to give you donkey the day after what I heard you say last night because it confirmed for me what I already knew. You are a textbook narcissist like you need to be studied see gaslight as Narcissists love to speak in the third person. Why because it distances them from their actions.

Listen to this dude yesterday sitting in the car. Listen. I hope he understands that all the accountability in the world is not going to rebuild broken trust, not on a personal level, and even with the public that he's addressing, like even his most loyal supporters at this point will probably have a raised I brought from this point forward whenever he wants to condemn another man for something like this, and rightfully so, so hopefully he understands that. Nonetheless, I

know some people will see this type of video. Even though he's come forward and he's been completely honest, some people are just going to close the book on Ding. I'm more so on the side of his wife and just basically letting this be a new chapter of how I see him, because I do believe that his content over the years has helped a tremendous amount of people. You know, he tells the truth, He speaks facts and quite honestly him And be real with y'all, I've needed

several new chapters in my own life. When gaslighters narcissists feel that not enough people are praising them, they praise themselves. Speaking a third person is a reassurance to the gaslight of narcissists that he is worthy of adoration. Derek, It's just simply time for you to shut the f up forever, take a break. I know last year with COVID money probably was type because you weren't getting book for speaking engagements to show up the lot of people. And I

know you see your business crumbling before your eyes. But King, just go get help. You need to do some real soul searching, you need to do some real therapy, and you need to fix what's wrong with you. Don't get online that day trying to project the flect and attack anyone else, prove to us that you are not a narcissist. By shutting the hell up, I challenge you to disable all your social media and go away for some much vanish. I know as a narcissist you believe that you can

talk your way out of this situation. But no, because see, if you don't stop now, I know where you're gonna go from here. What's gonna happen is instead of really taking responsibility for your actions, you're gonna continue to deflect and start attacking other people. And that's when it's gonna get bad for you, because right now it's just Candice well Man. Oh man, there's so many women that are ready to talk about how you tried to highlight them.

And if you don't stop while your ahead, it's gonna get worse. And I know it may feel like you can't get worse, but Derek, it absolutely can. Just go away for a while. I know you got an extremely fragile ego and shaky self esteem. You're gonna be online looking for a handful of people who's still stupid enough to support you. You're gonna be reposting them, retweeting them to receive more false validation, looking for folks to side with you and tell them that you are right and

good and blah blah blah. Well, you can prop your wife up, you can deflect and attack others, blame others, act like you're happily married now, and continue to use this situation to promote that book of lies you have on your website with you and your wife on the cover. But since you the narcissists like to speaking third person, let's end this with Derek Jackson giving a piece of advice to Derek Jackson, let's public service announcement. Marriages are

make a man marriage material. See through the media and sometimes firsthand experience. Marriage has been marketed as what it could and really should be a long lasting, beautiful union. But it's not a magic trick that wipes away of dudes. Ain't the ways forever. You can go, get the prettiest ribbon you can find and put it on a turd, It's still gonna be a piece of marriage makes you married. Loyalty is what makes you committed. I agree, Derek. You can put a ribbon on a piece of and it's

still a piece of okay. And if you've proved anything to us this week, it's that you sir, are a piece of can you change that show? We all grow? But you have to make a commitment to yourself and not this idea of yourself that you have created online. Please let Rimmy Mark give Derek Jackson the biggest he haw he haw he ha. You stupid motherfar are you dumb? All right? Well said, well said? All right, thank you for that. Donkey to day. Well, don't move, Happy holidays.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Everybody is DJ Envy angela ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, Montero Little Now. I'm a big fan of me. Man. You gotta you gotta be. Why wouldn't you be outfit? By the way, I'm pretty happy happy. Can we show iPhones on here or something? Yes, of course, you guys just turned up to down ninety degrees in New York today.

I know, but cold. It's cold cold. When you got a cold cold, you can wait in the summer time. But how's your spirit? Do you say you feel happy? I'm feel happy. I'm having the best week of my life right now. Albums out this week, Albums out this Friday, well, let's this is the first time. You see, he was supposed to be here a couple of times, but we finally got him up there. So I want to stop from the beginning, y'all, don't mind little nas X. How did you come up with the name Little nas X?

Most people thought maybe your name was Nazi and it was a short but how did you come up with the name little nas X? I was like, how can I still three rappers names? No? No, no, no, no, no, like dad serious, I mean, of course, you guys know about the account. I had the account, and I was like, I wasn't gonna do music, like for real, for real. I was just gonna post something because I was bored and I was supposed to be doing some college work.

