Episode 443 w/ Vybz Kartel

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When we started this show, we started it saying we wanted to pay respect to icons, to legends, to people. Are the man's of the people. When I tell you, when we started this show, from the beginning, they said, get this man. This man is like Jesus. He is dominated the world of dance hall. Then took a hiatus for thirteen years. They came back and went even in the thirteen years, he remained his spots.

Did he come home?

He sell out Madison Square, going in towns too, every man come to every man Bob.

They call him the world boss.

God son, and right now we are here to salute and to pay respect.

Give him his flowers while he's here. The one the.

Only you guys will once a part of a group. It was a group called Vib's Cartel. Correct, yes, or three of us. But I was the best one.

To one.

Because who got you in the music? I heard it was your uncles who got you in the music?

Yeah, you still watch them, d J, you know what I mean. They were like up and coming artists. Like I said, I was the best one, so you'll never hear of them. Oh even your uncles. Yeah, better than them. But they inspired me, like seriously though, Like they got me interested in the art form, you know. I mean those watching people flowing on beats. That was crazy for me as a kid like Bombo, you know, And that's when I got interested.

We got that jay Z clip I want to I want to yeah, yeah, the cypher sounds.

I want to show you. I want to show you this si f from yeah yeah yeah yeah. Just didn't have it, just didn't pop off like that.

I almost had Vibes Cartel Rocket forget it in the fucking round by him.

No, truly listening to Rtel. Of course I almost had him moment.

Yeah, he tried three different uh cooks really yeah? Oh what's song somewhere? Uh I need to forget? Yeah I know yeah yeah cool ass.

Wow. He couldn't come in he sent him.

No, he was there, he came.

Vibes Cartel, Yes, I think he's talking about jay Z talking about Movado. Nah, he said you but what which what year was that because remember that took my visa years ago like oh five.

Yeah, he might be, but they were mentioning that you could can come. That's what they were saying.

That's why I side for acing twice. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, Man'm sorry for that's my bread. I've known him for years. Nigga called me one day, Cartel, how come you've been speaking for two years and I've never meant you? Are you a me? That's crazy, man? But you know Cipher's defense.

Since I've heard of you, it's like a myth that comes with you, like it's it's like, I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm the other day hanging out with one of my Jewish friends, and my Jewish friends told me. He said, it's in Jamaica. This is when he said that his friends. He said, it's Jesus, Bob and KFC.

You know what I'm saying. Do you realize how many, how many people who.

Love you, like every artist that I've ever interviewed? Right, I go to Twitter and I say, I got this artist to call it and the cover.

So you got questions with you? I'm not even playing.

With the fans because because they'll be all in my commage.

Do you realize how how popular you are? Yeah? Man, of course? Right? But like I said, I put in the work, you know what I mean, and I keep its real right true, like night Julie. So I just sing my truth and people that's like that about me. How was the Grammys? It's amazing. I've never been there before, you know what I mean. And I just got out of christ six months after crazy. I know I'm walking in the red conta know I'm saying.

I know we talked about vibes can tell the name, But before that, you were Adi Banshan.

I'm still Adi is my favorite Dan Soul artists. He inspired me. Yeah, Ninja my two favorites.

Right, I got that written down there was a car sert one time when you was young vibes yeah.

And Bojo grabbed a mic for you. Yeah, what happened there? Nothing happened. That's Butcherbanton man. I mean, I was angry and happy.

And funny enough.

He gave me one of the most profound how would I put it in advice in the industry, because back then, when I just came out, I used to flow very hard, you know what I mean, And a lot of times it went over people's heads, especially with all the fans because I was just coming out, and Butcherbanton was like, own boy, your.

Bud, what don't those need you to slow it down?

I said, that makes sense, And that's when I think I found that that balance between the art and commerce, because you still need our ship to be sold, right, still need people to Yeah, so big for that. But I'm still.

I'm gonna be honest with you. I've seen a guy on the internet have this liquor yeah and say this should be illegal.

That's so let's let's let's subscribe to people. Which one is this? Oh? This is the rampin shot. That's the record you got with you, spie, because we named each flavor one of my hit songs. You know what I mean? This is my This is the Electric This is dangerous as well. But my favorite one is the Fever. Uh huh. But it's smooth.

It's like vodka you say, sixty two percent?

Yeah, yeah, exactly. It takes her off your chest. This is crazy, man, this fever. Which one is that one?

Oh?

This is unstoppable okay, and you can't let any of its fill because it's unmoppable. That's that's how dangerous this one is. So he still fire this one. This one is mostly for the ladies. Ladies and anyone can have that, but trust me, I recommend the Fever and the unstoppable something.

See how you just said unstoppable and unmarkable. Since when you start being a DJ, like that in your mind and you always play with.

You, always play with words, always play you know this? Yes, yes, you know what I mean? What age? Since I was born man? Like that's it's also a Jamaican thing. We love the rhyme. It's like every kid on a street corner in New York wants to be a rapper. It's the same thing as Jamaica. You don't want to run from the cops as well. Oh you want to do music, you know what I mean? So those are not the only thing, but you do get your style right, Yeah? And the Garrison.

Was the summertime in the port More Yeah that song, yes.

But but can you just gribe port More for me? I mean, it's just outside Kingston, so it's not in Kingston. Okay, we got across the bridge, so it's like Jersey, don't New York. Yeah, because we are still very much intertwined culturally and everything. Most people in Port Moore at the time went to school in Kingston. He worked in Kingston, so we're basically a twin city. And how was the life? So I grew up?

How was life and water Ford? Could you describe that in anything?

I mean, I grew up like six of us, you know what I mean, six kids, six kids my parents. We had six of us in one room at one point, on one bed. You know, get your lifestyle. But for me, I wouldn't change how I was raised because it made me a tough, determined, unwilling to go back there, you know what I mean. So yeah, I'm on big for Fort More Empire.

Can you say your uncles were inspiring you to do mutic Yeah.

They were from Kingston. So they used to come to my mom's house like on Sundays where my dad had this thing set up turn table you know those of course with the needle. Yeah, so and they used to string the mic up and DJ. They lived in Kingston Waterhouse. Yeah, that's where I was born, so big as well.

So let me just go straight up for action. Who's the King of the dance Hall?

Vibes Garter. Don't get it twisted because you have to remember Bean is a legend. I mean, was king the same way George was was king. Now we have Charles, you know what I mean. These things come and go just like life right here now a few years from now, we're gone. So currently speaking, you know what I mean. That's set by billboard, that's set by the fans, rolling stones,

One game and one thing I commend you for is you never I haven't heard you talk bad on meaniever. You always pay me up against es Guard. You just hit them, just hit the Grammys, and you still pay them respect on.

That's my top five. I told you Bounty being in vibes Guard. That's it. But I've read a.

Lot of the comments, and a lot of comments were saying that that's the reason why you already king is because of your humbleness, Like you could use the opportunity and said something wrong or said something bad about No.

No, God is the great test Man. God is the great old You wouldn't have been like that. No, no, all right, but you know what I mean. You learn, you want some feal, you want some fever. You're offering, but I need a ice please? So is this something white clanberry white? Right? Okay, okay, yeah, that's cool.

I'm a little hated and I've never heard of white caroen Verby?

Now is that a Jamaican drink? Or is that universe? Okay? You're taking it? Keep keep you see where? Yeah, that's right, make it over head, that's right. I reflect that.

So when you were locked up, what was the most thing that you missed more? Because I was about to say recording or performing, but you got to record in jail, boy, did you miss performing? I didn't get to record. I can't figure out how to record. Yeah, because I ain't gonna lie. Whatever iPhone you got.

Fives, I'm gonna record it. It's good for recording. How many albums do you recorded in jail? A lot? I mean we did. We did Iking, which is now re released. We did King on the Dance Al which Feverson soul goal. I did the Tuanisha, the album that's nominated for a Grammy, that in prison as well.

Right, So, but you don't sound like you in prison. I'm trying to like we were listening to this city today, I'm like, how the fuck did you do that?

Let's figure it out. Remember, everything is the technique once you crack the colde in. So I started using my mattress, like you know that sponge they gave you to sleep on to imitate the cushions sound in the studio. Micah. So that's that's what I figured out.

I'm excited to take you to figure that part out a.

Few years because I started recording, like in twenty twelve, and by twenty thirteen I figured it.

OUTA you had a phone in there immediately, Yeah.

No, I had an iPad the small one, a rectangular one. Remember those early ones from back in the day. I used to use that, Yeah, until I figured it out, like twenty thirteen. Then I started doing more better quality songs in terms of the sound.

Wow, Now, what's your favorite place to perform? I see you just booked Cologne, Germany?

Right? Yeah, I mean yeah, what's your favorite place.

To perform outside of Let me let me rephrase the question. What's the place that you performed that? Then you was like, dam why am I here like a weird place?

I don't know, man, Like I embraced everywhere. Let me let me think Japan two thousand and one. That was crazy. Yeah, that's crazy because like at the time most of these the Internet wasn't around. That's big. So it was crazy for me to go to Japan and was like, these people know my songs, you know what I mean? So that was crazy. But since then, you know, we got used to it. Okay.

Now, when you went to when you went to trial, A friend of mine's different. I believe you went had twelve days a trial.

I believe he went to.

Eleven days, and I believe if I hear this right, on the twelfth day, they didn't let him in because.

They knew he was going to be guilty. I'm talking about Buster Ribs. Yes, yes, yes, that's my G. I was with him in La La. I just did him in the studio. Yeah.

So, how's your relationship with bus Describe your relationship.

That's my g. The first time I met him was after I did Best at the Best because remember I didn't have a visa, so I was the first artist to do Best at the Best from Jamaica by your satellite, you know what I mean. Live. So he was in the crowd in Miami watching on stage and was like, Yo, what the fuck is this? I need to know this person.

