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#74 - Peter Rosenberg

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Interview #74 on The Bootleg Kev Podcast we have Peter Rosenberg stopping by and we talk about his new album and also we get his thoughts on Israel. We also bring up his radio career and how it is doing 2 radio shows for New York's  HOT97.

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Yes, the Boulet Camp Show, Listen, Boulet Camp Podcast, et cetera. You get it, you get it, damn it Dope interview today, Man with the Homie Rosenberg. Peter Rosenberg from Hot ninety seven. This is someone who's been a friend of mine, a mentor of mine for a very long time. He does the mornings in New York. He also is a commentator for the WWE. He also does afternoons at ESPN Radio in New York City. One of the hardest working dudes in the game. Polarizing guy. People love him, people hate him.

I happen to be a part of the earlier I loved Rosenberg. Man, good dude, man. So we're in the chopping up with Peter Rosenberg. Yo. Shout out to our sponsors at odd Socks, though, Man, can we give them some love please? Odd Socks go to odd socksofficial dot com and the most comfortable socks in the world. First of all, they got these odd socks basics. They're just the plain colored socks and they are amazing. I actually literally have a pair of them on as we speak.

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this interview though with Peter Rosenberg. It's the Bootleg cap podcast. Yo, it's the bluele Cat Podcast. Man. Listen, we got a special guest in here, someone who I've looked up to for a very long time, a legend in the game, Peter Rosenberg. Ladies and gentlemen, what's up? Fighting makes me feel both both good and old. Yeah. I mean, you know it's crazy because I remember I was like souper

were early on on one app. This is the way before you guys got the morning show, and uh, I think you guys had I forget what forum you had like where listeners could hit you all up. I don't remember if I hit you up on like instant Messenger or oh really you reach out? Yeah, dude, I remember that the one of the episodes. I remember, like way back was like around the time Sean Taylor died, you

guys talking about that, Like, yeah, man, I was. I was, you know, like like when you guys, I missed the days when and then I'm glad that these days have kind of come back with wanapp before it was really about interviews, when it was just you guys just shooting the shit about your favorite fast food places across the country, like but the collect but yeah, but like you know, uh yeah, man, you're a legend bro, so you know it's it's it's good to see you and you uh

you got a new album coming out, which I feel like is way overdue. I know. It's like it's funny for the people who like don't really understand how the music business works, they're like, you know, like on my sports side of things, it's like you're putting out an album, but what And then for the people in the business who get it, they're like, oh about time you put out a damned album, man, what are you doing? Yeah.

I feel like this is something that first of all, I can only imagine how annoying and tedious it is to deal with different teams of management and artists, and you know, it's it's it's it's I know it's a process. It had to have been a process. When did you kind of originally start putting everything together where you were like, okay, this is an album situation it well, because it had been it had come through like different ideas and and

and moments and iterations. This final iteration of what it turned out to be was really like end of the summer that I started thinking about it, and in an early fall that I started sort of digging into it. But now that you mentioned that, yo, I didn't. I didn't deal with any teams on this whole thing. Oh that's why you want. Everyone on this project is indy. I don't have any there's no label clearing, like it's a it's a great first album for me, because I

should I continue to go forward and do more. I'm sure you're right, I'll have to deal with more fuckery, right And in this case, it was like you might deal with someone's right hand man, right right, right, right right right, but you're not. You're not. I'm not dealing with labels like things were just they were just done. I haven't even finished having all the business conversations yet like I got to set up everyone splits and do

all the work. Everyone's just like, yeah, here's a verse, let's go yeah, hey, and well, you know, for people to don't realize, like it's a homage to your to show you that that you came to Hot ninety seven to originally do Real Late. Yeah, that's that's the whole album theme was just I was I was stressing about what to call it. I had like half of it done, and I reached out to my boy Disco Vietnam, who

produced three songs on the project. He did the Flee Lord Rock Marcy, he did the ghost Face Crime Apple Jim Jones, and he did the second Generation Woo. And I had set him a tech and I'm like, ah, I really want to name because it's hard for me to like get in the frame of mind to finishing this whole thing and taking next steps when I don't know what the project is called, right, And in like thirty seconds, he was just like, why don't you call

it Real Late? I mean, that's kind of the show you've been doing this whole time, which kind of is the isn't that what this whole album really is? Right? And then I was like, oh shit, and then I realized I'm like, oh and for the people who most people who will hear this album don't even know what that radio show is, it will have a totally different meaning for them, Like and then they'll see the album cover and they'll see Late Night and they'll maybe start