And I posted the song to my followers and I was like, oh, every rapper name got little and you know, a little Yadi LUUZI, So what if I was a little nas ha ha ha? And I end up like keeping it, you know, and then we add the X on. Now you were at first you were you were barbed. Yeah, well you're one of those barbs that really wouldn't people like the barbs do really, the barbs are aggressive I'm still barbed. Really, I feel like that's something. It's like

a cult. You know, once you're in it, you can't really get out. Did you really tack anybody up like Charlemagne me? Did you ever attack anybody? I think I was attacked you guys a couple of times. Little transparency? What made you switch to the government? Now the government? What do you mean by that? My Taro, you got my name. I didn't really squitch yet. I mean I wanted to get my actual name out there. And people still think it's like a fictional world that I just

made up. But yeah, you know, there's a true that your mom named you after the car. My mom the car because she wanted to lay the car. Yeah yeah, and now she probably don't even wanted them more. Now you can afford it, and she don't even want that, no Subishi. I mean, I feel like that would have been cool too. All my Spanish friends think I'm like Spanish or something, So I mean that's fired. So do

you understand when people troll you? Because you trolled people and like we had those accounts, does it make you more like, Okay, I don't take it as seriously because I know I was in that position when absolutely, I feel like that's that's why a lot of absolutely, I feel like that's why a lot of just rolls off my sleeves. Yeah, you handle it well when people go at you. You handle it really well, which is surprising

because most artists they can't handle it. You see them break down, you see them getting into Definitely do breakdown sometimes. I'm not gonna lie, but I'm never gonna do that publicly. What do you do when you break down? You got a therapist. You gotta like something that grounds you. You try to get a therapist one time, right, and then like the concept of like I actually cried to the

lad the first session and nothing wrong. Then she text me about the payment and it's just like damn, it's like so the money, how much it was like two hundred something? Probably overcharged me. I didn't know. You didn't go back after the first time. I didn't go back. And I feel like I don't really need therapy. Honestly, don't say that I don't. I just me personally. I feel like everybody out there gonna get therapyle feel you

need it. I don't feel like I need therapy because I feel like i've always been like my own like self healer. You know, you think always though, like when I listen to a song like sound Goes Down and I know that song is inspirational for a lot of people, but you pour your heart into that, and you even talk about since you were ten years old just having these feelings. So sometimes I think we don't even know the effect of what our childhood was, like what is

going to have on us later? Like it comes up, but you have to identify that by I mean, I've never done therapy, but I do feel like I'm really good at expressing myself and having a good support system. Wait, what's the question? I was talking about the song Sound Goes Down, right, and how you express yourself on that and just things you went through as a child. Do you feel like sometimes those things do come back up? Though they come back up, but I feel like I'm

able to recognize them and then make things easier. You know, let maybe say, Okay, I can react to this differently now, you know, And I also just remember like we all experience the same in different ways, like no matter how bad it may seem, and it's like just being okay with that, you know, it happens in life, We're going to have a lot of happened to us over and over. It's gonna be a lot of bad parts, a lot of happy parts. And I'm just I'm here for it all.

I'm glad you went to therapy early. You know what I'm saying. You're a twenty two Yeah, I'm twenty two. Yeah. You know I didn't go till that. I was like thirty six, you know what I mean. So you know I'm packing all those years of baggage. I love it. I go once a week, absolutely, go once a week. Still, I'm going for five years, five six years. I love it. I love it, go back one day. I don't understand why people are so mad about things that you do.

You know, people are just really easily angered at things that they already don't like. You know. It's kind of like how people cancel people that they already didn't like. I never got to cancel the artists that they love. That's right. You feel a pressure to outdo everything you've done before, Like I got to outdo old Town role, and I gotta outdo the VMAs like you do. You always think like I have to outdo it. I feel the pressure to always just make sure I'm doing my

best on whatever I do. I know I'm gonna outdo like over and over it, and it's just like not like feeling cocky, but just like like knowing that. You know. That's how I feel like manifestation works in the first place, Like you gotta believe that and feel it. So, yeah, is there a time you plan to do something and then you change your mind You're like, Nah, that might be too far. Yeah, I mean, I'm pregnant right now, so I feel like I definitely have those moves. I'm secondly,

my stumming right now. What's what's different between this success you're having now and the success you had with Old Time Roll. This success, I feel like I'm much more in control of, you know, and I'm making my calculated moves in the way I feel I need to make them. And I feel like anybody that's pissed off or the exact people that need to be pissed off, you know, because nobody could have predicted the success of Old Town