Fever? Okay, hell y, hell ya, salu yo. Man, let me tell you something, world boss man, we are son.

This is fever. Let's do that looking Fever they're looking fever. Okay.

So now if I'm a tourist, I've never been to Jamaica. I'm a big Bobscartel fan. Where where do you recommend that I go in Jamaica for what?

For? I don't know? To be safe, it's.

Good man, you can't go anywhere.

I mean, if you love Dan soul and you want to be in that culture where Cartel is from, Bounty beating Fada, come to Kingston. Come to Kingston with party every single night. So them mon they choose Wednesday thirty Friday. You want like a resort, vibe, white sand beaches, the girls with the little thing. You go to Montego to be feared. To Montego Bay. They also have a very powerful inner city culture. They got Gunman in Montigo Bay.

Okay, I've been to Montego Bay.

Oh you've been there? Yeah, resort part.

Yeah, I don't know nobody, so.

I know we're all over the place.

But I want to talk about Alliance and you and your introduction to Bounty Killer and that that part of your life.

Oh that was crazy, man. Like I was in pot More at the time. So a dude that saw me on a show, a stage show, amateur night and he was like, Yo, I know Bounty Killer and I can make the introduction. But them times, as a youth from the ghetto, we was like, where do you know Bounty Killer? Yeah? Like how you know it? Who are you? Yeah? Exactly because at the time he was driving a Nissan. I'm like, nigga, how you.

Know what I mean?

So it took us months because I was like, yeah, come pick me up today, five o'clock, five o'clock. I never showed you know what I mean. And then one day me and my friends was there chilling and we was like you know what, he's determined, give him my chat, you know what I mean. See how determination is a good thing too. So I said, okay, let's go. And he actually knew Bounty. So when he took me to Bounty, Killer,

You a little political questions not so political, but why did Jamaicas need visas to come here? But Americans don't need visas to go to Jamaica.

In America is America. If you guys need visas to will maybe Russia. London.

They kick me out of London. I have a visa, they kick me out. They didn't even let me get out of the airport.

We need visas for some beer. They kicked me right out London. Yeah, I mean you know you loved it, motherfucker. I mean we could you know, let me tell us on that I'm not going to get to because they're going to end up in race. And how does it feel to get your visa back?

And what does that mean for an artist coming from Jamaica and overseas.

I mean it feels good, man. And I think I deserve it too, right, I mean, so shout out to it. Yeah, not not. I don't say that to sound cocky or anything. I just say that because apart from me putting in the work, I think I'm changed as a person and I'm more user friendly so to speak. So yeah, I think I deserve And you got all the charges. We got to quit it of all the all the charges charge.

Because one of the things that that was said to me was this whole time he was he was, he was caught, but there was no gun and there was nobody that they ever found.

No. Yeah, so it was almost like that's that's like. I mean, I went through the childs and tribulations and God, God brought me through successfully, you know, so made it through, made it God is the greatest, goddamn yeah.

Man, So he was some of the things you was watching in jail, everything everything you had Internet, you had world Star.

World Stars know that jail man, I had fucking porn Hub.

You walked the Red Carpet and the Grammys, and I need to point out every every little website like you knew.

It was like he had to be and it can. Yeah, it's up to the time, man. I mean they've taken so much, so many phones from in prison. I've lost count man, because it's not like it's legal, right, but it's a cell and I'm in a cell. Yeah, so you know you know how that goes. It's crazy though whatever I mean, I wasn't. I wasn't given the worst treatment.

And you're the world on the fucking balls. Yes, yes, show it's about giving people their flowers when they could smell them, their thoughts where they.

Could think them, and they drinks while they could drink them.

Yo, man, welcome home, Yo, stay home, stay on top.

Of the game. We want to give you your flowers face to face. Yeah it's yeah. Yeah, that's a camera. Yeah.

Snoop Dogg said it's better than the Grammy because it comes from his people.

Tell them where you're from. He's from. Yeah, all around. Yeah, thank you man. It means a lot.

Yes, you got your nickname is the war Angel as well?

You know what I'm saying, And what's the war Angel? Was the War Angel? Yes, So I want to go back a little bit because we're in the magnificence of Vibes Cartel right now, but we have to talk about how you got there and the things that made you that you know, and you said some of your inspiration was Bounty Bugey and Ninja Man. Yes, you had an instance from Ninja Man one time on stage.

You know what I mean.

I'm just wondering, how the hell do you have an instance like that.

With one of your inspiration. It was an unfortunate incident, you know what I mean. Funny enough, Like I said, Ninja Man is the first artist that I really listened to and was like, I want to do this. It's my job.

It's going to be my job.

So I guess we were bound to meet at some time. They say worked the idol becomes a rival's Yeah, yeah, so it happened. Yeah, so I mean, I guess that's what brought me and his journey right there in that time and space together. But yeah, we cool. We met after that. We were actually in prison together, like two prisons. Yeah, so we were in Spanish down prison and we were in Towers Street in Kingston. I left in there as a matter of fact, So big up Ninja Man. But yeah,

And what about the Times of Bounty? Who all was in the Alliance?

Oh yeah, I had the lyrical field at the Alliance as well when I left, Because you but how long were you with them? I was with Alliance some two thousand, about two thousand and five, two thousand and six, Yes, funny enough. You know what started that field with me an Alliance. When I went to Beanie Man's wedding, Oh yeah, he was was he grow Beanie was at it at the time because remember Bounty being in Man married at the time, socience was high. It was loving hip hop

Is that's who you guys win against, right, Yes, yes, okay, but we're both from Alliance.

Yeah, so when you have that problem, he stepped up for Alliance.

Yes, he stepped up for Alliance because I was shooting everyone. He was like the young brave one that at the time the way I do. And that's when it started. So it's over. It's over now. Yeahahn, because matter.

Went down for a while.

Yeah yeah, yeah, no, matter of fact, his son was in the same person I was in two yeah yeah, so yeah, show the guard. Yeah he's in town.

Do you ever do you ever look back at those times? And and I don't want to say regret. I never regret anything, but maybe you want to do something different.

I know, I want to live in this universe, man, and this universe brought me to where I am.

Well, right, it's a fire happening, right, and you got one bottle of fever.

You could save one person, I understandle no no, I.

Say one person, yes, booju or bounty killing, save one the fire moreal. I just want to let you know he can save. He's gonna drink the fever himself.

I thought I could have sat. I saw that on your program that when the person doesn't want to answer, you drink.

That's I'm gonna take a drink.

It's a quick you're ready for hold on, hold on, I want to go ahead. Hold on, my bad, you're gonna you gotta step your ship up there.

That's what they make up these questions. But let's let's talk about one of your friends.

Sean Storm that's my brother man friends. Yeah, real bro man.

Everything is great, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

His mom used to sell at the primary school that I went to. He went to there to but I'm older than him, so I was there before. So yeah, we grew up in the same community, right, yeah, Okay, that's my bro man. Okay, talk to him every day. Okay, yeah, yeah, Why did you ask that though, even though it's you, I don't know. I just want to make sure I'm one point.

I want to make sure I want point. I have to call every Let me tell you something. Everybody wants to be a part of this interview. Everybody man, because you're so important to the people, you know what I mean, and and like you know what I mean. I just wanted to I just wanted to give your flowers, man, because you know what I mean, Like, your story is impeccable flowers received.

Right, Well, I want to ask you what influenced, if any did you have a hip hop artist from over here in the States.

Growing up, are used to listening to like KRS one, BDP, Love the Browns, and I mean Slick Creck, a little bit of Big that we loved, click crick in Jamaica. Back in the day, we heard, yeah man the ruler, the teacher. Yeah, come on, big up, slickman recruited big chin and you know, back in the days, Jamaicans used to love to wear those big, heavy gold chains, you know what I mean them times the diamond and the bling wasn't such a thing. But yeah, I'm on, you

So you guys have more output. I feel like then artists over here. Yeah right, you're right on every rhythm that comes out, just.

Throwing it out. Did Neo ever get mad at you? I've never met him. Your niggas match up his song? Yeah, I know.

I know you're in the club thinking they're gonna hear.

You clear. That mean if I got okay.

Clear it right away, which we want for me to not clear it, even if I was thinking about not clearing it, which by the way, I was never thinking about not clearing.

That's but he didn't clear it. He didn't know, That's what I'm saying.

You was presented to me like this is that dude? Oh and by the way, he did this with your song? It was presented to me like that. So I'm like, so what are we talking about right now? Of course it's fine. What Why would I have a problem with this? To this day, I can't, like you know, I can't be over there and before misindependent without showing without giving props.

To what then he did? You know what I'm saying, like you made Yeah? Yeah, man, Like ye say, he broke the record back five and that's awful. The ship that I was shrunting. I got to give you love for that. Okay. In its defense as well, the publishing was owned by some European guys, so they were holding like we don't isn't isn't that so dope? The power of the people they.

Make with the hits whatever, den't clear it or not, that's it.

I think that's your record. Yeah, man, it's the biggest. It's one of my biggest songs, man, trust me. It's one of spices. Like anywhere she goes, she's like, yo, I got the big hit with Cartel. This is my first big song, she says that. And she's also from Portmore by the way, Spice, we grew up together. Yeah yeah man, so big up and the rumping shop, that's it.

I don't know I'm supposed to say it like this, But and you bus popcorn right yeah?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're going you said it properly saying let's say.

It's just saying yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Brought in the fame. Man. Very talented, you know what I mean? Yeah, big popcorn.

Did you did you think he exceeded your expectations or did he meets your expect No?

He met it. And I mean he has way more potential in him. Remember he hasn't even touched you as soil there. Think about that. He's one of the biggest artists out of Jamaica. Been all over the world. He rolls with Drake. Oh, I'm seeing him in Canada. I'm thinking that exactly. He's got that. Damn I didn't keep that. Yeah, and he goes to you cells like gold in Uka on a regular Yeah. Man, he's doing this thing. He's big.