putting together images. But for them it's not based on radio. But for the people who have it has a different meaning. Run through all the like give me all the all the features, like who all you got on the album? I mean you dropped three singles, you know, you've gotten some crazy verses so far, But who all is on the album? The intro is vel the wonder La Zone the It's produced by DJ Skiz. The next joint styles p Ransom and Dezza. Okay, yeah, they came through Super Hard, Westside,

gun Stain, Marcus Smart, Lee Lord and Stove God Cooks. Halways. This is like a fun challenge for myself, by the way, Halways with Flee, Lord and Rock Marcy mind over matter, which is I'm probably the most pleasantly surprised with how many people I've given the record to mention this song, because most of the people have told me they don't even know the artists are, but they love the song.

That's Jane Nis and Ito mind Over Matter, Next Chamber, Metha Man, Ray Kwan, Willie the Kid, Mayhem Lorenz has an interlude on there Midnight Sunday Rashid Chappelle, produced by Buck Wild Buck. By the way, Buck did the Mayhem interlude as well. Nice the Oh, the ghost Face, Snake Eyes, ghost Face, Crime Apple and and and Jim Jones, which is fucking bananas in my opinion. Ghost ghosts will have you, ghost might my ghost might have you in the street.

You might go want to do something you shouldn't do when you hear ghost face. My favorite type of ghost face. You know it's it's it's it's reach your money and the reach your hands in the register and take out all the money ghost face. It's it's it's fucking hard. Uh. Wu Generation by second generation Wu, I want it all Fly Anakin and Nicholas f And I haven't heard that. I haven't heard Nicholas f in a while. I haven't heard that name in a minute. Yeah, he's Nicholas f Is. Actually,

can you have a record with Drake? Yeah? He wrote, No, No, you're not tripping. He wrote that record. He wrote the record with Drake and Wayne. He might he's on a record I believe. Also, yeah, I think they have a record together that was like on like the blogs back in the day. Yeah, but he also wrote a Drake record back at that time too. And yeah, dear homeboy Sam Man, which is that your guy? You know? And he's a he's an alien, Yeah, you know, he's an alien.

He really if you listen to that verse, he like takes you on a story. It's like it's like going inside someone's brain and just listening to them think on a record like He's it's a he's awesome. You know. We always get these albums uh that that that are compilations, right, and and you know, I think cal it is someone who's done a good a good job of putting albums together and then also at times maybe maybe not so

good of a job. You know. I mean, obviously it's everything subjective, but how hard is it to do something like this and make it cohesive? In this case, it was very easy because as I picked artists who made sense, so you're not trying to get one artist to agree to make the record and then another artist on a different song. Who's gonna not gonna pick anything similar to

what this other artist was feeling. So as a result, so really like I was able to sort of use my ear and have that work for all the artists that were selected. If I had tried to get too crazy, ultimately I would have had like this, this, this disconnect. The least connected record is probably the Homeboy sam Man record, which is why I put it last. That's just stylistically, it's just he's he's in his own back altogether. It's not like I don't think you hear it and you go,

why is this year? But I think it's enough. You know. My man Quartermain was to a rough of the album and he was like, I don't know if this fits. And while I disagreed on some level and I wanted on the album, I took his advice that it didn't fit in the middle of the project and I ended up moving in along and now I like where it is. But to me, Kevi, it's like, hopefully you know what ends up coming across in this project is there are people out there like, yeah, I can't fucking stand Rosenberg.

That guy sucks fuck him, Culture Vulture, piece of shit. But you know, what. He put a nice album together. He's got a good ear. This ship is cohesive, like because that's that's honestly, that's my biggest source of pride in it is that I just think it's like, this does not sound like a soundtrack where you're like, why is that song there? I think it you would believe these artists were in some level of communication or right

right right, right right. Well, that's that's I think that's the hardest part about doing the project like this is like usually these types of projects, we love songs off of them, but to like just press playing right out like you know, there's there's like back in the day, there was like the sound bombings, and there was there. There has been great examples of that, but I feel like lately we haven't really had a shining example, especially when it comes to you know, the Boom bab shit.

