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Get your ass. So this is your time to get it off your chests, whether you're man or bless so, so you better have the same duty. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello this hey, Breakfast Club friends out. We don't hire up. What's same, king, get it off your chests? Man, Hey, good to hear from you. Gotten man, really nice out, really got through. I just want to say thank you to dj MM and the Laga. You guys always talk about a real estate.

I just bought my first house yaastic, and I'm here and I got my three months old baby. But your name's congratulations that I was looking at houses this morning when Envy came in. That's good. It's really good to be on your back to back new born baby and the new house, toast to you into your family. That's amazing. What those interest rates look like. What those interest rates look like though? Two and a half man, that's great, that's beautiful exactly. So you put down one three and

a half percent. I gotta also welcome home grants that everybody should look into. Uh state of Ohio covered five thousand dollars. So I walked out of there without putting down any closing talk everybody, there's a million one grants out there. All you gotta do your homework. You have to pay p and model right yeah, all right, yeah, but still you know you gotta you ain't had to put down no money. That is a great. Congrats, congrats, congrats mantasting feeling man. Thank you guys again, and also

want to shout out Star Lamain too. Thank you for your health with the mental health. Thank you King. Appreciate your brother. If you can't DM me, because I want to, um, I want to find out about that grant so I can put people onto that grant. So if you can DM me, welcome home and all right, brother, yeah, hello, who's this yo? What's all this money man, Mike, what I get it off your chest? Mike, what's what's Hey? I got to call and get this on my tip man.

It's it's kind of the topic that I was talking about your stay with face. Hey man, I I got to tell y'all. Man, So the difference between surface Earth and flatter man. We got to set on this top of you more we got, boy. So you believe in the flat surface Earth and flat Earth? What is the surface earth? Sir? Okay? Well, you know the earth that they say they know, the regular earth side that they say go on sound with the one you live on yep, okay,

so called live on Okay. So if you say we live on that Charlotte made, which I disagree on that, then how can you get okay? If you was a christ, which I'm not, But if you was a CHRISTI you was taught that on the city stage, God made something that separated the heavens, the heavens of bull and earth, so there would be something like a firmament. Right. I don't believe. I don't believe everything in the Bible, but tell me I need to know before we even continue

this conversation. What do you think we're living on before we even continue. What are we living on right now? So you what you want to hang on the bone, But no, I don't ask you a question. Listen, I think I think, I think we kind of live on something like it's kind of black, but we had we have like a dome on topple. Okay, we're in the globe. Okay, no doubt. Yeah, I feel like I feel like we're in the globe. But at the same time, do you

want to go out of space? Like do you think somebody shakes the globe every now and then to make it snow? Come on, man, come on, we're just asking a question. What's wrong? No, seriously, like I can't okay, if if you if you can, if you can't, explain that, man, explain to me. How can you see all? How can you see all? Rainbow? Rainbow? It's all that's what rainbow.

Everybody knows. Everybody knows rainbows or when angels are eating lucky charms and the lucky charms bowl is reflecting off the dome and okay, and that's what causes the rainbow. And sometimes you well he made a lot of good points this morning. Thanks for calling. Have a good day, sir. Man, Come on, what I didn't say. I didn't I didn't just credit you at all. I just said you made a lot of good point with you. We live in a globe, brot breakfast. That's why you gotta go to space.

It's why more people gotta go to space so they can see that the Earth is not flat. I think he's in space. Get it off your chests eight hundred five five one on five one if you need to vent or explain how the Earth we live in a globe. Whatever may bee he call us. It's a breakfast love of bating the breakfast club. I'm telling I'm telling you if this is your time, to get it off your chest, whether you're mad. Eight five one, we want to hear from you on the breakfast clause. Hello, who's this? Hey?

This is Key Jim and I. What's up? DJ Loose Booty and Doctor Lenard? Yeah, how y'all doing today? Doctor Lenard is funding DJ Lose Boy? How much? How much? How much you charge for your services? DJ Lose Booty? I don't know. You tell me, doctor. I think sixty nine is a good starting price. Yeah right, hey, I take care of all right. I have a good Hello and lose booty. Hello, who's that y'all funny? So my name is Kay blunt Man, out have thing honestly in Florida.

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what's up man? Yo, heyo, good morning a man? Good for me all. I always listen to y'all from I'm from thank you my name's like, don't be fulfilled. But I wanted to get off my check because I was. I was you what I've been I've been I've been drinking drinking. What you say? So? Hi? I was? I was blocked up in shell and as the kind of corrections,

how long I was? I was for fifteen months? And I was helped for a robbery another committed to the pandemic with a drop for me, I was forsed to be able to um take a ground a downgraded charge for test instead of a robbery. And I just wanted to get off my chest man because the correct the correction me screw up like a mom. It is. That's what they need to call it, the corruption facility, because they're not trying to correct nothing. Hey, they ain't cruse,

they ain't trying question I was supposed right. It's crazy because they they asked for people to get help. Actually, but actually they ain't doing nothing about But they ain't doing about nothing, man, Yeah they should, they should. They should have trades in there for y'all to learn so when y'all come out, y'all can have like some some some certified training. On another note, it's mad tru and like that's just that as going on around the drug

systems and they and they ain't got um. They got a prug, ain't got a drug program with um with people to get offensation with taking some potions and all that ship. And the people ain't really um seeking help for they used as a community about being black. We all need to get it together and we all need to change these systems because everybody corrupted around it. Agree from move rugs Man, I'm going to get off my chest.

But yes, sir Bill Fresh, he don't know that he can't not curse on the radio, even locked up, even listening to the podcast. He listening to all that cursing on podcast. He don't know no better. Hello, who's this? Hey? Ho's it going for them? Though? Good morning? Yes, sir, I was going I got a quick question with Charlotte man Man. Yes, sir, and mask you a question. I don't know if somebody ever asked you this, but who's your top three donkeys of all time? And when you're

considered consider giving donkey a Donkey Hall of Fame. Oh yeah. I mean at the end of the year we do a top five Donkeys of the year. I don't. I'm gonna be honest with you, Top donkeys of all time. Donald Trump is definitely in the top three. I mean I've given it to him more than anybody. And I'm gonna always put myself in the top three because I always say, you know, when you give people the credit, you gotta give everybody to credit they deserve for being stupid,

including yourself. I don't know who the third one would be, though sounds first y'all want to clude Braun for the Breakfast Club. Thank you. However, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Everybody's DJ Envy, Angela yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Good morning now, if you just join us, we're talking

about sugar daddies. Now, Angeli said she hasn't had a sugar daddy. Now, Charlemagne, would you like to confess about anything? I don't know what you're talking about. What you're about to lie about. I'm not gonna lie. You didn't have an older person that you that was giving you money. The older person that was giving me money? What are you talking about? WHOA You had an older lady that was giving you some money, But how did that make her a sugar daddy sugar mommy? I did have a

sugar mamma. Yeah, if that's what you I didn't know you could have a sugar mamma. But I definitely had an older woman back in the day. What was she giving you money for sex? How much was your sex worth? She would give me like two three thousand dollars before she would give me fried chicken. She would give me fried chicken. She give me fried chicken and twinkies. And she would always give me like two three thousand dollars

and a cost service home. Yes, sex is worths fried chicken and twinkies and two three thousand dollars and a cost service home. You never said two or three thousand before. That's a lie. I've always said two or three thouars. So wait a minute, So what I got to do with sugar daddies? Though? It was that grand child twinkies that you were shan't I grant here? Now we'll say this. I'm looking at these rules right to know about sugar dating and what first sugar dating can diabetic sugar dat

stay realistic. Successful men seek out sugarbabies for a reason, and you need to stay in tune with that. Have the terms and details laid out. They also said the best way is to back yourself unquestionably. So you have to be a fantastic companion and he'll believe it too, and be gracious. They're gonna shower you and gifts, likely from the very first date. To be gracious about it, from new outfits to money for a new haircut before

a nice dinner. It's all part of the arrangement. Okay, all right, Well we had destiny on a lot of dastity. Good morning, bye, good morning. Now you had a sugar Daddy's definitely had a sugar daddy. How old was he and how old were you? I was eighteen years old. He's about old Jesus Christ and how much money did he give you? Oh? Money to me? My brother? My wow? And what do you have to do? Nothing? Different conversation all day there's conversation did you ever have to have

sex with him. No, not at all. All he wanted to do was sit on the fire again. Stop and want to know how my dad did he leave you in his will? No, he didn't die. Oh he's still alive. Why do you think he's dadding? How old are you now? Come off? I'm twenty two now. I tried twenty three. Next on the thirteen. Oh so he only like fifty four? Now he young? Do you still speak to him? No, not at all, sugar. Oh he wanted, he wanted to. So that's the thing is are you a sugar daddy

if you're not getting none of the sugar? That's part of the thing I told you, sugar daddy, because of the stuff that you're giving up to my younger purchase. Yes, she did, sugar daddy. But when she got access for sugar, my one. Oh that's become not my sugar daddy. Did you miss him? No, not one bit? Okay? Was he white or black? She was? Actually? Okay? Okay, you had a man daddy, white sugar daddy? Did you never get Yeah, that's a that's a sodium daddy. That's manna. Hello me, hey, Melissa,