If you if you if you get the headline Eastern Parkway Parade, which you bring popcorn with you.

Unless he's walking through the border. Like I said, he.

Doesn't have a visa, but definitely like me, and we travel all over the world.

We've been traveling. Like I said, I gave him his fame, so of course if he gets his visa, start telling it's on. Yeah yeah, but yeah. But now as it stands, that's two well man ship. So why they won't give him his visa. I never went to the embassy when that was being you got your visa? No, because God is the greatest. I told you. I've made like people expected me to come out guns blazing, fucking up the place literally and musically. But like I said, I'm just calm, chill,

Yeah, So you're gonna make Freedom Street a festival.

Yeah, We're for two days, every two.

Days everywhere, so we will be the next place you want to do that.

Uh well, we wanted to do it in England, but we got an offer already wireless festival. Yes, so being wireless and you know that summer, so I don't want to fuck that up. So yeah in London okay, well yeah, Live Nation okay, yeah. Yeah, so we're doing We're just keeping it every year in Jamaica. That's that's one thing for sure. It's going to be an annual event. All right.

Do you realize that you stopped you only the planes traffic in Jamaica that night of the concert.

Yeah, there was planes that was backed up, there was traffic.

It was it was like one of the craziest nights in Jamaica.

Do you know that? Yeah? Man, he'sn in Kingston. You couldn't get a hotel room. All the rooms are booked, you know what I mean? And what a lot of the hotels did on that night. So say the room is for like two fifty US. So for those two nights you got to have a thought in the night. Wow, they cut you in on that. No, the hotel that I stay funny, you know, because actually stay at the hotel. I've been there so long. Even my manager was like, just by the hotel man, But they give me a

You would like.

Yeah, okay, damn.

Let me ask a question since I were talking about Freedom Street. You know, Freedom Street get reaches reaches here and then you emerge out the stage and you just sit there for me, yes, for maybe for one two minutes, it seemed like five minutes.

Whoa, whoa, What did that feeling feel like for you? I did it on purpose because remember I like to prove them wrong. So if you if you want me to jump this table, just say you can't jump. You know what I mean? So you to the table. So when I was coming out the pea, usually I would start making my signature slang from from black stage so they'd be like yo, yo, all say you know you know the thing? Yeahine like that would get the c So I was like, nah, I'm coming out like Michael

Streaming on six before they canceled it.

And then I said yeah yo and Pandemonium yeah man, and then we started It's crazy this is Mine. Yes, I like Dreamstown. The drinks just appear out of nowise. Let me ask you, do you think you should have on the Grammy? Yeah, yeah, of course why not?

It was me like you know, reading in the comments, a lot of people agree with you. They think that you should have won the graph of course.

I mean that's Bob Marley. How many Grammys do you need? Like you're the number one artists in the Jamaica verse, right, number one. It's that sit some iTunes number and every day looking at us like this literally, I mean, if you look at this album that hardly moves some number one. Let me, yeah, I moved a couple of times, goes back up. Another artist, come move it, it goes back up. That's Bob. How many Grammys you need, man, And if you think about it, my story is an amazing story.

And got a carpet that.

Was exactly that would have been an icing on the cake? Am I bitter? No? No, that's Bob Marley and first, and I think he was the only person who could have beaten you know what I mean.

So the last time you're going to be no, exactly, that's nothing.

But you asked a question like that.

But here's the here's the question that for me. For me, I love this movie. But every time I ask somebody from the island of Jamaica, they tell me they didn't even see the movie.

No legend Bob Marley movie. Like ever you're talking.

I asked somebody, did you see the Bob Marley movie, like a person from the yard. They will be like yeah, they were like, no, I didn't see it.

I mean I've seen clippings of it though like a lot of clips. I need to understand this cause you playing this to me.

Why are people and I think you you you explained it to me a little bit. You said, I think people from Jamaica knows Bo's story so much they didn't want.

It to be any iconic. But for for us, like if.

A biggie movie just come out, right, I'm from Queen's I'm not from Brooklyn, but I'm gonna go see a biggie movie.

Why isn't the things he feels they need to tell me where he's from.

Why don't people from the yard go watch Ball's movie?

I don't understand it. I mean it's personal, man, because you know, like you said, we know about we know, we grew up hearing his life story. Even a lot of people in Jamaica who did watch the movie, they were like, oh, why did why didn't Cindy breakspeare? Which is which is Julia Gonsman? Why didn't she get more time in the film? Oh it is because Richard did

Right now, what is the difference between reggae and dance hall.

I mean, first of all, the beats, you know what I mean, Dan Saul. As a matter of fact, Dan Saul came about on reggae beats until he found it on nats. Some would say, with in in eighty six we changed the beat itself. But yeah, yeah, but reggae is more political, more social, you know what I mean, more against the system, more rebellious. Well, Dan Saul is just like sex, drugs, you know what I mean, like violence.

I mean, it's deeper than that.

That's many layers obviously, yeah, obviously, because you know what I mean. But yeah, I think Dan Saul is Reggae's like unruly cousin, you know, the one from the Projects. Yeah, yeah, that's Dan Saull. Younger cousins, Yeah, the younger, very young reggae, the older big brother like, yeah, he smokes pipes, yes, yes, the younger dance That roller dance is of O G now too, Yeah, of course it is. I's been around since the seventy what's my man name?

I told you to sh the picture of and I called him doctor.

But he's not a.

Doctor, multa multi right. I've seen to you ever you think you ever do his show?

Of course, I'm not afraid to do more show what is iconic in Jamaica as well, you know, especially among the Rastafi the reggae community.

So he was saying, like, how how much of reggae is.

The o G?

But I guess we kind of like like stepped on that already, right few that Yeah, we can't know.

You can't dispel that. That's plus it's coming from it's coming from a legend too. Yeah, but he's right, reggae is the og man. Right. Yeah. Well, I think and this is the topic that's been discussed, it's been going on for years. Should Dancehall have its own category? And I think yes, because Sean Paul is a reggae, we need more classify him as dance yes, and he's international, right, you know what I mean. So we have the we

Liked and the artists could go back and forth.

Yeah, we can do because I have reggae track well, you know what I mean. So it's a thin line, but you know what I mean, it's there.

Nonetheless, when you said was dancehall, would you ever do an album like a til Shallow album but on your own?

You know I mean when I say it was, maybe that's a strong choice at first, but what I mean he was only dance, you know what I mean?

And then he was like, didn't shine?

You know, you're trying to un stuffing, you know what I mean. So he made the transition and he was super successful as a sold artists and super successful reggae artists. Not many people do that, right, you know what I mean?

So yeah, yeah, would you make an album like that until Shallow album or I mean, I'm if I'm.

Dance so forever, man, I doubt that, but I do reggae songs because you are not love, but I'm dance sold forever, you know what I mean. That's not gonna change. Do you think you do a tour with Beanie Man? I mean, if the money is right, I'll do a tour with anyone. You know what I mean it is. I would not say anyone. I mean any Jamaican up. Yeah yeah, any hip hop artists, R and B artist you know, I mean saw black music, afrobeats like come on you bus tour would be cool, that's my g Yeah.

Yeah, I'm flying out front seat like.

Like no, I gotta watch it, na. Man h. That was one of the guys. That's a good point you made too, because when you said, now I'm gonna watch it, you see. So you can't just be an artist. You got to be a fan of the music. God, damn make some noise for I like what you said. Yes, I ain't gonna lie, man. I would.

I would if you and Bust the Pomps to do a show together, that's God. I probably wouldn't even call him because.

He was like, you're coming from form and I'm like, no, I'll be roll like this on like yeah, yeah, so the fans don't see you because this space yeah yeah. Yeah.

So I'm gonna keep it on hunting with you. How many babies you think you made of?

For vibes? Just your music I'm talking about.

I was listening to your ship and all you too, is talking about fucking you like this, yes, sir, like the that's.

Not for that.

Yeah, but yeah man, like I said, like in Jamaica, you have artists that do songs for the girls, and then you have artists like me that go hardcore sex. I mean I have songs for the girls. Yeah, but a lot of my songs is like sex. You Knowabarans. Yeah, Like I'm like Sabarans then, like he was like the man every other song pussy pussy, But I mean artistically done, it's not. Yeah, it's not like you're reading from a book like it's music. So you gotta flow. It got

It was funny and ship because we were all working out to your music.

My white days, like yeah, yeah, I had my my when I was in America back in the day, I had security, right, you know, these giant looking guys. So some of them were Hispanish. So the dude came to me one day and he was like, yo, cartel man. I figured out your song. But your songs are the ones that say pussy, pussy every two lines. I'm nothing. I was like, yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. You got the cold boy, yeah, man, So, like I said, dancehall is like that.

It's hardcore. How many babies you think you made just over your music? Like people just just people do something the place?

Okay? Yeah? Yeah? What population nineteen twenty percent? The hell? Yeah, it's bigger than Jamaica. When people say that, even in the comment section, people would be like, say, I post the old song, say ramping shop it, oh cartail, I made my son for that song. Yeah. Literally in the comment section, I mean Virginity. That's a big song in Jamaica that I did as well. Ladies comment, oh I lost my virginity to this song such and such I

I can't think of that.

Experience. And that's why people call you the world boss.

In my opinion, they say that you can make you know love music, you can make us you know dog music, and you can you can make cop music anything.

Then, like I said, I do a few reggae joints and yeah, we do everything man like it's music. It's like I say, I sing my truth and my experiences. Doesn't have to be first hand all the time and be a second you know. I mean, me and you in the streets, are something happened in the community, sing about that, but do it in a way because remember it's universal. I mean, it's like hitting your elbow on the wall and feeling that shock. We all go through

Speaking of that, let's talk about your debut album, Up to the Time album, you know Green, Do you want to just drop no?

