Find Your Joy (Eboni K Williams Interview)

yo yo. Good morning Angelo, ye, good Morning's amby Cholomagne the god beast to the planet is Thursday, and shout out to everybody in Toronto? What up Toronto? All right now? Charlemagne? Um happening? You don't sound like your usual self. You wanna um. I know it's a difficult time. You want to explain to people because people are probably understanding like, damn, that ain't the the usual yo yo yo, you you

know that ain't the the usual, Charlemagne. We got I don't know if I don't know, if I'm I don't know if I'm ready to talk talk, but I mean, you know, yeah, rest in peace to the homie Um. Jasmine Waters aka jazz Fly. Um got the news yesterday around one thirty East Coast time that she passed away. Very good partner of mine. If you you know, listen to the you know Brilliant Idious podcast, the podcast that I do. She was actually the first ever guest on

the podcast period. I haven't been on the podcast a few times, but just a homie, you know what I mean, somebody that you know, when it when it was time to go to war or time to you know, bounce some bounce some ideas around, or just you know, somebody to um. It kind of talked me off the ledge a lot of the times. And she was she was a person I would definitely go to. Jazz always knew what to say and how to say it. Hell of

a word Smith one of the greatest writers ever. Like you know, I'm on record staying at a million times like I just I And in my mind, she was, um, you know whatever Sean the rhymes was or has become, you know what I mean, one of those she was. She was one of those like she was really really, really really on her way. So I was, I was, I was devastated to hear that news yesterday. Yeah, she's been on the Breakfast Club. I believe as well. I'm not. I'm trying to remember she was. She sat in a

couple of times, but I think believe. Yeah, Yeah, she's been on Breakfast Club. But she used to, you know, just come to the studio and kick it. She just be able to kicking it with me or whatever. That's a yeah, that would Um, that would that that hurt different? That that hit different, that hit different, it hurt different. Yeah, that wouldn't that one? Uh? That would? That one has me, um really thinking about a lot of things. Twenty twenty year has been a wild year. The past couple of

years have been a wild year. But you know, it's like when you are already emotionally and mentally and spiritually exhausted just because of you know, the world that we're in, when you get that type of news on type of everything else that's going on, it's like trauma on type on top of trauma. So that's how I feel to day. I feel like a new day, same old trauma. But yeah, that that one, that one hurts in a real way. So definitely rest in peace jazz fliers, Jasmine boards and

condolences to her family. Make condolences their family, and condolences their brother, her sister or mom. Yeah, father, talked to their brother yesterday, spoke to her sister for us yesterday, talked to their mom this morning. But yeah, it sucks, Yeah, it really does. Really right sucks. All right, well again, rest in peace to Jasmine jazz fly oh Man, all right, Well today Ebony Kay Williams will be joining us. Yep,

of course, you know, she's an attorney. We're gonna be talking about everything from and she's State of the Culture. She's on State of the Culture. We're gonna be talking about a lot. We're gonna be talking about the officers that we charge. We're gonna be talking about defunding the police. We're gonna be talking about political things. So we're gonna talk to Ebony Kay Williams in a little bit. And we got front page news popping off. What are we

talking about? In front page News, We'll be talking about a second wave of coronavirus and what places where it hit the hardest. All right, we'll get into that next. Keeping lock this to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Angela Yee, Charlomagne the God. We all the breakfast club. Let's getting some front page news. Where were starting well? Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred is guaranteeing there will be a twenty twenty season, so get ready

for that. They're trying to figure out finances basically. So we'll give you us some more updates now. A second wave of coronavirus has hit Florida, Texas, and Arizona after reopenings, and according to the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, Eric Toner said, there is a new wave coming in parts of the country. It's small and it's distant so far, but it's coming. Florida, they reported new cases of the deadly illness and more than more than any other seven

day period. In Texas, hospitalizations went up six point three percent. That's the largest daily increase since the pandemic even started. And in Arizona, new cases have also reached an all time high on June second. I think that was expected and expected that. I don't think anybody didn't expect that. When people started going out and you start getting close quarters with people, Yeah, it's gonna spread. It's gonna spread more, but they said in some places it hasn't, though they

can't figure out why. And Georgia infections have dropped in California as well. You think it's because they're doing more testing since since and since everybody reopened, even doing more testing. So I don't know, because they haven't talked about the increase in testing, so not sure what the correlation is. But they said they haven't found a direct relationship between

states reopening and the increased cases. According to the White House Coronavirus Task Force, yes they still exist, but um, yes, so they're trying to figure that out. Now. Donald Trump is going to be going back out to do his rallies and the first place he's going to is gonna be Tulsa, Oklahoma on June team So June nineteenth, he'll

be there. And obviously Tilsa, Oklahoma was once a thriving African American business community and it was decimated back in nineteen twenty one when a racist white mob killed hundreds of black residents right yep, all because they were thriving black community, all because they wanted to stop black black progress, All because they wanted to stop black prosperity. The same country that you know tells you to pull yourself up by your bootscraps. As soon as you get some boots,

they cut your feet off. And that's exactly what they did in um and Tulsa, Oklahoma. And he's doing that on June teenth. Coincidence, I think not? No, definitely absolutely not a coincidence. You know, he made the announcement as he was meeting with some African American supporters of his

for a roundtable discussion, so clearly done purposely. At the same time, he's also up opposing efforts to no I said, unless he's going there because he wants to give that you know that that that that race that they've been contemplating whether he should give or not in light of

everything that's happening with George Floyd. Because what Donald Trump wants to do is make a play for male African American voters because he feels like if he gets into double digits with male African American voters, he will win in November. Now, at the same time, Donald Trump is opposing efforts to remove Confederate commanders names from military bases. He said he opposes any effort by the US military to rename the nearly one dozen major bases and installations

that have the names of Confederate military commanders. That would include places like Fort Bragg in North Carolina, Fort Hood in Texas, Fort ap Hill in Virginia. And even though they are well, they're open to having these conversations with the military basis, are open to having these bipartisan conversations. Donald Trump is saying he is opposing those efforts. Yeah, I mean, you know, you know, I'm I'm from Monst Corner,

South Carolina, born in Charleston. But you know, um, I've been having conversations with Damyra about, you know, removing Confederate memorials and things of that nature. And they actually have something called the Heritage Ack that protects certain monuments and memorials. So if they're on like private land or if there's some type some part of the some if they're on some type of private land and there's some part of the Confederate then they can't be removed without a vote

or something like that. I don't know, but we're working on it because there's no better way to uphold white supremacy than to continue to celebrate white supremacy. I know Virginia was Virginia was like that, crazy like Virginia. When I went to school at Hampton University, that's all you've seen was Confederate flags. That's the first time I really started to see him. Because you know me, being in New York, you don't never see him. I don't. I don't think you haven't seen it growing up in New

York City. But when I went to Yeah, but when I went to Hampton, oh my goodness. All right, well that is front page News. Get it off your chests eight hundred five eight five on five one. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Maybe had a bad day, bad night, or maybe everything is positive. You just want to vent a little bit, whatever it may be. Full lines to wide open callers. Now is the breakfast club. Good morning, the breakfast club? Wake up, wake up, wake up? Your time to get it off

your chest. Whether you're man or black, we want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this man? My name is Moose? What's up? Brog? Get it off your chest? Russian man? As a white man right boiling range in the Bronx. I want to say, right the whole racism thing hit me. I have to stop working out as a black problem. We need to work as a human problem. What it ry is? You know what I mean? It is a black problem, brother, I mean

it is a bad black problem. Problem. The thing is, black people are the ones that's getting killed by the hands of police and the hands of others. Well, I'm thinking as a white uh, we need to we need to ask the human problem. You're a side man, they can right, you know what I mean, that's not right man. It is a human problem. And I'll tell you something else. Black people cannot destroy your system that we didn't create.

So when it comes to the system of white supremacy and systemic racism that's keeping its uh, it's knee on all of our next. White people have to help this man of that. Absolutely. Hello, who's this? Yeah? This is horse from Queens Man. What's up, bro? Get it off your chest. Yeah, I got a big problem. We've had a moose. We've got a moose in a horse call up already. Yeah, everybody's always yelling now, man, you know what I'm saying. All these good cops out here, when

a black person did arrested, they'll talk. All the good black people out here. We didn't talk about the good cops. You talk about these bad ones, man. You know what I'm saying. The issues one thousand thousand good cops, all right, put about a thousand good black brothers. You know what I'm saying. We don't talk about that. Let's get the issue is, man, The issue is just bad cop man. You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of them out They're doing whatever they want. You know what I'm

saying with a supremematority out here. Okay, alrighty Rob, Yeah, yeah, get it off your chests eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If you need to vent, hit this up now. It was the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Did your time to get it off your chests? Whether you're man or blast, So we better have the same anything we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Lee Lee? Ain't Lee League? Get it off your chests? Hey, Breakfast Club,

y'all guys are great. I have to talk about tip. I live in Louis Fields Order and we have an extra play market, whether about info play and we have particial going around to get it a move. We have people that don't want to have removed playing its part of our history. I'm not understanding why every single day going downtown definitely don't want to see that. That's crazy.