you got a sugar daddy? No? What how was your daughter? Wow? Okay, how old is her? Sugar daddy? She gets? He gives the money? Yeah? Does she have to give up some sugar? Yeah? Wow? How do you feel about that? Mom? Don't no, I don't know how to do. Did you ever, sugar daddy? Did she learn from you? Yeah? You know she did know what she learned from my cousin. Either way, diabetes runs in your family. Okay, everybody get daddy gets that for you too? Um? No not. Is he older than you? Yes? God,

damn gotta disgusting y'all. Don't adopt the granddaddy? Oh my god? Is he a nice guy at least? Yeah? He taking care of the whole house. And what does he do for a living? Yeah? Yeah, hustle? Is he white and black? But here hustle like a drug dealt a drug deal all over the town. That's wow. Can you imagine your mom's cooling and talking about my daughter got a sugar daddy? Ain't my daughter gets the sugar? Well to tell you, bro, that's her mom and then your mommy best friend. I

don't know. I don't know, man. Hello, who's this? This is lazing? Good morning y'all. Yes, I've had one I told him seventy five. He probably like sixty eight to seventy, but he'ds. But he doesn't want nothing from me, Like he doesn't wanted to take me out and show me a good time. Like he never asked for anything. Like he helped me talk my LLC and everything, like, yeah, I'm talking about I'm well when I'm twenty five right now. That was literally like probably two years ago. But wow,

I just ain't him. How'd you find him? He actually started coming to my job, Like where I used to work at. I used to work at, um, a little convenience store I called Parkers down here, and um yeah, he used to coming there all the time because he does construction. He got to own his own ship business Parkers. Yes, girl, yes whatever, that's okay. So that's yes, Savanna area. Yeah, so he took you out of Parkers. He got you your own LLC. What's the LLC called I Love My

Granddaddy Age LLC. Listen, I make lip gloss. It's called dope glass, Dope Glass on Instagram, dope bloss underscore. And where he at now, whether he at now? He is in Beautiful He's literally like an hour away from me, right now it's so crazy because we barely even thought. He just really messes with me, like I could call him anytime and he'll be there, like to do whatever it is that I need. What's the most he ever gave you? What's the most he ever gave you? Um was?

I would just say, he just does things for me, like he helps me with my car, Like you know, he never really gives me money money. He just helps me do things that I need to be doing to get me. I respected. I didn't know that you could be a sugar daddy if you wasn't actually sleeping with said individual. I learned something that you don't listen y'all. But before y'all hang up on me, I sit all three of y'all video yesterday, like I want ya to help me get my credit right, and like how that

lady was, I'm gonna leave party. Call your granddaddy, call you, call your call your granddaddy, Call your granddaddy, ask him to help me get your credit right. Now. Don't do that. Oh, I want my question for you. When you have a sugar daddy, can you have a boyfriend and then also have a sugar daddy? Help fund things on the side I did, but see the situation with the boyfriend. He was in jail. But yeah, just all right when when

you're coming home. Oh no, I don't okay out of him? Yeah, I mean he won't be home till you your sugar daddy age. That's what you're telling us right now. Cheated on the jail, Yeah, definitely, that's what it was. Javy in jail. Oh okay, yeah, y'allbody to get another good story? All right, Well, what's the up moral of the story. I have no idea what the moral of the story is because I'm totally confused on what sugar daddy is. Because when I think sugar daddies, I think I always

think of adding the cold smith. Like what Dominatri says with their clients, they don't sleep with them, And it's kind of like with sugar daddies, you don't sleep at them. They just like to pay for things. You know. These guys are just like to give you money and pay for things. They just like it. Yeah, we call those philanthropists. Maybe I'll should call them philanthropists poppies or something instead

of sugar daddies. All right, we got more coming up next with a Breakfast Club the Breakfast Club in the morning. Check out this breakfast club. We want Yesterday, I accidentally sent five thousand dollars to somebody I didn't know on cash app you how much money that is? Somebody's whole first of the muff is gonna be amazing tomorrow. It's not. They doesn't get that back. Why would you take it back? I mean that you don't know where this person. We

don't know what this struggle is. I'm right, and this person might be an evil, bad person, but we don't know what this person is struggling with right now actually really helps someone. God sometimes let things happen to you so he can be a blessing through you. You are a vessel back with the classic reward. It's the Breakfast Club A podcast Power one O five one, The Breakfast Club, Angela and Charlomagne the God. I want to get everybody, angel Charlomagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We

got a special guest in the building, Michael Blackson. What's up? But I sucker? What's happening in my brother? I'm doing good man now? He was because of my Milwaukee Buggs Jersey, because I knew that it's a buck fan today, I'm not a Bucks fan. I'm a fan of the city because Milwaukee is the first city to ever syndicate this ghetto ass show called the Breakfast Clubs. And this jersey is Chris Middleton. He's from Charleston, South Alana. And you just found that out out No, exactly, they say this

all time. I told me this when they busted the Brooklyn Nets. As I told Chris Middleton was from the eighth four three holding Out High School, again from South Carolina. That's Chris Midleton. You got too much money to fix your teeth. You don't have any gentle playing in is any within three thousand miles of the city. Pick out your champion? Michael Blackson. Nos Vegas was good. Oh yeah, yeah, I was. I went't checked out my boy Dave Shefel. They had a big concert there him man Um, who's

that Joe Rogan and it was a good chef. Did did you come out? No? No, I just wanted to just support and just check him out. Holiday Dave. He had some idea for some stupid movie he wanted me to do with him. You called it stupid because he says the movies gonna called African movies, you know, because your wife these African movies. Yeah, exaggerated. So he said, it's just over exaggerated movie. And he showed me a

little clip of what the idea was. It's a clip about this this monk gun shot, this guy gets shot, the bullets coming at him, and then he dugs, it's so stupid ass movie? Was he seriously? He was, just but it's coming. It's me comedy. It's called African movie. Me. No African movies Muslim look stupid. Yeah, not like like what Kanda type African movie, more like that's stupid. You're gonna do it? Oh yeah, yeah, anything. You don't think they'll be mad at you thought they'd be like, oh,

you're reinforcing types of African comedy. You could do whatever. When the comedy, I don't even know what that means normal, Mike. I'm gonna be honest with I know what. I know what I find funny and I laugh at and I agree with you things are just comedy. But people like like y'all can't be comedians normal. And I never stopped being a comedian, you know far sometimes so I know people gotta get mad. You see what I'm saying, you see what here just saying you go to day. I

look at Chris. What's going on? The girl's pregnant? Girl that liked what young is pregnant? Do you know she's pregnant? But I think she's pregned my little nas x. This listen to me. Okay, first of all, she's not even pregnant. She's not pregnant. She got somebody pregnant. She said that she was. It was an interview where she said they asked her that she want to have kids. One day she said yes, and she said clearly it means my girl would be pregnant, not me. Oh, I think she

got pregnant. I did. I did a lesbian one. It didn't work. But she started to suck my like she put my legs down. I'm grown. Well, what's the difference, how do you? How do you suck? Get what? She to? Never get my ass? Well, million years ago, when I was married. It's I was young. I married a very young age. My wife was a freak. Uh yeah, but no, I don't get my ass anymore. What you have. Though I was young, I didn't know. I didn't know what she was doing. You know what she was doing somebody

I did not know. I think she was gonna lets you know a tongue like bitch. No, don't do that. Did you stop them? Yeah? I just stopped after and let me ask you, so you can with your your feet behind your head. No I cannot. I thought you just said you did it. No, no, no, I'm just saying that lesbian chick. Try to see. People were mad at you. They always madame. I guess you posted a

picture of your home in Africa. Yeah, and I guess when you when you came out the crib, they noticed that your home was the only home like that in the area. I've been looking for a house back home because I'm building a school in Ghana. So you built graduation, thank you very much. And I'm building a school with my mother's village, which is about two or three hours away from the city. And the village is a little tougher because the kids out there they have to drive

or get a long way to get to school. And most of the time the schools, the government school which just consider public schools, feels that pretty fat because they're free and then everything else costs money, and kids can afford to go to schools. They don't go to school. They just work grounds. And I figure out, you know, and let me building my school for free. So I've been looking for a house for three years and this house was like so beautiful, Like I saw it online,

I didn't see it in person. You know, prices decent. No, Hi fa Africa. I'm in love with his house. It's gotta be something. It's something about it I'm not gonna like. And I got there and I'm like, I knew it. It was where it was, you know it was. It's a new developing area, so he's not completely finished yet, but when the area is finished, it's gonna be worth millions of dollars. At first, I didn't want it because I didn't I wasn't comfortable with that. But I say,

you know what, this is where I came from. You know, these kids are going to be one to keep an eye in my house because I'm barely gonna be there. And I didn't have a problem with that. But eventually they're gonna pay those people to, you know, to move out, and they're gonna build more houses in the area, so you gentrify the whole neighborhood. I'm neifizing it. I got a property and gum he did. Yeah, it's on the beach. Oh no, no, I heard about shut up, you ain't

hitting nothing anything. So how the podcast going? Man, mother sucker? You know what Chinese best friend is? Niggah. I don't see with him no more. I've been I've been on the road a lot, and his lady won't let him go anywhere because you no, no, he just you know, if I was here, I wouldn't let him go anywhere. I was wrong with me. Yeah, it's you'd be around too many women. She's probably like no. I mean he most of the time he invites the women and then

he no sitching on. He's not listening to this girl. Might be she's from Hungry Man Dad serious, anything about it. I'm not even the type of this My guy, like, you know, from day one, since the day he got drafted. I remember when I ran into him on South Street in Philly, He's like who he recognized music. We took a picture together. He's like telling me a joke. I said the sixes because at that time we saw you know,

he's still laugh at that joke to today. And then we became cool with the Eagles game together with you know, even sometimes when they travel and go out of town. I'll go to games. You know, he hooked me up whatever. But then I remember, um, he initially be met with me the first time. It was um, it was a Miami game. It was doing Super Bowl weekend. He was with, Uh, what's the family that people's lives that he's with one of those his daughters. Yeah, he was a candole or something.

