Ava Duvernay Interview and More

Entry at Lay and Charlotmagne the guy the breakfast Club bitching. Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Good morning Angela, yee hey, good man, Charlomagne the guy, Peace to the plan. It is Tuesday. It's Tuesday, Yes week. It's tough here in New York City in the Try State. Now the weather's disgusting. Is about forty eight degrees. Yes,

it's disgusting out here. Well, maybe sooner than later people will start taking climate change seriously, because if you don't think climate change is a real thing at this point in the games. Then I don't know what game you're paying attention to. My goodness, it's the middle of May in New York City, the New Jersey area, and it's still cold, you're still got on hoodies. And I don't know what's going on with sanitation, because New York is

disgusting right now. I was just walking walking over here from the park a Lot and it's trash and garbage everywhere. Um, that's been New York since the day I got here, and that seems worse though I didn't get into two thousand and six. New York's always gonna trashy place. If you ask me. You go to so many different other places. It's so clean, so neat they take care that city, New York. It's just disgusting and wonder wonder way it makes you wonder why your tax dollars going right? Yeah,

pretty much? Listen, somebody got to feed the rats rights to New York bigg as hell, all right? The weather for the t a, what would the rat feet? I don't knows. Well. Last night I had a long lad of course. Yesterday we celebrated my eighteenth year anniversary, me and the wife yes, congratulations Again. We got massages and we went to a nice restaurant and then we just had a lot of sex. So it was great, great, great,

great great great for your legs, weak legs. My knee hurts like am over man, I ain't even go from my knee hurts, my back hurt. Once you get up over forty boys, sex, sex especially after midnight, is very screenuous tasks. Name was how all getting up this morning? But yesterday I got it. Yes to hang out with Lizzo. You know, I love her if she just did lip service, So that'll be out on Friday. And then I hosted this braid battle. Shout out to Mimi. She she does

gears here. Yeah, Mimi does gears here, brace for gears here. So I hosted this braid battle. It was really fun to see all these very talented stylists working on you know, different competitions with the braids and everything. Yeah, she gets big gears Envy's wife. Yeah, it gets my wife Asho, who may just be joining us. And she also does my son. She corn rolls my son's heir as well.

She's actually gonna be at the car show this year, and she's gonna be braiding people if you need hair braid during the car show, maybe women or kids or whatever. She's gonna be braiding hairds during the show. She did a last year. Her booth was rampacked, so yeah, it's shout to me me going on vacation. Everybody wants to get braids, and people came from all over. There were people from Houston, from Atlanta, from Jamaica, like literally people flew in for this competition. So it was pretty nice

to see everyone representing Ye put your braiders with respect. Man, braids gonna get enough respect out here in these greets. Yeah, you know how much patient you gotta have the braid. Yeah, some of y'all be bringing y'all little nappy head kids and then the kids only gotta half an inch your hand, and y'all want them to get car rolls right, and it needs the braids. Got to work. Miracles make that happen. They do, They done, they do though. Yeah, she's done

an ALLANIV. Since she's done a while, she's had a bunch of people, So shout to mee me. Now Today on the show, Ava Duvenai will be joining us special coming. Yeah, when they see us, when they see US Central Park five, four part series on the Central Park five. It'll be out on the thirty first from that mistaken that's right,

So we'll kick it with her today. And we got from PAGs what we're talking about you all right, we're gonna talk about this flight that was delayed because the pilot got arrested and you won't believe why, my goodness. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep a lot just to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ mvy angela yee, Charlemagne the God we are to Breakfast Club.

Let's get in some front page news. Now. Last night in sports, there was no games last name, but tonight Game one Golden State Warriors take on the Portland Trail Blazes. Am already YEP. Game on Wednesday. And also the NBA lottery is tonight, and we'll see that the Knicks get the first pick. So I'm excited about that. Yeah, man, I hope that Zion Willison doesn't get kursted and the New York Knicks get the number one pick. He deserves better,

my goodness. What else? Well, as long as James Dolan is the owner of that organization, nothing, nothing will go right for the New York Knicks. All right, Well, for employees at Amazon that want to quit their job and start their own delivery businesses, they are gonna help them out. They are gonna pay ten thousand dollars and three months

salary to help workers start their own delivery businesses. So it's gonna help them out a lot because they need people to helped to deliver those Prime packages and those Amazon branded vans and uniforms. And they had told employees that they could apply to start their own small businesses just last year, but unfortunately a lot of people didn't have the capital that they needed to get their businesses

off the ground. So now they're going to give employees up to ten thousand dollars of the startup money that they need and three months of their existing Amazon got to do something better, man, because these people will be pulling up and you haul truck sometimes with Amazon shown, I go get my pistol. I mean, I'll be nervous because they come up in any type of vehicle. Yeah,

they do that, and they know in my neighborhood. They pull up in like these non descript white vans and you know, for somebody who has been in drug rade before I got PTSD from stuff like that. You can't just be pulling up Mark White vans makes me nervous. What else we got you? All? Right? Now? Nike, according to one Olympic runner, Alicia Montagno, says that they need to do a better deal as far as maternally for

female athletes now. She was known as the pregnant runner back in the twenty fourteen Olympics, and she did a video where she says, basically, Nike's pretty hypocritical, but their inspirational ad slogans and their maternity lead policy because they said if she said, if you want to be an athlete and a mother, well that's just crazy. She said, No, seriously, it's not a good idea. She said when she told Nike she was pregnant, they told her they would pause

her sponsorship contract and stop paying her. So she actually had to tape her abs together and ship her breastmolk from China to the United States during a competition after her daughter was born because she didn't want to lose sponsorships that she had because that's what made up her money. Wow, So they just need to figure out a better way to make sure that women are able to be on maternity leave not be in risk of losing that sponsorship money that helps them out a lot. I'm shocked going

to come to the maternity leave. Nike just doesn't tell them. Just do it. Yeah, I mean they can. They just have to pause their sponsorship. I know, I get it, but I'm playing American Airlines. Let's talk about a pilot that actually ended up getting arrested and the flight got delayed, and that's because the pilot, Christian Richard Martin, was arrested one day after a grand jury indicted him for triple murder.

He's a pilot, Yeah, he's pilot. Allegedly he killed his Calvin and Pamela Phillips of Pembroke, Kentucky, and their neighbor.

They said Calvin Phillips was discovered dead in the cellar of his house from a gunshot wound, while his wife and the neighbor, Edward Dancerro were found dead in a nearby phil So they did not list a possible motive, but they did say that Christian Richard Martin served in the military earlier this decade and was court marshaled in a case involving physical and sexual abuse and mishandling classified information.

So so he was in the military, he might he might be suffering from some type of PTS, some type of trauma. Right. But yeah, that was the crazy magine because people were actually about to get on the flight. It was right there like boarding, and they pilot got arrested. That's crazy, that's crazy. Yeah, that is insane, that's all you know. That's why you when you got to speak

to the apology when you get on the plane. Man, sometimes you just gotta look in the polot's eyes and say hello, you know, just to make sure that he or she is all there. You know what they started doing on Delton. Now the pilot comes out and so reach to everybody. That's kind of They don't always do that, but now in every fight I've been on lately, they

do that. Think about how how we just put our lives in the hands of certain people and don't even know what that person looks like about all the time, you just bought the plane, sit in your chair. You may see the stewardess, but you don't never pay attention to the pilot ever. Right, but that person is about to take us in the sky. Right, Well, I like that new policy they come out, greet everybody. How you doing, I'm your pilot? Yeah, man, all right, well that is

front page news. Get it off your chests eight d five one oh five one. If you're upset, you need to vent hit us up right now. Maybe had a bad night or bad morning, or maybe things are blessed and you just want to spread some positivity. Eight five eight five one oh five one. Get it off your chests. It's the breakfast Club. Go morning, the Breakfast Club. It is your time to get it off your chests. Whether you're man or blast, but people to have the same end.

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello. Who's that? I can't believe it. My name is joy her chest. Yeah you sound joyous. I love the station I always call. I mean, listen to y'all every morning. But I'm from Columbia, SOD, I'm Carolina. My daughter recently moved to Brooklyn, New York. Hey, shout out to bern slew to the Metro two eight oh three was happening. Yeah, she has her own business and she was recently on the Oprah Winfrey Network on Sunday. She's twenty five years old.

Her name is Shadell Calwell, and her business is black Girl Magic with a K at the end dot com. And I was wondering if y'all could just help promote her. You just did. What does she sell though? We gotta know what she sells first? Well, actually, she's a motivational speak up for young black girls. Why she spelled magic wrong because black Girl Magic website wasn't available with the sea it's another black Girl Magic with the cr Oh Okay, that's what I just said. But yeah, I got you.

All right, We'll take you mom. Okay, I'm looking right now. Keep by, yeah, keep it. Getting off your chess. I'm getting out of my chest. I wanted to tell y'all cool, Charlotte Man. The reason why all the crazy people come from Florida because the school system is trash. They sent them up to be crazy. I don't blame y'all crazy on the school system. Now. I think it's the water.

