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breakfast Club for my name, Come on, respect you. Good morning yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo Good morning, angela Ye, good mon, Charlomagne, the gout piece of the planet. Happy Friday. Now, this is one of those times when we're pretending like we're here but we're really not. But we got new content for you, like we got Alicia Keys coming up next hour, Judge Faith Jenkins later on in the show.

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tonight at ten pm on Comedy Central. Vice President Kamala Harris will be joining me on The Gods on His Truth. And we're gonna be having a healthy discussion, not me and Kamala, but me and Chico being in the Man de sales, We'll be having a healthy discussion about who really runs Christmas if he Jesus a Santa Hu find out the night ten pm The Gods on His Truth on Comedy Central. All right, we got more coming up next with a Breakfast Club. Did your time to get

it off your chests? Whether you're man or blast, so you better have the same instry we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club? Hello, who's this shams? Now? They get it off your chests? No, I just wanted to say I love listen to y'all. Y'all help me every morning. And what up though? From Detroit and Angela when you need a new guest for a little service. I'm trying to get on the show where you got you? And Detroit? Still, Yes, I live here. What's your what's

your qualifications? Tell me what you do so that I can know what you want to talk about. What's a radio and broadcast and so I do have experience with that. I'll recently have my own podcast, but I'm trying to rebrand everything and starry fresh with my own show. All right, this thank you Friday. Give me a topic. Let's say it's freaky Friday. What uh dark fantasy? All right? What is it doing something in the car and it's so very real dark in the park or nobody can see you.

Sounds like a hired movie waiting to happen. Yeah, thank you for calling with your freaking all right? DMN, Hello, who's that? Hey? This is Chevine. Good morning to everyone. Good morning. Okay, So in our community, the black community, we should normalize raising our kids without abusing it. It's just something that shouldn't be done, like why are we beating our kids? And like and then people are quick to go to the Bible and say, oh, you know,

you know they like the rone the towel. But don't we all remember in school that the ride means the ride of corrections and not like necessarily disciplining with pain, you know you but you know you know that's something we learn from our oppressing you know, you know, that's that's what I'm saying, Like we need to stomp it, like there are some people like that, you know, I whipped her bud or I did this. What about getting

down and speaking with your child? That's right. My oldest daughter is um thirteen, and you know, I think her when she was like young, like you know, two years old, and I felt so stupid and I always say to myself like how could my parents you know beat me with the stinching cards and everything else? And be okay, how did that not bother? And that's and that's what I'm saying. And you're you're so right. It is coming from our oppressors, but I think we needed to be

more conscious of where it's coming from. Like bread the word talk to each other because this is so sixty so sick. Yeah, that's awful, Thank you mama. Oh of course you guys have a great one, you too. Now, Hello, who's this what I'm getting off your chance, brother, man one than guard. I'm leaving today, going to work. Man. Tell Joe body talking man. I feel you all right, Brod, y'all have y'all have a good day of min Yes that last one too, brother. Hello, who's this? What's up? Man? Virginia?

What's up? Seventy five seven? Get it off you chest? I just want to get it all my chest. I'm feeling blessed to drop the album this one. I'm called block man, black man. Okay from my little brother. He said, what a part of Virginia you're from? From Chesapeake? Okay? All right, so you wrapped? Yeah, all right, spend some real quick this morning. I say, I'm motivated on the greatest thing underrated, pockets overweighted. No you hated, won't believe a lit I told you, lady, just to hold my babies.

You see the wings this year, ain't no Mercedes walcome to the room. He going crazy because I ain't got no shirt on. They will have been on my six packs. Some two needs to work on chilling me as might as will try to hurt home pack like the nurse home. I got the wave you can hurt phone and a whole lot of dough. That's a biscuit number. How old are you? Brother? How old are you? Sir? Every one? Okay, do you really have a six pack? Yeahs so what you want to see a picture? Now? I'm just asking.

I gonna make sure you'll just following my id b l okay at and I got some happen. Was it called YouTube videos for k thing? Bro? Bro? All right? Brother? Hello? Who's this? Dorian? Hey, Dorian, get it off your chest, sir. I just wanted to send all the positive message to everybody and also ask about therapy. Yes, sir, Hey, I

just wanted to tell everybody out there struggling. If you're going through anything, it's all a part of your story, don't give up, keep on pushing, and just keep on believing in yourself, trusting yourself in visualize the best version of yourself. You gotta trust your life, you gotta trust God, and you gotta trust your life. That's it. That's it. Now,

what's your question of therapy? It's time for me to start working on myself because it's a lot of stuff that I've been holding, man, and it's time for me to really start to grow more. Hey, best decision I ever made. In my life back back in twenty sixteen. Man started going in twenty sixteen once a week every Friday. Whatever makes you feel comfortable, you can go in person. You know, it's a lot of tele therapy that you can do nowadays. You just gotta do some research and

find the best therapist for you. What do you what do you think you need to go for? I went, I went for my anxiety and about the depression and ended up peeling back all kind of layers of trauma. But what you think you need to go for? I just need to go forward, like just for my health, well for my mental health, because I'm real bad with my emotions. They'll affects everyone else around me. We just put the golf and say, okay, it'll be all right.

Well I will tell you man, just just just find somebody that's you know, in your area that you think is best suited to fit your needs. That's what I would tell you. And you can. You can go to my website, go to go to the Mental Wealthalliance dot org. And you know we have a list of providers. You probably can find somebody in your area. Okayiate Mental Mental Wealthfarelliance dot org. All Right, brother, thank you man, Get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one

oh five one. If you need to vent hit us up now it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. I'm I'm telling what's all? This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blast. Eight hundred five eighty five one five one. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello. Who's this Yes to morning. I just want to bring it to the attention of these gas station attendance. Why why wouldn't you tell them to put one amount in your car?

They put another amount on the gas pensers tending the foot tween eyes in my car? People? Forty what's the months ago for the gas stakes attendance? Put tween eyes in my car? He seals it up and put all those And you know what they want to make me mad because it's the language. It's the lad that's what you got to say. Look, all I got is twenty dollars. This is all I have. This is what I asked you for. They go get your car. Oh your carn so didn't already have your car? Right? Something that has

could be done. And I don't know if this news. A lot of them, Um, don't speak the language. You're doing other things when that happened. You're not tying to attended because you expect them to do what they would you ask do correct. Well, I think since this has been happening to you a lot, just make sure that you actually pay attention now when you get gas. You don't never want to act like Trump to people who don't speak the language. Yeah, if it happened a bunch

of times, you gotta you know, you gotta start watching. Yeah, but if you don't speak the language, that's never happened to me. He was alway stopped. Bro, they get stopped. Stop. Everybody knows stop clearly not hello. Who's this hello? All right? Oh my god, I can't believe I got through. Good morning, breakfast up, queen you all everything that you do. Um, oh my god. I just want to start out all the US Army veterans out there. I am a US

Army veteran um part of mental health. I got out of the Army and after two years of fair and doubt, I launched my boutique, Fashion's House Um the house it sells ah a usum in German. Because that was my first duty station and I launched it on Veterans Day last year. It has something easy, but I'm finding joy through the process. And you know, basically, my sister and I we just made the choice to live consciously and to face our goals and live intentionally right. And so

she also has a podcast. It's called Incommenstible. Podcast is pushing to the idea that we all are unique and we have to think for ourselves always, and I just want to share it with you. I'm so nervous, guys, you have no reason to be it. I love your mission statement. And by the way, that's not an idea that we all are unique. We definitely all are unique. Are none of our DNAs are the same? Absolutely? Absolutely? I want to share with you. Oh your phone, hold

on a second, mama, Hello, who's this? More than this? Jerome? Jerome was up? Good morning, man, get off your chest, good morning. I don't know, I'll just remember a couple of months back, says, you don't don't know us with no cats, man, We know what cats? Cat? Cat? Oh animal cat cat. But yeah, I just wanted to let y'all know I have blessed cats and the dog and the name Tina and Turner. You can follow them on Instagram right now. I love cats. I'd rather have a

cat than have a dog. They are a lot more little maintenance. Nah dog protects the crib. Yeah, and cats make sure you don't have bugs or rodents. Had called a couple of weeks ago, and I was talking about the little girl in a period or whatever, and I wanted to apologize to d J. Henry because I told him I wasn't because he didn't understand what I was saying. But that was it, and y'all happy holidays, everything, all right. Yeah, we grew up with cats in our house that we

had three cats and a dog. No, we never had no cats. We always had dogs. My wife had a cat growing up. There's nothing wrong with people who like cats. Just said, I don't know anybody. If I said I don't know, I just don't know any men with cats. That's all I said. I don't know know man with cats, being a man who has here, you can leave a cat in the house for like three days and they'll be okay. Mike Tyson had a white tiger. That's the closest person I know that I don't know. Let's shout out.

Tell other guys with cats. How you get it? A few chests eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If you need to vent hit this uping now it's the breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. I want to show the Breakfast Club Charlomagne and God Angela Ye dj Envy had to step out. But man, we have the author of one of the best books I read this year, Resumm men of Kim, author of My Grandmother's Hands, Racialized Trauma in The Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies.