He so crazy. Growing growing up in South Carolina something, you know, I always felt like I never saw, um, I never experienced over at racism, just because the person never called me that any words. I always thought it was covert. When you live in a town where you do see Confederate flags all over, state monuments or highways and schools are named after segregation, that's in ration. That's racist,

that's over at racism. Exactly, it's just particulars. You got people saying, at this point our history, we need to be as a stip to be able to tell I see, it's about where we came from. I didn't come from there. Who are these people saying that we have petitions one exactly, No, we're not more, not just them, not just white people. We have black people that they need to play there. Wow. And then particularly that we have one going around now

trying to get removed. You know that love of masses deep. Some of these negroes love love their masters and more than they loved their fellow black man or woman. We call them yet people. Yes, people communication because with everything. Yeah, but I just trying to get it out of my test. Like I said, we have oppetitions dot com. Um, please look up the link to try to sign the PARU. They help us out. All right, well, thank you, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one

on five one. Hello, who's this? Thank you? Good morning? How y'all doing this? Rico? Rico? What's up much? Good morning? Angela? Yee, Charlemagne, how y'all doing? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I just wanted to call um. I'm a young black man. I live in Florida. I have a small business. It's thriving. It's doing pretty good. So I'm just happy about that. Um. I've been doing my thing. I've been studying on the stock market and things of that. Nation. I've been looking

into getting into stop. So I'm just proud and just want to spread positivity. What's your small business? I have a landscape of business. Oh that's dope. Oh yeah, and it's it's been uh, it's been very busy. So I'm actually uh playing and all expanding and even looking into powering some employee. So I'm just I'm proud of myself, you know, and I'm thank you. We appreciate you. Rats on your business doing well, and I think it's up you're getting into the stock market. I was looking at

my stocks yesterday and that was depressing. But I just stopped looking at it for a little while. All right, well, get it off your chest. I looked. I looked at mine a couple of days ago, and I wasn't depressed. No mine neither. I did good with bowing anyway. Get it off your chest. Eight five, eight five, one oh five one. If you need to vent, you can hit this up. I want to get something off my chest. I am not doing it this morning. My mind is not on radio right now. I'm gonna be honest with you.

My mind is not on radio. I am mentally and emotionally and physically exhausted. I need to do like two hours of therapy. I really can't even think straat. I just want everybody out there to guard their energy and please, please, please take care of your mental health. I have never in my life more dedicated to helping people who have mental health issues. But to sit here and act like I'm okay, this morning. It's not going to work. I

am not okay. I am grieving. I am morning. I am confused, and I just want to say rest in peace to Jasmine Waters aka jazz Fly. All right, I need to get that out. I had to get that out. I wish I was that I could give you a big hug, brother. Could I want me give you a hug to the phone, brother, I want to hug you. I want to hug you. Goddamn hug. Let me hug you. Put your hands and put your arms out, brother, What is wrong with you? Put your arms out? I love you.

You really want to take advantage of me at the moment like this, I'm just saying, I love you, brother, I love you. You love me back? Come on say let me hear it. I do love you, I do love I'd love you. Get me hug. Just act like it all right. We got rumors on the way. I just yeah, I just can't sit here and act like I'm okay when I'm not okay. I really can't, and it'd be it's too fake. All right, Jasmine Waters, we

got rumors on the way. Yes, we are going to be discussing somebody who says that when she was six years old and she's a reality show star. She was chased by the Ku Klux Klan. All right, we'll talk about that when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is the Ruble Report with Angela yet Well. Lebron has partnered with other athletes and entertainers to start a group that's going to protect

the voting rights of African Americans. According to The New York Times, who spoke to him on the phone, the organization is called More Than a Vote, and they're going to peer up with other voting organizations and work to help to get African Americans to register to vote and to cast their ballot in November. He said, because of everything that's going on, people are finally starting to listen to us. We feel like we're finally getting a foot

in the door. How long is up to us, We don't know, but we feel like we're getting some ears and some attention, and this is the time for us to finally make a difference. We want you to go out and vote, but we're also going to give you the tutorial. We're going to give you the background of how to vote and what they're trying to do the other side to stop you from voting. Other people who have joined to help out the organization include Jalen Rose,

Skyla Dicken Smith, and Trey Young. So that's a great thing that's happening. Also, Georgia Democrats Stacy Abrams has who has Fair Fight, also advocated for fair elections and she said, we look forward to working with Lebron and other professional athletes in more than a Vote to stop voting suppression and protect the right to vote for black voters across the country. I mean, that's a that's a great cause. But it's not that black people don't want to vote.

It's just that you have to give black people something to vote for. People are not you know, they're not into the voting process because they feel like, you know, these Democrats, especially when it comes to the presidential candidates, haven't done anything for their communities. Like it's really just that simple, Like we got to stop putting the burden on people to vote and start putting the burden on Democrats to give voters something to vote for. If you

energize people, they're coming out. We showed, We've shown that time and time again. You just got to energize the black community. That's it. Give us something to vote for. Well, I think you can do both. You can encourage peop to go out and vote. Some people like Snoop or I think it was offset just voted for the first time because they didn't even know they could vote. And

then what we saw just happened in Georgia. People did go try and vote, and they were all kinds of issues with standing in line for hours, Locations were closing, people had difficulty with machines. Sometimes it's just the technical part of it as well. So anything that you can do, Yeah, yeah, I know they go out and vote. I'm just saying you, when you motivate Black people, they come out and drove. Look at Barack Obama in two thy twelve, ninety three

percent of African Americans voted for Barack Obama. If you give us something to feel like, we're motivated to vote for coming out in droves right and voting sixteen, we were motivated. And also voting is not just about the president, but as you know, people are voting in the primary. So I got to make sure that we always keep that energy going and always educate people on what's happening. Even right now to try to stop you from wanting

to vote, all right now. Portia Williams has bill that she was chased by the ku Klux Klan when she was only six years old, and her father, who was the legendary Josea Williams civil rights activists, was there with her. And she went to her first march when she was six. And here's what else she told Andy Cohen and watch what happens live being the granddaughter of a civil rights leader.

Where I was about six years old when I went to my first march, and it was here in Georgia and for South for Sithe County, and I was smacked in the face with racism. We came across klu Klux Klan who decided they were going to protest our protests, and they threw rocks at us. I actually got hit with one. They chased us back to the buses and called us the N word and any other thing you can imagine the KKK would be calling us. Yeah, imagine that she said they were going rocks at them, she

got hit by a rock and all of that. So they also had a Bravo Amplify Our Voices panel and she was on that panel as well. All Right, the Grammys was on with Candy and Gazelle Bryant from the Real Housewives. Apotomic okay O, Potomac. I think that's how you said. All Right, the Grammys is going to drop the word urban from the awards categories and they're going to stop using it now. So this is them trying

to launch a new chapter in their history. The prize for Best Urban Contemporary Album is now the Best Progressive R and B Album. If you guys recall Tyler, the creator, had said last year he didn't like he didn't like the term urban. Here's what he should say. On one side, I'm very grateful that what I made could just be, you know, acknowledged in the world like this. But also it sucks that whenever we and I mean guys that look like me, do anything that's genre bendinger, that's anything,

they always put it in a rapper urban category. And I don't like that urban word. It's just a politically correct way to say the N word to me. So when I hear that, I'm just like, why can't we just be in pop? A half of me feels like the rap nomination was a backhanded compliment. First of all, there's nothing wrong with the rap, unless, of course, you

aren't making rap music. And Tyler's case, don't understand why he feels like that if he isn't just making rap, he may not want to be nominated as a rapper. But if you started as a rapper, even if you explore other genres of music, aren't you still a rapper just doing other types of music? Yes, I think they should find a way to categorize the music, not the artists. I think that's what they do a lot of times

they don't. They categorize the artists when they should be categorizing in the music, Like if there's a guy that's a rapper, like they went all threw two thousand and made the Love Below are when Kanye made eight aweight in the Heartbreaks, they were rappers who explored other genres of music. They should categorize the music, not the artist. Well, best Urban contemporary album is about the music more than

the artist, because it's about that particular album. And if that album is not a hip hop album, or it's not an R and B album and it's in a different genre, I think he feels like it's just instead of saying pop. You know, people just because they're black get put into the urban category. But what is progressive contemporary music? That sounds stupid? Well, progressive R and B album is the category Bernie Sanders R and B album, When you drop stupids, the progressive R and B album,

that's what that is. That's what going R and b. Lum, It's gonna be the progressive R and B album from the Bronx. Yeah, that sounds crazy. Progressive R and B sounds crazy, all right, Wilham, Anie lady, And that is your rumor report. Yeah, what you got on your progressive R and B playlist? Sonu Man, right now, I got that new Bernie Man the Bird. What you got on yours? I don't know. I don't listen to progressive R and B. It's not my thing. It's not your thing. It goes

a little too far left for me. Stupid. We got out front page news coming up. What we're talking about progressiveness basically, No, actually, this is definitely not progression. We're gonna talk about two black teenagers in Oklahoma who were arrested did for jaywalking. All right, we'll get into that next. Keeping locked this to Breakfast club. Good morning, tj Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the gay We all the breakfast club. Let's get in some front page news where we starting you.