I kind of look at every Static selected album is a cohesive piece, you know, but he's the producer on them, and he doesn't He's probably the best at putting albums together that flow. And you know, again Static is an artist. He actually is making the music. But as far as just all which is both more impressive and also so a, he's much more talented than me, of course, but also he's got an easier task in terms of forming it because it's his music. Yeah, he's making the beats, so

he knows. Yeah exactly. Yeah, yeah, you mentioned. I was gonna say you mentioned the culture vulture thing. Do you did you see the meme that they posted on Twitter? And it was me and you and Adam twenty two and Vlad. Someone posted like a meme of all four of our photos and they said this is hip hop media. Yeah yoo. That was fucking hilarious. They got the worst photo of me ever. It was. I was like, oh, God's worst. Not only was not only were was it the idea of the photo, but then a bad picture

on top of it. My main issue that I took with that was just like, I know there are people who don't like me. I know I've said things that people hold on to and rather thinking of something that you may have done that they liked, or ten times when that you did something they may have liked, they

remember that thing that made them not like you. But like it was just such a lazy assessment, yo, Like that was just of course I'll take you and I being thrown in a category together because they're actually legitimate similarities you could point to right right, right, right right, And I don't know what their relationships are, so I don't want to put you in a bad spot, but where you'd get to comparing us to Adam twenty two and Vlad and I get Adam twenty two and Vlad

going together because they get people to say some semi incriminating, crazy shit like I get the whole op thing, but you and I like two kind of DJ nerds right right well, respectful of the music and culture. I just don't That was such to me. That was a lazy but very funny. It was funny. I just loved everyone like was like defending it. I feel like everyone was defending you and me on Twitter. It was so funny. I was like, we got we got some defense for sure,

ye not these guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was pretty funny. It was pretty funny. Man. How's uh? You know it's crazy because for people who don't know, man, you legitimately do two full radio shows every day, which is extremely impressive, and it also has to be very taxing for your bandwidth, Like how how how hard is that? Man? Because I know, just doing a four hour morning show alone's got to

you know, at the end of it. You know, for people think that we just sit in front of a mic, but it is, you know, we we have to be mentally in the game, you know what I mean. And you got to do that twice. How do you deal with that? Man? Well, it is tiring and the bandwidth thing is hard, and by the end of it you can feel very finished. But I don't know. I try to go to bed relatively early. I try to be mostly healthy, right, you know, I'm not a big drugs

or alcohol guy. But although definitely during COVID it definitely picked my my alcohol on the weekend definitely picked up, of course, But you know, I'm very stone sober during the week. I try to eat my salads all week long. I try to catch naps when I can. You know, I have ups and downs when it comes to the gym, but you know, and listen. I also it's one of the times, like I'm I'm I'm only able to do both shows because I'm not the first mic on either show. True,

so I can sit back at times. And it's also a good way to learn when to shut up, you know, because that was a big part of radio that I didn't understand for a really long time. I sit back now way more than I used to. So like you might hear a segment on with Ebro and Laura in the morning where I don't say that much. Now I sort of learned to have the spots where like, they don't need my voice here, It's not gonna what am

I adding? So like, you know, Ebro and Laura are talking about something that that they're both making an impact on it. It's it's really effective. Am I going to add to this? Or in this moment if I if I add, is it at best not going to add that much or at worst it's going to be like, shut up, white boy, we didn't even need your take on this. That's fair. So there and there's and obviously there are conversations where that is true too. And you know, I already had the time where I was like everyone

needs to hear my voice. Yes, I mean you have. You're you're a very opinionated guy. Man, I'm an opinionated guy, and I am the first person to try to teach white people sometimes guess what, shut up? People don't need to hear your voice fuck up. It's not every day. Sometimes I really want it. I'm like, no, no, I

can contribute. This is somewhat useful, trust me, you know, Like we have certain conversations, I'm like, well, you know, when we had our COVID conversations and vaccine conversations, I was quick away and be like, listen, I'm here to tell people of the world if this is a plot to hurt black people, which is a reasonable thought to have, right, if that is true. I just want you to know all the white people I know are taking it right. We're all we're all in it together. Yeah, on this one.

So there, my voice was valuable. I can tell you my experience. But in some situations, you know, and sometimes as an ally my voice is useful. Sometimes it's not, you know. And then on the case show, yo, soon as we get in the subject and I'm like, I just don't have a ton to contribute here, and I don't want to be the person who's talking to how my voice heard. I already have a lot of time

to talk right right right, you know. And then sometimes they tell me, oh, we need to hear from you more, you know, like, hey, we know you're not that into baseball. But some of our audience, you're the reason they're here, and if you don't talk about baseball, they're really not going to give a fuck, right, So finding that balance can be can be hard, but shit, sometimes you just need to sit back and rest and well and then you're also you also had a brief stint as the

twenty four to seven champion. You know what I mean. I mean, I mean you call it brief, you know, brief, classic media hate, you know, just tearing me down. You know, you are like DJ Vlado. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll take it shout out to Flad No. But it's crazy because you know, I know how big of a fan you are of wrestling and how inter I mean, I give you credit over everyone, over any rapper, over everyone, as far as bringing wrestling into the hip

hop space period, I was first. No, you were first. First. I promise you were first, and promise I was first. One hundred I love and you know, Willa is the real deal. This is the real deal. Gun is the real deal. Conway one hundred people. I don't want a lot of people love hip hop, but no, you were first. I may have not been, but I was definitely the first. Yeah, and winning that title was it's gotta be. That's gotta be,