First of all, it is a pleasure to sit down and talk to you. How are you. I'm doing well, man, I'm doing well. Busy but well. Absolutely absolutely. Now tell folks what this book is about. So brother, the book is really about racialized trauma and how more often than not, when we think about racism and white body supremacy, we think about it from an intellectual place like you know, uh,

you know, dates and times and stuff like that. But my whole work is really around how trauma lives in the body and gets passed down, and how it gets passed down through generations. What is of happening is that we don't just learn from our caregivers in terms of instruction, we also learn from what their bodies recoil from and lean into. Trauma in a person over time can look like personality. Trauma in a family over time can look like family traits. But trauma and a people can look

like culture. And we and we missed those pieces. And so the whole book was about my journey, my own personal journey, you know in Afghanistan. Want to raise the Milwaukee, Wisconsin and my journey in terms of my people and my grandmother. Can you talk about what white body supremacy is? Yes, So when we say the word white supremacy, a lot of times what happens is that people move to the head. They start trying to say, well, I'm not racist, or I'm not this or I'm not that person. Did that

I'm not the person? Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And so what ends up happening is is that we end up having an intellectual conversation and not how this stuff actually impacts the body. And so white body supremacy is my attempt to get us to begin to think about what shows up when we're having these types of interactions, What shows up when we see a black body being murdered on the streets, right, And that actually may not just be

your own personal piece. It might be historical, it might be intergenerational, it might be persistent institutional, and then your own personal stuff gets combined with it. You know. It's God bought this book in my life at the right time, you know, Angela RAI kept telling me to get it. But it came in my life at a point where I started doing healing exercises. I started actually doing things that helped this this trauma move to my body. Explain

why that's not necessary? So I so if you notice in the book, brother, I don't call him exercise, I call him practice it why it's because whenever we think about trauma, and specifically racialized trauma, we think about something we need to just purge. Right. But in an actuality, race, the concept of race has a four hundred to five hundred year old charge to it. So when we start to begin to deal with it, that charge can overwhelm us.

And with your experience, and I've listened to you quite a bit, and so some of the experience when you have when you yourself have been traumatized, right, in addition to the historical trauma, that gets passed down in addition to the intergenerational trauma, you don't really know how to articulate,

so the practices are designed to go slow. One of the things about the practices that if forces you to work with to learn discernment, Oh this is more resource, or this really scares me, or this is more constricted in my body when we're traumatized. That's all blended together. We don't know how to discern one one sensation from an image. You have to condition and temper your body to be able to withstand the trauma and the stuff that has happened, so you can metabolize it over time

and not just be overwhelmed when it shows up. And then practices for white people as well, Oh hell yeah, what happens with white folks? Right? We live in a structure by which the white body deems and has deemed itself the supreme standard of humanness philosophically and structurally. It's the catstem that's it. So what ends up happening is that in that process, the acceptance of whiteness right made white people have to give up part of their humanity

in order to be white. They had to You can't participate in brutalizing people right without disrupting part of your own humanity. And so the practices in the book are really designed to help white people begin to confront that thing that had the ways that they've been standardized as human and me and you've been standardized as deviant from human. They're normal, they're the normal, and we're deviant, right, and so it is standardized so they don't even feel like

they need to even do nothing about it. That's why I have the practices in there for for white bodies. Okay, we got more with the great resume of Minician when we come back discussing his book My Grandmother's Hands, Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies on the Breakfast Club. Hey, I want to make sure to tell y'all to tune into the Gods on Its Truth tonight at ten pm on Comedy Central. That's my late night talk show. And tonight we have Vice President

Kamala Harris on the show. So tune in ten pm tonight on Comedy Central, my late night talk show to Gods on Its Truth. The Vice President Kamala Harris will be joining us tonight, and you know I got questions, All right, we got more. Don't move. It's the best of the Breakfast Club, the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world most dangerous. Want to show the Breakfast Club. Charlomagne and God Angela Ye dj Envy is off today and

we're talking to Resma men Kim. He's the author of My Grandmother's Hands, Racialized Trauma in the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies. Now, can we talk about the title of the book, to my Grandmother's Hands and what that does represent as far as the work that you've been doing so soon. My grandmother was a small woman, but when we were young, like seven eight years old, we would go over there and stay with my grandmother. And my grandmother number one, she would be in the

kitchen and she would hum. And when you notice in the book I talk about the hum and the legal nerves, it's a very important piece. One time I was rubbing the hands and I was comparing her hands to my hands, like my hands are very thin and angular. Grandmother had these thick digits, like thick, and then a thickness inside of her palm, and the thickness on the back of her palm, and so I was. I was rubbing, and I said, Grandma, why are your hands so fat? Why

are your hands fat like that? And without missing the beach, she goes, oh, boy, that's from picking cot. I'm seven to eight right, and I'm like okay, And she must have heard the space divide. So she turned and this and their cadence picked up right. I knew I didn't know what it was, but I knew I needed to page. She goes, well, you ever seen the cotton plant? No? Man, She goes, complante got these birds. This is where she's talking.

And I said okay, and she said, when you reach your hands in there, And at four years old, I started walking up and down on Rose where I was four. My daddy was a sharecropper, So when you reach your hands in that stuff, your hands bleed. And I did not remember that story again until I started reading the book. I started writing the book, that's amazing because then the calysis protect her hands bleeding, and then it just gets used to that's exactly right. And then I took that

and said, whoa, that's how trauma works. You know. I wanted to ask you about Sunday because me and my home girl dad was talking about this yesterday. It was a Instagram post somebody posted and they say, not everything is a trauma response. And they say, the point here is we can't just slap a label of trauma on the everything. We can't understand all behavior as trauma responses. We have to think more about the roles culture plays

and creating and sustaining trauma responses. And trauma responses aren't necessarily all bad. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, So trauma is personal and particular me and you maybe homeboys, and something happens in front of us, right, A necessary component of trauma is stuck. Right, no matter what I do, is stuck.

Something that stuck. That's a necessary component. Something back and happened to both of us at the same time, and you get stuck and I don't, Right, So when it comes to trauma, right, But but but there's a higher propensity to get stuck, right when the thing that happens happens to a man of people. Right, And I believe that you will more likely get stuck in trauma when children are involved. Right. What I would say is some people get stuck with that and some people don't. It

does it? But it but but but I also don't want to take the culture off the hook, right and say, well, not everybody is traumatized, so it's not really a big deal. It is a huge deal because the trauma that we're talking about has compounded over time and has been decontextualized. So now we take it out on each other. Right, And so I have to say, well, you have to you have to do both. You have to keep the vertical and the horizontal when you're viewing this stuff around race.

You have to keep both of them on the table. You know, you say that a healing racism begins with the body. Do you think that takes precedent over legislation. No, No, Here's what I Here's what I believe. I believe that legislation is fine, and it is inadequate. It is unsustainable.

It can't just be policy changed. It can't be policy changes. Look, look we had to we had the Voting Rights Act, right, Look a look at what we're doing right just yesterday, trying to implement the voting Right from sixty You see

what I mean. What I believe is that as we created at what I call a living embodied anti racist culture, as we begin to do that, the emergence will will will open up so much room and so much feel and so much power that our politicians will either have to comply or get the hell out of the way. But because we haven't done that, because we because we haven't worked our own pieces, they can keep skirting around what they should be doing for us as a people.

One of the things I appreciate about what y'all do here is that y'all pub people and do things for people without expecting something back. And what that does is creates a cultural glue, right, And so those pieces matter. The more you do that, right, the more you develop these structures of trust not transaction. And at the same time, when stuff happens between us, right, I can hold it with you and help you move communally through that trauma if it's a trauma response, help you move through it

and not just cast you all. That's the pieces. So, yes, legislation is fine. Anybody that's on a journey, journey of healing. You gotta get my grandmother's hands. You have to racialize trauma in the pathway to mending our hearts and bodies. It's available everywhere you get books now, Resima, thank you, my brother. It was an absolute pleasure man than it's the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club, your mornings will never

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Nightmare Alley only in theaters today. It's topic time called eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one to join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club, talk about it. Warning, everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. And now ifew just joined us, we're asking have you ever fell in love with a stripper? A gentleman out in age town lent the strip of two thousand dollars, a laptop and some Harry Potter DVD's and he suited her because he

said they broke up. So we're asking, have you ever fell in love with us stripper? Now? I frequently DJ strip clubs all the time, and I remember one particular time our camera guy up here. He was feeling sad, so I took him out for his birthday, which one nick now No, Steve, oh, Steve, okay. Set. I was out of the club at about three o'clock. I said, Yo, Steve, ready to go. He was like, nah, I'll think for a little bit. It's like, Steve, you know nobody here.