You think so it's the water they're drinking sofa water down here because the bat The bad part about Florida you got educated people who've been to school who's still got some crazy in them. They're so crazy. I agree, all right, baby egg water Anthony. Hey, morning, d James, Good morning, Charlotte mank Mornagually, what's up Anthony? Getting off your chests? Bro Hey, I went to Charlotte May No Chris Rock that he will executive producer a comedy special for him. So why have you never took him up

on that? You know, just get Jarnald Rawlins, Chris Rock and Andrew Schultz and then do it like a little quick comedy tour. Make a couple of bucks off of it. Because because I don't do things for money, and I'm not a comedian, I respect the stage too much. I respect all of those people you just said. And there's nothing harder than getting on that stage with a microphone and making people laugh like that, Like for people to have that expectation that they're coming to see you and

to laugh, and then they actually fulfill that expectation. I would never do that to myself. That takes years and years and years of hard work. All right, this is what I do. I'm I'm on this radio every day. Baby. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And and be on. When are you gonna bring cars through to California? Um? I don't know, I really don't know. We're not actually on radio in California, so I know we're hitting a lot of the markets that we on radio. But maybe maybe one day I'll

bring it to California. It's a long way to bring them cars out there, though. I got a perfect card for the two thousand and nine Chevy equalnocks sixty thousand mills on its first show. I put it right next to Charlemagne's Cadillic Escalator two thousand and two. Remember you gave a story, UM about you being in college and you signed up for somebody that was getting picked on by his kids on the football team. Yes, I finally hurt to believe because you said you were five too.

When you're I need anybody that I was in, UM, that went to school with you back in nineteen eighty eight when you were a freshman. I need someone to come and say that they were on the football team, and that yeah that really we know, we know he's lying, we know. I love your stats, I love your stabs, but I was five two in high school, bro, not in college. He shot up a shot out between between sophomore year in junior. Just because he stood up doesn't mean it worked. I went from five to the six

foot but thank you, though, good stabs. I'm glad you that's not a stab. I remember that story too, And he said he backed down the whole football team. I never said I backed down. I said I said I stood up for somebody that was getting picked on. I never said I backed out. I had to said you backed the ball now. You said you were nas had guns, and y'all pulled them out on the football team and then backed the whole football and said even the load. Get it off your chests. Eight hundred five A five

one o five one. I need somebody stand up for me. Did you got ye get chests? It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up, wake yap. This is your time to get it off your chest with your man or blas. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Dan, Yeah, yeah, oh yeah no. Just just Daniel MB just Daniel from Seattle. Ah my bad Daniel. What's up? Get you off your chests? Are you good? Y'all? Good man? This plager talking to me, y'all.

I just gotta get this off my chest. You're probably all like you know about this five mister Rathburn from Arthur. Uh you know he's about to be coming out. Yeah, it's gonna be a gay wedding on Arthur. Yo yo yo. I'm born in nineteen ninety two, my nineties. Baby, I'm watching it from John. O'm sorry I can't get kiss but it's just funny. Like you see the did you see the clip? You see mostly talking like mister like, how do you not know your old teacher? You go

to his wedding? You don't even know who he married? Like, bro, like I don't even makes like so you mad? Mister Rathburg is gay on the Author TV show. I'm not at he doesn't understand the plot line. No, it's just the fact that he didn't write that some jump street like he didn't get him no type of storyline. He didn't make them fall in love right, none of that. He wanted to see the whole progress leading up to How old are you to be watching the Author? Man?

WHOA I was born in ninety nine? Ten them not like ninety nine, they're like seven eight years old probably. Yeah, he's been following. I'm gonna tell you something though, Man, when it comes to the author and they're talking about in Marvel, comics, they're gonna be introducing gay characters, and some of some of the characters gonna come out of gay. I don't see the need for any of that in my cartoons, all my comic books, Like I don't care about you know who any of my favorite fictional cartoon

characters are sleeping with. I don't need that in my comic books and in my cartoons, Like, what's the point. I guess it's representation because that's really happens in real life. So way, yeah, so he ye, they're superheroes and it's aunt isn't what the author? Aunt eater? Love story has been superheroes all the time. Yeah, I really know. Not in the movies. You tell me, what's the love story in the Marvel movies? I don't know. I was just

thinking about Supermann. I had a girlfriend whatever her name was, Mary Jane, the Superman. Superman had a girlfriend. Lois Lane was around. Didn't the whole a girlfriends? The wholes a girlfriend? I think there's always love line came out of nowhere, chapter snuck in the back door. Sometimes that's right here, I am doing something. So what up? Trav? How you doing this? You know who you look like? I look like Andrew Carlwell, the deliver it guy, and like the

more and more I can never never. I rebuked that in the name of Jesus, Andrew Carwell don't look nothing to like he was hoping he was gonna say more Chesnut. You know my tribe is Jeez Mars Chestnut. You know what I'm saying. Joe Tyson, Blackfoot and them too, black could be part of our tribe. You know what I'm saying. I'm not Andrew car Well. It's not part of our tribe. I just gonna leave out on and be singing. Joe, But what's up track? How are you calling? Listen? I

want to talk about Listen. I hate to talk about the dumb and straight people out there. Today I got to talk about dumb and straight people who sit there and think that having to explain why Rant is marrying art of art on the show are there and it's so hard to explain between their children, and they really trying to make it seem like, I don't know. It seems like every time a straight person drops a movie, I don't see nobody from the LGBT community I hear screaming,

oh y'all are pushing the agenda. Y'all are pushing the attenda. Straighty people have pushing and pushing the agenda on my life since I was a town growing up, I didn't see any representation of the LGBT community as far as cartoons, as far as anything. And I am still gay. So watching TV is not going to turn your children gay, not gonna turn your children straight. If you lose to a turnout gay, his ass gonna be gay anyway. Yeah,

I agree with that. I just think it's weird to say representation matters when we're talking about a rat and the art Bark getting married. Well, it was also because they they are pots to represent two men. And now I can just imagine back in the nineteen fifties when black people first started appearing on television, when they first started having interracial couples on television, the way black people sound right now. A lot of us sound right now. No, no,

not even a lot of us. A lot of y'all in straight community, the way that's y'all sound right now, especially black people. I can only imagine how white people sounded when we first started appearing on TV and they first started showing us and show representation of black people. That sounds stupid, and a lot of straight people going to hell with y'all domination. Listen. I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't care. I don't care either way.

I just, you know, I just I just don't want any I don't want no love story in my superhero moves. I don't care. Are you saying that all they's not a superhero? But you're only saying that now because work, because everybody talking about it and saying they don't want homo sexuality representation. I think it's I haven't cared about it. I never I never cared about love stories in my superhero movies. I don't go watch the Hope to watch him in uh his girlfriend kiss, you know what I mean.

I don't watch Piper Many. Yeah, it is part of the every two cartoon I can think of. I think that they've always had When you think of the Simpsons, they had a man and a woman that was married. When you think of any cartoons, bro Burton Hernie was gay. We grew up on Burton Rnie. They were gay. I don't think they were openly gay. Yeah, they never need to take bath together. Then they used to take bath together, you took a bath with your brother too, or you

know your friends watch each other's backs. All right, Yeah, but exactly what actually really shown it was gay. It just came out to people. Gotta stop being weird. Whenever you gotta drop a movie, We're not gonna scream that y'all pushing that gender, even though y'all always pushing. They just let it. Just let it be. That's all I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you the weird to think about this, y'all acting like y'all watch author, I

watched no goddamn author. Only the coolest author been in the last twenty years is the memes with his fist balled up by There's a lot of issues here for you, damn author eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If you need to vent, you can hit this up at any time that you've got rumors on the way. Well, since we're talking about it, let's talk about Girard Carmichael and his home video is his latest HPIO special, and one thing he does discuss is his own sexuality. Are

you telling me that Girard is the art mark? Possibly? Alright, turn into that next keep been locked as to Breakfast Club, God Morning, the Breakfast Club. It's about who's report is the rumor report? Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. Well, Steve Harvey is no longer hosting The Little Bit Shot Show, That's a kid's Talent Show when they return to NBC. He hosted the show for the first three seasons, but

now Melissa McCarthy has taking over those duties. In addition to that, we told you previously that his Steve Harvey Talk Show is also coming to an end. His daytime talk show Steve is canceled after seven years with the network, and Kelly Clarkson is going to have her Kelly Collocson Show in its place. Well, you know, he's still executive producing, a co creative a Little Big Shots, so he's still getting a check, yes, and he's still on Family Feud as well. They said that they ended his talk show

because he had a higher percentage than NBC. Is that true.

I don't know the reason why. I know there's a lot of talk about reasons why, and you know, and I remember he was upset because he would have liked for NBC to reveal the news to him personally instead of him finding out in the press because he found out the same way everybody else did, and so that's kind of found Who the hell watching the Kelly Clarkson Daytime Talk Show though, I mean it could be good, but yeah, we don't know what it's gonna be like

it don't It don't look appealing on paper, yeah, I mean, you know, it's a lot of day time talk show hosts previously that I used to enjoy watching and I didn't know who they were before their show. So as long as no personality can make it work, I don't know where personality is like. To be honest, I don't really know. I never paid that much attention. Daytime talk is tough man, all right. Now, Lee Daniels is being sued now, and this is by Rachel Roy and Syndia Morale.

