¶ From Real Estate to Music Career
From real estate to real life and everything in between the Brad Wiseman show and now your host , brad Wiseman . All right , all right , we are back in the studio and , gosh , I just loved doing this show . It's so fun . We had a lot of different guests on , but we have never had this guest on . This is not a repeat .
This is a first time guest and I'm super excited about announcing we have Morgan Kanapalski here in the studio . She has hello . How are you ?
I'm so excited .
I'm glad you're excited . You can tell she's a performer right , you can tell . She actually is not excited , but she's acting like it .
That's what it is . I'm here , I'm ready .
Yeah .
I've never done a podcast before .
Neither have I . It's my first time . Oh my God , yeah cool .
We'll get through it together .
Yeah , we'll do this together . That's right . So no , I . What's funny about how I know you is I know your father for many , many years , Pat , yeah , I mean I'm also . I mean he is guys too . He's got a great sense of humor .
He does , yes , I . I want to say I got my humor from him . I'm not that funny .
No , you're kind of a smart ass , but I can see it , yeah , but he is like the man .
Everyone loves my dad Like he's just the best .
He's fun . Yeah , he's fun .
That is the best way to describe it .
He's fun and your mom's cool too .
My mom is so cool , yes , people will go out and they'll be like well , where are your parents ?
I'm like , oh , I'm not , you don't .
And they're like no , no , like where's Pat and Lisa ?
I'm like okay well , I'm not the fun one . Is that what that means ? I'm not the fun one ?
No , oh , my goodness , they're always at a show and everyone's like no , your parents didn't come Like , why not Like they love ?
And you're like , I'm here to entertain , I know , like I was , like I'm here for me to do something , but they no , they're the best . Yeah . So speaking of entertainment , I hear that's what you do .
I do . I do it a lot .
You do a lot .
Full time . It's my thing .
Cononation .
Cononation .
So tell me about Cononation Now . You've been singing since you're nine .
from what I've heard , yes , so not like I mean pretty young a long time , but not as why .
There was there a moment that you were like that's what I want to do . There was .
Awesome . Okay , so there wasn't a moment that I was like this is what I'm going to do , but there was a moment where I was like I'm really bad at everything else , so there has to be something that I'm good at like soccer gymnastics not so good at those things , all the things swimming . I was like no , no this is All right .
I would think you'd be good at swimming .
Bolly ball basketball . Didn't work , nothing , it was it was brutal , so we bailed on that and then I remember central Catholic was doing a musical , because I went to St Catherine's and then I switched over to public school , but for their music program . So audition for Joseph and the amazing technical .
Oh my God , I love that . I was in that show . It at Redding Civic Theater . I was in that show .
Like wait , I think we were in .
We had the same time , we might have been there . Yes .
Tyler Bell was the . Was the young , oh my god .
Yes , I think you're right . Okay , so , brad , we were in a show together . We were probably in a show together . Yeah , it was running some big theater . It was a great show . I love that show .
And I , and even that I was like well , I already did this one , so I'm like I'm ready yeah . But , but no , that was my first ever audition and I was like all right , I like it . I can do it , and then at 12, . So I started doing community theater . And then 12 we were doing there were auditions for the whiz .
Oh , another good show .
It was back then it was called Alpha Omega and I got . Dorothy and I remember like talking about my dad . He came to every single show . Both of my parents did .
They're very supportive , but so supportive yes .
And we can talk about that too . But they I remember after the show , my dad's like okay , I think she can sing , like this is something we should work with Yep . So how ?
old were you then , was that ?
I was 12? .
You were 12 . Okay .
Seventh grade .
Yeah , and that's when he was like , yeah , there's something here .
Okay , I think we should try and like pursue this a little more , like get her some lessons , really like hone in on it . So at that time I was like all about it . I was theater girl . I did a lot of you know , chorus choir . I did band in high school Like I just what instrument . The alto saxophone alto saxophone .
Can you still play ? No , I couldn't really play it back then , so it was kind of like basketball .