He was like no, but you know the stripper is feeling me. I said, no, she's not feeling she's not feeling you, sir. She's feeling the money that you're throwing it. He's like, no, no, no, I think we have a connection. I said, well, hit me when you get home so I know you made it home safe. Steve waited there until about four twenty until she got out of work. That's how much in love he was with that stripper. What happened after that, I don't know, but he was

definitely in love. It's a scripper's job to give you attention guys, it's a completely transactional relationship. Yes, you're throwing your ones, she's dancing. That's what the Script club is for. It's like literally going into a barbershop, paying the barber to cut your hand and saying, yo, I think I think he's feeling me. Yo, he's playing on my neck. No, he's cutting your hair. Okay, it's the same thing with

a scripper. But but I will say this, and for the strippers out there, when the stripper is dope dance and they have conversations with their h Mark, I'll call them, that's when it gets a little they're having conversations to see if you got some goddamn money, to see if they should be wasting their time with Your conversation makes the mark feel special because he's like, Wow, you dance for everybody, but you're sitting down talking to me. I think like, that's why Scripple was a great hole. Drop

on the clues, bonds fall of scripts out there. That's why they're amazing at what they do because they make you feel special. They make you feel wanted, and that's how you have to make somebody feel if you want them to throw the money, salute to all the scripples. Man, Yeah, you ever fell in love with stribble? I no, I absolutely haven't. I have a lot of franzy with strippers, of former strippers. I mean I never fell in love

with a scribble. I mean you know I've been I've been fond of one in my day, okay, but never fell in love. The first time you got was that a strip club? Yeah? That was I was a kid though, Like that wasn't even I wasn't even old enough to be in the script club. I'll tell you this too. We need to be asking this question about the bottle girls, the bartenders. The bottom the generation might have definitely fell in love with a couple of bartenders, a couple of

bottle girls before the scripples. Well, hello, who's this? Yes, hello, this is showing showing. It sounds like you fell in love with the ship or a bottle girl. Oh, don't do anything like that. Yeah, I'm falling in love with the Hooters girl. Back in the day, me and my friends we used to go up there up in se Kid and she was a beaune before brown skin for a minute and I would tip for a lot and I ended up she ended up for natural being to

pay for a car payment, damn. And then I remember I would come into Hooters and at one point in time she wouldn't giving me the energy or the love that I thought I deserved. But yeah, yo, goddamn fragile ego, she didn't give me the love I deserve. What the hell you mean? Well, you know I was tipping her nicely, man, nicely? Ego, bro, you leading with ego? Bro boy? Poor you? That's all ego? Hello, who's this? Hey can here? We can hear you? What's up about? You? Would love? You fell in love with

a stripper? And it was sir lemain and yeah, man, like, how y'all doing? Man? I want you to know I definitely appreciate, appreciate what y'all do. What you got going on? Man? What's up? Brother? Then I fell in love with a stripper man back in my high school day. And can't hear them? Yeah, sir, tell us all about it? Yeah? Yeah, her name was Essence. Man. I'm still I'm still in love with her. How long has it been, sir, yestre together?

It's been about a good five six years. Man. The girl she has a fat, foody man body shape to tattoos. She I mean she looked good. She looked Hello, good man. I just I ain't been to the strip plus since every time I go. Honestly, I fell in love with strippers every time I go. So I just got to stay away from him for real. Hello, who's this nick? You fell in love with the strip of bro? Yeah, but I think I'm a lott one war maryl what's her name? As a baby? This a Marril flaws. Y'all

start playing with me. Lord. Have you tried to highlight her outside of office hour? With her when she's not working? Yeah, I mean, we're not got to Instagram or whatever. I'm talking to her. You know, we talked a little bit, but it's a hard to get her out of the club. Man. A lot of money in the club on her. Oh I fent a decent amount, but I think would have connected. Came out on the podcast. She came on your podcast. Yeah, yeah, you know the podcast. She came on two different episodes,

but she called Stripersole. So we had her and a couple other people. But you know, just getting the sender interviewer and talk to her, I'm like, I don't think I want a girl. So won't you tell her? Won't you be like y'all gonna be honest with you. I really like you. You know what I'm saying. Maybe you can, maybe you can offset her her her lifestyle. You got enough money to offset her lifestyle. I make a decent amount. But I think you know, see, she get a lot

of money already. For the money ain't gonna get her. You know. So life, show a love, show a real love, like like like court her. You know what I'm saying, like like treat her the way you would want like somebody to treat your daughter. You would want your father to treat your mom like you. Show some real love. Good luck? Man? Why not? Why not? Hello? Who's dance? What this? Prince German? Chris? What up? Man? You fell in love with the strip of bro Oh yeah, gonna

Miss Melfid's man? Oh my gosh, she blew my mind. She gave you a lap dance and blew your mind and your love. What's your name? Miss Melford's man? So I got the lap dance, and I got a number and all that, and I hooked the bull again, and that the second time my hostel put up. When I went to the Gas season, I got all kind of pills and still man, I couldn't even finish I was. I got my money for it. I take you that damn you got. All right, man, man, have mercy on

my poor soul. What's that? Man? The story? I mean, there is no more to the story, y'all. Brother, just gotta stop letting y'all ego lead man, because some of y'all ego be making y'all believed things that don't exist, like y'all relationships with these scripples. All right, all, oh, scripple old you is a dance. That's it. And that's only because the relationship is transactional. You paid for the service,

she provided that service. That's that. Y'all get to know each other outside of that, and you know, something happens great other than that. Goddamn tippic keeping moving, No, allright, we got more, don't move. It's the best of the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club, The Breakfast Club. Your morning's will never be the same morning. Everybody's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne, the god we all the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, the first time

on the show. And yeah, she's never been up there, you'd be busy. Seriously, Yes, Alicia, Keys's happening. Everything is everything, just trying to feel like I've never been in this room with y'all think, so, yeah, here we go. It's pretty disgusting in here if you look around? Is it you prefer not to be in on? It's beautiful? This is your space writes the essence to it, you know what I mean? The first time doing a double album, it is my first time. You got a lot of music.

It's a lot so much you just have so much music, or during the pandemic, you like, I just feel like working. It's originals and unlocked, so yeah, it's definitely you know, really it's a lot of the songs are the same because the one side is original, so that's like more stripped down piano vibe. The other side Mike Will and I sampled the original, so it's really two perspectives of the same song. So if you really break it down, it's probably like fourteen joints times. Oh that's why I

said unlock some of the tracks. Usually you don't work with just one producer like you did with Mike Will on the Unlocked version. How is that process now it was great. I mean, you know, you know, to just kind of bring it back down to the basics. I think at the beginning, I always it was just mostly me and at the time I had my partner crucial that we always worked together. But after that I started

to explore more different collaborations. So coming back to the basics of just like being just me on the originals and then just me and Mike unlocked it it's just it's it's it's fluid, just feels kind of easy and it flows, especially for now. Obviously we're not all getting with a thousand people right now. It's about keeping the circle tight. First of all, how are you? I don't think we said that. How are you? How are you?

How's your energy? Thank you? My energy is amazing. I was actually gonna ask you, how the hell are y'all good? I'm good. I appreciate you. It's a good time of the year now, holidays. I feel beat. I know it's a it's a weird time still though last year was really weird. This year is still a little weird. But you got new music out and the best time I feel like to drop music. It's keys miss That's what I'm calling that Keiths miss. That chain is nuts. Thank you?

Where my tests beautiful? That it's so hip hop and soul, that's dopey. I figure everybody else bring out their chains. Actually, Swizzy, he gave me this for his birthday. His birthday, he gave me this. I thought that was kind of fire. So what you know, we've been seeing you now doing doing more and more interviews, More and more people are starting to know who Alicia Keys really is. We really didn't know, like you did do what what? What what? And then it just Keys took off and then we

really didn't see you know what type of keys? This part of Keys? I think you right, And I guess I didn't ever realize it because I live with myself, so I know who I am, and I know how I feel, and I know what I do, and I know how vibe and all of my friends and people that rock with me, they know me. So I guess I didn't. And every time I come to an interviewer, I come to a thing, I'm always the same person.

You can't say like I'm acting differently. But I guess I just never realized that you people didn't actually get to connect with me. I think because of maybe the type of interviews they were, so it didn't allow us to like get into the zone the way that maybe some of these ones more recently have felt. Who is Alicia Keys in twenty twenty one, We're going into twenty twenty? Who are you now? Who had twenty twenty two? It's crazy? Um Man, you know, I'm a lot of the same

person and that I've always been. I'm definitely I'm definitely that same kind of empathetic, relatable, boots on the ground type of girl woman. Um But I definitely have a lot more wisdom. I have a lot more confidence. I have a lot more understanding of just just what's real and what's fake. I think sometimes this you know, this world is game. This industry can really be confusing, you know, you know, you get confused about what's actual and what's not.

So um So anyway, but just like having an amazing time I'm on my music. Fully, I'm better than ever on that on that side, and I just feel like I'm just a person who is really clear about who I am and what I want and where I'm going. Do your kids understand they have famous parents. They're so mad they'd be like you gotta go again, you have to go again, and they always try to guilt chip me extra like, but I'm gonna be right back every time I go, I come back and you can perform

with me. Yeah, they're starting to like that. I'm noticing my younger genesis. He's very, very shy. He is the boss, and he don't play no games. He don't like you. He's like, no, he don't care what He's not trying to do it be like nice to anybody. But he's starting to like being on the stage a little bit, which is a shocker because he's super shy. The other day he was like, Mommy, why he didn't call me on stage. I was like, uh, I try to play you like you want to go off there? Yes, so

anyway that yeah, they do like that now. I remember back in the day, there were some things about management, right that people were talking about and speculating on when you had first on a deal because you got signed at an early early age, right fourteen, And then I remember hearing that like they were charging you like some crazy percentage and then you had to get rid of management.

What was the real story behind that? Really? Um? You know, I was really with the same management for a really a long time, and I don't think that it was like some crazy percentage. To be honest, the commissions in the business is just you know, it's like they're too high. And then you have a management commission, you have a business management commission, you have a lawyer commission, and you add all those commissions up and you end up with less than all of them. But you know what I mean.

