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this hey? Listen shares from Columbus, Ohio, shares what I'm getting off your chest. And I'm just calling this pread some positivity to all the black people here in Ohio around the world. Everything. What's up? Charlotte Magne, Angelie King, I'm I just want to let everybody know I'm a my day job, I'm like Union electrician, but I'm getting my hustle on as a relator out here in Columbus, Ohio. So follow me on ig at Sharon's Underscore Robinson A S H I R A Z Underscore Robinson very man.

I would like to link up with you man and talk about investing in real estate out there in New York and New Jersey. Okay, well just hit me and my Dean's brother. All right, man, y'all be easy man, me too, brother. All right? Hello, who's this? Man? Good morning for all the man of God, peace King. What's happening up? But get it off your chests? Man, Man, I'm just I'm a good spirit, you know. Me and my wife was getting into nar thing back toward cop.

I'm feeling understand. Hey, you want to get that thing to him? Hey, man, look you know I have a good one. Brother. Hello, who's this It's Erico. Hey, good morning, Get off chess Mamma. Yeah, I listened to y'all every morning, and I'll be damn I'll be tripping out on your shawl of name. I mean, I'll be laughing like crazy every morning at y'all. Well, thank you. I don't know that's a good thing about I don't know much, man, at least you through y'all every single morning, like every morning.

Everyone very much. You appreciate your support, but thank you so much. We have a great and blessed day. Mom. Who are you from? Okay? You too, That's all I want to say, sweet you. I love y'all. We love you back. I love your twin two. That's seven twin Hello. Who's this Hello? Hey? What's your name? Hey? Kay? Look, good morning. To get it off your chest. Mama. Well, I really didn't have much to say. I just want to just congratulate y'all. Y'all doing good and I thought

it was so sweet. How y'all games away money because there's really some broke. Stop calling people the N word because I'm fortunate people when it comes there and pockets in America. There you go. That's right, every single it's a financial struggle out here for something. Folks. You got it. You want you want to let you want to get some money to spey. No, I just learned somebody ten dollars yesterday. No, I'm with you. Budget. That's right, budget

that money, Thank you, mama. It's just something about that, something about them two words together. Just do something to bro nick broke, God damn lord happened? That's it felt like back in the day when you heard scrubs for the first time that I gotta get my mama. Huh, Hello, who's this yo? What's up? This is fort Corey? What I'm getting off your chests? Yeah? I wanted to call to thank uh, well, good morning to you, Envy and Charlomagne.

Good morning, good morning. I wanted to thank you for keeping you guys in check and uh being very beautiful every morning. Nix, my morning is better. Uh. I wanted to thank uh Envy and Charlomagne for all the work that you're too, especially in the mental health area. Uh. I haven't read books in high school, and since you've been doing the audible stuff, actually downloaded the book and I've been reading like the last two months now. It's

really got me excited. I love Audible Audible. I mean I loved Audible before I was in business with them, but they're they're great. Yeah. I do. Downloaded up Malcolm Mex's autobiography. I just finished, uh, Think like a Monkey, and now I'm looking for some more books. Uh. I wanted to ask if you could probably send me a book of yours if you don't mind it. I got you.

Y'all got to actually stay on hold though people be calling up here saying that, and then they don't stay on hold, so we can't get your address to send it to him. But I'll send you that. I'll send you a copy of my book and a copy of doctor to Walker's book The Unapologetic God in the Black Mental Health. I really appreciate that. And lastly, I just wanted to say, man, y'all got to stop the fruity stuff up there. Many stuff y'all be doing too much.

You and envy. Man, y'all got to cut it out, y'all. Well, I we haven't. I don't know if you know. We haven't flirted with each other all week. Well let's keep it that way. I appreciate that. Get it off your chests eight hundred five eight five one or five one? You got excited, But if you need to visit this up now? Was the Breakfast Club? Good morning, wake up, wake up, wake ya ask if you're trying to get it off your chest you man or blessed, we want

to hear from you on the Breakfast Black. Hello? Who's this? Hey? Good morning me? Lestia? How dj n V? Hey? What us? Hey? How are you? I'm fine? Thank you. Last time I called Charlomagne, you wasn't there. But I'm glad to hear your voice. I had a question for you, Charlomagne. Um, yes, man, why are you always why are you always yawning in the microphone like that, like, why do you do that? Why do you do that? Y'all? Ye don't tell me because I'm tired, because I wake up early in the morning.

Don't tell me that. Uh duh, it's sick something in the morning. No, you're not. You're not still yawning white. You're not still yawning wiping coal out your eyes six something in the morning. So you want him mute, don't know, abody want to hear all that? That's just to me. That's like somebody yawning right next to me in my ear. I was like, damn, sorry, what are you doing right now? You're like, oh, yes, as if you're don't really know, Well, you're gonna hate to know that. I passed gas too.

Sometimes not in my clothes though, oh not. Yeah, yeah, you've got to the bathroom. You put your hands down right anyway? Thank you? Oh one more thing, One more thing. Elijah McClean, Sandra Bland, Brianna Saylor. That's right there, you go out like that. Hello, who's that? Just about the yard before she said that, By the way, Hello, who's this? Hello? Hey? What's your name? Bro? Hello? Money making? Mitch? How you are doing? Money making? Mitch, you ain't making no money

right now. You ain't making no money in a recession. You crazy cut it out, Charlomagne, guard, how you making money? Tell me how you making money by giving proper advice on how people should post should be really cleaning that house. That's enough money for me to educate these people you're finessing. Of course, Um, if you really really really want to um chill as coronavirus or to all hospitals and everybody's home, just start from sterilization room. Start from the bathroom that

work your way out. Everything you use in the bathroom you can use around the whole apartment. Every hospital that's scared, they have training which sterility is important. So if you just experience your sterilization department and make the whole hospital sterile, then everything, every item, every equipment, every instrument can actually be used properly. All these money making mine. Let me ask you a question. People actually paying for this advice

of cleaning the bathroom? Clean your bathroom? Actually I agree. I agree that you have to do sterilization, but you do know that it's transmitted from person to person right exactly, But it depends on how many people are in your house, and do you have a team that's doing sterilization. This is the family. This isn't people from next door to my house. How are you making many of this money? Are you're talking about financial money. I don't need financial money.

I don't need no answers. I'm fine financial but yeah, my money there, but financially I'm fine. But the other money is the other important money. That's is information. Knowledge is post knowledge is currency. You mean you know so that so that right there alone, I'm saving lives by telling people I saw in the military. Seventeen years as a medical officer, I've done I've done the all forms of surgery. I've been in so many different situations. And

we treat every patient. Now this is the coronavirus. We treat every patient as if they were HIZ. Now we have to treat every patient as if they have HIV, corona and all these other symptoms. That's that's that's that's pretty dope because now you have to stay on top of sterility to the rest of your life. You understand, this is that should awaking all But thank you brother for calling man. We really don't understand. But you know, you're talking about that type of money. You're talking about

financial money. What other money is there? He made? He made currency. That's all right, Mike. Man. What I'm getting about I would stuff? Uh, you don't really mad? Years? So many you're waiting five years to tell us that. No, I'll waited five years, y'all. Man, I've been calling for five years? Great many, So what are you gonna say? Right? Man? To shout out? The boys of our bust porporating man, we on our weird work very better. If you ain't matter,

I'm happy to be alive. There you go, kay, we're happy to be here. I appreciate it. Man, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Out your phone in right now, call me at your opinion to the Breakfast Club top breaking eight hundred and five eight five one oh five one, The Breakfast Club winning. Everybody's dj n G and ngel yee, Charlomagne the guy.

We are the Breakfast Club. Now if you just joined us, we're talking about her recruise and a tweete put out. He said there is only one woman on earth. I have to please. Her name is Rebecca, not my mother, my sister. My daughters are co workers. I would let their husband's boyfriend's partners take care of them. Rebecca gives me wings, all right. So we're asking who comes first in your relationship, your wife, your mother, your kids, and for women, your husband, your mother, or your father. I

should say, your husband, your father, or your kids. What what's the uh? I should say? In what order? Does it go? Start with you? I mean there's no order, Like you know what I'm saying. You have to say for arguments I have to say. I'm telling you asking me a question, and I'm telling you there is no order. They are on the same, you know level. I please speaking. I don't don't need to do hypotheticals in real life situations.