It was like that yeah , I was like I'm doing it for the , for everything about it yeah , exactly yeah . But but no , it was great . So theater really took a , took a place in my life and from that I went to . I was like , okay , I want to pursue this professionally .
And I went to DeSales University for theater and how'd that work out Not so , not so great .
The only reason I said that because I know where this ended .
Yes , yes , so that was a brief moment .
So you just tried it . I tried it . It was a DeSales trial period . Yes , it was .
I was dipping my feet in the water Got you . And I really did still love the theater aspect of everything and I still love , but I was , and even when I left you had to have like a meeting with your mentor and they would like hey , why are you leaving ? What are you doing ? You know , et cetera .
And I remember her saying , like , listen your voice , you should still pursue this . She's like , but the acting and the dancing , like go to New York take classes , workshops , you know really . So after the sales , that was the long career .
It's the long career . That's not uncommon though for a Musician , for somebody that has , because you knew what you wanted to do . You know , so to try to Mold yourself into a situation . It wasn't gonna work .
Well , and I just don't think I knew what I was getting myself into yeah like my family , we don't . I think my parents didn't even know what they were getting themselves into you know nobody's musical .
No , no , I can't sing , mom can't sing .
We don't know what I want them to say . Don't want them to , don't want to say my mom's the same way . Do not want her to sing maybe a sweet Caroline , you know , oh yeah , but that's but that song . The night takes that turn .
Not one of my favorite songs . Oh , when somebody yells that out , it's like hearing free bird . You know how many times , oh , do you do free bird .
We know a part of it . Yeah , just to get to shut somebody up , yeah and we'll be like when he , when he like , what's it like ? Can I get some type of something ?
here yeah , yeah .
But , um , but you know free birds like the top request , like , do you even like it ?
I can't even . And it's long , right , it's long never .
We never do the full thing , or again , it's just like a little sniffing just to appease the person ? Yeah , and then they'll wait , you actually know it .
Yeah , and then they get happy and it's all about pleasing the crowd and then they're your customers if you look at that way .
We want them to have a good time , so it's always that . But so you ?
go from to sales and then you decide , okay , I'm gonna do this . And then did you start working on just your craft of of performing ?
Yeah , so I am again
¶ Musician's Journey in the Local Scene
. There were a lot of many firsts , but at the time we were again my parents like what do we do with this ? So open mics were a big or a big thing around here and I started going to a few of them . Yeah and I remember Deb and Jeff rudder at chef Allen .
Okay they knew I could sing and they were having a birthday party and they're like Morgan , would you perform at ?
school .
And that was my first gig , my first .
Add in here and how old them you think .
I want to say I was 19 , okay , I think yeah that's where it all gets cut . It's like I don't really know the years and the timing , because when you're out of school , then you're like well , how do I ?
everything .
Yeah , but then 2020 on is when I was like okay , I know this is yeah um , but yeah , so I I had Maybe like three weeks to kind of get it together . Wow and a show got my parent my dad called sweet water . I was like what do we need to get her ?
Oh , sweet Water's the best . That's where all this stuff from . I love sweet water , holy grail right . Yes , yes for musicians .
And yeah , I did it , I swear .
I talked to your dad during these things because there was times where I would see him at the Lobster thing that he used to do and and and .
Then there was times after , but he would be like he'd see me out at the different picnics or whatever and He'd be like so what do you think of this and what , what , what do he would ask for guidance because I , my parents , went through that and I went through and I was around the same age , I mean .
I was started .
I started young , very yeah , started 13 or 14 Um started singing out when I was 15 .
Yeah , and you don't know , Like , what to do you don't know . I feel like it's uh sorry .
Um , I'm getting tangled here , you know but my question's gonna , it's gonna all wrapped up Italian hands , I'm like um , but no , you just don't know what to do , and so we started doing .
You know the solo shows in around town . And then , um , um , eric koala of the uptown band I know he was looking for a sub and my dad same thing kind of took part in that new him and was like , hey , my daughter , do you want to see where things go ? So after that I was hired full time , I was with Eric and I learned so much .
