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Nov 08, 20211 hr 34 min
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Today on the show we had Dr. Sanjay Gupta stop by where he spoke about lessons to be learned from the Covid Pandemic, vaccine Rollout, mandates and more. Also Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to the Oklahoma jail officers who's inmantes were were subjected to cruel and inhumane punishment when they were forced into stress positions while listening to “Baby Shark” on repeat for hours. Also, the Breakfast Club needs some humbling so they opened up the phone lines for Slander the Breakfast Club.

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To go in the morning break You're about to experience a morning showing like any yo to the breakfast club. What you guys are doing right now, that's the hump culture. Breakfast club is my morning sick. I need it and I love it. Something you like, You're really not popping until you do the breakfast clause. I've been waiting come

to y'all show man. I know you gotta be a big time celect me to be up and here you gotta be got to be big time Jen angela ye and Charlomagne the Guy the breakfast club bitches, take your good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo Good morning, angela Ye, Good morning, Charlomagne the Guy. Peace to the planet is Monday, Good morning, Good morning. How y'all feel lot now Monday? Back to

the workwek How is everybody's weekend pretty good? I opened my coffee shop, so that was exciting. I was there all weekend. Yeah, it's doing pretty well so far. It's been really really busy so I'm grateful for that for everybody that's come out. We're only open from eight am to two pm until after Thanksgiving. It's kind of like a soft opening while we're getting everybody trained properly, getting it all together, seeing what has to be fixed. But

it's doing great. Coffee is a great business. Congratulations. Caffeine is like a like a legal drug. Yeah no, and it's actually really good for you. I always talk about the health and if it's a coffee, it helps with diabetes, it helps prevent Parkinson's. It's an appetite to pressing. It gives you energy. It's just when people add all that cream and sugar that's what makes coffee not so good. Okay, I never drink coffee, but I'm gonna try. I'm gonna

come to your shop this week. I said that somebody was looking for you too. Yeah, I've seen. Thanks for the video. And we start with oat milk too, because we don't like you know how a lot of times place it's up charged for oat milk. But if you oat milk off the bat unless you requests something else. Yeah, I'm gonna try that now over the weekend. My daughter, who acts she's an actress. She had her play over the weekend, which was pretty cool. So I was by

her play watching her. Plan went to a couple of shows just to check her out. Of love seeing her be happy. I love seeing her acting. So I was there and I was also in Indianapolis. Shout to Happy birthday to dry En. I believe that's her name. She turned fifty. Her husband through her a big party in Indianapolis, a private party. It was Me, Jazzy, Jeff and Trey songs. I ran into Trey. So Trey sends his love to everybody up here. Trigger this listening in some Trey songs

earlier over the weekend. Now, he was telling me about the best thing in his life and the best thing that has ever happened to him, his child. He was so excited and he was telling me everything about the baby and everything. So Trey and this was in the club. This was in the middle of the club. Me and Trey was talking about kids, which was so funny. So you'll too old to be in the club. When you're in the club and you're talking about your kid, you

don't need to be in the club no more. The statue of limitations on your club appearances has expired because you really don't want to be there. Um. Yeah, no, we were both. We were both excited to be there, but we just haven't seen each other in a long time. So when you see somebody, you catch up, no matter where you're at, if you at the airport or if you're on the street or in the club. You know,

we were talking about that. We did that for a little bit and then we got back to you know, I had the DJ and he did what he did to get back to your families and now we DJ first, but in the morning we was back. All right, Well, let's get the show cracking. Now, we got some special guests joining us today, right, Doctor Sanjay Gupta's going to

be here, that's right. I know we always have a lot of questions about COVID, about the vaccine, So we have an expert who's been following this and studying this every single day for the past couple of years. Yeah, he has a new book called World War C Right. Yeah, so we'll kick it with him in a little bit right now, Front page News what we're talking about. But look, this morning, we are going to talk about this bipartisan infrastructure bill throughout the morning. But we also have some

other stories as well. You know, today's a big day as airline are preparing for a travel surge. We'll tell you about that, all right, we'll get into all that next. Keep it locked. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, bj M v Angela. Ye, Charlemagne, the guy we are, the Breakfast Club's getting some front page news now over the weekend.

The Falcons are in football. Falcons beat the Saints. The Browns beat the Bengals, Dolphins beat the Texans, the Chiefs beat the Packers, Titans beat the Rams, the Cardinals beat the forty nine is, The Chargers beat the Eagles, Ravens beat the Vikings, Patriots beat the Panthers, Jaguars beat the Bills. My Giants are now in second place. They beat the Raiders twenty three sixteen, And Charlemagne, I'm sending you healing energy. The Broncos beat the Cowboys thirty to sixteenth. They got

washed washed yesterday. We're still six and two and number one on top of the NFC. EA's with a bullet. It's not even close. Yeah, now we're tired of a second. We'll beat that show, Yes we will. And Monday Night Football the Steelers take on the Bears. Now Canelo Alvarez, he won, he beat planned over the weekend, becomes undismuted super middleweight chan mping with an eleventh round t K amazing fight man. Canelo Alvara is just too good man, It's too good. Plant fought well, but you know, the

way he was fighting just wasn't sustainable. He was thinking way too much punishment and leaving that left hook hopen for Canello all night and that's ultimately what took him out. But travel includes bonds with Canelo Alvaraz can understand nothing that just came out of my mouth. I still drown the drop on a cludes bonds for right now? What else?

And also Odell Beckham Junior was released from the Browns over the weekend too, actually Friday on his birthday, So not sure what team he's going to, but it looks like he wants to go to the Seahawks. But we'll see what else you got easy? Well? Airlines are preparing for an international travel surge because they have ease COVID restrictions here in the United States, so everything reopens today

to fully vaccinated visitors. And so now right now they're saying they've seen a four hundred and fifty percent increase in international plant of sale bookings versus the six weeks prior to the announcement. That's just for Delta. So they are saying guidelines require or non citizen travelers to provide proof they've been fully vaccinated prior to boarding a flight to the US. All passengers, including US citizens, will be required to test negative for COVID within three days of

a flight's departure as well. All right, now, here is what's in the bipartisan infrastructure bill that Congress just passed. It. It's a one point two trillion dollar infrastructure package that got passed on Friday, And this is something that's been in the works for quite some times. Democrats are saying this bill pays for itself through a multitude of measures and without raising taxes. But here is what's in the

infrastructure bill. It's going to create jobs, replacing lead water pipes so every American, every child can drink clean water, improving their health, and putting plumbers and pipe for their work. How long we've been talking about that. It's a gigantic issue. Yeah, that should have been a no brainer for so long.

And then there's funding for roads and bridges, money for transit and rail, broadband upgrades, upgrading the airports, the ports, the water electric vehicles, improving power and water systems, environmental remediation. And here is what Biden is saying about how this will all be paid for. That's a lot of money, guys, one point two trillion dollars. And this bill is fiscally responsible. That's a fancy way of saying it's fully paid for.

It doesn't raise the deficit by a single penny, and it actually reduces the deficit, recording the leading economists in this country over the long term. And it's paid for it by making sure that the wealthiest Americans, the biggest corporations began to pay their fair share. And so, and keep my campaign commitment, it does not raise a single penny in tax for anyone making less than four hundred thousand dollars a year. Well, how many compromises they need

to get that done? Because they did leave a lot on the table two point two point twenty five trillion dollars bill. Well, they have to leave out money for caregiving for aging and disabled Americans. They were going to spend four hundred billion on that that's a left out. Also, his proposed it would have expanded access to long term care services under Medicaid, and that's left out. It also would have improved the wages of home health workers, who

make about twelve dollars an hour now. Also one hundred billion dollars for workforce development, which would have helped dislocated workers, assist underserved groups, put students on career paths before they graduate high school. Also money to modernize VA hospitals. That's horrible, especially being at Veterans Day. Is this Thursday, Like, how you leave about eighteen billion dollars, you know, to modernize the VA hospitals. Also corporate tax hikes that Biden wanted

to use to pay for the American Jobs Plan. A lot of things have been left out in order to get this pass. Corporate people say no, no, no, no, you won't be raising taxes on us. All right, Well that is your front page news. We'll talk about this more in the next hour. All right, Now, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five one five one. If you need to vent phone lines to wide open, hit

us now. It's to breakfast club. Go morning. The breakfast club is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're man or blast, so people to have the same in We want to hear from you on the breakfast clubs. Hello, he's this. What's up, guys? This is Joe Man of Morning. Everybody Happy Monday, Joe? What up? Men? Getting off your chests, brothers, I want to get off my chests. These cowboys, man, you know, I mean, you score, He's a super Bowl winning team and you get it

banked like that Charlemagne? What you got to say? Man? I know you're not serious, right, you know this is the NFL any given Sunday schoo make Two weeks ago you had brag to me like, oh man, super Bowl, these Super Bowl contendants, Cowboys, we're going on so because we're six and two and lost the game to a four and fourteen. Every year, every year with the Cowboy, y'all went in the beginning and y'all losing player Quin how many how many regular season games did the Bucks

lose last year? I think it was like ten or twelve. No, they didn't. They won't the Super Bowl playoffs about ten and twelve other thing of the year before. I'm thinking about the year before that. My apologies, it happens broady, we'll be fine. Me. I want to shout out the traff or somebody who gave me a shout out after I had come. Yeah, you don't have the energy for your that's about to your car show anymore, and I want to use I think it was trash. It would

have a good shout out, man. You know, thanks man for shouting me out. You know, I try to pick up a good point. When you got trapping a call this morning. Man, we'll just send them healing energy. Yeah, healing energy. Happy more than everybody. Travis definitely gonna call cowboy fans. Ain't hiding, bro we're six and two. Were you talking about Hello, who's this Joe Jersey man? You like so may find too quick? Man, If that was with a one man, he be talking about that day

we're gonna run. How they got blown out? They got blown out? My giants that they didn't get that, baby, I know you're not sitting there bragging about your giants. How many games your giants won? This you tell me a second place though, we are number two. That man shut up number one and y'all got blown out. That's right,

that's that's fine. Let me ask you a question would you have rather take it that, taking that blowing out yesterday and be six and two or do what y'all did yesterday and be two and six or three and five or whatever the hell y'all. Love doesn't matter, Yes, it does matter. What is it? Win? There? You go? Any given Sunday? What is it you giving? Sunday's cowboys lost? Stop? It be six and two? Thank you, sir? All right, bron Hello, who's this? If morning? Is Mickey calling from Florida?