I'm just telling you how I feel. I think at this point in my life, you know, those are all my hearts, and it's not about who comes first in that situation. You know, I will say my wife and kids are the immediates because that's your everyday unit, that's who you see all the time. So of course they get,

you know, first, first DIBs on everything. But it's not a who comes first scenario, Like you know, love is something that you you You have an overabundance self, especially when it's unconditional and those three enter teach your names, your mom, your wife, and your kids. At least in my life, that's just unconditional love. I got enough to go around, right, Who's first? Three women hanging off a cliff? Your mom, your wife, and your daughter. You can only

grab one? Which one you're grabbing? I got two arms, Come on, come on, two arms, and we can figure it out. Somebody I got two arms, so I can grab two. Somebody else can grab somebody? We can we can we can do a little centipede and get each other up, you know what, figure it out and get what if they fall? I'm jumping with them? Well, how doing to live for after that? Your wife and kids? And mom? Look what I'm gona hanging around for? What? Y'all? Well?

I would think that in my opinion, And you know, I don't have kids in r do I have a wife, But I would always think kids come first. But that just would be my thought. But the problem I have is him saying there's only one woman on earth I have to please. That's not true, and it's not about putting things in order. But as a five there, as a husband, as a son, you should feel some type of responsibility to all of these women in your life.

And there were so many people that came to your defense when you were having issues, when you said that you were being sexually assaulted that actually stood up for you, including Gabrielle Union. And for you to then turn your back and act like you have no type of what's going to happen when something happens to you and people say, well, I don't care about Terry Crews because all I care about is my own husband. Let his wife take care

of that. That's not true. You need people, and people need your support, and black women need to support more than anybody. Well, I see, I feel as your kids first, and I look at the same cliff scenario and the reason I look at yeah, damn. Now, I'm gonna tell you the truth because if I'm hanging from a cliff, I'm not gonna let my wife pick take me first. I'm gonna tell her to take the kids first. And my wife is gonna do the same thing. She's gonna

say take the kids first. Make sure the kids to say first, and then come back for me and your mom's that's really what it is. I got to make sure my kids us say first, me and my wife. But how you put yourself in the scenario? You said the wife and the kids. Mom? Now you all of a sudden hanging off the cliff with your pants sagging where you come from? You know what? You It wasn't about you, your wife here you talk about this morning.

It was about the wife and the kid and I if the situation happened, my wife would tell me to take the kids first. Yeah, but when you get married, aren't you a unit? So technically you and your wife are one. So I don't see how she could even be put into the equation. Right, I would just jump off they I'm going if they go, you know right now, if they jumping, I'm jumping. I'm gonna stay on this planet with y'all and be going to therapy every day

instead of just once a week. And I mean, ain't got time for that, going yeah, we all yeah, we all out. Hello, who's this henri hi? I think so the wife should come first because when she leaves the nest, and it's technically the man's responsibility to make sure that her basic needs are met, then it should be daughters and mom. Once you're not sleeping with your mom and

you know you're not seeing your mom every day. So I feel like the wife should definitely come first, and your kids I do, okay, So you want you want to come from? Let the kids be off, the kids done, plenty of five to kid homes kids, huh pretty pretty pretty much a lot of fire. Oh my god, all right, thank you, my god, hard knock life. Who comes first? Your wife, your mother, or your kids? Call us up

right now? This is from Terry Cruise. Is tweet is the Breakfast Club, go morning, the breakfast Club e j envy angela ye, Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club. And now if he just joined us, we're talking Terry Cruise. He uh put out a tweet. Yes, he said, there's only one woman on earth I have to please. Her name is Rebecca, not my mother, my sister. My daughters are co workers. I will let their husband's boyfriend's partners take care of them. Rebecca gives me wings. He said

that like that, That's how I interpret did it? Okay? Who comes from your wife, your mom or your kids? I don't respect it, And you know I gave him dunkey today for that. And you know I can't even knock him for how he feels about his mother or sister or co workers, because that's that can all be complicated situations. But your daughters, bro, Like, come on, man, like you post to love your daughters the exact same way that you you love your life, you love your wife.

You know what somebody told me a long time ago. He name was Dary Alexandry alexand and said, when you love your significant other the way you love your kids, that's when you really have a soul mate. Because you know, a lot of us don't really experience love until we have children. We don't know what real love actually is. So if you if you love your significant other in that way, then you really got something, all right? Well eight hundred and five eighty five, one on five one,

that's what we're asking. Hello, who's this? Hey? Hey, what's coming on the breakfast club? Did Jay from Vas? Going on? Jay from Va? We're asking if you had to pick one, who would come first? Your wife, your mother, or your kids. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna ride with my wife, So you're gonna have to take your clues. If I'm not mistaken, he said, the only one he has to please it's his wife. Yes, yeah, I mean that makes sense to me. Um, I mean I'm not I'm going off the verboe. I'm not here

to please my kids. I'm here to raise my kids. You know, I'm not here to a lot of kids be too friendly, or a lot of parents be too friendly with their kids. And you know that's that's not that's how kids score up. You can't be friendly, and I can't be friendly with your kids. Man, No, I'm not friends. I'm not not like what's that? What's that movie? What's that movie with Terrence Jay? Why did I not? Why did I get married? Where he was getting Yama?

His mama was all in his business and he was trying to please his mama when he needed to be trying to please his wife. And what happened at the end he buked on his moment. You know that's the movie. I bet it's based off real stuff. You can't you can't be like that. I've seen stuff like that in real life. I'm here to please my girl, my wife,

my mom. I'm not really here to please her because my man based on how he treats his mom, and that matters to me a lot as far as who I decide, I'm, you know, deciding to be with him. I love his relationship with his mom and that's important. And you shouldna help on how he treats his kids too, You should you should judge man based on how he treats his children. Let me see, Now, your kids, right, and you're gonna help your mom out when she needs you.

But when you're grown, you know you're here to raise her family as your mom raised you to do. Now, my brother, have you ever looked up the definition to please? Do you know what please mean? Please means to cause to feel happy and satisfied, to take only one's own wishes into consideration to deciding how to act or proceed. So that's when you said, like, this is the first time. The ages that I can just please myself. When you're talking about pleasing somebody else is to cause them to

feel happy and satisfied. He arranged the fishing trip to please his son, or he arranged the activity to please his daughter, So yes, you should please your kids. King, Well, you know I'm going with the white SI's first. For example, what the love thing like when you say you love somebody, or you know you love your mom, you love your kids, but you're in love with your wife, or you're sniffing

at other like. It's a lot of things that come with being in love with somebody that you just can't put on the same terms of loving somebody, Like you love your friends, you love your mom, but you die in love. You're not having sexual things with your those type of people. You're only doing that with your significant other. That's what love. There's some people out there, they don't love their wives. By the way, well you know I'm

going off doing what to do? You know, but I just rather please my wife because that's who I stay with. That's why I'm build my family with you. When your parents die, you know, you still have to please your woman that's still there, which is what you're great though your mom raised you to do. You know, your kids say I'm looking at like in love right now. In love has nothing to do with sexual right. In love says I'm just looking at it says you can't stop

staring at them. You feel like you're high, You're always thinking about them. You want to be happy, you want you've you don't want them to feel pain. You don't want them to feel stressed. I'm in love love my daughters, with my kids. I don't know what he's talking about. I'm in love with my kids. Yeah, I don't get it. I'm in love with my daughters. I want to please my daughters. But you know, and of course you know your wife. That's a different level of love. That's something else,

you know what I mean. Like, I don't know what's the story. More of the story is, well, I'm surprised the orphanages ain't more packed. I'm probably these foster homes ain't more packed because y'all don't give a damn about your kids. And guess what, guess what, tax time right around the corner. I bet you're gonna be so happy to see them little churing in You're gonna want to claim all of them on your taxes. All right, We got more coming up next with a breakfast club. Keep

the breakfast club humble. Say to the breakfast club. Hate me if you want, to love me if you want, but just use your comments sense playing at the breakfast club. Who's this dre slaying at the breakfast club? Man? While you're shying to man like your buddies, man, because we are laugh was crazy after I don't even think why you say we act like we bought buddies but butt buddies. That's wrong with that? Why just say this further thing to be stuffing about? I just told you what it is.

