#87 - Kalan.FrFr

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the proper uh? What is the proper pronunciation? For people who don't know? It's Kaitlyn for real for real? Okay, but you can say too for real too, because too for real is just for real for real two for it's the two for two of them. Yeah, yeah, shout Outsai, my guy, We're gonna just gonna We're just gonna call you two for two for Kiln too for. I got the a lot. I like that anyway, Yo, you got your new project coming out, Well, this is a deluxe of your project that came out earlier this year, Too

for Real two deluxe. How how are you approaching the deluxe thing? Because sometimes we get like four new songs and then you got people like Ozzi put a whole fucking new album out. What do you do? I got like six of them, so it's six new songs, new songs, yeah, any new features, Like was on a Dirk on there shout out to the City Blue Books on there you feel Me? Mada madea singing on there. You made it? Yeah, Rock Nature does his whole team. Yeah, that's it. That's

all right. Well listen you You know what I appreciated about how you kind of like started to heat up. Was you like you like went to Atlanta, you went to the South and he was tapping it with like guys like DJ Win and like you was like you kind of like like heat it up, like made sure like your relationships and like you were popping in like other regions as well as La, where I feel like a lot of times in La, like this is like such a small world sometimes and it's it's easy to

get wrapped up and being hot here. But very few already from out here in the last decade or so have like really transcended nationwide. You know what I'm saying, right, I would say, like you feel me? It was never like planned, right, like that that wasn't never really a plan. It's just where I was ending up. And like looking back at it now, I could go back and be like, yeah, well I did this, and then this helped this and that, Like but like at the time, it just was like, hey,

fuck it, I'm gonna just go to Atlanta. Like do you think that that helped you? Though? Like in the long run, I felt like Atlanta gave me the confidence that I needed to be an artist overall, you know, because it's like in Atlanta, everybody is everything. This is facts, like everybody does everything. And then like to me, just from what I see is like everybody a celebrity. It

don't matter what you do. You could be a janitor, you could be a rapper, you could own a club, you could you feel me have a car wash, It don't matter what she is. But like everybody promote theyself as like they're the best shit. This is the best shit. You got to come right here to get this, Like

all right, you feel me? So like just with with being out there being like seeing everybody else, just like being so confident in it matter if a nigga had five followers or ten followers, like he knew he was hard. You know. I had like a lot of trouble in the beginning, like understanding like if I was like good at making music, because it's like I liked it. You feel me the people around me, like my homies, and shit,

it was telling me it was cool. But then my homies you know what they're supposed to be like, and you feel me, they're telling me shit was weak too. But it was just like, are you telling me this is good for me? Are you telling me this is good enough for the world? You know what I mean.

So it was more like just being in Atlanta. I don't know, I just kind of grew as a person fully, you know, not really like saying like the like the big music scene, because like when I first got to Atlanta, I was doing the same shit I was doing in La Like I was recording in the house, like all the two for real, the whole first two phar Real

was recorded in the house, like Edu kitchen. Yeah, Like what's crazy too, because like you said, like I think, like a lot of people, you left home, went to college in San Diego, played football there, and then went

to Atlanta to just get the music ship going. Like you know, people don't realize like leaving your hometown and taking that like risk, that scary unknown, like just leaving it helps so much because dude, you can't be scared to grow like and expand it because like you gotta meet people everywhere, like nine times out of ten, like I'm not gonna shut up here in front of act like the city is fucking because a lot of people wasn't,

you know. So it was just like, all right, shit, I'm gonna just go out here, you know, see if they fuck with me. Yeah, I just think that like people get so I feel like when you're at home and you get comfortable, you almost got to leave home to realize, like, yeah, it's like sink or swim. You ain't got your family around, You got nobody around. That's what it was like. Nigga Beckle was all the way up against the wall. It was like you feel me, either you're gonna make this shit happen or you not,

you know, and just like I ain't. I'm really blessed. I don't know what it is like I couldn't tell you, like if it's like man should just start working and like people be like I got a lot of the hard work ethic and stuff like that, and then I look back and see it and I like, I enjoy working hard and stuff like that. But you get lost when you're doing something that you want to do like you feel me, like I love doing this shit, so it don't feel like I'm working hard, right, It doesn't