Oh , yeah , he's , he's , he's a master . Yeah , yeah , I'm related to him actually . Yeah , he's uh , second cousin , second or third cousin , second cousin , okay , yeah , yeah , absolutely yeah , we're . They didn't yep , we're cousins , oh my gosh Distance .
Yeah , oh , absolutely I see . Yeah , yeah , I see him .
From time to time we don't see him that much , but yeah , he's very . He is very good at the systems that it takes , he's good at the bookings , he's good at all that stuff and he's , he's he's done a great job , yeah .
I learned so much from him about the wedding scene the private party is how to entertain people you know , and even the music we played . I learned a lot of that classic stuff that people you know because I was 1920 at the time . So you're looking at it like , okay , 20 year old singing , I will survive or something You're like .
Okay but I learned to really love that .
So it taught me a lot . What gives you passion for that type of music ?
Yeah , and then after that , I joined Joe Bachman . Yeah , another , you know .
Yeah , is that another like a bigger band type thing ?
Yeah , so Joe Bachman in the party . He um because again the cover scene . We didn't like Tony Mancuso , he was in Burnsiana .
Okay , oh , yeah , yeah , I knew .
Burnsiana absolutely . And , uh , my dad very close to him as well .
Wasn't Jeff Eberton at Burnsiana ? Yeah , I think at one point , at one point .
Um , but yeah , Tony was like no , this is a thing , you can make money . Oh , absolutely Perform for people Like it's a , it's a .
It's a business . It's a business , it is actually a business .
Yeah , so I was like all right cool . Um so I joined another band , party band , and then after and I had really cool experiences with that .
And now you're doing your own thing .
And now , finally , I um . After a year with Joe in 2019 , I took over the band .
Okay .
And then our like coming out year in season was 2020 .
Oh great , what a great time to go public . What a time Everybody loved being near each other . It was great you could sing through a mask .
Cars were going crazy with their , you know , high tops and and soles .
Oh my God , remember how we have distance . You could sit in this table , but you can't sit in this table . Oh , or , if you're sitting , you can take the mask off . If you stand up , you're going to COVID .
You're done .
You're done , and you felt almost so bad for the people for people watching you because you're like the entertainment business really hurt from that .
Oh , a hundred percent .
That was terrible .
It was like what do you ?
what do you do ? How do you ?
how do you do that ? You know and coming out and being like , oh hey , like I have a band now , please hire me , let me .
So did you do a gig before the March thing that ?
happened . Yes , so actually . So it's secrets oh my gosh , you're talking about secrets a little bit .
Yeah , it's never busy there . That is , that's what you call a super spreader atmosphere .
It's , it's crazy , and I love it there . It's the best . It's one of my definitely favorite .
It's one of my favorite places to do it . Yes , how do you ?
how do you it's ? I mean , if you've never been to Jamaica USA .
I mean , come on , this is a commercial Jamaica USA , that's the place to go . Yes , Exactly .
So the whole day baby drinking and tonight's it's the best , yeah , um . But no , I love it there and you have to . You know , you have to kind of audition there , but you , you just go and you do a set , yeah , um , so they can see you , which honestly makes sense . Sure , because you know big music . Yeah absolutely . And um .
Our audition was like the weekend before everything .
Oh my gosh .
So I was honestly so thankful , cause I'm like , well , great secret solace .
But then I'm like oh my God , the world is shutting down . It's shutting down , yeah .
So at that moment you're kind of like , well , it doesn't really matter at that point , but now our , our audition was right before everything closed down .
Amazing .
And um when did ?
you start up again . Do you remember when you started up again ? Was it yes ?
And it's 2020 , 2021 . I mean it was actually the summer of 2020 , because Dewey Beach You're not going to keep that place shut down ? Yeah , I mean the people won't let you yeah .
And they drink so much . No virus can live there . It's . There's no way a virus is living in Dewey , do I just said ? I just called it what I call it . Yeah , dewey Beach instead of Dewey Beach . That's what we used to call it .
Hey , I you know um , if you've never been to Dewey Beach , go it is a hidden , absolutely . Like small town , but it's the best it is . It's great vibe and um , I grew up going there , so it's very close to my heart .