So to Damon Dash's exes, now, we told you that he settled everything with Damon Dash, Lee Daniels did, but now they're saying that they want to get the money directly from Lee Daniels because they say the money that he agreed to pay Damon Dash is there's really because he owes money and back child support and other expenses as well. So that mean Lee fault though, Like why

he's suing Lee. I guess he's trying to They're trying to go directly to him to get that money that he's going to pay Damon Dash, So it goes directly to that they want to cut out the middle man. I mean, they are suing. I don't know if it's gonna work out, but they're trying Lee. I'm like, already passed that money over. I gave that bag away already. In the meantime, Empire is ending after season six, after the next Upcomings sixth season. They did make that announcement.

They said, that's going to be a television event and we're trying to go out guns blazing. According to Fox Entertainment CEO Charlie Collier, he said that he said, you allow fans to lean in and have the ending they deserve. So I don't know what that ending could potentially be like, but they said at this point, they also have no

plans for Jesse small Att to return. They buggin they need to let Jesse write the season for Natalie because there's nothing that they can write that's going to be better than with Jesse concocted a couple of months ago, he's stupid. All right. Now, let's talk about Gerard Carmichael. He has an HBO special and that came on Sunday, and he's revealing a discussion that he had with his mom.

It's Home. It's called Home Video. So it's the first of two specials which he's having intimate conversations with his family. He went back home to North Carolina, sat down with his mother for a Q and A, and had his mind reflect on different things. One thing he talked to her about was bringing home a white girl. While bringing home a white girl, what's your reaction to me after we leave, I'm gonna have to process it. I just really want you to celebrate it. Embrace black love. Does

that mean that? I don't if I did, Mary, But if you did, embrace black love. When you have a black partner, you can embrace without being involved, can't you. Yeah? Yeah, hey man, tough time to bring home white women. Blame Trump? All right? All right? In addition to that, he asked his mother if she's ever had feelings for a woman, and here's what happened. You ever been attracted to a woman? No, I mean, I don't mean that ugly, but no, I

don't know. I prefer man, I hooked up with dudes before. Okay, well that's your option drawed out here trying to steal mister rat burn shine. All right. I saw that a few weeks ago, you know, because and I remember Gerard saying that, but I didn't. I didn't think anything of it. I actually thought he was joking, joke, sarcastic. I thought he's having real conversations. I mean, you can't never really tell with comedians man. And then and I also said,

why would you have that conversation with your mother? I've never talked to my mother about someone I was having sex with, so even and even dawned on me that he said he slept it other dudes. I was just saying, why would you be talking to your mom about sex. I'm sure your mom knows, Charlie. I'm sure I dull, but you know, I've never sat there and had the conversation with it a dude, with anybody period Like that's why why would you have that conversation with your mother?

And have you had that conversation with your mom? No? Yeah, but he's doing home video, so I guess the whole point of this for him to have these conversations that he's never had before. That's probably the candidness of it comes from the fact that they've never had these discussions. I've had a lot of handy conversations with my mother,

but I've never told her about who I was sleeping with. Yes, So that's probably why it's fun to do something like that on camera, because it's interesting to see what her response is because he's the things you guys have never discussed. Yeah, and that's what I thought. I thought he was just trying to get a rise out of her by saying that.

But I won't say though. I love the fact that you know, it isn't really news, meaning that a person saying there slept with a man doesn't need a press conference, doesn't need to be breaking news. If if that's what you do, that's what you do. All right, Well let me as you like. Yeah, and that's your room of report. All right, thank you, Mischi fromt Page News. What we're talking about you, Well, let's talk about some body else who has just joined the twenty twenty Democratic presidential race.

All right, we'll get into that next. Keep the lock time. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, Good morning, everybody is dj mv Angela Yee Charlomagne that God, we are the breakfast Club. Let's getting some front page news. Now. No games will last night, but tonight the Warriors take on the Trail Blazes. And also is the NBA lottery, so I'm sure the Knicks will get the first pick. Good

luck to the Knicks. It's a damn shame that all y'all New York Knicks fans are wasting y'all prayers, wasting God's valuable time sending that energy of asking him if Zion Wimson can be y'all number one pick, please give us the number one picks we can get Zion Wimson, stop wasting your time, Godson and all in prayers. This bandfold. Now, what's gonna happen? It might let us you're talking about you,

all right? Well, Montana Governor Steve Bullock is now saying that he's joining the race for the twenty twenty presidential election. So he's telling voters that he succeeded as a Democrat in the state that's very Republican, that would make him an ideal person to take on Donald Trump. So that's somebody else who is now joining this race. He's the third governor right now. Two dozen candidates, majority of y'all, A large majority of y'all in the Democratic Party that

are announcing y'all candidacy for president. A lot of y'all just wasting time. At this point. Our Democratic nomination field is too crowded. This is like back in the day and wrestling, when everybody started joining the nWo and after a while you just stopped caring. That's what this is. At this point, he's the only state wide elected official to win a state that Donald Trump carried in twenty sixteen. So that's where he's really going off of right now.

He needs to raise money and get enough supporting polls to qualify for the first debates, which is in June. For the Democrats, everybody or everybody already stretched out. It's seventy three nominees now. Jerry has given a two billion dollar verdict that's in favor of a couple in California. They say their cancer was caused by long term exposure to Monsanto's popular weed killer called Roundup. According to the attorneys, the verdict is because they said basically using that is

what caused them to get cancer. So two billion dollars. Verdict is with this couple one. But unfortunately they have cancer. Cancer. It's not even worthy. That's not even a fair trade. That's not even exchange. Right, anybody out there that thinks otherwise, y'all got your priorities in life all messed up. And I'm sure they'll never get that two billion regardless. Most companies of file bankrupt and they'll never get that money.

And if they do get a percentity of that money, is probably gonna take a while for them to get it. And you know that whole couple of years it's gonna take, they'll be battling cancer. Nah, they're older couple too, So Lord have mercy and some positive news. Amazon is going to start paying their workers who want to start their own delivery businesses. They're going to pay them up to ten thousand dollars and three months salary to help them

start their own businesses to coming entrepreneur. So what they are looking for is for people to start their businesses doing Prime packages deliveries and Amazon brand advance and with Amazon uniforms on. Now. They had announced back in twenty eighteen, just last year, that they need people to actually do these jobs but I guess a lot of people didn't have to start up money. So now they're offering their eployees up to ten thousand dollars up that startup money.

Very capital. They need to start very important. They need branded vans, branded vehicles, and they definitely need uniforms because they'd be pulling up and then you know them non descript white van. Yep, you know what I'm saying. I've been in. I've been in kicked dogs before. Okay, I got PTSD from stuff like that. You've got to be pulling up in white vans and jumping out. Yeah, now I'm with y'all. I let the dog out on somebody the other day. He had a big U haul van

coming up my driveway. I opened it almost geared the issh out of me. All Right, if you see that white van pull up and you start thinking you gotta go flush stuff, and you're like, man, I don't live that life. Ain't live that life in twenty something years, well, I didn't think I had to flush anything, but it made me kind of nervous. You don't know my life, all right. Well, all right, that is your front page news. Okay, thank you. Now when we come back. Ava Duvenai will

be joining us, Queen Avau. We're gonna kick it with her. She has a new show coming on Netflix. It's called Up When they see Us. When they see us, it's all about Central Park and the Central Park five. So we'll talk to about it. Please make sure it's all it's about the Central Park five and ain't about to depart from the Central Park five. Yes, so we'll talk to us when we come back. Don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Comoro envy Angela yee, Charlemagne the guy. We

are to Breakfast Club. We have a special guest in the building, the queen director, miss Eva Dupina. Let's talk about this this when they see us, when they see if we needed another reason to hate white, Oh goodness, it's very triggering. Oh my goodness, very triggering. Yes, yes, yes, man, it's like but I knew that going in that it was gonna make me feel that way, right, you know, But I don't think I did that. You. I love

that you did. You did a great job of humanizing these kids and showing their lives and how innocent they were and how that was taken from them. Why was that important? Well, I mean, it's the story of of black and brown boys all over this country for generations

and generations. And so this case is this this this film, it's a four part from AMO, a small series, is on its surface about the Central Park five, but it's really about all of us, both of you, you know, and the assumption and of criminality and that is put upon you when you just walk down the street. And so it's trying to get under that and understand why and how that happens and how it fits into the criminal justice system. That the criminal justice system is really

built upon this deep, deep bias. And we know that because we feel it and livid. But when you do it through the case of these boys, which is a real extreme case, it really allows you to show all the levers and the looks and grannies of the criminal justice system to people that don't know and for people that take it for granted. And so I think this is my goal, is to try to explain a little bit more that we are caught in a system that needs to be dismantled. I hated it and I loved

it good. I hated it because that's the best review I can hear. It made me dislike so many different people. I came so many different people, white people, may prosecutors. It made me hate what they did to those young men, made me hate people so bad, just the way they took advantage of them. But I loved it because it was a story that I could never retell. You know, I'm from New York, Sol I grew up through that story.

