Bakari Sellers Interview and More

rest of the brothers. Yo ass so good morning, usc in to running yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Good morning nangeli ye, good morning, Charlomagne. Your mic sounds like trash. My mic sounds like trash. Yes, look sounds like you're about thirty feet away in the underwater. I sound like I'm about thirty and he's underwater. He's unplugging.

It's Mike. We got technical difficulties. If you don't know, you shouldn't know. By now, we're broadcasting from our own houses. Charlemagne is in his crib where you know, he's in husband, I'm in mine, and every once in a while, I don't know what it is with Charlemagne's but sometimes it's he has a little technical difficulty out to unplug and plug it back in. But good morning everybody. How are you yesterday? Yesterday? Yesterday was the first day I went

to the office in twelve weeks. With the first day I went to the office, I mean I only work with three other people in my office. For other people in my office, it was me, Fernandoze Caesar and our secretaries. Um, they have been in the office in and out. I haven't because I'm the one that goes and gets the food and gets the food for my family, my mom and and me, and I just didn't want to get

it give it to them. If I did have the coronavirus, uh, I know, especially with seas, I don't know his immune system. So I was like, let me stay away. But yesterday I had to go to the office. That was my first day back to the office. What about you easy yesterday? Well, I want to commend somebody, Brianna Johnson. She is from Brooklyn and she actually I'm part of this Hamilton committee and you know, Lemmanuel Miranda went to my college, Wesleyan University.

So every year they do this Hamilton Prize now and whoever wins gets four year full tuition scholarship to Wesleyan. So Brianna Johnson is the person they announced as the winner, and she was the person I had as my first choice as well, so I want to congratulate her. She's getting a four year full scholarship to Wesleyan University. She actually did an album mixtape called Dreams to Reality, These Change and Da Damages of Duality. She wrote these songs

in eighth and ninth grade. She was struggling to adjust to her predominantly white school. She was one of the only black students in her classes, and it was around the same time that the shooting of Michael Brown happened, and that's basically what she was talking about in her entry. So I thought it was very powerful. So I want to congratulate her. That's a big deal for a year fow to it. Yes, yeah, absolutely, you know it's funny

that you said that. Of course, if you have a senior in high school, they have to write, you know, certain essays to colleges, and my daughter wrote an essay similar to that, just being the only African American in the class, black in the class and explaining how that felt, and when everything was going on in the world, whether it was Donald Trump, whether it's the shootings, how how she felt like an outsider and nobody to talk to and it felt like people were looking at her and

she had to write a previous essay and you know, um, it's a serious thing. You know, it's a serious, serious thing, and a lot of people don't understand how how that would make their child feel. You know, sometimes you feel like, you know, you're making a little money, you want to put your child in a in a you think, a better school district, and when they're in their school district, they feel lonely about themselves because nobody looks like them. So that has a lot to do with how they talk,

how they speak, how they raise, how they moved. So that is a big, big thing, I know, even for myself. I went to Catholics. That happened to me. I went, I went to Saint Francis Prepp and Queens, but I lived in Queens Village, in shady village with you know what we call it, So it wasn't as bad because even though I went there, I still had to go back to Jamaica Avenue. I still had to go home and might have my friends at home. So it was different for my kids, and a lot of other people's

kids they don't have that. So congratulations to her man. I'm so happy for her. Yeah, four years I was saying when when I was younger, I went to school. First of all, I'm from Flat Push in Brooklyn, and you know that's a black neighborhood, a lot of West Indians. And and by the way, excited for that Booge and I mean not Booze you a bounty killer and Beanie man versus is happening on Saturday. You know, I was pushing booj you and Beanie. But hey, I'll take Beanie.

And I know I thought about that too, because I actually had said on a zoom before that's a battle I would have liked to see. But anyway, I was. I grew up and I went to school. I didn't even know any white people except for my teachers. And then in seventh grade I went to a predominantly white school, probably Prepp in Brooklyn, and I felt so out of place, and so I stayed there for three years. All right,

lam you back with us? I think so. No. Now you said like sounds said like your volume is at two? Why will we do this? Don't nobody say this as soon as the show started in the mic, sounds terrible. You gotta talk to you getting it? I don't know right now? Now you sound good. I think they put your volume up. I think that was up. Dumbasses in the goddamn studio. Love y'all. But Jesus Christ, Well, but

Cary Sellers will be joining us this morning. My guy, But Cary Sellers, he's got a new book out, his first book, actually My Vanishing Country. It came out of a Tuesday and it's, you know, just about him growing up in South Carolina when he ran for lieutenant governor. Talks a lot about him and his father, him and his father, Cleveland Sellers. Man. Cleveland Sellers was a radical from South Carolina who was shot in the Orangeburg massacre.

So it's a great, great story. All South Carolina stories must be told. That's my guy right there. All right, but Cary Sellers will be joining the next hour. We got front page news what we're talking about. Ye man, this is unfortunate, but a shooting that happened in Glendale, Arizona. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. This to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is cg Envy, Angela yee, Charlomagne the guy we all the Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Let's get in some front page news. But we're starting you well. NBA teams they're expecting guidelines for how players will be getting back to work on June first, so that's when they expect the league will call back players who have left their home markets, and also that same day to represent a point in which they can also ratchet up the intensity for workouts for players who

already are going to team facilities. So you can look forward to either Orlando, Florida at Disney World or Las Vegas. Those are proposed cities for a return for players to be able to play their games in the future. So did you say June Firth they're gonna have the meeting or June Firth they're gonna start back playing. They'll not playing games, but we're talking about a ratteting up the way that they work out for players that are already working out and for other players to be called back

to come and work out. I see they had a nast called yesterday, had nass called cup Race yesterday. So I mean they opening things back up. They're like, all right, let's go, all right, Armando Junior Hernandez. He went to Snapchat and they're saying that he posted and it's hard to look at him and watch this, but it was a video that was shared on social media, and he is the man who gunned down three people in Glendale, Arizona, at the Westgate Mall. So now, fortunately at this point,

nobody was killed. Three people were shot, two are expected to survive, and one person was taken to a hospital in critical condition. But the police did respond to an active shooter situation at the Westgate Entertainment District shopping center. And he has been identified by his mother as Armando Junior Hernandez. He was taken into custody. He's twenty years

old and he attended Raymond Kellis High School. So right now, that video was very disturbing, but he was showing himself pulling up in his car saying that he was going to do this shooting. He puts on a cameo face mask and then you see him with the gun firing off the rounds and you even see one woman who was shot lying down, possibly injured, and he says society is bullish. Well, you know that's that's that's yet another reason to stay quarantined. How old twenty and right now

they do not have a motive. That's another reason to stay stay socially distanced away from crowds. Yeah. I just don't understand people like that. People. If you feel like society is BS, and you know, I would rather you, you know, go get help and sit down with a therapist or psychiatrist. But if you feel like society is BS and you want to hurt somebody, start with yourself. Okay, yeah, gotta take out innocent people. You know, you don't want

to be here no more, that's on you. But do you know I'm gonna putting that hurt on other people. That's why you got That's why I would say, hurt people, hurt people, and they need to sit down and talk to somebody. Oh, if you want to fight so bad, you want to shoot people so bad, why don't you join the military. You can join the military that way. People like that aggression. You're shooting people that are laying on the floor, begging for their lives, like, how does

that make like that can't make you feel good? Join the military. Go focus that aggression somewhere positive. Yeah, all right, the last front page news get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need to hit us up right now eight hundred five eight five one oh five one, it's to breakfast club. Come morning, the breakfast club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man from you on the breakfast club. If you got something on your mind. Hello,

who's this's what's up? Trash going on? All? I mean, pieces, what's happening? Uh? Seven scheleven Hey guys hey blind Beauty good. Yeah, we're just called him to say that. Um Beauty did a wide clubs challenge and yesterday White Plus posted it up. Yes, um so, I want to foods bonds for Blind Beauty. That needs people to go to white cluss page and this view the video. It's the most recent video you posted and it's go and view the video so she

can win. And I'm going right now. Um So, I wanted to ask ye, uh if I were to win the money, like, would you be like willing to partner with me to find like a legible charity, like done it the money because I already haven't around. I did a challenge around directed violence, and of course he's doing it for Amad rest in peace. So I wanted to donate it, you know, the money, because for me it was just for him to be with the steed. You know what I was able to do. And the money

I don't really care about. That's dope. No, absolutely, I can use a bit free and Paz, but she don't want to me. Oh my gosh, listen, she gotta make millions more anyway, So that's what you do. You care for her? That's joke, tra You and blind Beauty work together. You do this is my boomed. I mean I kind of like the manager. Was she bigg and you puffy? Don't?

Oh god, yeah, you just say that. Okay, Well, today's Biggi's birthday too, by the way, so happy birthday, b I. G oh m, before I let you go, you cool fatty whap right? Like y'all y'all like cool, be cool? Will what's up? So Beauty did something? Like? Okay, okay, that email you gave me? Can I send you something to that email? Sure boom, they left, boom, say let's owing me on the ground, let's go, and yes, ma'am, yeah,

thank honestly, thank y'all so much. It's like y'all the shoe, even though soom be trying to be funny, but I love him down all right, beauty, I have a going Hello, who's this? Hello? Hello? Man? What's up? What's up? Broke it off her chest? All right? So I had more of a question for everybody. So my home girl sweater situation. So she's started messing about how baby falls his friend. So I told her, you feel me? It was supposed to be something casual and and then you feel me,

I said. I didn't feel as though she was more so and the wrong. Boy, the feelings got intech. You feel me, you know, females feel different, said gods. But I said he was more wrong because he'd be sitting and the baby falling all the time. You feel me. He'd be brought him off, hating him up, and I didn't. I that's why I feel like he's more worse. He agreed, disagreed hexplay with the hell he's talking about? I don't know.