feel like that to me, like you feel me. So when people be like, oh, like he's so humble and he, like you feel me, he works so hard, he put in so much work, like like this is what you're supposed to do. Yeah, if you love what you're doing, they say you never working there in your life, I

ain't working. This shit is just you feel me. It's work, but I ain't working, right, You know it's work because other people are involved now, So now I got to like you feel me, It becomes work when it's like other people's livelihood or all right, nigga, like you feel me like this is how they make their money, This is how they feed their family and stuff like that. So you got to do your part so that you make sure everybody feel me because they taking a chance

on you. You You feel me, So when it will come to that, that's when I started understanding, like it's work, but making music is not work for me, you know, like that shit just fun. Like I like to make music, you know, and I'm always going through ship like you always are inspired to Yeah, he's like you said, if you're always going through shit or you're living your life, you're gonna have new content to write every day. People don't be living or people be faking what they be living.

That's real, bro, People don't be living like that. They be on their phone at home or they be But nigga going the song and talk about he killed six niggas today, Like you mean, no, you didn't. You've been playing two K all day. You feel me, I'm gonna talk about two K. Niggas always want to use Lebroniga's not good. Hey, man, shout to my son. That's my son, man, My son will always be picking the Lakers. I'm like, bro, come on, man, got to pick somebody else. Pick three randoms, man,

three randoms, always tell them. I'm like, yo, just hit the R two. Let the randoms pick and we'll see who wins. Or let's pick the two worst teams in the league and then and let's see who playt see who. Yeah, let's see who's good with the Pistons. You know he always used the Lakers and the bucks Man. Yeah, Joannis is the cheat code in the game too, man, Yeah, what uh so? What when you went into US. So if people don't know you graduated high school, you went

to San Diego State University to play football. How talk about your football past? How long did you play? Like you know life, I played football, like from when I was like my first time playing football was like ten years old when I played up until I was twenty one. Yeah, so it was like twenty two. That was. What would you say football was your first love before music? Nah?

Because I always loved music, like I always been, like I got Michael Jackson teded on me like I always been like a big oh yeah that is Michael Jackson his fee of moonwalking. So like I always been like into Michael Jackson and like in just music period, you too early. I can't do that. Don't do that over here, man, Come on, I'm saying he might have been. Nah, No, you know, I'm just continue to continue. You're always into music? Yeah, I always like music though, but it it's always been

like having two girlfriends. Yeah yeah, so it's just like somebody always like lacked, somebody always felt like I wasn't giving it enough or something like that, and then I got it. Like that was like one of my biggest things, like my coaches just be saying shit like, bro, like you too focused on rap, Like you need to worry about what you need to be doing, and shit like that. Even if I wasn't fucking up, it always was a thing,

you know, like it always was a thing. And I'm not gonna act like I was the best player, like I'll be fucking up, like, oh, wag out, and I'll really not be thinking about what's going on. Like but to the extent of how a lot of like the people around me made it seem it was like it wasn't that deep, but well, I mean, you picked two h two passions that are extremely hard to make it in.

They're definitely both plan as. Yeah, if you think about every like everyone who plays football across the country, and this amount of people make the NFL absolutely and I mean everyone is an artist. Absolutely, everybody is an artist. But it was just like that's why I said I'm blessed, Bro. I can't explain it. It's like I can't explain none of this shit because it's like it's just be happening

and then it happened so fast. And then since I am, I am working and I keep just doing what I'm supposed to do like what I think I'm supposed to do, I just keep doing it. And so the shit just happened right under my eyes, like like looked up and like I used to beg like I do anything to get on Rolling Loud. I don't Role Loud, don't roll out like two years in row. Now that's huge. So it's like you feel me. But now when I got on Rolling Loud, you feel me. I did my shows.