And then I introduced him to Rider his it's my girl Rider and then I'm when we got back to the hotel, Riders like I think he was in my DM, I'm like, I said, you know what he's he's seen me and I drew a bunch of checks. He probably just didn't even want to one of the bitches. I just be with, you know, excuse my language. Um so because she looked at me funny, I'd been get funny to talk. He's saying some girls on my page, he

hate Mike. Who's this girl hooked me up? And I've done that, Ben Simms, Yes, OK, been so so I have hooked him up. And I was like, I said, listen, there's a whole lot of checks in my in my page. He probably just think one of them that I just you know, then do me nothing, tell me, so don't worry about it. A week or two went back, she said, he's my dm be game. And then he's on my snapchat and he was holly and had you know, he's talking about, hey, you know you want this whatever something

like that. So Dan I had, you know, I had a proble. I never even pushed my body. I just lost a respect for him because you know, I tell you my girl he was hat. That ain't the first one. I'm sure you lost your girl to like a more richard, most celebrity. The thing might I have a really loyal woman, you know. I mean, I don't worry about anything. What about when y'all were on a break right you guys had a little brief break up, didn't you We have

we had a couple of break up. But she's she's that lawyer that she's not the type that would go and want to any of my friends, I mean together. You know, I'm just saying this is one about two and a half years. I mean, I'm just I'm sure she is trustworthy. But how do you know for sure she's trustworthy? You know you can feel it, man, I know I know a hole one, I'm with one. I've been with a lot of holes. Now, she had a problem with your lifestyle, but y'all squashed that out at

what time? I mean we've we've negotiated, you know, what does that mean? You mean? I mean I'm cutting down on the site pitch just from you know, from three a month to maybe one. We negotiate that I'm allowed to have one chick per month. Okay, only one day permo. If you're allowed to do what you want to, well, now one day, I mean, like you know, one person from that's riskier because then it's only one other person.

You might get more feelings. There's no ship I mean as opposed to like multiple if you with one woman? So can she have one a month? She any woman you want? Yes? What about women are not built for that? You can't be taking two three ladies? Explain, Mike, what do you mean? Because women are more emotional? You know you have things you guys are kind of emotional. I'm not emotional. You just got an emotional over Ban Simmons. No, no, no,

because I thought you's my friend. I'm not disappointed in him, R. It's more disappointment, you know. I think was a light skinn thing, but you like skinning you cool. Maybe maybe he didn't. Maybe he's seen you with other women before him, Like man, Mike, don't care. One realized when he I mean, this is like two months ago. Now you know for a fact it's chick morral. Yeah, you should know. He knew.

There's what happens if you see him now, probably you ain't gonna do that, not but he, I mean, band is going through enough trying and step get trying to shoot the shot that shoot free throws. He got a whole lot of others to work about. You know what team's gonna play for. I don't get traded to the Shanghai Shocks. Okay, I don't even care anymore now, I mean I bet I'm not. He got bigger problems now. You know, it just humbles you. Sometimes you need something

to humble you. He just thought he's on top of the word, you know, because these guys get one hundred and eighty something million dollars and anything. He could just do whatever and dispect and do anything you want, and now God would bring you damn down. All right, we got more with Michael Blackson when we come back. Don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee. Charlomagne, the guy we all to Breakfast Club

was still kicking it with Michael Blackson yee. Do you think couples Retreat helped your relationship? Yeah? Helped me pay some bills in COVID when when I wasn't working, and you know, but overall I think it did you know, it made me understand her a little bit more, get to get into our feelings a little bit more, because I'm more like African man, like you know, everything's gonna be a kid just just I'm just These women don't mean nothing to me. You know, you mean a whole

word to me. You know, But ain't she like want to? Like I mean, don't get it wrong. We've had fun. She's been with some of these girls as well. This is just not me being a thought by myself. We've had three something four something? Did she want to when she was doing it? Because you want later on she told me she know Mike out what he's doing this for? You? Wow? Did you feel bad? So we didn't? Do you feel bad? No? I didn't. I mean my thing is I just I realized that it just in me to live that life.

And I mean, and I realized that after I broke up with my ass, like when I was free and doing what I wanted to do and I had a bunch of female friends sleeping all of them all at one time, altogether whatever, that I realized that was my life. And when she came in, that's what she saw and she figured how she could come and probably eventually tamed me down. And it didn't work like she plays. It feels like you have your wall up, maybe like you're

not allowing you're not allowing yourself to love. No, I do love, I know that, but I'm saying it could be you say, he gotta relax, like when you got to ask, you gotta just relax. That was twenty years ago. But it feels like all these women might be a reason for you to not give your all to one person. No, no, no, I really feel Rader is the one. Okay really, when you say to one, what do you mean, Mike married, introduced to your mother, She didn't mean my mother. She

went to Africa to meet my mother. That's great. I feel she's only because you know she's got I never had a one Wan to have my back like she's loving. No one never wanted anything. So do you feel like you sacrifice enough for her? Because it feels like she sacrifices a lot to be with you. She do, That's why this sacrifice and I cut down to one bit your mother all right, Well, if you guys are okay, I can't judge anybody else. Get she's okay with it.

She want I mean, don't get anyone. She wants some kind of like commitment because she feels like she's looking stupid, like you know, Mike, she feels like, you know you you replace me any that, Like she want to feel like, you know, a little bit more special. Would you get married? Marriage to me is very religious, very spiritual, you know, because when you get married, you put God into this relationship without guy being in there. I feel like I could just do whatever I want once you put God

in there. You're crazy. You're laughing at my funniest hell, I ain't. God ain't with us right now? Is always I understand that, but he's not in the relationship. Yes, what about I said, no more side bitches at all, not even one. My whole thing. I don't want to be lying because a lot of my whole life. I was going a lie to everybody. You know what I mean? Might starts still fun though, Mike put a bunch of other women. Yes, really fly We everything we've done in

our life, we do it for women. Yeah, but I got a nice carck is one point. Bitch in the car. You gotta night house. You want to bring up printing house and fun the house you have wet knights close to the girls, like dad, that's a little night of me. Come, everything's for sex sex sex You said that. Look let me No, I'm just saying, Oh, I like pouring in the one woman though, like I like being a faithful You've been faith for your whole life. No, but I've

been super faithful. The pass she's married. She cheating on your wife. I got married twenty fourteen. Okay, you cheated when I cheated for the first two years about God was not you see God? But that's why. But that's why I stopped. I stopped because number one, I want to do right by God and I want to do right by my wife. So he's not married. As his point right, we're not married, so I'm not married. God is nine You no party? Once I put God in it then I can't not do it again. But you can't.

But you gotta stop those habits now though. You gotta be ready. I'm probably gonna get married January thirty second, twenty thirty nine. How your kids, kids are good? My oldest son, we know, we talked about that issue with him. He's doing better, you know, not where I want him to be, you know, but he's uh, he's you know, he's decided to stay with his mother and he's you know, he's staying out of trouble. The tins are doing great. They're on vacation of the mother somewhere right right now.

You're paying for it, I'm sure, I am. I mean, but one one good thing that happened. I mean, we me and my baby mother beat for many years, been really bad, ugly in and out of courts. But recently, I think the best medication for your baby mother is just y'all make up with your baby mother. You got to just run it with There's no other way, any other way. It's gonna cost you a whole bunch of money. We've been fighting for the whole last year. It's costing

me over fifty thousand dollars. Ready, just fighting. I'm like, this money go towards these kids college situation, you know. So we found a way to beat both be two mature adults and work it out, you know. So shout out to that. I'm I don't know what and this is all happened in the last couple of days. So yeah, that's a big it was. It was the only thing else keeping away from leaving my best life was the fight that I had, the struggles with my kids, fight

about what was the fight about? Its just everything. It's like, um, custody, COVID, everybody life up minded prior to COVID. You know, our corridor is. You know, she put them on the plane to come to me, and then COVID come. She's you know, she said the kids has has asthma. Before I said, do you want the kids get on the plane? Right understanding?