Like that might be. I can only imagine out of everything you've done in your career, that has to be like top two or three things like the fact you held a title in the WWE that is insane to say out loud. I know, no, and it's silly. It's it's like that that for people who don't know, like that title, the twenty four to seven titles, it's sort

of a comedic. It's funny. Yeah, like Gronk Gronk had in however, yeah, like ROBN cows had it and they've had you know, silly other broad casters get it for two seconds, but like it does have a lineage though it is documented, like it is written down. People know who's had it. And And the craziest part about that was that I thought it was gonna maybe be a thing. I'd get an opportunity at the pay per view beforehand, and then things were crazy and they're talk gonna happen.

I was like, okay, cool, and I'm like I don't think this is ever gonna happen, to be honest with you, so whatever, and then I get to the Royal Rumble kickoff show and we're talking and they're like, hey, so we're not gonna have time to get it on the kickoff show. In my mind, I'm kind of relieved because I'm like, I don't really know how'm gonna do this. So I was like, Okay, cool, cool, cool, But I

think it's gonna happen during the main show. And I was like, during the Royal Rumble pay per view, Right, this is the pin that even if you're like a lapsed fan, like like you watch it, you tune in because yeah, because you like to watch the Royal Rumble. Yeah, watch, like if you're even like you used to be a wrestling fan or like now you're all indie, but you like to on WW everyone watches the Rumble if you have any ounce of love for wrestling in your blood.

So I was like, oh okay, and I really came to have a new appreciation. I thought. I thought, being as big a fan as I am and I know you're a big fan like that, I already had all the respect and appreciation that one could possibly have for these people, And in having to do this basic thing, the amount thought and practice, like I met that day practicing. By the way, I still fucked it up. I did the job, but like I did not do it the way I was exactly supposed to on either account of

any of the things I did. And to think about that they do it live all the time, like you have one shot. Yeah, you got an idea. If you fuck it up once, it's that's that's your only time you get. Yeah. And and by the way, Our Truth made very to me. He was like, if you botch the pin, I'm kicking out. Wow. I've never actually said that I through before. There you gotta give an exclusive if I He was like, if you botch this, I'm kicking out. You ain't getting the belt. You're not getting it.

You're just gonna And I was like all right. I was like, well listen, I still tried, right, right, right right. I don't want to disrespect the craft. If I can't pull it off, that's what you should do, right. Dude is so strong, Our Truth could have done anything he wanted. Of course, he could have kicked out live back to the desk. I mean, like he is, he's an athlete. You know, you know how old our Truth is. I assume he's old as shit because he has been around

Fever forever. But he just he just looks great. He's got to be fifty. He's like fifty years old. Oh, yes, say he's gotta be fifty. He's got to be fifty. Yeah. When he wraps, he when he wraps, he sounds like he's fifty. So I would assume fifty. You're an asshole, assle. He looks dirty, but he raps, he's Yay, he's fifty

for sure. Yo. So you know, the one thing I wanted to I wanted to get your take on something that's obviously extremely controversial and polarizing at the moment, because I've spoken with people from both sides, and I wanted to kind of, you know, get your understanding of, uh, what's going on, you know, in Israel and Palestine, because you know, I've talked to artists like Belly and you know, certain people who are extremely passionate, you know, on the

