Be a Honest Sinner than Lying Hypocrit

morning in a day. Want to hear that breakfast the world's most dangerous morning showing the mother Hey money Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Good morning, Chalomagne, Good morning Angela, yee bea to the planet is Tuesday? What's happening on Tuesday? What a tooth? They just started with what happened? What I miss? Now? You know, I've been doing some work on this house I bought, and

it's just been a lot of drama. That's all that I've been dealing with. It's a it's a little overwhelming. It's get sure you have the right permits, and then the neighbors are calling the Department of Buildings, all kinds of stuff. Well, you gotta look on the bright side, right, it's a good problem to have. You know, you got a new crib not yet, I mean, yeah, I do. It's just stressful. It's just stressful or as you would say,

stressful stressful with a k Okay. Good morning everybody. Um, we're here to present another great edition of The Breakfast Club too you hopefully we have a one of my favorite authors on this morning. Um. I've read everything that he's put out, you know, the Artist Eduction, the thirty three Strategies Award, the Law of Human Nature, and Mastery, the fiftieth for Law, and of course the forty eight Laws of Power, just to name a few. Mister Robert

Greene will be joining us this morning. Yes, indeed, I don't even know read almost all of those. But Mastery. I actually really enjoy Mastery, and I quote that book all the time, just because I feel like sometimes people think success can come over night, but they don't understand if you want to be amazing at something, you do have to master it. Yeah. I've always wondered if Outliers

influenced The Mastery. Michael Gladwell's outlines influenced the mastery because it's the whole, you know, the outlines of the ten thousand and hour theory. Mastery is more like, you know, twenty thousand, just an unlimited amount of hours. Just put the work into the craft. Man. Somebody just walked in looking like they used to date John Travolta in Greece. You like a little pink pool. Can you see what this guy is wearing? You ever see one of the

pink ladies? Yeah, I'm forty two years old. I remember the pink ladies from Greece. You don't look like does he not look like one of the pink ladies? He can? She could see me? God shout the currency currency sent me some jack some clothes. So this is his jet life up stuff. Currency meant to sitting there for your wife. Man, yours is black or blue or something? I know, make it weir pink? What's wrong with you? They can? But you look stupid. It's your feet, know what it is?

It's the fact that you bage with the pink. It was color contrast is like a lot of fact. Drama's hat matches my outfit. Look at Drama's hot. Hey man, I'm not knocking your brother. I'm just telling you. Anybody who can't see these guys, just know that every time I look at djn V, I get angry. Why because I let him borrow my headphones one day and he's just kept and it was years ago after year, it's not yours anymore. I don't know if you know that.

And then he refuses to give them back. And then there's days I come in and I don't have headphones and he's sitting there nice and snug with my headphones on hers. Yes, you know that it has a nice watermelon sticker on it. That's how you know it's mad. I think that's your jacket to you. I just want to know what pink lady NV is. Are you Rizzle or you Jan? Are you Marty, Frenchy Sandy? I'm calling you. I would say, Frenchy, your French shout the camera, shout

the Jim Joe shot. You want to bring out the people in this Okay, kill some dip set music on right now? Want pink? In decades, he won't pick the other day. You gotta pink call what are you talking about? Day? It look better on him than do you. You look like frenchie bro. I'm telling you, I don't even know who French is. We don't worry. Somebody gonna photoshop you in with the Pink Ladies before the show is over. They got set. That's wish my goodness. Let's stalk the

show man alright, front page news. What we're talking about, Well, it's unfortunate and tragic. We have to start with this, a mass shooting that took place at a grocery store in Colorado. Ten people dead. Everybody back in quarantine cause I ain't used to hear none of this stuff on quarantine was going on. Let's get back in quarantine. If this is what we're about to do, oh there we go. Turn it up in the ball bully, Yo, Dan, get one of the Pink Ladies songs from Greece, so it's

more fitting. D. We'll be back from grief morning. Everybody is cdj Envy, Angel Ye, Charlomagne, the guy, we are the breakfast club, Good morning, good morning. Ain't sent you a video? Who take it out? When you get a minute, listen. I don't want to see you performing any Pink Lady songs. All right, just just watch and you're Gonnam the code off. It's hot the cody. What really made you a pink lady? Damn goodness crazy? All right, well, let's get into froot

page news. Where are we starting you, Well, we have some really sad news to start with. Ten people were killed after a gunman opened fire and a grocery store in Boulder, Colorado. This was at a King Supers that's owned by Kroger's Supermarket, and a suspect is in custody, according to Boulder Police Chief Maris Harold. Authorities did not share any information on his identity or the type of weapon, but they did say one authority told CNN that it

was aar fifteen. They said they are working around the clock to get all this accomplished. And one police officer was slain, fifty one year old Eric Talley. He was one of the first officers to respond to the scene. He had joined the Boulder Police Force back in two ten. They did not disclose the identity of any of the other victims. Now. One person did speak to Aaron Burnett on CNN, Ryan Borowski. He said he was shopping at

the store when he heard the first shots. Listen to Ryan's account, when we ran out the back door We were all single file, and I had my hand on one person's back and another person had their hand on my back. We weren't tripping on each other, and nobody fell down. When we got to the back of the house. There were some people who started to run into like a pantry or some sort of storage area and a dead end, and employees made sure to show them the way out. I just threw my groceries on a shelf

and took off from my life. Do we ever get a break in America? They always something like Jesus, Like last year during the pandemic, you know, I didn't hear about a lot of mass shootings, you know what I mean? So I guess now did everybody you know back outside? A lot of people people back actively doing this type of stuff, Like come on, and this is the seventh mass shooting in the United States in the past seven days. And here's what else Ryan Borowski had to say about

not feeling safe. It doesn't feel like there's anywhere safe anymore sometimes, And this feels like the safest spot in America. And I just nearly got killed forgetting a soda, you know, and a bag of chips. Wow, do we have a motive. No, no motive yet. Did they get the guy? They caught the guy? Yeah, yes, they have him in custody, always in custody. They didn't kill him. It must be white white man, yes, of course, look like a white man. Okay,

all right, well that is your front page news. All right, get it off your chests. Eight hundred five a five one oh five one. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Maybe your co worker is a bully in you because you world a little pink. I don't know what it may be, Beauty dy five, I'm telling what's doing of yo. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred five eight five one five one. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's

this Mike? Mike? What's something? Man? Get it off your chest? Mike. My girl looked my goose. Girl looked your boots or your booty or your goose or Marrio. I liked it. What is happening? Let me put on the line. Put on the line. She's getting off of the car and not get scared. Nah, don't look, don't get scared. She got up in that thing. Man, congratulations, can't round of applause to you. I'm happy for you, man, I'm for you. You need to buy her something today. What you get

off work, don't buy her Bentley and nothing. But you need to buy something. Swarm bro, I'm about to go get it on somebody right now. That's don't feel bad about that, brother, that gooch. That gooch. That gooch is good feeling. But yeah, you need to buy something. Brother, We're not joking. Buy something. Tell you love them? All right? God? Hello, who's this from Detroit? Man? I need to vent real quick. I'm extremely blessed, got a good job, good wife, and

good family, all that good stuff. But it was just brought to my attention. The post Office has just approved fifteen weeks of one hundred percent pay for people to take off. But they will not reward the people who come to work. I haven't taken off the day since all this kicked off. Not wow, damn. But they will not reward the people who come to work every day like we supposed to. But they want to keep giving people excuses and reason to take off. Now. Granted, some

people need it, but everybody don't. Yeah. I heard a lot of businesses are if you have to go take a COVID test, they're giving you like a half a day to go get tested. I heard a lot of people are really taking advantage of that. Not our job. They did bring the test to you. They they ain't give you nothing off. And another thing. Man. So when it was the election time, we had everybody talking about the post office, Rashida to Lead, Gary Peters, Brenda Lords.