How are y'all doing this morning? They NICKI get it off your chest? Oh, just a couple of things. First of all, doctor Chargamay, how about our cowboys? How about them cowboys? I mean, we lost yesterday, but it's fine. Any given Sunday, we're still six and two out there, actually exactly one day. I don't mean nothing, that's right. ANTHELI, how are you doing this morning? Congratulations on the coffee shop?

Thank you so much. I hope you're doing well too. Listen, I'm just you know, with Monday contains, I'm trying to get into the zone. But I had a couple of questions. What's up now with the new infrastructure bill? Of course, this is that they pushed aside the Police perform at right. Oh, yeah, that's not happening. I just read a story about what

is his name, Marion Robinson. Now they're trying to push the case with the federal agents who shot him, and they're saying that the Police Perform Act could have helped them with that. But Dow therezation that they're not going to be afferent properly in my cade. Yeah, the George Floyd policing bill is dead in the water for now. Love that all right? And then the second thing was the afterworld situation. Angela. I know you're probably gonna talk about it in the rumor report, but how do y'all

feel about that home in fire situation? Man? While they're still investigating. I just feel like it's such a tragedy. I feel awful for people who lost their kids and family members. I saw a fourteen year old died, a sixteen year old. Just terrible situation. So we'll tell you what information we do have from all different sides. But I always always thought that majority of those festivals, something like that was bound to happen, though, I mean, it's

just because there's so many people. You're right, You're right, because remember back in the day when MTV was going they had the woodstock fred Durson lymp Biscuits got called out on all that Ryan and stuff, and after that they were like, yeah, no more, no more, We're not doing it. It's too crazy, it's too many people. We are not built for this. So I think it's kind of why I'm especially sin That's how this describing the

second incident with some craziness like this. Yeah, you know, the majority of festivals don't have issues like this, so I think they're just gonna have to figure out how to make sure this doesn't happen. Ever, again, you can't blame the artist though you know he was there performing. I don't think you could blame the artist, you know, I mean, I just think they need to, like, like he just said, they need to figure out how does

some festivals work and how some don't. And that's the reason why, like and when my kids go to the festival, my kids went to roll aloud. You know, for my son, I had somebody go with them, not to necessarily protect him because my son is is a huge football strength, but just to guide him in the right way to see things that he might not see. You know, like, hey, let's not go in that crowd over there because it

can't get a little crazy come out inside. I will say that from what I read, it was really nothing you could do if you was in that crowd. It was like there was like there was like people with drowning and people. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. It's just crazy enough to think, you know, with shootings and all that other stuff. You just now had to be worried about people just being so amped up, ye hyped up and yeah,

like being trampled. It's crazy. Coll condolences. Actually, I just wanted to call in, get that off my chest less Sharga may know the Cowboys, you're going to the super Bowl. We out here, baby j S. Congratulations on the new Queens and y'all's lives. He is getting ready to pop any day now, ya know. I won't be here you too too. Yeah, congratulations, y'all had a great day. Say blast just spending positive energy to all of us to that I like her, Get it off your chest. Eight

hundred five eight five one O five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Listen, Oh the go go report got it's all right. Well this Astro World Festival over the weekends. A lot of details are emerging right now. Is that they are investigating what happened. At least eight people between the ages of fourteen and twenty seven were killed during a crowd surge at the festival in Houston.

It was a group of about fifty thousand people in attendance. Hip Hop DX editor in chief Trent Clark, who has been to several of Travis Scott's performances, said Travis Scott's Hole aesthetic is about rebellion. The shows have a lot of raging. With the death of punk rock, hip hop has indeed adopted and patterned the new generation of mag pits. It's not uncommon to see a lot of crowding and raging or complete wild behavior at a Travis Scotts show. So to my guy, Trent Man dropping a clue box

for TRNK cluk my guy all right now. The Mayor of Houston, Sylvesta Turner, said the city had more security at Travis Scott's Astro World Festival on Friday than it did during the World series, but they are doing a thorough review and investigation into the event. They said, we had more security, like I said, than at the World Series, and they did send hundreds of officers to the event in addition to about two hundred and fifty non police security.

So they said about fifty thousand people were compressed towards the stage at around nine thirty a pm while Travis Scott was performing, and unfortunately, like we said earlier, eight people did die. The youngest person who was injured was ten years old. So in total, seventeen people were transported to nearby hospitals, eleven experienced cardiac arrest, and more than

three hundred people were treated at the scene. Now, the Houston Police Chief, Troy Finner, also discussed what happened and he said he warrened Travis Scott about ashto World about the crowd there prior to the event. He did express concerns about the crowd and that he said, according to the police chief, he said somebody he knows personally, Warren's Travis Scott also as well. Another thing that he's talking about is narcon. They had to use Narcon on a

security officer at Astorworld. They said that one of the security was actually pricked and they had to use that because he did end up becoming unconscious, and narkhan is an emergency treatment for opioid overdoses. So we don't know what somebody pricked into that individual's neck. But here is Houston Police Department Chief Troy Finner discussing. I will tell you one of the narratives was that some individual was

injecting other people with drugs. We do have a report of a security officer, according to the medical staff, that he was reaching over to restrain or grab a citizen and he felt a prick in his neck. When he was examined, he went unconscious, they administer narkhan, he was revived, and the medical staff did notice a prick, right, So they're still investigating that. They don't know what that could have been that was injected into his neck. Now another

man is speaking out, Kyle Green. He said he became parallel at a twenty seventeen Travis Scott concert in New York. He said he was at terminal five and he was reportedly pushed from a third full of balcony during the performance. And it was a severely crowded event. And so they also are discussing previous incidents that happened with Travis Scott. He did plead guilty to reckless conduct charges following Lallapalooza back in twenty fifteen, he encouraged fans to jump the

safety barricades, according to authorities. In twenty seventeen, he was arrested after authorities accused him of inciding a riot during a concert at the Walmart Arkansas Music Pavilion. A security guard, police and others reportedly suffered injuries, and as a result, he did plead guilty to disorderly conduct in a plea deal. Need to do none of that in this situation, or do what any of that stuff that he was previously

accused the door oh, inciding a riot. No, as a matter of fact, he did stop the crowd several times, and he did stop his show to try to get help for people at different times. So I would have to ask, you know, what's the point of reporting on that, because it kind of feels like when you know, somebody gets in trouble with the police and then they start

bringing up their past record, like what's the point of that. Now, Well, they're still investigating, so they're trying to see if there was something more that could have been done, if there's a history of things. Maybe security should have been up, maybe they need to have more provisions. There's lawsuits right now, which we'll get into, but Travis Scott did say this. I just want to send out prayers to the ones

that was lost. We're actually working right now to identify the families so we can help assist them through this tough tim Our fans really mean the world to me. And any time I can make out, you know, anything that's going on, you know, I just stop the show, and you know it help them get the help they need. You know. We've been working closely with everyone to just try to get to the bottom of this. I'm honestly just devastated and I could never imagine anything like this

just happening. I love you all. Yeah, I don't know what happened in this situation. I mean, it's easy to blame the artists, but the artist is not in control of the space. The artist is in control of how isn't in control of how many people come into this base. It's not the artist job to regulate oval capacity. I don't know what happened in this situation. I just know something went wrong and it's a tragedy. Well here he

is actually stopping the show to help a fan. Oh, we need somebody to help if somebody passed out right here. Oh to touch everybody, just back up, somebody jump in, Come on, come on, security, get it there. Let's get in there. Let's get in there. Let's get it in. And like I said, there are several lawsuits going on already. Manuel Salza was the first revealed to be suing Travis

Scott in Live Nation. He filed this on Saturday. According to his lawsuit, defendants failed to properly plan and conduct the concert in a safe manner. Instead, they consciously ignore the extreme risk of harm to concert goers and in

some cases actively encouraged and form fermented dangerous behaviors. Then there's another lawsuit by twenty three year old attendee Christian Parades, seeking one million dollars over allegedly being pushed into the show's general admission metal barrier and suffering permanent bodily injury. So this lawsuit names Travis Scott Live Nation as well as Drake and Harris County Sports and Convention Corporation, So there'd be numerous others. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot

of checks handed out because of this situation. I mean, somebody's definitely liable. All right, Well that is your rumor report. We'll have more about this in the next hour. All right, now when we come back front page news. What we're talking about, Well, let's talk about a mom who they thought on the airline she was trafficking her own by racial daughter. Oh my goodness. All right, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, So Breakfast Club,