He tried to kind of him out. Man, hold on you. No, I'm just saying she shouldn't have been missing her baby father's friend. Anyway. That's messy. I mean, that's obvious. But thank you for calling bro. Get it off your chests. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the breakfast Club. Go more, the breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up, wake y'all. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or black, we want to

hear from you on a breakfast club. Hello. Who's this yo? Let's try out of North Carolina. How are you going? What's up? Bro? Get it off your chests? Man? All right, So, first of all, I just want to appreciate y'all for the for what you do every morning. It keeps me going. I love listening to y'all. I'm working. I work for FedEx, and I make a lot of deliveries out here in Lexington, North Carolina, and I just got to get it off my chest about this one guy who told me to

back on his damn driveway. And it wasn't even his house that I was delivering too. So first of all, the guy said, well, I pull into the driveway. He goes, Yo, who are you looking for it? And I gotta step truck. I don't know if you know what that is, but you can walk in and out of him very easily. And he just steps into my truck and was like, who are you looking for it? And I'm like, Bro, you can't step in my truck. You gotta back up or back out. So at that point he said, or

back out of my damn driveway. Then it wasn't even his house that was delivering to and what I don't even know if he is here, right, you keep jar of Craft Mayonnaise colonizer looking human specimen. And I'm gonna just start calling colonized from home. Because Bro had no right to step in my truck. He said he was gonna call the police. So I was like, I'll do you want further? I called him and I waited and I waited and they got there and they do whatever

I got there, so nothing. Yeah, it did not. So you know, I've been seeing you guys, been getting people, been getting frisky with you guys the last couple of days. Man, I don't know what's wrong with people. I like my ups guy, my FedEx guy, my post office guy. My Amazon people like, what's wrong? They delivering packages. They're doing their job. They out there delivering is during this quarantine.

Showed them a little bit of respect and we should be grateful to that when we're waiting for our packages. It's the customers like y'all to appreciate us. That makes it even better, because it's not like we're delivering a little bit of things. Everybody's oldering stuff. And I appreciate, like the business. I'm grateful to have a job. So not playing about the work. It's just that people are going to interact with and they exactly no reason to be. Yeah.

Then it was the same day another lady was waiting on medicine for a husband's foot that that might fall off for like days, and I so bad I could have crowd. I was like, yo, man, I feel so bathroom. I'm sorry. You know everything we can't. I agree with everything that you're saying. I don't think that y'all should be going through that, but you you can't take things personal at a time like this because this is a very stressful time for a lot of people. You know

what I'm saying. A lot of people might have gotten laid off the people got people might have gotten furlough, a lot of people might be grieving, you know what I mean. Like a lot of anxiety is high right now, depression is high. So you can't take none of that personal. When people got an attitude, they can't take it out on the people that's just trying to do their job. They ain't damn but trying to do their job. It happens, is what I'm saying. You know what I mean. Hurt people,

hurt people. It's a lot of hurt people at a time like this. Well he's calling an event, he just want a vent about it. Yeah, he's calling. I'm just giving another perspective, guys, and and thank you for calling, and we appreciate you. And draws me. I fav would drop a bomb for ANGELI Ye. I'm so happy ANGELI ye hasn't had a package delivered in my house and at least fourteen weeks. Man, I know, I wonder things. Thank God, I'm thankful and grateful they ain't no packages coming.

And I'm like, all right, yeah, you ain't shopping yet. Well yeah I haven't. But when we get back to it, babies, testing believe, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five on If you need to vent, you can hit this up now. We got rumors on the way. Yes, and listen, there's still some fallout from this whole fire festival. I know you all have seen those documentaries by now on Netflix and Hulu, but that disastrous fire festival and now Kendall Jenner has had to

pay up. Yeah, people, well we'll talk about it. They should have to pay no damn money back. But anyway, it's the Breakfast logan Morning the Breakfast Club. She's filling the team. This is the rumor report with Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. Yes, Candy Birds, it has been a reveal that she is the masked singer the Night Angel. A lot of people had thought it might be her because you know, they give you those clues, and some

of the clues pointed directly at her. So here's what you had to say when she won, what no excited? I did what I came here to do, and that was to be the first Oneman to ever win the Mass Singer. Your Mass Singer must come on every too much, right, it must be a new It wasn't it didn't They just reveal a winner mass singer, Like yesterday no, we was in the studio and that was like what three that seem She's the first Little wayne On to win. So yeah, so that's such a big deal. So congratulations

to Candy Burrs. And she is on Real Housewives of Atlanta. And you know, people keep saying that Phaedra might be returning to Real Housewives of Atlanta. Who knows. But what we do know is that she's going to be on Marriage boot Camp Hip Hop Edition. So for all of you that miss her and that have been waiting for her return to television, she will be on there. So get ready for that, all right. That's going to premiere at Thursday, July second on we TV. Now, Kendall Jenner

has to repay some of her Firefest fee. That fire Festival was supposed to happen in twenty seventeen. It did not go down. Now she had to pay back ninety thousand dollars, but I think the whole amount was like two hundred and seventy thousand, two hundred and seventy five thousand that she got paid to post about the event. And a lot of her followers thought that there would be all these models on an exotic private island, some

great culinary experiences. She also hinted that her brother in law Kanye West would be performing, So because she didn't let people know that it was an ad, she now has to repay some of that money. She had to put a D in parentheses, and that's whack. Like if she did a commercial. I've seen the commercial. She did a commercial saying that there was a festival, the Fire Festival, and this standing other. She was promoting the Fire Festival. She didn't say, you know, you know Instagram, some of

those sites make you do that though. That's why you see like you'll read somebody's caption and you'll say, like, ad in parentheses, have one from yesterday? Yeah, I had to do that in a couple of days ago. Yeah. But it's just problem is that it didn't even go down. And then they said Kanye was never going to perform

at the festival, and she kind of misled people. So I thought you said that Kanye was supposed to do a surprise performance look allegedly behind the scenes, but you know, I don't know if there was an official contracting information and if he was supposed to come and it didn't happen. You know, I was supposed to get my money back. That's not fair. You didn't get to keep almost two hundred thousand dollars. Guys, she didn't even have to go. And it's not like she made up her own caption right.

If her posting on her Instagram was part of the deal, trust me, they sent her what to say. That was a copy and paste. I'm almost positive somebody wrote that for her. All right. Gil King has a new radio show that examines dating and relationships in the coronavirus era. She was on with Stephen Colbert and The Late Show and they were talking about it. Here's what she had to say. It is COVID based. What are you learning about yourself? What are you learning about other people? How

have you changed? So it's every third Thursday, every Thursday at five. You know what I want the topic to be? Tomorrow night I meet what Thursday night? Dating in COVID or ationships in COVID? I think either people are either getting closer together or they're going to rip you apart trying to meet nobody damn coronavirus. She also talks about what it's like to be single while sheltering in place. Yeah, but a lot of people are home alone and they

don't want to just not meet anybody. They're still like, okay, how can I find somebody? So that is something for people to think about safely, of course, without having to go out. And some people are saying it is a good time to meet people because there's not that pressure of having to meet up in person and get all done up, so you really get to know somebody during this time. That's true, all right, And it's a beautiful time to catfish the cat fish, your show, the catfish

yourself down days. Beautiful time. Well, but you know a lot of people are face timing or they're doing little zoom dates, so you still get to see that the person is really who it's supposed to be, and you really want to connect with somebody that you never gonna meet in this time. It's not that you're never going to meet them, you just what fun is that? Yeah, you meet them, but it just it's not gonna be

for a little bit. You know, you really get to know them and to this quarantine's over, then you know, then you can meet them. I mean, I think that's greater right around Christmas, So now you got to buy Christmas gifts and all and all kind of other stuff for this person. You really don't know. Look, whatever people decide they want to do at this time, if they still want to continue to date, we encourage you to

do it, but do it safely. Have a zoom date, have a FaceTime date, get to talk on the phone to somebody and you can meet up in person. Yes, when this is all over and it's safer, and as you can see, places are starting to open up. All right, I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. All right,

thank you, miss Yee. Now when we come back, we got front page news what we're talking about, Yes, and we're going to talk about different things that Twitter is trying to do right now to make your experience a little better. All right, we'll get into that next. Keeping locked this to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. Let's getting some front page news. Where we're starting me, Well,

let's start with a family in Virginia. They found nearly a million dollars in cash lying in the middle of the road. Let me tell you how amazing this family is it seems like they always do the right thing. Emily Chance said she was driving with her family Saturday and she ran over what she thought was bags of trash on the road. Now, if that was you, what would you do? I what I was praying for, I would keeping blessing bags and trash we had time like

this money they thought it was. They thought it was bags of trash on the road. They did not know it was money. So instead of just throwing it to the side, they actually put the bags in the back of their pickup truck because I guess they wanted to dispose of it. It wasn't until they got home that they realized that they had gotten a million dollars almost And then after that I didn't know it was a million.

They counted it well, now they knew. Afterward, after they returned the money, they actually called local deputies and told them about their discovery because they had an address on it that said cash ball and then an address and it turned out to be almost a million dollars, so they gave it all back. So not only did they take this trash from the middle of the road and take it off the road and bring it somewhere to dispose of it. They also found out it was cash

and then returned it. Guy was testing me out of fail. I definitely would have failed. I've seen that bag in the middle of the road. Nobody around hout of thought. It was a gift, I said, somebody's blessing me to day. Where did this money come from? It was the postal service was delivering it to the bank or something like that. That's what they were saying. Was supposed to be dropped off at a bank, but it was from the postal service. They got insurance, they had a cash reward. Did they

get something. I don't know what they got, but they said they returned it because it was the right thing to do and it didn't belong to us. And you don't know it didn't belong you. You know what I'm saying that God works in mysterious ways. You never know how God is gonna bless you, right, We don't know if you were furloughed. We don't know if he was laid off. You don't know if you got you know, medical bills you need to take care of. You might need a surgery if you rain for a blessing, don't

you ask? You know, I don't question God when you get it. Okay, But what would you have done, Charlottage, I don't know, To be totally honest with you, I don't think I would have took it back immediately, though I would have sat down and talking about that one for a minute. I would have prayed again. I would have said, now, God, if this is supposed to be mine, give me a sign, okay, give me a give me a sign, please. I wouldn't return that two hundred thousand

dollars to turn that two nd. All right. Twitter is testing a feature that would let you decide who's allowed to reply to your tweets. I've seen this, so if you have a conversation, you can have it so that only people that are added at mention can respond, or only people that can that follow you can respond, or you can leave it open for everybody. So I think that's a good feature. I like that because sometimes people can be disrespectful, so you can be like, you know what,

you're not allowed to respond. All right, now, let's talk about what's opening back up. The Connecticut govern has outlined the next phases for reopening that state, so phase two of their reopening is slated for June twentieth, more than half of California is moving further into reopening. North Carolina tomorrow will allow dine in eating. They'll also be opening up here in Neil Salon's barbershops, churches, and pools. So yes, if you're in North Carolina, you'll be able to do

that starting tomorrow. Other places in Iowa, the governor announced the next wave of reopenings, which is movie theater, zoos, aquariums, museums, and wedding reception venues tomorrow. New York will now allow religious gatherings of up to ten people starting today. And they've also unveiled this plan to address seniors and nursing homes during the pandemic. Now, let's talk about in Toronto.