We don't hear nothing no more. Now that they got their little seats and they re elected, we don't hear nothing no more about the post office. Man. Right, we're ridiculous. You're right about that. I will say this though, I feel like you should take some time off and over time is ridiculous. Pay okay, but don't worry about anybody. Keep getting that, man. But you still gotta have self care, oh brother. Self care is very important for your mental

and emotional health. Man. You're absolutely right, no question about it. But I sleep good knowing that I'm putting dollars in the bank. But still we should be rewarded for coming to work. Man. This is the breakfast club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man than from you on the breakfast club, but you got something on your mind? Hello? Who's this? Yes? Right here? I was called to speaking to envies. Helly, sir, good morning. How are you doing at me? I just wanted to

call you, man. I tend to two of your seminars, and UM, I created my LLC. I went through Joe the credit dude, and he's working on my credit right now. And I actually have a property and I don't really care about the radio, man, I just I just wanted I'm just the only one way I can get in touch with you as far as contractors for a property that I have, and I have I have some liquid

that I can um invest into his property. So I just need your help as far as contract But it's the property at bro and the credit dude name is Jose Now not Joe, his name is Jose. Oh that's his brother Joe. Sorry, I'm sorry. You're right. That was a brother Joe. But where is the um the property? It's a new it's a new in New Jersey. It's a new in New Jersey. And um, I just need your help, man, I really need to have. I tried

to reach out to Lucie Reynolds. I tried to reach out to a bunch of other people um from the program. But my only last option was to call on the radio. All right, just hold on. Give you're a list of like four or five contractors. You call them all, you make them all come to the property, and then you get the best price and the best feeling and the best work. You know, when whenever you do a try, you get a couple of people to come in to give you that quote, because you never know who's trying

to get over on you. You never know who's missing something, and you know it's the same. Like, you get a couple of people who do the quote, and then somebody you can trust. I read what these are gonna be the reliable. These are your reliable guys right here. Yeah, I call I call a couple of people when I do work. Like even when I have a plumber come, I call it two or three plumbers. When I have an electrician, I call two three electricians, just to make

sure that I'm getting the right price. Because people will try to overprice you. It doesn't matter who you are, where you live. They will try to get you if they can. But hold on, I get you some numbers, right brood, Thank you I'm we're still on the phone right now. All right, hold on, hello, who's this? What's up? Trav Traf? Hey Bell? What's my star pieces? How are you? I'm doing good? Listen man, I hate to do this to my guy, but I talk about that little real

quick man. What happened? He set you up? I don't like I'm a little lie last week? What are you lied about singing to you? When y'all playing the video and him singing and be asked him a clear question and say that's the video you saying, trams and it because saying no lying, yeah, like don't be lying like something like he wan't nothing heard about it? That's the video you say, oh yeah, he attracted to you, tray, because there's no reason to lie about that if he

not attracted you. And so I gotta I gotta know he's gotta check this to me. But look, so I gotta do actually say that the all that he was singing, and you said, that's the song that everybody has to go to the song you actually right, I know everybody just singing that song and it is to go either that one or don Nel Jones. It was I played you saying but don't be lying. All right, track tell us when you hit all right? The IDA weren't everybody? Hello?

Who's this yo? This is tid. I'm calling you from Cleveland. Try what I'm getting off your chest? Are you feeling Charlotte Magne in pretty thing or your thing? Hey? Listening little mama. Little Mama is making the case that I think should be talked about in the public sector about heterosexual rights movement. Although I don't support her fully in part, she does talk about some things that I think people should be looking as seriously, such as the actual value

of evidence and proof, and you know that. Whereas I don't think it's technically wrong or morally wrong for somebody to mask their gender, I do think and I know that it is completely wrong to be forced to accept somebody's haven't changed their gender when humans cellular biology says that you have not and cannot accomplish that. I'm not a Christian. I know the pursuit of Christianity very well.

I don't think somebody should be pressured into trying to marry two men or two women if you're a Christian minister and have to face a whole bunch of controversy because it's so far left of what you're doctrine teachers, and in the taxpayer funding neighbor public schools where they teaching history, writing, mathematics, arithmetic, please teach civics and biology and chemistry. They don't necessarily need to have to be teaching m about homosexual relationships any more than you need

to be teaching about head king, King, King King. I'm gonna tell you something. I have no idea what you're talking about. Oh, Mama, are you aware heterosexual rights movement? Heterosexual rights movement. Yeah, spend some time with it. Maybe could be a topic for your show later next week or something. Maybe you could get wrong and me you kind of be able to follow better what I'm saying. Yeah, I think she was saying. I think she was saying something.

Part of it was she didn't she didn't want to see uh, any type of relationship or television, not heterosexual relationships all the time. Yeah, I think she was just saying any of it. Yeah, she says she didn't want to see any of it because it doesn't allow kids to make up their own mind, because they can be you know, uh, impressionable. I said, I'm not with her in total, but she is onto something to such a degree that they're actually, why are we talking about this

so long? Because it becomes the part of the social conversation with you actually talk about on your broadcast. But I gotta know what I'm talking about. I don't have no idea what you're talking about. We'll pick it up, pick it up. Since the time with it, wrestle with it. You work for drama show because dramas hangs up on anybody else him and envy. But today, for whatever reason, they just He's like, what do we talk all of that?

We act like we got so much time here on this show, like that's what we jove to talk about for two to three minutes. The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is DJ M V Angela Ye, Charlomagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors to talk NBA Young Boy, It's about time report with Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. NBA Young Boy is an FBI custody lap. The cops did pull him over and they tracked him down when he tried to flee the scene.

According to TMZ, they said that he has an outstanding federal warrant and that set off a pursuit, and once the car stopped, they said NBA Young Boy then ran on foot, and the cops set up a perimeter. They bought in a canine to helped find him, and the police dog did not bite him, but they did sniff him out and find him. All right. For one am shocked by these developments. There's nothing about NBA Young Boy that makes me believe he would be a prime candidate

for jail. Why would the police ever be looking for him? He seemed so pleasant? Yeah, but what did he do with where he had a warrant? Do we know what the warrant was? The outstanding federal warrant? Listen, I don't know, but all I know is they found a firearm in the vehicle. They said, they're unclear if that belongs to him as of now. I know before he had gotten stopped and they found some guns, but he said none of them were his. So I want to know where

he was running. You are NBA young Boy, You do know that, right? I think that's the first reaction is just a run, you know. I mean, I'm surboused to dog didn't bite him. My first reaction wouldn't be the one if I was a rapper making millions of dollars. Okay, No, if he had a warrant, you might. I don't know if he know, if he had award or that. I think I thought he was running because there was guns in the car. But my point with that is somebody else you're to be claiming those guns because I am

NBA young boy. Yeah, I mean sometimes you just want to I don't know. I guess probably for a lot of people, your first reaction is to get out of there. No, no, m Yeah. The federal investigation is after he got arrested for drug and firearm charges after police responded to reports of a large group of people brandishing weapons while filming a music video. I am shocked, and he said none of them belonged to him. All right. Now, Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has sold the NFT of his first tweet

for two point nine million dollars. Remember we were talking about these NFTs and he announced the digital auction for the post. It was the first ever tweet that was sent out fifteen years ago. And yes, two point nine million dollars is how much that went for. Yeah, I totally understand the NFTs now, Jim Jones put us on. He was on the Breakfast Club last week, and you know, I've had other people on my team talk to me

about it, so I totally understand what it is. I just don't understand why people would pay that much, right, that much money, that kind of stuff. But he shut up. Let me shut up, right, because I actually a digital footprint out there. I'm gonna find me something to sell. I learned it about a while ago because one of my friends who's an artist, was selling some of his artwork and he was explaining to me how it worked, and he was like, listen, you could be doing this.

You could be doing pieces of interviews and selling those music videos whatever. People can do that all right, And assigned jay Z trading cards so for a record breaking price, and that was one hundred and five thousand, seven hundred and eighty dollars. It's a one of one card. Or Initially it was lingering around two thousand dollars on the online auction site. Then one buyer started heating it up and it ended up going for one hundred and five

thousand dollars. They said, that's an all time record for any non sports TCG card. Question, that's BEAUTIFU by the way, But does Jack's tweet appreciate with value? Will it be worth more in the future. We don't know what's going to happen with these NFTs, But what I do know is that with NFTs, if somebody else who ever bought it, sells it, the original person still gets a piece of that. So as much as people trade it and sell it, it's still the original owner will still get a percentage.

So the more people that sell it and traded and all of that, you get a little more money because as an owner, because I can understand why that tweet would have value. Is that the first tweet ever? Because that is, Yeah, but it's a first tweet ever, right, a copy of the tweet? Right, Yeah, it's a digital it's a digital. Yeah, it's digital. It's all digital. All

these things NFTs are digital copies. Nick said, it's not, but it's the first tweet ever, right, like ever because Jack runs Twitter, so yeah, boy, he said, anybody can see it. Anybody can copy it, So yeah, anybody can see it. But it's many, but it gives you a digital certificate of authenticity, so it confirms that it's real. It's one of a kind. Nobody else will have it, and it's the only one I just want to know that appreciate with about you. That's a all right, Well

that is your rumor report. Cash. You can never tell it something appreciates. I mean, that's just up in the air. Just like when you buy art, you don't know if it's gonna appreciate or not. Some art you can you know if it's gonna appreciate, just like some vehicles. You know it's gonna appreciate. But I'm just curious about what happens, you know, because right now it's a fat right. Everybody wants to do it. But let's say people say, you know what, I don't like this anymore. Let's get some

money now and figure all that out later. What you want to put He got his breakfast We got a bunch of post first breakfast club promos we've ever done. Our heart's gonna be like we shot those on our own, on our own, buddy. Okay, that was hard. That was hard time, Sorry, buddy, that's what I hard. Didn't believe it is a fact. All right, that's your remember report,

all right, Front page news. Next. What we're talking about, man, some more drama that happened, and Miami Beach over spring break will tell you what unfortunate incidents happened, and of course we'll give you an update on what happened in Boulder, Colorado. All right, we'll get to that. Nextus to Breakfast Club. Good morning, So Breakfast Club, your mornings will never be the same. All Hail the Queen. Academy Award nominee Cynthia Rivo stars as Aretha Franklin in Genius Aretha, the Emmy

winning series from National Geographic. Find out how the Queen of Soul earned her crown in Genius Aretha. The fort night event Premier's Sunday at nine eighth Central on National Geographic Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. Let's getting some front page news. Where we starting you? Well, let's first go to Miami beat. Now, two men who are spring Breakers from Greensboro, North Carolina

that we're visiting South Beach have been arrested. They've been accused of drugging and raping a woman who later on died in her hotel room. The men Evar Collier, who's twenty one, and Dorian Taylor, twenty four, are also accused of stealing her credit cards to spend money on their trip in South Beach. So the arrest comes, as you know, it's been a bit of a mess out there in

Miami Beach. And they said they could be charged with burglary with battery, sexual battery, petty theft, and the fraudulent use of a credit card. If the drug that they gave her has proven to have played a role in her death, they could also potentially face a manslaughter or murder charge. The woman was a twenty four year old visiting from Pennsylvania. She was staying at the Albion Hotel.