No, no, that's the way out two thousand and three.

I think, how do you do you remember creating that album and what was going on and your mind stage?

I mean, like I said in them times, Oh, because when I came out back then a lot of people didn't understand my style exactly because dan So was changing and I was one of the kids at the time that was changing the flow. So I got a lot of pushback from the industry, from the gatekeepers. So when that album came out, the kids just ate it up.

Jay Z nots and the changing of the flows, changing.

Up the flow, so we kind of have had the ear to like, oh, whoa you can say so you can express yourself like that, you can say that, you.

Can jump out of the pocket, come back into the part exactly.

So that's where a cartel came from, like as a product of dance, salt and hip hop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

I was gonna say, I can see why Sife was trying to compare him to Eminem, the Eminem Jamaica, and that's that's all car exactly.

And that's like twenty five years ago, twenty you know what I mean. So yeah, it's crazy. I don't like that comparison, by the way, but.

The fact that he can do anything, you know what I'm saying.

Like we always we always said Lil Wayne, you know, that's who we always is.

Fired though, like how does he is? How does he come up with that ship? Which is what people say to me and dance stalls when I listed the way and I want to see him to asking that same question. Crazy man, But yeah, who's your favorite hip hop artist right now? Of all time? Tupac all time Tac. That's

What would what would Bob Catel Tupac crazy?

That would be crazy. Hold hold on, hold on, hold on, And I got the worst.

Uh so that's it called volume in the world.

Cypher sounds in the building, you see funny. Yeah, I'm here, man, You're go I'm fine, man, I'm doing drinks Champs, so you know that though I'm telling you, it's a pleasure to be here. Sif trust me, thank you you started it. You ew and Rosenberg. Remember the interviews as I came out. They did the very first one. Yeah. Yeah. So now I'm at Drinks Jams Live, so I'm drinking your excite where you are question.

I just want you to know I'm the king of the dance hall.

They come and they come see me. Yeah, yeah, that's my friend. That's my friend. Now I was asking you about the Brooklyn Parkway Parade.

Now in New York, this is like the biggest, biggest. This is like for the for the Jamaica's is like their summer jam.

Right. Is it a West Indies day in today? You know? Okay? Yeah? By them times. Like I said, I was a young artist, elephant man, and the guys was running the place from that. In the dance all.

First, yeah, yeah, what do you feel about reggae?

Don? I love reggae. Don. I don't understand ship they're saying. But the flow is similar to the flow is similar to dance all and the ridding the beat is dance. I love it, man. I don't know problem with I love. Have you collaborated yet with anybody? No, not yet, not yet, But I love it. You know what I mean? The vibe energy, Yeah, it comes on in the club. I mean, we don't stop like what the folk man? Can you

Oh?

Okay, okay? How about apple Beats? I love afro beats. What's your favorite apple Beat record out right? Now? This? I don't know if I should sing it. She she's saying she wants him to make her sweat water. Oh yeah, that's yeah, Tyler. Yeah. And I love the girl called Tame Stuw. I think she won Grammys for she won the Grammys the other day. Yeah, I was there. Yeah, I love afro beat. I got songs with Whisked. You

Because we have Buju bontan on Buju. It was like that he don't feel like that. Sometimes reggaeton or Applebeasts give dancehall and reggae is props.

So that's something that you don't agree with you. No, it's not that I don't agree, but think about it. Reggaeton, it's called reggaeton. The homage is easing in the name reggae reggae ton, you know what I mean, So that the homage is there, I mean, I think what and this goes to show the power of Jamaican music.

US.

It's a numbers game in Jamaica is small, you know what I mean. Nigeria has worked over two hundred million people. Yeah, they're gonna get their own slot on MTV Africa. The continent. It's a frea continent, right, tell me they're gonna get their own area has two hundred more than two hundred million, man, Yeah, someone a huge over. I'm gonna go ahead and say it has like maybe two thirty million. So of course MTV is gonna recognize. All them niggas are scamming niggas.

Deep, No, it's very deep, because I'm gonna tell you right now, I've been all on hopping and every where I went, they was pigging me up for for my my dad's.

Hall interview everywhere exactly.

So what I'm trying to tell you is as small as Jamaica is like how you just said.

It still runs.

That's what I'm saying, like it runs that whole thing, like everywhere that was that and I was just I was feeling like everywhere I was going with it and they start crushing up, you know.

Yeah, no grind allergic the grind so so yeah, man, but Jamaica is very you want.

To play quick, Thomas Laws do it. You don't have to take shots if you don't want to.

You can pick. You could drink, you can drink some egos ship Now we got fever migos.

Two choices. If you pick one, nobody drinks. But if you don't want to answer, or you want to say both of the people.

Or everyone drinks. Yeah, I know, I know, he goes man. I'm a fan. Yeah again, thank you very much. A right you ready ready? I want this one go ahead.

Because I feel like you already did this already, Bounty Killer Jabonta.

Already Fever he was good. Okay, you can see your next one, Terry Gunzi or Grindsman, grinds man. Yeah, he originally did. Ben Spanani I paid homage to and used to hope and he's from Baltimore, where I'm from definitely big Up.

Terry said, oh yeah, Tupac or DMX tupac rest in piece of both.

But yeah, all right, Peter both.

I don't want to ask this one Bob Marley or Peter tosh Oh Ship, I like this shot got to get and you got the next one? Su sayd mm hmm, Beanie Man or Ninja Man, Ninja Man, Goad.

Black Ryan or popcorn mm hmm. You know, the more you drink this, the more you I'm ready here, let me do this one. Rush on or not nice? You you got turning into an alcoholic man. That's the fever I want you. I want to think you. You guys are right man tiny show ye Ship Yeah, jay Z or not jay Z? He mixed one right, No, no, he did that one.

No he did that was popcorn was the last one he did he did that?

Okay, yeah yeah, Raster definitely jay Z.

This one is a no brainer. Teachers pet reality show, a thug life movie.

Don't don't don't only the witness just speed reality show. You're talking about my doug. Last movie before I became famous, back in the day when everyone was broke, I did the worst fucking movie. Yeah, but that's crazy. Yeah, Doug Life, I got shot. That was in bed laughing. That was your acting skills. I have terrible laughting skills, bro, trust me. And you were paying mister Parker, right, Doug. Yeah yeah, Doug Life, Like I said, Yeah, I even have it tattooed somewhere.

I talk about teachers talking about teachers, how was how was that experience teachers felt?

Was crazy? Man? Like, I mean it was. It could have looking back, it could have been way better. But like I said, I was the first person to do it, so we didn't have a template. It was like the flavor of love basically, but yeah, we should have. Yeah, so I did it. Even to this day, people like, when are you doing it? Though? For you you just come out of prison. You should be doing it, not getting married. So yeah, people love that was a big

Yeah, he said, he said, every block do you go through, you can hear a Drake record.

You get me. You may not, and he's not talented, but you know, Drake has that commercial flavor, and he's like, he's like the hip hop Michael Jackson, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, so yeah juicy. He did a lot for popcorn, and he reps the culture. He raps Jamaica culture to the point where people started calling him culture culture. But like, we don't feel that way. It's not Jamaica not influence as well, yeah, because Jamaicans are

I got this because I was looking at my closet.

For my clocks. Yeah, I couldn't find him. I got a brand new clocks.

And then I said, I might have been going too far. Yes, but clarks or no, that's not that's not okay, my bad.

My is wanted to shoot? How used to it? Back to the how do you know that? Come on? All the nigga says, come on, come on over here?

Right about the addies though, because what inspired you to have your own shoes?

I mean, just like I said, I love money, but it's deeper than that. Like I said, we grew up on hip hop as well, and we always admired how these guys come from poverty just like us. Now they are rappers, they have their own shoes, They have their own you know what I mean. You were seeing that first in the hip hop yeah in the nineties. Yeah yeah, and that inspired me of course. I mean, like I said, my generation is the first generation to have cable TV.

Yeah, so we were in rap City City and all of that.

You hear how loud you got one of these got It changed American landscape and it added to the culture as well, you know what I mean. So like I said, yeah, before us, there was just one TV station in Jamaica. So the Jennifer, so my older sisters, they grew up on one TV station that signed off at midnight, crazy.

Right and Clarks, I know their sales had to go up after Yeah.

Yeah.

One of thember Clark's were a British colony, so Clarks has been embedded in the culture. I just brought it back exactly because like I said, when the cable TV came, this game or Jordan's came, Sneakers came Jersey Scane, so a lot of it was lost to the kids who came out in the in the late nineties. They came out we're in Jordan's and so so when I did Clarks, it brought back that old school style. Yeah, and that's why it's still so big to this day because it

Let me tell you how much we can get right back to the quick time of Slim. But let me tell you how much your fans are your fans?

Yes?

I posted like with multiple stuff, yes, And all I did was post a little bit of this right here.

What they heard that you got your visa was d m Yeah.

But before we get back to the Quirk Thomas Slim. I just want you to know. You know, I've been doing this for eight years, so I've been studying years nine years.

Excuse me.

I've been studying people's fan base. I study people's drinks, I study people whatever. And I tell you your fan.

Base that's crazy crazy. Imagine beehive on weed. That's my finding, Marbie on fucking.

Exactly exactly right, Ship.

Yeah, man, that's why.

Not respect like when you win episode recording that, Yeah, that's crazy.

And you know you know that because when I was playing that to a little Wayne, little Wayne couldn't actually understand. I had like almost tell him his fan base. But you know your fan base, you know why.

They was writing you in jail and yeah, okay, that is my fan base is crazy, bro like me back then, that's the cart was talking. That's my fan base. They haven't evolved with me, with me, they're still dark as fun. I like it like that. You can pull a Trump right now.

You can tell people you go go motherfucking the.