But I watched it with my son who's fifteen years old, and I watched it with my daughter who's seventeen years old, and just watching their faces and asking too many questions but that they can't do that, and I'm like, yes, they can and they will try. And being able to have that conversation and say, hey, just let you know that if anything ever happens, just no, the police, not your friends. Yeah, you don't say anything without a lawyer. You called me first, and it was it was easy

to have that dialogue with them. Yes, Oh, I'm glad you watched it with them. I think it's a good piece because we take for granted what I mean at the time, when you look at it like now, we feel, oh, we would never go into an interrogation room and talk like those boys talk. But we're not fourteen, fifteen years old. What if you weren't there in the room. That's what happened to these boys. They kept their their parents out

of the room. So if your kid, did you think, is is street smarter, knows everything or you've taught everything? Your kid was in an interrogation room, picked up for something they didn't do, which could happen? Would they know what to do? I've been in that same situation. The first time I ever got arrested was for Sultan Bradley would intent to kill And I was in the back seat of a car with some of my homeboys and

my homeboy shot out the car. And when they came to arrest me from high school, in my mind, I'm thinking, like, I'm just in the principal's office, so I'm writing statements, but I'm lying in the statements, and I'm saying I got picked up by a hitchhiker, but I have no lawyer, no nothing. But I didn't know that I had to write to remain of cold and I wasn't supposed to be norm Yes, that's exactly what happened to these kids, right and so, and also the pressure of that police authority.

They're telling you to do it with an authoritative voice, and you were wired to do it. And so the piece beyond just being I think a compelling piece and a piece that has a lot of emotion to it, a lot of joy. It's real triumphant piece about over tragedy, this this overall story. It's also teaching folks how to act around police and police aggression and what not to do. Yeah, how difficult was it for them to relive this situation?

It was. It was you know, the five real men living, still living, still thriving, and they were really around the production, so they worked with me. I want to make sure that I was telling their story because even when they were young, those statements that they made were coerced. Those are not their voices, so their voices had never really been heard. So I want to make sure that this story was their voice heard, and so they were around

the production. I researched this for four years. I started on this in twenty fifteen and pouring through all the court documents, all of the press coverage, but really listening to them sitting down, listen to the stories, their family stories. So they were very involved. They were on the set, they were there. It's it's there, it's their story. What made you do this story? What intrigued you about this story?

Raymond Santana, one of the men, actually tweeted me and he said, what, it's going to be your next film after Selma CP five. So I slid it to his DMS and I said, no, one has your story and he said no, and I said, I'm going to be in New York in a couple of months, maybe we'll get together. Did And from there I got just pulled into the story. That's the greatest DM slide I've ever Everybody,

all right, Wow, that's how happened. It's interesting, though, because I always I thought this got pinned on these kids, what you did with some of these people, especially that blind detective. Oh my god, I hate her. She really thought these kids did it. And I was wondering that she really believed they did it, or was it because they were black or because there was so many raps going on in the city at the time, Like what

was her reasoning for going? Yeah, I mean, I think I think people have to come up with that conclusion when they watch it. The big question is why why did they do it? Um, there's a lot of different answers. But to this day, Linda Faerstein, who you know lives in New York City and who's now a crime novelist, um uh, maintains that they did it and there was

never any DNA, right. But even after the man came out and said I did it take by blood and they took his blood and they knew it was him, and it was returned and they were exonerated and they got forty one million dollars from the city, she's still maintained that's crazy that they were involved. They don't want to admit, Hey, we were wrong. That's that's what That's what she says. And Donald Trump never apologized. No, he's the same. He still he says they did it too. Yeah.

And for people that don't know, Donald Trump actually put out a full page ad in the paper for New York papers for papers, Yeah, trying to get these kids convicted, yes, well, not trying to get these kids convicted, training and get them executed. Definitely. He called for the death penalty before their trial. Fourteen to sixteen year old boys. Called for the execution of of these boys before they had even gone to trial. Was two weeks after the arrest that's

how many times did you cry? I did a lot. I cried a lot making Thirteenth, I cried making Selma And this though, it was just really tough because the boys they were just they were just young boys. And when I still see the five men now and I talked to and they've all become I love him like brothers. I really do. Um. I see the boys in their face, I could still see the young boy. Are there any lifelong dramatic effects these these guys are dealing with today?

Gotta be right? Yeah, yeah, I think they're all working really hard to to to stay focused on life and hill. But yeah, even even Corey says, um, you know right now he's living life after death because he already you know, feels like he died a couple of times in prison, the things that he'd gone through, and you see that in the final episode, and so um, so yeah, it's it's it's tough, but hopefully this piece will help. We got more with Ava Duvenai when we come back. Don't move.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Ava Duvenais, who has the Netflix series coming out. When NAC is talking about Central Park five now, they said, you interview people on both sides, the young men and the police. Now where the police apologetic at any time? No, I really had hope to find one. I'd hope to find one. I'd hope to find one. Very few of them talk to me. Some of them

talk to me off records. So some people on the other side did talk to me, but that side doesn't know that they did. But they weren't apologetic. They were kind of like, this is how it happened, and you know, very matter of fact, like we did our jobs and

they did to their jobs. Because the job of the police is unfortunately in this teen age I believe in the way that they've been trained and the way that they've been mismanaged and under supervised on the job of the police largely not always just as it's keeping order. It's quote unquote law laws are just in order, which is not always just. And so the idea that that they would ever say, oh, no, this was wrong, it's not a part of the way that they're trained there

to keep law in order. And you know, in their point of view, they did because I'm like, how do you keep order if you're locking up the wrong people? Could that means that the people who are actually committing the crimes still on the screet. Well, they mean that's the question of the woman who was raped Trician Miley. You know, for a long time, the wrong people were locked up for her crimes, so her the man who assaulted her and raped her and violated her was out.

He killed somebody else, He raped another woman and killed some so, UM, it's just it's just this rush to judgment. I was reading this incredible thing during that time in New York City. It was a study done that ninety percent of the articles about this case never used the word alleged for the boys. They it wasn't like alleged rapist, alleged, you know, assault, they were just it just said that they did it. That's the New York Times, the New York Daily News, and New York was all the New

York papers. UM really did not cover this properly, didn't ask the second question, just believed what the state said, UM and took it as fact and then basically buried these boys. And the first episode they will shoot the victims that you know, weren't even of aged being interrogated unless they had an adult there. But they were still making deals to sign a confession. So do you think we'll see any repercussions from those cops that were depicted.

Do you think they'll be upset? Um? Maybe we didn't make them lie. Um. These are the stories of the men, and this is what the men told me. And so we've believed the police side for you know, thirty years, and so now it's time to listen to and believe the men who've now been exonerated. They were innocent. All that was done in those precincts, all those confessions, all that stuff has been overturned. It was all eyes. It

has been overturned. The men are free, innocent, and so everything that we're watching, I mean, don't be mad at it. You convicted these boys and you were wrong. I mean, but I'm sure they will be Did you did you get a chance to talk to the Jagger and his family and all that? Now? I reached out to her. She she she wanted to keep her privacy, so she did speak with me, but I tried. That's probably so traumatic for her, so she probably don't want to talk

about that. Yeah, No, she talks about it. Okay, she talks about a couple of Yeah, she's written some things, and I think she wants to pick and choose what she speaks to about it. But I figured she was going to say something like these kids didn't do what I feel. So no, she's never said that. Just this past summer she came out and said, I don't know that they didn't do it, but you know, I'm not sure.

You know, I'm not sure, and so usually shit said I just don't know, I don't remember, But this summer she went a little further and she seemed to be, um, you know, feeling like they might have had some involvement. And I think, you know, it has to do a lot with this campaign that um, the state side has been launching. They've released released all these new documents. You know, you have Linda Fairstein out a flurry of articles last summer when the when the new documents were released, kind

of defending their side. And it's it's kind of like, you guys knew all that these men are free, innocent or exonerated, so you can keep telling that story, but now they have their story on record, and and my thing is, we just need to always hear two sides of the story. You know, you can't be out there for thirty years only saying you're a piece. It's like

Trump and the smaller report. It's like I'm gonna get out six weeks before and just keep saying, ain't nothing in the report, ain't nothing in the report, and then people start to believe that some when the report comes out, it's got all this stuff in it. Oh, we're already wired to just believe the first thing. Get to interrogate the news, you know what I mean. We're we are not free unless we can really free our minds and gain knowledge. You cannot take everything on the pace value.

Nobody does that no more. Everything's so surface like and nobody cares about the truth when the lives more entertaining. So it's just like, well, that's why I think places like this are important. I remember the first time I came in here, it was really scared. Wow, I don't know, I was scared of you guys. But um, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what's gonna happen. But anyway, that was scared. That was scared. But um, but now

I start to listen to it more. It's just places for conversation about things, and where we talk about things, we can drill down and get beyond the surface, beyond the click, beyond the tweet or the ig store. You do realize you intimidate uh, people walking the room. But when I when I interviewed you a BT, I was scared to death. Well, because that's such this your comfort zone. That wasn't your comfort zone. Now you're on TV doing even when you coming here Now, I'm like, all right,

clean up, guys, all right, I've never seen them clean up. Now, show up. The valerie just came up. Came you don't clean up when you came. He was like, we got to clean up up. But it looks lovely, thank you. It looks really fantastic. You know what I noticed about you, I noticed that you listen intently. How did that help you with the director? Um? Well, I think people will tell you what they need and what they want if you just listen. But most of the time, when Pete,

when you're talking to someone, you're talking to someone. Most of the time they're thinking about what they're gonna say next, truly, And so if you can just wipe out what you're gonna say next, and just look at the person that I connect with them on what they're saying. You're gonna get so much, gonna learn so much, and you're gonna know what to do and say. I just think most people are just trying to get their peace in and be heard because everybody wants to be seen and heard.