You know. So, um, I didn't like that idea because I'm like, yeah, I'm like, you know, people are on the plane and putting a mask and following rules and regulation and that should not stopped custody, you know. So that was a big fight. So I said, okay, you know what, I'm gonna go up your money. I'm gonna go get a place where where you guys live and try to fight for some custody, you know. And dad went out for a whole year and it was ugly and you had COVID before too. I did get it. Uh,

it affected your sex drive. I didn't want I was sex was on my mind. Took my too, my gut deside to come and you know, she came out like a few I came me a few days later to like, you know, take care of me, and we end up working doing COVID. She put a mask on it everything. Yeah serious actually, but y'all weren't so distance, so yeah, man, we still practiced. We still had a mask outside and

we did it. I opened the doors, I mean the Dolcny doors and I hit it from the back, so it's like he's still social distance, I mean six feet. So it's pretty. But how did it? How did it affect you? Uh? I mean I survived it nothing, you know, I went. I mean I had it hard, you know, not much. It lose of taste, you know. I had like bass sword throat and I gotta go with some salt water and then um, you know helped it. So

once I was a would eat again. I was just a little feeling better because I remember too skinny anywhere to not eat side I lost like six pounds and eleven hournces and then um, but I went through all the diarrhma, had ache. It was bad. I was, I thought I was. I didn't think I was gonna die. Know I was gonna We had a deal. He said he wanted to kill us something I know about all that. Man, That's how bad it was. Nah, did you get it?

Not that I know of, But you didn't get it in you'll know when you think I think I had it, like early back in jail, I haven't gone an I know I had and really don't know. Yeah, most more people have no symptoms than people that do. Yeah, had a cold. So you vaccinated? I got the card, But but you vaccinated? Time got the car? What do I mean when you can't be scared of vaccines because you go to guy I got your shot to go to Will you get it once every ten years? The yellow

people shot thirteen years? Okay, I have the car. I mean, yes, you are. No, he got the car. I have the car. That means vaccination is to protect you though, Yeah, you know condoms we mean, I mean it's freak. They come with it. You take, you take a vascination, you get the car. So I got the car. I have a lot move. We got more with Michael Blacks and when we come back, it's the Breakfast Club, Go Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy and Ngula Yee. Charlomagne the guy we

are the Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Michael Black. Charlemagne. What's next for Michael Blackson Man? Uh? What we do? You know? We got the podcast mother Sucker podcast comes on, you know Black, Fact, Black and Fact. I heart radio podcast network. Every Monday, every Tuesday, Tuesday. I'm sorry, it was Monday. It was never Monday. Okay, every Tuesday, Tuesday the same day Tuesday. Okay, it's doing I guess it's doing good. I'm going it's doing really it's really okay

because I don't advertise. Is just scared of you. But that's all I tell him, not a worry about it. It's okay. Um yeah yeah, but I'm what else next? I'm back. I'm going back onto a boy this fall back onto our Martin Lawrence. You know. Prior to that, I'm doing my own thing. Um something out everywhere all over again. It's a good feeling. Jamie Fox, big fan of my work. You want to produce a show with me for me? You know, kind of like my life.

They figured out my instagram is like they all lived through my life and they said, Mike, your life is a it's a show. I don't even know you can produce you What do you mean why you say that? Because y'all are it's so real and it's so raw, Like does y'all get y'all to be like, oh do this and do that? I don't know if it'll be this. I mean, I follow ruse, I know what not to do.

You know, I'd rather than just turn the cameras on and let you live and edit it from that that that's hopefully that's probably just cut out all that, you know, the crazy part. That's what the people want though. Crazy. But I mean it depends when network goes to I mean, if we got a Netflix, thin't you wild out man? For you it's gonna be on BT, then you know you gotta come down. But I mean that's pretty much that you just out here getting money. I'm not even

gonna front. We appreciate, but like you know, you haven't met Rider. Who's seriously get ridder? Come here? That's Bay Yeah. Yeah, the white girl. She's on white. She's come on Rider. You're making a famous famous together. Oh yeah, she hasted, Hey er, come on Bader since Miami. Yeah, rememb where you met with Miami. I did at the super Bowl. It was beautiful super week that he said he's gonna marry you. He said you want to get married? Right? What he told me that the other day? You're going

back on it now. Oh, he didn't tell you want to get married. Oh about the propos? Get on your knees, Michael, Michael, Get on your kne Michael. By the way, I can't say it with your chance Mike, Right, I love you, marry me. Fine side. Let's make sure is that blade bit what you mean? I'm ninety side bitches by bike, Mike, I'm coulation. Congratulations, That's what I'm talking about. I love to see it. I'm happy for you, man. Congratulations right, congratulations. Right,

I can't believe this. Wow, this is she is shaken. She not even she was not expecting that at all. Well, guy, she said, yes, congratulations Mike. Congrat you're playing this out this has never We have never had anybody proposal. When did you decide to do this? Mike? When did you decide that I'm going to propos to ride Er? What did it said that some lawyer t Yeah, yeah, I never had a woman that's disported to me. Wow? What crime behind? Yes? Congratulations man, Meet the Blackstons, coming soon,

meet the Blacks. Okay, ring right, congratulations man, that's amazing. Well, Michael Blackson, we appreciate you, missus Black, missus Rider Black. Are you gonna change your last name? Yes? Okay Blacks Yes, one question. Right? When he had COVID, he said that y'all really had sex during COVID. When he had COVID, you put on the mask. I came to take care of him. Wow. And you really wanted to know if you got a six six foot that's what you really want to do? What? No, it's more like eight foot.

That's my man. I need that have an ego boost of my life too. Alright, congratulations, So Breakfast Club, your mornings will never be the same. Angela Ye here, and did you know that the General Insurance has been saving people money for nearly sixty years. Take a closer look at the General and see how they can help you save too. Call eight hundred general or go to the general dot com. Some restrictions apply. Don't be at a date as you get drunk a day you are or

drunk the date. Hun, I'm gonna fatten all that shit around your eye. Want man to Dolden Blowers many with Charlomagne the topness to make a judgment. Who was going to be on the Donkey of the day. They chose you as a practfast club bitches. Who's donkey of the day to day? Wow? Donkey of the day of goose. The two individuals from which your top falls texts ok a twenty year old man named William Henderson and the

thirty four year old woman named Rochelle Conrey. Now remember when you was talking about the Brooklyn next owner who bought a conduct yes for a one hundred and fifty seven million in Brooklyn and Kanye spending in a million. It's in Manhattan, Manhattan, and Kanye spending a million a day to rent out Mercedes ben Stadium to finish his album. And we got into a quick discussion about how you

know people got it. Yep, that's just not true. The gap between the halves and have notch is wider than it's ever been in these two individuals, William and Rochelle definitely fall into the haven category. I really don't think y'all appreciate your blessings enough. People out here starving. It's hard to see that sometime when you personally live a certain lifestyle, but people are out here hurting, not knowing what their next meal is coming from, and when your

ribs is touching like that, everybody food, everybody's a lick. Okay. People wondering why violent crime is up all across the country, it's because people need money. People need cash, and they're gonna get that dough by any means necessary. Hell, the great Black philosopher Sean Carter one stag broke is don't want no cash, They just want to kill you. That is true too, because people are hurt. People in paint.

People got traumas, traumas they haven't dealt with, and they end up projecting that hurting that trauma on to us. It's okay, that's where a lot of the violence stems from. In the case of women Rochelle, that's what it feels like to me. See women Rochelle have been arrested and charged with aggravated robbery. Who did they rob? What did they take? Well, let's go to KFDXNBC three for the report.

Please if people remain behind Barston i'd after police say they robbed a woman in a wheelchair of her groceries. Twenty year old William Henderson and thirty four year old Rochelle Conbre were arrested this morning and charged with aggravated robbery. When officers spoke to the victim, she said she had been paper sprayed and robbed. During a confrontation with the victim, Conbre took out paper spray from a per Henderson then took that from combray and sprayed the victim in the face.

The pair then took mannaise, potato chips, and a portable fan from the victim and left the scene. The victim told police the names of the suspects, and officers found them about fifteen minutes later in the one thousand block of Holiday Street with the victims property and the pepper stray. Now, according to a law firm in Texas called Luster Law, aggravated robbery without any criminal history can get you a sentence in Texas. Ranger from a minimum of five years

to ninety nine years our life in prison. Think about that, William and Rochelle took a penitentiary chance of epic proportions for some potato chips, a portable fan, and some mannaise. We don't even know what kind of Manids was it, Helmand's Dukes Hines. I mean, it's not like normal kind of Mannaids justifies anything they did. But if they went to jail for some star brand Mannaids, it just makes

this heat hit harder. Now, look, I scribe did not judge people for what they do when they are in survival mode, but can you imagine getting five years in prison, possibly ninety nine years in prison because you stole potato chips, mayonnaise, and a portable fan from a woman in a wheelchair. What kind of potato chips were they? Kettle C Salton Vinegar, Miss Vicky C Salton, vinegar, Cool Ranch, Doritos, Chili Chiefs, Fritos.