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page news. The NFL. The Falcons beat the Saints, the Browns beat the Bengals. Dolphin speak, the Texans, Chiefs beat the Packers, Titans beat the Rams, My Giants beat the Raiders. We're in second place right now. Jaguars beat the Bills, Patriots beat the Panthers, Ravens beat the Vikings, Charges beat the Eagles, Cardinals beat the forty nine is, and the Broncos washed the Cowboys. It's amazing how excited y'all get

when the Dallas carve the Cowboys who washed. I just want to point out that the Cowboys have as many wins as the Giants have losses. Okay, and Monday Night six and two the Giants and three and six. Lets let's let's keep that on. You're talking about the pastortime, y'all. Not number two either. I don't know why you keep number three, actually number three behind the until you're not your number three, number two number and football the Steelers play the Bears. Now what else she got? Easy? Well,

let's I go out of Mom, a California woman. She is accusing Southwest Airlines of racial profiling. She was accused of human trafficking. She was traveling with her by racial daughter, her ten year old daughter Mary McCarthy, of LA. So they were flying to Denver after receiving news that McCarthy's brother had suddenly died. They had a brief stop in and Jose. They went on another Southwest flight, but realized they couldn't be seated together, so she asked flight attendants

if we could be seated together. She said, they told us we'd each have to take a middle seat, so with their permission, I asked other passengers if they would kindly move so we could be together, especially as my daughter was grieving, and they did. She said, people are nice. When they got to Denver, they were met by police officers on the jetway. She said, I got quite a shock, having lost my brother the night before, I thought that someone else in my family had died, and that police

have been sent to deliver the news. As for my daughter, she was terribly frightened. She was already experiencing the trauma of her uncle's death, and she is scared of police. Do the constant headlines about how police treat black people. She's black. She began to sob and was inconsolable. So yes, terrible situation that they would do that. Imagine that happens to your traveling with your child and you get accused of human trafficking. So she accuses them now of racial profiling.

She's got an attorney, and she wants the airline to be held fully accountable. I've been on a plane with my oldest daughter. This was a couple few years ago, and they asked me a daughter. I'm like, I hope. So they had this been a white child, they would not have been a raised eyebrow, according to McCarthy's attorney. Really Now, on the flip side, a missing teenager from North Carolina was rescued by Kentucky police. She signaled for help, and you know how she learned how to do that.

She used a hand gesture known on TikTok that represents violence at home, according to police. So the sixteen year olds from Asheville, North Carolina. She was reported missing by her parents on Tuesday. And on Thursday, a motorist called nine one on one they saw a girl in distress in a vehicle. The complainant was behind the vehicle noticed a female passenger making the hand gesture that are known on TikTok to represent violence at home. I need help

domestic violence. So it's a one handed time somebody can use when they're in distress. Oh, TikTok teaching people, thinks absolutely, And the sixteen year old learned that all right now. Fiser announced Friday that they're COVID nineteen anti viral pill, when administered in conjunction with widely used ATIV drug, cut the risk of hospitalization or death by eighty nine percent

in patients who have COVID. So the preliminary results from the child were so positive that they did recommend the study be halted so the drug can be offered to the general public sooner. So they're saying they're going to submit this data to make it as soon as possible to seek emergency authorization for the pill. You say you got to mix it with an HIV drug, with a

widely used HIV drug doesn't matter. Well, this is to help you if you already have COVID, so it'll cut your risk of death and your risk of hospitalization by eighty nine percent. Well, what if I don't have HIV? Can I still take the HIV A lot of these medications end up helping you with other things too. It might be made for one thing, but it also when used with visors COVID nineteen pill, can actually help you. That sounds like a lot, all right, Well that is

your front page news. The giants are definitely in third place. Okay, don't get quiet now, that's all you heard you. She's talked about something serious and now you want to go back to the The giants need some type of medication, all right, they in third place, but time for a second. No, you're not, you're not. I'm looking at the standards have the same record. But anyway, when we come back, doctor son, Sanjay not your son, so Jay Goopta will be joining us.

We'll talk to him when we come back as a new book called World War C. So we'll talk to him next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club, one five one, the Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same morning. Everybody is DJ Envy angela Ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. We have doctor Sanjay Gupta. Welcome. Thanks so much for having me. What an honor your

cold World War C. Who made you do that? Sir? Well, you know I've been following this pandemic for the last almost two years now and just fully immersed in this and realized that there are so many lessons that we've learned obviously about the virus and the vaccines, but I think a lot about human behavior, you know, I always sort of thought that if if something like this were to happen, the world would come together, kind of like

if there was an alien invasion one day. That's an alien invasions because that would bring the entire world together. Some people might think it's a conspiracy theory, and I believe it. You can't politicize it, you know what I mean. I don't know, Charlemayne. I think I feel like you can politicize anything. Nowadays they read and Blue and be like, oh, it's a Republican. You would think a pandemic would bring people. I mean, the virus was kind of like an alien.

It was something that we'd never seen before. It affected all humans, So why wouldn't all humans come together? And we didn't. You ask the question why I write the book because seven hundred and fifty thousand people have died and I have three teenagers and I don't want them to think that's normal. We could have prevented it, but we didn't prevent it. So you know, there's there's lessons to be learned here. Can I say something? And I

know I hear this a lot. You look so much bigger on TV, like I'm just I'm a good right there's like fun side, I'm so glad you because I keep on saying we need an expert in the room to discuss certain things. So they just recently approved the vaccine for children age five to eleven. Shot them in NBA are both saying they don't want their kids to

get vaccinated. Absolutely not, And I'll tell you why not because of the fact that the media pushed the fact that kids didn't need the vaccine or kids kids couldn't catch COVID and kids are you know, they're immune systems can fight COVID and they don't get as sick as adults. Like it was never a thing for kids for a year and a half. And the problem with the media.

You started one chapter and tell us one thing, but then you just turned all the way to the end of the book say now you got to get your kids back to the five to eleven. You're like, what happened? I look at it differently. I look at it like, there's some things you give adults and some things you give kids, right, and you don't give it to kids because their bodies are still growing. And in my opinion, has this been tested enough to give to kids to

see that we have long lasting effects. I don't know. Adults is a little different. I'm I'm already grown. But for my kids that are still growing? And what about what about measles? Vaccine? Would you given tested for years? How many years? But from the beginning it was given I wasn't here, no, I know, but people, we have been receiving this vaccine since it was approved for decades now,

chicken pox vaccine twenty five years. I mean, you know, in order to have long term studies on something, you'd have to wait long term. So you have a vaccine, would you wait twenty years before you start giving it to people? If it is not killing kids like that? Like they say, then yes, saying with baby patter of people with baby patter In the next though, it was fine for years and then all of a sudden, the

kids cancer. Well I see, here's the thing. It's like, how many how many deaths are you willing to accept? I mean, seven hundred, close to eight hundred kids have died. This is that a lot? Well, listen to this time last year, to seven hundred and fifty thousand people had died. Well, if you compare it that way, but let's put it this way. Chicken pox. We really needed a chicken pox vaccine. That was a huge scientific endeavor. How many people do you how many kids do you think we're dying of

chicken pox before the vaccine? I agree with This time last year, the media was literally saying the mortality rate for COVID on kids was very low, so don't worry about it. No. I don't think they were saying, don't worry about absolutely work. No, No, it's it's It was much much worse for for older people, much worse for the elderly, much worse for people with pre existing conditions. That's true. But can't both things be true at the

same time? Yes, but can't y'all? Also, I'm sadly we got you got to hold people's hand in this generation, right, So it's like you can't go from a little mortality rate the kids that don't worry about it till hey, everybody got because that kids wearing in school last year at this time, But a lot of schools were closed and now they are and it's spreading a lot more amongst kids, and they're bringing it home to their families

and people who might have condition. That is another reason I think that it could be a great benefit is that you could potentially help really bring this pandemic to a close because kids can spread this. Why didn't y'all do a better job for the path of the year and a half letting it know not only would it you know adults, and you know people would have bad immune systems with kids too, And when as soon as a vaccine is ready for kids, y'all need to go

get your kids vaccine. Yeah, I think I think, I think I can understand what you're saying, that the idea that it was really presented as a problem mostly for adults, which is which is the case? I mean, you know, adults, especially elderly people over the age of sixty five, were the most at risk, and that is still the case. So my kids are vaccinated now. My kids are little bit older, they're teenagers now. But I immediately thought to myself, boy, you know, I really hope they don't get sick. The

chances are much lower. But would I be able to justify the fact that they got sick even though a vaccine was available and I chose not to vaccinate them. I guess the real question ends up being, Charlotte Magne, what risk are you willing to tolerate. We put it this way. You tell people something, you have a ninety nine point five percent chance of surviving this, that means one and two hundred kids will die. Okay, are you willing to take that risk? I mean we we we

do this and we throw that around. But like secondhand smoke killed more people a year than eight hundred. Are you out here telling people they need to band cigarettes? Well, they kind of, yeah, I mean I'm not. I'm not advocating for cigre's. It's like that y'all raised the terror threat on certain things when you have say, but we don't know the side effects of what happens to these kids after they take this, you know, vaccine for years and scary point. But then you also say there's a

lot of passing around. But just because my kid gets the vaccine doesn't mean he can't get it and pass it around, Right, So I think I think that's a good point. So the question you're really raising is a COVID on one side, got the vaccine on the other. Right, they both may have risks, Yeah, right, which risk do you think is higher? Which one are you willing to take? We don't know the long term impacts of COVID. I'm

already vaccine and I'm not anti vACC at all. I'm just saying you're taking a risk you the way, right, but I think you have to decide which is the bigger risk here. And in the context of I think we know, why doesn't anybody talk about the fact that this time last year Democrats would have made people telling folks not to take the vaccine, Like, when will liberal media own up to the fact they are responsible for a lot of people beings keptical. Well, you know, you're

you're right about this. There is always politics involved with things, but it's not always the same politics. I mean, before the pandemic, you may remember there were measles outbreaks that were happening, and if you go back and you say, okay, look who was it that was not vaccinating at that time, it wasn't conservatives as much as it was liberals. It was young liberal parents that were not vaccinating their children. So there's always a politicalization of things. So it's agnostic.