So I think that it's not that they were doing something that wasn't standard. The problem is that industry standard is incorrect and so as a young person you don't really know those things, and so you just do what you think you're supposed to do. And then finally five years down the line, when I was looking at my bottom line and my you know, management, business managers and lawyers were coming back with more money and I was on the road for two years straight, I was like, oh,

what's happening. So again, it's just an education process. I don't think it was like some major drama or thing that they were like stealing from me. It was more that this is what it usually is, and did you manage that? How do you adjust that? You just got to tell you I'm not paying you that. Yeah, Like I'm like, that's not happening. I get it that that's

what the standard is. But what has to happen for me is I need to have a long term you know, I need to be able to This needs to be a long term thing for me, not a short term thing. So you reapproached them and you say, I'm comfortable doing this. I won't do I want to do hourly. I don't want to do percentages. I want to monitor it, I want to see it. And you just got to get on top of your So once I figured out what to do, I could actually execute it. But at first

you're in there like what it might do? You know? So once I got past that, that's all. I think. It was just that to clear it up. It never see it never seemed like you had trouble gaining creative control and freedom throughout your whole career. Even in the early days. They let you just do you. I have to say they definitely always I always had control of my music for sure, and I do think my first

management was really instrumental on that. They were really about like me being at the head of my table, so they knew that I was playing. They knew I was producing, they knew I was writing, they knew this was my sognic, my sound, and it was really about like how to get the best out of it. And we tried at the beginning, we tried to do like all of the things where all the other producers do the thing. It

just didn't work because it didn't sound like me. It wasn't New York enough, it wasn't like the vibe enough. So I think it definitely. I think it definitely. I've always had control of my sound. That's one thing I really appreciate it. It was in marketing and promotions that in your first deal they couldn't get a grasp on, you think, because clearly you blew up after that first deal, so you think the very first the very first deal, they just was corny, right, But you know, I think

it just wasn't the right place for me. You know, now that I know and I believe in divine timing, you know, you realize that it just wasn't right. So I was I had to move out of there so that I could move on to the next thing. So I'm actually grateful that they were corny and didn't understand what I was doing because then um, I could move on. All right. We got mored with Alicia Keys. When we

come back, don't move It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning everybody A CJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Alicia Keys. It's crazy, is this is the Alicia Keys that? I don't think everybody ever seen it in their life, you know. I mean just when I'm hearing you on drink Champs. Oh, she's a just the cockiness, just how you feel, just the authentic. But we never got a

chance to hear you speak. And I think it's a different side, you know, because we loved the music, but we didn't know eight Keys, right, you know what I mean? But now it's like New Yorker. She was punch you in your face, like this is that that vibe which I loved? I was gonna ask at twelve, what got you into singing and playing the piano and being a musician? At twelve, coming from New York City Hell's kitchen, Everybody's running around outside? What got you say? No, this is

what I want to do. I don't know what always attracted me to the piano. It was almost like a calling kind of. I think, I just I don't even know nobody. I really nobody had no played. My grandmother played, but I barely saw her because she lived in like a whole other place. Um, so I didn't There wasn't somebody that was around me that kind of led me there. So I think it was a calling on the piano side. And then once I got a chance to have have access to one, because it's like who has a piano?

Like that's that's the world we don't use because we don't have them record, you know what I mean? So so I think, you know, oh, that's what it was. I got. Um there was like a a strange gift that was a person kind of was moving and they didn't know what to do with this kind of piano they had in their family or whatever, and they said like could you use it? So it was one of those weird things that would never happen ever and did. And so I think that was kind of the door

that opened it up, right? And how did you get into the Industrycause they said your mother was a paralegal, so how did you How did m know about the music industry. She did, like, how did the family know about getting you a deal? Like how she did it. I wasn't raised by my father, so my mother definitely was both for me and she she didn't know. She

didn't know. Um, we happened to stumble on we were at the pl doing all of these uh kind of we were putting together a group and rehearsing at PL on a hundred thirty seventh like every day after school, and so, um, she didn't know anything. These guys kind of were like, hey, we you know, we think your daughter can do some stuff, and this is what we could do. And I remember they be in our little apartment. In our apartment was like tiny and they were kind

of big. They'd just be sitting there taking up all the space. And I think she just I think she probably felt really distrustful. I think she just had to she decided to kind of go with it. But I don't think she knew anything. Now. On the first record on the album sample Truth, Yes, I love push Man. I just felt like he has such an energy a zone. Um you know, I love how he flows. It feels like he just zooms right into the truth and paint you a picture that voice is so like you just

feel like you're right there with him everywhere. It's a movie to me every time that he rhymes. So I can't believe I never worked with him before. I've always admired him and that that temple of the Truth and the song that I wrote it is called Plentiful. It feels like his lane right there. So it was perfect. Why that sample, because that sample is just so so good. Can I don't feel like anybody used that. I don't know how that woman under the radar and I didn't

even realize that that Yay producing. I didn't really realize that. So obviously, Yeah and I have history in regards to music we've made, so it was kind of fresh to come back there, not only with Yay, but obviously with the Truth Beanie Big love to Beanie and then push it.

But it felt, you know, it's all about keys. This record is all about keys and those that organ and the way that I put the keys on top of it, it felt like it had this urgency and this darkness that and I like how the vocals I chose were like a jazzy zone, So I liked this mixture of world. It felt like it was a nice way to lure you into the world. I didn't know you did you don't know my name? What? I don't know why. I never thought now that I feel you like I didn't

know it did the truth? Did you know he did the truth? I did when I tried to sample it, I tried. I tried to sample it to use for a commercial from my team. I hey, now that's fire. Also, they said you would do another verses You're open to it another versus another verses. Yes, I don't know who I'm trying to kill. When I'm listening to you on on drink chips, it was like, yeah, that John Legend was cool? You know that was that was like, you know, it was obvious. But I'm ready for that war. I'm

ready for that action whatever. I love that. Who would be the one? Who? Do you? Do? You do? You know? I mean I agree with them at the end. Look record one of my favorite records. I need to Beyonce, the Rihanna, the Maridos, one of those three. Okay, yeah, do you feel like you don't get mentioned in that? That spear enough? No, I don't feel like that. I

feel like I'm in my own lane anyway. Definitely. Yeah, So I could see why people wouldn't because I don't really belong there, And sometimes I feel like Alicia Keys was born in the wrong era musically, What you mean you don't belong there? I just feel like I belong in my own space, you know. I just felt I occupy my own space that really doesn't fit. Actually, And even that when he said you believe you know my name wouldn't get mentioned within that, I don't even feel

like it fits quite in that group. But I do feel like I was born in the wrong era too, I really do. I was probably missed it by a decade or two. Even when you listening to the album now, you're like, all right, wait a minute, where we at? Yeah? I mean it's like you feel Billy Holliday like that, you see me see those movies where it's like the bars and the lights are low and everybody's smoking cigars cigarettes,

Like that's how Let's feel moves. I know, I know what you mean, and that's why I fit perfect here right now, because it's meant to be like that, and it's meant to have that mixture. So I don't, actually I don't I disagree like you splin gass like you're a fifteen term Grammy Award winning artists. I don't. I don't think people heard of for her lane. She don't like, but you never do rb she do. The pop doesn't really make like that. There you go. It's kind of

like that. Yeah, I feel like that's I think what you thought I was saying was as if I don't fit in that lane, as if I'm somehow not belonging there. I'm mormented, as if it's maybe it's unlaneable. It's not a comparison. You can't put this song against this song because they're no, they're not. They just don't. They're not in the same space or whatever. But she got me, she got you, and she got I like that drink Champs.

You told the story about Prince right now, Has anybody else ever not cleared a sample for you besides Prince um, because I can't imagine Alicia Keys comes right and she's like when you told that story, though it was respectful, but you understood. Yeah, I understand that Prince is very into ownership and making sure the right people get the money. But I can't see somebody saying they have We're not going to sign off on this Alicia Keys record. You know what I mean, I guess I don't have any

that comes to my head. That was like super super disappointing, you know, when I was like no, um so yeah, and I don't remember another one that was my best that's my best one, you though, No, he loved me, which is why he said no. Record. He loved me, which is why he said no. And I actually appreciate he said no in a way that it wasn't no for me. It was no who owned what would come of it? It wasn't no to me, you know what

I mean. I learned a lot of things about ownership, like did you and Prince have those type of conversations? So I understand now. And he was very obviously super vocal. He didn't he didn't overpreachum when we were I was with him, I feel like he was more concerned about me cursing Prince. He hated it because he was you know what I mean, So at that point, you know, that was the most important thing to him, and he

knew I was gonna slip up. You know when I met Prince, that's the first thing I said, because I couldn't think of nothing the only thing he what did? He said, Because it's Prince. I didn't think I'll be you A certain people you get around, you don't realize you started scrugg Hey, you know I was reading your whole witness too, I think to say. And then he asked for a picture in princeon No, that picture. He tried to sneak one anyway. We first we see prints, we go high. I go high, he says, how he

goes witness. Yeah, we'll talk about that one day we're connected, talk to me. We're talking about that. Princess. No, he said, no, I don't. He's I don't want to take pictures right now. Okay, he tried to sneak a picture while Prince is walking off. I did. He took a picture and it was there. It was Prince floating away right literally, which is just it that represents him perfect. And guess what ten seconds later that's in my phone. That was just black true

story back the picture. And then it was gone, oh that hurts so bad over het. No, that's when I let me let me know Princess other worldly being. Question. Now I get it all a little movie. We got more with Alicia Keys when we come back it's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning Morning, everybody is DJ enjy, Angela Yee, Scharlom and the guy we are the Breakfast Club was

still kicking it with Alicia Keys. Yeah. When you recorded this album, Keys and you were riding has where you home during the pandemic, doing during doing this very much in love, it feels like, definitely, I feel like a lot of people pick up on the love and it's I am in love, and so that is actually right.