Palestinian side, and I've talked to some of my Jewish friends, and you know, I always stay away from subjects that I don't fully understand. And I think I might have saw you weigh in on what Andrew Yank said. Maybe I'm wrong on that. Yeah. So you know, for people who don't know you're Jewish, what are your I guess kind of what's your consensus or your thoughts about about everything that's going on? Man, So this is an incredibly uh complicated subject, and I'm not I'm not saying that

just like in a light generic way. You know. It's a subject that's sort of like you know, dominated conversation in my house, my whole life, you know, and like I I went to Israel for the first time when I was four years old. Israel is super important to my family and to all Jews. However, uh, you know, decency and and and and empathy and critical thinking can can allow us to have a lot of love for

a place and still be critical. I Am not going to oversimplify the entire thing, because the truth is Palestinians have been marginalized. They've been in many situations just like garbage, like just not treated in a in a humane way, and it's it's sickening and upsetting and simultaneously, you know, Israel, Israel's existence is important to the Jewish people, and there's some people who don't agree with that inherently. They do not believe Israel should should exist that that is a

real faction of people that exists. Unfortunately Hamas is in that category. Right. So you have these people who have been caught in a terrible position, the Palestinian people, and we had opportunities at peace in the past with Robbin and Arafat which were destroyed. And you know, now you have a really complex circumstance. But the bottom line is this.

I hold the Israeli government to a high standard because that's number one, because of the the the money, the power, the organization, the US backing, and also because I'm Jewish and and I believe in a Jewish state. So I hold in my sense, my people, if you will, to a standard. I'm not some person who believes you just wave the flag of your country blindly or whoever willy nilly like. I know this sounds silly and crude, but I always go back to sports, and I know you're

a sports fan, Cami. So I love the Washington football team so much. I hate the owner. I publicly tell everyone I hate the owner. I want him to sell the team. I don't want it to have anything to do with the team. I first suggested and demanded the name be changed like thirteen years ago or something on camera. That was the first time publicly I still love the team. I still rooted for the team while literally not wanting

them to even have their name. Sort of look at the way we deal with our countries of origin the same way. Just because you love Israel and see it's existence as important does not mean you have to believe in everything they do. And and also just because you're a Palestinian does not mean that you do or should ride with hamas right. So it's a it's a it's

a really bad situation. I think that Netsan Yahoo has been generally terrible and generally I've some of my Jewish friends have compared him to like if Trump won over there, like he's extremely right wing, extremely He's only got right wing over the years, right because became a winning thing because we're seeing this whole like real real white nationalism all across the world, and he's written with going further

right as the years have gone on. So you know, how could if I if I felt the way I felt about Trump, which was that he was an absolute nightmare and the worst, and guess what, you can still love America, by the way, and still feel that way, Yes, exactly right. And now I understand it's complicated for Jews though, right because when we start hearing Israel get criticized, the history of the Jewish people isn't the same history as a court of America one hundred percent. Yeah, America's like

America's like the white people of countries. Right, it's going to be all right, Yeah. I think that the thing that's that's that's hard is like, obviously, what I've noticed is anyone who has spoke out against the actions of the Israeli government, it seems as if they get labeled right away as being an anti Semitic person. Well, the thing is you look at each individual's person separately. That's fair.

But I mean I've seen I've seen, like I think Dua Lipa they're trying to call her, you know, people who have just made statements that's saying, you know, essentially, hey, what's going on is wrong. It seems like that there's there's like a narrative that goes right away on Twitter or you know that these people are quote unquote anti Semitic. And I think that everyone can be you know, critical of you know, like you said, you could be critical of a country or government's actions and still be with

the Jewish people, you know what I mean? And you know, so I just think that. I just think it's important. I just think it's important to people to say that, like, because let me explain. Let me explain the other start, even though I a lot of Jews hate me, because I'm so, I care deeply about the well being of Palestinians. And oh and by the way, I have someone who I know in the music industry. I'll tell you off

the camera. I said, yeah, I was like, I don't think I think Rosenberg system to Andrew Gang, they were like, Rosenberg is a self hating Jew, and I was like, Jesus Christ, like that's not true. But oh right, I'll tell you. You might know the person. I'll tell you who it is later, but not on camera. So exactly, I get self hating Jew because I care about the well being of Palestinians. But on the flip side of that coin, because this is what this is what being

a measured, thoughtful person involved. Right as a Jew, when you see a lot of people just putting up free Palestine, and even though you agree with that sentiment, if you know the person who posted that doesn't know shit about the subject. It is uncomfortable, so it's hard to explain. And then and then if you add even more to that that you've also seen that person say something else that seems a little you might start to be like, well, do you really care about Palestine? And do you hate Jews?