I think, you know, to say, hey, look, it's always these people who are anti science, are anti vacts or whatever. That can change, but it doesn't make a right. The worst thing that happened with this pandemic enduring a presidential election year, because they did pull it aside that you had you had now Vice President Kamala Harris, President Joe Biden, then Governor Cuomo literally saying, who's going to take this vaccine? Don't trust the see in the FDA, somebody else is

gonna have to tell it to take this vaccine. And those clips now still get played over and over and over and over. I know, it's it's it's it's tough, Charloe man. I mean, I'm you know, I feel like sometimes pushing a boulder uphill. I think there's there's there's scientists who are who have been working on these vaccines for a long time. I mean, I can I can tell you that, you know, when it comes to these side effects, which you rightly raise, you know, what are

the long term effects? What they find is that the if there are side effects from vaccines, they almost always occur within the first seven weeks of receiving a vaccine. Almost always you said, side effects happen in the first seven weeks. Yeah, So that that's why when you look at these safety studies, they basically say, hey, look, we want to follow these patients and the trials for at least two months, because we know that the vast majority of side effects occur within the first forty two days

for seven weeks. So that's when you now say, okay, we feel comfortable with the safety data to say we didn't see significant side effects after that, we are willing to go ahead and authorize that. That's what happened last year. By the way, you may remember this back and forth that was going on where the President said, go ahead and just get this thing out there. This was in October of last year, early November of last year, right before the election, and the FDA came back and said, hey, look,

this is how we've done things forever. We're gonna wait for the safety data. We're not going to rush that part of things. And that I think was a great decision by the FDA. People said, hey, the FDA is now politicizing this. They're waiting too long. They're gonna they're not gonna authorize this until after the election. Well, the issue was that the safety data wasn't coming back until after the election. By the way, we've had some six billion of these shots now given out around the world.

Six billion. I mean, what else has data like that around the world. Six billion things. You know, Staton drugs. There was adverse side effects y'all would know by now, Yes, that's the thing. And they were finding things that were really really rare, like I'm talking one in one hundred thousand, one in a million sort of things they were finding. Correct, that was the big thing, the blood clots. I thought that was an example of how the system should work.

They halted the trial for Johnson and Johnson. They said, let's figure this out. And then once they realized that the trials could continue, they went on, all right, we have more with doctor Sanjay Gupta. When we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, but she gonna slide right on my side. I knowed it with a friend. Then we skirt off in the bed. Everybody's DJ Envy Angela Yee Chalomagne, the guy we ought to Breakfast Club

was still kicking it with doctor Sanjay Gupta Chalomagne. So you can't like look at people and be like, oh my god, why don't you getting your kids vaccinated? When you know we're just getting this new information and we're getting another information. We get a whole set another different information for year and a half, I hear you, man, I really do, and I guess for me, it's just one of these things. Because I've been so immersed in it.

I've known children who've gotten sick, and I've known children who didn't get that sick, but even months later, still have symptoms. And when I say symptoms, I'm talking about teenagers who have to take three or four hour naps every day, these COVID naps that they call them. They still complain of brain fog, they still have no taste, they have headaches all the time. These were perfectly healthy kids that didn't even get that sick. And again, I

think to myself, if that is largely preventable. And I'm not going to say vaccines are one hundred percent effective, that's another discussion, but they're so effective that why wouldn't I. Why wouldn't I do this? I think sometimes, you know, and it's no fault to use, just a human flaw.

When you're immersed in something, you just assume everybody else. Well, I'm on TV, you know, talking about this all the time, and I realized not everyone is watching the stuff, and also people After a while, it gets depressing to hear about a pandemic every day. They call it empathy fatigue. If I tell you the story of one person with this one particular problem, and I tell you their entire life, and I tell you their story, you probably are to watch that story and have a lot of compassion for

that person. But if I tell you that same story ten times, it's not like you have ten times the amount of compassion. You actually have the same amount of compassion divided ten times. It's the same thing about the aliens again. Why didn't we all come together here in the beginning? You know, there was a study that came out and said, hey, if everyone just wore a mask when you go outside in public, if you do that, you could be part of a movement that could save

forty thousand lives. That was a study that came out sometime in the prior to that, Doctor Fauci, you didn't have That's why why do we play these games like we don't act like the people that we're listening too hard to experts like yourself, like the doctor Fauci's didn't put out this information at some point. Well, there is an expectation that science is always going to be absolutely certain from the beginning they think science is going to be like math, that two plus two is always going

to equal four. Here's the deal. And again I think the nuance of this is important. But the difference with this virus is that we realized that people could spread this virus even if they had no symptoms themselves. That's unusual. And when that became clear in the spring of last year, then it became clear that people should wear masks. But I think that when it comes to scientific certainty, if that's what you're demanding, you're probably never going to have that.

So why fire people like for instance, right, you are a healthcare worker, you will work. And when there was no ppe, you guys were out there, no vaccine were essential. Yes, you were a phraise, we did parades, we bought you pizza, We did all of that. You bought me pizza. So now now when it comes to us and now some of these healthcare workers don't want to take the vaccine, yea, So now we fire them the same ones that were our heroes and working with no vaccine and when nobody

was there, they were there. Mandates are they're tough? I mean they're about those mandates. Well, I think that if you're a healthcare worker and you're taking care of the most vulnerable people and you could potentially be a source of transmission. I think that's a problem. But do you fire them? Do you put them into another division? Do you just put them with a secretary. That's a good question. Maybe maybe maybe they maybe they could be in a

position where they're not directly taking care of patients. Like, let's put it this way. What if your loved one was in the hospital and as a result of somebody not being vaccinated in the hospital, You're loved one who's already sick, already vulnerable, now gets COVID because a healthcare worker transmitted it to them. Could you justify that? I mean, do we I mean it's kind of like him. Maybe not fire them. Had to get you had to get checked before you came up in this building. Yeah you could.

You could. You could do testing and have it. You could still test negative and have it. And by the way, somebody who's vaccinating could have it as well and still testing much have it. But that gets back to the to the idea idea of risk. You're that's true, but you're far less likely dj to to have it to get it to transmit it if you've been vaccinated. If you're demanding one hundred percent protection with anything probably in life, you're not going to get it. What does that mean

you don't try at all? Yeah? What if a healthcare worker was like, I don't want to wear gloves or a mask because I don't feel like that really does anything right. The vaccination is way different than gloves in the mask. Some people feel differently about it because we haven't been gotten we haven't been given to one hundred percent facts. Everything changes, and you can understand why people are a little weary because we don't know. Every week

something changes. We are all going through something that is truly unprecedented together. This virus is new, So the idea that we didn't know exactly how to handle it in the beginning shouldn't really surprise anybody. Doctor. If more people would have said that early on, even the experts, I guarantee you you'd be seeing a different response from the American public like, yeah, we don't know what this is.

But I feel like experts also didn't know, because I'm sure you would getting new evidence and then realizing different things. I think absolutely you know, and I think one of the big ones. Was this idea that this virus would spread asymptomatically, these silent carriers of the virus. What about

the variants? How much has that changed the course? That changed things a lot, because we thought in many ways going into the summer of last year that the numbers were going to go down and they were going to stay down. Typically, you know, viruses don't spread as well when it gets hotter and more humid outside. But then Delta and all of a sudden things started happening again. Numbers started going up that would have been very hard to predict. And we may have another variant. I will

tell you this. And again you guys are right to say, hey, look, be skeptical of things. But we're following a lot of these variants now. They are named for the letters of the Greek alphabet, So Delta, we're going all the way down to Mew and seeing are there other variants that are of concern? And the good news is right now it doesn't seem like there's ones that are going to be as as contagious as Delta has been. But that might be new information. Again, is it man made? Was

this made? Or I don't think so. I think the vast majority of these pathogens jumped from animals to humans. That's that's what we've seen, you know, seventy eighty percent of the time. I mean, when you see something kind of escape from a laboratory and the disease is named after the laboratory had escape from, I mean, it's kind of hardy named after them. What do you mean, virology. I did a whole documentary about this, and I think

again we should ask questions about this. It is very suspicious that the very place where this virus originated is also the home of a big institute of virology. I don't I don't think that changes the fact that most most of these viruses typically jump from animals to humans. The question has been had they already found this virus and they were studying it in the lab and then it escaped leaked from the lab as you as you say, I think that's still something that people think is a possibility.