Now I'm not even worried about like that I'm on Rolling Loud. Now I'm worried about like, Okay, how am I going to have a crazy show? How you're going to be crazy? Feel me? How am I going to make my set at Rolling Loud memorable? You know what I mean? Like, so everything is just like what I'm worried about. Perspective, it's just getting different. Yees, like you

want you to get that one thing checked off. It's I mean, I always tell everybody to like remember you know, sometimes I gotta stop and think to myself, like I like, like like try to put myself in that mentality of like I would have killed to be where I am now. Man, there was a point in time where all I wanted

to do was make thirty thousand dollars a year. I was like eighteen, you know what I mean, like with a newborn baby, like thinking, damn, if I could get thirty bands a year, I'll be rich because I'm making twelve fifty an hour on the street team. Like and it's like, you know, you, guys, sometimes you got to put yourself in that in that mentality you know, just to kind of but it's just like when you got there, no for sure, Like it's like, man, this shit and

shit that like you've been going. And the other thing too, is like when you when you're when you're so locked in, bro, like you don't even stop to think about shit, you don't stop to like you passed that shit up real fast. Like it's almost like you don't stop to enjoy it.

I remember getting five hundred dollars for a show, Like I remember like nigga telling me like now you got to pay the perform Yeah, you can't come before you gotta pay, Like all right, cool, well like them same niggas then all right, come on do you fifteen twenty come on Hunian bands? Now? Do you do you feel like? Because because you also obviously you know, going to school in San Diego. Do you feel like you kind of heat it up there first, Yeah, definitely, like because they

fuck with you, they talk with you. Yeah we did. I think we did Flux together. Yeah. It was pretty it was It wasn't like ear. It was like two years ago. But like even before then, like I was doing clubs in San Diego in twenty fifteen. Oh that's crazy. Yeah, but like I was like a whole different artist like then, Like I was like doing like trap shit. When you

start is like get into the melody ship. Like when I was in eleven, I was just listening to beats and I came across uh Papa YouTube and I heard the Finance beat. I was just like I might at the scene, like it's hard, like na Homie was like I started playing, like I start singing and shit, and my nigga, my roommate see Lee a nigga, came out of his room and I was like, yeah, that's that's different, that's it, that's what you need to be doing. And

I was like yeah. So the next day after that, I made Atlanta and we might have went to the club and like his cousins and shit came back with some girls, Like everybody was chilling in the spot and we was playing it and it was like this shit hard, like this tight, Like I was like, yeah, like y'all fuck with that shit. So like maybe like just throughout that week, I just start doing all kinds of beasts like that. Wow. And that's how I came up with too.

For real, I shouldn't say like, uh, people don't know, get right with it. Spruce by Blast and see, look I had that be since probably like twenty fourteen. What do you mean you had that beastis like it was just like he just you know, he sent it to me. So me and Blast, I've been knowing Blast, right, Yeah, so he sent me to beat, but I was only doing trap shit. Okay, So you were like for me, Yeah, he sent me some trap shit too, so I get the trap shit you feel me. But it wasn't hard

like I was doing trap shit. But it wasn't like, Okay, this niggas different. He sound like everybody else doing trap shit, like you feel me to me, That's how I felt. So I came back. That's actually the only song I did in La that and I did uh naked in La. So when I got back to LA I was doing a session. Oh okay, So Ray the Nigga'm signed to f c ran J. I'm signed to SG and Pool

you know Pooh Jeter that own laced. Yeah. Yeah. So Pool was working with Chris Obannen, so I guess they didn't know we knew each other, so they had us come to the studio. So we just came to the studio random and like they were trying to get us to see if he was gonna vibe. And I'm like, bro,

that's Chris, Like that's the homie, Like he already knew us. Yeah, he mixed my first ever song, my very first song ever, so and that's my boy that we've been had songs together and stuff like that when we high school and all kinds of shit. So it was just like chemistry. We did a couple of records and when we got started, he was like, you got some beats because he make

beasts too. So I was on, you don't go to know like no session with no you gotta make beats and ask for it right right right, like I'm gonna use your beats. So I always he was like you got some more beats? I'm like yeah, I got some hard shit, Like I played the blast beat and then we was like, yeah, we're gonna do this one. We just knocked the song down. It was quick, like thirty minutes. I think it's dope that like you like at the moment you have like one of those ones. It's like