And I also feel like I've also become able to express my love for myself, So I think a lot of the love that you feel is also me loving all myself and expressing like that love too, So it's both. It's obviously the love I have for my family, the love I have for Swiss, and the love that I have for myself. So I think that's what's coming out. Letting him hear these songs while you were writing them and recording them, m oh man, you know, he he definitely.

He always kind of stays out of my way because he just, you know, lets me have my space, and he really likes that. But I love to play him songs after I'm finished, especially when I love them and when he loves them as fresh. You know, he sees extra overdramatic about everything. So I love I love that energy. But have I always been and um not the way that I thought I did. I thought that I thought that I was very much clear about what self love meant.

But I realized that I didn't have that confidence and I didn't have that actual love. If I did, I would have probably made different choices, or I would probably have demanded more for myself in a lot of ways, which is what I understand now. So what about worthiness? How long did it take you to get to a feeling of work? Yeah? The worthiness, that's a deep one because I always you know, I was raised by a

feminist for sure. I always felt very much like I would talked about I'm worth it and as I'm a superwoman and all these things, which I actually knew when I was writing them that I didn't feel that way. I didn't quite feel the ways I was writing, which is why I need to write them. But I didn't realize that it was actually a worth a self worth issue that I had. So it took a minute longer than I wish. I wish I got it earlier, but I would say it within the past, you know, probably

in the past three three to five years. Same. Why is that? Is that about December twenty nineteen, I got to the place of worthiness. Who absolutely and do you know what it was like or just like kind of accumulated anything. It was a seed somebody planted in me when they told me that even if you don't feel worthy, just know God knows you're worthy. And it was like,

you're just gonna You're just gonna feel it. And literally I remember sitting in the house around this time twenty nineteen and it just hit me, like, you know what I'm worthy? You know that's that's a hard one. I really feel like we don't feel like that a lot. When you remember when you got to that point, you

remember the moment. I remember the moment I realized that I didn't feel worthy um and I realized that that was you know, I realized by being almost so accommodating that expressed that I didn't feel worthy to fight for myself. You're trying to please e anybody else. But I also realized it's something to fighting for yourself. You have to be like, guess what I want this? What are you gonna do about it accommodate me as opposed to me always accommodating you. And so I started to recognize that

that's what I was doing. And I thought it was humility. I thought it was you know, fluidity. I thought it was kindness, I thought it was whatever. But I realized it was actually I felt some type of way about I didn't have the self worth that I should have had. It was because of guilt, too, because of when you come from a certain environment, you have all this success and you're the breadwinner and all this other stuff. Is

it that too, yep, yep. I think that there was definitely a lot of a lot of unneeded guilt about my success and feeling like I had to fit in and wanting to um, you know, I just didn't want to. I want to be with the same people I've always been with. I didn't want to feel like I wasn't able to they weren't able to relate to me, or I wasn't able to relate to them. So I think it's in a lot of ways, I would kind of just act that way. So yeah, I did think but

that was my own thing. They didn't even feel like that. That's the thing we do we project for other people. They didn't even feel like that. So that that's you know how that goes. Said first you and Swiss, you didn't see Swiss as that type of person, Like I didn't have a connection at first, How y'all didn't have that connection? What didn't you see in Swiss at first? I was like, Naby, come on, it's like we literally day and night. And at least I thought that, noting

that that's what I'm saying, y'all, we actually did. We're exactly the same, but I didn't realize that at the time. Um. One thing I guess that we are a bit different is is that he is one million times more flashy than I am. Definitely, I am, definitely, but I mean but I'm exercising, I'm practicing, and I love it. I'm with it. But the but I think that's probably the

biggest one. You know, he he would the first car he probably got, you know, with some probably Ferrari mans of Rieti and Zoe something, you know what I mean. The first car I got was like a mins of six to six, Like I was just like you know what I want to me? That was fresh as hell. I was like I was excited, but I didn't even think that I could have more. You know, it's always just kind of about like just doing the basics type of thing again, which goes back to where we were.

And also I want to actually drive in the street and actually like be able to go places. And I realized that now. I didn't understand that then, and so for me that would probably be what I felt was so so day and night. He was like super over the top everything everything. But but I realized that was just some exercising what he deserves. And that's the thing that's the thing difference between him and I, and I think we actually have balanced each other in a beautiful

way with that. It's like you get to express what you deserve. I think we're taught that we're not supposed to have nice things because it's somehow unholy or not right. And I think what happened where that comes from. I think it's just because people can take that and get confused about it and get very selfish about it as opposed to being given. But one thing that Swiss is is super given. He never does anything for himself before he makes sure that everybody is straight. So that's the fact.

My first b check. Ever in this business because of Swiss, you didn't have to do that for me at all. He's that guy, He's always that guy. So I think that's what happens. You get might get misconstrued, and then you start only thinking about yourself as opposed to making sure that everybody is good. So as long as that's happening and there's a balance, and there's nothing wrong with happen.

I heard the first piano that you got, he tried to get you to get rid of it and get something way nice, and he was like, no, first first piano she ever received. When I guess when you signed the deal, they gave you a piano right, and you wouldn't get rid of He was like this way better pianos, more expensive piano, and you was like, Nabby, you know, he wanted everything to be liver Rachi, so you know, but the I don't think he knew. He didn't realize.

So in our house, it is my first piano, and that's the piano that I was given by Columbia when I was sixteen, and so that's like a memory. They could put it in another room because you guys got plenty of rooms. We like this one we like. Now, when did you come up with the idea to do unlocked and originals? What made you say this is how it's going to happen. I really wanted to, but first of all, the originals, the concept of Keys definitely was always about the piano, and I really did want it

to have that just that stripped backfield. There's something about yeah, and so I think Keys was really like coming back home and so that you're just really wanting to be about the piano and writing it and making it all about that. And as I did that, I loved it and it was it was fire, but there was there's also this other side of me to what you're saying that I think it's hard to show all of you, for all of us, I mean, for all of us, it's hard to really display that you know or have

an opportunity to display that. And it felt like doing this unlocked piece, not only was it exciting because it allowed us to reinterpret this these originals, but it allowed it to be the other side of me that I wouldn't have wanted just a whole album of unlocked, and I didn't Maybe I would have wanted a whole original, but I love them together because it's full speed. I have a little movie, got more with Alicia Keys. When we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. God, Morning Morning.

Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club were still kicking it with Alicia Keys. Chalomagne. You got a song called a Nat King Cole on the project. Yeah, he's clearly a musical hero of yours, definitely, And I think it was just the theme that we started to write. I wrote that with a woman named Natalie Hemby, who's super fresh, and the theme that we wanted to write was about because the theme of Keys and the theme of my life right now is really

about completely never holding back ever again. And to you, you actually are allowed to be on your bullshit? Who said you have to tune down? Toned down? Like, where did that come from? So that was a part of

my life for a long time. I rejected, I don't want to know more and so and so that song really describes that, like tear down the chandeliers and be like your most majestic and to me, Nat King Cole represents that there's like an elegance and a prowess and like a legacy and some really a power that he represents. And that's why that's why we wanted to call it that ill though, because a lot of people actually don't

even know Nat King cole believe it or not. I think there's a whole generation of people that don't, you know. And that's fresh though, I think, because you know, because I think it turns people on to like, well, who was that and what is that? I think you know, like a song or two because you over the holiday as you hear like unforgetable, you know what I mean, and you're like ter exactly. But but so that that wordplay, it was more about be unforgettable like Na kincole Um.

By the way, the Wayne verse on that, to me is so masterful. I love how he I love that verse. Well, what when for somebody who doesn't fit into an era musically? What is your inspiration? What do you have into everything? Everything? I love to I love to listen to everything. I love to listen to things that I love new discoveries. I love listening to new artists. I love, you know, taking it back to like the errors of the thirties and the fifties and the sixties and the seventies going

through the errors are ill. So I just think listening to everything and then just allowing it to kind of be in there and then go wherever it goes. It's part of what creates the time is I think it's because I actually love all the errors that it sounds sexual. I was listening to Drink Champs. You were talking about the Empire State Record, and you said when you first did it, you did it in LA and Jay called

you and was like, could you change the vocals? What was your mind frame at that point, like you know who you're talking to was wasn't at that at any point. I feel like he probably had a really hard time making that call. I don't feel like he wanted to make that call. You can't have it, nobody have the engineer, Jay said, you know, um, so I feel like it was like, hey, how you doing, how's the kids? How's moms? Like? Yeah,

can you change your verse? Yeah? Now he was just like a sub and and I was like, hey, you know, I was excited because I was like, okay, we got the record, and I knew I was really trying hard to meet his deadline, and so I worked hard to get it and so I was like, yeah, you got it, you heard it. And I feel like right when I asked him you got it, you heard it was right where he was like yeah, and then he was just like, you know, I was thinking. I was just thinking that.

I was wondering, do you think you could do one more time? Could you do it one more time? And I definitely remember I was like what In my head, I was like, what one more time I did this ship? But he was like, because I just I just feel like, maybe one more time really gonna get the vibe. And I had to respect it, because you know, you do. It's true. There's an energy on a record and you can feel it right away, and it was his record.