Who are you? Who are you with? Bronick? Let me tell you Nick, Let me talk to you. Let me talk to your butt buddy, Nick? Nick? Nick? Why you don't love? Why you don't love what's his name? Why you don't love Dre? Guy? Bro? That's your buddy and that's your bub buddy, and I want you to know that. Huh bro. He's just saying, y'all y'all be a little

off the chain with the comments in the morning. Man. Well, I think y'all should be bub buddies, um, because Dre rhymes with jay and Nick rhymes with y'all made for each other. That'sh bubba. Youn't love your brother? You don't love your brother? Give him a hug right now. Tell me tell you love him, you value him, and you appreciate him. Hug him right now. I loved you. Tell him, tell him you love him. Man, y'all whack man that's

the problem with black man. We can't tell each other we love each other, we value each other, we appreciate each other. But with me and Nvy do that? Y'all call us butt buddies. No, the subspect things you say? Love is one thing, because I love my black broke. There you go, So this little nives X y'all need a double date or something? Hello? Who's asking? This is data from d ain't Good morning? Good morning, dat ain't

from VA? Was up slander the breakfast club day day? Yes, dj Envy, I get so tired of here, and you say he's gonna get that donkey too? Can't you say it another way? How you want me to say? You can switch it up today? I mean switch it up all right? Let me try this. How you say this span of sake to today? Say she wants you to say it? Let's flirty and creepy? Oh I don't know. Okay, let me try Charlemagne? Who you giving that donkey too? How's that one little base? Little base? I like it?

I like it along. Maybe you can say something like, Charlemagne, I know you got a nice donkey. Who you want to give it to? Hey, that's a little freaky. I don't know. Good day to switch it up? Switch it up? And Angela we talked a couple of months ago. I told you your name reminds me of the East infection. You said you were gonna change and Angela deed, Angela team, you gotta let go of the yed. So you want me to just just own my family? Yes, she want you to turn Muslim. Angela acts No, I don't want

you to turn on your culture. That would be roved. But it just makes me hitch every time I hear. It makes me. Have you ever had a yeast infection pregnant? I did and it was not pleasant. So you're giving me flashback? I like y'all Goodbye day day. You can't tell goodbye Slanders Austin. It is awesome. Man from Houston. What's going on? Man? What's up? Brously end of the Breakfast Club? Man? What's going on? And I want to say, you know you're a real wo man. You know the

stupid everybody on the show. You know you I really looked up to you, man, Angela man, beautiful, your whole But I just think you know you ain't thought a thought it like like like you be talking about in your interviews, you know, to sir, I think you know you're a little bit on the soft side. I'm on a little bit on that. He said, soft side. I am a soft team. Okay, you see, like I said, Solomon slom A, right, I'm gonna come out to closing man um probably never never. Man. You know you can

look at it with a little makeup on you. Thank you night at this morning. Thank you. I want to know your girl. Thank you baby. Hey, today's National Hot Fund Sunday Day. But you have a crush on shot. I'm sorry. Why did you hang out hang up when they're flirting with me? I'm sorry you like that? Why ain't people when they flirting with you? I did enjoy it? Okay, compliment is a compliment, all right? Well, your makeup looks nice today, Bay, I don't win makeup, but thank you

for complimenting. Doctor Sandy's work is flawless. Skin. My skin has flawless by the way, sweet face, Hey, what's up? Sweet face club? I wasn't talking about you. I can't tell Sho does have a sweet face lay from alone. Thank you. Flattery will get you everywhere. He's stupid. Yes, slander the breakfast club. Sweet face, DJ, yes, ma'am envy. I need you to pick up at the stars, to find another word to use instead of amazing. I've been practicing.

You want to double dawn, you double damn gonna be amazing, and you say amazing, amazing. I've been practicing. You want to know what I'm not gonna lie v. He's making me say the word amazing. I'm like, when did I start using this awesome? Breathtaking, fabulous, heart stopping, marvelous, amazing, stay amazing all the time, wonderful, extraordinary, a phenomenal, sensational, spectacular? Can you sing amazing? Can you sing amazing? Can you

sing amazing? Grace? Uh mactacular? Grace? A sweet? I love you? But now all right, fine, goodbye? You do Because I was like, why am I using this word? He's always calling everything. I've never noticed you say amazing so much because when I call you amazing, you like it. I mean, have you seen my skin? What it is? Amazing? Eye would be like Carson's coming to be amazing. We had some amazing spots, had an amazing meeting with Lincoln Tech. My wife told me the same thing. I've been practicing

all right, we got more coming up next. We're a breakfast club, yeah Wanning, everybody's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Now we got some special guests, some special legends icons. They both friends to the room. They both been on the Breakfast Club numerous times. We had a brother eat forty but forty, what's happening? What's happening Claire? And also too Short? So

what's up? What's up? Man? Now? What? Now? What do we owe the pleasure of having these two icons on this zoom for? This is about the super group that I'm hearing about with with with forty and Short and Snoop Dogs. That's what it's about. You talked to Short about that. He don't want to let the cat off the bag. Oh man, it's it's big man. It's big man. We want some other other stuff right now, Man, we're doing um, we're about to do versus mans you mean

and forty on versus Now? How did this come on against each other? Yeah? It would seem like we might team up against somebody else, but now we're going against each other. Okay, okay, we're doing it for the bat Man that's short now pause pause pause. You know he Forty got a slick mouth, So how are you gonna deal with his his his slick mouth doing the thirty years. Yeah, I've been I know, up deal with a little bit. Man.

I can't control him, but he's he's uh, you just gotta like man, I told you before we jump in the car. So he got through a couple of jobs early because he gonna he's gonna probably like hey, maker you in a minute. I think, if I'm not mistaken, this is the first West Coast versus West Coast versus. I mean, we saw Snoop go up against X, but I don't think we've seen the West Coach versus West Coach versus yet. We would have did it a little earlier, man,

But I was resisting. You know, Forty wasn't really wasn't really into it. Man, for the fact that you know, we coolnest. It seemed like it was a war or you gotta go against him and talk bad and stuff, and we kind of like you thought it through and was like, man, let's let's let's do the bay. Because we basically are the story of the beginning of the bay, the foundation where it start. You can't really get too many stories that come before or even during our early days.

There's not a lot going on outside of you know, Mac Drey was doing this. Drey y'all three, Mac Dray y'all, y'all would be like the you know they say jay Z Biggie Nas, y'all would be that for the bit. I think Mac Drey forty Short. So you know, I was just like, man, earl, I don't want to do it. Man, I don't want to do it. And then he called

me one day. This is how they got me. He called me on it three way with Twiss, and now I got Swiss and Forty trying to give me the pros while they're doing you know, by the end of the column like all right, let's do it. It's a celebration. You know, I wonder I want both of y'all to answer this. What does the verses battle between Short and forty me to the West coast in the Bay Area,

I mean to the world m hip hop culture. Man, just showing that you know, we me and shure we go we go back like angel flights and members only jackets feel me. And so you know, when you think of the Bay you think of us too, you know what I'm saying in the same sentence, you know, and so me and Shure they never had no confrontations. All his people know my people from the beginning, br before rap you feel me, br br before wrap you feel me.

And so when once we teamed up and did that damn Rappers ball, we knew each other through the you know, through the soils and the traffic, you know what I'm saying. So it just only made sense. So many people was hitting us, like so many people was hitting us about this, this about versus that It's like, man, we need to see you you in short, you know you're in short. That would be the ultimate one for us. You feel me? And so I have brought it up to Todd one day.