Very near and dear yeah and um they .
They did everything in their power to keep musicians working .
Good for them . They keep open .
Good for them , and you know , cork jams looked a little different .
Yeah .
I remember my first cork jam was again high tops .
Yeah .
People are sitting and they're like what is this Meanwhile , I'm just excited to play there .
Because I've never been there before .
So I'm like oh my gosh . And I remember the one band they were like I'm so sorry . I was like why are you sorry ?
Like .
I don't like this is great , like I'm performing , I'm working , you know , and they just said it was very different . And then , lo and behold , after the pandemic was over .
Things were back to normal . Now you're busy .
I did a first cork jam and I was like holy .
I saw pictures . I think of that . Yeah , that looks crazy .
It's crazy . It's one of the I have to .
honestly , I have to the cork jam is at the place called Bottle and Cork right . Bottle and Cork yes , and it's a big , and that's a big con , like a concert , little concert venue .
National acts will come in . Yeah , national acts come in there , and everything , yeah , and it's so cool , so you're a national .
You played in Key West , you played in California before , or something like that right .
Yeah , we do a lot of traveling . Yeah , we're shipping up to Boston . We do that at least twice a year . Two bars there just again really great spot . I hate that they're so far , but you know Boston it makes it worth . Have you been there ?
I've never been to Boston and as a musician I've heard it's like a great place to go .
It really it's great Like minus the drive .
It's yeah , otherwise it's a great city .
But it really is a lot of fun .
So yeah , it's a lot of traveling . What about original music , you know , is that I know there was a song out , was it a couple of years ago ? Yes it was .
Right .
What was it called ?
Someone knew .
Yes , yes , yes , good song . I remember listening to it several times . I remember also it was on the radio it was . Was it on X Serious , xm or something or one of those things , because I remember it coming on .
We did kind of like a release of it radio and I have a video of me like sitting in my car listening .
Yes , and I saw that too .
So it was really cool . How ?
does that feel ?
It was such a surreal moment because you do the cover band , you perform and I would say my favorite part of what I do is the performing aspect . Absolutely absolutely , which you can relate to Absolutely . You know it's great .
Studio's fine , but performing it's where it's at . You have energy in front of people .
It's crazy , so the fact that I was trying to see what's next what else ? Is there . The original music thing kind of came into play and a very talented musician , writer , producer , JJ Rupp , who he was in the music scene as well .
Okay .
Very again . Jj Rupp , go check him out . Do we beat ?
Little plug , little plug .
But no , he's great , and we just thought we're like , hey , let's work together , let's do a song . And we did and I love it . It's been a minute , but we do actually have another song coming out . Yes .
I'm very excited about it . Wow , that's awesome and that'll be out in 2024? .
Yes , I'm hoping it's out , or by the time this airs it should be off by then .
Yes , awesome perfect .
Yes , I'm really excited , that's really cool .
You'll have to get that to us right away so we can share and get that out there . I love listening to new music . So let's , you were talking about a little bit about the support from your parents . You know you , probably it reminds me of my parents when I was going through the music scene .
They were so supportive and to this day still , they still come to see me sing at their Airdy House every time I sing there and it helps and it's something that obviously you probably couldn't do without .
Yeah , it's the best , they're the best .
Did they still follow you ? Did they still ?
Yeah , we're , you know , new Year's Eve there with me . This Saturday we're in AC and they're like all right , what's the plan ?
I'm coming with and I'm like , yeah , like , please call .
You know , but they're great I saw you in Atlantic City .
You were at the the what's it called Hard Rock Hard Rock . But I was right at that bar when you first come in the Lobby Bar , which I
¶ Musical Pursuits and Favorite Gigs
love , the Lobby Bar she didn't recognize me , Hugo . I waved and then I cried and then I went to bed because she didn't know who I was . I was like , ah , this is just terrible . I'm just terrible . I should have her on a podcast . As she remembers , me .
Oh my gosh , yeah , I would when you're on stage like that , you're like I know I just I felt so bad because I put it to get cause I'm singing . I've been there , I understand .