He knew what he was looking for, so I had to respect that I possibly could have gave it one more time. And I did realize that I was sick because I sang it sick because I was trying to hit the deadline, and so you know, it's just you could tell. But I think what he really wanted was me to talk more on it, because he was like, could you do more of the you know you go, uh, yeah, you do all of that. Can I can I get a little more of that. So he just had the direction that gave me I can and I took it.

If you could do a collab album with somebody, who would it be? Oh damn. I would want it to be something crazy, like three or four people from like whole different universes. I think that would be so ill. Who would it be? Got it? Okay, it's gonna be Um Kendrick M that's it. Yeah, that's what it is. I feel like that would be almost impossible to get done between Honestly, it's gonna be a chicky one, but I think it had sound out reading yea hou at

least a record. Yeah, let's go. I feel like we could get an EP, maybe four songs, it's something, let's see. I'm gonna push for it. I feel like you might be just planting the seed. I think that might be already done, maybe a record or something. I wanted to ask, what would this version of Alicia Keys tell Alicia in

two thousand and one? I think she would tell her too, like don't back down, don't back down, like what you what you see, what you feel, what you need, There's nothing wrong with that, and that you deserve it, so ask for it, like before you before you think you gotta pivot or change or fix or accommodate, like ask for what you want first, and definitely like to know that you you know what you're doing, nobody knows what to do better than you, because I think that that

happens to a lot of us. We start to listen to a bunch of people that we think no more, or they've been in the game longer, or they done more, or they we think they could take us somewhere we can't take ourselves. But that's actually fake, It's not real. Son, Did you ever backdown? Because I don't see you as a as a somebody that would backdown. It was more in little ways, not like you know, not liking I'm definitely strong minded, strong headed for sure, but I do

feel like I could overcompromise. I remember you told the story about a photographer who made you feel uncomfortable and had you like I'm buying your pants a little and now do this and yeah, and for women out there, you don't have to do anything that makes you feel uncomfortable. You feel like this is all right. I'm just I don't want to be difficult and I'm just yeah, or you feel like again, Man, this is a really this is a major photographer. They shoot all the time. They

shoot the biggest this and the biggest that. And if he says that I should probably unbutton the top part of my pants, maybe that's okay. That's probably good because he no, it's good. It don't feel good. Don't ask me to unbut my pants? Are you crazy? You creek? Like you know, it's okay, it's okay to like, it's okay to like guard protect yourself, man, protect yourself. Nobody's gonna protect you, So protect yourself. And that's what I

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Yeta Gordon. Salute to everyone who listens to the Breakfast Club on ninety three point three to beat in Jacksonville. Salute to the young man Quail p Okay. That record he got out titled Charlemagne. When the world officially opens back up, you know, not like Florida open. I mean, you know, like open open, not I don't give an f open back up. But opens back up, so the rest of us who don't take risks like you Floridians

can move around. When I come to the nine or four, I want everybody to sing my name like Quail PR. I'm not responding. Let's practice NB, say my name Charlemagne, Hey yo, Quail P. What's happening my brother? How you young king? What's happening to nephew? See how I ignored Envy because he didn't sing my name the way I wanted him to. Okay, but Quail P did it right? Now?

What did your uncle Charla always say about Florida? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida, and today once again through all of us who notice to be true correct see ken yet To. Gordon was arrested and charged with strong arm robbery and possession with intent to use drug parad familia. I personally don't think anyone who gets arrested on an intent to use charge should be sent to jail. They should be sent to a rehab facility. But that's just my opinion

and has nothing to do with this story. Really, But what did can yet To do to get arrested for strong armed robbery. Well, according to police, she robbed the bank. Look, man, times is hard and the slums we're from, I tell y'all all the time, people are starving. Your stomach. Don't stop growling because the check is on the way. Your stomach stops growling. When you get that check, cash it, and now you got some bread to buy, some bread

to feed yourself. Okay, not making excuses for this woman at all, because we all make choices in life and have to be held accountable for the consequences of our actions. And when you rob a bank nine times out of ten, you're going to jail. I'm just simply trying to get you all in the mindset of this woman. Okay. Now, whenever I think about bank robberies, first thing I think about is how much did they get right? Second thing I think about is how did they get away? What

was the getaway vehicle? There's literally nothing you can't find online because I google top ten getaway cars for robbing banks. Let's run them down real quick. Number ten is the nineteen thirty two Ford V eight. That's the old black cars you see in all the old black and white movies. Number nine is the Toyota Corolla. Number eight, it's an ambulance. See it's all about something that is fast, is something that blends in. Nothing blends in like an ambulance. Number

seven is a Cadillac CTSV wagon. Number six is the taxi. Yet again, another vehic blends right in. Number five is the General Lee. You know, the bright orange Dodge charge you the duke boards you're driving duke for hazard, you know that one. Number four is the Alpine armored Cadillac Escalade. Don't know where you just find one of those. Number three is the Porsche Cayenne Turbo s. Number two is the Dodge Charger SRT three ninety two. That's for speed.

And the number one getaway car for bank robberies is the incas Hearing APC. That's the big armor truck that the SWAT team draft. No regular civilian is gonna have that, so I don't even know that's on there. But the point of all these vehicles is either for speed are to blend in. Well, ken Yeta must have been going for the blend in part because she damn show wasn't going for the speed. Would you like to know what her getaway vehicle a choice was? Whould you what is it?

Let's go to WJA XTBS forty seven for the report police. The Jacksonville Sheriff's Office is releasing the identity of a woman accused of robbing a bank from her wheelchair. This is a new mug shot of ken Yetta Gordon. Actually, news Jacks broke the news yesterday when police say that a woman became angry while discussing her account at the Region's bank in downtown Jacksonville. She's accused of telling a worker that she was going to kill everyone inside and

that this was a robbery. She left, they say, in a motorized wheelchair after getting the cash. She was arrested just a few blocks away. Stop. I don't like when you go rogue drop. All right, Jesus, what the flaida is going on here? All right? There's only three people who could have truly gotten away with this crime. One Rolling Ray okay. Two Snoop Dogg's Character and training Day

Three Professor Charles Xavier. Those are the only three individuals who who could have gotten away with robbing a bank in a wheelchair. Now, let me tell you something. This is why Florida is full of brilliant idiots. Because robbing a bank in a wheelchair, truly is the best way to blend in, even if you don't really need a wheelchair. If you roll in the bank, rob the bank, then roll out, okay, all the block of two, all right,

once you get up and walk, ditch the wheelchair. Now you don't even fit the description of what the bank teller saw. It's genius, yes, all right. The sad part

is this woman didn't have a plan. I'm not encouraging people to rob banks, No, I'm just saying, can yet them picture a plan before you picture yourself rolling into a bank asking for a big bank roll and listen, just because I have understanding of this woman's situation, meaning I understand why she would be in the mind frame the robber bank simply because I understand the current economic

condition a lot of people are facing. It's easy to say, can ye to, should have just rolled with the punch's life was throwing at her, But no, folks is broke and you can't tell people to just roll with it. Okay. In life, we all have a role to play, but sometimes what your casted ass is out of your control. Remember when Kodak Black said he can't even roll in peace? Remember that neither ken ken Yeida, because she's starting waiting on this damn government to roll out these damn stimulus checks.

By the way, she's only thirty nine, only thirty nine. I'm inspired by people who keep rolling no matter their age. But she's just thirty nine, and she's at the point where, even though she's disabled in a wheel, just she has to rob a bank at thirty nine. Think about that, Canda. I feel your pain. But even though I feel your pain, I still have to give this story the credit it deserves for being stupid. But can Yida, I'm praying for you. I want you to get the help you need for

your drug problem because they found a crack pipe on you. Yes, she was riding dirty for real, But I'm telling you, can you to? I want you to get clean, put the bs behind you, and one day, I promise you, the good times will roll. Please give can you to Gordon? The sweet sounds of the Hamletones. Oh No, you are the dogee of the day, the dogee oh the day. Ye Oh. We're not gonna play a game. Ya don't want to play a game. We're not gonna do that.

We're not gonna play a game I don't want to play. Well, I have no problem rolling out a game of Jess what race it? Alright? Alright, here are the context clues. All right. I don't even know if he's a contact clue. I don't even know if I use that correctly. But can you to Gordon? Okay, Jacksonville, Florida, robbed the bank and a motorized wheelchair. Oh you want a description? I need to give a description. I don't give a description. A little quick descriptions. Com you the description that the

police were using. Hold okay, this is the description. Hold on? You see if I could find it? Hold on, officers are looking for an adult, blank female, thirty nine years of age with short blonde hair. Oh, I got you now. We thought it was easy. I thought it was easy. You thought short blonde hair? Can YadA? I said, can you do? Can you you know that's how you pronounced it? Can you eat the garden? Ramirez? All right? Who said Ramirez? I'm down for the profile and but go okay, Porter Angelie,

are you sure you don't want to play? I think it is a white man, a white man, white man? Okay, okay, all right, all right, I see where we take it. It uh, And I ain't telling y'all whether y'all wright or wrong. We're just gonna lead this. Why didn't you ask me to sing your name? Why you only asked um Envy? Well, now I asked him the same my name. I thought you want to him to sing it? No, he said say it you want to say? I can say his name ahead, Charlo, go ahead, quail P. I'm

not telling y'all's black three month. I'm not telling y'all. All right, all right, what can you to go again? Thank you? Interpretation O charmckay, y'all guess figure it out on your own, go do your own research. I'm not telling y'all white man, I agree with you. That's what I saw. All right. We got more. Don't move. It's the best of the Breakfast Club. The breakfast Club, the breakfast Club. Your morning's will never be the same. Everybody's DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomagne, the guy. We all the

Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed we have Judge Faith Jenkins. Welcome back, Hello, thank you. I'm doing great. It's been years. It's been three years since I've been here. Twenty times twice. Yes, wow, wow, I know what I changed for you in three years. A lot changed three years. I got a puppy, Cooper. He is a cavalier Yorky Poodle mix, very energetic little guy, but a lot of responsibility. There wasn't expecting that. It's

a dog a lot on the bad. No, okay, good, No, he's got a lot on the bad. He sleeps in his own room. We's his own room. Well, yeah, because I wanted him to learn very early on to be independent, so we put him. We create trained him early on with two things we were able to do. Create train him and potty train him. Okay, if you don't do that from the beginning, then they hate it. Yes, yes, you don't train them to get used to that, and

they'll go in there. Like my dog would look all sad every time, because in the beginning I would let her just like roam around. But then I was like, okay, sometimes we have to put her up if she's been bad. Yeah, and she'll look all sad and then I feel bad. Yeah. But what the trainer said, from the very beginning, the biggest mistake people make is they give the dogs too much freedom. Absolutely, and so you have to rain that in early on, but yeah, a lot a lot of

other things change. I got married married, yes, thank you, thank you, and that I'm sure early on kind of trade over so everything applies. Uh so got Mary started divorce court, switch judge shows you also judge faith and they alm on divorce Court. And then of course I wrote system settled the court. It's interesting, is the show real like when you say, when when you go to the divorce court after all you divorced? Or is it

more after that? Really they change the premise of the show several years ago where you can be on the show and don't have to be married. So there's a there's a there's a different aspect of the show before Your Vows where people come in they've been in their relationship for a while and they're just they're trying to

decide to get whether to get married or not. So that's a part of the show where we address the dudes and don't and if if they actually should perceive and move forward to the next level in their relationship. So it's really opened up to where it's not just married couples. And then legally, do we give divorces on the show? No, we give advice on what to do when you're at this breaking point, and people sometimes bring their papers and we will refer them to other attorneys.

Friends could come on the show and friends, no, no, no, we haven't gone that far opening up. It's it's it's real people in relationships with real issues. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I thought that when they go to the voice court, they get legally. Legally, we cannot grant a divorce per se, but we can give them advice on how to proceed in going to the next level. I had someone come in and she'd been married for eleven years and they have two children together, and he

has three other kids. And it was really crazy because this man would take her kids and go to the other women and the other kids. They all knew each other, but she remained uninvolved but just knowing about the other relationship.

And I thought, how do you get to that level in your life where this is such a painful experience for you, but you're accepting it under some kind of premise in your mind that it's better to stay in this marriage because you think having him around would be better than nothing at all, staying in a toxic relationship. A relationship that's not good for you, doesn't help your children.

All you're doing is normalizing really inappropriate behavior in front of them, and they in turn, they see it all and it affects what their relationships would be like later on in life. Some people feel like once they take a vow, then they can't break that vow because it's no matter what, or for better or worse the best. And I've heard some people feel like, you know, they're

relying on that. Some people treat women if they leave a relationship or leave a man for doing something like they're wrong because they didn't stick through it, because you got to be right or die. Yeah, that's a that's a mistake that people make because you know, at all times in your life there are a lot of people that you love in your life, and one of the tough things about life is a lot of times you have to walk away from people that you love in

order to protect your peace. Now, that's kind of like the chapter in your book, are dealing with rejection When life set you free? Yeah, I mean when one of the big chapters in the book, one of my favorite chapters is the chapter on rejection. Because we all go through rejection, and for a long time I didn't know how to handle it. So and I moved to New York right after I got out of school, so I was in the city trying to figure all of this stuff out. And I'll never forget one of the first

times I got rejected. I was I was actually in college. There was an annual event called Casino Night at my school and I wasn't dating anyone. I didn't date much in college at all. I was really about the books and all the organizations, then cheering and all that stuff. And I asked a guy to go to Casino Night with me, just innocent, not a really a date, but just go to this event. And he hesitated, he paused, and then he told me no. And I remember because he was We were friends, and he was a good

looking guy, he was cute. I knew he was single, so I thought, well, you can't just go to Casino Night. But he told me no, and I remember being embarrassed at the time and avoiding him for the rest of the semester, not wanting to see him. Well, five years later, I was walking down the street in my college town and I ran into him and he pulled me to the side. I was with some friends. He pulled me to the side. He was like, Hey, can I talk

to you for a second. I said, okay. He said, do you remember several years ago when you asked me to casino night? He said, well, I wanted to tell you that I really liked you, but I didn't have a suit. I didn't have anything to wear. And I was too embarrassed to tell you that I didn't have a suit or anything to wear. But I thought it was really interesting because how many times do we take rejection or someone telling us know, and then we go down a rabbit hole and we make it about us

that's right? Wow? Am I not good enough? Am I not smart enough? Am I'm not pretty enough? And it could absolutely have nothing to do with you, And everything to do with them is something that they're going through or their perspective, or some guy who just doesn't have a suit. So I learned from that experience and then going through other experiences dealing with rejection in my life, how not to internalize it and take it so personal all the time, whether it's with a love interest, a job,

whatever it is that you're dealing with rejection. Most often it's just not about you. So Luke to Judge Phi Jenkins. We're talking to her right now. Her new book sys Don't Settle, How to Stay Smart and Matters that a Heart is out right now, and I want to tell y'all to man, make sure y'all tune in tonight to my late night talk show, to God's Honest Truth. It comes on at ten pm on Comedy Central. Okay, you

need to get in tune. If you're not in tune, and you need to tune in tonight because we got Vice President Amala Harris joining us under God's Honest Truth on Comedy Central tonight at ten pm. Join me, why don't you? And why you're watching? Use the hashtag TGHT. We'll be back with more. Judge Faith Jenkins. The Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Judge Faith Jenkins. Show me if you weren't Judge Faith Jenkins, we have came up to you five years ago and apologizing all that

it was five years later. I was. I was just running into him at the school. So we try to ask you that again, be like, but I got a money for a suit now, No, I think he just wanted to tell me. It was like he wanted to get that off of his chest. He really wanted me to know because he gave me no explanation at the time.

A lot of you know a lot of times, and we have to release ourselves from wanting to know why because I you know, I talk about this in the book too, how I would call people and try to find out, Well, I just want closure and I want to know why this didn't happen. You know what's going on here, and you have to release this need to want to know why. Closure doesn't come from other people, it comes from you. Because I always say, don't give anybody else that kind of power over your life. No

one should have the power. When I got married to my husband, Kenny always say that he um. When I got married to Kenny, I remember at being a time and this was just a year and eight months ago, by the way. So I spent a long time out in these dating streets, living, learning, growing and really having an appreciation for what I knew would work for me in a relationship and what wouldn't. What I was willing to compromise on, what I wasn't willing to compromise on.

All my likes and dislikes, This is what you should be doing when you're single, figuring out who you are. You're you know, you got married and everybody's path is different. You got married at an early age, so you grew up together with your wife, whereas for me, I was single for so long and very independent. I was wondering, how am I going to mesh with somebody else when I haven't lived with anybody even since college. So all

of the things you're thinking about. But I remember at the time when I got to the place where I knew I was at a point in my life I wanted to get married. I was so happy with where I was in my life, and I thought, I want to bring somebody in my life who's going to add to this happiness, not make me happy. And like you said, sometimes people get married and they think once we get married, he'll turn into the person, or still turn into the person. Things will stay to be and that does not happen.

Like that. Marriage doesn't change anything about anybody. It may change your last name, but that's it. So people come in they want they're dating their reality, but they want to marry potential. And that is a big mistake because you have to learn radical acceptance accept this person for who they are, and if their core values aren't lined up with your core values, what about a wedding do you think is going to change that? Because all it does when you get married is really revealing more about

who people are. It's revealing what's already there. And so if you don't like what's there, nothing about getting married is going to change that. It's only going to a exacerbate any problems that you already see on the circle. What did you mean, Kenny? And how did you know he was the one? I met him through a blind date? Really? Yeah, I had just gone through a breakup six months prior to meeting him, and I had a conversation with God.

I had a real honest conversation and I said, I've learned all of these lessons in my life at this point, what else is there for me to learn in the relationship space? I really believe it's time, And I wrote, I took a sheet of paper down and I said, within this next year, this is what I want to see happen in my life. And one of those things

is I want to be my husband. And I took that sheet of paper down and I wrote that, and I go through this stage, all this this process in the book of what I did to manifest what I wanted to happen in my life. And six months later I met him and I was not just out there like every day, okay, is that is that him? Is that my husband? Like with everyone? I was just living my life. So I decided I was going to go

and take some singing lessons again. I was going to put out a Christmas album and well, you got bored down to fa. I was gonna put out a kid hit single, hit single and uh. And so I started taking some voice lessons. I met up with this super producer, Aaron Lindsay, and the moment I sat down with him, he said, for him it clicked. She should meet Kenny. He said, there they would be perfect for each other. And so he set us up and we met. In the rest is history. We just went to lunch, no pressure.