an automatic song you have to play for DJing. Scoring is like one of those records, like right now, like you go to the club, no matter what peak hour, you're hearing that record and I feel like, get right with it was like very la record and it was huge here, but like Scoring feels like it's like it's like a moment, you know what I mean saying, like, and it's a record and by the way, it's a record that y'all really like works because it's been out

for a minute. Bro, it's been out for a hot ass minute, pandemic baby, and it's like big, bigger than you know, like right now, it's probably the biggest it's been, you know what I mean, not for real. I mean it's like it never I would I would say I'm blessed. I'm not gonna it's never going backwards, Like nothing that I've been doing since I started doing stuff is going backwards, man,

you know. So I'm just you know, I'm extremely appreciative that it's it's always a forward step, no matter if it's a slow step or are you feeling, no matter if I've standed still. I'm not gonna act like I've

never been like paused. I've definitely been at like some stand steels, but I've never like put a song out and then my next song did horrible, you know, And even when it like when it has, I knew why because I didn't drop ship like win against the win against the label, Like I'm just from the throw this out, and they're like, bro, you're tripping, like why you to do that? But I was being thirsty. I wanted to have music. I thought I knew everything. You find, So

it's like everything is a learning experience to me. So like I never go into the world thinking I know nothing,

always going there willing to learn. So like it don't matter like what's going on, I don't never look at make it seem like I got the most information because you feel me, knowledge makes you more powerful, you know, it makes you the most powerful and the most like you feel me, you're with and all of that shit and it's just like a nigga can know so much if you just shut the fuck up and listen to everything, and everybody else is saying, that's some real shit, Like

on God, you just got to shut the fuck up sometimes, like really, hey, that's some real shit. God if sometimes it's like you always hear like it's the quietest dude in the room, it's the smartest of the most dangerous because they are soaking everything so much. Yeah, there so much, seen so much. They already know what you got going on and how you moving and stuff like that. And I know I'm not quiet. I talk a lot, but I don't talk from a place of like trying to

get you to understand what I'm saying. Like if I am trying to get you to understand what I'm saying, I'm trying to get it so we both know where we're coming from. You know what I mean. Like, I'm not gonna never try to make nobody feel how I feel, you know, but I want you to know how I feel so you can see where I'm coming from. And I want to know how you feel so I can see where you're coming from. It's the why for me, not the what It's always the why you know that's crazy?

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Odd socksoficial dot com keyword bootleg cabat checkout, save twenty percent. I remember talking, you know when me and Head were doing Knights together. I know there was a bunch of labels that are trying to get at you. Some people drop the ball, others didn't, and you ended up with rock Nation. What made like rock Nation? Be like, like, what what's the fit like with like with rock Nation? Because obviously you know Parico was over there and they're not.

They don't have the craziest history when it comes to like breaking new artists. I mean also specifically LA artists. Yeah, I mean with what you're saying that like they don't have the best history. You mean, I'm not saying they have a bad history, you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, obviously they had j Cole and then you know there's a artists that they from LA. They really had an LA artist, right, another La Ars besides pere Eco, Right. I mean, it's just like they wanted me to shout

out to the homie Earl too. Feel me like shout out Earl, that's that's my guy. But it's like talking like everything, I relate everything to women because that's the most experiences I've ever had. You feel me, you can't keep talking to a girl that don't want you. That's gonna happen. Feel like it's cool, like she wanted to go out. You feel me. You could take her on the day and stuff like that, But that don't mean

she like you. You know. If anything, if you lose it, yeah you losing If anything, you cut her off and ignore you feel me. So I mean I just always look at like like even with the recruiting process, like like with football and shit like that, like you gotta go where you're most comfortable. And just with rock Nation, you feel me. I felt like they wanted me just

as much as I wanted them, you feel me. Not to say that I really wanted them, like, oh, I just want to be signing rock Nation, Like that's people want to signed to. Not saying that. It's saying that I knew where I wanted to be in my life, you know, and I knew with this music ship, what what's the next step and what I need? Like everybody don't need to sign to a label. This is facts. Man, It worked for some people, you feel me, But where I was, I was the next step, like you feel me.