They're going to be reopening amenities like basketball courts, picnic shelters in hundreds of parks and that is going to be reopening this week. So they're saying, if we are opening up the parks and we're opening up sports facilities, then there will be physical distancing rules. Also, you can't have organized sports right now, so you're not allowed to. You you can play basketball park, it just can't be organized like. It can't be like a five on five game.

You can probably go and shoot around yourself. They put the people gonna be like, let's play it three on three or four or four or five five. The stories I never I hate any of these stories. I feel even worse than worse for the goddamn graduates who got to graduate virtually or they can play basketball. It makes no sense, Like it really makes no sense. You can find a way to social distance with everything else, but

not a graduation, Like it's really stupid. It is, all right, well a lot of people are just a laying graduation, so it's not like it won't happen at all, right, man, if people they having virtual graduations today and play in Georgia, they having virtual graduations today, so uh well, anyway, that's just some of your updates. How much Georgia point. Definitely crazy in Georgia, especially being at Georgia been over for

a couple of weeks. They having virtual graduations. For how you can't have a day party and you can't have parties and then these kids can't graduate. Man, it makes no priorities a mess up? Man, would you say, but would you feel okay with letting your kids go to graduation? Right? Now too. Yeah, absolutely, they just gotta keep you hear it?

Did you hear everything? You just said everything, because you guys have been saying this whole time that you wouldn't want your kids going back to school right now, you wouldn't want them doing certain things. So that's why I'm asking. Just because it's open doesn't mean you're going to do it right. It was graduation, graduate away. Yeah, school is you gotta go class to class, They gotta clean. This is one time thing six feet away. Well you know

all angles. Yeah, I would let my daughter graduate. Everybody. Everybody can wear a mask. You can do it outside like there's a lot of different ways according to you know CDC guideline on how to socially social distance that you could do a properly social distance. Graduation doesn't matter how big the school is. I don't know if you do it outside. No school got football field and tracks and all kinds of stuff. They could do it on. All right, Well that is your front page news now.

When we come back from South Carolina, Bacary Sellers will be joining us. Yes, he's got a new book out called My Vanishing Country. Um, you know, just detailing the story of a young South Carolina kid raised on a dirt road and Denmark, South Carolina man, So sloot to my guy, Bacard. My Vanishing Country is out right now, and he's coming up next. All right, we'll get to that next one. Move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee,

Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest on the line right now, Bacary Sellers. Welcome, sir man. I'm glad to be back. What's going on, fam? Angela Bacari looked like he has got a haircut in at least three months it out. Yeah, he's definitely thugging it out. I'm looking like a young Denzel is the young Marvin gay Guard. Because I'm happy for you, man, you know what I'm saying. I'm proud of you. Your book is out right now, My Vanishing Country. Great read,

amazing read. Thank you so much, brother, I'm so excited about it. It was a you may know this, but I got turned down by nearly thirty publishers for trying to write a book about Yeah, I was trying to write a political book in the age of Trump, and none of the publishers wanted to buy it. I sat down with Tracy Sharad and Patrick Bass over at Amistad, a HarperCollins imprint and told him my story, and they said, you gotta, you gotta write this book, and here here

it is. So I'm just thankful for everybody out there who is in this quarantine period and has a project and they've been turned down. Just keep persevering. That happens to the best of us. How long I'm sorry, yeah, how long has he been writing a book? I got this done in four to five months. And crazy part about it is the book's not really partisan. It's a political book. We talk about the systemic injustices the black folk lived through, but it doesn't talk about Democrat versus Republican.

The reason I had to finish it quickly is because I'm sure y'all are gonna have a guest this fall. The big dog, Barack Obama's book comes out in the fall, and so everybody's trying to get their books out now so they don't happen, because it'll be over this fall. Over. Let's be clear, President Obama is not coming here, Okay, President Obama is not stopping by the breath. He's gonna do exactly what Michelle did. He gonna send it in a nice, pretty box with a card that says thank you, Charlomagne.

You know that's what that's what task gonna be. I thought it was refreshing to see what a positive impact your father actually had on your life from a young age. Yeah. You know, my father was shot February eight, nineteen sixty eight, in the Orangework massacre. And I tell people it's I mean, it's it's rare. I do believe you to be able to come downstairs and in the kitchen have your hero there all the time, and um, you know, just looking back on their struggles, my father was shot. My father

went to prison not once, but twice. He went to prison the first time for refusing to go to Vietnam. He went to prison the second time for being an outside agitator they deemed him to be. They charged them and tried to mean convicted them of rioting. He's the first and only one man riot in the history of this country. But you know, I tell people that the trauma that people of color lived through in this country,

not only was my father arrested. But you think about the fact that my mom had to while her husband was in prison, She had to give birth to my sister, her oldest child, and then lived with that and carry a family. My father had a felony. Imagine having a felony in the South during the sixties and seventies, and

so just living through all of that trauma. And when I look at my dad today, I you know, if I don't pop like they once did, his should, his arm as upright as they once were, and you can see the burden that he's had to carry his entire life. Henry Smith, Samuel Hammond, and dellan On Middleton would kill I'm in arrange word South Carolina and he creay the South Carolina. This country only blame my father. And so this book is a love story to him. It's a love story to the South, it's a love story of

black women. But it's also a chile lenging story to this country to be a more perfect union. You know, when we talk about generational trauma, and you know, based on what happened to your father in the Orangeburg massacre, you know, how do you not hate police officers? Well, I don't hate them. I a I have a healthy sphere of them. You know, my parents when I was growing up, my dad, I think if I'm the Summer's experience.

We never pulled over on the side of the road and at night, ever, you always drove to the next exit. You always drove until you know you could find some light. My father was always saying that, you know, make sure that you listen. We can cite these injustices in the court of law because he knew what happened. I mean, he knew that for eight seconds law enforcement shot into a group of students who were just protesting segregation, and eight seconds to change live, eight seconds to kill three

at wounded twenty eight. And so that's that. Those were the lessons that we grew up with. And I'm trying to grow out of hate. I do have a lot of hate in my heart. It's aspirational for me, but I'm working on my journey. I'm talking a bit Jake's and Tyler Perry and others, and just trying to let all of that resentment and hate go because it's hard to live and be a father and be a husband

while you're still out here trying to hate people. Yeah, you know when when we talk about your father, Cleveland Sellers, the Armsburg mascot, that was the first time in history that police officers face the federal trial for excessive use of force, right, Yeah, and they all were found not guilty. Yeah, but we still see that happen so much today. And you're an attorney, like, how do we as black people ever get justice in the court of law? So, I mean at the people ask me what do I want

out of my life? And I think that the I think envy. You get this too. You know, all we want is our children to be free. I mean, at the end of the day, I don't want my children to have to suffer from injustices because of who they love, the color of their skin, or who they pray to. And I want them to be free. And we're not there yet. I mean, it's it's a it takes more of us, more people going it, more black poke on benches,

on federal benches. That's why this election is so important because what Donald Trump has done to federal benches in this country is something that people have they don't save and it's not their first thought. But he's reformed the

entire judiciary. You got all these young white boys who are sitting on benches with lifetime and appointments, who are more conservative and less qualified that you can ever imagine, and they're going to dictate how justice has served in this country for not just four years, but for decade upon decade. And so it takes more more young people going into law, more young people going to politics, more young people coming into the system to reform the system

and break it down. I was going to ask you, what do you what do you teach your kids? I mean, with everything that your dad's been through and you've been through, and you kind of want them to live kind of a normal life where they're not fearful of policing, you know, So what is your explanation and what are you teaching them? It's crazy. So I have sixteen month old twins. You might hear one or two of them running around here at any moment. And then I have a fourteen year

old daughter. And my fourteen year old daughter she just she just started taking her driving class man, so she's about to have a permit. So if you're any Carolinas, just stuff, if you see her, just just get off the road to see it out the way it out. The way. Yeah, and I'm about to start to go fund me for this insurance. Good God. Putting the children on yours goes up easy. But you know, I tell them to always be unapologetic about your blackness, standing your truth,

and always think critically. Try not to let your emotions consume you. If you're pulled over and you feel like it's an injustice, we will fight that injustice in a different venue. What you tell your kids, because you've got you got kids out, they're driving and doing all types of well, you know what, you know, my dad is a retired police officer, So you know the two things my dad always taught me was one of the police and not your friends. So make sure you understand that

the police and not your friends. If they're asking you questions and they're trying to get information from you, shut up. The police, not your friends. And then also, and the second thing is kind of what you just said, My dad said, you cannot win in the streets. Get home, and we can win in the courtroom. We can win outside of that. So when you're dealing with police out there and there's a prominents a situation, just remember you cannot win on those streets. Like it's the it's their game.