I mean, those my favorite chips. Not that it matters, that justifies what they did based on the brand of potato chips. Inquiring minds like myself would just like to know because I'm always intrigued by how the human brain works and what moves people that make these kind of choices. Now, the portable fan of self explanatory. I was looking at the temperature this week in Wichita Falls. They got hides of one hundred and three with over eighty percent humidity.

Totally understand why you would take the portable fan. Don't need to explain that one, But I do want to know when people do things like this, are they aware of the consequences of their actions. Because if you have to rob someone for a portable fan, some potato chips and some mayonnaise, then you don't have money for a paid attorney. You just don't. They're gonna give you a public defender, and the public defender is going to do their job, and they probably gonna do a good job.

But you're still going to prison. And I'm telling you right now, last thing you want to hear when you're in a prison shower is I bet you can't eat just one. Okay, A bunch of people in prison trying to get you to re enacted to Rito's fingerlicking commercial. Ain't nobody got time fall that. The marl of the story is, don't make a permanent decision based on temporary emotions. Okay, that woman, y'all, Pepper sprayed. That woman in that wheelchair,

y'all Pepper sprayed and robbed. It's traumatized. She's gonna have to do a lot of work to move that trauma through everybody. And William and Rochelle, y'all going to prison. I don't care if it's the minimum of five years or the maximum of ninety nine years are somewhere in between. You're going to prison for a permanent period of time based off temporary feelings and circumstances. Now, I don't have anything much to stay here except now it's time to

play a game of Jess. What race it? All? Right? Which tall falls Texas? William is twenty, Rochelle is thirty four. That Pepper sprayed a woman in a wheelchair and robbed her for potato chips, a portable fan, and man Aid's angela. Yee, jess, what racing? Ay? Let's start with William because it is two people Caucasian. You think they're both Caucasians? Yeah, you say that with a without a shadow of a doubt,

no doubt. Why just from the whole description, and are there a lot of black people in with you, Tar, I don't know. I'm not sure about that, but okay, okay. And the mayonnaise, all right, mayonnaise is really it's really a dead giveaway, uh dj NV White what you think both of them women in Rochelle, yes, what gave it away? Mann? Well, I would have to say that y'all are fifty percent correct with this one. It's a trick question. Rochelle is

absolutely Caucasian, okay, okay, William is Indian. Don't you even think about it? Red, I don't don't. Don't you even don't you don't you do even think about it? Okay? But but William is Indian? Yes, okay, yes, so please give U William what's his name? Please give William Henderson and Rochelle Conbry the biggest he hull that played every genreal music. But I didn't didn't. I don't think we've ever had an Indian and guess what race it is?

And I don't even want Red to even assume. Okay, I got okay, that is smart smart even as all right, all right, well thank you for that, donkey today, Yes, indeed, all right, we got more coming up next with a Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club the Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

We got a special guest joining us this morning. Indeed, Erica Ford and Andre Norman Welcome, Good morning, Good morning. How are y'all? Don't want to form Jeff? Absolutely, they're here because Andre has an initiative called the Academy of Hope. Tell us what the Academy of Hope is. Bro The Academy of Hope is a program that's designed to help

prison violence. In South Carolina. A few years ago, seven brothers lost their lives and in response to the Director of South Carolina Probative Corrections Brian Stirling, brought us sing because he wanted to decrease the violence. So we got all the leaders of all the different organizations in South

Carolina and said we have to stop this. We put them in one unit, the heads of all the different organizations, and they agreed to a peace treaty and they've been building and learning how to do interventions and help each other first get along and carried out to the population. And it was probably six months ago when of the brothers said, you lieutenant's life and being murdered. How did you start those conversations with those brothers locked up? I

mean we went in. The entire prison system was lockdown for five months after the riot, and we came in. They opened the doors. I said, you gotta let them out. It wanted me to talk like one day at a time. I'm like that stupass man. Let these brothers out. They've been locked down for five months. When it came out, we talked what was good for them? What about your family? What about your future? I'm saying, do you want to get out of here? Because I got one of my homies.

It was with me, he did twenty nine years when we flipped this case and got him out. He's like, listen, man, let's do law work. Let's not worry about contraband I'm saying, let's let's do paralegal stuff versus hustling on the yard. And we talked about their freedoms, about their family, and that's what the academy hope it's about. Now, can we talk about your background and why this is something that's

important to you? In particular, it's important to me because I spent fourteen years locked and so I had a hundred years sentence at a total of one hundred years, and I was inside doing what I do, six cases, shipped around the country, doing what I thought I was supposed to be doing, representing getting the name. Then I woke up one day and I realized I was a king of nowhere. I had the bag I had to respect. I was a king of nowhere, and I said, this

ain't it. I said, well, I want to do something different. And the first thing I did is looked at the people who went home, the white black Spanish age. Nobody went home and state on. I said, freedom don't work. I need successful. So I said, I'm gonna go home and be successful and go to Harvard University. Everybody thought I was crazy. They said, you can't go to Harvard. You can't read. I'm saying, all you do. You in a hole for trying to just all the time. But

I didn't kill what nobody said. I taught myself to read, taught myself to law, went back to court, went to programs, and for the next eight years I worked on myself and I had mentors in my life. And I got out of jail and I got a Harvard fellowship now I've worked at the White House, I've been at London Business School for twenty years, and I worked around the world with tons of people, and I could not go back.

I've been going back since ninety minutes after I got to prison, prison Proof as youth center, doing the work. That's why me and Eric are connected, because we do the work. And that's what's so important too, because you talk about your background also and what even led you to ending up in prison, and just kind of how you were raised and what you saw and what you thought was normal growing up. For me, I went to prison not because people didn't love me, not because the

neighborhood was bad, not even because schools were bad. I went to jail in the prison because my father taught me how to quit when he walked out on us. He taught me quitting was okay, and so everything in my life, music, sports, leadership, I quit. I quit it and it left me all positives gone, left me only negatives. So I went to jail for being a quitter or how you don't decide to quit after getting this sentence

to one hundred years. That's why that's why I saw you know, the defected your organ this's got the Academy of hope. Like you had to have some type of hope even back then, because one hundred years, Lord have mercy. When you get off the bus, the big homies pull you up and you get into the flow. I wanted to go to school, wanted to go to learn how to be a folkliff driver, and they're like, yo, man, is that ain't the life up in here? They taught me to life from prison and I rolled with that

and wasn't about doing a hundred years. It was about staying alive today and that day to day grind. Just six years later, I didn't been shipped to nine different states. I got kicked out of Massachusetts, kicked out of this one, kicked out of the Fez. I was in terror hoping in the eighties when it was a glad of head school and people just get murdered every day, and you just get into that groove. It's like, dudes who hustle, You're get into that group. You got enough money, why

are you still hustling? You got into that groove and it's like, how old are you when you got sentence to the hundred eighteen? Okay, great, not great? But did you realize what a hundred years was, because I sometimes think these kids don't know what them numbers is when they get sentenced. Man, no you don't. You don't even think about it because the math doesn't make sense. You're just like, okay, you get off, you get off the bus up. For me, it was a reunion of all

my friends from the dummy class. It was reading all my friends from juven o perbation. You know, all my friends got kicked out of school. It was just a big reunion and everybody's there not focusing on reality. They're still living in the fantasy world of OZ like this is this is cool. And for six years it was cool.

I had fun. I ain't gonna lie really yeah, fun, but you did like two years I did two and a half years in solid It's like, what's fun about being on a block at three o'clock in the morning selling crack? Dudes do it? What's fun about getting up every single day and coming to work dudes doing I mean, you get into the lifestyle and you think you're making moves, but the only thing is you ain't moving up. The lodders ain't a corporate job. It's it's they put you

in the tailspin. So you wake up, you realize, damn, I'm sixteen years in. My homie walked up. There's twenty five years in. They had them out on Flaunch ADX Lockdown, and it's like you get into a mind it's a mindset. But what do you say the kids that grow up and they always say I always hear I have no other way to do it. I had to do this. I was stuck. This is this is my environment, this is my area. This is all I can do. I believed you up until right now. It was all you

can do until right now. See now you have life Camp, Now you have Academy Hope, now you have other programs that are going to show you how to make that transition. So yeah, I believe you. Up until right now, all you knew was trauma. All you knew it was negativity. All you knew was the hustle. Now do you really want to change? Yeah? They have. Some people never leave their neighborhood and they don't even know like what they

could be capable of or see other things. Because when you grow up yourself used to being in this, like you know a few blocks of where you grew up, you're self used to the people that are around you, and you don't even see like what your life could potentially be. And some people's parents are stuck in Yeah, so their kids get stuck in the cycle, and their parents, you know, block their children's ability to fly on, you know, and it's like you have to. It's like you're fighting

for the mindset of a whole community. And that's why we address violence as a public health crisis, because you have to help people heal and transform. You have to change mindset because what we're doing is not rocket science. We care about people, the people who own these institutions and create the environment for us not to because every community, when you cross a certain line, it's fundamentally different. The stores are difference, the food is different, the school learning,

the life is different. The street there's no sidewalk, you know, everything is different. And so how do you have to expose people to the world outside they block right and let them know that there's hope and opportunity on the outside. You know. I was very when I first met Andre and saw that he was a brother. Because we hire

credible messages. Most of the folks that we hire fully acrost rated men and women and Andre is like an He breaks the old also of that you just gotta be you like you gotta be that oldg like always ignorant, you know, like no, you don't like And so there's Andrea and another brother for Chicago, doctor Chico. They received

a lot of folks. I'm receiving the doctrine. Going further to now, we have influenced the White House to put five billion dollars we talked about the last time we were here in the infrastructure built and that would help us provide more programming and service and really build an industry around violence prevention. You know, just like when the hip hop industry, the music industry first started. You know, we're looking to do the same thing. All right, we

have more with Andre Norman and Erica Ford. When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we are to Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Erica Ford and Andre Norman Charlomagne. Why old organizations like Academy of