Now what happened was this, They met her at a restaurant, according to what the mental detectives, and they said that they gave her a green pill. They believed it was percocet, and now they've sent that to the lab. They don't know if it was fetanol or some other narcotic. And they say they planned to have sex with the victim and walking into the hotel, they said the woman was staggering that they had to hold her up as they walked into the elevator, holding her from behind, holding her

by the neck so that she could stand. Once at the hotel, they each had sex with her, and at one point they said you could he forced himself on her as she appeared to be unconscious, and then when it came clear that she was unconscious, they stole her cash or credit cards and her phone and left her in the room without any concern for her welfare or safety. They then used the stolen credit card at various locations in Miami Beach, and they were caught on video surveillance

actually using her credit card. Yeah, they're gonna wake up in a prison ten years from now kicking themselves thinking about that stupid ass choice they made to go down the South Beach and do that to a young lady. But yeah, they deserve life, they absolutely for a long time. You drug that woman, you rape that funny for a year old woman, Just leave her there to die by her and still her credit cards and her South Build

credit cards and cash and use them. Discussing disregard for a woman's life, all right now, Ten people, there's no good news this morning. Ten people, including a police officer, were killed Monday. A gunman opened fire and a grocery store in Boulder, Colorado, and that was at a King's super store. The suspect is in custody of to Boulder Police Chief Maris Harold. They but he said his name. They haven't released his identity or the type of weapon.

But what we are hearing is that it wasn't aar fifteen. Now they said the slain officer is fifty one year old Eric Talley. They haven't released the names of the other victims as they're contacting the families, but they said Eric Talley was one of the first officers to respond to the scene and he had joined the Boulder Police Force back in two ten. So really a sad situation and our condolences to all of the families who are affected by this. We play we play some bets on

the game of guests. What race It is the fact that they haven't released his name, but ten people shot at ten people day, which one was the ten people killed? Ten people killed, but they haven't released his name. I'm saying white male for five hundred dollars now. Ryan Borowski was shopping at the store and he first heard the shots and he said, by the third shot, everybody was running.

Here's what he told Aaron Burnett on CNN When we ran out the back door, we were all single file, and I had my hand on one person's back and another person had their hand on my back. We weren't tripping on each other, and nobody fell down. When we got to the back of the house, there were some people who started to run into like a pantry or some sort of storage area and a dead end, and employees made sure to show them the way out. I just threw my groceries on a shelf and took off

from my life. I know one thing. If that was a black man, Latino Muslim who was in custody and who was the suspect. We didn't know his name, his background, what he'd got in trouble for in eighth grade. By now, they haven't re released his dude's name. And I told you guys, this is the seventh mass shooting in the US in the past seven days. So where was the other six? Um? Of course, you know Atlanta stocked in California.

This was on March seventeenth. Five people who were preparing a vigil there were shot in a drive by shooting Gresham, Oregon. Four victims taken to the hospital after a shooting in the city East of Portland. Houston March twentieth five people shot after a disturbance inside of a club. One is in critical condition after being shot in the neck. The rest are in stable condition. Dallas, March twentieth eight people

shot by an unknown assailant, one of whom died. Philadelphia, March twentieth one person killed in another five injure during a shooting at an illegal party that they were at least one hundred and fifty people at. And this in Boulder, Colorado. American never get some break, we gotta go back and quarantine. I missed. I'm still I'm sorry. I'm still stuck on the girl from Pennsylvania that went out to spring Break and two brothers daughter was a great idea to hey,

let's drugger and raper and steal her ish. Like, you know, that's a tough one because you know we both have daughters, you know, And it's gonna get to a point where I want to say, hey, Dad, I want to go somewhere. I want to go out, And it's like I don't even want my daughter to go to the mall. I don't even want to go to the Jersey Shore. Yeah, but guess what you can go to that mall and didn't get shot by a mass shooter. But the suit I was at a suit and this was at a superman. Oh,

this is bad, man. Pick your trauma, all right, man, you're chicking out the world's most dangerous morning show. If you have, it's the world most dangerous morning show. To Breakfast Club Charlomagne the god angela ye Envy had to step out. But man, we have one of my favorite authors on I've read I think pretty much everything he's written, Artist Duction and thirty two Strategies of War, Mastery, the Laws of Human Nature, the fiftieth Law, and of course

the forty eight Laws of Power. Mister Robert Green is here. What's up, Robert? Oh that much? Thanks for having me, Charlotta Magnan in Good morning to you. Now, how are you further foremost? I know you had a stroke a few years ago. How are you feeling right now? I'm doing okay. I'm lucky to be alive, which is a

good thing, and you know, I'm still in therapy. I can't really walk the way I used to walk, so it's a bit frustrating, but I'm dealing with it and I'm just happy to be alive, you know what I mean. I'm also very happy that I can write another book, that I can be on your show, that I still have my most of my brain functioning, So I'm okay. I always talk to people about your book Mastery because

I think it's so important. I actually have a show I did with Facebook and it's called Mastery of Comedy and it's experienced comics that are helping out the up and coming ones. But that is basically based off of some of the ideas from your book Mastery. Oh I didn't know that. Well, that's great. You should have had me on your show. Well, it's just a little Facebook show. I always look at you, Rabbit Green, as somebody that's like, you know for that. Yeah, I'm not too big for that.

The Outliers inspired Mastery because Outliers was ten thousand hours you just expounded on the left of ours. Well, I can honestly say I haven't read Outliers, so it didn't come from Outliers. I was aware of what he said. There's actually some differences between what he wrote in that book. I respect Malcolm Gladwell a law, but when I write a book, I try not to read things that are too close to it that have come out recently, because I want my ideas to be my own a bit.

I'm a bit independent that way, so I deliberately avoided reading it, but I respect him. The ten thousand hour rule, which some people now are doubting, actually doesn't come from Malcolm Gladwell. It comes from a very famous study in the nineteen nineties. But Mastery was just sort of coming out of my own brain at a particular moment in

my life. What would you think the difference between, you know, the ten thousand hour theory and what you put in Mastery, Well, I very much believe in the ten thousand hour theory. I was trying to show what would happen to the human brain at twenty thousand hours, for instance. So Mastery the endpoint is what I call a mix of the

intuitive and the rational. You reach such a point where you probably are almost there Charlamagne, with how many podcasts done, where we have a feel for what you're doing a fingertip field, it's almost inside of it. You don't have to think anymore. So at ten thousand hours you become pretty brilliant creative in chess, in music or whatever, venture or in sports. I wanted to go to the next level.

What happens if you spend ten, fifteen, twenty years delving into something and repeating and doing it over and over again with still a lot of enthusiasm and excitement, you reach a level that's to me almost superhuman, like an Einstein, like a da Vinci. So that's that's the only difference. And it's not just a matter of accumulating ten thousand hours. That's the misconception people have because you can spend fifty years, you know, in your garage painting and you'll eventually accumulate

twenty thousand hours, but you won't be a master. You have to be. It has to be intensity, It has to be the kind of practice that you have, you know, it has to be within a certain time frame. So that's the only difference. And what I like about other things that I always use is when we talk about having your back against the war right to get out of a difficult situation, and we always need to operate

with that same type of intensity. And that's something that I tried to practice too, where when you're comfortable, sometimes you don't go so hard, but then it takes for you be in a really difficult situation for you to say, Okay, I'm at my wits end. It's either do or die right now, and that's when you really spring into action. Yeah, that's called the death ground strategy. I did that in

my thirty three Strategies of War book. I remember I was doing a book with fifty cent called The fiftieth Law, and I know I was a bit intimidated working with him, and it was the first time I'd ever worked with the so called celebrity. And the first version of the book was actually not very good. I have to be honest, and the publisher was going to cancel the project. They weren't satisfied with They were being polite, but they weren't

satisfied with it. And so we brought in somebody else as a publisher and he said, okay, Robert, you have to redo it, and I cast I decided I'm going to redo it. And basically the problem was it wasn't enough me in the book. It was too much about too much fifteen not enough for me. It needed to be a mix. And he said, all right, we'll do what you say, but you have eight months to write it. Eight months and there's no way I can write this in eight months. I've got to rethink the whole thing.