Court right now and don't say that time and at Yeah, I'm not going to tell that drink water Ship, Can I get a straw? Why? Why Damien Mary Damien Marty and Stephen Marley. Damien, that's Junior Gong. He's lop Steven still, but Junia Gown like the younger kids. A lot of young kids in Jamaica even say Junior Gong is better than Bob Marley because he not only sings, he dj he raps, right because he grew up different, right, right, I mean you grew up in between Miami and New York.

So and it feels like super was one of the first artists to really get into the hip hop.

Yeah. And yeah, of course because even Heavy D was friends Heavy Heavy and biggest first track is on that too. Yeah yeah, sometimes, yeah that is a legend as well. Yeah, that's something Ninja Man super Cats era when I was like twelve thirteen coming up in the eighties. Uh yeah, Extensive Royalty or eminem which song? Which song? Because royalty is a song? Which song? White trash, white trash party, white chash. Yeah, this is all you from here on out, brother, yeah, White.

I didn't because you recorded that feature for I recorded that song in prison.

Wow. Yeah, and Elvis, who was a producer, gave it to Shancia, so they left my hook and she just sang my verses. Right, how did that? Did you? What did that vexin? No? I wasn't vexed, and I wasn't happy. It was just like, yo, I need my money. I need Yeah, So I wasn't angry or sad. I was unpaid. Yeah, so that's all I needed. But yeah, big up and she reps anyway she goes. She shout South Cartel too. Yeah to be in her defense, she does. But Spice

You should take a shot for accident. Yeah, a shot. We knew this dance song. Mm hmm, what this one is fire? If you don't say Trump for a Biden. No, we don't want no political ship neither.

Exactly. Do you keep your visa? Yes, sir, the shots are here.

Preface this by saying we have some foul friends, right, Yes, I'm the only vegan I te here.

Right, Oh you're vegan? I tell yes. A little bit. Time to eat shrimp legend allegedly allegedly Jamaican born in Jamaica. No, I was born in New York. My parents from Jamaica. Here Yankee man, here, you're a Yankee basically Yankee. Yeah, yeah, that's a vegan. Do you eat pussy? I'm just second man.

Because because it is me, so you can't be your feet.

I said, why No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, okay, So what happened when you was going to the head, Yeah, you was asking leading that up because the reason why I was give some questions. Yeah, they gave me this question, bro, that's the question. Jerk chicken, the curry chicken. What the hell? That's why they gave you no that's a deep question, man, can't be a shot? You take a shot? Yeah? Yeah, crazy with that. But they gave it to me though, that's the foure part. He gave it. They wanted us

Then I went to a store in Kingston and I seen the Chinese.

Man. Ye, blood class, you will be a blood. Chinese are the toughest Jamaica.

Yeah, yeah, okay, the locks or dip set?

The locks is Jada kiss right? You got to say Jada, but you I don't know Jada. I love Jada. Why does Jada sound like Italian fucking mafia with that voice and that cadence, which is one of the reasons why he is artist soul. Yeah, it's very true. With his lyrics, yes, man, and the sound of his voice. It's crazy man, Yeah, rasip be sound. That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah, man, you take the next one, said cares one to slick Rick. I respect that you want to take two for the culture. Ye, that's that fever, man, know that I like it to that he took one for karas one.

And yeah, man, legends. I'm like, I'm not that young, so you know I grew up on those guys.

Now they're absolute legends, all right, Jordan or Lebron Jordan's that was easy, l A or Miami, New York.

I respect, I love it.

I'm America, New York, Brooklyn, flat bash.

You gonna take a shot for shot. You don't have to take a shot. I'm gonna take a shot for your shot. Hold on, okay, okay, but that's what I got to take a shot. That's what I got a shot. That's why I got to take It's got to be smart over there. Yeah, y'all not smart with it. He's like one plus one three yes, salo, Yeah, cheers you guys. Man love New York game man. M m, you got the nice one. You know. The gods version of salute

Okay, tables, get it, chairs, tables.

I like it. I didn't make that up on the spot.

I'm going I'm going, like some of your previous guests.

Analog or digital, and you're talking about the sound to say studio together exactly, that that's fintured sound. It's it's warmer. I mean, if you grew up on digital, you're not going to know the difference, right, But if you grew up old school, you're going to know that the analog has that warmer sound. So what they used to do in Jamaica when the digital sound came out, they used to still running back on the twenty four track after they mixed it, and then they mastered on the twenty.

Four chick and they still press it on the plates exactly.

We still do that. Ship Yeah great, Oh no, this is yours? Is the last one? Okay, that's the last one. How many questions are though? Yeah? Is seventy one? Yeah? Fifty ship? Yeah, let me let me add one. Okay, go ahead, go ahead man before they twenty two? Yeah, my pinker, it's not think it's future. Thank you for salmon. No, not Simon, that's Jamaican. It went over your head. No no, no, no, don't worry about.

Its empty noo.

Yeah. Yeah, he's asking about one is my brother? One is my son? That's three shots. Give us a mad story though, MATSSS is crazy, man, like I raised him. So when he came up from the country, he was like nine ten years old. Oh wow, So we came to Port Moore, so coming from does imagine you're coming from fucking somewhere in the country and you end up in Brooklyn in nineteen eighty fucking six, right, wow exactly. So he came up and now I mean he held his own he grew up rough just that the rest

The is it true that he created the laughter the Yeah.

I just remember we're a group, you know, and he did. He invented the world boss O World Boss Yeah. So yeah, like I said, I raised those kids. So yeah, when he came out you know, I got in a fat bends and you know what I mean, gave him an apartment because my life is dope. And I said that, right, Yeah, I don't know what I think. Dave Chelle, Yeah, I was watching it, yeah, person, yeah, and I heard Dave Chapelle say it, and I'm like, oh, ship, that's that's

And now he's back up being there, he's on some he's back to being right. You saw about the garments.

And his wife said, you look, I'm I'm joking. I'm joking.

I mean I think he might even appreciate that to a degree.

Yeah, yeah, if he does, I'm not joking. I'm just it's real. Conye is crazy, man, But I guess that's part of being a great artist, right. Yeah, you gotta gotta you gotta be fucked up. I mean, not byby all fucked up, but you weren't ready, I wasn't okay, Yeah, expect your right. It's crazy.

The last question, last question for Quick Times Love, did we get back into the interview, Yes, sir.

Loyalty or respect? Loyalty, loyalty, loyalty. I believe in loyalty because you can respect me. But if you're loyal to me, I know I'm Safeernie. Respect that you're not going to cause some dude he's here Connor robb him and shoot him like they didn't right by day. I mean yeah, I don't know they they don't want us to win exactly to now. Well, Yeah, loyalty, man, Yeah, of course, loyalty.

It reminds me of Norway saying left rack Iraq.

First of all, in Jamaica, kid can tell you Jamaican's a lot of us, especially back in the day We're well read and we watch everything that's happening in the world. So you on a street corner in Jamaica can be called televisions, Mmmm, televis like Israel. Israel in Jamaica have street corners called Mexico, little New amongst yourselves, that Bush. Yeah, that's just the street corner amongst ourselves, not like the

Is it given because of a reason?

Yeah, because of that struggle man, something that emanated something. That's why a lot of these street corners in Jamaica have those names, nicknames, you know what I mean. So you have Red Square, that's where Sprague Benz is from. You know, Red Square is Russian. You got little London down there, you got Mexico, you got Vietnam. In Seaview, we're bounty killers from Seaview. Mountain View, Yeah, mountain View.

Yes, yes, I ain't gonna lie on man nor Yes, they told me, they said, man.

Because what what what? Yeah? Had to be going crazy.

I didn't know, so I didn't know, like Jamaican love, I.

Gotta be rowdy. Yes, that's it, that's what. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I said. When you said Miami or l A, I said New York right right, goddamn god damn yeah, yeah, yeah, but I love Miami because it has the Jamaican climate, yes, and the palm trees. And we're very Caribbean here. Yeah, yeah, it's very Caribbean. Can I say very Demian mirror?

I don't know this, so it sounds very mindful. Yeah, moving on, Okay.

So what is what is it?

Garnesses Garness, Garness, Garners Garner, like one of the most dangerous hoods.

Garrison, Garrison, garrison, you know what garrison is. That's like a forder. It's just a real word from Roman military, from the military military. Yeah, Garth, you was locked up. You went to the one of the toughest garrisons though, That's what I was telling you, pick me up, That's that's but but you were locked up.

There and then that night when he when he came to see you bust around, shot a video there that night.

This nigga buster, the man came to the fucking prison which is in another garrison called south Side. Okay that's what I was trying to Yeah, okay, and he shot the video outside the prison. I'm in the prison talking to the g on my phone on my cell in my cell like yeah, man, stand up there. So I gonna send two men called link her. So I'm telling him, I'm gonna send two dogs to come link and make sure he's safe. And yeah, it was crazy man, Yo Buster,

Not only there, but I remember when you first coming out, and I remember a Buster going on how to deceive and literally tell people vibes, cattail, this is the next man you please, you know, vibe.

I remember this ship from the beginning. He believes in that man. He trust me, like not only believes in you, he like he loves you or something. Yeah. Right. Family and family yeah yeah yeah man. And we spoke about how you met, right yeah yeah yeah yeah. But once he came to Jamaica, we was like instant because the respect. And you remember he's he's American, so it's both his

A cigarette spoke a cigarette, thank you, sir, the.

Shout cigarette. You you If it's not the producer, you can't say ship which is fucked up, No, which is fucked up because it's not Jamaica. So I don't know it's not Jamaican. No, that's what I said. If I was in Brooklyn, I could have gotten the Jamaican cigarette, which is the craving, A craving air. You smooth the craven agg. Even a comedian said that you have craving Even a comedian said it. The other day. The man was like, oh, they are more Jamaicans in Brooklyn than Jamaica.