I say, man, if we ever did versus what you do? If they don't know, if they ever asked us to do versus, would you do it? And he was like, I ain't interest. I wasn't really interested at first either. I'm wasn't interested because I said, why why do I have to You know, I got this body at work that I did. Why should I step up and show off or or prove anything. I'm like, bro, I did mine. I gotta I gotta cold running like you wish you a rapper, wish you could get the run I got in,

like wish they can have one of your runs? You feel me? So you know I was on the same page as him, like the same way, like you know what what we have to prove. But then you know, I'm like, you know what, man, this is. This is for for the culture. Man, It's for the for hip hop. Bro. They I know they all love to see it, and we feel like this is a celebration. You feel me. Now, y'all doing a joint? Aum, I know you me talking about it, but we're hearing is it Snoop Dog? And

I heard ice Cube? But y'all, I'm just kidding. Yeah, y'all bounced around and yeah, you know y'all curved us. But oh, y'all doing the album of the project. What are they talking about? Yeo, man, it's it's I'm saying like this man, it's twenty twenty. Yeah, we've been quarantining for a long time, most of the time me but um, I felt I fell out my quarantine for a while. But I'm back on it now and it's got a lot of time, man, a lot of time. So we've

just been doing stuff. Man, we would get out and about. He said, when I when I fell off my quarantine, I got it in man, like late summer, I was, I was, I fell off. But I've been quarantine through the whole time. I'm I've been. I got everything I need though, you feel me. You know I got I got positive income coming in here. You feel me, different revenue streams, you know what I'm saying. And um, you know I got this this nudio been, I got two snudios up in this time, you feel me. So music

is my life, you know what I'm saying. I'm just been thinking of you know, passion projects, man, and coming up with all kind of you know, things to develop, whether it's food, whether it's you know, beverages. You know what I'm saying. Doing this tech thing, you feel me, start up companies, the whole woolwap. So it's many things. And then at the same time, you want to tell them how you want to talk, tell them how that came about? Long story, short man, long story, short man.

We gotta, um, we gotta. We made a lot of songs and it ain't really like definite what it's gonna be, but it's gonna be something. And it's just a lot of songs. So who's on these records? Because I'm hearing the group is you forty and Snoop and Nice Cube don't Okay, okay, it's not official yet. It's not a group. There is no name, there's no like, oh yeah, the project. It's not even like that. We just we're just some ogs. Man. Everybody got studios and facilities and beats and you know

what I'm saying, We're just doing it. It's something. I feel like we're doing this for hip hop. And when I say that, because you could be doing it for the bag. Nobody don't need the bag. So basically, I feel like we got all these uh these rule and regulations and age limits and what where's the best time zone and what's the best era and who's the best age group? But all this stuff that's like it don't mean nothing to hip hop because hip hop is is

very uncontrollable. So when I say we're doing it for hip hop, which is my main motivation, is I'm fifty four years old. If we do anything, it's gonna come out when I'm fifty five years old so and to drop something dope and to be a working MC who's been working since he was fifteen years old, never had another job, like really like eating off hip hop my

whole entire life. That to me should be motivational to an up and coming rapper, inspiring rapper, an established rapper, like you sit there and look at you so over in the mirror and be like, what are my limitations? I gotta stop doing this when I'm thirty five, when I'm forty. They kept telling me that I was an og rapper when I was thirty twenty four years ago. That's right. And the game man, so we just drink we blazed and trails. Man, you can't tell me. You

can't tell me Fat Joe ain't doing it. Ain't tell me before they ain't doing it. Snoop dogg ain't doing it. Um, you know what I'm saying, busting right that we we the bag is consistent, man, Don't don't do this age is something in hip hop. Don't be an og and tell me that these young rich cats ain't doing it right. Don't tell me that, man, because when I look at my when I look at my strings and look at their streams I'm like, they're doing something right. We're doing

something right. I don't I don't knock them, man, because it's a new it's a whole new generation. They're doing it a lot different. But hey, we was once young. You know what I'm saying. We carried it a little different. But you know, you can't knock these junces, man, if anything joined them, you feel me, because ogs need youngces and youngces need ogs and don't have don't have the opposite um attitude either, Like all you old dudes get out the way. That's whack. You know, it ain't like

that man's there's a hip hop. It's for the world now, man, because that's all that shot, all that shot. Oh man, I need to wrap it up. It's too old. Would I ain't hurt it in hell alone? Anybody say that? Just aheaded with a mother voters regularly. That's right. The young artist should be looking at y'all and saying, man, I want that kind of longevity. I want that kind of catalog. Because one thing about you and short and all the ogs, y'all not getting paid for what y'all do.

Y'all still get y'all get payper what y'all done. Here you go, all right, we got more with too Short and EAT forty when we come back, dope move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, good morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still kicking it with E forty and too Short? But this verses, are we gonna get an album or single the day after the verses or the day to

the verses? I mean, it's only right millions of people. Yeah, you know, like I said, man, twenty twenty was that kind of year. I make a lot of music just you know, just because that's what I do. But in twenty twenty, it's like I got this whole new inspiration of you're gonna lock me up in the house with a studio. I'm just gonna start making songs. So uh yeah,

you know, I gotta I got some stuff I'm gonna drop. Man, I'm I'm dropping a project called Ain't Gonna Do It and it's um it's the beginning of this motivational I'm trying to like balance out. We got the pimps over here and the tricks over there, and everybody's out of control. So I'm trying to find a balance, like you gotta know your lane, you know, kind of kind of toned down the tricking a little bit hard on the pimp silence. You know. It's try you know, trying to like, you know,

be age appropriate. But at the same time, I'm not I'm not gonna be one of them ogs that go way to the other side, like girl, how much you want me to wire you and doing that? You still ain't doing no tricking. Short after all these years they say they ain't tricking as you were fit now, man, come on, man, it's not that's not true. Not trying to be a rescue. Ronnie and the cash Aft changed the game. Man. Well, I'm also got a project drop dropping.

You dropping dropping on the eighteen You got one on the eighteenth part, Yeah, I heard that you're dropping on the same day night before. Yeah, the same thing. My own project will considers probably about ten to twelve song somewhere around there. It's called terms and conditions. It's just really just gaming, you know, gaming folks up. You know,

that's my specialty. Just gaming them up, stilling, you know, giving them some party two, give them to you know, ride to mob out and the old schools or whatever, you know, the new schools whatever. So you know, it's just it's just gas like always. You know, I might need some terms. Oakland and Vale Hooks have been getting down. Back at our day, they was really like tight. Like we used to actually click up and go to different little areas as a you know, like we got our

Oakland mob, they got their Valayoup mob. We click up and go out as a supermob and just pop up somewhere else. We did a lot of that, but it was all based on crack cocaine drug sales. Like a lot of dudes in valayout sold and partnered up with a lot of dudes in Oakland and what's like little teams, you know what I mean, and forties people and my people was on the same team. So we would go to like like you said, damn FOLDI parking Vallejo. We pull up and be like you know, valaouts hosting that day.

Oh y'all just come down and show you some love. We're gonna hang around, moved around the city. That's how it was. And then you know, they pile up in their cars, pull up the open designated area, hangout and it was cool. So we come from a click, specifically Forty and his brother getting down in the game with somebody who's been with me my whole life, one of my best best friends. So it was it was always

real tight. But we wouldn't. It wouldn't. I would never see Forty and be like, hey man, you're rapper is tight, or hey man, when you're dropping something new, or hey man, let's do a song together. It wasn't that kind of friendship. But driven we didn't make records. So ninety five, yeah, many years after we met and we was on the same record label. I came in the ninety three on Jove Records signed. I signed the March of ninety four, already took my first record out of nineteen eighty five.

I Ain't never stopped. My first record was called Don't Stop Rapping. I Ain't never stopped rapper. When I just slapped the out of that ship and my mother cougar. I had a cougar with the gold luggage rack with gold tips, gold grill, gold deal against lights, the Gold League, burden, leanders and balls, cutting up every maine. Uh. And so that he taught me how to put just from his music, taught me how to put a whole bunch of game involved in my ship nine, so it's got everything. I

gotta be game orientated. Were you rapping in forty like? Around ever? I heard sugar Hill Gang in nineteen seventy nine, when I heard when I heard Robbers Delight, I was a rapper from then on. I just didn't have the access. I was in the marching band. I played the band from fourth grade all the way to twelfth grade, which some people might not have thought that was Cooper. I didn't lose no cool points Maine. I was still that.