We sat and talked for two hours. What does the pressure like for you? And people asking all the time when are you gonna get married? When are you gonna have kids? Because you discussed that. Also, Yeah, it's hard because being single in my twenties and in my thirties and being from Louisiana. So I would go home for the holidays, and I had this one uh aunt, Freda, who would show up with her watery mac and cheese, but always, you know, questioning me and my relationships. Some

names have been changed, but she could show up. And but then I started getting it from strangers, right. And if you're not careful, you can really internalize that and can make you feel like somehow you're lacking. Because no one asked me do you want to get married? They would just say why aren't you as if there were

no other option for me, I get wrong. And so if you're not careful, though, that pressure can get to you and you can start to feel like, is me being single something I need to explain to other people? Is this something I need to defend. No, there are almost eight billion people on this planet. We can't all be doing the same things at the same time. We all have a different life path, a different life journey.

Please stop asking people when they're going to get married, when they're going to have kids, and let people live their lives. So I talk about that in my book How do you navigate when the questioning comes for you? I will tell you this. I was never unhappily single. I lived my life. If I had waited, I would have lived half my life just existing because I just got married last year. So I just made a determination

that I was going to live my best life. And guess how I met my husband going to do something that I just loved doing, going to pursue a different hobby, something that I was interested in, singing again, and that's how I ended up meeting my husband. And I hear so many other women talk about that, how they were doing something that they loved in their own lives and that's how they met the person that they ended up

having this authentic love experience with. So in my book, it's really a practical guide because I did not have these huge examples of love, like I said, And this is the book that I would have wanted to have when I moved to New York at twenty five years old. I wish somebody would have given me something like this to read, as you were a whole and happy when

you met Kenny Austin. When I think that's important too, because sometimes people feel like they need the other person to complete them, when really you both should be complete people when you come together to have a great relationship, yes, and that happiness and wholeness. As you know, it's a journey because as you get older, it's actually hard harder to fall in love as you get older, especially you know, being single in my twenties and thirties, because you've been

through heartbreak. And if you're not careful over time, you can become very cynical about love. And you cannot be a cynic about love and expected to attract it in your life at the same time. Break that down here you talking about that in a book. I think, I think that's very important. Well, you can't be a cynic about love and expect to attract it in your life at the same time. At some point you have to be able to work on releasing the past. You can't

say all men, all men are dogs. I want one exactly exactly because I went through that time where all of those things were really about fear of opening myself up to love again, and I realized that that fear wasn't serving me. All it was was poisoning my perspective. And so if you really want love, you can't have this poisonous mindset about what you really think about it based on your past. But I also don't believe that you can just, at the drop of a hat say, Okay,

I'm gonna free myself from my past. Nothing about my past is gonna bother me anymore. I'm not going to bring this to my next relationship. That's not realistic. What is realistic, though, it's recognizing what your triggers are and working on it. It is a process so that you don't make somebody new come in your life and pay for something they had nothing to do within your past. All we Little movie got more with Judge Faith Jenkins.

When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club more everybody to see j Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Judge Faith Jenkins. How does he propose here in Central Park than Paul? Yeah, and my wife in Central Park? Yeah? So who sings better then? Who? Oh? Yeah? Well come on down there. I'm dealing with a professional here who's been doing this a long time, twenty five years.

But I don't sink in front of Kenny was was was therapy a requirement? Because all my sister friends and he refused the data man right now, or even take a man serious if they're not doing the work on themselves. We took things a step further. We went to pre engagement counseling. Wow, what is that? Before we got engaged?

We did counseling sessions with a pastor. Because for me, I think after you get engaged and you've announced and you've told people, and then when you go to counseling or therapy sessions, it's harder for people to say, well, hold up, wait a minute, is this what I really want to do, because everybody knows there's that extra pressure there. So for us, things were going, things had gone so well, and a lot of people think, by the way, oh, well, what's going on? Are you having problems? Is that? Is

that where you were going to counseling? It was the opposite. We weren't having these issues and we were we were so in sync on what our core values were. I thought, Okay, I haven't been married before. Are there questions I'm not asking? Is there is there something else that I need to delve into that I'm not so, what's the best way to find that out? Go to a professional? It was my idea. It was my idea. I said, So was he nervous when you said that? Because not at all,

not at all. And I thought that's a good way to be proactive. So proactive because I do feel like in a relationship, because you won't always get along, you have to know how to handle each other when issues come up. Absolutely, how to deal with conflict in an emotionally mature way, how to deal with anger and an emotionally buture way, because that's really the key. The quickest way to ruin romance in any relationship and marriage is unkindness.

I think you got to hang first. Corinthians thirteen. Was it four through eight? Up in your house? As a constant reminder, Yeah, because that's when you talk about therapy, you talk about counseling, that's what you're talking about. You're talking about getting out in front of it something. You don't wait till the wheels fall off and then try to go and salvage the relationship and go to therapy.

Then wait till your house gets ribbed to get an alarm system exactly exactly, so you're out in front of it and you're doing the work in advance. And so that's what we did when we went to our pre engagement counseling before we ever got engaged, when we were talking about getting married, and then when we did get engaged, we did it with so much peace because we've been

through these counseling sessions. And I remember at the end, and by the way, Kenny was like, if he weren't a singer, he would be I think he would be a preacher. I think he would be I think he would be a counselor. There's the wisdom that came out in those sessions. I remember my counselor turning because he, you know, he's been through I didn't marry somebody who's

who hasn't been tested right like I have. We both had relationships that didn't work out for one reason or another, and we've both been tested in those areas, and so when we went through those counseling sessions to hear the wisdom they came out of him. I remember the pastor turning around at one point and he was looking like, Okay, what do you have to say. I heard what he said, what's your response to that? And I was like, uh,

you know. But at the end, I remember him saying, I have no reservations whatsoever in blessing the two of you and moving forward in marriage A plus, and counseling we got an A plus. Fires I know you talk about triggers and red flags also in the book, So for you, what were some of those? For me? I would not date someone who had a history of infidelity. I'm not saying that people don't change, right, but for me,

um patterns in people's lives reveal a lot. Most guys aren't going to admit to you that they have a history of infidelity either. You have to do your due diligence. And that's a section. That's a section in the book. You do your due diligence. You do the best you can. I mean you sometimes I'm not saying turn your house into a cside lab in the back end and pluck a hair while he's sleeping, But I'm just saying, do your due diligence, if you know, But if you know.

See a lot of people know, though, Angela, and they still choose to look the other way. It's like, Okay, there's a red flag, but how red is this red flag? Or how exactly how far back have you going on Instagram and you're snooping? Yeah, I perused history of infidelity. Yeah, a history of infidelity is a red flag to me. Um, honesty.

If you tell me you're a vegan, but I see you on Snapchat with wings, you know, it's like, just be just be honest, don't don't don't try to present yourself as somebody that you're not, because to me, those little things really do add up if you're not really anything else. Also, work ethic a good work ethic because I'm very ambitious and so when you know, though, when you just know what you're just know what your red

flags are, what things are important to you. If you know you don't want to date long distance, don't complain to me about your boyfriend not calling you from Dubai if he lives in Dubai. So, Um, just knowing what they are and identifying them and recognizing them, you know, red means stop. People will not change for you. They change for themselves. And no one wants to change because you put a gun to their head. It has to come from within. Do you think your healing journey your

love journey, it's part of your healing journey anyway. I don't project on my husband or on people in my life or responsibility that they have to help me heal in every aspect. I think when people come in your life, in your life, they are a part of your journey,

but that responsibility really has to come from you. And when I have women in divorce court and they're very broken and they've been through a lot, and I tell them, I say, you know, the trauma that you experience in your past was not your responsibility, It was not your fault, but your healing really is. So I never wanted to project any hurt from my past onto somebody else for them to take their responsibility to heal me, because again, that power had to come from me, you know. In closing,

I do want to say, sis, don't settle. Some people have only that settling down means you settle, right, They're like, oh, it's in the word settling down. So you can't have everything, and sometimes you have to just compromise and say, Okay, I'm willing to settle. But to see how you've managed to wait to find the right person and not settle and get exceed the expectations that you had, I think as a testament to making sure that you can know

that you can have it all right. Your career, your relationship and in your own timing and not have to worry about what anybody else has to say. Right, your life's journey is your journey. And I think that especially as women, we have to embrace and love what our journey is. No comparison is the thief of joy, and stop comparing our lives to somebody else. And you know, have these milestones and your happiness can't be tied to getting married, Your happiness can't be tied to having children.

Your happiness can't be tied to your next TV show, your next job, because then you'll always be chasing a carrot on a moving stick. So what this really is about is learning to be happy right where you are. Look at everything that's happened in the in the past year and a half and what we've learned about life. If you don't love today where you are today, then you just missed out on a day of living your life. Because there are a lot of people who wish they

could be in your shoes right now, just living. So when I talk about not settling, it really is about embracing your journey and being at peace where you are and not allowing somebody else to pressure you to be somewhere where you're not supposed to be because this is your journey, this is what you're doing, all right, well, sis, don't settle faith, Jenkins. I had given Steve Harvey a run for his money quote in the front of the yes, yes, yes, he's a good friend and supported my book and I

really appreciate that. And all of you too joining us this morning and thank you. No, that's not your first Christmas together. Second, it's our second. Yeah, that's an amazing Christmas. Thank you duet or something for us where for Christmas? Your Christmas song? Duet? Oh you know, Angel, don't put me on the spot like that. Maybe one day, Jenkins. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, So Breakfast Club, Your morning's will never be the same. One of y'all is

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simply this, never blame anyone in life. The good people give you happiness. The worst people give you a lesson. The best people give you memories. Remember that, especially during the holiday season. Breakfast Club, you know I'm finish for y'all. Dumb