Hopes are important. Act. It's important because you gotta reach these folks and you need they need access to people like Andre to give them the ability to understand that they could do it too, because you know, me coming up to them, it's like, yeah, yeah, you know, you ain't never did what we did. It's like they say all the time, right, but he could say like I

not only did it, I exceled beyond it. And he still makes a whole lot of money doing what he does, you know, So you don't have to be a herb or bomb or whatever it is that people think it is. You know, you could be very successful doing this work.

And that's what people need to see, you know. That's why I talk a lot of time to artists and celebrities about making this work cool, because if we're not on the breakfast club, we don't exist, you know, if we're not hanging out with somebody who got a rep

you know, geminizing the building. We see a lot of people talking about prison reform, a lot of celebrities, And you've been doing the ask work for such a long time, so you have seen a lot of progress, would you say, because we have a lot left to do, but you do have hope for that? Yes, yes, I do have hope. But a lot of people talk loud they're not really doing a lot, you know, and they get the access to the resources because they talk loud and they have

the camera, they have the microphone. But a lot of people who are doing real quality work, like if we put millions of dollars in the stuff that we were doing the same stuff that he's talking about in Rikers too, and then they Rikers is different because they change the administration and so they stop the program. Right, so now there's no program and there's a whole lot of fighting between correction officers and in rikers. Now they need to put the programs back that work, like this is a

lot of societies backwards. Stuff that works, they don't invest it. Stuff that don't work they invested. You don't ask how did the prison administration contact you guys and how was that? Because it feels like a lot of times you would think that the prison administration doesn't want to hear what we think works and they just want to try their own thing, whether more police or more officers in there.

So how did that conversation that most people go what they know, that's just the standards, whether it's police and whether it's yeah, whatever they go with. You know, if it's the homies, you get more Homies. I was at a conference speaking and when I finished speaking, a lady named mean and Staley walked up to me. She was a director program so South Carolina. She said, that was a wonderful speech, but can you actually do that? That's

what do you mean? She said, we just had seven brothers died and thirty people wounded, and we've been lockdown for five months. We don't have an answer. Can you be our answer? And at first I was like, I'm busy. I'm like lady, I'm a motivational speaker. I make ten racks of speech. I'm flying around the world. I catched me in December. It was August, and she said, where's

your commitment to the work? Canceled my whole schedule. Seven days later, I was in South Carolina called the homies and three of us went in there and we spoke at ten prisons over six days to eight thousand people. Were you nervous that they weren't going to be received you guys, well, no, I can't get on no place. I got on in the penitentiary. I got no worry about going in the penditentiary because I grew up there.

I speak that language. Once I started talking. They're like, oh, he from saying like, you got thousands of people who talked to work, but they I got literally my brother right now, Dominic Williams, twenty nine years wall to wall is in South Carolina prison right now at lead correction doing the work. I'm saying, we got brothers inside, Tracy Fan, South Carolina freedom fighter inside today doing the work. I got Sean Henley out of the South side of Chicago

inside today doing the work. If I wasn't here, I'd be at the prison. This was supposed to be yesterday. When you bumped it. I said, yo, y'all. They're like, yo, dre go rap us. I'm saying, I'm here not to rap under the Norman. I'm here to repp the brothers from South Carolina who were inside. I'm saying, trying to be heard, like they're doing great stuff. How do we put this program in every prison? How do you put this program in every prison. It's a conversation either with

the governor, the president. I'm saying that people on the Director of Corrections and we just go in. I mean, I've had corrections offices. I met with the brother runs New York. I'm saying two weeks ago. It's just about networking. It's who you know, it's not what you do. I would think that people would listen to YouTube because one hundred years you did fourteen like did you learn something?

And did you learn the legal system? Or do you get out on the pill or my case is in the books, No, no, you go come up versus on the normal numb in the books. I'm saying I had a hundred years or for a time I was supposed to do twenty eight. I'm saying I flipped and gave back like ten or twelve, and I made parole. So it wasn't like I had. It wasn't all consecutive, but it was a hundred years worth of time. And when I came home, I was inside. I saw the studying.

That's the greatest place to study. There's no greater place to study, the independent country because your focus is on so I come from the world or get it right or die. When I was hustling inside, it was get it right or die. When I started studying, I had the same attitude, and I learned the things I need to learn. When I came home, I was waiting for this expert to pop up and They say, Yo, you don't know nothing about this work. And this embarrassed me.

But I would go places and nobody knew about the penitentiary because they've never been. They read a book, somebody told them about it, some intern there of the story. They've never been. We go inside. We don't sit outside with a I'm going unders people whole signs. We go behind the walls and we sit with people in themselves, in their pain. We help them heal, because if you

don't help them heal, they'll never grow. What rights do incarcerated individuals have when it comes to corrections officers being abusive toward them? Is it? Do you feel like helpless about that? Or what can somebody do if they're being mistreated, you're being mistreated. Um, you can follow a grievance, but a grievance goes back to the same cycle. I mean that the whole correction system. It's like saying what rights of a slave? I'm saying you own the plantation and

the story. It's slavery twenty twenty one. So I'm not going to try to dress it up because I worked there. Prison is slavery. That's it, Thirteenth Amendment. Unless you come at a crime, you do Breakfast Club morning. Everybody is dj enjy Angela Yee. Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Erica Ford and Andre Norman Charlomagne. What does that healing look like? Erica, the healing Drey was talking about the healing looks like.

One of the things that we used to do in the prison is fight with them around the diet of the folks. Right. We used to do yoga with them inside and we were in the worst unit here in New York City, and so they were in cages, right, and we would do yoga in the in the cage with them. We would do meditation with them or the

day to day basis. We would have them do different kind of readings and understanding about this is not you, This doesn't define you where you are and healing, you know, like you gotta let go of what brought you here.

What is the pain of the trauma that you were dealing with that caused you to do that crime or cause you to do Because the first thing is keeping folks out of prison, right, and then if they go into the the prison, then allow us to work with them to transform them so that they come back to society a whole new person. And in terms of just what people can do in terms of support is you

got to contact the people outside. You got to have advocates that can raise the attention of what's going on inside the prison, to bring attention to it so that they can get relief, because if nobody knows, then it's going to go on and on and on. And a lot of people are being violated in prisons. A lot of people are serving time for crimes that everyone knows they didn't. You know, it's a business and in order for the businesses they run it, you need people in there.

And so that's the flip side of the work. You know. Really I would love to close all the prisons and allow us to really help our people. Hell, give us big estates and compounds that have land and opportunity to expose them to something different. Because a lot of young kids you see picking up guns now that stay paid and they commit to me, some of them committing suicide, you know, because they don't want to live, because they think that they have no hope, you know, because everything

in front of them is quitting. His failure is death. Is you know, abuse, it's trauma and generational trauma, Briggs, generational pain and that's what you see a lot of times of these kids. And that's what happens with the you know, because when he talks about his father quit, that's a pain of a man leaving you that you thought was supposed to be with you for y'all tire your life. So he can say it, and I see him when he's talking to his father, I see the

pain still live today. You know. He might try to laugh out of it, but you know, yes, like I ain't seen you in five years. I don't want going on Dad. I'm saying shout out to Dad in today. But I brought my son up here. She's done your go with my son. And the thing I was inside the other day, my son wrote me a letter when

he was flying home. He lives in London, and he wrote me a letter said they he's proud of me and that he loves me, and he didn't he read my book but the first time, and he's like, yo, Dad, I didn't know you went through that. I just thought it was like rich our whole life and it's all like I'm like because and he wrote me that I read the letter to the brothers in the side and I cried as I read it. I'm like, dude, it

took me fourteen years to get this breakthrough. You gotta hold your line, man, I said, I couldn't go against the family. I had to put up with some stuff that I knew I was right on. Then I knew I could speak to but he's twelve, he's eight. He can't understand. So I did take it on the chin and just wait for my victory. And my victory came last Monday, and I told him, I say, it took me fourteen years to get to that point when my son said, Dad, Dad, I love you and I'm proud