I was accepted. It was I was accepting that this was this is the next step. Also, like opportunities like you know, having scoring like be a part of NBA games and I mean, like, but nobody ever, Like I was already signed before that happened, so like I didn't know that was gonna happen. But you feel me, I'm gonna take a chance on the people that's willing to

take a chance on me. That's real. They genuinely gave a fuck about everything that was going on, and then they genuinely give a fuck about everything that I have going on, you know, And I know that also comes with with your progression and uh what you're doing. Like you know, I also know that if I start fucking up that or if you start making some bullshit you feel me, I'm call is not gonna get answered no more. Now. You gotta you gotta. You have to do your part

as much as they gotta do their part. Sometimes people don't realize that when they sign with labels. They're like, people don't fam you still got to do your part at the end of the day. Absolutely, absolutely, this ship is about you at the end of the day. And like respectively, like at the end of the day, Kaitlin, you're a product to the marketplace. Your music is a product and just because like I'm emotionally tied and connected

to all of this ship. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's at the end of the day, consumers have to want to consume your music. There is a business, it's not a fucking club. Life change, Yeah, don't mean that your life change. Like this ship is worked probably like you got to do your part as much as they got to do their part. Like a lot of people I'll be seeing unhappy with their labels. I'm like, yeah, but you're also good. What are you doing? What are you

unhappy with your label? Well, you don't know if you're if you're like it's suicides to everything. You don't know if you're labeled unhappy with you, you know what I mean. So it's just like you gotta do what you gotta do so you can do what you want to do. You know. That's something like me and the Homies about like definitely go by, Like that's definitely quote we go by, Like, you definitely have to do what you gotta do so

you can do what you want to do. Because if you do what you gotta do, you got a room for whatever. Do what you gotta do already, Yeah, I mean, I mean it's it's it's a simple thing you're saying. But it's like, Yo, you hear motherfuckers complain about their job, or like I want this, I want that, or Yo, why can't I go on vacation? It's like yo, because you ain't put you got to obviously put you. There's no excuses for nothing, bro, exactly like, there's no excuse

you look in the fucking mirror. I look at it. Look, man, that's exactly how I look at it. Kiff Man. If you're telling me that I gotta do a B and C, you don't give a fuck what's going in between that. I could complain, I could talk ship and all of that ship, but I gotta do a B and C. I gotta do it because this is what I need to do to get to where I want to be. Clearly, I'm fucking with y'all because y'all know the where I

want to be. You feel me. Every everybody has the same goal, eventually, you feel me in the long world. No matter if their goal is a personal goal, their goal is for you. Cause it doesn't like a lot of niggas be like, man, they don't fuck with me like that. Da da dah. You ain't doing this for me. You doing this for you. In the instrument somebody doing something for their self, they're doing it for you too, because your success is based off of them. Their success

is best off of you. Their success is based off of everything that I'm doing. So you feel me like I'm a cool dude, like I'll be chilling like you feel me. I feel like I'm not no, like I don't be trying to act all extra tough and shit like that. And then I'm a people's person. I don't have a problem with people. I fuck with people. But at the same time, a lot of people get that misking screwed with thinking I'm so friendly. I just you

feel me. I know it be going on like you feel me, and I know that everybody doesn't have to act that type of way with me, So you feel me. I'm just appreciative of everybody doing their best with me, you know what I mean. As long as you're doing the best that thing that you could do for what you're supposed to be doing, we can do it. But you don't got to like niggas be taking it too personal. You don't got to fuck with me to do your job. Good. Got some real shit. I don't gotta fuck with you

to do my job. Good. Let's do what we're supposed to do. Let's get this shit done together. Therefore, when you look at your resume and I'm on your resume for the ship, that really look, it's a good look. And I look at my resume and you on my resume for the ship you did for me, I can't talk bad about you. Do your job, You do what you're supposed to do. We're not here for that, you feel me. That's some real shit, man, some real ship.