That's true. But you can't win in the courtroom either. But at least you're alive in the courtroom, U brother. But for everybody, listen and let me just tell y'all what you said. What you said is so true. Man, they're not your friends. And so I see part too many people they're given police there. I know this isn't on topic, but giving police their phones, you know, cooperating and trying to talk their kind of situations. And let me just tell y'all that never worked. All we got

more with Bacari Sellers. When we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club, Good morning, when everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee. Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club were still kicking with Bacari Sellers. He has a new book called My Vanishing Country. Yee o, Karry, what would you say one of your kids wanted to go into law enforcement? Oh? I would let them do whatever they want to do, as long as they were dreaming about being the chief of police or the head of

the FBI. I want my kids to always dream about being the best. I want my kids to do anything I want them to be change agents. So so whatever whatever profession you go in, make sure that you are becoming a part of something larger than yourself. You talk about your kids about HBCUs. How important are hbc using as far as your kids are. Are you gonna kid cars that the twins have to go to an HPC I tried. I only brought I brought my kids the only run regular school, the rest with HBCUs. I went

to the Spellman's, the Clocks, the Hamptons, the Howards. I went to all HBCUs. My daughter's like, now, I want to stay close to New York. I want to go to college in New York, and there's no HBCUs to New York. My kids can go to any college they want to go to as long as it's an HBCU. That's the same thing my parents told me. Now, I want my kids, my my my my stepdaughter, her father's Vince Carter, and her mom and my wife went to North Carolina. So she's between North Carolina, North Carolina and

Howard right now. So I got I got a fifty percent chance on that when the twins though, the twins going down to the AUC, they're gonna go to South Carolina State of clapland we're gonna do all of those things that I just think that experience and I talk about it in the book, and that experience is necessary beachause your leadership and not only helps you have dreams and understand that you can compete anywhere, um, but I think it just gives you this belief and reaffirmation in

who you are as a black person. One thing that immediately stands out I should stand out to people when reading your book, My Vanishing Country is the black working class in America. Why does it seem like that sector of America has been forgotten? Well, I mean when you hear and the media does it all the time. Man, when you hear about rural America or you hear about working class America, everybody makes you think that means white American. You know, this is about giving people. This book is

about giving the black folk a voice. I want people to have a sense of pride when they read this book, and I want white folks to get a sense of understanding. You know. One of the things that Bishop Jake's told me when we were having our conversation is that it's crazy because you can teach people science. You can teach people math, you can teach people English, but you can't teach people blackness. And so I want when white folk read this book, I want them to get a sense

of understanding. And I think we'll have a sense of pride from reading him. Yeah, that was a good conversation with a bishop TV Jakes. I was watching his sermon on Sunday. What actually made me go to it? I saw it on your IG, but I didn't get a chance to go to it. But I was watching this sermon Sunday. He ran a whole goddamn promo for a conversation with you and him. Before you know, I go to I end up because you know, I talked about this as well. Last year was such a hard year

for me. Man um in giving birth in January, almost lost my wife. She m she bled out, she lost seven units of blood. And um, you know, when we when I talk about these issues in the book, the political overlay is that whether or not you're you know, Ellen Sellers, or whether or not you are Serena Williams, or you're on medicaid, black women are four times more likely to die during childbirths than their white peers, And so you know, I'm sitting there and at about five

twenty eight, totally born. Five thirty three, Sadie's born. By ten o'clock, my wife is throwing up, she's she's sweating. We pull the sheets back. It's blood everywhere. The nurses are moving so slow. I have to call her doctors myself on the cell phone. I know them. It's three black women, badass black women. They get out of bed, they come, They take my wife in a crash part. They bring the whole emergency team in, and then my

wife goes in ICU. They locked the floor down. I'm the only person up there, and they give me these little bitty bottles with nipples. And then all of a sudden have to become my children's mom too. And so I'm sitting there and you know that prayer that you it's like, it's like a college prayer, but what it's like when you wake up on Saturday morning and you're real, real drunk and you don't feel good, and you like, dear God, get me out of this. I promise you

got again. Yeah, I was taking that prayer like, Dear God, whatever it is, I'll never do, just bring my wife back to the first thirty six hours my wife was in ICU and we literally had to take the kids down in a little bubble to go see her. And then two months later, my daughter was diagnosed with Billy area TREESA, which is a rare liver disease, and for ninety three days she was on the liver transplant list.

And so every day you're watching she was really skinny, but had this big belly, and she was yellow and every time she peeked, it was like this really dark yellow color. And every day she's just dying right in front of your eyes, and you just hope and you get a phone call and get a new deliver before your daughter passes away. Ellen's laying in bed and we're trying to be strung, and she'll ask a question like did God give us Adie just to take her away?

And so we went through all of that, and that said some first, she got to gift of life and she's been doing she's thriving, you know it really well since and then I saw Bishop Jakes at Tyler Perry's house. I was sitting there eating with my good friend Andrew

Gillam and my friend Charlemagne and Angela. We were hanging out and then I saw Bishop Jakeson, ran up to him and talk to him and just just him and Tyler just cried on the shoulder and then so much And since then, you know, they've been there and the brothers have been there to kind of lift me up and renourish and refill my spirit because sometimes after you go through moments like that, as strong as you have to be for your family, you need other people to

be there for you. I talked about that in this book, that going through trauma, it's okay to talk to other people because if you're not healthy, you can't be healthy for those around you. So and thank y'all for the operators too. I know that y'all have been there for me as well that my family has been going through this. So a big things to to you all too, and also to man a salute to Ellen. Wasn't the day the day that you know your daughter got her kidney?

The week didn't her father died a week or something like that. I get this phone call. I'm inter mediation. I got a kid who had a shattered testicle, So I'm up there mediating this case. Um, he took a he took a lacrosse ball to the yeah wow um, And so he had a shatter He had a shattered testicle. I get a phone call and it's my niece who was living with us. By the way, Man, if y'all got any jobs for twenty four year old college graduate. If y'all hiring, man, let me not. I need to

get her out of my house. And so I get a phone call and he's just hollering, man, and she's like, something's wrong with Ellen, and Ellen, just Yellen in the background. They took my father. They took my father. Her father was out there doing what he loved best. He was. He was on his lamb, he was moving moving blocks and boats, getting ready for hunting season, and didn't He had a massive heart attack on his tractor. They found him literally dead on his tractor the way he wanted

to go out. Um. So she goes down to Lancas, to South Carolina. She's spending time and she calls me at like one o'clock. So the heart attack happened in the morning. She called me a like one o'clock and she's like, Bakar, we gotta go to Duke. And I'm like, what's going on what's wrong. She said, they gotta kid, they gotta liver. And then so we're just sitting there and we uh, we go to Duke and we get the transplant. Her father died on Friday, we get the call.

We go to Duke the next day, Um, and we get the transplant on Monday. I sent Ellen back to Lancaster so she can grieve properly with her family. I stay with Sadie in the hospital. I take a little PJ down the lakes. There's the only private plane to fly in the Lancaster County to go to the funeral, and I fly right back and um, you know, we at the funeral end Reverend Lady Johnson, she sayd that her father has to die, had to pass away to go up to heavens to get Sadi's liver for you know,

we so so greatful. Wow, that's amazing. All right, we got more Baccari sellers when we come back. Don't move. It's to breakfast club. Good morning, bj envy Angela, yee. Charlomagne, the guy we all the breakfast club was still kicking it with Baccari sellers. Ye, so Bacari, how is it for you now to be home with your family. So I mean, you know this the best part, man, is that one we don't um. People are going through this

coronavirus and quarantine and they got all these problems. But for us, you know, everybody healthy, so we kind of always joy. This don't mean I mean, this don't mean nothing to us. Well last year, this ain't this is this is what it is, and so we're enjoying it, man. And I'm able to do everything that's entire book tour um from you know, don lemon to I'm able to do uh joy am am joy this coming weekend. I'm able to do all of these things from right, Trevor

know it's a dope, dude. I have a great, great respect I did uh. I love on zan um. But you know this is crazy. I don't know, I y'all knew this. But the two best shows to sell books, y'all know, the two top shows are to sell books in the country Breakfast Club and um Breakfast Club. And yes, Trevor right there, So y'all, y'alla in y'alla in rarefied

air man. That's why I said Barrock's coming, whether or not you want them or not, I hope so Michelle did send me like a nice gift, like it was like, remember how Tyler Perry's invitation was her her book came in like a package like that. Well, my book to you probably just came in a FedEx envelope. I had the advanced copy with the didn't you have a cover or nothing? But but I want you to know you look at the dope picture us here. It has a picture of me from six years old. And then I

got Charlotte, Hillary and Angela Ry on the back of it. Man, So we just I'm happy, man, I'm happy to be able to give a voice to tell the story. I talked about Charleston and Charleston massacre in the book Um, all the trauma that I lived through the successes of being the youngest black UM legislator in the country. But at the end of the day, I just talk about understanding people's trauma. So maybe we can have some compassion

and empathy and persevere to this thing together. And one of my favorite chapters of so, one of my favorite chapters of his anxiety is my superpower. Yeah, man, it's a black man's superpower. I got this fear of death and fear of failure, and so I use as those

things to push me every single day. Lease irrational series, Man, I'm those You know sometimes you get this feeling in your chest or you get I call it getting getting lost in my head and you're like, oh my god, I don't want this to happen before I can finish succeeding or doing this or making my family. And so I just talk. Most black men only think they can talk to their barbers, but we got to start talking to people who do. So what are your thoughts about

this upcoming election? What are your predictions on what you think is going to happen? Man? I came on the show last year, year before last and predicted, well, no, in twenty sixteen and predicted to Hillary Clinton was gonna be president. So I don't know if y'all really know. You don't want to give us addition. You don't want to protict the opposite. You weren't wrong, though you weren't technically wrong popular vote. But she ain't had to work

extremely hard to get Illy on y'all show. We're working extremely hard to get Biden on y'all show. So I think that that's necessary. We're gonna make that happen. But I think that Joe Biden's gonna win this race. I think that it's gonna be extremely close. I think we have new swing states like Arizona. I think that we gotta there. We gotta do two things. One, I think he has to have a black woman on the ticket because black people are gonna vote, don't that's my trip.