It's impossible. He said, Well, that's it. It's either that or the book is killed. And I never worked harder in my life. Ideas. It was like what you say, do it or you die. It was either finished that book or I would have failed in something, and it would have been very embarrassing. So when your back is against the wall like that, you suddenly find energy and ideas and a whole other level that you never suspect

it was inside of you. It's interesting that you said you were intimidated working with fifty on The Fifty of Law, because the book is about overcoming fear. Well that's good. Yeah, I mean I don't I don't deny that I'm human. I have fear. You know when I met fifty he was actually said later on, he was a bit intimidated by me. You know, the guy who wrote the forty

eight Laws of Power. We're now good friends, but you know, he's he's a lot more famous than I am, and I wanted the book to be something he was proud of, and that was really good. So having a level of a little bit of fear to me that level of fear where you think that your project, that your book isn't necessarily the greatest, that you have to up your game, that you have to make it better and better. That

kind of level of fear can be productive. But the other fears that we talked about in the fiftieth law are very debilitating, particularly now in the pandemic. So, you know, I want to go back to something you said about master because it's almost unfair that we age physically because you know, you really don't become a master until later

in your life, just based off experiment experience. Right. Is that why Lebron and Tom Brady are such a nomallies because they're able to anteen physically and so mentally they just massed at their craft. I think it's a combination of both. You know, you look at the two of them, and what they have in common is that they're they're incredibly incredibly good shape and it's not just working out

in their physique. They also have an incredibly good diet, right, and so they understand that you have to treat the whole body. And they're also very much into the mental aspect and keeping the mind fresh and not you know, you could get kind of boring playing basketball for so many years the same game over and over, you can get burnout. And to be at his level thirty five, thirty six years old and to still feel like a kid and be excited, that takes a lot of work.

So it's a combination of the mental and the physical as well. And it would be amazing if people in any venture sports or writing books or podcasting, if you could go on till you're eighty nine, imagine the wisdom that you would have at that point. But that's just not how we're built, you know. Yeah, how did the script change your perspective on life? Well, it's it's it's

not been easy. I must I mean, I don't want to complain because now people are going through a lot of terrible stuff, you know, with the virus and a lot of people are dying. But I was someone who was very much into you know, exercise to movement. Writing can be very stressful, and my way of distressing was taking a hike up here in Griffith Park or going swimming, or going on my mountain bike, and in doing those things,

some of my best thoughts would come to me. And I can't do any of that right, So I'm sort of trapped here in the house, and I have to learn I still can do other forms of exercise. I've had to change my whole way of thinking. But on the other hand, it's merely made me work on myself because I have you know, I have flaws as well, and some of them are my impatience, the fact that

I really need want things to happen right now. I've had to become much more patient and in a way a little more humble, you know, because I can empathize a lot with people who don't have so much control over their life, whether it's physically or financially or whatever it is. Because for a good year, I was completely dependent on people helping me just eat and do basic things. So it really kind of was a humbling experience and

I'm still dealing with it. I'm still learning from it, but it's I wish to hell it had never happened, and I often am just thinking back to just the days just before I had my stroke. My life seems so beautiful, but I didn't realize how beautiful it was. And I tell people a lot, don't take for granted the little things you have right now, because something like this happens, they could be gone and you don't realize until after it's gone. So it's been. It's been the

worst and the most powerful experience in my life so far. Wow. I want to talk to you about the law of human nature. You know, it's a great book, and you know you you talk about why people do what they do and how you can use both your own psychological flaws and those of others to your advantage at work and relationships in life. How much does technology influence the

laws of human nature? Because to your point, I think people wake up nowadays and they get online social media to even know what to think, to even know what to feel. I don't even think people's natural thoughts of their own. They don't, they don't tap into that. So how much does the technology influence the laws of human nature? Well? So human nature is something that's that's something we don't

we're not even aware of. It's so deep, with enough, it comes from literally millions of years of evolution, and how our brains are wired from circumstances completely different from our very sophisticated technological society. How our levels of fear and how our emotions are wired, How we're extremely susceptible to the feelings and ideas of other people around us, in our tribe or whatever, and how we're prone to feelings envy, and how the human being can feel aggressive

and tribal, etc. And so technology hasn't changed that. So twenty thirty years of the internet is not going to rewire the human brain that evolved over so many millions of years. It's ridiculous to think that. In what it does is it makes things worse. It intensifies so many of the worst aspects of human nature. So I talk in the book of the power of envy. Envy is one of the oldest and most profound human emotions. We all experience it, right, but nobody ever likes to talk

about it because it's a very ugly emotion. It's basically, you wish that you have something that other people have, and if it gets ugly enough, you act upon it. Well.

Social media, in which we are aware on a level unimaginable ten twenty years ago, of every little thing going on in your life, of all the wonderful relationships you're having, of all of the great places you're visiting, all your wonderful travel experiences, etc. It's just a machine for generating envy among people, and we see that having political consequences

and profound social consequences. And so the idea that I'm on, you know, the fear of missing out, you have to feel like you're doing what other people doing, where natural conformists is part of human nature, and this only kind of makes that worse. And then the fact that we have a dark side. I talk in the book that we have a shadow. There's a dark side to our character.

Every single person has that. Well, on the Internet where you're basically anonymous, where you don't pay any consequences for being mean spirited, for being for bullying, for saying the stupidest things. Here you can just try out all of the worst parts of your character and pay no consequences. So it's just this this cool of all the worst parts of human nature that that can that can just kind of sit there and fester. I mean, there's a good part of social media. I don't deny that, but

it hasn't changed human nature. It's just showing it a very powerful spotlight on it. Man. That's such a good point, especially when you think about, you know, the dark side and how everybody had the dark side because you know, you can look back at old tweets all, you know, old video everything, and you you can be looking at yourself and be like Jesus Christ, who was that? You know what I mean? But you were fueling the machine that is social media because that's what with the gas

that made it go at the time. Yeah, it lives off of outrage. It lives off constantly generating people being upset and angry about things. And the angry you are, and the more you, you know, you kind of spew whatever your ideas are, the more people like you, the more you seem genuine, the more you seem animated and very you know, full of conviction. So it could be

very dangerous. And we've seen the play out, I believe in the Trump era and some of the horrible things we went through for four years with his Twitter feed, etc. Now I want to talk about there's been a lot of conversations lately about ownership and entrepreneurship, and you have interesting things to say about self reliance and how partnerships and how you kind of have to have ownership and things so that you're not relying on other people. Do

you think that's a trait that anybody can have. Well, you know, there's we're all wired differently. Some people are not entrepreneurial by nature. They have higher levels of fear, for example, And so there are people out there who are better off working for a large company. My father, God bless him, I loved him dearly. He worked for the same company for forty years. You know. He was basically a salesman and he had he's kind of working on his own, but it was with this one company.

So some people aren't wired for that. But the world that we live in, I think is just this a place now that kind of rewards that sort of spirit. And we're in a period coming out of the pandemic where all the signs seem to indicate that we're heading towards some kind of boom, some kind of economic boom. There's going to be incredible opportunity out there. People are dying for all kinds of new experiences. I know that very myself. We've all been cooped up in our houses,

our apartments, and we're yearning for something new. And so there's going to be insane opportunities out there for starting your own business on any level. And so you have to deal though first with your levels of fear, because what happens with people is they say, I have a great idea, but I'm not ready yet. I need to

find the financing, I need to find the help. And I always tell people your go before you think you're ready, because you're going to learn a lot more when you try something, you're gonna find, like we talked about the death ground strategy, when it's either get this thing off the ground or you're gonna lose a lot of money, you'll find a whole other level of energy to you. But I think all of us can learn to be

self reliant. We just have to deal with that first initial fear of failure, of being on our own, etc. And that's sort of what the fiftieth law was about. All right, well, ole move, We got more with Robert Green when we come back is the Breakfast Club Good Morning's DJ Envy Angela Yee Schal. Imagine the guy we ought to Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Robert Green, Chalomagne. You know a lot of people nowadays, you know, to

go back to the forty law of party. They stir up water to catch fish, right, but we call them trolls now Oh God, is the prize worth it for a troll to stir shop just because? Yeah, I mean, it's it's that's what I talked about when I was mentioned the dark side of human nature, you know, so normally the reason what I talked where the dark side comes out from is when you were a kid, you were kind of this complete person you had. You had

an aggressive side, you had a kind side. You would pull your sister's hair, you would tease her, you would do all kinds of mean things were like I did to my sister, and then you could be kind and sweet, and slowly over the years it's kind of pounded out of you. You have to be a good person. You have to be nice, you have to be polite, you have to hide all of those dark that dark energy that you felt when you were a child, and then you get older and you want to act out on it. Well,

some people have that more than others. They never quite grew up. They felt like that kind of repressing that dark side was they lost something very valuable about themselves. They're yearning to let it out, and so trolling is the absolute best way at it, you know, and social media is like the perfect instrument for being a troll. You know, you can say the worst possible things and get under people's skin. And all. We're all volatile, we're

all emotional. I've dealt with it myself. When I had laws of human nature out, I would posting things out on Facebook, and these really bitgy, mead spirited people would come out of the woodwork and would post the stupidest comments.