The real concern here is that we really don't have any vision on what really happened in China. The World Health Organization went into China, they did this study, and they weren't even allowed inside the lab. There was a database of these coronaviruses that was taken down in September of twenty nineteen, just a couple months before, you know, we really started to hear about this coronavirus. Where did that database go? Why have we never seen it? Were

their lab workers who got sick? Have we been able to investigate what happened to them? And the answer to all those questions is no. And I think that it's kind of like dealing with my teenage kids. They're not telling me the truth on something. Does that mean they're guilty of everything? I don't know. I mean, I think they're hiding something, but I don't know that I'm ready

to say that they're guilty of everything. But I think it's important because if we're serious about preventing this from happening again, which I think we can do, by the way, that's the most inspiring thing I learned over the last two years is that what happened over the last two years does not need to happen again. We have it within our capabilities to essentially make our world pandemic proof, and we need to do that. We're growing our population,

we're increasingly living with these pathogens. We're encroaching on their habitat these viruses, and they've been here longer than us. And as our population expands and we get into their their their habitat, they're gonna these jumps from animals to humans are going to happen more and more. But that doesn't mean it has to turn into a devastating pandemic like we just saw. All right, we have well with doctor Sanjay Gupta. When we come back, it's to Breakfast Club,

Gomoni moning. Everybody's dj Envy Angela Yee Schalomne, the guy we ought to Breakfast Club is still kicking it with doctor Sanjay Gupta. Chalomi. What would y'all do differently next time? I remember President Omama saying that we weren't ready for a pandemic if it was to happen. Well, you know, but at the same time, Charlomagne, the United States was ranked number one in the world in terms of preparedness

against pandemics. And despite that we're four percent of the world's population, we had twenty five percent of the world's cases. So we blew it in this regard. There's lots of things that we could do different. But the one thing that I would say that I came to the conclusion of is that I think we almost have to treat this more like we treat Department of Defense, rather than we treat weather like I think when we think about viruses, we think, oh, this is like a hurricane. Nothing you

can do about it. Just shelter in place, let the hurricane pass, and then survey the damage afterward. It doesn't have to be that way. With defense. We basically say, Okay, we're spending a ton of money on defense every year for potential threats, and those threats may never come, and people will say, well, you wasted a lot of money. Well, no, we didn't waste money because we had the peace of mind that we're constantly looking for these threats. I think

we have to treat potential pandemics the same way. What does that do? It makes us very proactive. We're finding those jumps as soon as they happen. We're working on universal vaccines, we're funding all the laboratory work. But also we don't have to litigate every decision afterwards. Should kids get the vaccine, should we wear masks? These things just go into place automatically because they're now part of how we do things as a country. Do you think masks

are here to stay. I don't think they're here to say, but I think they may come and go. Like we see in other countries around the world, other countries when you go into a respiratory virus season where there's a lot of you know, viruses transmitting, especially in the winter months, people are more likely to wear masks. And if we did that, it would help with this particular pandemic, but it also helped with things like flu. This gets back to the same thing about the compassion, like what are

we willing to tolerate? I think that's what this is going to come down to. Sixty thousand people die of flu every year. We don't have to have sixty thousand people die of flu. Yeah, we don't have to have all the people dives. You know, cigarettes were not to have all the people die of poverty. We don't have to have all the people die at least brutality like America's like, that's a tough question to ask America. What are we willing to tolerate? Clearly a lot it's a

sad I don't I'm an optimistic guy. I'm black. Maybe I would love to have that optimism. I listen to sounds of blackness of optimism. Here does that get better? Charloman, I don't know it was until like over the past, you know, four or five years. I really think disinformation is going to really like be the death of us in a lot of ways. I really think social media is is that dangerous because of situations like this, Because when there are matters of life or death like this

pandemic was, what is the objective? Like? Is it just to create chaos? Is it just to so doubt? Like if I go on, if I go online and I say a new car, I'm searching for a new car, and I get a bunch of forward ads. I kind of get that they're trying to sell me a forward, But why do people what's the purpose of just creating chaos? Let me ask you. People are contrarians and they like to be contrary to things, and they don't trust government.

And what about people who aren't what about political pundits on CNN? And you got a lot of backlash because you know, you admitted that CNN was wrong for labeling a horse to warmer. Well, look again, this is one of those nuanced sort of things. And I think the situation there just and I think a lot of people know this, is that there was this belief that iver

mechtin was a medication that could treat COVID. There was no evidence to support that, but all of a sudden, there were a lot of people out there wanting ivermectin. Their doctors were not prescribing it for them because it was not approved or authorized for that. So what did people do? They went and received the veterinary formulations of this. So that's why it got labeled to horste Warmer. That

wasn't made up out of whole cloth. Why do you say they were wrong, because there's another form of what I didn't say. They were wrong. What I said so I was talking to Joe Rogan. In Joe's case, he got the prescription from a doctor, so he wasn't taking the veterinary form of the medication. The human form of the medication is a well known medication and it's very good at treating parasites. But just like we saw with hydroxy chloroquine early on, there was no evidence that hydroxychloroquine work.

It took time to prove that, and seeing the same thing with ivermectin, how close are we defining like a cure or maybe some type of treatment you can take once you do get cold, because I've heard there's several things on the market that they've been testing that look promising. Yeah, I mean just even just a couple hours ago, Fiser just announced another a potential therapeutic, something that you would take if you got COVID to reduce the likelihood that

you would get sick. So this is different than a vaccine, again, which is still preferable because I do believe that it's best not to get the virus in the infection in the first place. But there's two things now out there. Fiser just announced this today and Murk has something as well. It's available for people. Merciless Merk's already out. The Fiser one has the data just came out today. There they're going to be a FDA's reviewing it, they say maybe by the end of the year. So pill, what is

the pill? It's called Malno pure Viewer. It's a it's an anti viral. I mean, you know, we would think about antibiotics a lot, and that's for bacterial infections. There aren't as many anti virals for viral infections. With all the money that we spend in all his research, whether it's HIV and AIDS, or it's cancer or somebody the other diseases and viruses that we don't have cures from it, that doesn't seem strange. It seems like we have the

smartest scientists, we have the best technology. I hear you, but you know, I gotta just just as somebody who is a doctor myself. People that'll be like, the reason they are is there really is one, but the money's in the treatment. But I look at it differently because like HIV AIDS, we've been trying to get a vaccine for forty years. I mean the fastest of the vaccines's ever been developed is four years. So the fact that they got a vaccine as quickly as they did, some

people say, well, they rushed it. That's obviously a bad vaccine. Other people will say, well, man, that was our moonshot. We didn't think you know, it could happen. Look you know, But I mean stuff like that does make people skeptical. Does it make you skeptical or does it make it something we're celebrating too? Can't we celebrate the recodism answers to science? So it should be faster. I agree, So trump in Operation wolf Speed should get a lot of credit.

They should, they should, and we and you know, look, I did a whole documentary. I think the the developers of these mRNA vaccines may receive a Nobel Prize for this. You know, some of these scientists have been working on this for decades. People say, well, this was rushed. Well, actually, the technology behind messenger RNA m RNA vaccines, it's been worked on for a long time. So how much credit to Trumpet? I think he should get a lot of credit. He got a lot of flak. Well, I think it

was flack. I think a little bit came from the fact that why didn't he embrace the vaccine? It was he tried to remember he tried, he tried to name it after himself. Remember did he do that? I really hell yeah, But he didn't take I mean he didn't, he didn't publicly take it. I should say he eventually took the vaccine. I don't know. Again, thought he was trying to take all the credit. I wasn't missed that because I thought he was part of it. I think, if you've done this, he's trying to get it out

before he election. You said that early in interview. I yeah, no, no, that that's the thing. There was all these sort of conflicting messages. You know, we did it, we at it, and it was great. Now let's get it out there. But then it became like everything else so politicized. Every name. One thing that did not get politicized, masks, vaccines, these therapeutics you're talking about DJ they'll get politicized. They already are. Hey, why would you take that instead of the vaccine, ivermectin.

Everything gets I can't think of one thing that did not get politicized in this entire pandemic, and it's heartbreaking in a way. I agree. How would you tell people to handle this holiday season? I don't know. If you're gonna like it, don't tell us. I think the vaccine. There are people who are going to be getting together with their loved ones, which I think is fantastic. I'm looking forward to this myself with my kids and my parents.

They're going to be indoors because the weather's cooler around most of the country. They're going to be snuggling in close. It's the holidays, you know, and watching movies together on the couch. Whatever you do and the idea that you can feel the most comfortable that someone around you is not potentially going to transmit the virus to somebody who's vulnerable. I think is really important, and I think the vaccine

is our best bet at doing that. This week, five to eleven year olds can start getting it now, So seven weeks from now start that's right. Yeah, no, that's exactly right. So now and then three weeks is the next shot, and then you'd be considered you'd be considered vaccinated two weeks after that, so potentially five weeks from now you could be considered vaccinated. Well, doctor the Sun Jake that we appreciate you. That was a great conversation. I know you gotta run, but thank you so much.

What a pleasure. Thanks for having me. It's the Breakfast Club, Good Mornings. This is the rule of report with Angela. Well. Congratulations to Nori and DJ e F and Drink Champs. The episode of Kanye West made history for revolt. So according to the Chief brand Officer of Combs Enterprises, Dion Graham, we're both long term partnership with Drink Champs is a perfect example that we are more powerful together when we use our platforms to control our narrative and give the

voices shaping our culture the freedom to create unapologetically. And Nori said, yeah, they say an interview of the year. Yea, they also calling me, calling me Nori yaga the y'alla getting to the YadA y'alla. To many views to count I'm gonna stay home and drink guarda praise God dropping for drink Champs three million views and counting. Love it Yeah, number one on the Apple Music Podcast Charts. Two men, go check that out on the Black Effect I Heart

Radio podcast network. All right, now, some responses to that interview have been coming in all weekend, So let's start with Soldier Boy responding. Now. As you recall, so, Dubois was not happy to be left off of Kanye's Donda album, and when he was on with Academics, he had him read some of the messages that Kanye sent to him. Draco returned it finished a five thirty the next day. Okay, like, listen twenty four hours, this is ya gassing and now yo, Kanye pushed so much aid and zas and ease. I

feel you feel you know what somebody gas you. Well, it was a different story when Kanye was on Drink Champs. Here's what he said about leaving Soldier Boy off. The album with Soldier Boy is top five most influential. It's like, take them off your album. You didn't hear that verse? Nope, he was apparently man the verse Noah, But I'll tell you what though, Soldier Boy is the future though. That's why you have to send Kanye healing energy. Kanye is

a true Gemini. Kanye will say that you know, behind the scenes the Soldier Boy, but then publicly say something else. All right, well, Soldier Boy has responded to what Kanye said on Drink Champs and Soldier Boy fashion that was cy, you've nothing a baby with a mother. Soldier Boy is the future. Shut the come can you talk? And you said my first wasn't hard, dude, Everything to come out my mother and mouth is hard. What did you talking about? West?