Yeah, because there's a lot of white people that go to Jamaica. Right now, they're saying that they might be a Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans in a little while for real, Yeah, Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans. So that's because they kicking on the perto Ricans out because of.

The justification justification and.

Tax purposes because if you live there for yeah, so if you lived there for more than six months or seven months.

You don't have to pay no US tax. That's crazy because in Jamaica, I think they work out a deal with the Chinese that you don't pay taxes on your business for like five years. So say you're a Chinese guy, right, highly unlikely because you're a dark skick, but just say you're a Chinese guy the Chinese.

Let me, why do I keep using John?

Yeah? Anyway you pay, you come to Jamaica, you open a business, Say you get five years what do you call it? Great speriod not to pay taxes. In the fourth year, you you send for your cousin from fucking Beijing the replacement and put him as the CEO of the company. And the company so the company is not paying tax for another five years, and they bring the next one after and then the next after, and.

That's when you have the craziest Chinese Jamaica's Because.

Exactly I'm gonna be honest with you. I see I was white. You know this is just a fake bumba clad that's not how we say.

That was a construction site in Jamaica and then they had nothing but Chinese workers coming out, and Jamaican guy was like, yo, man, look they won't hire us.

And so my thing is this, Okay, I have no problem with Chinese nationalism. The problem I have is with the lack of black people's nationalism. But we're not going to go that the string champs. Yeah, we're not going back to me that. Yes, they can do better, better, they can do better. We already spoke. He's just said the government can do better. You don't want me to go back to Jamaica government, No, but me and the government good. They dreating good. Like like I said, I

And we know you're about to get married, but before that, let's talk about short boss. Yeah sh shot yeah two.

Yeah, that's my baby mom. I've been to there since before I got famous and rich. But I mean, like I said, you see, prison is dangerous because you know, when you go to prison, ship gets weird. And I'm like, I said, she held it for years and then she couldn't hold it anymore. You're talking about your baby mom. Yeah, obviously, well we're talking about him. She she got caught slacking then. Yeah, but I still respect her still because I understand human beings.

Think about it.

People that love me like she I'm sure she loved me because she wrote it me. Even when she was slacking, I could still jump on my phone in prison. Surely go to the bank, shorty, make sure the lawyer gets that pay this bill, give this person money. And she was there right through. But come on, I mean, prison for fucking thirty years. What do you expect her to do? Like save the pussy. It's not a hedge funt, you know. But yeah, yeah, but I forgave her immediately because I understand.

I was.

That's crazy, man, And that's what people love about me because I just speak my truth and when I'm living music that I only live once. Man. So how you found my other baby mother? My life is crazy? Seriously, My other baby mother told me you're fucking hyping up shorty. She fucking some guy like literally, no, I didn't you know? Matter are idiots? Cloud. I'm like, you know, that's what I'm saying. Well, yeah, yeah, she gave me my sons.

Yeah we were.

You were in a fucking Yeah. I watched that he was star Yeah and that that's both death. Yeah, your most he's like a sizzler, a bunch of bank How he raps he's like like he's deep, very without trying, without trying, like it's very not. That was a good interview though, with with most death Dave Chappelle and Talib.

Yeah yeah, you know he didn't like Kanye was breaking about his hat.

Oh Talib, Yeah yeah, he seems like he's a funked up guy. Well this music is amazing, yeah man, yea. Even Dave said it, like this thing is fucking yeah about He's like Jordan. I was watching an interview with Chamellionaire the first time he met Jordan's and Jordan he was like, Jordan, can I take a picture? And Jordan's that nigga you got money or some ship? Yeah. The stories about Jordan's he you know the funny story about

Nah, I know that nigga.

He said, you went back to the I was like, you reworking, bro. I never know.

That's crazy man, you he's an ja Yeah man, yeah, yeah, that's crazy man. Yeah, So shout out Nor, shout outa.

He spoke to him, Jaya, Yes, while I was in the National Stadium in Jamaica. Why someone put him on FaceTime Wow and we was talking.

Yeah, yeah, because I'm just being honest.

Man.

When you say you're the world boss, it means it, man, it means it. I mean, like you said earlier, you said the people who named you that.

Yes. I like.

The thing about it is, you know everyone in here, it's every nationality and this goddamnit, yes man, because everybody wanted to be here to make sure we give you your flowers because you deserve this.

You are the world Boss. Yeah.

I like that, and we're so happy, Like you know, it's so inspiration for a person, you know, from the hood that can maybe make it wrong turn, take that turn and then come home and then re established. Like I didn't hear you complain, No, no, I didn't hear you.

No bitterness. I hate you home, went straight back. And it's amazing.

It's amazing, like to see what you're doing, to see how people are following you.

And it's real. It's like you don't even have to you don't have to claim your thrown no no, no no, no, people claim it for you.

Thank you sir.

And that's that's what's crazy about it, you know what I mean.

But there's anything you will I know you say you don't have no regrets, but there's anything you thought you could do better.

What was one of those things? Watch short Boss Pussy Moore. I should have put the dudes on her, like driving eyes, like undercover fucking agent to watch the pussys. That's time and I'm gonna be honest. When I met see them, that's my current fiance. It was twenty fifteen, twenty fifth Yeah, I met while us in jail, Yeah, in Oka. And at that time, me and Shurety was going through a lot because remember I'm in prison, I'm fighting graves disease.

I want to talk about that period because I feel like we just breathed period.

That's a monthly thing for time. I want to talk about that time. We just breezed over it. So that time.

Yeah, yeah, like that, yeah, Gaza versus Gully. You know, it got so serious where the government had to The government stepped in. They weren't giving us permise to do concerts. They shut that ship down.

They were like, bro, but funny enough, when Mavado and I were at the the King's House, which is where the government is. So we were there and they were like, yo, you need to shut this down. Let the kids know, because the kids took it very serious. Like he is small Tupac two point zero in Jamaica. I'm not even joking. I remember you know that he knows that. And the government was like, bro, we will shut you guys down.

If you're a star in Jamaica, you're a star all over the world. That's because I just being honest, as your cousin, I see the influence that Jamaica has around the world, around the world, not just as entertainers.

Remember Mark, Marcus Gary, he told the entire Latin America that's why we begin Panama, we begin Latin America. Costa Rica Venezuela is from Jamaica. He's Jamaican. He's not from Jamaica, but yeah, but yeah, he has this Jamaican heritage because remember, like I said, funny enough, Marcus Garvey, you know who was his right hand man, Elijah Muhammad. You used to run the Detroit office of the U n I A for Marcus. Really, no joke, I kid you not. That's crazy.

And for people that don't know, that's the founder of the Nation of Islam exactly.

Malcolm Xu's father was Marcus darvis right hand man. You know, they tied into a train track and let the training. Yes, it's crazy man, Yeah, how can you remember you weren't there? Yeah?

Yeah, Malcolm Mexican Autobiography, yeh, that's where I read.

Look, Yes, look At, look At. You can tell that there's influenced by Yeah, it's literally by Look malcome xt the Pose, which is the album Bob Marley did Disposed as well. So I'm sure he was into because Bob Marley sang a lot of Marcus Larvae philosophies, put it to music, and he puts high the speech that he made at this philosophy the United Nations sometimes it wasn't called the United Nations, it was called I don't remember United Nas, United Niggas. So Bob Marley. That's that's why

Yeah, but let me ask you access to Chris Brown.

Oh represent big up Chris Brown. He won fucking yeah.

Yeah.

My favorite song on the album is Residual. So who said yes I knew? Yes, yeah, big up Chris Brown. Man. Yeah, so ask Chris Brown, why do I not have a drink?

And come on, come on, you slacking?

You know brownie light skin girls in Jamaica we call them brown and famous. When he did Brownie Broom, the whole Jamaica wanted to fucking there was like and then he did black Women, a song called black Woman, remember you know stop Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, so that's it. It's crazy bro dying. Saw you set the trend? Yes, and we we we navigate the culture. Yes, so big big up legend them, okay.

Before I get into this, right yeah. Now the second festival, yes, Freedom Street, Yeah, oh ship you said London, right, Okay, let's forward to the third to the third one. Yes, let's say it's in Miami. Yeah, who would you put book on that?

Freedom caught up black?

And he's Caribbean as well.

Locations in Jamaica and Haitians have always been because Caribbean the most powerful countries in the Caribbean. Jamaica, HEDI Trinidad, remember Haitian Black Yeah, New York Okay, So yeah, Jack, it's sorry, it's the Fuckingian Jack right, yes, sir. Yeah. And the culture is really in the Caribbean man, and we share the love. Yes, I was in Trinidad the

If you heard that's when you when you came home at first we heard you was in Saint Kits.

Yes, no, St. Vincent Us. I want to visit the Prime Minister. He sent from his private chess everything right now, yeah, yeah, I am. I am I'm starting Jackie because he does his own stunts, right. Because so, yeah, we went to Saint Vincent, met the Prime minister. He calls himself world Boss, the the Prime Minister of Saint Vincent. Fucking fun fact, I got a call from the Prime Minister of Guyana. He was like cartel me and you is the world bar not that guy. Yeah, because that's how that's that's

There's a part of Cuba that there's a lot of Jamaicans.

Nine out of ten doctors in Jamaica Cuba. Yeah, because you know they do good medicine, right, Yeah, because they get it from the Soviets. Well not Soviet now, because that ship is all US Russian, remember us SR Right, yeah, Reagan fuck that ship up. Do you eat doubles? Doubles? I love doubles. Doubles is like fucking no, seriously, doubles in Trinidad. It's like jerk chicken in Jamaica. That's why when you said jerk chicken or coury chicken, I had to take the shot. Right. Oh, I like that girl?

So can you explain to people that listen to this, listen to the reggae music and listen to the dancehold music and listen to the culture. You can love reggae, you can love dancehol You don't have to.