Roll like that, nobody around you, not even yourself. So what happens when you end up with the biggest record ever? I mean, what happens is you know, you go on you go on the barbershop show, and Charlotte Mage' is like, man, what's you're gonna do? Right? And he's like he's like they count you out, man, And I'm like okay. And then you know, you just work on yourself and you come back out like a flower, you know, you bloom, drop some songs and videos and you make the world

shake a little bit. That's what I see, though. I remember when you did this shop, you didn't see him as free as you do now. Like when I look at you now, I can tell like this young man is really free, he's really comfortable. You didn't seem that way back then. I guess I wasn't because it's a process, you know. And I'm still like it's a steady thing, you know, throughout our whole life. I guess I'm just further along now than twenty nineteen. Did you ever think

he was gonna be a one hit one day? Or you ever did that ever cross your mind? That never really crossed my mind. The only time I never crossed my mind is if I had a bad day. Now, I was already like feeling like these like self deprecating thoughts or whatever. Did you ever feel like Old Time Roll was bigger than you? Yeah, definitely, I think so. Yeah. Absolutely. We had moved with Little nas X. When we come back, don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning Morning. Everybody

is DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlemagne, the guy we are to Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Little nas X with all these orders you have, Yeah, making a style, you know on the album Jack Harlow, that was your cat Doja Cat, Molly Cyrus. Do you ever reach out to an autist or you have to feel hesitant to reach out autist like dam I don't know if he's gonna say yes or no at all. Nicki and Drake. You reached out to Nicki and Drake? Yeah, no reply from Nikki. Drake was still work a ball. Didn't you

sland it Nikki at one point too? At one point? I've never slander Nikki. Okay, okay, okay. I don't know. There's like a lot of things going around, but I don't respond to any episode. It's like respond to any other because he's just going to keep being brought back up because Nicki a whole grudge. I feel like the only time I would slander Nikki is if if I was like on the standing and I was like, I thought Nikki was supposed to be going live or like that,

like there's no actual Slender. Drake didn't reply at autim. Drake replied, um, and he was still working on Certified lover Boy and whatnot. And he was one folks on that this is like a few weeks ago, and I understood completely, and he said, you know, he's down to do something, but just not the right time. You're trying to get his own together. Was there a particular song on this album that you wanted him on? I wanted him on dos shign Slime. I was gonna ask you

about that record because slime is gang slang. And I was like, Na's in the gang, Nah's banging? Next question, are you banging Montero? So what what the Dallas sign

slime mean? Dollars? I'm still Dallars signs slime. I'm the same dollar sign slime because I feel like slime is like grown like this overall, meaning like it has become like a super popular word, like everybody just called they free slim, and I know like it came from thug and whatnot came from Noriega, the rapper Noriega og rapper that hosts Drink Champs Now definitely started to popularize it, though moll Nori popularized for his era and then Yeah but Thug to this era Yeah and doll sliz Slime.

It's it's basically just like I'm the same Doll sign slime, Like that's the hook, but it's like I'm the same you know, I'm still him, I'm still that guy, so you banging. Wow, that's the headline that he's in the gang. Being in a gang. Not Dead to me is my favorite record on the album right now Dead right Now, I'm sorry sounds very very, very very personal, which sparked that record. Um, I feel like we were getting really close to finishing the album and then I was still

working on music. I mean, I'm always working on music. And it was something about those horns. I was like, damn, this like some Drake jay Z is kind of but I guess a little bit more poppy or whatever, and I was like, let me try to give like some real insight on here. Yeah, and that's what I did. You know people in your life that are that are dead do you? Basically? Yeah, like people who were dead to me. I guess nobody's ever really one hundred percent

dead to me. But it's like some people you just want to disconnect from. Yeah, do you feel a pressure of I see it with all the time. Parents would be like, you know, you have a responsibility because kids are watching. Me had that CARDI b had that same problem, and Nikki had that same problem. Do you feel that same way? Like, I don't know, I feel like I used to, but now just like like your kids, not like your kids exactly what you just said, but like okay,