With the uh extended version of the project coming out, the deluxe version, what's your favorite out of those new six? They all my babies, man, all of them. Yeah, that's fair. I mean it's gotta be harder. I mean, like it would be like at the end of the day, there's a reason why they made the album, ycause, I'm sure you have like thirty other songs you could have choose. Yeah. No, actually it's been like thirty deluxies. That's yeah, So those

had to be the six that you love. No, I mean like a fuck with dirt heavy, you feel me, I fuck with like like his homies and shit is my homies like said like C three Sparrow and all the niggas like Dooty Low like you feel me. I mean it's good. I mean look Dirk right now was on fire bro. Yeah, but not even on Dick riding shit because lot of niggas be trying to get close to nigga because of what niggas got going on. It ain't even about that. Like I literally like, like you

feel me, I literally fuck with them niggas. Like when we at the studio, I be with the niggas, like we ordered me some food to food. It's good like that, Like I'll funck with them niggas. So like it's cool, like big Zoo, all of them niggas, Like I'll be cool with them. And I'm not saying that I'm best friends with them niggas, but like you was on that show in az that like fake got shot up, but it didn't actually get shot up. Someone just dropped the mic. Yo.

She was lit. That shit looked like a fucking she was crazy. That shit looked like a hot ass mess. People was getting trampled all kinds of shit. That was like a kind of show that was like the first big show in Phoenix, since COVID happened and she was huge. It was like ten thousand people, I know, and there was only supposed to be like seven thousand. They busted the gate down. Yeah, they knocked the gate down, so hello, people were there that didn't pay That ship was, oh

my god, what called? Just come fuck it? You just pull up. You don't need a ticket. This ship is on ticket. Just come this ship. Crazy out here, you're there when like the mic got dropped and everyone started freaking the fuck out standing on the speaker, oh man, and then I put that motherfucker. I was looking at people up under me running into the you know, the like the crossing, the balls that be crossing people running getting knocked down. I'm like, my fucking security guards snatched

me down. Niggas made like a fucking TP on top of me. They really thought somebody was sure. I'm like, bro, get off me. I don't like how y'all man handling me. The night before that in San Diego, they start fighting in the club. You feel me, They snatched me off the stage in the club. I'm like, bro, y'all keep doing me like that. I'm six foot, Like you're not You're not a athlete. Man, right, I'm gonna get down bron be snatchy, but I love him. You feel me.

They doing what they're supposed to do. But it's just like that crazy happening. You know that ship go man nah for sure. Did you ever like you know obviously coming from STSU Marshall Falk Yeah, Kawhi Leonard, Yeah, you ever linked with any of those guys? I mean like Marshall Fulk used to come talk to us and ship like that all the time. So like you feel me, I know who Bro is and uh like Kawhi Kawhi

like quiet, Yeah, he's an interesting guy. He's like you gotta be his friend to be around or yeah, but I didn't see him like Nigga put the may back up like park on the in front of the gym, like ain't no parking lot like he feel to put the may back up in front of the gym. So like you feel me, I ain't seen Kawhi and shit like that. And just see him Bro, like I was still playing football because he older than me, like he graduated when I got there. Got so you feel me

like I you see him coming back. He's originally from the Ie right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like you feel me like a Q and ship like a fuck with AQAQ play basketball up there and he would make music and shipp now to you rap that's my boy though, you feel me. But he knew all of them, so just h me fucking with him. I got to see them sometimes like him and in like Dwayne Polley, like that's want to be no, like good homies and shit like that. And then I feel like when we talked

to Blue Bucks, did they say that they played? Did they did? Because they used to play football, said used to play football with you read football against each other and like that growing up? Yeah, like god, I was finna play with them, but I ended up playing from on the park I played. I was going to play for the demos with them, the niggas play for the demos. I end up playing from on the park. Me and my cousin ended up going over there because we moved