Two teenagers in Oklahoma were arrested and now they have sparked an investigation after videos showed the police were handling them very aggressively. One of the teenagers was being held onto the ground as he was saying, I can't breathe. The police did release bodycam footage. It's in Tulsa on June fourth. Plice jumped out of their patrol car to confront them for jaywalking and the situation escalated. The first team is apprehended. His friend is saying, why are you

choking him? All he was doing was jaywalking, and then one officer responded, we just want to talk with him.

Then he had to act a fool like that. The twenty minute video shows an officer remained on top of the teenager, who lay on his stomach even after he was handcuffed, and the teenager is begging the officer to police he stopped touching him, but the officers hands remained placed on the team and repeatedly he's pulling on his pants, grabbing his legs and crotch, and then the officers repeated to the teenagers that they broke the law because they jaywalked.

Is that ridiculous? Jaywalking tickets? Jaywalking tickets, I know they enforce you a lot in California. A lot in California, they enforce it. I mean, you couldn't possibly enforce it in New York, but I know they do it a lot in Cali. Now, the teenager was handcuffed first and was forced into a police car. He was yelling at profanities. He called the officers evil and a racist, and said that they arrested him because he's black, and he kept yelling,

called my mama, called my mama. He said, because I'm black, I'm a criminal. And then he screamed out black lives matter. And then the other teenager was let go. So now the only problem more investigation. The only problem with that is jaywalking really is illegal, but it's really just a sucker, a sucker, rude enforced. Like when the last time a cop gave somebody at jaywalking ticket. You gotta just give somebody a ticket, You have to arrest them, Like when

do you get arrested for that? Can't they just give you a ticket. They just give you a ticket. I don't know what it shouldn't be a ticket. If that m I feel like I've jay walked with the police before. I'm sure. All right. Well, George Floyd's brother was talking in front of Congress Filanes Floyd. He made an appearance, and here's what he has to say about police reform in law enforcement overhaul. People of all backgrounds, genders and

racists have come together to demand change. Honor them, and make the necessary changes that make law enforcement the solution and not the problem. Hold them accountable when they do something wrong. Teach them what it means to treat people with empathy and respect. Teach them what necessary forces. Teach him that deadly force should be used rarely and only when life is at risk. George wasn't hurting anyone that date. He didn't deserve to die over twenty dollars. Yeah, so

that's facts. Yeah, absolutely. And then you hear this jaywalking story that got extremely aggressive for something like jaywalking. I think that's ridiculous. So he wants to make sure that his brother's name isn't just another name on the list, and they want a whole law enforcement overhaul, and I think that makes perfect sense. And Nancy Pelosi was there, Kevin McCarthy was there, and there's you know, there's this whole conversation now that people are having about defunding the police.

So that was another issue that was happening at the same time. All right, And NASCAR has banned Confederate flags at their races, and Bubba Wallace made a statement, he said, the presence of the Confederate flag and NASCAR events runs contrary to our commitment to providing a welcoming and inclusive environment for all fans, our competitors, and our industry. Bringing people together around the love for racing and the community that it creates is what makes our fans and sports specially.

The display of the Confederate flag will be prohibited from all NASCAR events and properties. So I think that's you can't dismantle this mechanism of white supremacy. You can break down the system of systemic racism if you don't intentionally do it, Like these things have to be intentionally done the same way that they were intentionally created. They have

to be intentionally done, intentionally dismantled. All right, And yesterday the Louisville Metro Police Department and released the incident report for the night of March thirteenth. That's when Brianna Taylor was killed by three plane clothes officers who used a battering ram to break into her apartment. She was shot eight times, and if you saw this, it's pretty much blank. Like, most of the details on the incident report are blank.

They have her name on their there a case number, the time and date of the shooting, but a lot of the details were left blank, including her date of birth. Blank is the section for injuries, and the section for forced entry is marked off as no, even though they used a battering ram to break down her door. So yesterday is when they finally released that incident report. Yes, they said it. It's negligence, they said, at best, and an attempt to avoid being held to an official document

at worst. So it's either they just didn't care and didn't fill out their report because they were being negligent, or it could also mean that they were trying to make sure that they cover this up. Here's the thing, though, who holds them accountable for that when they're doing something so obvious. This is an obvious cover up. We all

know that they ran in the wrong house. They didn't have a warrant for that house, but even dropped the charge against against Brianna Taylor's boyfriend for shooting back at them. So who holds them accountable? Who holds them accountable for number one running into the wrong house, being negligent and number two clearly trying to cover their ass. Who holds them accountable? Well, that's what needs to happen right now. The FBI is investigating, and of course their police department

is investigating the shooting. But they haven't even been arrested, and they haven't even been fired, and they haven't been charged. For me to believe they're on an administrative leave, very hard for me to believe that FBI is that big brother in this situation. It's all law enforcement. They would

all look out for each other. I would think I could be wrong, but I would think that that's the way the way that goes because to me, if you feel out a report like that, you're clearly trying to cover your ass and we all know you made a mistake, so you should be held accountable. You can't do negligence and didn't turn around and try to cover your ass about it? Not right that somebody's dad. That is your

front page news. All right, thank you, miss ye. Now when we come back, Ebony Kay Williams will be joining us. You know they're from State of the Culture. She's been on the show numerous times. She's an attorney and we're gonna talk to about everything, all right, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee Chalomina guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We have a special guest in the building.

We have Ebony Kay Williams. Welcome back system. So good to see my family and many times y'all are doing important work. And I thank you for letting me join you. And congratulations to you. Ebony. I see you have a new show on Revote Black News. So it's gonna come out way twice twice a week. Yeah, so we'll be twice weekly. Angelo will be Tuesday and Thursday evenings nine pm Eastern six Pacific time, and it's gonna be a fantastic news hour, y'all. I mean, y'all know the best.

We've been needing this. We've been needing news that takes our cultural advantage point and considers our interests right, and collaborates that with deep analysis and conversation. So it's gonna be It's gonna be dope. And I applaud Puff the chairman of course of Revolt in the Revolt leadership team, for really making this happens. Let's get this some topics, right, Like I want to know why is defunding the police such a triggered people? Why are people so upset about

that term. Yeah, people are entirely triggered by it. And here's the thing. We on this platform, in this space, doing the work that we do, we know what that means. When they say defund the police. We know that doesn't mean dismantle the police. We know that simply means the police are they are out of their lane with a lot of the work that they're asked to do and

sometimes take upund themselves to do. So all we're saying is take some of that, some of those millions, and in the case of a you know, a status in city like New York, it's billions. They got billion dollars budgets for police here. So we take some of those billions of millions and redistribute that that money elsewhere in the community. So we can have what we've been promised.

So long community policing, right, so that goes to schools, that goes to community centers, that goes to after school programs. So take some of that responsibility. You will awful police because they were not supposed to be doing a lot of that part of it. Anyway. They need to worry about enforce and laws and let communities take care of themselves. Because defund people think gains take away all the funds because they didn't eradicate kind of what it means. And

what I love was what chance the rapper? He said, Well, they defund the education system all the time, So I don't see why this is what people are upset about. But I understand much. They don't call it that. Ye, but they don't call it. See, they don't call it that because people said, we don't defund social Security, they wouldn't get elected. And people said they're gonna defund medicare you know? So people, why what do they say? Instead,