Be a ra no no, okay, oh no. Even Morgan heritage they had a big song in Jamaica. You don't have to dread be rasta because remember this is the dreads. I mean, this is fucking fake, but it's it's human here. I got this from my brothers in Africa. I don't know who died and oh my god, yeah yeah yeah. But reggae music is a for Jamaica's so is dansall because remember, like I said, Dan Saull came out in

Oh wow, he's one.

Of the first DJs. Wow, and his son freed the number one DJ or isat Mechanic right. Think about that, that's crazy. The appeal and when he was in law school, he was telling his friends that I'm gonna free fives cartel and he actually did, actually did. What what is it? The l what is it? The T j P, j l P and the P and P and the j l P is the political.

Which the Labor Party. They were conservative minigans.

Yeah, they were conservatives.

They were recon at the time.

So you have you have basically like Russia's camp and pn P.

Basically that's why P and P even to this day we called they called themselves socialists.

Right, that's why you're saying started Yeah from the.

Cold War, remember just like the Nicarago with the contrast the Sandinist underneath us Sandonist. So it was that proxy were all over the place happened in Congo to with with Lomba happened in Kenya with So it's that they like you know what I mean?

You know the teacher man, I am, you know teaching.

Yeah, my program. I saw the people love me because they they know they believe in me because I'm not going to bullshit them. I keep it real and I seen my truth since I grew up in Jamaica. My truth is Jamaica's truth. It is what it is. So let me actually write for Jamaica. I'll give it right back to you.

Ros right, So let me ask you when when when Esketball was locked up? Right, they said that like one night every two or three months, he would come out, he would do something.

Yes, within your thirteen years, I've got lots of oh damn.

There, right, question.

If you had like how Essketball did he came out one night every two months? If you ever had one night about yeah problem, I'm sorry.

Yeah, I don't want to ask you what I As a matter of fact, remember you said Vibe Cartell was the group where you think you got the cartel. Yeah, yes, from escob Cali Calie Cartel. Yes. Yeah. So if you like with every two months.

If you can come out and do one thing, but in your thirteen year bid, what was that one thing you would do?

My kids? Man, damn, that's the thanks to my kid post wasn't the problem. I don't know if I can say this now you can say you can Yeah that sound free? Yeah right, double jeopardy. You can't take you back. So yeah, pushy wasn't a problem. Pushy was Oh god, no, not all the time, but yeah, yeah, ver y, yeah exactly.

Yeah, blood.

Forever. You know, Brooklyn is Little's Jamaica. Even though you're a queen's nigga block you fifty Nikki Love. Come on, come on, that's it. That's it man. Yeah, I know. You say you don't regret nine, and I can't because I'm still alive at for nine years old. What the fuck is there to regret? Come on, man, I came out a person Freedom Street. I kept Freedom Street with

Yeah, well one burner in Jamaica. One burner.

It's kind of derogatory because that means you only have one woman, and in Jamaica that's fucking frowned upon. Yeah, like what the fuck you're doing? Yeah, so big up seem She was like, well looked hard for me. Yes, when you left.

Your kids was in single digits.

Yeah, when I left prison, they was children. When I came out, they gave me grandchildren. You're writing my interview, Yes, crazy, congratulations grandchildren? Yeah, set my daughter because you know I would slapped the ship out of her. I'm joking. It's alcohol.

He's like, funny, not funny, not funny.

Yeah, but she's a genius though she like she's an A grade student. She's like a head girl of prefect whatever. She wants to be a doctor, So I told her she needs to invent something better than viagra.

Right, I wasn't. So how did the chepherd smile it?

How does it feel to be your grandfather? How liquory?

How feel?

Because they were single digits and they got double dish and they gave you, How did it feel when they told.

You you're gonna be your grandfather. It was amazing. I wasn't in prison at the time, so I've never seen my grandson. So when they kept the family day, which is when you can bring your family there, So they came and my grandson he met me, he was like, yeah, I don't know you nigga. You know what I mean, crying, and Ship gave him a piece of chicken. He took the chicken. Yeah, I still don't know your nigga. Well,

Goddamn Yeah, crazy little bro. I like drinks, shamp not just for the drinks. Ship, Yeah, Drink Drink.

Champ is everything I thought it would because, like I said, I was in prison watching everything. I watched the Neil in the Bush if you did the Bean Mane, I watched all of that like that and not just me at the entire prison. Yes, you watched Black No, I respect him. You call the black is like I said, he's Asian. He's fucking crazy. That's the Caribbean breeze. I think something is in the wind makes us fucking crazy. Bro,

Artists and spoken and since you've been out, yeah, but but we haven't met up really, No, I'm serious.

I met bond te Killer when he was at fucking Freedom Street. That's the first time I saw him since I came up. Remember this guy made me. Yeah that's that's what Killer said. Here's the kid down. Yeah yeah, yes, yeah, But like that Bounty, I'm the king of dan Saw, but Bounty is the king of artists. Think about it. This man met so many people. If you know the Bible. He's like Abraham because remember Abraham created the beginning Islam.

Bro.

I'm telling you, bro, Yo, you know what.

Give me the class for question? Bounty, I'm telling.

You so being the man, bigger, theself beloved, your catmember, Like I can't lie, I'd rather not say ship. So, like I said, Bounty, being a bog Ninjaman cartel. That's the top five for me. I love, that's the top for me and me. Why would I least be out Big up my manager TJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Scat that's my road manager. But with TJ, we call him the grnch. And this is why. No, he steals happiness, which is good because remember you know, we're artists. If

Nigga's my bro.

That's why we finished this interview.

I want to play your record because I need on the record.

Yes, yeah, yeah, I.

Gotta take another shot if you don't have to take it one.

No, I just want to take some more this fever. I want to take some more of this fever has to fucking what this hey look look on supported by a feminist. Yes, yes, yes, but let me just send you something.

I've cheered you like five times.

The Champagne is at the same height, keeps feeling that's so much dreams Champage. That's what she's very fucking I like her. She's she's the official. Yeah yeah, yeah, you.

Know you're huge in Jamaica.

Yeah, I know Jamaica.

You need to come to Jamaica.

I'm coming. I was not not not Montego Bay should do this this with you. I know, I know, I know you think so that we was going to see you, and then the next twenty minutes they said, but we were all our way to see you was in Montgo Bay. But it's a tourist part. We have the streets. We was ready to love, you know. But that's what I'm saying Kingston and Montego Bay is one and the same. It's just like New York l A, No, you're ready to go. It's like Brooklyn. We was Compton. The hood

Yeah, when's the last time you spoke to America?

Blood? I haven't you rolled this? Should I smoke you down if you fucked me up? American embassy in Jamaica. No, but you're American, so my ship is legal to make him get Boris boris is. So basically, you're telling me that this is only tobacco. Okay, thank you, it's only tobaccos tonight. It's only tobacco. Yes, and you know how slavery was tobacco is king. Yes. Disclaimer. If you're not black, you can't say nigger your vibes. I want to exclaimer. I want to, you know, commend you because I see

You understand does not.

Yeah, yeah, but we're still human, right, vulnerable and if you if you're vulnerable, don't be afraid to speak to people because that's a lot. That's one of the problems with the African American and the Africa Caribbean community because it's the move. Yeah, we feel like we've got to be shot all the time. No, you can be vulnerable. You can talk to your mother, you can talk to your girlfriend. But then then why do you love her? Bro? Why do you love her and spend money on her

Bro?

It's real, you know what I mean? Taking a shot to that, Yeah, bro, ship listens.

But yeah.

Oh oh the shot empresses here. Yes, that's your new nickname. Brohut, that's real. Like I said, I sing my truth. That's why I mentioned even graves disease in my song because, like I said, bid it inflames your body. That's why when I came out, you don't have that inflammation in my face, my stomach. But Bro, we're human beings. I have no shame in my game. Man, Like I speak my truth, it is what it is. Black people and

Bro respects Yeah, man, yeah, it's not that.

What's look I hooked them up. Man. What what was the feeling when they said you live in the jail, man, how was that feeling getting? I'm from the ghetto, so you can't hide me up. So when the lawyer said to me you're free, I was in prison. I was in my cell talking on myself. And when no, seriously and when Alexandra labich Is, I said, right hand, she said to me, I'm free, but I've been in prison thirteen years. I didn't want to hear from you, with

Anyone that knows me and Jamaica knows that I'm not no fool.

That's what I'm in because you know, look, you know, I tried to play it off so cute, yo, lory. I tried to play it off, but hes man, because think about it. I couldn't cry while I was in prison. I had to take care of my family, by parents, my children, a lot of people around me, plus the guys that I was charged with, So I had no time to be weak because all of them was coming to me. Oh Jesus Chris, when are you coming out? Yeah? What I mean? So I had to be shown for everyone.

Something goes wrong in prison, you might not get that's my problem.

And she needs the doggy style thing. Human nature, human nature.

That's human nature. So I can I could not be angry. I understand. I'm grown. I'm grown. I got a rested when I was thirty five, so over the and I learned to appreciate God more and be more spiritual. That's all you see on my forehead. I have loved God. Wow. If you look here, I don't know if you can see it. You see devil Devil that was me back in the day. That's what that's my that was my nickname. Look you see did you feel that you really embodied that? Bro?

Getting back to the music a little bit. Yes, what songs of yours do you think change the trajectory of your career?

The first song was question New Millennium two thousand and two, which changed Danceaul because the song was saying, decided a new millennium, different things are going meaning this is the new millennium, different things going on. That's what it says. So that's one. Tech Body show Me on Me, which is my first song on Billboard in New York. Okay, Then tech Body Girl second song, Yeah wait wait wait wait wait, let me and the Acon and the Shava Rans and the Sis No no if you're this but

It's an amazing story.