So that's just something that I don't know how I practiced that. I probably got it from my dad me to stare you down. Listen. Yeah, that's what you do, like when we have you a question, like you can tell you're really absolutely Oh, okay, we're good, Thank you. Now, What's what's the next project that I know you finished with this? This one's coming out shortly. What's the next project? Something else that you somebody hit you in the DM

about another passion project? So much I get on Twitter almost every day, maybe two dozen things, Hey make this story, or hey but you should do this, or you would kill this or I saw this article. It's crazy and it's an honor that people think I can tell whatever story. Um, but Queen Sugar comes back in June. I've got a new show that we're doing called Chairs Today. A new romance romance Drawa that's coming on, So we're starting to

write that. Working on this Prince documentary. The estate m you know, allowed me to be involved in telling his story. So I'm in the vaults and I got all the costs from the beginning to start everything Wow, cradle to the unfortunately, and just getting into all his music, so much music that we never even heard. And I could just sit there and listen to unreleased music. See the lyrics that he wrote in his own hand on napkins from cafes and in Europe, and like incredible, incredible things.

A lot of wrote a lot of lyrics on notepads of hotels around the world, so it would just be like next to his man and he write things down anyway. Fascinating brother. Um, So working on that and uh and yeah, just trying to, you know, make sure that the story gets out and people see it. All right. We got more with Ava Duvenet when we come back, don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlomagne, the guy we all to Breakfast

Club were still kicking it with Ava Duvenais. Charman, you know, as a creative. You know what I'm saying, somebody who expresses themselves. What do you think about the Facebook band? If you think since the Shipokah, do you think sensorship is is warranted in our society? Well, Facebook is a business, so I don't think. You know, censorship of of kind

of public expression is one thing. But you know if you and I started you know something and we didn't want him on it, yeah, and we would just be like, you can't come, I cannot do this. So it's it's I mean, I we we are. We have to remember when we're dealing with Twitter and IG and Facebook, we're participating in you know, the commodification of our expression absolutely, and that at any point if that is is is you know, um assaulting their ability to make money, then

we then we're then we're off. We've become unimportant. Then we can get kicked off. So you know they're advertisers and everyone's up in arms about those people. You know, that's not a free space. So what's young black creatives? Because I always say that we don't own any of those platforms that y'all are giving out all of these free materials. What should young black creators do well. I think you should use it to further your own business, but just to be really aware that you know, these

are not free spaces. These are commodified spaces. And to make sure that you own your own I mean, own your own content, own your own spaces. Man, I'm trying to I'm really talking to peopleout owning space. There are own spaces, you know, our theaters, our community centers are

our offices. Um, so I think that's that's important. But but yeah, if you if you're on them with the knowledge that I'm participating in this exchange, you know, then then you'll be much more um, you'll be protecting yourself much more than thinking that you're just you know, actually in a free state. How hard is it for you not to stunt because you are a boss? Not to what stunt? What stunt? I know what it means, Say

what is he taught? We know that you are boss, and we seen one hundred million dollars deals with Netflix and all of that type of stuff, Like he's a he can't your money. Every can't everybody money. But I mean it's not the money, it's the fact that somebody that does the type of art you do get rewarded in that way. You know what I'm saying. You do things that matter, you do things of substance, and you

get rewarded for To me, that is what inspires me. Yes, well that's one hundred million dollars with Warner Brothers, not Netflixs. But but that's a little stunt right there, you know, just no, but it's only Likelix. But it's it's it's it doesn't go in our pockets. It goes to make things, you know what I mean. And so if they're gonna give me the kinds of things that I make, which I'm trying to uplift people, I'm trying to center black

and brown people and women. I'm trying to be able to have that kind of wherewithal to tell these kinds of stories. Um. I was just like, let me grab this before they change their mind and make as much as I care while I can. Um. And so that's the thing, it's just like how much can we make? How much can we do? You know? You look at lean Away to the East Ray and Jordans and Coogler

and so many of us. You know, I was talking to an older U creator who was saying, guy, you guys are going so fast, Like you guys have one hit and then pop out with three shows. It's like doors open. We try to rush in and do as much as we can before it closes, but also just to put out as much in this era. But it's a good time, so much out. But people are working hard. We also have to have self care. Every time I see my Carmmands, I'm like, are you taking a vacation,

are you resting? Have you bought your home? Like? You know what I mean, Like, let's make sure that everybody's taking care of themselves, you know, and shout out to John you know who Singleton. You know, he was someone who you know, really did that. You know, he looked after all of us. He would call and you know, you'd see you out. He'd come and support and you know it's one of the real, you know, few people of that generation who would actually reach out actively or

come show up to your thing as a filmmaker, you know. Um, And so we just have to keep doing that for each other. He was a great example of it. Rest in peace. Well kind of influence did he have on a young abel? He did, you know, because he went from around the same place. I mean he was South centraum Compton. It's not that far actually physically it's a little far, but it's the same kind of environment. And it was very supportive. Became from my first premiere in

my fifty thousand dollars film he Um. He you know, always was encouraging and so I remember seeing Boyslhood and being like, those are people in my neighbor. Like that was the first time I saw them fully rendered on screen, not being like the thug that held up you know, Beverly Hill's coup or whatever, but like as as real people. And uh so it was it was huge. It was huge. It's a big it's a big loss because there's so few of us. It's a very small tribe out there.

If people do it, um, it's a lot of people that can, but there's just a few that have been able to make it through. I mean, when you count on both hands all the filmmakers, there might be twenty twenty five. So to lose once early, um, it's something that we haven't really dealt with. Like when you look at our space, we haven't lost any black filmmakers who you know who we're still in their working prime. So it was it's devastating. What is ABA doing for self care? Uh?

I do meditation. I Hi, I need to do more, you know what I mean? I really really need to do more because I'll be working on these things that are super I don't know, dramatic, violent subject matter. So I really need to do more. So, UM, I'm gonna take that encourage. How do you let it go? Um? I don't know. I don't have a real practice. I wish I could say something op like, but I really

I really don't know. You know, she really helps we Usually I'll call her and it's such a blessing to be able to pick up the phone and like it's actually her other line. I'll be like, this is what's happening, and she'll be like okay, and it should just talk to me. And I mean like it's like therapy really is. She's just like the world's world's greatest therapy that was called a stunt leader. You know what I'm saying. Right now? Time you got time? Right time? It was not you

know you know, um when they see us. One thing that I love is um it really put me back to that that era good from the music. As soon as it starts, all good you know, how how hard is it to really go into depth about all that because you know, I'm look, I'm looking at everything. I'm that type of person. I'm looking at the police cars and I'm looking at the cars, what they're selling in the store, what the kids are wearing on their feet. Good, But like, how deep do you go with that? That's

what the director's job is, all of it. So every piece of the costume, everything that everyone's wearing, the production design, the way it looks. We have to go out and scout location, scout, look for those places in New York City that you can age back and make look like eighty. It's hard. Your city has changed. We look at pictures like so much has changed the way that signs were back then, cell phone, shoes, cars, all of that. A

lot out of it. We have to change digitally, um and in visual effects, but try to get it as close as possible. I was looking for a Starbucks copy. Now quit because do you know how many people had do you know how many people that passed through? No? No, from the set. Okay, everyone is standing on the set.

Then it goes to the editors. The editors watch it, then it goes through then everyone at Netflix, all the producers, the colorist sorry HBO, all the colorist, there's somebody that goes in and adjust the color, and the sound team. They watch it on a big I can't believe nobody saw it. Yeah, it's crazy, it's almost they told me. My friend Victoria Mahoney texted me and said somebody was

mad and that saw it. Was like, I'm gonna let that step because it's not possible that so many people miss it, but it happens all the time when they see us. What does that title mean? It's it's a powerful title. I didn't want it to be called Central Park five because I feel like that's the name at the State and the press gave them, and that it allows you not to be able to see them as human. So when they see us, you know, opens it up, humanizes them more, but it also asks the question who's

the they and who's the us? Check it out May thirty first, you can see it on Netflix. We've seen it already. Amazing. I loved it. Watch it with your kids. Let your kids watch it. I don't ever do music for your own soundtracks. Do you go back to your rapping? Then? Okay, thank you, so happy so happy to be here. Almost got out all right. The Breakfast Club, good morning, Hey, good morning. Everybody is DJ MV and Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Good morning, good morning.

Let's get to these rumors. Let's talk to the number one show Netflix's tea. This is the rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. What would you say is the number one show on Netflix? I have no clue. The Office, Yes, so there were some issues people the show was gonna get taken off of Netflix and all of that, but they had to post hello, it's me with your regularly schedule reminder. The Office will be on

Netflix until twenty twenty one at least. By the way, I was on a flight the other day watching The Office, because you know, that's one of my favorite shows. It's hilarious. Really yeah, you will love it. And my best friends Santi Gold was on two episodes and never even told me. So I'm watching it on the plane and then I see her on these two episodes of the Office, and I texted her. I was like, you didn't tell me you were on the show. That's like a dream come true?