Black women are gonna vote. They're gonna vote for him. But what you want them to do is not only vote, but you want them to make sure that they own them phones, that they're getting everybody from the church to vote, that they getting their cousins who just come over, who they get played for it, who come over to the cookout to vote. You want them to actually go out and work, because if it's not a black woman on that ticket, I'm afraid that they just gonna kind of

chill out and not do anything. But two, they got to talk to black men, and for a long period of time, the Democratic Party has not messaged to black men. Thirteen said of black men voted for Donald Trump, some of it was massogyny, some of it's because we're kind of simple, but other the other part was that there was no other message in there and at least Donald Trump talks the black men. I don't believe that BS. Most of y'all don't believe that BS, but there are

some of our friends do. And if it's the only message there that they hear, then there would be more receptive And so we have to fill that void with a positive message. You can't just go out here and tell people that you would not Donald Trump. You got to give you some people of reasons to vote for you. Why do you think this country's vanishing? Because I see it with my eyes. I mean where we grew up

Moss Corner in Denmark, South Carolina. What used to be bubbling economy's upward mobility for people of color are now the small towns, the downtowns are now boarded up. Where I'm from, you live in a food desert where you don't have fresh fruits and vegetables, you don't have access to quality care, you're drinking dirty water, you're inhaling unclean air. So yeah, it's vanishing. And then larger scale, Um, I think that what this country has promised us man um.

But the promises that, by the way, it's kind of crazy. My book came out on Malcolm X's birthday. But the the things that Malcolm X and mart Luther King Junior, and my father and SOCII car Mincaele and Maryon Burry and Julian Vaughn all pushed this country, those promises, they pushed this country to fulfill. I feel like in this era that we're living in now, those things are those things are further away from attaining than they ever were, And so I wanted to highlight that and make sure

that we knew what the challenge was before us. Absolutely well, we vanishing countries out right now, man, make sure you go get it Amazon. Uh did you it's own audible too, right, yeah, audible, but you know that audible don't really count to US Times best Sellers list man, So let's let's go get the Hard Time please, right. No, they got an audio book. They gott not audible, but they have an audio book. If you buy an audio book, they have a whole other list for that on the New York Time. So

you can make that want. I want to make that one, but let me tell you, let me tell y'all real quick, well, I want to make the New York Times best sellers list man, but not just to put it in my Twitter baio. But it's going there. But not just for that, but when if young black authors like myself an opportunity to write, um, we have to do well so that other people have an opportunity to Charlemagne didn't fell, if Mark lamont Hill didn't do well, and Westmore didn't do well,

then I wouldn't have my chance. And so it took me. It still took me thirty times to get a book deal. And so what I'm saying is I need this book to do well. We need this book to do well so that other people of color can tell their stories too. It's definitely going into Twitter bio if it happens, but I want to open up doors for other people that way.

With Angela Ye writes her best selling book, We Gut It and we get together, absolutely country and give your love, to give our love to your family for us too as well. Thank you so much. I means like keep us in your prayers. Thank you all. All right, it's Bakari sellers, It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning listen, it's the Report. Yes, so the barbs are coming at Lisa Ray and Claudia Jordan and I'm not sure if they're

really going at Vivica Fox. But this is all because of some comments that were made on there on Claudia Show on Fox Soul. Now, this all started because of the conversation that Usher had was Swizz where he was talking about a possible battle between Little Kim and Nicki Minaj, and Usher said that that didn't seem right because Nicki Minaj was a product of Little Kim. So here is what they discussed as far as those comments. And I don't know why the fans are getting so angry at

what Usher said. Usher did not slam Nicki Minaj by saying that that is not a dish to her, but it is a fact. Little Kim came up way before her in a crew of all fellas, and she made that popular. So when we get held them together, queens and say that we are acknowledging fat, all of us are acknowledging in fact him came before Nicki Minaj. And so Nicky, just take a seat. You don't have to sit down for long, but just take a bow, just like Beyonce I said, bow down, bitches. I still don't

see what the problem is. Nicki Minaj is a product a little Kim and that doesn't take away from Nicki's great And it's just like Kobe Bryant is a product of Michael Jordan, Like, what's what's the problem. I think they didn't like how Lisa Ray said for her Nicki Minaj to take a seat and just take a bow. So that's yeah, she did say that. Yeah, it wasn't

necessarily just that conversation. So yes, And now the Barbes are going crazy, and Claudia said, wow, now the Barbes have gone too far, threatening to beat her my sixty nine year old mother and now harassing my fifteen year old niece. At the end of the day, what will this accomplish But keep your comma bad and you get brought up on charges. We stay protected, know this, And then she put hashtag over a talk show combo. Then she also said that the Barbs are brainless and soulless. Listen,

you can't go ahead. First of all, Claudia didn't even really say anything. I love the fact that Claudia Jordan said, you could be bought upon charges. That's all you gotta do. Just hire the FBI. They have people that can track down those folks. You know what I'm saying, who make those crazy ass comments to you on social media? Those death threats, if they leak in your address, if they threatening to kill you, that's all illegal. It just takes a little time and a little energy to get it done.

But if they threatening your mom and niece and posting your address, it's worth get one of them locked up. Absolutely, And I'm sure that yes, this isn't how Nicki Minas wants to be represented by her fans. Especially you know, at a time like this, you want to be more positive. If you want to be someone's fan and go hard

for them, keep it positive, say positive things. If you have an issue with what somebody said, you can address them about it, but you don't have to threaten someone's mom or their niece put their FI on their ass. Barbs behind bars should be the hashtag. Okay, let's get some of them goddamn bobs locked the hell up, all right, and let's talk about versus battles because I am so excited I did for this Memorial Day event. It's gonna be Bounty Killer versus Beanie Man. I will be watching

that on the big screen. I was praying for one of these dancehall or reggae ones and this is it. So this event is gonna be amazing and I'll definitely be watching that Saturday starting at apm Eastern me too. I'm gonna have my drinks ready. And BT Awards they will be virtual this year, and so that's the format the annual awards show will move forward. It's gonna be Sunday, June twenty eighth. Usually they have this three day event that leads up to it with the BT experience. That's

not gonna move forward as scheduled. So the rest of it, though, the actual awards will be virtual. And what's whack? That is the first year that BT is gonna be on CBS, you know what I'm saying. So the first year that it's gonna be on CBS is gonna be virtual. I don't like their virtual award shows. I'm overall virtual everything. I hate it. I hate the zoom presenters and zoom performances. I'm done with all of that. But it's just wacking. It's gonna be on TBS this year and it's gonna

be virtual. There's nothing you can do about that. I'm sure it doesn't. Yeah, I'm sure that people appreciate the content as well, and people. I'm sure I can come up with creative ways to perform from home as we've

been seeing happen, So people will do their best. Maybe they'll have a verses during that too, all right, Russell Simmons, The sexual assault accusers that are saying that he assaulted them are doing interviews now because you know that that movie, that documentary on the Record comes out on HBO Matt on May twenty seventh and tells the stories of three women who alleged that he preyed on them while he was overseeing Deaf Jam recordings, And now they have also

done exclusive interviews in this week's issue of People magazine. So the women that you can see on their Drew Dixon, a female employee who worked as director of A and R A Deaf Jam. You can also see still Lie Abrahams and she was a former Deaf Jam executive assistant. And Sherry Scher, who also was an early hip hop artist. Now, Russell Simmons has continued to say that he apologized for thoughtlessness in his relationships with women and even inappropriate conduct,

but denies all accusations of rape. So he is denying that he did not respond when people reached out for comment. But there's a whole profile on these women and interviews that are out this week in People magazine and Timmy Rivera. She has done an interview and she's talking about how she does have a regret, and that regret is having light bo suction done. Here's what she had to say. I've gotten lightpo in my stomach, which I never should have done. It was the worst decision I've ever made.

The reason why I feel as though, because first of all, I didn't need it. You know what the bomber is, cottle that little I'm gonna suck this pouch out, and by me doing that, I feel like the fat deposit in other places. And I've always been, you know, bottom heavy, so now I'm actual bottom heavy. And people like, oh, you got your ass done. I'm like, girl, if I could suck this shout, I would, all right. Well, yeah,

that's the thing, man. Sometimes when you get certain procedures done, you don't think about how it might affect the rest of your body or the upkeeper of it. So that was very honest of her. And you know, she did get a breast reduction, and now she said the LiPo is the one thing that she does regrets. Okay, all right, I'm Antela yee and that is your rumor report. Okay, thank you, Missy Charlemagne. Yes, sir, who are giving that down? K two? You know we need Armando Junior her Nandez.