I mean, I can withstand people being malicious and all that, but I can't stand stupidity where they actually think they're smart and they have some kind of counter argument to a book I spent five years researching, and they in their little apartment on their computer, who's maybe spent two hours thinking about it. They know more than me. You know, it really gets you angry. But I found you know, I'm not going to deal How do you deal with the troll The best way to deal with them is

to ignore them. Don't feed the trolls, as we say, you know, and we all dealt with it with Trump, to be honest with I don't want to get too political, but here, but he was like the troller in chief, the president troll of our country, and he knew how to get under everybody's skin and rile them up. And I've spent four years getting continually riled up by his trolling maneuvers, and it's a great relief to not to

have that anymore. But you have to when you're dealing with a troll, you have to control yourself because their power lies in getting you angry and upset. And if you refuse to get angry and upset, if you refuse to take debit and respond to them, then they feel like, you know, then they feel challenged, they feel like they had they didn't win. So that's the best response to a troll, you know. And in light of the me too movement? Right, do you regret anything you wrote in

the Artist Abduction? Because you even refer to targets that subduction as prey choose the write victim. Would you change any of that now? I think I would. I think I would. I wouldn't shoot change the gist of the book, but I would. It's interesting because I've been having this discussion with a few people who've been interviewing me lately, some feminists, etc. And yes, I would change the word victim.

I think that's inappropriate, and I would maybe change some of the press it or pray stuff, and I think that, you know, we live in kind of slightly puritanical times, I believe, No, yeah, puritanical now. I like that because me and my homeboy Van, we always talk about, you know, there's there's these purity tests that you just won't be able to pass. Ever, but for whatever reason, we live

in an era where everything has to be pure. That's impossible. Yeah. Well, you know, it's like everyone has to you know, virtue signaling. They have to show how they're they're the most woke person that they have the most virtuous out there. And so I don't want to totally get rid of that edge to it. You know, I don't want to feel live in a world where everybody in culture, rap artists, filmmakers, feel like they always have to tow a line. They can't say or do something. We can't be honest anymore

about ourselves, about who we are, about human nature. We are not angels, right, We are descended from primates, not angels,

and we have to come to terms with that. And so I'm afraid that we're entering a period where people are afraid to say their emotions or to express what's really going on inside of their censoring themselves, right, And I know you say that that is again fear right, because you're not able to just sometimes go right into the fire and be who you are because you're always concerned about what other people might think about you, what might happen to you as a result or something that

you say. Well, I mean, look at the consequences. Now, you say one wrong thing and your band from some platform or nobody, your boycotted on some level. So the fear there is real. You know, if I suddenly said something so controversial on this show, I won't do it where people are so up in arms they start saying, Robert Green is evil, He's the devil. We can't We're going to burn the forty eight laws of power. You know,

I'd suffer very strong financial consequences. That doesn't happen if he said it doesn't I mean he said I feel like he says whatever's on his mind and it could be controversial and it's still booming. Yeah, I mean, he he lives off that. That's how he gets publicity, you know. But he doesn't matter, does he ever? Do you ever get the impression that he kind of goes over the line that he says something that's that's that offensive. Yeah, but but I mean I get it though you know

what I'm saying, I understand it. So it's like when I put it like this, when he said certain things, it's not that it goes over the line with me, but I know that it'll go over the line with some people. But you know, he's he's an anomaly. It's like, I feel like if somebody else said some of the things that he said, it would be way worse than

anything that would happen to him. For some reason, he's mass I don't know if it's because he's been working with you, but he's master something strategies where he's able to just yeah, it's it's amazing to me. I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe if he said that, and then it's fine. Well, part of it's his personality. He's very charismatic, he's very charming, he's kind of sweet. He's got a very good sense of humor. Now I

only got two more questions. I want to talk to you about meditation, because you know that's something a good friend of mine named named Debbie Brown is trying to get have been trying to get me to add to my mind fulness repertoire forever. And I started doing it over New Year's Eve. Ye New Year's congratulations. Oh man, I love it like it's amazing for me. What does your meditation practice look like. Well, I do a form

of zen meditation, which is a bit difficult. I've been doing it for close to eleven years now, and I do it forty minutes after as soon as I wake up. And I turned it into a little ritual because I like rituals as a writer. It's kind of how you live. And then for forty minutes, and forty minutes is a pretty long time, I try and completely empty my mind, no thoughts, nothing going on. I can honestly say that meditation is saved my life. I don't think I would

be here without it. Wow. And in this world today, with so many distractions, with so many things in our face, you've got people have to meditate it. I mean, if you can, it's it's it's it's it's life saving, it's it's the most important thing for you. My last question, do you think we'll ever have a true understanding of power and human nature? Well, it depends. I mean probably not. Because I told people the first law of human nature is that we deny that we have human nature. We

don't want to admit it. We don't want to admit that we can be irrational or aggressive or grandiose or field envy, or that we have a dark side, on and on and on. It's always the other person. Power is a dirty little secret in our culture. People will talk about their sex lives, they'll talk about whatever it is, they'll reveal everything going on, what they had for breakfast, etc. But nobody will ever talk about the power, the power

moves they did to get ahead in life. And we all have done them right, We've all been manipulative in some way to get to the top. If we got to the top. So there's a lack of honesty about who we are and about our desire for power and the things we do for power. And I don't think that's getting any better. You know, maybe in two hundred years a ray of light, well it will hit earth and people will will change and they'll suddenly be more self aware, and that would be a wonderful thing, but

I wouldn't bet on it. Wow, well man, thank you, Robert, you know, thank you for all your literature, all information you've given us over the years, the conversation you create. Thank you for Ryan Holiday, who's also become one of my favorite authors. And I can't well. I have a book coming out that Ryan has helped me with in the fall. It's you know, Ryan's Daily Stoic. Yeah, I read it every morning. All right. I'm coming out with my own version called The Daily Laws. It'll be out

in September. Inspired that very similar to that. Wow, just finishing that up right now, Robert, thank you very much. Can't wait for that. That that Daily PowerBook and Daily Law Book in September. Okay, all right, all right, Faith, She's filling the team. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, Demi Levado's movie, Demi Levado Dancing with the Devil. It's a four part

documentary that premier is today actually on YouTube Originals. Reveals a lot and in this documentaries she talks about dealing with her addiction and also a nearly fatal overdose in twenty eighteen. Here is the trailer. I crossed a line that I had never crossed. Are we talking about heroin? Are we doing that? Is a lot? People are gasping action levels or dangerously well, what you mean watching all of her blood out of her body into a machine. She's like, I can't I can't see I can't see him.

I had three strokes, I had a heart attack. My doctors said that I had five to ten more minutes that could top and said, yeah, you could be. You know a lot of people can be a function to heroin. And never you ain't gonna never get off, doctor Carl Hard. This lady, this lady heroin had strokes and heart attacks,

had to take the blood out of her system. And she's rich, and she's rich, Doctor Carl Hart would say that she should be able to test her drugs right to see what's in it right, because if she probably took something that had other things in it other than pure, well she did, she said she, She said she had that night done meth and she had never done it before, and she makes it with ecstasy, coke weed, alcohol, and oxycotton. So that was the night of the first relapse when yes,

all of that happened. So it feels like he and he also did say mixing all these drugs together is normally what leads to people overdosing, and she could have died from that. She said she has brain damage that she still deals with the effect of that today. She said, I don't drive a car because I have blind spots in my vision. She said she had a really hard time reading for a long time, and it was a big deal when she was able to read a book because her vision was so blurry from that. So you

can start watching that docuseries. She also said that it was an untreated eating disorder that led to her relapse. She read a magazine that said she was morbidly obese, and the body shaming is actually what led to her relapse.

I know these three words it easier said than done, and they sound cliche, and I don't necessarily agree with the reagans at all, but damn just saying no, bro, it's just easier to keep people from even getting into that world is trying to figure out the right way to do the wrong thing, and also body shaming and all of that just She said she had to stop a read articles about herself and that also helped her because people were talking about her, and you know, that's

not easy to deal with either when you're in the public spotlight. She's been working since she was ten years old. All right, now, comedian Garry owens estranged wife Kenya Duke has gone on social media. Now she posted something and we don't know what's going on here, but somehow Claudia Jordan and a mystery friend, a mystery woman is involved. She posted, I have all your info. I'm going to deal with you in a minute. I'm a little busy. Now. You can have him, but you can't disrespect me and

my kids in the process. She told Owen let her know a storm is coming, and then she put in the caption tried to be quiet out of respect for my kids, but Claudia Jordan has me on one this morning, twenty three years together. Gary didn't have ish but a raggedy pickup, in good credit and no place to live.