Who knows what I'm singing at the time , right , but I'm like You're very good though , by the way .
I didn't even say that . Yet , hugo , she has a very good voice , thank you , you have a really good voice .
I was listening to you I don't know if it's last night or this morning when I was kind of preparing for this and I was just listening to some of your songs and some of your demos and things like that , and , yeah , you have a very good voice , very nice voice , very versatile too . You can do a lot of different things .
I tried to . And again with the passive , Eric , and then Joe Bachman and even my original stuff . You know , I like being versatile If we're singing , man , I feel like a woman , or if we're singing it took me all night long you know it's people want to hear a little bit of everything , and that's what we try to do , so thank you .
So let's go back to the originals again real quick , cause that , to me , is it's really important , because obviously , if you want to , if you want to , you can do the cover stuff the rest of your life . You can make a good living . It's a lot of fun , you know it's not , there's nothing wrong with that .
But you know , the original songs obviously is something that's obviously near and dear to your heart , because it's like it's like it's like it's your child , it's your baby . So how is that ? Is that what you want to really pursue ? You want to keep writing and doing that .
I do , I definitely do , I . You know you get to a point where the band can all . There's always improvement , there's always growth there and for that we want to get into more like the clubs . That's that's working . We definitely want to get into more private events weddings we've done weddings and I really like those as well .
So I think as I get older , I'm getting a little more like okay , I would like to do more of these get into it Because it has a little like you see abroad or you see the first day , like you know , it's a different experience . It's a different experience . So along with that , the original music again .
It's just different , it's a lot more work a lot more time . It's you have to really , and especially this day and age with social media . It's it's like easier , but it's almost not because it's- .
Well , scotty and I were talking about that . You did . You heard that podcast . We talked about that where you know , is it easier or is it harder ? You know what I mean . Like you can get yourself out there easier because you're not spending a ton of money to get it out there , but then again you have a lot more competition .
So many people .
That's doing the same thing you're doing . Yeah , so it's tough . I mean it's not an easy business to get into it really is not I don't care what you . You know it's really not easy , but you know , I think you should just keep trying , do it .
You know , whatever you can do , do your thing , man , because that's for that would be nice if you could do that , you know .
If you can do both at the same time . And again , it's you know , talking to other people who have done it in the past , you know they say like you have to do it for you or it's not gonna work , you know it has to come from a special place or something relatable , because if not , then you're just gonna be , it's just not gonna work .
Yeah , you gotta write for purpose .
Yeah , and you have to really be . It is your baby .
Yeah , it's your baby . You're like I care about this , I wanna pursue it , I wanna push it so . Very , very cool . So where do you see yourself in five years ?
Oh my gosh , I get this question a lot and I still feel like I need to work on the answer . Well then , how about ?
four and a half years , is that better ?
so that way you can say you can get it Okay , a little bit . Four and a half years , a lot easier , very high fee .
That takes us six months .
Yeah , I still want music to be in my life , in whatever capacity that is , whether it's a full-time wedding band or still doing the cover scene or definitely original music . I think that looking long-term for me is so hard because of family , children .
There's so many things , so many different paths that it can take and I still feel like I got a lot of life left in me to pursue the originals and music .
Oh , absolutely , yeah , there's plenty of time .
So that's what they tell me .
Actually you do , because there's people that I mean look at Chris Stapleton , look at some of the people that are now coming out . I mean , if you write good songs , it doesn't matter how old you are . If you write good songs and also if you're in a cover band , it doesn't matter how old you are .
I mean there's people that are I mean , look at old man , scotty Mann . I mean he's still doing it . He's gonna love that , right , he's gonna kill it . Scotty , I did not say that . Actually it was Morgan that said that earlier and then I just repeated it is what it was . No , but I think you have plenty of time . It's just like I said .
It's about writing what's in your soul and doing that , and that's what's gonna make the difference .
Well , it does take time , but I definitely regret not putting more . Like you said , it's been a minute and it really has . So , from someone new to now , I look back and I'm like what was I doing ? Like why wasn't I putting more effort into it ? Or why wasn't I writing more or trying to ? It takes .