but like I just gave them another headline. Okay, what agenda is that? The kids agenda? It's like, um, we really get one one chance to do this, at least to my knowledge. I don't know, like what happens when

we die or not. Uh So it's like I'm not like about to pender to your kids or you like anybody, like even I have even have to do this with my family members, you know, like because my family members may not always agree with what I'm doing or like whoever I'm dating, Like they may not agree, but it's like I honestly really truly want to live by you know, this is our life we can do this. So what anybody else has to really say about it? I guess, you know, I would say, when it comes to the music,

just tell people. That's the reason there's a parental advisory sticker that too. On on on the music. Did you see the YouTube kids thing? I don't know if you saw that. It was like a lady she's like she like searched up music for babies, like industry baby popped up and she was like surprised, like you looked up baby and music, Like what do you what do you expect from that? And your dad was a gospel singer. Yeah, he's still sings too. He's actually on dad right now

in the background vocals. Oh that's dope. Yeah, So he did he know? Like I know you've said that you knew since you were five years old that you were gay, and you know how a lot of times your family knows, but you just had feel like it's possible that he could pick up on stuff. I mean, I was super reserved though, So I guess I hate a little better the art of realization breakdown what that is. It's kind of like a lot of times I think, like what am I doing? Is this for me? Like am I

Am I really happy doing this? Or am I trying to impress everybody? And then like I basically on that, I'm basically coming to the realization that, yeah, this is for me, this is why I want to do. I'm sure if I'm sure if it you know? Are you though? I am sure? Because I saw you tweet that you love pissing people off? That was a control tweet on it. That's my thing. So what would you call would you do? Trolling? Marketing? What is it? It's all of it, that's all of

It's trolling, it's marketing. It works. What have you realized about yourself in the past couple of years when you're when you're alone in Montero, just by himself and it's just him and his thoughts? What have you realized about yourself? I don't know. I feel like I figured out a lot of honestly, because I spend a lot of time in like solitude and like doing a lot of self reflecting. Like I'm so I'm really aware of myself and like a lot of my hypocritical actions and whatnot. Would you

all have like what we're human? Actually? Just like I mean, do you know how I am in my music video. You my video is a much more like sexual and whatnot. Ain't know how I used to be. It should be happy that people be like, oh, he's not like those other gay people like oh, flamboyant and whatnot. And it was like, that's not a compliment. You know, these people have been taught like this is not okay, and it's grown into that mind that that's stuff when it's not

that deep. So you want to be what you're saying, You want to be flamboying in the videos on purpose? Just to what are you saying? It said. It's saying like I want the videos to be entertaining, and whether you like it or not, like seeing men like do different things and what men always do, it is much more entertaining and actually enjoy it, you know, I mean you should. I mean I look at it as you're who you are, so you're living your truth. How can you be mad at an artist for living their truth.

That's what he likes. I like it. Yeah, we have more with Little nas X when we come back. Don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Chalomagne, the guy, we Are to Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Little nas X. Chalomagne did in the country community to give you backlash when Old Time Road Frost came out. Yeah, And what do they think now, because they must feel like I actually a lot of country artists have been showing me

a lot of support, and I mean people. I don't know what people may think, but I am still going to probably get back to doing some countries music or and I mean because I like different genres of what and I like making a lot of different music. So what's the country you were you a country listen? Did you listen to country or what? Just job? It was genuinely like I saw like one of these like country trappis kind of songs. I was like, damn, what if

I did that but better? And you know that's what happened. That's how I felt listening to the new album. I'm like, I have no idea what genre in music Little Nonex mix. I just categorize this pop now, you know, But I do I do a lot of Now, what advice is Elton John giving you? Because I always hear about Elton John, you know, putting his arm around certain individuals and giving them real o g advice? What advice is giving you?

What advice is Elton giving me? Oh? You know, he pretty much just giving me like the you know, keep doing you be yourself and whatnot. And he probably told me some other things. I can't remember right now, because Jesus Christ, I don't remember what John told you. I haven't told a lot of people. Job. So who do you Elton? Who do you respect? Like? Who do you hear from? And you it sticks to you like when you hear it sticks to me? Maybe not, maybe because

we haven't talked in person. Well we've talked in person, but not about that. But like I literally sometimes look up like Kanye motivation videos whatnot, because Kanye is outspoken is and even though that may not always come out you know, great or whatnot. I love that And I wish I wish everybody was like that, you know, I want to be more like that. You know. The thing about Kanye that's so interesting. For whatever reason, Kanye is allowed to make mistakes, Like the culture treats Kanye the