And then she posted you're old as should no better married, not separated married, And then she posted to at Gary Owen Comedy, all the energy you spent lying, acting and creating a fake narrative for these bitches that want to be me, you could have done it with a veggie burger and a glass of fake filtered water. Then she said white women are not involved. Hashtag not Claudia. Hashtag Claudia's friend hashtag dragging me back to ninety eight MacArthur Street. Mindset.

What the hell are y'all talking about this morning? I don't know, and guess what neither this Claudia Jordan. Here's what she had to say. I guess the story is that I somehow that he cheated and the woman is my friend. First of all, in my twenty years of knowing him, not one of my friends have ever told me or have ever implied that they have messed with this man. And also know, as adults, sometimes people break up, y'all, and it's not as scandals as you wanted to be.

It's none of our business. But all I came out here to tell y'all is that I have absolutely nothing to do with it. I do not have a friend in Dallas or anywhere else that is this man's mistress. I don't know if any woman that's his mistress. I do not know what the hell y'all talking about. One thing she said that is very true, It is none of our business. But the problem is all of this

stuff plays out on social media. So when it plays out on social media, people think it becomes their business because now they feel like they have to have an opinion about it, and I wish none of social media. When I saw this, I went right to Claudia's page to see if she had responded to it, and I saw she was on a flight and her comments. People were going at her, and she was like, what are y'all talking about? What? I'm on the flight right now.

I don't know what's happening. So she said, a raggedy ass pickup truck, bad jokes and good credit. What did she say? You're just doing the bad job. I think the bad jokes, jokes you pick up and good credit and no place to live about bad jokes for no reason. I want you to heat. I was asking the question when you get out of no phone call, whatever it is, I mean, Gary, I want you to heat. Vy's asks, are you just gonna throw bad jokes? I didn't mean to throw bad jokes, I asked, I don't know what

a veggie burger has to do with it. That's I actually just bad random stuff. I was just asking what it was, that's all. I was. Nothing to play out on social media. I really don't play out regardless, yet. I hope they work things out. Man. Gary's a good dude. No, don't try to throw that on him now if you said that, man, I'm just asking a question. Gary is a funny dude. He just asked up. Gary, I asked

what she said. He ain't here dressed like one of the pink ladies from Greece this morning, looking like Frenchy, looking like he did duty, and he got the nerve to talk about you jump on his asks when you get a chance. He joined the pink ladies, talking real tough talking, Hugh. He got a little gang now because it famin Frenchy and Sandy. And I don't even know who those women are. You know who the pink I don't know who to pick like you don't know whoever

they are. I don't know. I got my pink stock and Sandy and it's Frenchy and its envy like the golden girls. That's right, y'all, are put your little jackets jacket back on? You know what? Who are you giving your donkeys? Where I put my jacket back on. Let's talk Christian sex for after the hour. I'm not putting my back on. Let's talk about Christian to stop sex too, for it's the breakfast clark about it. So breakfast club.

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donkey of the day. They chose you, chose you? You Yeah, talk you today for Tuesday, March twenty third goes to a former Louisiana priest named Travis Clark. Travis Clark is thirty seven years old and he's a former priest. Did I say that already? Yes? I did. But he is a former priest. I'm saying that for a third time. Why is he a former priest saying it for a fourth time. Well, he's a former priest saying it for

a fifth time because he wasn't practicing what he was preaching. Okay, it's a lot of that going around nowadays, and I don't know how y'all live that way. Okay, I'm doing my own head about everything to live that way. That's one of the reasons I'm in therapy every week. That's why I meditate the way my anxiety is set up. I'm always questioning everything. Okay, anxiety be like, okay, but what if I'd be like, I got this, leave me alone. We've gone over this one hundred times already and we

totally resolved it. Did anxiety be like, yeah, but I've looked at it from a new angle, and there's like twenty more reasons why you should be worried about it than me. I just sit there and then I tell anxiety, go on, continue, tell me more. And this is why I could never just lie to people. And I'm a human who loves to lie for no reason. But I tell the kind of lies that you will hear and shay to yourself. I know he's lying, but you have

to see for yourself. And when you find out I'm lying, you're not really mad because you knew I was lying to begin with. For example, last week, I told Envy that Security was dealing with a guy downstairs who refused to leave until he got a kiss from our pink power ranger DJ Envy. Now, Envy, did you believe me when I told you that? Yes? No, you didn't. You did? Yeah, I caused the cur to securities like, what the hell are you talking about? Why would you believe that? Though?

That's you? But see that that's my point. You know it's me. You know I'm lying. I'm saying all that to say, I'm just not built to lie to the masses. Okay, just Envy, all right, I'm not I'm not built to lie to the masses. Okay. Pastors, relationship coaches, spiritual gurus, all these people who need these colt like followings to make a living, to make a dollar, manipulating folks pretending to be something they are not know Okay, but it's not gonna stop anytime soon, because this online era we

live in really rewards people for performing. Everybody is an avatar. They log online and become people they are not in real life. But one thing about those performances, though, the curtain will always fall. Yes, when you are performing and not truly being who you are, not being authentic, the curtain will eventually fall and this show will be over. That's why Travis Clark is a farmer priest, Ladies and Ghettlement.

He's a farmer priest because his idea of the Trinity is different than the idea of the Trinity that most religious folks know. Christians in particular, they know the Trinity as the unity of Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. The Godhead is what I think they call it, the Godhead. Now, Travis Clark believe in the Trinity is being one Dominatrix. Am I pronouncing that right? Yea dominatrix? Yes? That so, Yes, Travis Clark believes in the Trinity is being one dominatrix,

two dominatrixes and him. Okay, I don't know what kind of head you what, I'm sure someone's involved. Would you like to know the full story? Let's go to wwltvcbs fall for the report. Police. By now you've likely heard about the burning of an altar at a Pearl River church. Investigator David Hammer brought you the story this week about Father Travis Clark and his sexual misconduct inside Saints Peter

and Paul Church and Pearl River. Now, according to documents, a passer by spotted father Travis Clark halfneck at having relations on the the women, Melissa Chang and Mindy Dixon were dressed in corsettes and high healed boots, and in those documents that were adult toys, stage lighting and a mobile phone as well as a separate camera recording it all. Father Travis Clark, you in the church on the all to having sex using holy water is lou b listen, man,

the flesh is weak. We all fall short. I'm sure Travis Clark has preached against this kind of behavior, but this is when the narcissism comes into place. This is when the ego takes over. It's one thing to fall short and have sex, Okay, you human, father calrk. I get it, you made a mistake. But to have sex in the church a top of church, alto, that's like sleeping with another woman in your house, in the bed

you share with your wife. When you, as a priest move like that, you don't care about the church, the congregation, yourself, and you can't truly care about God or his raf either. Now. I was reading up on Christian sex life this morning, and it's a website called Bible Reasons, and it says Christian sex life is amazing. Sex within marriage is a blessing from God, and married couples were free to do any sexual position they want, whether you want to do

missionary or something else. Sex within marriage is God's gift to us, or you're free to do whatever between the two of you. Only we are not to have threesomes and sex with multiple people, nor are we allowed to bring pornography in the bedroom. So, Father Clark, you did a threesome and the church on the church altar with two women. You're not married to, Father Clock. You're going to hell. Those are the rules. Okay? Are those still the rules? He'll still exists, right, Okay, do not pass, go,

do not collect two hundred, Go to Hell, Father Clark. Okay, you could have been on Christian mingle finding a wife so you could have nice, guilt free marriage, sinless sex. But no, you want to have threesomes on the church altar. Now you gotta go to hell. Okay, I think God would have forgiven you if you would have did this in the hotel, But on the church altar, the church altar, Nope, you gotta burn. Okay, please, and the name of God,

Jesus and the Holy Ghost. Let Rimymond give Father Travis Clark the biggest he ha he ha he ha, you stupid mother? Are you dumb? They had to set the whole church altar on fire because of Father Clock Judea the World's most Dangerous morning show. Morning Everybody is tej Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest joining us this morning, Cynthia Arrival. Welcome, thank you very much. Hello, good morning, Cynthia. How are

you got? Good? Thank you? How you doing? I'm blessed Black and hally Fame. Well, obviously we're here to talk about the genius Aretha series that you're starring in as Aretha. So were you a huge fan of everything? Because I know you're already a singer and a songwriter. What was your connection before the series? Yeah, I was a big fan.