We're gonna lower taxes? So perhaps that would be the messaging point here, right, What if we said we would like to save people money, all the citizens of America like to lower your taxes? By redistributing the funds for law enforcement. People would probably buy that, don't It's crazy that we don't even know where the money goes, Like we paid the six billions because it comes from our taxpayers money, but we don't necessarily know where it's six

billion dollars goals. Isn't it weird that they don't open up the books and say, hit, this is what the money's on. Well, it's not weird because a lot of the money is going into their pockets. Oops. Did I say that out loud on this platform. Here's the thing you're hitting to exactly why personally, I have extremely conservative fiscal policies politics. I think the government has been a

steward of our money since inception. I think we spend billions and millions in ways that we'll never see, whether it's infrastructure, whether it's our roads and highways, our schools hardly publicly are hitting our shoet. You know, we're spending money there, but we're not seeing a result. We're spending money on, like you said, billions of dollars on military grade equipment in all this shoe It's nuts. So that's a whole nother conversation about politics based in really financial

money grabs. You're asking for billions and billion trillions of dollars from us. It's taxpayers, that's our money. That's how hard our money, y'all v take a good forty percent of my income and doing what with it? Exactly? I don't like the return. I don't like the return. You're

in a high tax bracket. I can tell they take, and actually in the worst tax bracket, Angela, because I make just enough money to be in the worst bracket, but not enough money to start getting advantage of all of the highest highest a millionaire, the multimillionaire brackets right where now they're getting tax breaks beyond belief that those people really end up paying closer to twenty two percent. And it's crazy and it's crazy. And you spoke about messaging,

which I think is very important. Why can't Democrats get their messaging right? And this is what I mean by that. When you ask Joe Biden about the funded police, I think he got it wrong. I think Senator Harris got it perfectly. Senator has explained to the way you explained. Donald Trump took that the funded police and said they wanted to fund the police. They want to abolish the police. Two different things, but it worked. Why did that speak

more than what Senator Harris said or Joe Biden said. Well, the answer is cognitive dissonance, which is a way in which people believe what they want to believe and if you give them just an inch. So that's what Trump does. He did it in this campaign. What do you call him? Deport the Mexicans? And by that, you know he says, I just mean the murderers and the rapists and the druggles. But we saw when it went into actual action that

was who was being deported at all. You're deporting children, You're deporting you know, people that have paid money into our taxes to thirty years. You're deporting people that starting now you're don't you say's military. But the messaging was so strong and it's what his base wanted to hear that it worked. So you know, Biden, messaging ain't its strength, Charlemagne,

which would you want me to say that is true? Well, evany another since we're talking about messaging, right, another thing that you spoke about, and I saw you speaking on this is the hold your vote hostage and the messaging behind that. So I went you to explain what you said about why it is important for us to not put out that type of messaging. Indeed, since so I personally, I really hate that messaging and I think it's extremely problematic.

I think it's extremely dangerous for two reasons. I'll start with the basic premise, uh that folks in general, and so that includes us as black volks, we don't want to go to vote at the polls, no way, we already don't want to do that. So all people need

is that reason. So if they get to say, idols like my brother, here's Charlemagne, and idols like my boss and revolte Puff and other major credible leaders in our community are giving them, using my term here, an excuse to stay at home anyway, not have to go out, and don't let it be reigning on election day. You know, I asks ain't trying to get out there, you know. So then they get to say, ah, don't gotta go anyways,

we're having a substantive boycott on the issue. And just like in twenty sixteen when you talked about this recently, Charlemagne on MSNBC, over four million people stayed home. Stayed home, and we see the devastating and a third of them were black. And Michelle Obama spoke about this and her documentary Becoming She's really mad at us, and so damn. That's what happens when we to me abandon our post.

That's what we did in twenty sixteen. We got to do some backtracking just to get to where we were. It can be done, but it's not gonna be done with no messages talking about hold your vote, hostagen and boycott the ballot. That ain't gonna do it. Second thing I have with and is unpopular opinion Black people make a huge difference in elections. That is correct, Charlomagne. Don't for one second mistake that as political power. That is

not political power. Let me tell you what political power is, shar Political power is when you can pick up the telephone and you can call you're sitting US senator, you're sitting US congressman, you're sitting mayor, you're sitting governor, you're sitting United States president, and they take your call and act. Why not because you voted for them? Because that's really a kind of back end transaction. The voting part, Nah they pay attention to and they are politically powered by

front end Transactions. Front End Transactions is funding their campaigns from its onset. The NRA has political power. You know, we black folks, we love to pay our ties and we should do that. But the Jewish community members, I know y'all treat apet like it's tidy. They pay it like it's a bill because they know their political life and their community interests depend on it. Hi, we have more with Ebaney K Williams when we come back, so don't move. It's to breakfast club. Good morning ej Envy

Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. We're kicking in with Ebaney K Williams, Charlomagne. What about regular everyday people who just want to leverage their vote, or what if regular everyday people decided, you know what, I'm going to form my own political party. Black people are gonna have their own party like the Tea Party, and we're gonna vote in blocks. Because everybody not rich, everybody can't donate money tothing. You mentioned what we ca Andrew.

We could donate fifty dollars to a pack, Charlemagne. We should be talking about pass so creating a black pack for creating your own party here's the thing about creating your own party. I'm just gonna be candid with you. I would love to see the day in theory that we can have an independent third party, because you know, I'm an independent and been one for over ten fifteen years. Because I don't really like either one of these parties.

We've had this conversation, but these parties they're too big to fail. The infrastructure behind both the Republican and Democratic parties hundred years old. They've got a trillion dollars and the infrastructure is too big to fail. So a third party will always just be symbolic. That's the truth. When it comes to political power play, I might recommendation, y'all, for black political power to take that electoral influence that we do have at the polls. Don't give it up

by boycotting a vote. That's not smart as then they're gonna say, well, then black people are giving us some money. Black people, I'll turn it out to vote in general, because you're not gonna get even if black people did what you know you're you're potentially suggesting, charl we didn't go vote for Biden. Most of us are not about to go vote for Trump. So now we just take ourselves out of the equation, and you best believe that train moving forward with it. About that, I'm not telling

people not to vote. What I'm saying is what you're essentially saying. We have to find a way to get something for our vot You got to demand something for your vote because if you vote for a party ninety percent of the time, when you talk about going back to where we were, where's the black community going back to black community? Black community been into shambles all these But another thing, another thing evaning you pointed out was also talking about just the legislation and just the judges

and all of that. That's also what Donald drum has done a while he's empowered. That's pointed. That's my answer to your shaw Angel just gave it to you what we're a black people going back to all of that, and that matters to me more than anything. You're gonna

do it for eight years. Those federal appointments are lifetime, y'all, and they make decisions about everything from schools to prison to church freedom, religion, all the basic tenets of our society are actually controlled and dictated to us through the United States Supreme Court and other federal courts, federal appellate courts,

federal district courts. So yeah, very hard, very hard to convince black people in the hood that they can vote their way out of their circumstances because they've never seen it doesn't matter, but they can't. I actually agree with you on that. Now, that's where we agree, my friend. We cannot vote our way, and that's what I'm saying. That's the voting is simply a starting point. It is when I submit to you, we should not and cannot

afford to give up. But I really want to get back to this pat because to me, that's the only thing we haven't done yet that I think really could make a difference. So now let me ask you a question about let's say, like what Shallemagne and did. He said, like, you know what, whold on, Joe, We're not just gonna be black and just say because you're Democrat, were going to vote for people. Let's let's see what you're gonna do for our community first. Let's let's say to step back.

I almost feel like as a community, like what the Jewish community would do, we take a step back and say, hold on, bro, you ain't gotta'll vote Jack, What are you gonna do for our community? You will get all these other places you talk about NLRA. They take care of NLRA, they take care of Planethood, they take care of then the police commissions and all those, but they never take care of us. They haven't even at least swing in the game. And you need to be a

make that call, just like the NRA. Yes, yes, three k I'm okay, okay, pause, pause everybody for two seconds. I hear you, and I hear you lotting queer, and you're all making excellent points. That's where I push you back into your right. The reason why they don't they take care of those people and they don't never take care of They don't never take care of us. We all agree on that because we're not even in the game. That's what y'all. I want you to really get that. Shop.

We think we're in the game because we show up and we vote religiously, but we're not in the game. Voting doesn't get you in the game. It's only influenced. It's not power. And I disagree that we can't do what these communities do. There is a lot of black not just wealth. Of course, there's individuals in the black community. We have black billionaires. They can write those big twenty million dollar checks to get us started. But that's not really what's going on in a pack. That's not really

what's going on in play a parenthood. What's happening is everyday people that are deeply passionate about women's reproductive rights and deeply passionate about Israel, or deeply passionate about their jobs as police officers, are their jobs as teachers. They're giving two thousand dollars a year religiously. They might you know, they're giving fifty dollars a month religiously, but they're doing it to end these points in an organized fashion. Listen,

we can't act like collective pressure having change. The conversation's been talking about jo Biden's been talking about race a lot, or he's been saying how you want to dismantle systemic racism. Now that conversation about having a black woman running made is a real thing at the forefront. Because up until about a few weeks ago, it was Vaulaball claiming Amy Corbutchell yep um, uh yeah, no, no, no, listen, I'm not mad. Sorry, I'm not mad at at at at

the pressure. I like the pressure, keep the keep the block hot, and we need to keep the black hot after this moment that we're in right now, right, So we agree about that. I just I simply was saying that's to me that that's I hope that was a bluff tactic, and I think it's worked in our favor. But to actually stay home on November third, we can't do that. Well, No, but did hit the problem? This

was scared to me. If you look at two thousand and sixteen, this looks very similar to two thousand and sixteen. We still don't know how Trump won name double didn't you know? Yeah? No, no, no, y'all don't know how Trump won. I came on y'all show as soon as that went down, and I told you I knew because I was inside the building over there Fox News. I knew they were they were organized, They had a they had a singular voting interest. Y'all. Hear about single issue voters.