He is the alleged shooter of Westgate Mall in Arizona. He needs to come to the front of the congregation. We need to have a word with him. All right, we'll get into that next keeping lock this to breakfast club. Good morning, It's time for Donkey of the Day. I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day a little bit of a mill But like other day now, I've been called a lot of my twenty three years, but Donkey of the Day is a new wife. Donkey to Day for Thursday, May twenty first goes to a young

twenty year old man named Armando Junior her Nandez. Hey, he is the alleged shooter of Westgate Mall in Arizona. Now, if you haven't heard, Armando posted a series of posts on Snapchat that said, well he said he would be the shooter of the Westgate Mall. Let's go to KPNX News twelve NBC for the report. Police at least three people have been shot after a suspected gunman opened fire

at Glendale's Westgate Entertainment District. Glendale police believed that a lone man with a gun walked into the shopping complex and started shooting, possibly recording himself on several social media platforms. Right now, we're working to confirm the validity of those videos. Glendale Police have the suspect in custody. In the meantime, police want everyone to know that this is not an active shooter situation. However, the area is closed off until further notice. You see why I had to say a

ledge shooter because they haven't validated the video yet. How much more validation do you need? Okay? When a guy looks at the camera and says I Am going to be the shooter, then proceeds to shoot people on camera, like, what are we trying to confirm here? People? I am fully aware and this is a different era we live in. People want at tension for every damn thing. Everybody knows they can have an audience, and they will take the opportunity to be in front of an audience every chance

they get. Apparently, everything including mass shootings is performative nowadays. Now, I didn't watch this video. There's absolutely no part of me that wants to see people get shot in real life. This ain't a movie, dog, okay, And I'm cool on witnessing things like that. But I did listen to the audio of Armando talking leading up to the shooting. And I'm playing this because I want you to hear how gleeful this young man sounds to do what it is he's about to do. Listen, I'm gonna be the shooter

of Westgate, so let's get this done. He sounds like he's going to try out a new Hamburger everybody's been raving about. Okay, Like like, this shouldn't sound like a routine thing for him to do, Okay. I'm reading the article on the Daily News describing the video, and it says he flashed his beer can and showed his guns in the backseat of his car, and he said, let's get this done. Like, young man, you're not going to work, okay, You're not about to mow a lawn or go tear

down the frame of a house. Let's get this done. Sounds like you're an essential delivery driver who got a long day ahead of him delivering packages the people, and you just want to get it done. Let's get this done, okay. You are attempting to give yourself a pep talk to go do a mass shooting. I'm just confused. Now. Almando went on to shoot three people. As of right now, one of the people injured is in critical condition. Two others were expected to survive following the shooting. Thank god

for that. Okay. Now, in the video, the Daily Mail reports, this guy stood over one of his victims, a young lady, and said society is bullsh Okay. The woman pleads, I have nothing to do with that. You already got me, dude. Let me let me hear that for a second. Let me hear that little clip. You know. Man, Situations like this is why I've been social distancing from large crowds for a long time. This is another reason to stay quarantine.

You would think that during this quarantine people would have started to appreciate life more, but nope, not on mindo. And I'm lying to you if I said I don't feel empathy for him, Okay, I feel empathy for his nut ass because I maintain anyone who is in that much pain that they would want to go out and hurt other people like that. They are clearly a really hurt individual themselves. Okay, he's twenty years old and clearly dealing with a lot of trauma. And when you don't

deal with your own traumas, you traumatize others. Now, in the perfect world, I have two wishes. One, I wish this young man would have received helpful whatever is you know, clearly going on with him, and there's clearly some psychological issues there. But this world isn't perfect. Okay. If it was, that man will be sitting with a psychiatrist or being someone's facility, receiving the type of treatment he needs, maybe being put on the type of medication he needs to

prevent things like this from happening. That's my first wish. My second wish whenever I hear things like this is I really wish these folks who think society is BS, these folks who don't like it here, who don't want to be here anymore, I really wish they understood that is a personal problem. And if they don't want to be here anymore, don't go taking other people out. Take yourself out. You're the one that doesn't want to be here anymore. That woman you had on the ground telling

her society is BS. What does what does she have to do with the way you feel? Okay, she may feel like minus the BS, life is great, So who are you to take that from her? Don't take that anger out on others. If you must take it out on yourself. I personally believe as long as you are breathing, you can reform your life in some way. You can salvage what's left for your life. But I would much rather you harm yourself before you go harm a bunch

of innocent people. Okay, Ormando is now in custody, and I guess you got to look at the bright side. There's a bright side. No, no, there's no guess, yes, there is a bright side. Kid had an off fifteen. It could be a lot more people dead right now, Okay, a lot more people hurt, all right, Clearly there's no there's nobody dead as a right now. Person in critical condition, you know, to an engine and you know it could be way worse. It could be families actually grieving this morning.

But by the grace of God, it's not okay, And we have to be very mindful of each other at a moment like this, during this global pandemic, we all have to be very mindful of each other. Okay. Everybody is going through things. Everybody is at the end of their rope, and the only thing we need to know at this present moment in time is be kind. Okay, be kind whenever possible, and always remember it is always

possible to be kind. Please give Ormando Junior Hernandez the biggest He are very sad situation man, all right, very very very sad that that that a young person would snap like that. All right. Up next is ask ye eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need relationship advice or any type of advice, hit ye right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, what what what? What? What you wanna know? Baby mama issues

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who's this? Jesse hey, Jesse, question for you. Okay, So I have an ex who like crazy and he y. I broke up with him with December and I came home and I don't he's like trying to reach out to my friends, my family, like he never was interested in meeting them, but now he's like making new social media pages. And then now he's found my new boyfriend. He's a stalker. Day yeah, and yesterday day like exchange a lot of words and I don't even know the

whole conversation that they had. But my new boyfriend's acting funny like he hasn't said I one, send it to me. I cook for him, jews say thank you. He didn't say anything or he ate you want to please? He turned to between us and everything, So I don't know, like what happened, Like should I leave him and just

say for me it because I don't know. Well, I'm never a fan of letting x's come between me and my new relationship, so I think what you need to do is let your new current boyfriend no. Look, I don't know what happened, but we're in a relationship. We're supposed to be able to talk to each other about anything. So I want you to let me know what is bothering you. Please do not let this outside person to exactly what he intended to do, and his intention was for us to break up and not get along. I

do not communicate with him. You don't communicate with him, right I Right now he's still on my phone bill, like he's on my contract. So right now I'm trying to contact him to let him know, you know, the phone dudes, dude, and then during girl, you first of all, can't you you gotta get him off your phone? This crazy? Yeah, yeah, like this is the last month. So it's like after this month, like he can get off my plan, like

the contract is up. So I'm like, okay, good, it's only one month, but it's like it's been two other months that I had to, you know, get collect the

money from him to pay the phone bill. And he was like to me out, but it's like you didn't want me when I was there, Like this is type of dude that would tell you to leave, And then when you packed up, he was like no, it's like this happened for like months in a month's out when I'm like, I'm not dealing with his mental stress, like I like my peace and it so here's my peaceful either, Like I have to deal with it, you know, coming into my new situation, I'm like, what the hell? I

don't know what to do? Well, Jesse. Part of this is the fact that you really did not completely cut off your ex. So I do feel like you have to take responsibility for that, because are there things that you are hiding from your current boyfriend that your X could have thrown in his face. It's like, Okay, my ex seen him a video, you know, and that Climba threw him off, and it was like the second time. Look,

I didn't see the video part my current boyfriend. He sent me a screen shot and my ex sent me a screen shot too, but they never sent me the whole message. So I don't know. Look, I'm gonna saying this, I have what was this like an X rated video? Yeah, you gotta understand, of course your current boyfriend feels the way, and you need to be sympathetic towards that, but you

will never cut this X off completely. So first of all, nobody wants to see their girlfriend having sex with anybody, and I think that is completely disrespectful that your ex did that, and that that was me, I would have definitely went and did something legally with him. And if that means I got to get a restraining order, if that means that I have to do a police report, because he cannot be distributing these things that you did in private to people publicly. Next thing, you know, he

might post that online. That's what I'm thinking, like I'm over here losing or you better nip that in the bud. First things. First, cut off this ex loser boyfriend of yours, stop communicating with him, Take legal actions so that he's not able to post this of you that he knows that there will be criminal charges against him if he does try to do that. Let your new boyfriend know that you mean business, right because right now he's thinking

that you still have feelings for your ex. Now he don't seen y'all having sex, even though I'm sure he didn't want to have to see that, and he knows you haven't completely cut him off, right, So handle your business so that you can actually be in a new relationship. You have all these loose ends, but take care of yourself, like make sure that he's not able to do these things that will really hurt you because that's what he's trying to do. And somebody who had feelings for you

would never do that. You know, he was gonna violate me. That's where he was on violent. He's from New York and you know I'm from South Carolina, so all that up North stuffs. Don't go with me. Look, I can't deal with it, all right, but don't saying no games, girl. Don't wait till he does something even worse next right, thank you? You know I don't care handle your business, and I know we're so hesitant to reach out to the authorities, and like, oh, I don't want to know.

I was about to curse, but no, you have to do it. I've had to do it before. And I'm telling you right now you do not want to wait for something even worse where you could be in some type of danger, where something could be spread about you. You don't want that. He don't care about you. He's trying to hurt you. Now it's time for you to let him know. I'm not playing with you either. Yeah,

but he's a cycle past. He takes me after that, and he told me I'll come back home so we can have kids and I'll walk do not entertain him, and you do not entertain him. Cut him out of your life period. There should be no reason for you to. Shouldn't even block him over everything. Now he's to the point where he's emailing me off for different emails like, y'all, I don't know what else to do. Well, good, that's evidence, thank you, right, be like, yeah, keep emailing me, that's evidence.

Keep on creating these new email addresses, that's evidence. Cut off his phone. You got his phone under your phone, veil cut it off? Great, Well, thank you. I need today. You're welcome. But the first time police report, Yeah, do that today immediately. Yeah, I'm about to do that right now. If I hand out, all right, I'm gonna check back in with you, all right, thank you. Put on a hole so you can get a number please, yes, eight