I'm a big fan. I started listening to her maybe when I was about nine, and I fell in love with how she communicated through her music, how she was able to commit a feeling, an emotion, a circumstance through song. And I was learning through her how to do that for myself. So how did this role? How did this role come about. I was on the red carpet at the Tony's and I was asked by Mark A Variety to sing my favorite song or like my guilty pleasure song,

and Ain't No Way was one of my songs. And in fact, he didn't ask me to sing, He just asked me what it was. And then when I told him what it was, he sort of gave the notework. Sing some of it please, So I sung a bit of the song and that went back to Brian Grazer and Clyde Davis, and then I got a message saying that they had heard me sing this on the red carpet and that they wanted me to come in and

talk about playing the role. Cynthia's the most important thing when it comes to playing these roles, because the first thing I think is when I see it, I say, like a river, Franklin. So what's the most important thing? I think The most important thing is whether or not you can find the essence of that person, because it's one thing to mimic a person, but that's not what I am. I'm I'm not a mimic. I can't do that.

That's not what I'm not. An impressionist and if that's all I was, the rest of the story couldn't be told. So I guess it's wanting to tell the story as fully as possible. It's one to find out what the essence of her was. It is finding out what her music did and how her music was song and met the method that she was singing in, the technique she had, and it's the I think the want of everyone around me as well to want to tell it, just the same as Dinah Russ did for Lady Day. She looked,

but she had her essence down to her. Tea was really special. So we able to speak with the family before doing this and maybe get some insight about her life and anything like that. I was able to speak to her family, but I'm lucky enough to know a lot of people who were very close to her, so

I spoke to a lot of those people. Had a conversation with Miss Felicia Richard as well about Everytha and Lynda's herman actual spoke to us about their relationship and how he felt about her, and that was a wonderful thing to find out too. Yeah, it was difficult, I think for you to be in this position right where you want to play this iconic role. But then there was so much controversy with the family and everything as whether or not they wanted this to even have been

So how did that play into your decision? The thing is I didn't know about what was happening with the family prior to this. All of this is sort of like coming out in the wash now. So for me, I had already believed that everyone had the information and the promotions that they needed, and as far as I knew, they were already speaking to the estate that had already allowed for this to happen. So my job was just to play the Queen of Soul as fully and as

truthfully as I possibly could. Yeah, and it's heartbreaking because for me, I love her. I would never do anything that causes any harm to her. I would never do anything that doesn't show her in the light that she's

meant to be shown. The woman had an incredible life and incredible career and had to work through some really tough things, And I think that the thing that we get to show with this is how much she had to work to get to where she was and how difficult it was at the time that she was living through to get to the thing that we know now, which for me makes her even more of a hero than we realized. Did you have any reservations the player's role because of the respect movie that's coming out Lady

this year? With me, I think that the more the merrier. I think there's a strange understanding that we can only have one. But we have many Marilyn Monroe films, many Judie Garland films, many presidents films of who which name the President? And we have more than one. And I thought that what a wonderful way. I knew that she would get her wish with Jennifer Hudson and she would get an extra with my version. So you were singing

for real in this series. Yeah, that's a lot of pariasure too, to be singing these areta signs because you know, everybody's like, okay, but you did amazing, Thank you very much, thank you. Yeah. I've been singing her songs for a long time now. She's too, I learned from so I was really excited to learn the intricacies of the decision she would make it in a song. No one song is the same. She has her own very special way of singing everything, and one song can be sung in

three different ways. If you if you listen to different versions by Aretha, and I took the time every song that we had an hour or an hour or two to work through every single one to make sure that I could get the small bits and pieces, the small details that she would happen the songs. Yeah, would you sing though? Right? Do I do? I do sing? Yeah? You got an album coming out this songer? Right I do? Yes? Who you sign? Would verb universal? Yeah? Okay, so you're

doing a lot. You got an album during this pandemic, You're acting during this pandemic. You're doing a lot. You making sure your time is if you're doing your time the right way. I was recording it whilst I was doing so we would finish in the week and I would have to go and vocal everything after on the weekend, so we get the week was full of Aretha. The weekend was full of me singing. How do you dump that? Though?

I mean you you you're channeling like this great diva during the week, Like, how do you put that to the side to focus on the energy you want to put out in your music? I don't know that you can completely you put it aside. I think that you know why, you kind of have to you have to

use it. I guess I was using the inspiration that I was getting from from doing this show at the same time, the details that she would have, the detail oriented where she would use her music, the style, and I know who I am individually, but there's a there's a real passion in in a read that I sort of I already heard but was amplified because I got to play her. So I kind of used it. I guess it's a great thing to be able to use that kind of energy to perform. You sort of get

fired up. Really yeah, just even for yourself, right and preparing for this role. And did you know a lot of things about a Reatha or did you learn a lot while doing this? Because I was watching it and I love a Retha Franklin. I was when her house was for sale and Detroit, I was like, I had this big road in the middle of the carpet. I was like, man, I wish I could buy this to

read the house. That's like a monumental thing. But even when you're watching the first couple of episodes, you're you're learning a lot about her childhood and how crazy it was yeah, I knew. I knew some things and I learned some things, you know. I think it's an incredible feat to be able to be who she was after being a mother at such an early age. And I knew it, but when you're working through it and you and you're putting it in context, it becomes even more amplified.

That this woman had to be a mother and a young woman before she was even ready to, but still was able to work through that and become Aretha Franklin that we know and love. I didn't know how deeply she was working with the civil rights movement. I didn't know that she had a relationship with Martin close friends.

That was an eye opening moment for me, and I think it was the first time that I was able to put into context the fact that she that her Young, Gifted and Black album was because of that, that she had made a decision to make an album that spoke to the times that they were living through that she was living through. We have more with Cynthia Arriva when we come back. Doble was the Breakfast Good Morning, j Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the Guy We Are the Breakfast Club

were still kicking it with Cynthia Arrivo Charlomagne. What energy have you channeled with for Rifa and Harriet for that matter, that was hard to get rid of. Harriet was something to Harriet was traumatic, I would assume, Yeah, I had. I had a had a little mini breakdown after Harriet because it was just tough to get rid of all of the loss because as she was saving people, she was losing a lot of her family at the same time. And she was she had lost her husband, she had

lost her sisters. She saved her family, but I think she almost lost her brothers. So for that I it was like this energy of loss. But there's both both of these women have us an amazing amount of bravery. So there's this courage that I think have picked up from both of these women. Yeah, we saw we saw the Keith Stanfield saying that he had to, you know, go to therapy after playing a role like William O'Neil. Did you have to do that after playing a role

like her? Yes, still go to therapy for it. It's a lot. It was a lot too physically and mentally. Both those things combined were put through their paces. And yeah, I'm not like occasionally, you know, I thought she's gone, but even when I speak about it, it's still like gets me. Yeah, you know, it's an eight prior miniseries, so we've only seen the first couple of episodes so far.

But what it is hard to watch it's like a complex relationship that Aretha has with her father, right, So can you speak on that and how you kind of delved into that when you were doing this role. But he had a complex relation. I think she had a lot of complex relationships, and this one was significant because partially it's the reason why we have her. He you know, had her out with him at a really early age, and she was listened to by a lot of people,

and she was singing at a very early age. And I think that she loved him deep deeply, was very afraid to let him go when he was when he was dying, and still partially was that little girl who was afraid to be without her father. But at the same time, it was just she was an adult before

she was ready to be. And so if there was this strange relationship of how do you compartmentalize and how do you work out how to keep this child a child whilst she's also a mother that that happened very quickly, and so I think that it never really balanced itself,

to be honest. Yeah, that can be triggering too though, right, Cynthia, if you don't have a strong relationship with your father and you got to play that role, right, because I think a lot of times, for a lot of us, relationships were fathers sometimes are complicated because they feel more transactional than nurturing and loving like mothers. Yeah, for me, that's that's very true. I don't have a relationship with my father at all. I think the last time I

spoke to him I was sixteen. Yeah. Yeah, this role hit a little different for you. Huh oh yeah yeah. And you have your own production company as well, right, Yeah, it's called Edith's Daughter, And we are trying to make sure we show projects about women like myself and yourself in spaces that we never get to see that we

exist in already, but they're very rarely shown to the world. So, whether it be Sarah Forbes, Vanetta who was essentially a princess in the UK but was basically erase from history, or a wonderful woman called Loadonna who happened to be a security guard at JFK, and often they're the most underrepresented people in the space, but they're actually doing the hardest work and I'm always looking for those people. There's everything from hopefully espionage to historical drama. You know you're cynthy.

There's always criticism about non black Americans playing all the roles of Black American icons. I feel like that Carbo might have started with you when you played Harriet. I'm not sure, but what do you say about that? I don't think it started with me. May have started with David maybe, but it definitely continued with me. What do

you say about that? I say that we're still in a space of lack, and so what happens has become at these roles as though that they're as though they are the very last time it can be played or seen, which is just not the case. And I hope that my playing something doesn't mean that someone else can't play this role, and that British Black actors are our actors first and foremost. Our job is to tell the story as truthfully as we possibly can. And I know that

I didn't get into this career to play myself. I do that very well already, but that's that's not my passion. My passion is to tell stories of those who aren't able to tell their own stories. And that might be an American, it might be a Scandinavian, it could be South African, it could be Nigerian, it could be British. As long as the story is something that I believe in, that's the story I want to tell, and hopefully now I can create more roles for other people. That's the aim.