of you. Not get it. Was there a reason why you didn't tell him before him? You know, you go through stuff and you don't want to ever confuse an eight year old by telling him, Okay, you were told this, but it's really that you were told that, because it's just gonna do more harm than good. So I said, no,

something I gotta take that. I'm the man. I gotta just take it on the chin and the interests of his mental health and well being and just be the bad guy for a little while, or let that story float for a little while, because the day's gonna come. I don't have to be right today when he's seven. I don't have to be right today when he's twelve. If I want him to be long term healthy, I gotta take this. I gotta carry this because I'm his dad,

and he made it through and I got my victory. KA. When you talk about the main things to try to keep people out of prison, period, right, I want you to also look back in retrospect. Are there things that you feel like could have helped you so that you didn't go to prison? Because I think there's a lot of people who are struggling but their own kids right now that are like I don't know what to do. I can see the path that my child is headed

on and I don't know how to help. First thing for parents, asks for help, I mean, don't be overwhelmed, don't be embarrassed. That's one of the biggest things I run into because I work with white parents, Spanish parents, Black parents, and they're scared, they're embarrassed. Asks for help

like I can't control or govern my own child. And for people who want to be helpful, this every gang member, every criminal, every whoever drug deal or drug addict is sitting right now and a K one he's seven years old with dirty socks and he looks is he messed up? If you go give him a sandwich and a hug and some clean socks into whatever you ask me to do. Kids right now and K wanted just looking for love and look for something to eat, and they're not getting it.

It's not to the eighteen years old and the gut in their hand. Then we come in. But you need to go down to the K one in K twos and get them before they turn because they're sitting there right now and everybody's ignoring them. Do you think when he said the thing about being right right? Do parents? I never gave birth to any kids. I got a thousand of them though, right. Parents have to be their

child's parents. Too. Many parents want to be their child's friend, want to be the homie, want to hang out with their kids, weed with their kids, you know, and you have to understand the impression that you're putting up on that child. You're putting too much burden and responsibility on a child to understand and navigate adulthood, you know, without guidance and supervision and rules and regulations, and then when they get into a situation, then they stopped and you're like,

why why you why? Why? No? This came into being, It didn't just happen today. And so then and and and oppression brings that I don't want to, you know, make it like our community is guided towards failure. It's

guided towards a mindset of of mediocrity, of ignorance. You know. Um, I heard y'all talking about that brother when I was walking in here, and um, there was a whole conversation for the last couple of weeks about whack one hundred and six nine right, And many people got into that conversation. And I said to one of those people who got into the conversation, I said, if a police walked up to you and said those same words or called you out of your name, are you gonna respond to them?

And they were like no, I said, so, why are you responding to a police out of uniform? I said, a lot of things are set up in our community and our culture to take us off our square, get distracted from what we're supposed to do and get victimized. Right. One way or another people could get into a fight, get shot and kill. I'm from Jamaica, Queens. I know what happened when Rick Ross and fifty cent had a beef. I know what happened when Jah Rule and fifty cent

had a beef. I know what happened in our community. A lot of times when different people have beefs, it trickles down to neighborhoods, right, and people don't see that. They don't see that, right, And so I know it's a long thing. But the avenue is we gotta take care of our kids. We gotta take care and we gotta ask for help. We gotta support help. I don't do this because I'm trying to be famous. I'm not

doing it for money. If I was, they he people tell me all the time, I'm stupid, right because I could be making money, I could be what it's ever famous, you know whatever? That is, right, But that's not my

intention or my purpose here in this world. It is to give the tools to the people and connect people so that you have an opportunity that you thought and break this system down because it is killing us mentally and emotionally more than anything else, you know, and our kids can't deal with the mental destruction, right, they can't deal with it. So when you talk about trauma and get help, they don't even know how to get help. And so they're getting help smoking a blood, drinking whatever

it is they drink, popping pills. And then you gotta everybody gotta gun now. It's a system that's set up for us to fail, and it's got to be so many other ways for us to do it. It's gonna take Biden and Congress to vote for the infrastructure bill, vote for the reconstruction bill, and really support the five billion dollars so that we can give people the tools that they need to do this work and change your lives. Well, give them the website so they can, you know, look

it up, look up more information. Look the website is Andre Norman dot com. Okay, um, Erica Ford, Andre Norman. It's the Breakfast Club. Go Morning, the Breakfast Club. Your morning's will never be the same. Hey, what up? Y'alla's dj envy here? Listen? Mediocre phones are out. The new Samson Galaxy z Flip three five G is in. It folds clothes and fits in your palm and even better to stand up on its own for hands free selfies, group shots and videos. So cool. Shop now at Samson

dot com. Five G connection availability may vary. Check with carrier. So Breakfast Club, your morning's will never be the same morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us this morning. We have Tamla and David Man. Welcome. Thank you, thank you for having Well, I'm trying. That ain't the problem. The problem is keeping it all. That's the problem. Yeah, that's the fact. Trust me so much.

Said you lost like dirty. Yeah, I'm just trying to watch my did, trying to do right, trying to do a little something. And y'all both on this journey together, yeah, which I think it's helpful. Hey, we've been tracking a long time thirty three years, so we're trying to keep up with each other. Now. Listen this new album, Overcomer. It's very inspiring. And I do love the sogn that you have a white cleft and Kirk Franklin because you know, as I got a little Caribbean vibe. Hello God. Yes,

I think it was really fun putting it together. We had the course of Covid and everything. We had to do it separately till Covid to go to Hell and Kirk Kirk did ours together because we're both in the same city, right man. We did it at his studio and then walk Cliffs send his stuff and it was just amazing how it happened. Though it's my fun song. It's just saying hello, God, just wake up in the morning. Just give thanks this, thank God for another that drive

to work in the morning. Yes, just as good wake up song, good, wake up, great wake up man. And let me ask you this what kind So Okay, I was talking about Kanye's new album Donda, and I do like like the facts that his songs have these I like the songs that I'm more like religious that are on his album, like more had that kind of failed to it, you know what I mean, Like they felt spiritual. Have you listened to it? Because I haven't. I haven't had a chance to hear the new one. I haven't

had a chance. But I was reading the reviews and I was like, oh yeah, some of the reviews came from up here. I haven't had a chance to hear any of it yet. But you know, if I feel like if we're spreading the good news and you know you're trying to inspire and uplift people and give people hope. To me, that's what gospel music it's about. It's about the good news, bringing good news and just encouraging people. Right now, all of us need some type of encouragement.

That's why we did the album Overcomer, just to let people know that we can overcome whatever obstacles that we're going through, because all of us are dealing with something and we need help through something, help with something, and just just I'm just sending people as an encourager that God is my source, He's my help and that that's

how I get through things. It is what God. Let me ask your question and not talk about Kanye, but what do you feel like when you see pastors or musicians or artists where they speak the good word and they speak it, but then when you see their life, they don't live it because the gift comes without repentance.

That's what the scripture says. So, I mean, sometimes some people are very good at what they do what they do, and they the thing about it is they may be able to help somebody out of what they're dealing with help themselves and can't help themselves. And I think what they need, like what we all need, is grace and more grace because I think sometimes we put people on a pedestal and say you mess up. You know that, that's it. And I think we have to start showing

more grace to each other. That's what we have to do. More, love more. I've decided in the last two years what COVID has taught me is to love more and judge less. Okay, So if I'm doing that, I'm going to say, Okay, bro, I understand, you made a mistake, You're not perfect, let's pray, let's restore, and let's move on. But if they don't feel like they made a mistake, then you got then they have another. Then they have then that's out of

our hands. Because all we have to do is just again, like just like our kids, we try to be the best example that you can for your kids, your grandkids or just people watching you guys, just like with this, it's like you're not gonna do everything right. Everybody's not gonna like everything you say. They're not gonna like everything that we do. But all we can do is just be the best example that we can be Do you call people out on their bullets? Though, yes I would,

Yes he did. But if it's not good, he'll say, it's not that you need to sometimes because I think people need to know the truth because a lot of times the people around you are there for different reasons. You know. Now, what I'm learning to do is temper how I say it now, because see me, I say I'm learning. Yes, I'm learning, because sometimes it's not it's how we say it. It's not what what you're saying is probably really good and me and sounds good, but

how we say it don't come out the right. Probably what you're saying is right, but you're probably just putting a little on it to make it feel. But I think you cannot help. I think you can't let people just get get by with just doing foolishness, right, Yeah, because we have to say when we're in the studio, if it sucks and it's terrible, tell me in here where we only laugh. Don't get outside the door where

millions of people here. And then you say, I told you I started to say something, you should have said something, no, And I got you know, And that's one thing I love about my wife. Sometimes it's too too honest, brutally your wife and your husband's the one that could stab you, and you know it really brutal, brutally. We got thirty three years O. Yes, but I got friends and sometimes they're so honest you get so mad, but then you realize it. Have a friend Tina, she works the death

gym right now. She calls me every morning and she tells me some always she'll tell she'll leave with negative and then and with positive. Right, But it's all some bullish right, yeah, But you know she loves you because she's taking from a good place, you know, And and that's it's that's hard to receive some and you have to be able to trust the person. That has to be people that you genuinely trust, somebody that has your best entry, somebody that has your heart. And you know,

you're not just telling me this just to tep. You're telling me to help me and guide me on the right path. But you also have to know that people have their own things that they're dealing with that we may have no idea about from the outside looking in, so things can appear away. But I think we do have to be more empathetic to people, especially during this time. Even if we're talking about her new project, people don't know that this project was a journey. Yes, it was

a full journey. Like people don't understand the behind the scenes stuff that was going on with her, like with the pain I was like dealing with with my knees, like working doing the plays, doing all the television stuff and studio, and then I wound up doing double knee replacement because it got that bad. And that does how painful was that? Because that feels like it was very painful. At first I was it's like, okay, I'm just gonna

do one. Then I was like, no, I'm gonna go ahead and do both so I won't have to take off work another six months, you know, so let's kill it. Man. My doctor was like, I believe you at a good age where you can handle dealing with and working through both. And but it was a lot of pain. I cried. We did some social media stuff. I was like, and in between that, trying to walk, trying to figure out how to walk, going to I had to get up this test show in Sickness and in health in yours.