to Comptent. But like, bro, the world's so small, Me and one take played football together that this ship is small, like like small. Why do you think now in LA there's such a high level of camaraderie as to where like the previous era of LA music, I feel like the previous couple eras of LA music, it seemed like there was a lot more division. Obviously, we said we weren't gonna make it like that. Everyone works together, and we said we weren't gonna make it like that. Like

you feel me, everybody has their own personal politics. You can't get into that right that comes automatically with just being from LA. But the respect right now is high for each other because you feel me, people are starting to realize, like you feel me, nobody is going to respect us as a whole. Nless we respect ourselves and you ain't moving together. That's what Atlanta's was doing so well for so long. They gotta respect us as a whole.

We gotta have each other back, and like you feel me, we can't never put us out game banging because that's shit real. You feel me, game banging is really real. Niggas is out here game banging. Like don't think Nigga's not really game banging, because niggas is doing that. But at the same time, like not to I don't want to never make this sound weird because I don't never want to disrespect nobody. But a lot of people would

say that the niggas. That's making music. It's not game banging, and that's not true because the niggas is game banging too. But as a man, first, it comes a point where you have to realize, like it's opportunity out here, you know what I mean. I mean everybody moving to others stronger than everyone being absolutely, but not just even saying, just from a personal standpoint, I don't game bang, so I'm not in all that. I don't have the same

policies as everybody else, right, you feel me. So I could go right here, go right there, go do this, go do that, go to that. I'll be cool, you feel me. But a lot of niggas can't do that. But when it's time to do the music, like niggas having shows and shit, some reason niggas is respecting each other, so they letting everybody. I mean, I always tell everybody. When Archie and Grido did that show on stage together, that was the first versus battle. That was hard as

a motherfucker, and nothing bad happened. Nothing bad happened, but that was just like to show it can happen. That shit was crazy, you feel me, it showing happened. But the city's just live bro like right now, because it's like everybody really know each other and everybody really like I'm really a fan of the homies, Like I'm really if I really like their music, I like what they're doing, and then I want them to do whatever they want

to do. So if it's anything like you feel me, if you having a show, I would not come right, why wouldn't I come here? So I'm not doing shit. I'm not hatinging you because when I have a come to my ship and you feel me, niggas is cool. Like, it's it's harder to hate on a nigga. It's way harder, That's true. It's way harder because you really have to pickpoint, pick apart what you hate because this nigga could be doing something that this nigga that you like is doing

they doing. It's so much easier to show love. It's easy. Yeah, it's easy to be like and you go to sleep at night with just feeling no niggas. That's what I'm saying. Man, you start hating, start, you gotta putting that energy in the Yeah. Fuck like man, everybody running their own race, like my my success is not based off of anybody else's success because I don't have to be here at all. Right, that's real. You feel me? This ship is not like

this is just because it's happening to me. It wasn't supposed to happen to me, like you feel me like I didn't. Like, ain't nothing written that this was gonna happen for me. Nobody is owed anything, bro, whole body, you feel me and I can't. And if you're trying to base your success off somebody else's success, you ain't be happy. Facts that. That's the worst part about the rap game in general is people they you know I

call a pocket watching. It's like motherfuckers is too busy watching what everyone else is doing and then having having that psych themselves out and you don't even be knowing what be going on make It makes you if you pay so much attention to what somebody's doing, this may be doing better than you. It makes you second guess what you're doing. Be wearing fake jewelry, fake clothes, all kinds of shit, and you're trying to keep up with a nigga you don't know what he got going on.

Some niggas don't even wrap. Some niggas are really street niggas and just got money. Some niggas got good jobs. Some niggas being the navy and they getting a check every month. They gonna get they check every month. Some niggas is disable getting what is what's that ship called your disability ability? That's that's all niggas is getting money from everywhere. So why are you worried about this? Nigga? You don't got nothing to do. You need to worry about.

You gets you some money, like you feel mes be worried about the wrong ship. That's why I think it's dopeest because I think that that was maybe like a symptom of like also like you know, it's it seems like with like guys like yourself. When take Jay Blast being routie, everyone you know, they're just doing everyone's doing them and and it's like it's with positivity, it's with camaraderie, and like nobody's like, ah, well not man, his shit ain't this shit? Man? Blast this man, Blast ain't ship.