Are you show? Y'alls. For instance, she just was like, oh my god, I didn't know. It's so amazing. I did it before I even got pregnant with my twins. So yeah, we don't talk every day, but I'm like, how could you not bring that up? But The Office is the number one show on Netflix, So shout out to that show all right. Now, Lebron James he now has a brand new gym for his students. Well, he's gonna have have it for the I Primary School and

acron Ohio. He just got a one million dollar check from Dick Sporting Goods Foundation, so they're going to provide that recreational center for everyone at that school. So that's amazing. Now, Lebron James said, I believe this guy is a limit for these kids and the results we're seeing are just the beginning. Dick Sporting Goods Foundation believes in the opportunities and values sports provide, and I've experienced at every level.

So he said he's very excited to provide a space for the growth at the I Promise School, dropping a clos bunfle Lebron James having more faith in those kids than he does in the Los Angeles Lakers, as he should. Now Tiger Woods has a lawsuit. That's because one of the employees at his restaurant that he owns died in a car crash. Now, what they are saying is this man was drunk after he crashed his car and he died December tenth, And that's because he was leaving the

Woods restaurant and bar and he crashed his corvette. They're saying that Tiger Woods, who owns the restaurant, and his girlfriend is the manager at the restaurant, she's a general manager, they're the ones who are to blame for the wrongful death. So he worked there as a bartender. He sat there and drank from three pm until six pm, as the blood alcohol level was three times the legal limit, and

they said that he was suffering from alcohol alcoholism. He went to Alcoholics anonymous meetings and he had had another alcohol related crash in November, and that Tiger Woods and Erica Herman, who's the manager and Tiger Wood's girlfriend knew about his disease, but they were drinking with him before that crash happened a few nights ago. I never understood that.

I never understood you go to a bar and then you get into an accident when you leave the bar, and then you could see the ball for oversuwing you, like I don't know how much serving you for saying so you're overserving you. You know, I don't know how much liquor you had. You know, you could come in and get three. Some people can take five shots before

they drunk. Some people could take seven shots, like yeah, but I think you can when you look at somebody and you if they're slurring, they can't A bunch of people as drunk that that function from they do say as a bar attender, though, when you see somebody who is visibly drunk and slurring and they've had a certain

amount of drinks, you're supposed to stop serving them. I've seen like flight attendants on the plane stopped giving people drinks because they were absolutely and you're sorry, can't do it.

And if that person is sitting there for all of those hours, you can visibly tell if somebody's like super intoxic katy, right, And I understand that there's times you're not one hundred percent sure, like I don't know, but in this situation, they're saying that you knew he was an alcoholic, you knew he was going to these classes, but I don't know if that particular night. Tyger Wood wasn't tricky with him that night, so it probably wasn't a great idea for him to be a bartender if

he was an alcoholic. Oh yeah, all right. Byron Allen, his company has just purchased Remember that whole acquisition of the twenty one Fox regional sports networks that everybody was trying to get, ice Q, Bellow, cool J. They were all bidding on it, while Byron Allen's empire just got it. So they acquire that, yes, ten billion dollar acquisition. Man drop on a clues box from Byron Allen. Y'all don't even know how Byron Byron Allen a black man out

here getting it? Okay, Weather Channel last year, all right, so yeah, congratulations to him. I mean, everybody was trying to make it happen different groups, but Byron Allen is the person who actually won. I do want to say the Weather Channel has been wrong a lot since Byron Allen acquired it, though, I just want to throw that out there. They should hire Envy. No, now I'm joking. The Weather Channel is still the same Weather Channel has been,

but Byron Allen. If you don't know who that is, kids, google Byron Allan. Okay, all right, I'm angela ye and that is your rumor report. All right, thank you, yee, Charlemagne. Donkey, who are giving that to Listen? Donkey of the day to day is a prime example of why you should go where you're celebrated, not where you're tolerated. We need Phoenix Hunts for Josh Jackson to come to the front of the conversation. We'd like to have a world with Okay,

all right, we'll get to that next. Keeping lockedice to breakfast club. Good morning, it's time for Donkey of the day, being Dunky of the day, a little bit of a mix like a dope the other day. Now, I've been called a lot of my twenty three years, but wife, yeah, it's dunk here today for Tuesday, May for a teenth goes to Phoenix Suns forward Josh Jackson. Now Josh is twenty two years old. He got drafted in twenty seventeen

first round pick. Uh he was number four. Actually a solid player so far in the league, I would say so rookie year, he averaged a little over thirteen points a game. This year he averaged around eleven points a game, so decent first couple of years. I think his career average is like twelve points a game something like that. He's still got a lot of work to do, though, a lot of work to do to be a household name, and he was reminded of that this past weekend at

the Rolling Loud Festival in Miami. Now, I think, God, I've never been one of these negroes who have a desire, our problem getting in vi IP. Okay, let me tell you something to to this day, to this die. If I'm somewhere and there's a VIP section, if they don't let me in, I'm not tripping. I'm not about to beg anyone. I'm not about to ask to talk to anyone. To manager, I'm damn sure not hitting you with it. Do you know who I am? Because number one, security

got a job to do, all right. Number two they may know who you you are and not care because they have a job to do. And number three, who the hell are you? Okay, No, I don't know who you are. And it's my job to keep people out of here, because duh, I have a job to do and you don't have the credentials to be in here. Well, Josh Jackson of the Phoenix Suns is one of those people, one of those annoying ass people who can't take no fa nancier. When it comes to not being allowed in

the VIP, the male ego is so fragile. The rejection of not being allowed in the VIP is too much for Josh Jackson the handle, especially because he's an NBA player. And this happened. Let's go to Andy Slay the show for the report. Police. Josh Jackson plays with the Phoenix Suns. He was at Rolling Loud in Miami Gardens, which was at hard Rock Stadium, and according to my sources, Josh Jackson was arrested because he tried to get into the

VIP area several times without having proper VIP access. Officers were being kind of polite to him. After like three or four were times he tried him and then they finally took him out. They put him in handcuffs, put him on a golf cart, and this NBA player gets off the golf cart in handcuffs and starts running away. So police catch up to him and then they charge him with a felony for escape and then also resisting a rise. Now I want to ask Angelie a question.

If you couldn't get into the VP, would you beg to get int the VP? Absolutely not, I'll walk away, Envy. If you couldn't get into VP, would you beg to get into VFP? That doesn't happen to me, Bro, Angelie, I think Envy would definitely be put in this situation. They would definitely run through. And if he doesn't do that, he might argue with security and time him. You don't know who I am. That doesn't happen to me, Bro, This absolutely sounds like something that would happen in me.

But I was keep in mind, Josh Jackson is six eight, all right? Running when handcuffs on that rolling loud? Josh Jackson, where are you going? All right? You think nobody is going to notice in six eight man running in handcuffs that rolling loud? And Josh, you would never you would never have been in this situation if you went where you are celebrating, not where you're tolerating. Not only that, instead of fighting and getting the VIP, take your ass

to general population and do what we all do. Okay, daydream about one day being in position to get you and your friends into VIP if you want to, Well he should have did, was Texas agent and be like, look, I'm out here, I need you to get me into the VIP. Make it happen. And then you wait until they text you back and be like, okay, I have such a text coming to get you where you are. I highly doubt his basketball agent knows anything about some damn rolling loud. He'll figure it out, trust me. The

money they get paid. Now here's another secret. Once you get into v IP, you'll realize you don't even want to be in there, all right, Nothing in there but a bunch of people acting fake important. Who got time for that? All right? You should feel like v IP wherever you go, and you don't need the validation of

a VIP credential to be considered a very important person. Now, if Josh hits that court and does what he's supposed to do and becomes an all star, right, starts getting endorsement deals, gets into some commercials, gets the Suns in the playoffs so people can see him, he won't ever have to beg to get into a VIP ever. Again, the moral of the story is work, so you never have to introduce yourself. Please give Josh Jackson to the

Phoenix Suns the biggest he hall. Although I will say at an event like that, maybe it was annoying for him because he is very tall, people might recognize him. So people might have just kept coming up to him and are just trying to not be out there. I don't know. I'm just guessing because he's so tall, people already look at you, Josh Jackson. But I Holly Dott, anybody knows who Josh Jackson. That's disrespectful, Holly dot not not. No, you know some basketball fans might give me some time.

And he's only been in the league two years. Give him some time. All right, Wow, thank you for that. Donkey today. Now that's talk low Kisha no Quisha. All right, that's a new movie that's coming out that people are said about. Let's play at black Player's brilliant. I know, the biggest thing in radio, but I still need mine and you reserve quisa. What's your problem? Hi? It's oh, I ain't talking to you, not the way you sound.

Nuts Dollar you go, girl, be good at her. If you're good at yourself, you can be good at others. Don't be too good because the police to come around is a pretty role motherfucker. If you're asking an America woman, I think I like being a black woman trapped in a white man's body. Now let's talk a little quistion.