Trump was elected because of millions and millions and millions and millions of white people across this country. They had a single issue. You know what it was to keep their knee on our next as black people as Hispanic people and anybody else that is not of their birthright of whiteness and their for superiority in America. And Trump ran on that. He ran on it, y'all, you know, unapologetically, and they voted on that issue. That's how you wanted. I knew he was going in. You know, I don't

think did good that nobody paid attention to. Well, I'm sure they did, and you did because you probably he was over there. But for eight years they demonized barrocc Obama. Yeah, it seem un American. He was the end of democracy. And we were so happy about Obam we weren't paying attention to what was getting riled up on the other side.

But it wasn't definitely wasn't going for no more black people, and definitely wasn't going for a woman after that, wasn't going for no they wasn't going for anybody that wasn't aggressively upholding and violently enforcing the status quo of black subordination, women staying in their place and white men maintaining their their implicit power structure in America. Barack Obama said, there's a new place for black men in America, and it's in the White House, and these white folks weren't having

it evany. What are your predictions for our November? I was feeling good, Angela, and then you said that, Um, well, listen, I think anything's possible. In all sincerity, I do. I do think anything's possible. I'm a woman of faith. I think when and I do believe he will because I think he knows he really has to. I don't think Joe Biden is a dumb man, and I think he

recognizes this moment. And I think he has some brilliant black women on his team, including my sister Simone Sanders, who is gonna tell him he really don't have a choice at this point if he wants any kind of black voter turnout, but that ticket with him. Yeah, he got to. He got to. He got to. Even if you don't want to, it don't matter. We got to. Otherwise it's gonna be twenty sixteen all over again. To Charles point, we will stay home, all right. We got

more with Eboney Kate Williams. When we come back, don't move. It's to breakfast club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy we are the breakfast club we're kicking in with Ebony Kate Williams. You're a public defender rights prosecuted a lot of cases, How defended a lot of cases? We're defending a lot of cases. How difficult would it be to prosecute the killers of George Floyd, those four officers? How difficult it's I'm gonna

tell y'all, it's gonna be extremely hard. Don't don't even get your hopes up. And saw Kamala said essentially the same thing on the view just a couple of days, and I'm in I'm gonna tell you why. And I told already told you this, Aby you want you, I love you, Manby. I told you this already back in two thousand and eighteen. Because even though we have the cameras, uh and we all saw what happened. The current statue that that dictates it's deadly forced for officers simply requires

it to be deemed reasonable, you know. And and that's that's open to any kind of interpretation. I'm actually and I'm so excited to share this with you. This was the main reason I was so looking forward to joining y'all today. In addition to what Corey and Soar Kamala have put out which is important that I want people to really make noise about that. But the reality is

that packaging is very comprehensive. It's extremely broad, and it has zero bipartisan support a single Republican it's not getting passed, and and and it's just that they can use it as a marketing tool though they should use it, and that's important. Look, look, look what I'm doing. Look what we're doing. They won't pass it, but keep applying the pressure so that when and this is really how politics are playing, and it's brilliant, um it can be very effective.

So what they're doing is extremely important and necessary for the work that I'm involved in. So right now I'm working with a very experienced legislative team, and you know you're aware of this work, chadle Man, you know, you know exactly what I'm referred to. And what we're doing is drafting similar legislation, but that is much more specific, not nearly as broad, and it speaks exactly like I was like, I'm not even working with y'all if y'all

don't get this peer on the paper. We are elevating the deadly forced standard from one of fear, reasonable fear to necessity. Now that Burt will be on the officers to prove that deadly force was necessarily, absolutely objectively deemed by a reasonable officer standard necessary to use deadly force. And now when that is the law of the land, Envy, that is when we will see some kind of convictions for the killers of George Floyd. But right now it's

not there, but we're working on it. I'm excited about it. We're trying to get it past. We're literally drafting it with Democrat and Republican Coast sponsors so that will be brought into the table. I told you this show to made you didn't want to hear it in twenty eighteen, but you appreciate it. My point, which is sad but true, law enforcement has to be a part of this conversation

to the legislation we're drafting. We're we're getting, if not full buy in consideration from law enforcement organizations across the country, particularly black law enforcement organizations, because when we do this, y'all, it makes offices safer, that's the truth. They get safer when they are accountable. Because the black community and other communities of color or or oppression are not. There's more trust, there's more trust between the communities. So yeah, I'm excited

to work on it. It will be rolled out very soon. You will be hearing details all of y'all about it and your audience. And when it is rolled out, this is where I need people to step up because people have been dming me share. You to be a huge favor and I appreciate you so much. Whether you posted that twenty eighteen video recently on your Instagram and now

I'm flood with d ND. I'm gonna tell you what you need to do is when I come back here or you know, relate it to y'all and you guys related to your audience that I tell you this is the legislation, make noise, put it on social Call your congressmen and women, call your senators literally, and when there is a ground swell that looks like this protest movement that's going on right now, they will have no other choice but the past, because this will be our mandate

and it looks like you said something that's very important, because you know, it does get frustrating when people act like certain folks aren't doing the work, so like just because you don't see us on the front line. The protest doesn't mean that things aren't getting done because there's a lot of things moving that people have no idea. And by the way, that's the way I think Black people, I think that's the way we should move. We got to keep our heads that and do the work. And

that's important. That's so forth schar and I know every single one of us in this conversation is doing a lot behind the scenes, and I think there's definitely space for different people to have different roles. Some people will be on the front line, some people who moved behind the scenes. Yeah, both of those. The work sister to Mika Mellory, man, it's transformative. You know, the power of

visibility until freedom and right now. I spoke to her yesterday and she can't even say where she is because she's getting so many death threats because she is so visible. But she's got so powerful doing the work. Powerful, Yeah, man, so so that that am of it has to be in gear, like it's a process, y'all. But thank you, Evany.

We appreciate you so much. I think you know when you come on, when you come on this platform and you're able to speak about all these different things that might be confusing for some of us and bring some clarity is really beneficial and helpful. And I know, as always just so intelligent, heart is in the right place. Excited for your new show on a Vote TV, black Man, Congratulations,

love everything. I love everything you're doing, Angela. You are stills you know, so ball, so entrepreneurial beyond the media work. I love what you're doing in real estate. I love what you're doing in the Brooklyn community. Um, you're just fantastic sister, and you're such a queen and we love you. Sear you know how I feel about you. Bro it Uh,

it goes no bounds. I truly credit you solely for introducing me to this aspect of our culture from a media standpoint, But not for you me hosting black news on Revolt probably would not be happening. And I'm aware of that, and I'm grateful to you for that. Envy. Um, you and what you represent for the culture. Your family, uh is so beautiful. Your leadership and your family model is beautiful and powerful to me. And I just appreciate y'all what you guys stand for in the cultures. It's invaluable.

So love y'all love all right, An it's about this angela need the breakfast club. Well, Trevor Noah and I viewed Joe Biden on his daily social distancing show, and amongst the things they talked about, what are some of the fears that Joe Biden has in the upcoming elections. Here's what he had to say. My single greatest concern this president is going to try to steal the selection.

This is a guy who said that all mail in ballots are fraudulent, voting by mail while he sits behind the desk in noval office and racious mail in ballot to vote in the primary. Duh. Yes, I've been saying that we don't even know how Donald Trump won in twenty sixteen, and it's the same exact scenario now. Hillary was leading to all the polls and double digits. Members

of the GILPE was saying they don't support Trump. You had Russian interference, voter suppression, voted depression because people weren't enthused about Hillary. And we're facing all those same things this year. So yeah, that's why when I hear Democrats say the only way to beat you know, beat that is to have the largest voter turnout in US history. I'm sitting there thinking like, well, hope, it's not a strategy. How are you going to make that happen. You gotta

make that happen. Leaning to your base, your basis black people, had a black woman running mate come up with a radical police reformed policy, radical criminal justice reform policy, and a tone for America's original scene, which is slavery. Goddamn it with reparations. Another thing that they discussed was Joe Biden, as you know, is not does not want to defund the police. And here's what he had to say about defunding the police and what he does things should happen.