How many songs do you have to write till you get a good one ?
I'm sure a bunch where everyone would be doing it , or it could be . You just write one and it's amazing .
Yeah , you never know .
It's like anything , it's you don't know , and it's kind of has to come through you and it will be what it's gonna be .
So I hope for that I hope for whatever it is , it's good stuff and I have a good time .
Well , that's good . So where are you playing ? Let me just put it this way what was your most favorite gig ?
Oh , I do get this question and I love it . My God can .
I not answer no , no , no . What do you like with your pizza ? What do you like on your ?
pizza , never from a hog like Brad Wyzenau . So this is what makes it extra special . Well , also , I feel like I have so many different answers for what time like where I was at in my life .
Well , you don't wanna piss anybody off too ?
Cause they'll be like .
I thought my gig was the favorite .
Yeah , like , don't ask me what my favorite venue is . Yeah , oh , geez , yeah . See , that's what I'm gonna ask next . I will plead the favor . I can't , no , no .
So favorite gig , like just everything was just going and that doesn't mean anything . It could be what was going on in your world .
Oh yeah .
Because I you know , as a performer , you can't bring your A-game every single night . There's times where you're sick , there's times where you're pissed off at something and not that you're gonna be grumpy on stage but there's nights and I just remember this that it just clicks and you're like this is what I love .
Yeah , well , there are definitely venues that have that . So , like talking venues aside , but a really cool experience and gig that we got to do was when I was with Joe Bachman in the party and we went to . We were doing like Bristol Tennessee .
Ooh , just fun state .
Yeah , it was crazy , but the whole experience of it was just crazy . Like you got a little like a trailer and you were singing on a stage and it was for everyone who was at the . Like Bristol , Tennessee . Like NASCAR race .
Oh my God , yeah , bristol , yeah , that's a big one , that's a big one . It was many moons ago , so yeah , but it was NASCAR .
Yeah , so we sang at that . And it was crazy , like I was just like , oh my God , I've never seen so many people in my life and you felt , you just felt like a superstar , like it was such a cool thing .
That's cool .
That I was like wow , I'm probably never gonna do this again , so I'll take it all in .
But that's awesome , that's really cool . So what do you like to do when you're time off ? I know it's another question everybody else asks .
You know what ? People don't ask me this .
See , look , I found one , found one , found one .
They don't ask me this because they're like do you have another ? Like , do you have a life ?
And I'm like not really .
But no friends , family , boyfriend , I just take whatever time I have off to you like to go somewhere warm ?
I ?
want Florida .
Yeah , I figure I'm a big Florida , I can tell . Yeah , I was just like I'm gonna go back Key West . I love Key West .
Key West . I'm dying to go to Mexico .
Oh , mexico's great , Like I'm , like I'm on a beach somewhere , yep , yep , anywhere . Warm blue water , palm trees , those are all just good things , right ?
Yeah , you're never sad . You're never sad with a pina colada or a margarita , like you just never are .
Well , you're gonna have to let us know when this new song comes out , and then you're gonna let us share it on all the socials and things like that . And wow , what a great , great
¶ Music Promotion and Name Discussion
conversation . We talked for 25 minutes , believe it or not .
I have a lot to say .
Hugo , you didn't have any of the questions I hope , no , no , just inspire mesmerize .
Mesmerize , she's got a lot of energy , A lot of energy .
Yeah , that's good , that's good , awesome . Thanks for being here . Thank you so much for having me and you're very welcome . Thank you All . Right , there you have it . Morgan Kanapalski , you know . And then I can understand now why they went to Conno Nation , because the name Kanapalski is a little difficult to say .
It's too much . Yeah , a little bit , it doesn't fit . My dad always said he's like your name has to be in it , but it's gotta be small , it's gotta be too long , we gotta try that .
There you go . All right , come see us every Thursday 7 pm on Facebook , Instagram , YouTube and everywhere else . All right , that's about it , See ya .
Thank you .