I was still a fixture. There was the only form of music we didn't have access to, a whole bunch of We didn't have pro tools, we didn't have logic. You know Short, People don't know Short is a producer. I am too like my first one was mister flint Point. I'm one of those producers who never given myself a credit on a song. I just don't if it's me on my song, I just I don't put produced by too Short. But I made a lot, But why not because he gonna make the song sound better. Plus I

never make beats for anybody else. I don't want kind of want to this call of me saying, but sure, let me get a beat. But it's like what I do now is I kind of like work with producers and I enhanced to shut you know, refine it and do to it, you know, doctor Dre style. But if I was a producer and I knew how to engineer, I would be king like Kanye West or something, and I would never come out the lab. I would I would be a Timberland mad scientist. But I really don't

want to be that guy. I really, I really don't want them skills, because I really would never come out to the studio, So I shied away from that. I met. I met a dude named at Banks. He makes beats like me, except better than me. I was like making beats with Banks. That was that. So that y'all got. Y'all got people like Banks, doctor Dre dass, y'all got on new project. Everybody your name is definitely gonna be on there. We tapped into the natural resources that we

have access to battle Cat. I mean, really, I'm telling you, man, it's not like he learned. I did not say. We didn't say that. We're just some homies that if you want to call it something. Just call it snoop que forty and short. We really just like we right right now, we're jumping on these calls. Some about I gotta beat, wrap on this beat, send me a beat. It was around to sending beach to each other and it ended up being twenty five song we'd like sound good, so

we kept doing it and it's something. It's a lot of value to it. You're talking about for entrepreneurs. Were about to milk that. We're about to make it a bigger than music ll season. Do you understand me? Like other bro, But we're not a supergroup. We're LLC. That's what it is. Allee good, Buddy's exactly what it is. Everything we do is gonna be a business deal, a business transaction. It's gonna be it's gonna be the LLC. It's not a group and about a song. Watch what

I tell you what comes out of the partnership. It's something that I feel like, I feel like hip hop needs to like check this motto out. When you when you see it go down, you can you can smell it right now when you see it go down. Check the formula and let's interject this in the hip hop to where you know I'm gonna speak on something, man, I'm gonna speak on E forty and too short and then geez and Gucci. There was a point in time and E forty and too short. Well, we could have

turned our friendship to a Gucci Jeez dynamic. And we jumped on a phone call. They was trying to pretend that I was I was doing something against Forty. It's like nineteen ninety five and Forty called me on the phone. He said, Hey, did you say such a sense? I said nah. He said you sure you weren't on the radio this morning and said such a session. I said nah, And we got off the phone. Somebody had been on the radio pretending to be me talking hell is about forty.

It was hot and he didn't. Instead of getting hot and reacting, he hit me up and said, what's up? You know what I'm saying? He was still matter the scenes. I don't. I don't have to. Everything got to be publicized on the NetTel like that. Like I called personally and like, hey, we'll handled with this. You know what I'm saying. I just want to make sure. I just want to make sure I'm thinking crazy on that, and

you feel me that's just you resolved that. We resolved the whole issue by going in the studio and making a song called rappers Ball, and he's the first time what they do was that's the first time the word for cheesy was ever mentioned to history. So what I was gonna say was, if E forty and two Short would have turned on each other, it was a whole lot of what came with that ship. It would have been ugly. We would have fed up the story of

the Bay. And I think that, you know, Jez and Gucci didn't up Atlanta nothing, But I think that on the opposite side of like what we saw in versus with them, if Jez and Gucci would have been fifteen years twenty years of camaraderie, they would be E forty and two show. And I'm just saying it go it goes so far out of line. Man Earl might have a play on some money and he like, man, I'm moving this way that week, but I got a money play off. You want to get it? And here tell

the folks, man, I can't do it. Holed Is Short just shot me twenty five rats just on a text message like bad. You know what I'm saying, and what are the debate if forty crew in my crew turn the enemy and one of us got killed, what are we happened in nineteen ninety six? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, keep a lock. Let's get into an E forty two short mini mixes to Breakfast Club, Good Morning. I'm still kicking it with E forty and two short Charming.

You know the story that that short told, you know, just about communication, man, communication, It's so important. It made me think about Beggin and Pop because they were friends and in the movie and I y'all lived it. I didn't live it. In the movie Biggie wanted to call poking puffs like nine nine nine nine, Let it be, Let it be. So it just shows how far things can go when two brothers just don't get to the

root of the problem. Man, communication, let me tell you something, and also putting your pride to the side can save lives a lot of things. But misunderstanders and miscommunication even in the soils and the trenches in the you know what I'm saying, in the octagon, it's like that's how it be. It's like a lot of casts can really, you know, fix their problems just on communicating because it'd

be a lot of sideline up. Hellam messy in the background, and like bitches can be messy, a lot of folks start over bitches because you got to prove something to them instead of putting their podcast aside and say, you know what, man, I don't want nobody innocent in my family to get knocked down. So we're gonna try to diffuse just the best of my abilities. You know what I'm saying. Who want to always watch their back all their life? Man? You know what I'm saying. Uh, it's

a great world out there, bro lovely. You know what I would trying to tell these Johnson Man, It's bigger than Fox blocks, man, you know what I mean? You really do want to enjoy life? Man, That's that's that's the part that I always stressed that, you know. Short The first time we ever had Sendati Kamala Harris on Breakfast Club was two thousand and eighteen, right, and this

before she was running for president and anything. And one of us after who her favorite rapper, was that she was out from Oakland short off time and I don't and that and for whatever I mean, I guess you know, back then she wasn't on the national scene in that way, not culturally, just politically, so I guess people didn't really pick up on it. But she said too Short was her favorite rope. Let me say that too short the mayor,

the mayor Oakland. Well, you know, it's really like some DNA thing when it comes to the Bay, Like, okay, I like, I say, I'm I'm fifty four and I've been making music that I put out in the streets of the Bay since I was fourteen fifteen. So it's people like you could be in your forties right now and you was literally like a little kid who grew up on too Short. Like it's that much of a dynamic in the Bay where I'm on I'm on third, you know, grandparents and grandkids loving the same too Short

song right now? Yeah, I asked, I asked, Kamalo. You know, I said, if you, I said, if you're rock with too short? And what's my what's my favorite word? I can't say? She like, I can't say that, I can't say it, she said, she did. She said she I can't say it. I can't say that. I can't fit you. Have you ever had any reactions with her and Oakland. Sure, by the look of how how she is, I probably did pop out. All it's a small I'm said smoke broccoli. She said she did in college. Hey, she could scream

that she made it right now that's legalized. May you feel me? I can? You know in my young days, man, I only really dated super like nerdy high ships. I never really went for it, like the chick who's got like brothers like E forty like you know what I'm saying, when the opposite man, he's he's great, I'm really did I'm you know what I'm saying. I'm a real husband. You know what I'm saying. I got a wife. She's been with me since high school. You feel me? Sure

he married his high school sweetheart. I'm married my high school sweetheart. Sure, sure he'd be moving around. Man. You know, but that's my part of that. We we got two different things, but we we know we coasted in the book or to a nose that's not it's short. The part that the wife don't want you around like I know you're around. No, because he knows where they know each other, because they was short, respect her and vice verse. He know what, you know the limits that don't go,

he know, not to play. They put the bitch filter on me. Man. You know the bitch filter is they said, don't bring any girls around that you don't that you don't share your coffee table with, Like if you if she don't live in my house, I'm gonna tell you her. I'm unfolded. Let me tell how it happened. Okay, Short, when he comes to me, come work, work in the studio. You know what I'm saying. Every day, my youngest son, every time he over here, my youngest son to be

playing video games. She had a little video game in the back, video games and one or two shorts brawls, right, and he was a little he was a little like five. How he five years old at the time to like that for you and hanging out with the girls, and he like they you try to take my short, but you try to take my girlfriend, right. So, but they ain't doing That's the funny part. But the thing is one day one of the broths like, yeah, I be

over forty house all the time. They got back to us one of the right, and so wife was like, you know what till Short, if he can total more girls over here, boy always need a picture that you post with Pop Man with y'all drinking a forty and I always wonder what was the story behind that picture? Was we drinking? Was it a forty y'all drinking something? I don't know what it was that was that was he had Alexa and his Alixa aloxada him. I had Alxa, I had alexam my head. That's that was a drink

back there, Alexa. Um. What was the story that was at Rapper's Ball VI's video when we took the video a party? Man? Huh? The video was a party went in a video just still a party and it was at the same time, wow, you know. But Rapper's Ball was that we did then in Calibassa's right, And so pop I told Popa, who was gonna be it in La? He said, I'm gonna come through. I said, He said, what a thing at? I say, it's in Calabassa's right. He said, stay right around the corner. I got just

got a house right around the corner. Julie came, kick Hella all day with us, got toasted, play music the whole woo wap. You know what I'm saying. So in the video you all through the visit video rap think that day. That day he played us the whole macavelioum before it came out, Wow yea and Moore and some other ones, and he wanted to do a group. I forgot what he was calling to, but he wanted me Dyson smooth, hella just hella, hella ogs. You know what