way we should treat everyone. He's allowed to make mistakes for some reason. He set that up for himself, you know, because he's always he's never going back on it. You know. He's like, I said that it's done, let's move on, and people like damn and people yeah, tells of Dominica. Tells Dominica, what's that about? And he's from there and didn't even Yes, my father is half but half here. But the problem is my dad doesn't really know his dad,

so he don't know that side. Tell her. Domenica's like from a point of view of when I like first started making music. You know, I'm writing kind of like I woke up on the floor of the plastic bed, you know, I was on a mattress at my brother's house, and you know, there was like a lot of like domestic violence, like they were always like fighting with their girls and whatnot, and you know, randomly like can shooting up into the sky and I was just like that

and this is a lot of chaos. Signet back, Yeah, And it was like, you know, talking about how I didn't want to go back to home, you know, because I know my step mom was just going to like kind of hit on me. And it's because she wanted the best for me, I guess. And it's kind of this name tells up Domenica because I feel like Dominica is like that beautiful place. You know, he doesn't know, he's never been there. He's not talking about Dominican Republicans

talking about Dominica right now. Yeah, people automatically think is Dominican Republic. You don't even know how to pronounced it. I actually to tell have you been there? I haven't. It's just like I've seen like pictures, so it's kind of it's kind of like a tales of this beautiful place, but it's it's like the worst part of my life at that point. You know, Yeah, well you killed it

at the met Galla. I want to say that you had my favorite looks by the night because I think like taking risk in fashion it's so important, and I think I love the way that as far as your packaging, like your persona, your music, and the way that you perform, but also the way you dress is so important for you too. Are you going to do something like maybe

in passion? Absolutely? I feel like when someone can focus on it and like only that because I feel like a lot of times people like hops grated to something they don't really really even give a fuck about it, and I don't want that to happen the same like with movies. It's like only be in movies one day, but I want to be like dedicated to that. I'm so mad you passed up you for ye that would have been I love that show? Why did you pass before?

I love you for you? I have to I have to finish my album, you know, and I have to start getting ready to drop singles and you know, I mean I wouldn't have this year without that, right, those are hard decisions to make. Last song on the album is and my Dreaming? Do you do you feel like you're dreaming right now? And my dream and my dreaming? Oh yes, look at those butterflies. You've guys missed it. But that's like that's the theme of the album. Um um,

do I feel like I'm dreaming all the time? Yeah? You got it? You got you got a d D, don't you do? I I think I may have it. You definitely was the kid that did not keep still in class. Definitely possible. Now the baby is due Friday. To watch your birth video. You did a birth video? Yeah you know who did that first Cosby show? You ever seen that episode? I've seen the pictures of it. When people were like having a discourse. All the guys were pregnant, and they all gave birth to things that

they loved. So some gave birth to sandwiches, some gave birth to cars, some gave birth to ships. So your idea isn't that original. I feel like I did it better. I mean, I love I love the Cosby Show. Though, wait, can we say that, yes, Cosmo made millions go to wabbing his knees, Like, did I just get canceled? Do you respect for artists when they go actually, when they take it out of music and say the things that you do, do you lose respect for those artists? Which artists,

whether it's TI or Boosty, I still bump TI. I mean I was listening to Boosting the club. I don't really care. Honestly, I feel like I wish they didn't say it. I guess, but I like the music. I'm gonna listen to the music. You know, if somebody's gotta beef for me, don't mean I have to beef for them. You know, does it ever occur to you how you're

really breaking all these barriers for people? Like there's a lot of different things, even just being in country music or being in hip hop and being who you are and unapologetic about about it. Does it Do you ever think like, damn, I'm doing things that have never been done before. Not really, because I feel like everything has been done before it in some kind of way, and it's just always different ways to do it. I guess well, I think it's dope that people see it that way. Yeah,

keep doing your thing, man. I like I like the way you don't give, and I like that you're truly being yourself. I like the fact you you're clearly free. I appreciate it. That's right, little nas X. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, let's get into industry baby, Thank you for joining us and the positive notice simply this. During your transformation, you might feel like everything is falling apart, but in reality, everything is coming together for your highest good.

You're being pushed to evolve and get out of your comfort zone so you can live and experience your true greatness. Welcome the change, Breakfast Club. Finish it, y'alld up

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