Now give him then, okay. So the truth to this story is it's a white man who is pretending to be a black woman because there was an opening that's looking for a black woman radio host and he wasn't able to get it as a white man. So he disguises himself just his voice to be talking as a black woman, calls himself a low Quisha, and that's his idea to try to land this job. Of course, they have not seen that he's a white man, so he basically gets the job and goes on the air pretending

to be a black woman named Loquish. Amazing premise. All right, what's the problem. Let's hopen up the phone lines. How do you feel asked you yet? We didn't ask you yet? Eight hundred five one oh five one. How do you guys feel about it? A white man acting like a black woman to get a job seems out of te five eight five one o five one. We'll talk about it when we come back. It's kind of like a

like what they did in White Chicks. It was a black guy that pretended to be a white chick, and now there's a white man that's pretending to be a hold on, I need more details, though, who's behind this film? Like a white man is the person that wrote, directed, and started it. He's the white man. Well that's the problem because because it's not it's not the idea that

was bothering people, it's the presentation. He should have had a jeremyville is his name, Well, Jeremy should have had a black person, specifically a black woman be the executive producer. If this was a black woman's idea are presented as a black woman's idea, it wouldn't be an issue. Well, let's let's talk about it when we come back. Eight hundred five eight five one on five one, what are your thoughts? Call us now, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,

the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Now, if you just joined us, we're talking low Quisha. Now tell him about low Quistion. La Quisha is a movie about a white man who's pretending to be a black woman in order to get a job on radio where they're looking for a black woman radio host. All right, so when the cross the show becomes successful when he lands the job even though he's a white man. So

let's playing snippet at the trailer right fast. She's brilliant. I know, get her. We're gonna be the biggest thing in radio. Well, I still need mine, and you served with low Quisia. What's your problem? Hi? It's oh, I ain't talking to you, not the way you sound. Next callar you go, girl. You just be good at her. If you're good at yourself, you can be good at others. Don't be too good because the police to come around. Question is a real role for every African American play.

I think a black woman trapped in a white man's body. So we're asking eight hundred five eighty five one on five one, what are your thoughts? Let's start with you. Yeah, you're a black woman. Yeah. I thought it was very offensive that he tried it. First of all, it sounds like a stereotypical what a white person thinks a black woman sounds like. And then the name Locuisia is that it just feels very like stereo typing what a black woman is. And it's already hard enough for black woman

to get these positions in these jobs. So the fact that you make a movie about a white man getting this job because he can't get it because he's a white man, it's kind of like, you know, we have some type of affirmative action going on, like let us have a job that is very few and far between for us. But people would say, it's a movie. And you know, they did it in White Chicks with Marlin and Damon played h they were black men that played white chicks. I think that's the exact opposite of what

this is. What Charloman, what do you think? Well, I mean, here's the problem. The problem is there's not a black woman behind us, all right. That white guy what's his name? That Jaremy Saville suld have went to one of his black fem comedian friends and let her be, let her

be the face of this. You know, if he did that, I don't think it would be an issue because there's an unwritten rule that the oppressor can't make films like this about the oppressed, but the oppressed can do that to the oppressors, and that's just the way it is. But I think that, you know, people got to stop being offended by fictional world like it's a movie, it's entertainment. Like I grew up on people pretending to be other people all the time and living Color made fun of everybody.

Dave Chappelle made fun of everybody. You got white chicks. Remember Jihuana Man where he pretended to be a woman NBA player. We would have never gotten Shenaa all Wanda in this generation. You tell me, You tell me Wanda were positive depictions of black women kind of this is what a white man thinks the black woman sounds and you know, looks like and what her name should be. But there is a black comedian from the movie who is defending the movie, and here is what he has

to say. If anyone's offended, I'm very sorry. But I wasn't trying to make any The answer mockery, And in fact, I don't think the trailer does the movie an injustice. I don't think any of the black people I worked on so we were making a mockery. I think we're at least for myself, well versed in our plight and our history. And all of that. This is a comedy. It's a story about one guy who does the wrong thing for the right reasons and ultimately he pays the place.

I think you kind of have to withhold judgment until you see the movie. All right, Well, let's go to the phone lines eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one. We have Elvis on the line. Elvis, good morning, Hey, good morning. What's up. What do you think about? What are your thoughts on the movie? I think it's great. I think it's a great idea. I think if the best idea his white chicks. Do you remember white chicks were good? I'm not afraid this movie sounds like a

dope baddd y'all tripping? Well, he actually did. The writer and director did actual and the guy who starting they did actually tag Marlon Wayans and say, Lucretia meet white chicks, and Marlin said, please stop tagging me, and this BS well think so. But I mean, listen, white women could have been offended by white chicks. White women could have been like, we don't act like that, that's stereotypical. They could have done the same exact thing. Yeah, we're just

always impressed, and um, you know always marginalized. But yeah, that's the thing. It's an unten rule. It's an unwritten rule that that the oppressed can't I mean, the oppressor can't do that to the oppressed, but their press can do that to their presser. This is the way it is. Hello, who's this? Hi? Hey, Janie's what are your thoughts on

the quisha? I think it's offensive, Like number one, like just the name alone, Like that's the name he chose to um, you know, like like that's the first thing he thinks he thought of when he thought of a

black woman. And and then I think, you can't compare to white chicks because the white chicks, it was they were studying Pacific to Pacific white girls that they had to like, you know what I mean, to tempt to be he decided to become a black woman and a caricature old on y'all haven't even seen y'all have not even seen the movie yet, because guess what we do radio? And when we first start doing radio, what's the first who they who they tell you that we're talking to?

Tell me Angela and Envy, Come on, now, who who did the who did these can and stuff? Tell us were talking to from New York who got two kids? Okay, watches Loving hip hop all damn day. So we don't know if in this movie this guy was talking to a radio consultant who told him the same thing. Yeah, but yeah, nobody want to talk. So wait a second. I think from what we saw on the trailer, it looks like he didn't get this job when he applied as a white man, so he decided to disguise his

voice as a black woman. Makes up the name loquisa. But we haven't seen a movie as a trailer. We're basing it off of what we know. But in the movie, no, come on, man, that's a small see I see, I don't know. I see. I'm answer the question about who they tell us we're talking to on this radio, then let's be talking to eighteen to thirty four year old African American woman is from New York. I don't know if,

but they're definitely for me, the Newark of Brooklyn. That's when we was only watch Loving hip Hop all the time. That's what we was only in New York. You know, that was nine years ago we did that. I'm just saying now, So I'm just saying that that doesn't no longer apply to what we're talking about. I think there's a difference between a white man pretending to sound and talk like a black woman than knowing who your audience is.

Were you ever offended by wander when when Martin used to he really is a black man that actually created those characters. But it's still a stereotype of black women. From what I've seen and from what I know about this, I think it's just different to see a white man pretending to be a black woman than it is to see a black man doing what he did. And also, Martin's a comedian. We know this guy's not a comedian. All right, let's open up five one o five one. See.

I'm torn because I do feel it's disrespectful and it's like it makes fun of our coaching in front of our black queens. But also it is it's jokes, like we all have jokes like liver Color. With jokes he made fun of everybody, and liver color they made for the gay people, they made for the black people, they made for the white people. It was funny then, But is it too sensitive now where we can't laugh? I don't think. I think I think he should have had

a black woman. I think if it was this whole thing, but I think that this just sounds like such a mockery of what it is to be a black woman. That's true too. Does that make it better if it was a black woman? There, it's still making a mockery of a black woman. All eight, I'm a black woman radio host? Do I need to be named Luquisha and talk like that? Eight five eight five one five one. Call us now as the Breakfast Club, Good morning morning.

Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the God. We all the Breakfast Club. If you just joined us, we're talking Little Quisha. Now, what's a little Quisha about you? It's a movie about a white man who decides that he wants to get a job as a black woman radio host because that's what the ad was looking for, and so he decides to name himself Loquisha and adopt what he thinks sounds like a black woman and how

an opinionated black woman would sound. Well, let's cool to the well, hold on, hold on, Sean, we got Coco on the line. No, this is Devin. Oh, I'm sorry, what Devin? What are you saying? Devin. I say, I don't want to say waltele was mad because it sounds just like that movie Starting to Bother You. I didn't see that. No, not not really, because Sorry to Bother You was about the black guy adopting the white voice

to sell more of the telemarketer. I guess I lie what I did tell the mark You know, I had to definitely, I definitely had my white voice on. Hi, it is Sean from Pelco Fuel. How are you doing today, sir? Awesome? Yeah, it's really different because if you would say as a as a white person, right, if you wanted a job and tell the marketing as a white man, could you be like, hey, my name is the question, I'm trying to get this job, then what would happen in real life? Nat? Okay,