Yo album was trash just because it's your album? Know me, you get the pick with them. It's hard and what put it out and let the people decide what the it's hard? He say, who cuts your hair? Man? Forget that? I know you isolated that for me, Dan, you know what I need From that point we know what you need, all right was a wild in addition to see that big sean um. Well, there's a lot of responses. Hey,

let's talk about jfs Blade first. Now, Kanye was on Drink Champs and he called Jess Blade is a copycat Swiss Beat or Jess Blades or Swiss Beast definitely because Jess Blade is a copycat. You know, he gets credit for the blueprint and I did the first half of the blueprint and he just copied my half and got I mean, look look where I'm out today, Look where he had today. Jessinst egregious thing he said in that whole that's hate like Jess Blade sounds like nobody, not

at all. Well, if you recall just Blaze did respond on social media. He said he was addressing a public publicly because it was stated publicly. And he goes on to say that Kanye did reach out to collaborate on various projects, including a collaborative project that he was looking for me to handle a good amount of you know who else responded Jay Z he was doing a live Twitter chat to discuss the Herder they Fall, and here's

what he had to say on that chat. The Jus Blaze thing was a bit unfair because if you're making an album and the assignment and soul samples, everyone's coming with soul, You're trying to make a cohesive piece of music. I don't think anyone was copping off any you know, bank has this problem, and you know the baby was the blueprint, and I think everyone should be prized for what we created. My guy Kas asked that question to

drop on a clues box from My Man Cast. In addition to a Beanie seagull is saying that Kanye promised him some money. Now, when Kanye was on Drink TAMPT, he did say he owes Beanie Seagull money. I still owe need money and I've been trying to give him this money for a minute. He's gonna get the money. He gonna get the money. Henna, Yeah, because really, how do you own money? Though? I don't want to because

he made up the name easy. Well, here's what Beanie Seagull had to say about that millions to one point some a buildings check for wow, So cut the check. I don't want a million dollars and five percent stock and yeasy, I don't want to hear the lip service from Kanye I want to hear him actually cut the check. Cut the check for Beanie because you know now it was public. Now like that can be using the call the law right he said he owes the money. He

didn't say that. I'm not that I'm talking I'm talking about the amount, but the fact that he did say Beanie Seagull created this name, so that that could be using to call the law paper. Run that man his money. But it just doesn't say what amount he'll he'll give him. That's the only thing, all right, Well, that is your rumor reports. Can I hear the soldier boy thing one time? Though?

Everything come out the mouth is hard? So you care about man drop when the clues bobs with Soldier boy Man Soldier, it's so damn entertaining, so you can't care about this. By the way, the podcast is now a six million in counting for a revolt. That's huge. No, you'd be listening. I don't know how he does it heart radio app head for I'm just saying he's always listening. I don't know how he's up running the morning, does his job in the morning. He got her. We're gonna

do the marathon together. Man. The marathon was in New York City this weekend. We got to start training now, all right, who are giving that? Don't? Man? You know, we hear stories about police officers torturing people in jail cells, but this, this is by far, this is one of the worst I've ever heard. Man. We'll talk about it for after the hour. The Oklahoma office is from the Oklahoma County Jail. Need to come to the front of the congregation. We like that have the world with them,

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us for Donkey of the Day. I'm a Democrat, so being Dunky of the Day a little bit of a mixed club like an Now, I've been called a lot of my twenty three years, but Donkey of the Day is a new wife. Yeah, Donkey today for Monday, November eighth, goes to officers at the Oklahoma County Jail. The officers names a sheriff, Tommy Daunching. The third who else is named in this lawsuit the Border County Commissioners, the Jail Trust,

and two former jail officers. Now they are being sued because they're being accused of failing to adequately train and supervise its officers. Now, these officers have a history of mistreatment well known to supervisors, but no actions were taken to stop them. Now, inmates to jail in Oklahoma said they were subjected to cruel and inhumane punishment of federal civil rights lawsuit alleged successive force describing the discipline tactics

is torture events. Oh, it's just hard to even talk about. Look, it's no secret we've seen people, especially black people and brown people, people of color, torture in these jail cells. I think it would happen to Jamal Sutherland and to Charleston County Jail. I think about Daggett County Jails and Utah some years ago and how the Utah Department of Correction settled lawsuits with former prisoners because one of the

former guards, Joshua Cox. According to lawsuits required prisoners to submit to being shocked and bitten by attack dogs in order to keep their jobs working out the prison fences. Sometimes they would abuse inmates if they simply wanted to return to their cells. Cots would taunt the prisoners, calling them the B word and the P word. They would wrestle with them and choked them out. Just in humane conditions all across the board, and the same thing it's

happening at the Oklahoma County Jail. In fact, what these inmates at the Oklahoma County Jail had to endure, no human should have to endure. If you're easily triggered, take a deep breath. Don't let the traumedies inmates experience sit in your body too long. Another deep breath through the nose and hail out the mouth, and let's go to k f O r NBC four for the report. Police raf were inmates to file a federal lawsuits saying they were forced to listen to baby Shark at the Oklahoma

County Jail. You know the song Do Do Do? Civil rights liars filed the lawsuit this week against the Oclaoma County Commissioners. Sheriff Tommy John said the jail trust and two former jailers Attorneys described the supplint tactics as torture. A criminal investigation last year determined four inmates were subjected to the Baby Shark song in an attorney visitation room

in November and December. These officers forced inmates forston inmate in particular, name Joseph Mitchell, into a standing scress position for three to four hours while handcuffed behind his back, and then played Baby Shark on loop, made him listen to the song over and over a while physically rescreened in the attorney visitation room. These people are evil. Man. Cruel is not a strong enough word to describe what these folks have done. I realized this morning that I

have PTSD because of Baby Sharks. He Baby Shark torture his parents. When we willingly let our kids listen to it, at some point you have to turn it off. Do you know how much I heard my second oldest who's now six, leaning into that damn machine? What's that machine? And you said, you said, Google, what's that thing called? The Google played that's what it's called Alexa. So I wasn't Alexa. They wasn't. I don't know that you just

leaned into it and say Google play baby shock. Okay, like oh and that and me being prepared to listen to it. You know, I already knew it was gonna be scressful, So imagine being forced. There's nothing more terrifying than hearing this is apparent listen play it play. Oh stop stop, stop stop stop. Let's just listening to that, dude, didn't you just knew it was about to be coming and listening to it over and over and over again, red let it, let it ride one time for the

one time. Oh baby checked it, din baby checked it? Her baby shock this one time? Slap that first you start shoot stop shop he shot, shot, shot, shark all right, now getting I ain't getting more smaller shot. Imagine being a house for six. We have a house of six now shot all right, everybody got to get a mama show show a right, older daughter show, Seon Mottershoft, third daughter show. Now you got family? All right? He's then stopping, no, stop and stop it, no more hope. How long it

has been ready, how long has it been? How long has it been? It hasn't even been a minute thirty seconds all we imagine three to four hours of this over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Che oh my god, all right, this is not cruel and unusual punishment. Please give these officers at the Oklahoma County Jail the biggest he huh oh man Christ three to four hours. They did that in a clockwork iarns. Did you see that movie? That was kind of the rehab they did to him in

a clockwork arms. Listen to baby shop they made listening to Beethoven over and over and over again, so whenever he was um and well, you got to see it. Yeah, he ended up that and let it go the kids, let it go? Not no more? Oh my gosh, but let it go. Ain't one of them songs that you're gonna play over and over if our kids play it over and over and over. They got the little letter go karaoke pocketbook thing where they sing into it. Oh my gosh. I might have threw that out the window

one day. Oh my god, let it go. Can't holding back anymore? Let it You don't sing that, dude, just doesn't sound right when you sing it. I do sing it. I have no choice. I know about heart, all right, Jesus, all right, where you wanna go from here. I have no idea. Whatever you do, just let it go. What okay? Everything coming out with my mother? Your mouth is hard? All right, that's the greatest line of ball. All right, Well, let's Monday. Let's land to the breakfast club. I hate

you guys. Anything that comes out of my mouth is hard. Let it go. Eight hundred five five one on five one. Let's land to the breakfast club. All right, we haven't done this in a while. Open up the phone, huns right, something that you don't like about me? Ye, or Charlemagne? Eight hundred five eight five one on five. Why. The one hour loop of baby Shark on YouTube has been viewed over one hundred and twenty seven million times. Y'all just trying to keep your kids occupied. Put the kids

in a little play pains me a little thirty minute? Now, just give me about thirty I've been there before, all right. Sland to the breakfast Club is next? Eight hundred five eight five one on five. One is the breakfast club? Good morning, the breakfast club, the breakfast club, humble slaming the breakfast class her dark? Hello? What's this? What's good? Breakfast club? My name is James I'm a mining Napolis.