I'm saying. Verses, then this verse is gonna be so classic man this Saturday. Make sure y'all tune in. Man. I'm excited for this fore. I mean, yeah, the main reason I'm excited because I always feel like the Bay Area doesn't get the proper respect it deserves and hip hop,

even though y'all influenced so much. So one thing I see the verses to do is it reminds people and and and not only remind people, wakes people up, like oh that came from that, that was them, Like, well, we're gonna tell some stories, man, I'm gonna bring y'all back to my Atlantic years too. I ain't. I ain't just a bay I put I put fifteen years in the Atlanta to a lot of a lot of influence. Yeah, a lot of little I see a lot of little kids in the lane to look like you where I

might if I had any kids that I didn't know about. That. With that, I met Little John Because of this guy right here. Man, he embraced Little John and me being on showls with them and running into Little John. We ended up working. Imagine question for you, do you do personal catering? Because gooon with the spoon do personal okatering. I'm so glad that you brought that up. So the gun with the spoon, let me tell y'all, So the gooon with the spoon, it's really some street ship. You

know what I'm saying. There's really some streets that I converted into you know what I'm saying. That all add up to the same thing. It's cooking. We could cook, yeah, build me um. So the goodle with the spoon just naturally half of it. It was natural, like an app for bro, you know, just being the oldest of four, you know, knowing how to cook and working at the restaurants. You know what I'm saying. Who working at the restaurant? Uh? I call it um um, I call it a Michelin

star restaurant, But it really wasn't. It was a Pernicia California. It was called the Commandos Restaurant and hell of rich people. I'm cooking London Broy, I'm cooking chicken cord on blue. I'm cooking I never heard this. I'm making making an orange roughie. You know what I'm saying, paying fried you understanding with uh with with with drawn, but with brown butter and all minds. You feel what I'm saying. I'm

doing that kind of mate, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, so you know I didn't mixed up with my magazine street specialty meals that I understand me that I made. You know what I'm saying back in the days and the glory days. You feel me? So I just quit it heavy the goon with But I do I'm gonna ask you a question. I haven't did kidding yet. You know, I'm just I just tore around with this. But I know what I'm doing because it's it'sn't laid up into

ko packing. So a lot of people don't know that logo when you see good with the spoon. I got a lot of coming, bro you know what I'm saying. I got a lot of meat products coming with that logo on that goon with the spoon and I'll reveal that in the next interview. Hell up, but this Saturday, make sure you tune into the verses too short e forty Man, we appreciate you guys for checking in so much. Man, we appreciate y'all. Thank y'all. We're having us on this platform.

And good brothers changed. Change that supergroup to a super LLC. All right, it's the breakfast Club. Good order it don't be a dusky because right now you are some real It's time for Donkey Day. I need to be a dark man. Did she get I had become Donkey of the Day? Breakfast Club bitches. Dunkey of to day goes to see PAC chairman and Trump advisor Matt Slap. Now, I want to take this time this morning to discuss with you cultural blind spot. We all have them most

of the time. We have them because what we think we know about other people is something we haven't experienced. It may be from something uh we read, something we saw in media on TV or film, heard on the radio, just observed in passing. We all make these assumptions about people. And what's dangerous about assumptions or somes is when a set of assumptions about something becomes common knowledge. It forms a stereotype. In some stereotypes a positive sum or negative.

Some are just dangerous. Some are straight up bigoted and prejudiced. For example, you know black men have bigger penises. That's a positive stereotype. Positive stereotype for black men. Negative stereotype for the women that believe that but then find out that's not true. Okay, the dumb blonde, you know, the attractive blonde woman. That's stupid as hell. I don't know who reinforced that on TV in your generation, but Kelly Bundy reinforced it in mind. Okay, the dumb blonde, that

was just stupid. All right. White men not being able to jump, they did a whole movie about it. Okay, how about white people not being able to dance, lacking rhythm? Okay, may not be as stereotype if it's true, but it's definitely some Caucasians out there who can dance word to justin Timberlake. All I'm simply saying is stereotypical tropes are a thing. Well, yesterday on Fox News, on the show Harris Faulkner was hosting, Matt Slapp was debating with a Queen.

John Hopkins University Professor Wendy Osefo dropped on a clues bomb for Windy Ocefo. Wendy and I have done mental health discussions before at John Hopkins University in Baltimore, great discussions. I enjoyed building with her, and I'm glad she existed on this panel yesterday because there is a stereotypical trope that black men get labeled often that she corrected. Now, Matt and Wendy were discussing Donald Trump in his interview with Chris Wallace. The discussion turned to Joe Biden and

his cognitive skills are lack thereof. And this is when Matt let his stereotypical trope about a black man fly. Let's hear it and pay attention after you hear it to hear what happened and how Wendy responded. Joe Biden is essentially trying to duck and cover, not have a full campaign hang out in his house, and none of

us are able to really see what he's got. He ought to take an hour and answer all the tough questions, and he ought to release his schedule every day that shows that he's full all day long with events Instead we see a speech here or there. He does interviews. He did an interview with a rap star and he couldn't even get through that without a big foible on the U ain't black. So I think the problem is is Joe Biden is not running a fully energetic, real campaign.

Wendy Opo. I want to get show response to this. What we want to hear is facts. What are you going to do for those individuals who have lost family members due to the pandemic. What are you going to do to ensure that we do not have another issue like George Floyd within our police department. That's what we want to hear. And when you know Biden made the comment about African Americans, that was not a rap star. That was Charlemagne the God, who is a nationally syndicated

radio host. You know, I know he's a black man. So he may think he's a rapper, but he's not dropping a clue box. Wendy Opo. Again, thank God for black women. What would black panther be without the door in malaj My god, there is something about a black woman getting somebody together on behalf of black people. Because what Windy did, what Wendy did, wasn't for me, that was for us. Okay, Educating Matt Slap in that moment

in real time is exactly what needs to happen. Remember last week when I said, if Nick Cannon was going to attempt to have a conversation about his assumptions of the Jewish community, he should have it with a Jewish scholar or rabbi, someone from that community who can correct his mistakes when he says something wrong, who can correct him if he says something they deem anti Semitic. That's what Windy Osephal was from Matt Slap in that moment.

See rapper is a stereotypical trope that successful black men get labeled all the time because, for whatever reason, when some white people do see us, if they see us at all, they can't see us as anything else. I mean, I'm clearly too short to be labeled a basketball player. So the only way I could be in first class on a flight or on your TV talking to a presidential candidate is because I rap. This happens to me all the time. I've seen so many of the mainscream.

I know what happens to you, and you got confused with Drake. I've seen so many of these mainscream white publications label me a rapper. I've been on a flight. He've had white people ask me, you know, do I rap? Do I do music? I always reply I'm a proctologist, and did I make a fart sound? I'm serious, But I'm not gonna call match slapper racist for what. I'm gonna just say he has a cultural blind spot. Okay, I can't fault him for what he doesn't know. Plus,

I used to really rap back in the day. Nothing serious, but I had a bar or two. And if all black people look alike to him, then hell, maybe we all look like rappers to him. Plus, tell him your rap name, son, I don't have a rap name. Maybe he's just familiar with the song black Men Don't Cheat, and that's where he knew you're from. No, that's not true. My rap name used to be Dizzy Van Winkle and

but listen, I love rap. You know. Rap music has saved a lot of lives, took a lot of brothers and sisters out of the ghetto, made a lot of brothers and entrepreneurs, and has provided a lot of jobs for a lot of black and brown people. So being referred to as a rap star. I would call that a positive stereotype, but a stereotype nonetheless. And the moral of the story is contrary to this caucasian's culturally clueless belief. All black men you see on TV are not rappers

and athletes. And you should never assume that, because Matt, when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me, because that's how it's spelled. Please let Chelsea Handler give Matt slap the biggest he haw he haw he haw. That is way too much. Dan Mann is now anybody I've seen this happen to you in real time, yes, or not in real time on video? Somebody who stook you for Drake yep. I get the same questions all the time. What team do you play for? You never

did that stop all the time. Yes, I do. Maybe baseball because you're Dominican. Maybe that's six I'm six foot. I'm six foot, So I get h with what team do you play for? Up? Yesterday? I got am I a singer? I got that yesterday, So I get it all. Definitely singer, definitely, R and B vibes definitely, Neil Soul, R and B vibes definitely. All right, we got more coming up next with a breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. You're checking out the world's most dangerous morning show. Morning

Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. You got a special guest on the line, The Brothers back right, Eric Dyson, Welcome back, brother, Hey man, it's great to be here. I'm thinking of the greatest hits. I want to start off like, put some respect on my name? All three, y'all put some respect on my day? Or here's the number, Gray Gray, Michael, Eric Dyson. The warning only is head. He's put out his seventeenth million book, A Long Time Coming In or

Reckoning with Race in America. It's a great read. It's tough read, very tough reads. It a tough read. It's a tough read because, like the first chapter is black deaf and that's that's very hard to get through. But literally, the whole book's theme is essentially about black deafen and like one of my first questions was it as difficult to write as it was for me to read? Yes, but not as difficult as the people who died That's right. You know, I'm from an older generation. I know people

can't tell, but I'm older. I'm sixty two years old. We didn't have safe spaces, we didn't have self care things that are necessary and critical and vital. But I know people say, give a trigger warnings. I'm in class my younger students when I'm about to watch the Kendrick Lamar video about you know we're gonna be all right? Should you give a warning? I'm not even used to that. I don't even think that way. I know I am sensitive to and empathetic with those who do. But I

figured the people who died had no choice. Im Matil had no choice, George Floyd had no choice, Brianna Taylor had no choice. The least we could do is to wrestle with and grapple with, in an existential, personal, political, philosophical sense, the death that they endured. And yes, is it tough. Absolutely? Am I trying to retraumatize black people. No, But I'm saying at the same time, if they could

sacrifice limb, corpuscle blood, then we embody. Then we can at least attempt to get inside their skin for a moment, to see what they felt, to know what the consequence of their death is and for us to grapple with that as the basis for trying to talk about racial reckoning in America. So yeah, it was tough, starting in the prelude with Elijah McClain, a twenty three year old young black man who some arguedents on the spectrum a

sweet soul, as sweet as one could ever imagine. And here he is because wearing a ski mask before COVID because he had, you know, he was anemic and as a result of that, he wanted to stay warm, and the police roll upon him. He says, please respect the boundaries. I am articulately, I am speaking. And not only do they ignore him, they besiege him. They take hold of him, they put him in a chokehold, render him unconscious twice. The EFT arrives, they put tedement in him, and then

a week later he's dead. I mean, this is the massive disregard for black life. This is the vicious, callous indifference to who we are. So I think the least we can do, yes, take a note, Yes, have a trigger warning. Yes we have to deal with this, but I think we've got to honor their deaths in many ways, and one of them it is at least understanding the

horror and tragedy of what they confront it. I wanted to put that on paper as poignantly, as vividly, and in some instances as graphically as I so that we can get inside of the trauma that black people confront and those outside of it so they can understand what we're up again, so we get to a point now where it's like that is it doesn't stop. The young man Casey Goodson died. We just had his mom on air,

and it's like, when does it stop? They keep doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over again. It's a great point. And when you're parallel what you just said with the video that came out at the same time of the white guy getting stopped by the police. He has a gun in the seat next to him. The police withdraw their revolvers and pistols from their hosters and point at the young man. He's arguing with them, I have a Second Amendment right,

I have a right there a gun. What you're doing is wrong. You can't have me step out of the car. He's arguing, vigorously, aggressively back and forth with them. They tell him to get out. Several times he refuses to do so, he says he will not, and as a result of that, they go back and for three minutes, and at the end of it he says, I'm driving

off right now and pulls off. This is the astonishing parallel to black people like Jacob Blake walking around your car and when you open the door and they see a knife, they commenced to shooting. Not because you've withdrawn that knife from your car and tried to hurt them, not because you've threatened them. And by the way, the white guy threatened them twice to shoot them. He threatened them to their face. So that parallel is assignishing. No, it will never stop unless we do something about it.

Maybe we could defund the police, my lord, Maybe we could have a radical reimagining of the police. Now, look, I know we're going to get into the Obama quote. Let me introduce it myself. I'm hosting myself today. Might as well do it right, Yeah, I'm Charlemagne. The lights can The thing is for those who have been hurt and in pain, and for the question you asked me when it's going to stop. Imagine that behind the attempt

to reimagine policing. All right, So reimagining policing means the police don't have a run or a copyright on public safety. Public safety is an obligation. Policing is one department that does it. We can remove that department or decenter it if we deserve decenter policing. That means other departments take

care of responsibilities for public safety. Do you know ninety percent of what police do ain't about stopping people and shooting people and doing that kind of stuff, or engaged in warfare with human beings who are citizens on the streets. They're getting cats from trees and doing innocua stuff. The problem is even when they do it innocua stuff with black folk. Oh, Walter Scott, let me stop you in

South Carolina because your left turn signal doesn't work. And then a little while later he's being shot seven times in the back by policemen right the officers later. I think. So even the innocuous, the every day, the non offensive stuff that other people can take forgot, Oh thanks officer, thanks for stopping me and thanks for giving me a warning, ends up with death with black people. So this is the desperation behind reimagining policing, reimagining what police people can do.

So if we decenter them, and because you know, these police unions are powerful out of all proportion to their numbers in the population right there in New York City. They are racially charged, they are racially insensitive. They don't want anybody reforming them. We have tried reform for how many years? How many decades have we tried to reform the police. Let's make sure that community policing works. Let's put community Let's put police people in the community that

they're policing. So if you're coming in from Delaware and you go into Baltimore and you deal with a guy named Freddy Gray, you don't think of him. Hey, that's my uncle, that's my cousin, that's my brother, that's my father. It's a kin folk. And therefore, when he gets louder, he gets the tuper dooper, he gets offensive, or he gets pugnacious. I can deal with it because that's the kind of cat I already know. I know how to deal with him. That's my home people. So we tried that.

That didn't work. We still get killed, we still get shot, hands up, we get shot, hands down, we get shot yes, sir, we get shot. No, sir, we get shot. George Floyd lying on the ground with ultimate respect, officer, Please officer. He doesn't say hey, dude, he doesn't say gift your m F. He doesn't curse. He treats with ultimate respect the person who is immediately responsible for his death. Just same thing. And mine just said, hey, you're good people.

You are very good people. I understand why you're doing what you do, but please stop. I wouldn't even hurt a fly. I don't even eat meat. Look at the respectability politics that have to be deployed to try to convince white people that I am a human being worthy of respect. We have tried everything. So what I would say respectfully to our former president lovingly to him, sir, don't be more upset with people who use a term that you think puts them in jeopardy of not getting

the goal they seek. Then you are outraged at the hurting pain that caused them to search for a word to begin with. Hi, we got more with Michael Eric Dyson when we come back, don't move. It's to breakfast club. Good morning morning, everybody, to Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the God we are to Breakfast Club. We're still kicking with Michael Eric Dyson. The right before we left, we were getting into Barack Obama saying to fund the police. Now,

what are your thoughts now? Obama is looking at it from the perspective of those in power and those who are politicians. Please please understand that Pharaoh has a different agenda than the people of Israel. That's right right now, And I'm not just in Obama. I'm saying pharaoh in terms of a job description. He runs the joint He is the president of the United States of America. He is in political power. He is different than those who are on the ground asking for requiring and demand Pharaoh,

let my people go. The problem is for us is that Pharaoh is one of us. That's beautiful. For many of us. We want it Pharaoh to be us. I vote it twice for Obama to quote be Pharaoh. But the problem is when we don't take into account he is seeing it from their perspective. And I don't mind that. His point is, let me give you some advice here. If you're trying to get over this ain't the way to do it for those who are in power. But those are on the street as saying, we've done it

your way already. And let's be real. If Colin Kaepernick had not called it a protest but called it a vigorous disagreement with the status quote, would it have made any difference? Is it really what the name is? Is it really the name you use, Is it really the description you give? Or is it the fact that you are black and challenging the status quo? If black people had not called it defunding the police, would it be more acceptable acceptable? Perhaps? Look, I'm a leftist, I'm a progressive.