I don't believe he should be defunded, but I think the conditions should be placed upon them. Were departments who are having to take significant reforms relating we should set up a national use of force standard. If they don't sign onto it, then in fact they don't get any the federal money. In addition that they have to demonstrate that they'll release all the data that relates to misconduct by police, that all has to be sent to the Justice Department. If they don't send it to the Justice

Department nationally, they don't get funding. I just think they need to change the word defund since the word defund is absolutely it don't understand that trigger, yeah, because I get it. Well. The definition really is to take away the funds. So that's what it is is. And some people are saying they want to dismantle the police department and defund the police department. Some people are saying, no, we want to reallocate that money. So that's what's confusing. Yeah, exactly,

And that's exactly what it is, is a reallocation. You're taking money from them big ass police budgets and putting it back into the community. It's really a simple concept. They just need to come up with a better way to I guess frame it right. And there's also different

people who want different things. So you just have to be I think, very specific because when people hear these huge talking points and then it's not broken down right all right, Now, you'd be a fool who they want to abolish the police or just paying the police, like you need some type of law and order. I just think you need police officers from the community that understand the community. That's what I think you need, right, And they do have some places where they did dismantle a

whole police department. So that's also what's confusing because the people are bringing that up and they're like, oh, well, this worked in this town in Jersey, so this could work somewhere else. And that's really what it is. So different people are asking for different things, so it's important to be specific with what your ask is, all right.

Beyonce is reportedly set to sign a one hundred million dollar Disney deal, which is huge, and they're saying she's been a major player for Disney and she's a perfect fit for the brand. She voiced Nala in The Lion King, and she's working on a number of different projects for them. She's gonna be voicing Nala in the reboot of The Well besides that, they're also trying to secure her for

some more projects as well. She'll be on the soundtrack for the Black Panther two movie that's coming out in twenty twenty one, and two additional blockbusters, and she's also providing music for Disney film soundtrack. So they're saying she could also continue her work as a voice actress. Yeah, saw that. They denied that yesterday. I wonder, I wonder why I don't wonder why they. I mean, it's not because it's not like it's bad news. Yeah, maybe, and

they want more money, you know what I mean. And it also is that they're not saying that she has signed the deal. They said that she's in talks about it, so maybe they're denying that deal is done. I don't know. The rev denied it denied. I don't know. All right, the Wendy Williams Show has been renewed for a twelfth season, So congratulations to her. She said, I want to go. You know, she's been wanting to go back and do the show. Right now, they're not on the air obviously,

she's been dealing with her Graves disease. But they have already decided to renew that show even though they're on hiatus. Right now, we're dropping a clues bunch from Wendy Williams. That's good. Glad that Mandy still getting them money. Plash out the Wendy's still getting her money. I'm sure she'll have DJ Susswan on there a few more times getting his check, you know, So Suss one DJ on there two, Yeah, suss one numbering on Windy a couple of times. You

never seen Wendy on their lusting over sus One. I love her some suss One. Oh yeah, they just you know, they just seem heightened. And because I think she's like six two sixty three, he's like six two six three. They would be a great couple. I really think, I really, I'm not even joking. I think DJ suss One sus Windy Pool would be a dope couple. That's right, doesn't fool you know? The pools, the pools. We need to make the pools happen in Windy Pool like that. Let's

put that together. When yes, when these when these birthday is next month? Wow, cancer like I am. Maybe we can make make make something happen, make something official happen between DJ such One and Windy Williams. I like the pool and Windy Pool. I like that. Now you're thinking, I do. I like that? I do? All right, Well there you go. I report you've never seen suss One on Windy show when Windy when do you be making stuffs? Come from behind the DJ boof and walk like a

worn away model? Really like, come over here, sus walk for me? What you never seen? No? Wo no, man, it's so adorable. Oh my goodness that you're having his nice first day at school outfits on. That's DJE dropping the fools bomb for the pools. That's right, that sounds that's real love and windy pool So I like it. I like it. I like the energy between them all right. Now when we come back, when you're giving that donkey to Charlomagne, I don't know, man, be honest with you.

I'm just sitting here pretending to be happy this morning. So don't figure it out, all right, and don't forget next hour we do ask ye, So you could get on the phone lines right now eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need relationship advice, hit ye right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, donkey. At the date you get the dunky you are, I'm gonna fatten all that around your They want this man to Doten blowers. Man, they're wait for Charlomagne to top

these gloves. Let's go have to make a judgment. Who was gonna be on the Donkey of the Day. They chose you because the Breakfast Club bitch you. Who's donkey of the day today? Donkey of today for Thursday June eleventh, goes to Bob Harrying and his wife Tamera. It's a Tamera or Tomorrow. I never heard a white woman named Tamara or Tomorrow. But if you don't know who Hamera is, she's the latest Karen caught on camera harassing people who

are not the same honkey colored hue as her. Okay, this human jar of helmets had the nerve to make a racist comment to a young lady by the name of Corina Rodriguez. Dropped on the clues bombs for Karina Rodriguez. Okay, let's go to kp n X NBC twelve to hear what happened. Now, a husband is apologizing after a racist tirade by his wife went viral. Pretty, where were your there? Where are your ancestors? Straw from this country? You you better go back to you just know you're just walking.

Yeah he deserved. Greg Kahn captured the now viral confrontation on camera at a super Pumper gas station near Seventh Street in Greenway in North Phoenix. Are you the manager? Immediately her? Yeah, you're not so. That was Karina's response to Tamara. Tamara's husband now admits her remarks are unacceptable and is apologizing to Karina, the woman on the receiving

end of those racist remarks. See Bob says his wife is not the manager at the gas station and claims she has suffered from an undiagnosed mental illness that she has refused to get treated for more than a year. Y'all remember that story, right see off the ether first, Lady Michelle Obama says, when you go low, we go high. Well, your uncle Charlotte says, when they go low, take it to the floor with them, especially in regards to matters of racist rhetoric. Okay, you call me a racial slur,

I'm gonna call you one back twice. All right, you put your hands on me, I'm gonna do with Karina Rodriguez did, and slap the mayonnaise out your mouth. Not if you're a woman, of course, my wife would do that, But if you are a male of the white race, you're getting these Melani covered mittens applied to your nose

bone if you approach me with some type of racist slur. Okay, Now, Tamara got smacked and she did what most racist Karen's do after instigating a situation and suffering consequences from it. And that's played a victim. Now, Tamara's husband, Bob, was on Foxton in Phoenix, and he decided to apologize for his wife's tamarous behavior. Let's let's let's hear what Bob had to say, Karina. I don't know what to say. I'm just so sorry. I'm just so sorry that this happened.

You never walked into that store thinking something like this was going to happen. I understand. I'm sorry sorry for what she said. It was very hateful, it was it's indefensible. But I just have to tell you that's it's her mental illness. A year ago, she would never have done, would never have even thought of that. I'm gonna tell you something. I believe him. Racism is a mental illness. It has to be. Yes, It's it's a learned behavior

as well. But I do think there's some learned behaviors that can drive you crazy, okay, because a lot of learned behaviors just aren't healthy. And racism is one. Just think about racism. The pure definition of racism prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. You simply don't like someone. You simply look down on someone because of what they are, because of what they were born.

Ass that doesn't seem like some sort of paranoids gets you for anny to you. Bob said he's not excusing Tamera's racist ramp, but says her mental illness started a year ago because of a break in at their home, and she says that. He says she developed paranoia and signs of fabrication, and he hopes to slap video would be enough to convince Tamera to seek treatment for her issues. I need to know the race of the person who broke in her house. If the person was a white man,

would she still be afraid? Would she still be paranoid? And if you are so afraid of people, why are you running down on them. If you're so afraid of a person, you stay away from them, not press them. You social distance from them when you're afraid of them. Okay, you don't run up on them in stores and call them racial slurs. Bob once again said he hopes to slap is the wake up called Tamara needs. And that's

the way life works. So I want everyone out there listening to me to be wise and not just smart, to be wise, because smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others. So either learn from people like Tamara are Life might have to slap you in the face to get your attention. Please let Kathy Griffin give Tamara Harrian the biggest he hall. Please give this giant jar of male the biggest he hall. All right, well, thank you for that. Yeah, I just

faked my way through Donkey to day. Though I've been faking the whole show. I'm not in the mood. I don't feel like it. I honestly don't even want to be here. But then again, I do want to be here because running your mouth is therapeutic and I need at least a two hour therapy session today because it's very hard to discuss so much other meaningless stuff when

you have heavy things on your mind. And I am highly confused this morning because yesterday I lost a good friend, a homie, a creative partner who goes by the name of Jasmine Waters aka jazz Fly and Jazz is someone who I spoke to a lot, not just spoke to, but leaned on, went to for support, went to for advice. She always knew the right things to say she always had the realest, most meaningful things, you know to say

she did not waste words. And I'm still downloading processing what happened yesterday, and I haven't allowed myself the opportunity to feel my fields yet. I just want to encourage people to check on your strong friends often because usually as strong friends or to go to, and when the go to doesn't have anyone to go to, that can be a scary lonely feeling and strong friends when you get checked on. It's okay to be vulnerable, It's okay to be perceived. It's week. Week is fleeting. We y'all

get weak. That's why you have a tribe. That's why you have a village. Nobody will fall if everyone is each other's crutches. But please find someone to talk to. If you haven't okay, if you haven't tried therapy, go we all need a If you need a grief counselor find one, psychiatrists, something, Just find someone to talk to. Please. I don't care what you are going through on this planet.