I was like, I got a new He said, you acting like a new born because I would wake up in the night it was like, come on, I want to walk. I want to just get up and just move around. Bottom line, thank God for good health being around you, especially with that type of surgery. You gotta have somebody there to help you. And then in the middle of that, you know, you got a pandemic and

then Mama's dealing with yes and listen. I love that you are so open about that, because you're right, we don't talk about that, and that I've never really heard anybody discut for people are like menching it or make a joke about it. You heard about the change, It's like you're going through the change. I was like, I heard that growing up all my life, Like what is the change? You know people think when you have your

monthly it's it's it's terrible. This is terrible because it really sends you on a roller coaster and it's like out of nowhere. It's like this morning coming I was sweating. I was like, I'm put on makeup and I'll just sweating. I was like, I'm really not hot, but you're sweating. The emotional part of it, it's crazy because I will be happy then all of a sudden. Oh it would be I'm gonna tell you how I noticed it. It was like, because she talks to me really sweet, ain't baby?

You know this is great and I love you? And then she came back from the kitchen. It's like, I'm gonna kill you tomorrow. I mean, because you can't even you know, it changes and it's like it takes something. It's like something taking over your body that you don't know that's happening. So I'm just saying for you and your wife, you know, whenever that happens, y'all be patient with each other. We have more with him and David Man. When we come back to Don't Move, it's to Breakfast Club.

Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with still kicking it with Tamla and David Man. So what's your relationship? I mean, you know, people automatically assume you do gospel music that the relationship has to be perfect. No, So what how do you say that too fast? How do you deal with problems in the relationship? Like, what is the best way that you guys deal with problems,

who runs who, who doesn't want to talk? Who likes to talk? Who like I'm not, I'm not. I'm learning to become the talker, but I have not always been the talker. I'm doing a lot better now because I know that's what he needs for me. It's for me to talk to him and let's talk through this thing. I'm like person of one or two words and then you know, I'm done with it. But I've learned to add more than just you know, figure out something else to say out. Yeah, well, I see. For me, I

do understand our relationship is not perfect. What we are, we're working progress, right, We're do an evaluation every year. We're do an evaluation like you should go, you should go and just go revisit your marriage vibe. You know. Like I say, I'm not trying to push you back to the album. But that's why this album, for both of us, it is so personal. It was the overcoming title. It really means something to us because that's a nice, powerful song. It was, but it but it is because

we all been we're doing a lot. We've been working there and it's like I want my things to change around me. But sometimes the change has to begin with you. It's okay to have a therapist, and Jesus it is okay because a lot of times we shore next step right, And you know, I'm praying. What I am praying is that the LAWD gives the doctor wisdom enough to help me. So you guys have done therapy. I have. I've done,

I've gone because I'm a lot, I'm a lot. I haven't yet, but but I really do plan on going and talking to somebody because I feel like it's just good to have another outlet. What about couple of therapy. Yeah, well, we haven't had it, no, but we've we've worked some people through it. Yes, but we sit and we talk about everything, and I mean we're the kind of people that it happens. It could be two or three o'clock

in the morning. We land in the bed and we just started having like a session, just laying there talking about it. And then there's times that we have actually prayed at that time of the morning to just really because we want our relationship to work. The voice is not an option. We both put that out there that we're gonna work through whatever we we're dealing with. And what was the the toughest song for me would have been overcoming was a because it was a whole different

vibe from me. Wow. And it was because it was like, to me, it's more hip hop, rocket sh you you beau, but it's like, after like sitting and listening to it,

it was like, I'm not I'm gonna conquer this. So that that and Hello God to me because they were toldly different, stayed away from the vibe you know, the ballots that I'm used to, that people used to hearing from me, and that that's what I'm trying to get people to understand, is to hear me and another like give me an opportunity, to give me a chance to just even for you to hear what I'm saying. You know, I know it's a God is my faith? Is it? Yes,

it's all about my faith. But the songs that we're singing or stuff that can really help you get through something, you think it I thought, I no, because he did it for me as a ballot. The reason if he did it for me for me on the album is I had a lot of people come to me and well, actually my radio guy came back to me after I did an interview with someone and they was like, well,

why is everything coming to her? And it really pricked me because you know, I grew up really poor and it's like I know what it means not to have and you know, to go through without things. And I was like, the stuff that's happened for me, you know, was the favor. I believe it was favor of God that happened for me. And God did it like to

go work with Tyler Perry You didn't have money like that? No, No, we were scratching with I mean when we first met Tyler David, actually I didn't meet David Flew admit him with freaking fly my frequent flyer. I wanted it that bad to go, let's figure this out and I used my freaking flyer mouse. So you know that the song he did it for me is just it's just the testimony like, hey, you guys didn't see this through. Yeah, what we went through in the beginning and now you

know you could see it now. So it didn't come easy. Don't discount it. You know that we're here. We had to go through some truck, some struggles and you know trial, Yeah, everything's not perfect, right, So was there ever a time in your marriage, what like, what would you say was the toughest period for you guys to get through? My six year of marriage. I'll never forget it, all right, We was having some you know, some rough rough patch and I kept you know, you know, your first years

of marriage. You always said, especially for women, we always say I'm leaving, I'm taking my kids and I'm gonna mind you, that's one of my biggest fears. I'm taking I'm taking my kids and I'm going to my mama. In the you know, some things, you know, kept happening, and you know it's just, you know, just disagreements. Because the thing about us, honestly, y'all not to make a perfect picture here, but we've had more happy days and said days we don't have them. An argument. Our arguments

came from that time of the month. Honestly, that's when we was the real thing. That's when we spatted, you know, or argued. So we had an argument and I was, you know, I was mad, and I was like, I'm going and I'm going to take the kids. Now. She said, I'm gonna take my kids and I'm going. So this time, my kids my bedroom. Because you did, because you did y'all did help get the kids to you, but let the kids. Y'all got to do the fine part to bring the kids here, and then she did all the

work well afterwards, she got the baby here. But I can I honestly don't need it. One left me take care of because I can throw the baby up, change the path before and hit the ground. But I but I I try to try. I had to get that one up that didn't last. But I tried to do that. But I told him that I was gonna leave. He said, you say that one more time. I'm gonna pack your

stuff up and take you to your mama. Yeah. I looked at him, and I thought about where my mama lived and where I lived, and she lived in a one bedroom house at the time, and I was like, where are me and my kids gonna sleep? My kids? But I'm just saying that's where he asked. But that was really the roughest thing. And after he told me that, y'all ain't said that the moment. So if we didn't let that break us up early in our marriage, we

wouldn't be here living the dreamy y'all figured out your purpose? Yes, I do, and I think it really is. I keep saying it, but we are sent here to be I know that I'm an encourager bottom line. I mean, even before all of this. And a friend of mine text me the other day, guys, and she was saying, you remember when we used to go we had this restaurant

called Punchos. We really wasn't making a whole lot of money, but we were always trying to help somebody, even before all of this, And she said, you remember, y'all used to take me and my kids out and we was having problems when I was having problems in my marriage and y'all was there for us. And I just kind of got teary I had and I was like, man, I was like, I was like, babe because I called him bad. I was like, Babe, we was trying to

help people when we didn't have nothing. And I believe that's why God has shown us favor and he did it for us, you know, and so we'll still be able to help other people. I think for me, it's to bring Jordan people. I make people laugh, and once I realized I'm annoying it to make people laugh, I'm annoying it to bring Jordan people. That's my purpose, it's to uplift people, and that's that's what we're here to do.

That's what that's what this comedy and music. It just works in a different place to me because it really does bring a lot of joy to people. David and Tammela Man, it's the Breakfast Club morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee. Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club Now, Charlomagne, you've got a positive note. Listen to positive note. It's simply this, be with someone that's good for your mental health, someone who brings you in a piece, someone who challenges

your bad habits which supports your process a change. Breakfast Club, y'all, finish it, y'all dumb,