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Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. We're in the middle of ask ye. Hello, who's this? My name is Shaky, Hey, sh what's your question for you? I've been I'm the only one working in my household. And Um, I have a boyfriend of seven years and he's not working, and he hasn't worked the whole time we've been together. So I'm trying to figure out if I should say, if I should say in the relationship or shot just let him go? So

he hasn't worked for seventy years? Why is that? Um? Does he has his own business and he wants to do that? Okay, so he does work. He has his own business. He just doesn't have a traditional nine to five. Yes, Now, why would you say he doesn't work if he has his own business? Does he is? He is working? Out? Is he making money? No? What is his business? I'm just curious, Um, I really don't know. So for seven years, you've been with a guy who hasn't made any money

and has a business, but you don't know what he does? Right? What made you stay so long? Um? I kind of love him? Okay, so you love him? How do you not know what he does? Though? Wouldn't you be wanting to be supportive of such a business to do? Right? Uh? He has different businesses. Um, he does marketing and different ventures. But camera sounds like a scam of mama. I just want to say, I feel like, just from the tone of this conversation already, that you seem very negative and

that you put him down. It seems like a first you told us he doesn't work and it hasn't worked in seven years, but he does, he has his own business. Then you told us you don't know what he does, but now you're telling us what he does. And then you also said you kind of love him. So it feels like you have an issue with being supportive or opening up to him and also letting him lean on you when he needs things. Well, I mean I've been leaned on the whole time financially, right, But you do

still love him? Yes? What do you need in order for you to want to stay with him? There's way out the pros and cons? Like, what would you need to happen for you to feel like money, I would need the financial support, okay, and that can be stressful. And listen, I get it. You stuck it through for seven years and you're tired of being the one that

has to financially hold things down. You want to be taken care of, you want to go on vacation, You want somebody to at least pull their own weight right right, And I know that can be stressful because finances the number one reason that couples argue. So what does he say when you tell him I need you to do something that actually brings something to the table and make some money. He wants me to support him in his business, which you have been and you guys live together. That

is great, okay. So maybe what you need to do is stop enabling him by being supportive of him all the time financially. And maybe y'all do need to get your own places so that he is forced to be in a position where he has to earn money and take care of himself because that might only benefit him in the meantime. Maybe it's not a full breakup, but maybe it's more of I'm tired of having to financially

be the person that handles everything. So I'm going to take care of myself, spoil myself, and let you get yourself on track, and then I think you can see what he does from there, okay, because I do think seven years is a long time to stick it through. You still love him him, but I can understand the bitterness of having to feel like I have to pay

for everything. I have to support you in everything. You're not pulling your weight around here financially, and if that is something that bothers you, I can't see that just going away. And sometimes we do enable people by always making sure the bills are paid, and then they feel like, Okay, I can continue to do what I need to do. But you guys aren't married, right, No, okay, good So because y'all are not married, I don't think that you're

obligated to live with him. And if he takes your relationship seriously and he knows what he needs to do to make things work, then he will step up and do that. I agree. Okay, all right, Well, good luck. I hope you'll work it out. Thank you. It's on him now. You did your part. Yeah, all right, thank you, mama, thank you. She's not much for words. Huh she called you and they want to answer? All right, right, five five one, five one. You got rumors on the way. Yes,

an anonymous NFL player is suing United Airlines. Find out why. All right, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is the Ruble Report with Angela bas Yes, he is preferring to stay anonymous, but he says he was sexually assaulted on a United Airlines plane, and he says flight attendants didn't do anything to stop it, so now he's suing. So what he says is, yes, a woman sexually harassed, assaulted, abuse, and

violated him during a flight. It was a red eye flight from lax to New Jersey. He said it was a nightmare. He said he took his place in a middle seat. A woman sat in the window seat next to him, and immediately, he said he was harassed over the safety mask that he was wearing. He says the woman hit and elbowed him and demanded that he moved seats, and that's when he said the woman was taking pills.

They believed that she was under the influence. He got up to tell the flight attendants about the harassment, and they did nothing about it. According to this lawsuit, the NFL player says woman then started groping and massaging his

knees and thighs. He said that they got up to inform flight attendants, but still they did nothing, and then the woman began to intensify her sexual assault, grabbing and groping his squads and then stroking her hand across his lap towards the inside of his leg near his genitals. He said he immediately got up. He pleaded with the flight attendant to get her to stop, and the United employee did nothing more than issue a verbal warning to

the woman. That's when the NFL player says the woman grabbed his penis and a ripped off his face mask, causing him to jump away and run toward flight attendants. Wow King He was with another NFL player, and that's when the second player says, the woman slid over into the middle seat after he got up and started sexually assaulting him as well. So what they ended up doing was moving the woman to another row without passengers, and both the players were given one hundred and fifty dollars

vouchers for their troubles. But now they went to sue. That's right, take your power back, King. You don't have to be anonymous. Tell your story. Okay. Nobody takes men serious when we make these kind of complaints. This double standing must stop. Tell your story and don't be ashamed. Women can be predators too, Okay. I've seen many a man molested on a flight. That happens. That happens to

Whax all the time. If Wax sitch next to one of these older white women, oh my god, just like who gives her permission to just touch on people like that? They do it all the time. I've seen this a million times. Attendant didn't move the woman immediately, Like, I don't understand what they took for both of them to get sexually assaulted, for them to finally make no why she got off the plane. Yeah, because nobody takes men serious when we make these kind of complaints and situation.

Because if it would have been a guy on the girl had landed that plane immediately, yes, harassed the woman, sexually harassed the woman, they would have landed that plane. And if he complained like that they should have landed that plane, he should he should definitely sue. And I'm monitoring Okay. Now, lebrand Usain Bolt and more stars are starring in Greatness Code on Apple TV Plus, so it'll be Tom Brady more of them starring in Greatness Code

and that's gonna premiere on July tenth. It's a short form, unscripted series that spotlights untold stories from the greatest athletes in the world, So get ready for that. As we know people really want to see some sports. I'm Sean White will be featured on that. Also eleven time world champion sir for Kelly Slater and it's co produced by Religion of Sports, so make sure you check that out now. Tracy Ellis Ross has released official music video for Love Myself.

That's her first single off the High Note soundtrack. As you know, she is in that movie starring as a recording artist Grace Davis. And here is what that song sounds like. I'm a stranger if I don't recognize myself, trying to fix up something real, keep my head down, maybe my phone down, if everybody likes me. She debuted this song last week and a lot of people did comment on that, so that's dope to hear Tracy Ellis Ros singing. She said she had always kind of shied

away from it. When you're Diana Ross's daughter, I can see how that can be intimidating, all right, routine. Clarin absolutely has launched to Protect Your Hands sanitizer and that's for Canadian COVID nineteen relief. So that group has launched a variety of products that will help hospitals, food banks and shelters in Canada. So it's part of the Better Tomorrow collection. And Beyonce has tied the number one record as Megan the Stallion Savage is on top of the

R and B and Hip Hop Airplay chart. That song is number one, So congratulations to Beyonce. She's tied, and she's tied in fourth place with eight number ones on the overall list. Drake is number one with twenty six ushers number two at fifteen, Little Wayne is number three at twelve, and then Alicia Keys, Beyonce, Chris Brown, Jay Z, and R Kelly have eight a piece, so congratulations to her. So Ice Cube says that mister Rogers one sued him

for his nineteen ninety song against his fairy Tale. You know, he was celebrating the thirtieth anniversary of his America's most wanted album. With the digital listening party, he did a whole track by track playback and that's one of the things he talked about was the song against his fairy Tale. So that sample can't be found anymore because it's from Mister Rodgers children's show. But here's what he said, it's a trip because off this song. Mister Rogers sued us.

He was mad because we had we had the mister Rogers theme at the beginning of the show, It's a Wonderful Day and neighborhood and all that, and pursued us and was getting like five Center Records. Two. We took that part off and in one more interest seeing story, mass Appeal has unveiled foul Child, the legend of big El's a documentary. So they have put out the trailer for that documentary and here it is. Big L was as harm as harm gets here like a horror about him.

We kind of knew that that was specially when you hear Bigel it inspired you. Always having that hip hop energy. He's a lumitis lyricist. With the rhythm of his raps, it is so funky, so intoxicating. He's a piller. You have to study him. You have to study as Woody get into his mind how he was thinking. Big Gel. Phil gives me a lot of confidence and rapid competing track from the day they're celebrating the twenty fifth anniversary of Big Eel's Lifestyles of the Poor and Dangerous debut

album back in nineteen ninety five. All right, I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. All right, well, thank you to see when we come back. Happy birthday to Notorious Big. Of course, we got to start the mix off with some big revolt. We'll see you tomorrow. Everybody else the People's Choice mixes up next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We have

a special guest in the building. Now. Yeah, I'm gonna let you introduce some I know. We have Michelle ac and Stacy. I just want to say, well, I'll let you guys. Well, you guys know Stacy who does Wealth Wednesday with us every month. Also Michelle Gaston Williams, and you know her as the author of Clem, which is

the book that we have right here. But also you'll be talking to us about all the different companies that you've led and information that you've gotten as a C suite what would you call it, a executive c suite executive change agent, impact seeker. Right, And we're gonna learn a lot from you this morning about finding our voice, speaking out and how we can actually become the forces

that we're meant to be in business. And also a C is here with us and a C Eggleston Bracy right, got it beautiful, And we know you for a leading Una Leaver in North America, which is a huge corporation. We've worked with Una Leaver a lot thanks to shame moister also, but also Uni leaver o owns a lot of other companies too. Yeah, yep, a lot of beauty brands, Dove, Trust, tom Acts. I have about two dozen brands that I manage.

So when you're in the shower and you see the little Uni Leaver logo, you know what that's all about. We make seven generation, we wipe down, disinfect. This isn't about your personal needs. So there's a lot of things that we can actually relate to your book, Michelle, that we're going to talk about with our own personal experiences. Right, absolutely, all right. So, Stacy, I know you're up here all the time for Wealth Wednesday, but we don't know your

story and how you got that. Yes, the financial coach and expert who you are today? It was interesting. M I'm glad we're all here talking with women of color about how to get to those high level positions, and it's a very different road for us. My career started on Wall Street and I was lucky my first job, I got a really big break in terms of I was assistant to a cash manager and what his job

was to manage the company's money. It was about one hundred million dollars a day, but another company was trying to take us over. I was young, but he still thought I knew his job best, so he gave me that responsibility. So I did that job for many years, which was great, but then Wall Street wasn't clicking for me. I knew finance. I've written since I think I came out of the womb, so I wanted it to go

into financial journalism. So I literally called the Wall Street Journal with that story and they bought it and I started working there as a writer. I moved into their TV department became a producer, so far, things had been easy enough that I hadn't had to face my internal demons, so to speak, that we're going to hamper my career. Because the rubber really hit the road for me when I moved from that producer role to wanting to be in front of the camera and to move into network

level business news. You encounter some one that a lot of us have heard of, Roger Ales, And I think the first thing he ever said to me kind of defined a lot of what happened to me. He looked at me and he said, I'm going to close my eyes and I'm going to imagine what someone who's good with money looks like. Now I'm going to open my eyes. It didn't look like you. Wow. So I very defiantly told him that he was going to have to change his definition of what a business news reporter looked like.