You know what I'm saying. My shit harder than Blast ship, you know what I'm saying. But I'm just saying her as an example because because Blast would be the guy everyone could look at it and be like, God, this motherfucker's on fire some type of way. But why would you, like, why would you hit on that niggas give him weird doing his thing? That doesn't mean that you're not going to get there, nah, that just means like, yo, be

happy doing his thing. Absolutely, like people be getting too caught up in what everybody else says, because it don't really be. It's not. It's there the people around you. Gotta do this. You gotta do that, man, we gotta do it work for us. Yep, we just do what work. Stick to the game plan, bro, put your put your head down, and get to it. I look at it like this. I'll give a million dollars right now. You feel me. I'm gonna give a million dollars right now.

You got a million dollars. Now you're a millionaire. Now what now? What exactly? So you're gonna keep doing everything that you've been doing, right, You're gonna go live your life. Also, I mean with the Blast conversation, the guy's been making music for years plus years since like eighth seven, we're

talking to Jason Cash about it. He said that he made his first song with Blast and oh eight Yeah, like we've been making songs for years, but not just even not even talking about blasts, no, no no, but just in general what you were saying, like yeah, like okay, cool, here, here's a million dollars. Now what you're gonna do? Yeah? No, but not even that, it's just saying like, because I hear the conversation, there's that is a conversation. They can't

act like it's not a conversation. But bro going up, he's doing his thing. Who is to say that next year I won't have a year? Like I mean, you're having a year. Yeah, But I'm just saying, like you feel me from what the conversations be like, you know what people politics is and how people like view it. Like, all right, he having his time, he going up. I'm proud of my God, you feel me. I'm happy for him. Who is to say that I won't have a time even if it's next year, it's next month, next week,

ten years from now. Well, also, I can still get to wherever I need to be. You know, every everyone wins. When someone wins like that, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, man, like it's big for the city because now everybody's looking at the city exactly, Bro, you feel me like everyone's gonna win, Like well, like I mean think that, like you know, shit Kendrick Lamar, you know what I mean what happened with like you know Kendrick then the whole label was just on QE. We got to see q

in the as the superstar. He is getting Grammys exactly. You know what I'm saying, Like niggas getting Grammys. This shit real here. Yeah. So I just think I think LA music is in a good position man, And obviously you know you're in the forefront of that. And you know the project is how many? First of all, how many songs you're sitting on like like a lot? I guess a number fifty more? George, how mean the songs we sitting on? One hundred and seventy five to two

hundred songs? He just said, that's like ready to go. That's Tupac shit. That's ready to go. We got like a whole another hard drive for the shit. That's Wayne shit. Man.

You do you when you go in and like record is your writing process like like just coming up with the melody first and punching on the lyrics or you like actually right, like no, I just whatever I hear, just go in the booth and just lay it down and then like yesterday, it was the first time I ever tried to like hear all the beats before I record it, and I was like the worst process I've ever did, end of my life. Like like, Yo, we're in the car, play some beats. No, now you're in

the studio, throw some shit on. I'm gonna in the boot, put the headphones on, figure it out. Like literally, whatever beat they play first, whatever beats you play first in the studio, I'm finna go do it right now. Oh that's fucking crazy. It on unless I just don't like it, unless trash, like not me, like not even be trash. It's just not be not for you. Yeah, you feel me. With the first one, I hear like I look around the room, i'm'a looking around the room. I'm look at George,

I'm gonna look at the home. I'm gona look at you, I'm gonna look at everybody. They're gonna be like they start doing this alright, loaded up fire, let's go. Let me roll up real quickly, trying to get right. Well, look, Friday's out, go go support, go stream that ship running even sixteen Man to for Real to the Deluxe Roland Loud. You're gonna be New York or Miami in LA right, Miami l A it slick. Go get them tickets for the tour coming to a city near you too, for Real boom you know