I don't know about that. That was kind of the opposite. Hello, who's this? My name is Chief Keith for something man, we're talking about lo Keisha? What do you think? What are your thought? And I don't have no problem with that, man. Uh, you know, they just really did what the black claimsman was like kind of like that same context, like well, Homeboy was trying to uh change up its voice to be a white person to catch somebody or whatever like

that same scenario. Right, I never saw black clansman. I don't see him. Black Claimers were good man, that was a good movie, but they had they had a recent movie like that same scenario. Showman was right too. White chicks, Yeah, a matter of stuff, Man, Weld. You have a problem if after seeing this movie, white man went around talking like they were loquisha. No, we threw the same thing

to them all time. But it's as I would. I wouldn't want a white person to come up to me and be like, hey, sister girl, I hate when people do they do that. Now, hey, it's offensive. Now you ever seen an empire? Listen. The problem is there's an unwitten rule that the oppression can't make films. You know about the oppressed, but der press can do that to

the oppress. That's just the way it is. Whether it's a man doing that to a woman, a strap person doing that to a gay person, a white person doing that to a black person like you, just it never looks good. You think a white man could know what it's like to be a black woman, No, and accurately portray that. But I'm sure that's the whole point of the movie. I'm sure by the end of this movie, his whole spot gets blown up. I'm sure by the

end of this movie, his whole spot gets blown up. Mike, Hey, Hey, what's up? Bro? What are you? What do you? What are your thoughts or Liquisha? All right? I got I got three points. First of all, when I saw this thing, I'm like this movie where this man five, I couldn't put that. Someone put this on two thy and nineteen. One of my biggest deployments was when you see the Black movie. I can't believe any of them read the script and showed up for this cat. I think see that,

you know they would endure something like this. I think that that was a huge pro problem. But honestly, the biggest plot hole is how many black women named Laquisha are getting hired without a face to face interview. Right, that doesn't happen. Ever, we haven't seen the movie. Well, that's what happens in the movie. He doesn't have a face to face interview. That's why he got hired because it I'm not about to sit here and try to

figure out a fictional movie. It's because that is that's part of the plot is that he gets hired without them seeing him. But no, it's a movie. I'm not gonna pick a part a movie like if we know it for entertainment purposes, we know it's fictional. Hello, who's this Mica Michael? What's up? Bro? What what are your thoughts? Man? Well, I want to see people keep that same energy when it comes to other movies. If they're gonna be disgusted

or something like Dinner. You can't watch like The Black plans Man or A White Sick or something like that, when when it's for one, it's a comedy. So al, I'm serious about it, and too it's I mean, it's a movie. You can't take something that that serious. Yeah, nobody defends black women. It don't have nothing to do with that. This is a movie like you get remember that old movie, Remember that old movie in ninety six with Whoope Goldberg called The Associate. We've seen Eddie Murphy

play white people like Listen. The problem with this whole thing is they should have had a black woman behind it. It should have been a black woman executive producer. It should have been a black woman. Black women were writing on it, like that's the biggest issue here to me is that this white guy is at the forefront of this. If they would have had a black woman attached to this, it wouldn't even be an issue. That's that's why ashpect the black women. You give a black woman some coin

and then make it make it seem okay. No, it's more than just having a black woman behind that says this disrespect It's a movie. If black women are finding a disrespectful and don't like it, then it's disrespectful. I'm not a black woman, so I can't sit here and tell you what. How listen. I mean some people are okay with it. Some people are n't what I go see this movie? Now? We shouldn't We shouldn't add no more reruns of than Him in Color. We shouldn't hed

no more reruns a Chappelle show. We shouldn't add no more white chicks, no more do you want a man? We shouldn't no more Martin because he did. She ain't like what are we talking about him? I just think it's a lot harder. It's not as easy as saying. For us as a black woman, it's not very often I'm like, hey, we're looking to hire a black woman

who is sassy opinionated to take this job. And then a white man who has a name like who makes up a name like Locuisia and then starts talking in what he considers to be a black woman sassy rhetoric comes against a job. It's weird to me, that's all. But to me it's weird. All right, guys, what's the world was? To me? I wasn't cracking up when I've seen it. So the moral of the story is, y'all promoted the hell out of this white man's movie. My god, he's gonna kill at the box office on Netflix or

whatever the hell this is coming out. I doubt it. There you crazy? This movie about the pop. It's about the pop right now? Again, that's all right, Well, we got rumors on the way. Yes, let's talk about Hey, you mentioned Whoopie go Burg. Well, she has a new venture that she's working on, and gonna tell you what it is. It's about inclusivity. All right. We'll get into that next. Keeping locked this to break this club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Listen, just oh gosh, got guys, it's

the report the Breakfast Club. Well, if you guys, remember Wendy Williams and Howard Stern used to have a great relationship, but then they had a falling out all because Wendy Williams is talking about Howard Stern's book coming out and said this on her show, Howard is so Hollywood right now that everything that you say is so predictable. Every story is going to be about you know, Oh, I

love this one. And then we went on their yacht and he's a Hollywood insider now, which sucks because you started, like me, being of the people, but at some point you sat behind that microphone for too long and now you are the people. Yeah, that's whack. If we're supposed to be friends and we're supposed to be cool and you feel that way, come to me first, don't just say it on your show, and then don't expect me

to clap back, because I'm gonna clap back. Well, Howard Stern was triggered, and here's what he had to say on his show because it was brought to his attention, and then he talked about it for like forty minutes. What ug you? You got those big fakes and I'm Hollywood, huh, shut the fuck up. Worry about your husband, not me. Shake a her or bullshit show. I'll bet twenty buckshee piece standing up. I hope hers get stuck in his I screw Paul before I watch True Paul's drag race.

Do you make sure Paul look like Margot Robbie down see that the road with that? You tell you clap at me, I'm gonna clap backing. He just went a little fall, but he did it very he said forty minutes. He did it like three hours. Well, Howard Sarin has apologized. You know, he's um said that he does apologize and is expressing love for her and all of that at the Hollywood on the Hollywood Reporter, many apologized, I'm Hollywood Reporter. I apologize in this article there and Wendy Williams has

responded to that apology on her show. And I saw that you mentioned me and that you apologize. Howard, You know what, if you never apologize to me ever in your life, you would still be one of the most influential people shaping my rear. And the idea that you apologize and you went on the air. He went on the air and ripped me a new one for no

damn reason, because I knew I was right. And then in this article in Hollywood Reporter, he goes on to say, you know that he loves me and that he's kind of embarrassed by ripping me on the air, so he's pulled that from the archives. You will never hear that on repeat. Well, it's the Internet live on forever. Yeah, but they had it. But the whole thing is is no, she still doesn't think she was wrong. And that's the thing.

If we're friends, if we're cool, if we're compadres, and you will respect me so much and as a problem, you should check me off fav of like, yo, I think your book is just that and the ovel you know not. But she hadn't read the book. She was just talking about him personally that she feels that he's Hollywood now and she didn't him. She didn't even read the book to say what, oh, you're gonna be on

your yacht with chair of celebrity friends. No, you didn't even read the book to see I don't like that. We know all right. Now, let's talk about Kodak Black. We talked about how we got arrested at the Rolling Loud Music Festival. According to the Fezi said he falsified gun applications on two different occasions in order to buy firearms. So that's why he was arrested, and that he did acquire weapons in at least one of those transactions, and so that could land him in jail because he's also

in the middle of a criminal case as well. Wait a minute, Kodak Black forced falsified, falsified documents to buy a gun. Yeah, and he doesn't know that they got to use fingerprints. I listen, I can't tell you exactly how it all went down, but in one of those cases, he did manage to get a gun. Now you drop one in one of those cases. His lawyer, however, and I thought this was weird too because you saw how they had that picture of him when he was in

custody arrested. How did that picture get out? So as lawyer has an issue with the Florida Police Department for sharing that arrest photo of him where he's sitting in the police station, and that got sent out to all the different news stations and everything. So why would you

do that. Clearly they're trying to embarrass him because I didn't know you could just put out pictures like that, all right, DJ Khalid is putting out an album Experienced documentary his father of aside the album Experienced documentary, So he's teaming up with Title and he's going to do a lot of content for this album release. So that documentary will come out this Friday on Title as well. So the trailer is available now. Also, you don't have to have a subscription to watch that either. So jay

Z's on the trailer. Mkmil says it and a lot more shout to Kalig. So a lot of people don't give Kalid the necessary respect he deserves. He took the DJ game and upped it up one and he continues to work hard, and Kali gets busy. I know a lot of people are like, oh, Kell, it's not really a DJ. No, Kalig gets busy as well, So salute to Kalid. He's more than a DJ. Is alright. And Diddy is saying goodbye to social media for now. He posted back off the Grid and then he put a

black heart in the caption. I know he's going through a lot right now and social media may not be the best place. I see people coming from him about how he treated Kim Porter and gotta like leave it alone. It's not necessary his kids to seeing this. He's seeing it. He's clearly hurt. So he's decided just to take a break from that, and I think that's good for your own energy. Right all right, I'm Angela Yee and that's your room of reports. All right, thank you, miss ye Revolt.

We'll see you guys tomorrow. Everybody else to People's Choice Mixes up. Next. We got a lot of request for the City Girls joints, so we'll start off places with that acting up. Okay, it's the Breakfast Club corning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now. Thank you to Ava Duvenaid for joining us this morning. Man, it's Luther Queen avl You know, I got nothing but love and respect for

Ava Duvenai. I would love to hear what Abel would have to say about Laquisia as other other you know, the black creative that she is, director boss that she is. I wonder what she would say about the trailer to the movie Luquisha. I'm sure she'll tweet about it or

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