Have you ever looked at an American playing a role of an African or you know, a British person and said that person shouldn't be playing that role because they're American. No. No, it's so strange because it didn't occur to me that that was that was an issue until until I got here.

I've never looked like there are so many British roles that have been played by Americans, so many and they've been African roles played they Americans, but it's never I've never been like wise in an African playing that role because rectors. Now, also, I see there was a rumor that you were in a relationship with Lena. Waithe that's our good friend up here. Any truth to that? I mean, here's the thing like, I understand we have to ask it.

But if you ask that question and I'll give you an answer, that means that you are suggesting that I need to tell you what my sexuality is right now, which means that if I'm not ready to come out here, you would be outing me, Like how you do that back on me? So let's so I didn't ask that question, but check out a wreath of the genius Aretha, and we appreciate you for checking in. Thank you so much. Listen. Oh gosh, got angel, It's all right. Another alle you

for DJMV. Now let's talk about this was trending yesterday and everybody was talking about this guy, Derek Jackson. Now, I guess he is a relationship expert and he's a quote relationship guru, and here he is. This is just one of the things that he talks about about men being cheaters. You know, women love this talk coming from a man. I have no sympathy for a man who finds it to be difficult to be faith after being

in a permission was lifestyle and neither ship. Nobody told you to be permissious before the relationship, and nobody made you be monogamous. We just heard you don't want her, let another man have her. Except and more times, I would say nine times out of ten when the dude gets caught cheating, that was wasn't his very very first time cheating. That was his only time getting caught. Who. Well, I hit dog Bill Holler and it was exposed that he actually was cheating on his own wife. He's been

married for four years. And YouTuber Tasha k actually interviewed a woman that he slept with named Candice Damaderos. And I guess there's other women who are also coming forward. Well, here is Derek Jackson who says that affair wasn't what you think. Listen, at that point, I had a beef with God. I gave my life to christ in my whole life fell apart, my marriage fell apart. At this point, I'm not seeing my kids and I really honestly just went to a place of ethic. That was in May June.

She basically lets me know there's no plan for her to be around on my birthday. Now I'm in screw it, molde, ef it, molde. I'm hitting up old chicks. I really don't care at this point. One of those people was a girl named Candids. Now here's the thing. So me and Candids have had a sexual relationship without actually having sex. Man, you are a liar, and you've always been a liar. I've never yeah a sexual relationship without having sex. Does

anybody understand that? Can you interpret that? No? I've never heard someone say I gave my life to Christ and my life fell apart. That's that's new one. But I mean, you can have you can have emotional you can you can cheat emotionally, right, right, you don't have to necessarily have sex with you. Sometimes you just gotta say, I'm I was wrong. I messed up. Yeah, I was confused with the brother first of all. I was confused with what makes him a specialist? Right, He's been married four

years and he portrays his perfect in perfection. And anybody who's been married or been in a relationship, you know that there is nothing perfect about a relationship, about a marriage, There's nothing perfect. There is Like even with my Poe cast, with me and my wife, we talk about everything, the good, the bad, the ugly. I talked about my infidelity. I talked about everything because that's what makes the relationship strong, and that's what helps people out but portraying that something

is perfect. People look for this perfection and there is no perfection. I talk about me being insecure, I talk about me being controlling early on in our relationship, but all that has helped and built to what we have today, and we talk about everything. We still get into arguments, we still have problems, but we have great times. But we talk about it and that's what relationships and marriage

is about, working through it. Well. Derek also had said that he didn't sleep with that woman, or anyone for that matter. He said that did not happen, He did not sleep with her, but then he changed his tune. He actually did a video with his wife and she was there with him. She was wearing a bonnet. And here's what happened. The truth is is that Derek Jackson was involved with other women outside the marriage, and I involved.

I want to be clear. I'm not talking about just casually kicking nick maybe a lunch or something like that. I'm talking about a serious that has sex and something that otherwise may be considered okay by some, but without my wife's knowledge of it, and with us having a sexual history, all of it falls under the umbrella of inappropriate cheating, affair, stepping out. It's important that I first thought, let you guys know I do not stand by those actions.

And then secondly, I know that I cannot build a platform preaching certain things, preaching against certain things. And then in my real life lived contrary to that, I know one thing. You have to let your wife get to the part of the busteed challenge when Erica Banks song plays before you put her online and embarrass her because she looked like the Nelly Park was still playing. Yeah, she didn't look like drop down and come up fresh. Dad never asked, She didn't look like she want to

be there. And I would hope that they would figure out their problems first before they go to the world, Like figure out home first, don't don't. Don't just have your wife up there and you're talking and she looks like she doesn't want to be there. Fix the problem first, y'all get your therapy on, y'all get what y'all gotta get on, and then you could addressed the public. This

ain't about the public, This ain't about the world. This is if you really care, like you say, this is about you and your wife, man and fixing the only thing I would tell everybody out there, I would rather be known in life as an honest center than a lying hypocrite. Okay, and also remember that God will never bless who you pretend to be. He will only bless who you are. Also, in the words of MC breed,

ain't no future in fronting. Okay, all of y'all that be fronting and performing on social media because you get rewarded for it. Just know one thing about performing, The curtain will eventually fall. So many people wake up every day pretending trying to be what people want want want them to be instead of being their self, and that performing is rewarded nowadays, but eventually that curtain falls and the show is over. And finally, black men don't cheat. Okay,

black boys do, Black immature young men. I haven't cheated since October twenty sixteen dropping the clues bombs for me. Okay, and I this year, I promise I didn't do it last year because of COVID. This year, I am going to get a coin made for all the brothers that I know who we have truly rehabilitated their lives and have been sober and clean for a long period of time. How long has it been for you in long ass time,

a long ass time. It's been five October two thousand things to be five years for me and I'm way pass. I'm way pass long. But once again, rather be known in life is an honest center than align him? All right, okay, all right, all right, well that is your rumor report. Now putting on my pink you know why. The mixes up next, and I'm starting sip set set play it, play a song, plaything again, play play his song. We'll

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eighteen world championship medals and thirteen world goals. It's the most in track and field history for men and women. Last year, Allison was named on the Times one hundred most Influential People, and that is because of her work as an advocate for better maternity coverage for female athletes. Here she is discussing that it's Woman's History Month and we're celebrating the most influential women in his check out

this phenomenal work. What was it like to have your daughter be witnessed, I think for the first time now to these victories, it was amazing. You know. I want to be a good role model to her, and you know, this year was all about fighting, you know, fighting for so much and I want to eventually, you know, tell her that story of that. But she'll be able to see, you know that I did try to overcome some adversity.

So how did you know even that ten months after an emergency C section that you were even ready to get back on the truck. Seems your body would still be out of whack. It still is. I'm still getting there, you know, ways ago, but you know, just really talking to my doctors about, you know, this new body that I have, and when I was clear to get back out there, and I started slowly, It was a gradual process. I started walking and eventually made my way back. Did

it feel really different it? Did? You know? I was? It's very humbling. You know, things that once came really easy to me were now very difficult. Well, was gonna say. It's stressing to point out that most of the other countries that you're competing against on the track there, those runners come from countries where parents get protections in pregnancy and also in maternity leave. You've taken a fight public

to make sure athletes get protections under these contracts. What does the country need to do and what more needs to be done at a corporate level? Does he changes happen a lot? I mean, this is an issue that everyone is affected by, and I tackled it in my industry. But I think that's just really the starting point, you know. That's why I want to leave behind is changes for the next generation and for my daughter. And that was another phenomenal woman in his Yes, congratulations to Alison Felix,

well deserved. She is truly a role model, amazing athlete. She was introduced to the sport late in life in high school and she went on to win her first Olympic gold medal just four years later. Super dope. All right, when we come back, we got the positive notes. You don't move is to Breakfast Club Gumoni morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Good morning, Good morning. That shout out to

Cynthia Arrivo for joining us this morning. She's playing Aretha and the Genius series are National Geographic. It's two episodes that airs every night, up to a total of eight episodes, so you can still catch those. That's right, and salute the Robert green Man, one of my favorite authors. You know forty eight Laws of Power to Artist Eduction, thirty three Scratgies of War, fiftyth for Law of Mastery, um the Laws of Human Nature, I've I've read all of

Robert Greene's books. Man, it was great to have him on for a conversation this morning as well. But you got a positive note, yes man. The positive notice simply this, and I want all of y'all to remember it, and please don't ever forget it. I would rather be known in life as an honest center than a line hypocrite breakfast club, y'all dumb