And I went to war and I got you know, I just got myself to a level. I got jobs at CBS, and one thing that I would run into there is I did great being a reporter and business correspondent for the national shows. But those networks make a lot of their money off the affiliates and the Southern and a lot of Midwestern affiliates just wouldn't air me. So they would come to CBS and say, you know, we're not airing her business segment. So they were like

Roger Al's, Yeah, they couldn't. You know, it's not even like I can go to HR and complain. They just couldn't. So I had to find more interesting story. I had to find different angles on stories. We're here, we have to be twice as better. I had to be ten times as good. And I was able to keep myself at a level I worked, you know, CNN, PBS, the Today's Show. I got into all those places, but it was very clear to me. It wasn't clear to me actually what a toll that was taken on my self

esteem and my self confidence. So it's really just believing in yourself and you're you're gonna evolve no matter what's going on in your mind, and just staying true to that and finding what you're passionate about and it does happen, all right. Wow, See, we didn't know all of that about your journey to get here, and Michelle, we read, well, I read somewhat about your journey. We got the book this morning, so I was trying to go through it

as fast as I could. But you have a book out Climb, and you talk about your own journey and how you got to where you got to and how much harder it is for black not just women, but black women have an even tougher time, Yes, breaking into businesses and running businesses and fortune five hundred companies, and you address all of that. So let's talk about your journey. Absolutely. So I started my career in marketing many years ago and in the consumer goods industry, and I determined early

on this just wasn't for me. I just didn't feel gratified. So I left that company worked for another organization where I was able to rotate to different functions within that company, So from procurement to finance, to marketing and you name it. And my last rotation was in human resources and strategic planning. So I've been a diversity practitioner in four different industries, from financial services to consumer goods, professional services. I was

even an entrepreneur for a short period of time. Why is diversity important in corporations and why was the work that you did so important? Yeah, any organization worth salt, in my view, would need to have a diversity equity and inclusion strategy of some sorts if they want to stay in business. Because what we're talking about is this is a business imperative. This is just not the right

thing to do or the nice thing to do. There's an implication organizations that don't embrace diversity strategy because you're talking about innovation and creativity and leveraging the workforce and maximizing and utilizing all the skills and uniqueness that individuals of difference bring to the table. So this is a business strategy. This is no longer about just human capital and people. So in my view, any organization that wants to stay in business needs to embrace diversity and inclusion.

But when do we get to the point where we say, part of my language, before those companies, what's role with a lot of the stuff that we own. It's like we always rely on something else instead of doing it ourselves, you know what. I have struggled with that point as well so much and one of the businesses. So I think it's really important that when you invest in businesses, it's not just about marketing to us, it's about doing something back for us. So of all the businesses that

I've run, I've tried to do that. One of them is Shame Moisture. What we do is we make sure we are investing in women of color entrepreneurs to have their own business. Another one of the brands that I run is Dove. We are the founding member of the Crown Coalition, and Crown is creating a respectful, open world for natural hair. So we are actively supporting and advocating

for change of laws to help us. But yeah, so let's dive more into this though, right because, and we'll use Michelle your book as kind of the center of everything they were talking about. One thing that I thought was interesting you talked about was motherhood and womanhood, right,

not being synonymous with each other. So I would like for you to expand on that because I do feel like people are always like, for myself, I don't have children, I'm not married, but it always becomes an issue, oh well, you don't have any kids, so you don't know what it feels like to be this or you're not a real woman until you have kids. And that was something that you experience absolutely, and I still experience it to the stay and I'm over fifty now, so so I

am a working executive. I am married, but I don't have children, and that comes with judgment. So and in my view, motherhood does not constitute womanhood. You know, I made a decision a long time ago that children were not in my future. It was a contract that I made with my husband when we were dating, you know, he was my then fiance. It's not for everyone, and so I talk about the judgment that comes with that. I got enough kids for all y'all, How did you?

How do you both stand up to that? You know? And for myself, it's like I put it off for a long time because I'm working and that was a priority for me. And so now if I wanted to try to do it, it's late, but I still can if I choose to do that. But I also feel like I'm very confident and happy in the place that I am in life. But just because you're in a relationship doesn't mean that your whole, you know what I mean.

And I think people think that in order for you to be whole, you have to be married, and I don't think that's necessarily true. Now, Acy, let's talk about you for a second and mentorship. So we talk about the importance of mentors. Have you had mentors to get to where you got to at UNIM I have. I have had tons of mentors, and I even like, I think beyond mentors, mentors or people you get insight from,

they kind of show you the ropes. But I really benefited from sponsors, who are people that have said, I want you in this job and I'm going to make it happen. So one of my first big jobs a company that I worked for and retired from after twenty five years, the big job was to be a general manager and there had never been a black woman as a general manager. One of my sponsors said, before I was a general manager, maybe three or four years before Acy, I think you're talented and I want you to be

one of my general managers. So before you do that, I want you to go do this one job. And sure enough, three or four years later, she plucked me even before I thought I was ready. You know, before I was ready, I was the marketing director for CoverGirl and running a bunch of makeup brands, having a blast, and she plucked me to be a general manager in another business. And I thought, I love what I'm doing. I'm not ready, And she was like Missy I said,

this is for you. So I've had mentors, but really what's made a difference from me are sponsors who believed in me when no one else necessarily would pull up a black woman for a big role, and because she believed in me, it carried so much weight and helped me be success be successful. Studies have shown that women and or people of color are typically over mentored and under sponsored. So AC is absolutely correct. We we don't

need mentors. We need individuals in the room who can make decisions, who are influential, who are powerful, who can make it happen for us. Now, and have you ever had a sponsor? I haven't had a mentor. I don't think I've ever had a No, I haven't had a mental or sponsor. Well you never had. Well, DJ Clue was kind of your mentor, who wasn't my mentor. He just kind of just told me about DJ. But he didn't guy me and show me this is DJA. That's what he basically said. He was like a DJ and

he you know, but I didn't have a mentor. Um, I kind of figured it out on my own. Um. Luckily, I'm one of those hard workers, and I definitely didn't have a sponsor in real estate. I have a mentor now that that shows me and guides me when it comes to things. But when it came to this industry,

nobody mentored me. Do we need to be more proactive and asking for mentorship or sponsorship or are we supposed to be approaching people and saying, hey, I really sponsorship is hard, and you know Michelle my dear for Michelle is an expert on this and what she does. But you have to find out what works for you. I find that for me, you have to earn it, but you need the exposure to earn it because we're not

always in the room. And so I've found I've gotten sponsors from people who I've worked directly for, so they know me and so they feel confident that I can do the next job. At the same time, if we just leave it to chads, it may not happen. So some companies have official programs where they have sponsorship and mentor programs that cultivate relationships so someone can structurally get

to know you and put you in a position. The other thing I would say is I believe we have an obligation to be sponsors and mentors because we have to create critical masks. So it starts that there are a few of us, but we have to bring people along and be committed to putting them. You know, other women of color or other women or other people of color and big important jobs. So you could mentor someone else, Oh I do, I definitely I have. I have a bunch of people that I mentor young DJs and and

actually have this. Uh. Her name is Mercedes Walker. She was actually a basketball coach and um, she was a coach member when me and Chris Rock got into it. She was the other coach on the other team. His daughter and my daughter go to compete in school. So I was coaching. Um, you know, we was talking and we became good friends. And I just seen just how much intellect she had, how smart she was, the things that she did, and I've seen something that she was doing and I think she could take it to a

bigger place if she had, if she to help. So I brought her into my company. And I guess you could call her a sponsor because I pay her, but that's a sponsorsor. And I brought her into my company and what she's been able to do for my company in the last like four months has been like just ridiculous. Let's talk about negotiating salaries, because that is something that I always stressed that black women need to do more.

A lot of times we get offered you know what our pay is going to be, and we just accept it and we say, okay, well accept the offer, or we don't go in and negotiate for a raise. So what's some advice that you can give when it comes to that, Because that's something that I personally have had to experience and do. I would strongly encourage everyone to go into these conversations well informed. Do your homework beforehand.

There's glassdoor dot com and other websites and resources out there that can give you the range in terms of the industry and the work that you're going to be doing. I'd also say talk to someone in human resources. I have friends in my ecosystem who I will call to say, this is the the offer that I I just received. What do you think? This is where mentors and sponsors come into play, because I will run things by them as well. And then lastly, it's not just about dollars

and cents. It's the full package. So when you're negotiating the deal. There are other things that you can also look for, like you know, French benefits, you know, paid time off, working from home. I mean, so all of those things that don't necessarily have a value associated to them, they do have value in terms of the overarching and more comprehensive you know position that you're If you would discuss salaries with each other, it happens in the workplace,

at least in mind. Often. I think we should. I think we should. I think it's used against us because we don't. There's a few things in addition to what Michelle said that I would ask always be willing to walk away. Yeah, and so that's one of the things that holds power over us is you know, I have my mother in the back of my head saying, you know, you better be grateful for that good right, right, So you don't want to risk that job, but being willing to walk away will help you know your worth and

get paid for your worth. And then the other thing is not make it taboo because the work place will say, don't talk about salary and these are all the rules. But people that don't look like us are talking and they are more informed, and so we've got to break the taboo because we think sometimes it says something about us,

we might be bragging. I think we need to move past that and establish a circle, just as Michelle is saying, of the right resources so that we can calibrate and were you know, the stats show that we are paid what sixty four cents on the dollar, so and so it's it's bad. So when we start talking, we get informed like, oh really, so I do think we should talk right. Well, I appreciate that you guys so much

for coming to you ladies History Month because this was amazing. Yeah, how can they get in touch with you guys if they want to get in touch with you guys. I'm on Instagram at e Bracing, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Michelle Gadston Williams Instagram, Stacy Tisdale eleven twenty. Thank you, Thank you so much for having you ladies do so much and I know this would be helpful and inspiration. Are there's so many people who are watching and listening. When we

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