James talked to us. I gotta slant of y'all. Man, you and them Charlemagne the bed brother, Why are you slaying us? What grown man gives another grown man the more of? They asked for a president that's so old, bro, I don't get it. And then you're playing with him. Y'all got to come out that clothing. Man. I think you, I think you. I think you just upset because everything that comes out of my mouth is hard. That's what I think you upset about. You didn't do your job.

Na brother, Nah brother, Nah brother, nah brother, don't let it out your mouth. Hello, who's this hard? Uncle Willie? Uncle Willy? What up? God? Brother? Slant the breakfast club? Go on, good morning, Good morning from the seven five seven, Virginia, VA. What's happening? What's going on? Yes, sir, nobody knows you are here. What are you talking of the real? What

are you talking about? I know, I know. I'm trying to get myself known out in Hampton, Virginia, where I went to school for four and a half years, five years. I'm trying. Hello, who's this good morning? Slam at the breakfast club? Okay, Okay, So I want to talk about her ugly, how I don't like silent? I like, I want to say happy birthday, you like all love what's her name? What's her name? What's her name? Saniel? Happy

born Daysonaya Samis. I'm sitting there like, I know this grown woman ain't calling up here with these whack ass third grade and so you ugly and you sanky. She's like, no, but I do gotta give a bathday shot. And then you forgot to say her name? No, I okay, Gay, you got it? Thank you, Mama. Hello, who's this yo? So? What's up? Man? I got slam at the breakfast club? Y'all want to slim the ends of the years? For that rumor for Kanye was that sound bite? Man? There

was no positive SoundBite to that rumor report. And I was very inspired by that interview. I was kind of confused, you always played negative conbite. Well, we just played the responses from the celebrities and people that he was talking about. But he did say those things in the interview, correct, Yeah, But he also talks about stock ownership, I owning braids, like you know what I'm trying to say? Like I felt like y'all, y'all singles on the ebity gossip. You

got a point. I mean, it is about guys. He's not wrong, though, but that's just the way the news is. Like you know, they all used to say back in the day, if it bleeds, it leads, and like you know, even with even with social media, the algorithms that you know, move the most or the negative one sadly, but I don't He's not wrong. You're not wrong. I got you. When I saw that interview, I was super inspired. But I feel y'all know what y'all saying. It's about the

number of time. But the be but the bean the Beanie part wasn't wasn't um negative, Like you know, the fact that Beanie Seagull created the word jeezy and that he old Beanie some money. I don't think that was negative. That was definitely positive. I was definitely positive, But majority was negative though the John legend, the big Sean so about the celebrity guy for mainly, but the big Beanie

one was definitely was definitely all good. But also too Kanye knows that if you get in the interview and you give a lot of those sound bites where you getting that Ti Leave quality. You're getting that Big Sean, You're getting that John legend. Whoever you getting that, that's gonna that's gonna eclipse all the positive stuff you may

have said. We'll have a going man. Slander the Breakfast Club eight hundred five eight five one or five one slander the breakfast club caller, Snap, it's the breakfast clung goal morning the breakfast club humble was slanting the Breakfast Club down her dark? Hello? Who's this man? You need to give out the sources? Struggling man, do some this tattoo they tell us to do, you know, hold extras that want used? Podcast? Man? But if this ain't working, no know what I mean? I don't know what you well?

You mean? Why why do you think it's a secret. Just go to the paint stall, get you some black paint and a brush and dip it in the can and just slap it all over your face. Why do you lie to that? Man? Hello? Who's this? Hi? This is Cadia calling from Detroit. What's first? What I'm dope? Breakfast Club? I gotta go for Charlotte. Man, Charlotte, I love you, you know, like you have a gentle place

in my heart. Because you're just as real estate. Come, but I need you to get your eyebrowts together, sir. Everybody wax. Everybody says I got amazing. Trust they real day day day probably, so it's flaky. So just come to Detroit and we're gonna get you to you'm micro blading. He did micro blade them before. I've never done that. What am I? What am I supposed to do with him? Though? I mean like like I got thick, I got thick eyebrows, so I love a thick eyebrows. Pasages just too much,

it's too much. I'm not touching. You got your eyebrows done before. Bro, I'm not touching. I've never I've no, I have not got them done in my adult life. Together, It's okay, we love you. Yeah. When I when I was a kid, some women gasped me up to get my eyebrows arts because it was like Tupac got his eyebrows arch and so I got myney Yeah, let up in the mound and they did them thin too, like I had to thin. Look at looking crazy as hell?

I don't. You're definitely at the eyebrows. Hello, who's this? Hi? This westpter Her, Hey, good morning, slander the breakfast club. I want to plan that. Arewe not really slanned to her? But I just wanted to let her know, like, um, I I'm comfort what we're talking about sex, and I would love to come on her show because there's so much more in rest of sub sex that she can talk about on her show. What do you want to

talk about the LGBTQ community, the lifestyle community. I even DMed you like some of the videos that I've done on another show to tell you that I would love to come on and give you my perspective about the whole lifestyle community and whatnot. Okay, that's the plan. You know, we welcome everybody on the show to talk about whatever when it comes to sex. Okay, I'm very excited. I would love to come on. I think I would be a great I just said the personality and everything and

just to enlighten people about a lot more. Anyway, Okay, hold on, Okay, let's get your number. Hello. Who's this? This is Camille? Missus Cookovids damn missus Keka. Why are you upset? I am upset because Sean Mary, they messed up my whole thought. This morning. I woke up listening to Erica Badu and here he got one to play, Baby Shark, listen to that? And though I know, but I was trying to prove a point because these officers in Oklahoma were torturing the inmates by playing that song

over and over. That's all he said. You want to hear it again? You ain't have to play in sorrow. You did not have to play. You want to hear it again? Hey, what boy do record? Week? What boy do record? Did you listen to this morning? I can tell you the one I do. I used to set my attention, But what's yours? I listened to? Didn't you know? Every morning? I love that too? You know what else I love? I love the Healer off the New America. Okay, baby, now you better go now if I let that baby

shot rip, let it rip red, go play. Oh my god, you do the mo slammed to the Breakfast Club eight hundred five eighty five one five four. Now we got rumors on the way, Yes, and let's talk a daytime TV who was taking over this week for Wendy Williams and Wenna talk about somebody else who has a show in the works allegedly. All right, we'll get into that. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, it's about this is the rumor report. Angela Gees on the Breakfast Club. All right, Well,

Wendy Williams is still on hiatus. According to a statement, it is because of her Graves disease in her thyroid condition, and so she does need some more time before she can return. In the meantime, Michael Rappaport is going to be serving as a guest host for part of the week this week, and then Bill Bellamy will be taking over. So I saw some people were going in and saying they want Sherry Shepherd back and they really enjoyed her. So I saw people on Instagram, we want Sherry hosting

until Wendy's return. Bring back Sherry, We want Sherry, Wendy. Producers do better, so on and so forth. But again, Michael Rappaport starts today. Cherry's always good dude. Sharry hosted it before I think the first time when she went on hiatus. Y Rys dope. So people love seeing her on there. Who knows that daytime experience from the viewer.

And Jennifer Hudson is in talks to get a syndicated daytime talk show and they're saying this could premiere in the fall of twenty twenty two, so that could be exciting. And the Ellen Degenerous show is rapping at the end of its current season and we're looking for new things, So potentially Jennifer Hudson could be coming into the mix and seeing her syndicated. All right, And speaking of TV, master P has a series coming that's going to be showcasing his life that is in the works right now.

According to the release, the story of master P is not the typical rack to riches rapper story. Percy Robert Miller was not a dealer or an addict or a gangbanger. What Percy learned from the streets was the hustle, making him an uber savvy entrepreneur with an empire worth eight

hundred million dollars. This series follows Percy as he pursues a pro basketball career to escape the hood, to blowing out his knee and reinventing himself, founding No Limit, and becoming Master P, one of the biggest hip hop artists of all time. So I think that's an interesting show to watch. MASTERP a series on his life. I'm here for it, all right. And Will Smith is detailing the biggest regret that he had while raising his son, Jaden.

You know, his book is coming out tomorrow, and so he talks about his film After Earth, so it details his co starring experience with Jaden Smith. Jaden was only fifteen years old. He had also started the remake of Karate Kid, which was a success and the pursuit of happiness. But the budget for After Earth was one hundred and

thirty million dollars. The film only made twenty seven million dollars during the opening weekend, and according to will Smith, the critiques of fans and the press was vicious and there was a public malling of his son and his book. He wrote, After Earth was an abysmal box office and critical failure. And what was worse was that Jaden took the hit. Fans and the press were absolutely vicious. They said and printed things about Jaden that I refused to repeat.

Jaden had faithfully done everything that I'd instructed him to do, and I had coached him into the worst public malling he'd ever experienced. Then he found out that his son wanted to be emancipated. At fifteen, Jaden had felt betrayed. He lost trust and his dad. He said that the pain, he said, we never discussed it, but I know he felt betrayed, he felt misled, He lost his trust in my leadership. At fifteen years old, when Jaden asked about

being an emancipated mind, and my heart shattered. He ultimately decided against it. But it sucks to feel like you've hurt your kids. Number One, I can't wait to read Will's book. I'm actually pausing on reading anything until that book comes. I ordered it last week. It should be here today. But secondly, I wonder how Jaden feels about that now, because failure is just a part of life. I know what I mean. I don't even remember that more. I remember after. But I'm just saying, like, like, failure

is just a part of life. You're going to throw some things against the wall sometimes and they knock on stick. So I wonder if now that he's older, as he understand that. I'm sure he understands that now. But at that age fifteen and then everything else had been successful. You're not used to that, you know, so I'm sure it wasn't easy. All right, Now, let's talk about Lakeith Stanfield.

