This Is Local Leadership Without the Ego
Aug 12, 2025•17 min•Ep. 179
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Episode description
Mark Hoppen is a former city manager and Strong Towns member who’s been quietly strengthening communities in Washington state for decades. In this Bottom Up Short, Norm and Mark talk about why someone should pursue a career in city management, what real priorities look like in that role, and how to lead with both care and practicality.
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