I believe in being introspective and self critical. So I don't want to automatically be mad at Barack Obama for saying, do you want the commercial or do you want the product? The commercial says, Hey, I'm down with it. I'm defunding the police. The product is we actually get to dismantle the harmful structures and the systemic inequities that prevail. I stand in solidarity with those who want to defund the police.

If you can charge them for being unfelicitists or infelicitists by using a word that is problematic, their lives are problematic to the dominant sets quote their lives are problematic to anybody in power who sees a threat to the police as dangerous to American society, allow our lives being lost to be just as dangerous. So are you going

to be outraged at the horrors that exist? Or are you going to be outraged at the people who are outraged by the horrors that they confront And I think it is progress in America, in Black America, when Barack Obama can be even gently criticized, I agree, right in office, that won't go happen. You hater, If you criticize Obama, you are personna non black, You are a person right. But now a little bit, Charles Blow New York Times,

you have a curious post presidency. You are scolding young black people, and so I think it's legitimate and healthy. We can't be met at white people for uncritically celebrating Donald Trump and then say we turn around if we have any criticism at all of Barack Obama, we are somehow read out of the race. Now at the end of the day, can we embrace both perspectives? Can we be progressive and say, look, I don't give a dark

what you call it. I want the police to be challenged because they are murdering, killing, harming, hurting, tazing, beatoning, and shooting black people at will. What is wronger using the worst defunding the police, or the police who need to be defunded, or those who need to be redirected.

Of course the police are worse. On the other hand, I think that the left has to be open and not thin skin, and we must say, hey, you know what, even if this dude is not on our side, even if we think what he's doing is centrist and deferential to the status quo, and we ain't trying to reform the police. We're trying to deconstruct them and take them apart because they have hurt and harmed us. Even if

you want to do that, it's all right. If you choose a different route that might be a bit more savvy, that might appeal to those who you can, if you will recruit on your side to do your bidding with you and alongside you. I've only seen both of them. I've only seen one centrist establishment Democrat mainstream who has send it at Harris soon to be MVP Harris. She's the only president I saw answer to the funded police question correctly. Because She didn't even focus on the statement.

She talked about the why. She talked about what needed to why that needed to happen. And then when Megan McCain came back and goes, well, I agree with you, would you believe in the funding the police? And she flipped the back of her and said, defined the funding the police. Right, That's why I wish Baracco would it did, like, just focus on the why. You know what the why is? You know why these kids are screaming that. But see that's the point. You say, he knows why, but he

hasn't said so. You you give him the benefit of the cloud, all right, And the thing is he ain't really said so. Now, when you look at his whole interview, he was far more nuanced. I wish he would have said, Look, given the black people are being mowed down, let me let me be Baracco, let me let me channel Barack Obama, not his anger translator, but his nomenclature. Let me let me set you up, President Obama. What do you think

of the slogan to fund the police? Well, you know, um, charlotmate, The thing is that we're living in a vicious society where black life is seen as not worth much. When we turn around. Every day we see black people going down, hands up, they get shot, hands down, They get shot no matter what they do. So the question is not where we defund the police. We tend to defund schools. Nobody has a problem. We defund social services for poor people,

nobody has a problem. So why is it, I said to myself, Barack, why is it that they have a problem with defund the police. Because it's getting to the nerve center of American power. And so I would not dare using my bully pulpit and the enormous leverage I had. I sold nine hundred thousand books the first day. Take that, Mike Dyson. Here, I am for the president of the

United States of America. I'm not going to use my leverage to hurt the people who even if I disagreed with the term they use, I agreed with the hurt and pain being expressed. So inevitably, if I say something critical about the terms they use, I'm going to be crew did as being in opposition to them. And if you look at all the headlines, that's all they're gonna say. Obama criticizes. So I'm going to be wise and say to you, Charlomagne, the God, DJ Envy and Angela Yee,

that I defer that question to a bigger one. What can we do to stop black people from routine? We dye the streets of America. Don't run red with the blood of black people now because the people feel that you don't You didn't do anything for black people while you're in office. What do you say to that. I gotta go now, all right, we got more with Michael Eric Dyson when we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club back, It's the

Breakfast Club, DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We have Michael Eric Dyson in the building. I thought about this the other day. I feel like white politicians are scared of the Fund the police because when they the fund programs, when they are actually doing is abolishing them. So I think when they hear that, when they hear that, they're like, we're not getting rid of police because that's what they do when they the fund. And look, I know the left will get upset, but we got to

be self critical. You got to learn how to play the game, because don't act like you ain't in it. Don't act like you're progressive and radical and therefore you outside the parameters of real politics. That you got to get down to the nitty gritty and understand how am I going to be successful in the job I have. Just because you're progressive and you should be, just because your radical and you should be, just because your revolutionary and you should be, doesn't mean you don't have to

think about packaging, messaging, how you articulated. And to that degree, I completely understand how we who want to challenge the policing of America must take that into account. And what YouTube just brilliantly laid out right because we know the fear of white people is black people are gonna treat us like we treated them when they get in power.

That's why they're trying to keep us out of power, because they figured they'll do to us Jimminy cricket what we did to them, and that's not a good thing. But we ain't like that. Here's the kind of people we are, South Carolina Emmanuel Church. Nine people get murdered before the bodies are cold, we forgive you. That's who we are. So when we say defund the police, we actually mean that. We mean take one hundred and fifty billion dollars like they did in La, move it to

another part of the ledger. That's what defunding means. Move money into other arenas where it deserves to be had and directed, so that policing in America, so that public safety in America will be something that is far more virtuous than vicious. And what we want. We want what the police did with that way. Boy, when even when we wrong and got a gun by our side and talking cash money trash to the police or to the public servant of public safety, our lives are protected because

we are seeing as human beings. So I'm down with that. I want to ask you a couple more questions before you get out of here about the book, in particular A long time coming reckoning with race in America. I feel like colors was a team a theme throughout this book. Black Deaf, Blue, plague, white theft, Seeing Red, White comfort, evergreen hope. Well, what's the science and the colors? You are literally the first person who was asked me that question,

and that was my intent. Frohm to get go. I can't, I can't get you no war. I'm gonna get you an extra book. I'm gonna get extra I'm gonna let you interview me again, just because you saying that. I mean, that's exactly what I was about. I'm about the color coded misery that black people deal. Gold orb is the Elijah McClane chapter, because his co worker said it was like a gold orb around him every time time he came in. Black death, black people dying, right, blue plague,

the police of assaulting us. White colonization, that's right, white white colonization, White white comfort, and the colonizing of black imaginations. The appropriation of black futures and black death is the ultimate form of appropriation of black identity, the appropriation literally of the black body, the evergreen hope of Reverend Clemente. Pinkney, of the white comfort that Sandra Bland disturbed. So yes, I wanted to proll the coloring of America, the color

coding of America, the obsession with color. The obsession was raised, and I wanted to turn it inside out and talk about how it's redounded negatively and played in such destructive fashion within Black America. And that was quite intentional. Thank you for picking that up, my friend. That's a great note to end on. Then yes, I want everybody to go get a long time coming in or reckoning with racing America. Michael Eric Dyson does not waste words. That's

why he don't write blogs. He writes books. There you go. But you know what your brother, I write books like write hooks. That's what I do. That's right, number twenty three. I'm trying to drop him like I'm free. I'm trying to be like dj n V. But really I'm trying to be Charlotte Maidan to God. I got it in the carg of machinery. I do my thing. I see it, I believe it. I want you to conceive it and receive it by that book. Help me out with my kids.

I got to put them through college. Okay, they're already out, but I need to do something straight on anywhere, anywhere, anyway. Doctor. Until the next time, my brother, Thank you, Thank y'all. So Barry, Carolyn Peace King morning. Everybody is dj Envy Angela Yee, Charlomae Nica. We are to breakfast club now. Charlomagne, you got a positive note I do, man. I want you to say to yourself today, I am in charge of how I feel, and today I am choosing happiness.

And I want everybody this morning to just do a little small all note to self, Okay, a little small note to self, and remember that sometimes all it takes is one small positive thought in the morning to set the tone and improve your whole day. Blessings to you, Breakfast Club. This is You'll finish or y'all dumb.