You are not a loan so r I p to my homie Jasmine Waters aka jazz Fly, And as I sit contemplating the meaning of life this morning, because when people close to you pass, you start questioning your own mortality and you start thinking about life and what does it all mean? And per usual. Even though she's not here physically, Jazz Jasmine is giving me the answers. So listen to Jazz Wax poetic about what she feels the meaning of life is. I can't speak for anybody else.

I think for me, it's about figuring out who I am. That's been my process, and for me it came from a surrender moment and from there it has been a ten year journey or so since. And I think that that's where I started to just sort of whittle away piece by piece. Oh this is I'm the person that like, I'm hard headed, I'm They told me for years don't touch the iron, and then when I was four, I walked into the iron and just laid my hands on it and got three degree burns. Like, I'm that person.

So I'm the person that needs to be. I need to figure out what I'm not in order to figure out who I am. And that's been a journey for me. But at the end of that was joy. You gotta find the joy, all right. I'll rest in peace and condolences to you bro and definitely her family and friends. All right, yes, all right. Up next is ask Ye eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need relationship advice and any type of advice, call

ye now is the breakfast club? Good morning? What? What? What? What? What you wanna know baby mama issues, sneaks and words and wisdom? Call up now for asking eight hundred five eight five one oh five one A breakfast club. Come on, need relationship advice, need personal advice, just need real advice? Hall up now for ask Ye Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela, Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the breakfast club. It's time for asking Ye. Hello. Who's this? This roles from the

south side, Jacksonville, and what's she question for you? I'm trying to see how can I kind of my baby mama about taking me off back child support? Okay, so she's not willing to do that, or you're you're trying to figure out the steps of going to the court where you first got the child to world order and

what I know, the steps to the court. But it's like, how do I explain to her, like as far as being a black woman, like how stipulations on a black man about not being there for our child, Like my child she's only three years old, and I think in her life at the beginning and the situation where my baby mama had, you know what I'm saying, got me put in jail because of the situation. I don't want to put it out, but she got me put in jail. I got out, I got a job, and now she

put me on back child sport. You know, I'm not mad that I'm on child sport, but it's like back chot suport, you know what I'm saying. And I've been in my child like since she was turning the beginning, she's GONI three. How do I get her saying? You know what I'm saying, my point of view, I can't get a feminist check. You know what I'm saying. I'm an essential work I have a pretty good job, but I can't get any fact returns. You know what I'm saying.

I'm trying to be a black owned business owner. It's but I can't because it's like I'm stuck and she don't understand, Like I don't think she really understand like what she did and how much it affects me and how much. You know what I'm saying, I really can't move it now. And the whole reason why I want to move it because I know you said you've been in your child's life, but have you been financially supporting your child? Yeah, it's the beginning. I mean, you know

she's going three. So what you guys need to do is I would if I would, You're in a different relationship, you said. Now, yeah, we're both in a different relationship. You know what I'm saying, it's we're all cordial. It's never easy. Well you know, thing going on with does but it's like, man, my baby mama can never seemed to see and it's all about the child, and it's

like to her, it's like she don't get that. It's like the only while I'm in this why she put me in this piggima is because of how she feel no offend before my daughter. Why don't y'all try to compromise, Because I think a lot of things when it comes to stuff like this, compromise is always the best answer.

So maybe there's a way that you guys can do, just a written agreement with each other that you'll give her an extra certain amount of money or whatever per month until that's paid off if she'll take you off a court ordered back support of child payment child support payment written agreement. Yeah, just you and her. You have a written agreement, somebody witnesses it, you can sign it, and that will stand in the court. But that way she might feel more comfortable knowing that you'll do it.

But that way she's taking you off of that back payments so that it's not in the court system, so you can't move and do what you need to do. Because I think that's a good proposition for you to come to her with. Maybe it's an amount that y'all agree on, and you'll say, for the next you know, two years, I'll give you an additional three hundred dollars or whatever, additional to add up to whatever amount y'all agree on, if she would take off that court ordered

back child support. All right. I mean I tried. I mean I feel like I didn't try to perform. Man, it was so hard for us black man, you know what I'm saying, especially the ones that I actually in their child's right, you know. So, I mean, you proposed that compromise to her where you said, I'll do this, but I just don't want it to be court ordered through the courts, right. But yeah, but it's like it's like she scared that, you know what I'm saying, when

should do that? Like I won't give her no money, you know what I'm saying, even when I was even when she put me on child support, when I got money, like the court didn't even know and at that time, I didn't even know that she put me on child support, and I would stood get with her money. Money is not the issue. Money is not the issue. The issue is just the fact that she got me in I know.

That's what I'm saying. And that's why I think if y'all do just between y'all too are written agreement getting notorized so she has it, she might be more comfortable knowing. And then if you preach that, then tell her she could put you back on and just make sure you handle your responsibilities. Tornado person, All right, any I appreciate it. How'd you get that? Gasps it? Okay, you're trying to

fad fast as out. I'm hustling. I'm hustm. I ain't mad at your brother well keeping, and I'm telling you compromise. Just come to her with a solution. A lot of times we have issues. Take me off. This is stopping us. But here's a solution so that both of you can get what it is that you need. Okay, I proposed that ANDREI I appreciate all of y'all. Man, I'm I appreciate what y'all do for man, and y'all just keep doing it because you know that's what we need. We

need a voice, you know, we need a voice. Okay, and let us know what happens. Ask ye eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If you need relationship advice here ye Now it's the breakfast Club, Go Morning, Coma keep for real what you get some real advice with Angela. Ye, it's ask Ye Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela, Yee, Charlomie, Nick Guy. We all the breakfast Club in the middle of ask ye Hello, who's this? Hey Katie? Hey Katie,

what's your question for ye? So I recently got out of a ten year relationship and it was very unhealthy for me and my kids. And towards the end of that relationship, I met someone and he was more of a friend and now it's turned into more than that. But he's been hurt, so he's kind of like not able to receive you, as I guess, And he's showing that it's too soon for me to love him or too soon for me to try to have a relationship again after getting hurts. So he's saying he doesn't want

to be in a relationship. You guys are just dating right now? Right, Like in a sense, you know how you can everything that someone does shows love or shows compassion or whatever, like the way that he treats me or the things that he says shows more than just dating. Right, So he's treating you like you guys are in a relationship, but he doesn't want to make that commitment. Right. Well, first of all, I always feel like you can't force

people to want to be where you're at. And at least he's being honest with you right about how he feels, and so you can accept that and then work with him toward that and be patient because you've been through a lot as well. And I think sometimes when you know you're getting out of a ten year relationship and you are used to being with somebody on a level that you guys are in something and that's your comfortable space. But you have to understand that everybody's not moving at

the pace that you might want to move. Right So I continue to be who I am and you know, show that I care. And well, I don't think you should ever not be who you are. That's important, and I think you should continue to show that you care. But you and you should also express where you want to be in your relationship. So you should let him know, Look, this is what I would like, this is how I feel about you. Now you're telling me that right now, You're not in this space to be able to receive that.

This is not what you want right now, and so I know I can't force that, and you know you should see how does he want to proceed? Is he fine with things just the way that they are with you guys acting like you're in a relationship and not being in one. Is he fine with that? Well, he makes it seem like, you know, there's something to work towards. It's never been like, Okay, we're doing this and it's not going anywhere. But once it's like once you tell him that you care, he pulls away a little bit.