He said he has anxiety stemming from the harder they fallen from filming that he posted on Instagram that he had crippling anxiety and drank every night after work while filming for that, and so he had spoken in the past about having difficulties with his roles and dealing with anxiety. So have y'all seen the Heart of Their Fall yet? It's really really good. I watched it twice already, watch this week too. I'm not gonna lie. It's an amazing movie.

So I highly suggest everybody watch that. I'm sending Laki Stanfield healing energy too. He hope. Well. I saw him say he's talking to a therapist. So all right, now, Howard University dean and former actress Felicia Rashade people were

upset about this video that had surface. Now they're interviewing both Felicia Rashad, who is the dean of the College of Fine Arts, and her sister, Debbie Allen, and they're Debbie Allen, by the way, is a former Howard graduate, and they're talking about the students basically protesting because they want better housing, clean a cleaner environment. And here is what was said. We know what the Howard student body means in any country, when the students don't speak out

for the nation is not doing well. When when of the students do speak out and the concerns have been addressed and it's still amount enough, what about that? Oh well, that's a whole love thing. What school in right now? So are there is being addressed? Okay, let's come inside. If you lost questions, why will you be telling them now? She said, the concerns were addressed. Yes, she's saying that is what happened. That's a Felicia Rashad said, And then

she tells the reporter. When the reporter asked, so the concerns of being addressed, she said, I wouldn't get into that if I were you. So people were upset and they said that it was disappointing that she's not on the side of the kids being able to express themselves

and get some answers. And why there's mold, why there's rodents scurrying around about the leakages and conditions in the dorms, I'm initial understanding because they were they were former students, so they wouldn't have want to live in those conditions. And she's the dean there. You know, you got to represent for the students too. They're the ones everybody works for, right, They're the ones paying the tuition. All right, well that is your rumor report. All right. We invited him or

the president of Howard up. I haven't heard anything back, but I'd love to have him and the students up here to talk about it. Hopefully we can get too kind of resolution. Has he spoken to the students yet? I don't think so. I don't think so. I know when when Hampton was going through that, you know, the president at the time, I spoke to him and we tried to get the students in between, and they got things right. So all right, well shout to a vote.

We'll see tomorrow. Everybody else to people's choice mixes up. Next, let's go the breakfast club. Your morning's will never be the same. What a Brother Pictures presents King Richard, based on a true story that will inspire the world. Watch Will Smith's portrayal of Richie Williams, father of two of the greatest sports legends, Venus Serena and a Plan for Greatness in theaters and on HBO Max King Richard, November nineteenth, rated, pg. Thirteen.

Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us this morning. We have Jody Lewis and attorney Darryl K. Washington. Good Morning More. Now, this case in particular was horrifying to hear as a woman, I would love for you to just break down what happened with me and Marcano. We discussed this on the Breakfast Club, and now we want to get some of the particulars from you as

working for the family, as the publicist, and as the attorney. Well, I can tell you this has probably been one of the most horrifying stories in cases that I've had to deal with. To receive a telephone call from the family, especially the mother and father telling me that they're searching for their daughter and not getting any type of feedback from the law enforcement officials. You know, when you look at this case, this is just what you call the

perfect storm. The family had all the information that would have given the law enforcement of the agencies the information needed in order to arrest the suspect, but they were just totally ignored. Just to see the mother and father come face to face with the suspect, the person who took their daughter's life. Was probably one of the most hardest, one of the hardest things I've ever had to experience.

But the one thing that really sticks out with me is the sheriff deputy told the witnesses when they were explaining to him who who was to suspect in this case. Eight the sheriff deputy said that this case was not a high priority and as you know, every second matters with this case. With these type of cases, Mia was found seven to eight days later, and the question still remains, when was Mia killed, how was she killed, and when was she actually killed. So we're still trying to get

answers to these questions. We have not gotten the cause of death, we have not gotten the time of death. They're still trying to get this to the family. So as you can imagine, the family is still dealing with the trauma of all of this. So she lived in this apartment complex right just to start from the beginning, and she worked in the apartment complex as well, she did, right, yes, and this is how she met this guy. So, as you know, being a co employee with someone, everybody changed

phone numbers just to be friendly with each other. But this guy was sort of obsessed with Mia. I mean, he started with the long text messages telling her how he wanted to date her, offering her money, and these were things that she just totally rejected. She had no interest in this guy at all. She told her friends, she told her families as well as her employer. But but sadly, the employer did not do anything to protect me in this type of situation. And he also had

access to her apartment. Correct, That's correct, And that is the thing that should have never happened. When you just do a general search as this guy background, you see so many hits that come up. This guy had full possession of the master keep off that allowed him unfeathered access not only in Miya's apartment, but all the tenants apartments.

And to tell you a little bit about the art and villas, this apartment complex is about five minutes away from the University of Central Florida, So the majority of the tenants at that apartment complex or college students, so it was it becomes the perfect background for a predator like Amando who took MIA's life. Yeah, I mean, honestly, this was just horrifying for us to hear. And I saw that me as roommate also spoke out and had

her own account of what the relationship was. Yes, me as a roommate, and I tell you she really gave the family an idea of exactly what happened. If you look at the press release that was released by the Orange County sheriffs Office as well as the press confidence that Sheriff Mina gave, he clearly came out in defense

of his sheriff's deputy. He stated on the number of occasions that the sheriff's deputy didn't see anything at that apartment that would allayed him to believe that that was apartment was a crime scene, and that totally conflict that what the witnesses gave the sheriff deputy on the morning that they were talking to him. Number One, the first thing that should have been a sign that there was a major problem. There was a dresser that was a propped against the door that did not allow anyone to

enter into a miss room. That alone should have told the sheriff's deputy, coupled with the complaints that he was getting from the family, that we need to get people out here immediately to investigate what it's gone on. This sheriff's deputy was very cavalier with the entire situation. He didn't dust the windows for fingerprints, he didn't collect any evidence. There was a security guard that was out there that told the sheriff deputy that listen, you need to dust

this window to see if there are fingerprints. He didn't do this. But here Angelus one of the worst situations that could have possibly happened. I remember, this guy had the key fa to getting MIA's apartments. All the all the manager had to do was come to the apartment complex when she was contacted, used the technology that they had from this key fall, and they could have told

the shaff's deputy immediately who went into this apartment. This manager failed to come out to the apartment to assist with the search for Mia, and sadly, today no one from that apartment complex have reached out to the family to offer their condolences. So it just shows you that we're dealing with an apartment complex that places profits over safety. Now, when we talk about Armando Caballero, right, he's the man who killed Mia and then killed himself. So he did

have a background record. He did not only did he have a criminal background, record, but he had a history at other apartment complexes. We've received so many telephone calls about this this guy. The last apartment that he was working at prior to going to the Art and Villas, this guy had actually taken await and thrown into the door of a young lady's apartment trying to get in He's actually he was actually in someone's apartment when the lady got out of the shower and he was there

and they all complained about this guy and management. Instead of management do something about it, the management blame the tenants. This guy would then disappear from that apartment complex and end up at the Art and Villas. So that alone tells us that there was no type of reference check conducted on this guy. It was not an extensive background

check as they claimed was conducted. And the sad thing about this is this is a debt that was totally preventable and to see a family have to deal with the loss of a nineteen year old daughter, this is just something that they would never ever be able to get out of their heads since the guy's committed suicide. What does justice look like for this fan? Justice for this family is holding this apartment complex responsible. Is holding the police responsible not just for them, but for they're

so concerned about everybody else. You know, one of the reasons that they wanted to start the foundation and even talking with lawmakers about changing the laws is there's no quote unquote justice for them because they lost who they is, their baby, their princess. But they are fighting now to

make sure that this doesn't happen to other families. And you know, days, you know, after this, you know, they found their daughter unfortunately deceased, they were already talking about how can we stop this from happening to anyone else? And they already acknowledge that because they're so well connected. They kept saying, like, you know, Jody, Gosh, what do the families that do not have the connections that we

have actually go through. If we didn't have access to media, friends, we didn't have access to retired police officers to help guidance, if we didn't have access to Attorney Washington to spend others what those families do in this situation. So this family, right now, justice is going to be about changing laws, holding people accountable, ensuring that their daughter's name is never forgotten, working on what we deemed me as law in the state of Florida, and so that's that's kind of what

justice is going to look like for this family right now. Well, thank you so much for joining us. We want to make sure that we, you know, also publicize this story as much as possible so it doesn't go under the radar, and we keep our foot on their next too, to make sure that there is some type of accountability to the fullest. Yeah, I can just say this and not apologize. Man, this is such a serious problem that we have in

our community. So many young girls are missing today and they don't get the same attention that a lot of these cases get. So we can imagine where a lot of families are gone to so gone through it. So I really appreciate you guys taking the time out of you know, your day to to highlight this this case. Thank you, Jody and Jody. Please keep me updated all right, Well, thank you Attorney Daryl Washington and Jody Lewis. Now, Charloman, you got a positive note, Yes, I got a positive

note today. But first I want to tell y'all to make sure to go listen to the Gods Honest Truth podcast. Okay, the new episode went up today called Nothing Season. If you missed the episode Friday with Shannon bou Dram and Michael Eric Dyson, then you can listen to the podcast today on The Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network, available everywhere you listen to podcasts, and you can go scream It on Paramount Plus until our new episode drops this Friday

at ten pm on Comedy Central. Look okay, now, the positive notice, this real growth is when you start checking and correcting yourself instead of blaming others. You take your power back by being responsible for your life. Breakfast Club, finish for y'all. Done,

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