Norm It's beautiful. I love it. And what that means said, I want to piss. Yeah, we got one and we got one over there. Yeah, like I'm in that trajectory. Yeah yeah, but just that you, that's you. You need to like give ours the like Sean pa give me the sem Jamaica for sure, right now, Sean Palm. Yeah yeah, yeah, man, said Sean Paulish from up town. That means for the privileged part privilege because in Jamaica we don't have racism classes.

And what those lessons are from, you know, from life, from your negatives, you know what I mean.

So I never believe in losses, so I couldn't have regrets. And I've lost people that I love, but I can't regret.

The reason why I asked that because cooda black and he had he had a songs in super Grim and he said, you know, I know the perk was fake, but I still ate it. But because I was a gremlin perkose in. Yeah, I know you know what I'm saying. So see how deep that it was. And he regretted that to a degree. The influence of that. No, but I understand that. But think about this, I already drank like four bottles of fucking How can I regret it? I can't change it, right, you can't go back. You

I'm giving her props. Come on, Yeah, okay, So if I know. I mean, if I went outside, it was like that, don't drink from beautiful l. That was the l. It's not the loss lesson because once you're alive, it's not a loss. It's a lesson. And if it's a lesson, it's a blessing. If it's a lesson, Bro, I was last year. Some times I was in fucking prison. What the fuck are you talking about? I mean for America and.

I'm rich, that's right, sure, sure, exactly.

Just shout to that ship, no, bro, like I said. Even Massacre said it the other day when I was in prison, and I was so much in my positive energy that I've understood it. You know what Massacre said, I'm bigger Massacre. Its aid interviewing too. He's a big artist in Jamaica. He said, nobody can spoil my day. Why would I give you that energy. I just came out of prison, bro, thirteen years. I watched my children. They come from voice to men and not the groups

Let's suit it again.

Yes, one of the T shirts. And because he wants a student, cligg up. So I want to ask another question. You brought up massacre. You know, so.

As far as dance all right now, who would you think is like the top contenders and also like the defending champions of dance all right now?

Well, massacre is one popcorn. And I'm not just saying that because he's my protesting, but I'm also saying that because he's my protest So I learned from the best guy. You went to Harvard nigga, you fucking qualified. So gonsation is the Harvard Dance all so popcorn from then, I like like the younger kids after popcun like Shama and

That's the peace.

As well, because they rolled together and big up eeg now so bro Dan soul for me is everything, nor that I believe in it. It made a lot of us famous, the more and rich Mova cartail bonte be in a bush like Terry James. Even all the guys you asked me questions about why do you think I had to take the drag spraga because I'm not going to pick because all of them older than me influenced me, and the ones that I gave fame, they inspired me.

A sk ya moda is not saying your mother is a war.

Go suck your mother and look how deep this is. Sketch my, it's my big bra because Sketta was famous when I was fucking hungry, you know how that was. So he's my big bro. Popcorn is my son. Popcorn gave him the first sock mother for the here so you know, I'm conflicted, right, But I spoke to Scata. He was very mature about it. Popcorn was very remorseful about it. Yeah, and everything.

But but that's when he became a meme.

Was what was in your mind because people haven't this is the first time you're talking about it after that, What was in your mind when he was holding the mic?

Well, you saw my face. I was shocked because I never expected Popcorn to say that. It's like, you invite me to a party.

Why would say you invite me to a party.

But before you invited me to the party, me and bust Rhyme had beef.

Right, this is re just creating a scenario.

Why would I come to your party and say, bostam sokya mada. This is the biggest this in Jamaica. Yeah, yeah, that means I don't respect you. But this is here's the flip side. You watch that movie with al Pacino and Robert de Niro, Here's the flip side to that coin.

They organized it. I didn't do shit.

All they did was call me, Carl, tell you have an interview with Billboards four thirty. Okay, I'll be there. I'm there by four thirty just like when I came to your show, I didn't disrespect I was on time, right, hell yeah, because that's how we do. Thank you for your patience, you know what I mean. Thank you for your patience, sir, because you understand entertainment. Yes, so yeah, So that's why you see me and Scata, me and him all over the place together because he's one of

What's my eye?

No, my nose? I'm because in Jamaica, when with the mode you said you love you some mode meaning you love to fucking talk or you love to like show out. So but in America the slang is like I'm out. So I merged them together. So what's this under my nose? I'm out? It was in Jamaica number one on YouTube for like three weeks. It's a slang that I turned into a song. So it's crazy here. So you.

Know what more.

He knows, like I said, is out of the long hand of the New York. It's not Brooklyn, but were tough as fun right like why damn? Yeah, we was talking. Come check we we got Gotti over here. They're gonna stap it. Yeah exactly, we got Gotti. Yeah, so that's what time shot form port more. Yeah, let's go, let's go. Where's my shot?

Shot shot shots always live up.

Light skin girl in Jamaine. We call her brown and brinin Where was she? Hold on there beat? Yeah, you gotta do jay Z boom ba clop Biggie. Yeah, so this is the jay Z Biggie and a little bee a little bit your prodigy. Yes, hold on, give me a moment to think. Mob d Spragua Bens talking about you know my favorite New York rapper female? It's Cardi card She has to come to your wedding. You know

Yeah, let me tell you how I know your official gangster.

Yeah, you know how to laugh. You gotta smile, you know how to have fun. Of course when I see people who don't want to smile quite But you hain't been to nothing nothing. Listen, tell me one thing that you learn being locked up? Being locked up? How to set your hands in your jerkey off? I'm sure I sho okay on how d man or am I leg ship? Allegations again? Allegations ship? Yeah, but ask the question again, you know asking I'm going to see his answer. What

I believe in God.

Bro when I was even if you watch a lot of my old interoys, that's the Wilford I know because you watch America. I'm like, yeah, so he knows what soup is. I used to say, bro whatever x x X. Now I believe in Like my son, I didn't get to raise him. He gave me two grandchildren. Yes, so no, I can raise a granddaughter and a grandson. So I'm like that's yeah, yeah, I'm not to my grandson. Make sure you get a lot of pussy. I'm gonna have

Right.

Yeah.

When I said this, no, no disrespect. When I'm gonna say this, I knew that I was going to come out. But at the time I needed that extra energy because a lot of people were depending on me, not just the guys that I was arrested with, but my mother and my father, my children, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles. Remember, this is Jamaica. This is not fucking Wall Street ship. This is Jamaica. So I had to put my faith in something other than us. And that's when I got

Right.

The only thing that beats that, Wow, it's bars. That's why you see the the the places of nature of Jamaica. Yeah, discurpacs. So on one side of Jamaica, you're partying, you're in a tourist country and you're enjoying yourself and nobody fucking knew. And on the other side, fifty three people die in two days murder, so crazy. It is three people die

So tell me something. Since you've been out, what have you seen change the climate of Jamaica?

Nothing? Just the love for me. But my thing is this, why are you shooting people because you have no other option. You were in school and you were you could paint very well, you could draw jay Z and it looked like jay Z. But because no one cared about that, and you lived in fucking flat boards, no opportunities, no opportunities, so you just started to shoot. Yeah, gun man, no your batman. And it feels good. You know, life feels good because they're a man and man need purpose, get respect,

No?

But all you had left was purpose. Found it with your gun the same way we found it after the gun, with the microphone, music with the microphone. Jordan's founded with the basketball. But you don't punk. You want a picture with Jordan's nigga. Fuck, nigga, pay me. That's why I have no problem with Jordan's because I understand his mindset. Is it wrong or right, that's for people to decide. But I understand the mindset of the man because well, I grew up in the ghetto. I understand how it works.

Let me just say something in it, be in it with this yeah vibes, man, I'm being honest with you.

Yeah. Me being a New Yorker it's just a little Jamaica for us.

It's little Jamaica, New York directly. Yes, related. Yes, I always wanted to meet you. I always wanted to, you know, come into the same you know room with you, just vie with you. And then I realized one of my friends, one of my best friends in the world, name is Busta rhymes damn.

And he stepped to me and he.

Told me who you actually are, because I was not just the persona.

Yes.

So and when I tell you that man woke up four o'clock in the morning, you want to.

Get a shot?

Yes, hold on, hold on, because I said, okay, all right, I do that too.

I don't know what the fucus definitely out, all right, pour it in this let's go pour this ship in this ship. But my brother bust around not a lot. She what's her name, Jamie Jamie? Yeah, don't play me, but bob. Yeah.

Let me just tell you, man, when we started this and we wanted, we wanted to pay respect to the dance hall, respected the reggae wonder and our fans went so crazy. Let's say your show won't be your show wouldn't be official. Yes, like a referee with a whistle.

Yeah right, unless it's so important, unless you have like a Russian missile, but unless you have.

Bout the kingdom. Yes, and me personally, I think you and being the are both kings.

Bro, my respect, I love being the mine he was before me. How the fuck you not in respect a nigga who made made this before you from the ghetto. Open the doors, you bitch and winna do bitch business. I think you're real bunty killer, big up, your big up ninja man. After that. Me know, me and my father in the same league, you understand, So yeah, big Godi. God listen, any y'all know I'm touring it me my father, bunty, won't you.

That's right, that's the sort. That's that's the only tour. No the empty everybody, all right right?

Yeah, give me the fever, give me the fever. You want the bottle? Yea, give me the fever.

Let's get the fever.

Yeah. Yes, you know why I'm blessed? Yes, because my managers don't drink. Yeah. No, no, no, no, you know hold on, hold on, I said, hold on. I saved the day because it's not under your eye, on your nose. Get it. I'm out a mouth. I keep sucking it up. I'm smoked down. No, you can't fuck it up. You can't suck up your drink Champs. Hold on, hold on on, yeah, no, no, no, okay, gee, then do you know do you recognize your hip hop legend?

Bro, bro bro, Yeah, because you was before everyone.

Yes. Yes.

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