And how long has it been going on? Seven months now, Okay, yeah, I mean, look, it takes people a long time. Like he's been through some things where he has trust issues. Has he gotten any professional help, um, not that I know of. I know that he's been out of a relationship for three years and pretty much been single. So I think that he's more learning himself now than he is worried about, you know, like commitment, right, And I

think that's fine. He tells me I need to do right, and he probably is also a little nervous because you are coming off of a ten year relationship, so he doesn't want to be a rebound situation and then get his feelings hurt. Right. I think you just have to be patient, and I think you should continue to show him the love that you show him. He treats you well. Right, Oh yeah, definitely. Is he seeing other people? No? And you guys have had that conversation and he doesn't intend

to and doesn't want to, right, Okay. I think that you just have to be a little more patient and understanding of a situation. He's probably also a little nervous about you, and he wants to make sure that you're serious because, like I said, he might look at it like, well, she's really comfortable being with someone they did just break up. It was ten years. That's a long time. I don't want to make myself vulnerable. And until he feels like he can make that happen, you know, I think is

probably difficult for him as well. And so sometimes people also are scared of just saying that they're in a relationship, even though they act like they are too. Right, you know. So I think that if you're happy right now with everything else except you don't have that title, then I think it's worth you pursuing this further as long as he's treating you really well right now and you feel like he in his head is working towards that he's

just not there yet. Yeah, I do. Okay, Well, enjoy it all right, I appreciate it, no problem, Katie, good luck? All right? Ask ye eight hundred five eight five one oh five one? Now you got rooms on the way? Ye? Yes. And since we're talking relationships, let's talk about somebody who says that when she first met her now husband, she thought he was arrogant, and now look at where they are. All Right, we'll get into that next. Don't move. It's

the breakfast club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club's Tea. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well. Alicia Keys is on the cover of in Style magazine, and one thing that she talked about in her interview was how when she first, well, before she started dating Swiss, she thought he was just arrogant. She said she had read an interview where he talked about writing many of his best songs in ten minutes, and she herself, it's

been days obsessing over every core progression. So she told her friend, of course, he does his songs in ten minutes. Have you heard his songs? But then the two of them eventually right, and she said, we got in the studio, she started working together. She said, we literally made a song in ten minutes, and I was like, ah ish, She said it his style wasn't about haste or carelessness, but inspiration and tapping into a place that's all feeling

and emotion and spirit. So that's when they started dating. It clearly worked. Ten minute man, switch Beach, I don't think it was like like that one the ten minute Man. She said. I also began to understand that my humility was sometimes a mask for self worth issues. I would say, Oh, I don't need much. I only need a little bit, and I'm fine that I was kind of cutting off my blessings. But I started to recognize I have this wrong.

So she said, they have a tradition where they try to outspoil each other with extravagant surprises on their birthdays. And she said, I can remain totally humble, but I don't have to cut off the wonderful things that I deserve. That's dope. That's a great way of thinking of it. And you should spoil a person that you wi you

love them? Why not? All right? Now? Another relationship Knews STEVIEJ says that he and Faith are still together even though she had gotten arrested for a domestic violence and he set the reconstrate about things. He said, that's my wife and I love her. I'm not going anywhere. God's got us. And there's video of them and she's like all mine. So looks like the two of them. Whatever happened back then, we don't know what went down, but

they are still together for people who thought maybe they weren't. Now, Sephora Has says they will dedicate fifteen percent of shelf space for black owned brands, and they're taking that pledge. They're the first major retailer in the US to take the fifteen percent pledge. That's a movement that started earlier this month with demonstrate rations after the death of George Floyd in a national conversation about race inequality. So that pledge calls on Saphora, Target Hole Foods, and shop Bop

to make that commitment. Now, the person who actually created that is Aurora James, and she's the creative director of a Brooklyn based accessory company called Brother Velly. She said it's about a long term commitment to the black community. Starbucks, in the meantime, is closing up to four hundred stores

to try to shift to a more takeout strategy. So they're going to do that over the course of the next eighteen months in the US and in Canada, and at the same time they'll be adding carry out and pick up locations. Only makes sense, and the CEO of Twitter, Jack Dorsey, says that they're going to make Juneteenth an official company holiday for their US workers. So that's going to happen. Well, we don't work at Twitter, but we should. Well we could, we could take off we could take off.

We could definitely take off. I think it's on a oh yeah, no June, Yeah, a Friday, Friday, So that'll be um something that they do for all of his companies. He has Square, you know, Twitter and so forth. So he said, we will do the work to make those dates company holidays everywhere where we are present. All right. And last, oh and Iggy Iggy Azelia has confirmed that she has a son. Everybody who is talking about when she was pregnant, and you know she's with Playboy Cardie.

So now she has finally confirmed the news. She wants people to know it wasn't a secret. She said, I kept waiting for the right time to say something, but it feels like the more time passes, the more I realize I'm always going to feel anxious to share news that giant with the world. I want to keep his life private, but I wanted to make it clear he's not a secret and I love him beyond words. So

that's your child. You have the right to announce whatever you want whenever you want, exactly drop on a clues bomb for young Iggy Azelia. It's fine, Yeah, congratulations to him, all right, I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. Ye're not going to talk about the trouble that we got into yesterday. Trouble oh, interviewing wressell rooms. If we get in trouble, I'll just say listen. I mean, people were upset. But here's the thing I just want to

say to every single one of those young ladies. They have the right to be heard. They have the right to be listened to. They have a whole documentary out on HBO Max what's the name of the documentary on the record, on the record. I've seen them do interviews a few places. They are free to come to the Breakfast Club, even though no publicists reached out to us

to book them. Okay, but if they did, we wouldn't deny him, because clearly we don't deny anybody, all right, And if you would like, yeah, normally your publicists reaches out or sometimes people reach out themselves to our producer. But a lot of times it also happens where my booking email is on my all of my social media pages,

so people can email there. And if any of the women want to come on, and I said this while we were off there yesterday, we should have them on the show, but we didn't reach out to Russell Simmons for him to come on. They reached out to us, and that's how it happens most of the time with our guests, so we are ninety five percent of the time it's a PR person or publicists from the artists. Artists themselves reach out. Okay, Russell Simmons, PR reached out

and of course we would have russ on. Why because he has allegations. He hasn't been charged with anything, he hasn't been convicted of anything. It's allegations and there's always two sides to every story. The same way they can tell that story those young ladies, Russell can tell his story and media outlets would definitely have him on. Oprah would talk to Russell Simmons, Gayle King would talk to Russell Simmons, CNN, MSNBC would talk to Russell Simmons because

that's what media outlets do. So yes, if any of those women want to come on Breakfast Club, they can interviewing Somebody's not a co sign for them either. By the way people were saying, oh, would yall have interviewed Harvey Weinstein? Absolutely, I would love to hear what he has to say about everything, because I also think that what he says, some people look at it and say, okay,

he did that. Some people might look at it and be like, Okay, I can understand where however you look at it, you look at it, But it's not us trying to say he's innocent. That's definitely not what that's about at all. Ye yee. I don't know about Harvey I would be here for I don't know. I don't know if I would want to interview Harvey Weinstein. He's been convicted, He's even admitted his guilt, right, I think,

I don't think. I don't think you ever know. You never know what people might say, though, and people say things that incriminate themselves all the time in an interview. As a matter of fact, when people criticize Oprah for not interviewing Harvey, she said she wanted to when reached out, but he wouldn't do any interviews. That is true. I remember that because I remember his law I think his lawyer did an interview with Oprah or something like that,

with Gail or somebody. His lawyer talked to either Gail all Oprah. I'm not sure. I don't know if I would snap down with Harvey. I don't know. Russell's a little different because of Russell's background in hip hop and the fact that you know, it's just allegations. You know, he hasn't been charged, hasn't been charged, he hasn't been arrested, he hasn't been convicted. Yeah, well, anyway, I don't know. All right, listen, once again, those women are more than

welcome to come. But you you pall got to reach out. We didn't reach out to Russell. You can. They can reach out that right. If you don't have a publicist, reach out, but send an email or even a DM and say, hey, I want to see if I can get bucked on the show. And then what happens is we'll send you our producer's information and then he will schedule the time. Simple, all right, all right, Well, shout out to a Revolt. We'll see you tomorrow. Everybody else

to People's Choice mixes up. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, we are the Breakfast Club, all right, now, rest in peace to jazz Fly. Now, Charlemagne, just just tell people who jazz Fly was and what she meant to you, what she meant to this world, what she

meant to our industry. Jazz Fly is um someone who I used to call an oracle because whenever I had a difficult decision to make our you know, needed some advice on something, she just always had the right words to say, not just the right words, but real words. And it was things that you could actually apply to your life, apply to your situation, and it would it would, it would benefit you. And um, she was just a good friend, a good friend of confidante um a wartime

as she was, she wartime consiguate. What's that word wartime concilia consiglias. I can't remember the word. Pounced it? Yeah, Concigliari, I always mispronounced it. So um, yeah, I just I just I don't know, man, I'm not I don't know. I just a job. She was a great person, a great human being. And this has been a very difficult morning. Yesterday was very difficult getting that phone call yesterday and hearing that news. I have not fully processed it at all,

not even a little bit. But rest in peace to Jabman Waters well again, sorry for your loss, and definitely rest in peace to jazz Fly. All right, when we come back, we got the positive note, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club combarding everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee, Charlomagne nagad we all the Breakfast Club. Good morning all right, um. Shout out to Ebony K. Williams for joining us this morning. Yes, appreciate her point of view. Always smooth to Ebony K. Now, Charlomagne,

you got a positive note? Yeah? Man, I just want to simply say, avoiding certain people to protect your emotional mental health is not weakness, It's wisdom. Breakfast Club. You know I'm finish, so y'all dumb