Because let's not get a twist to people hate Jews out here, so anti Semiticism is real. We're seeing in the street, we see it in real look. So it's a very uncomfortable thing to be honest, especially being someone who thinks the Israeli government is wrong, who wants there to be a peaceful solution. And I have Jews who come after me and say I'm a self hater, and then I have people on the other side who say I'm a Zionist monster. It doesn't care. And the truth

is I deeply care about both. That's how I was raised. You know that, that is what my my family evolved. My dad used to be militant pro Israel, militant in a time when it sends to be such. Things have evolved and now the state of Israel's in a different place. So you know, it's super uncomfortable but if you can't be someone who's able to acknowledge that the Israeli government is fucked up and that Harmas is fucked up. If you're not able to acknowledge those things as possible, I

don't think we can have a reasonable conversation. That's fair, man. Well, yeah, I just wanted to get your take because, like I said, I know you're a very measured dude, and uh, you know, I think that it's important that, like you said, I think the way you just explained it is how everyone should. That's why I having rush to say anything on it, because I'm like, look, you know what, I don't fully understand the entire history of what's going on, so, you know,

but not enough people will to admit that. They just want to jump in on the conversation. And I get it. You want to stand next to, you know, people that's in a really bad shape and being maligned. I understand that. But you should do the research also, and you should understand why Jews care about Israel in the first place. Right, So even if the government's fucked up and wrong you do, you should understand why you feel it's so important to

have Israel in existence. You know, and by the way, just to say the people that the self hate thing, it's like, Yo, my name is Rosenberg, and I am a public personality who has always openly talked about being Jewish, always proudly, always. Hey, the whole entire tagline of the morning show was a Puerto Rican and a Jew walking to a radio station, exactly always labeled Jewish ju ju juju ju, And I'm proud of it for sure. Anybody who would ever fix their lips to say I'm self hating, like,

it's so absurd. When I'm a public front facing front lines out there, I get called I have dealt with anti Semitism regularly since the internet has even been a thing. Yes, So it's so frustrating when you hear that because it's like, well, so my opinion is different on Israel. And by the way, have you even been to Israel? Right? Right? That's interested

with my dad. So my dad had these takes on Israel and these thoughts, and like he's arguing with people who Israel so important to them, but they've never been My dad's been like forty fifty times. That's really where he spent time. And he has to argue with people who love Israel in theory, and he's like, no, no no, I love the actual place like I love the place. Listen, we got about four minutes left before you got to

hop on the air. I wanted to ask you this because I've evolved over the years when it comes to I like to call it radio gang banging. You know what I'm saying. I used to be one of these guys who would, uh, whatever radio station I was on, it was fuck the other station, fuck the other DJs.

It was yeah, exactly, And obviously, Hot and Power in New York is the quintessential radio beef always, even when I feel like it's calming down this past week or so with the the funk flex bringing up the old, but it's I bring it up because I'm really close with Charlemagne. I'm really close with you. Charlemagne is somebody who's done so much for my career as far as Yeah, he's a lot for me personally. And both of you

guys are amazing people. I know both of you guys, but what like y'all just don't fuck with each other, like what I understand that, Like, you know, to help me understand, will there ever be a conversation between you two or or you know, because I think at the end of the day, we've definitely had conversations. We've definitely

had personal, in person, real life conversations. I would go as far as saying we even at a period where we were like cordial because we ran into each other a bunch of times without speaking on the greater Charlemagne issues, right, and the allegations and the things that Kwame Brown's been talking about. Although I sometimes cannot understand how good he's been a navigating those things. It's it's almost mind blowing. You do almost believe an Illuminati, but removing that I

actually have tried on multiple occasions. I know this sounds crazy, like I really did reach out on multiple occasions for causes bigger than us, for us to come together, and he shpited on me. So at that point I no longer wish it will I definitely did at some point. I've went through a lot of stuff in my life over the last couple of years. I no longer spend

time thinking about him in that way. But I will tell you pre twenty sixteen election, I reached out about us getting together getting together for voting stuff because I thought it would make a big impact to see us all come together and no interest. You know. Ebro ran into him at a Colin Kaepernick thing. Ebro was like, let's take a picture together. This is for CAP's cause he wouldn't do it, you know, And then he'll turn around and flip the story later. But that's the reality,

you know. Yeah, I don't spend time thinking about him in a negative way anymore. With regards to me personally, I don't. I don't. I don't know him. I think there's a lot of shit that I disagree you with, you know, fundamentally. I was watching an episode of Sam Jay's news show. She was talking to this black conservative about why they're Republicans and the two things they mentioned. They were like, well, I don't want to candidate who says,

if you're not voting for me, you're not black. And I don't want a candidate who's like if I need to have hot sauce in my bag. I was like, damn. Both those things came from breakfast club interviews. Both reasons that you hate the Democrats came from breakfast club interviews. What the fuck are y'all doing? Yeah, but that's not their fault that those things were said, Oh, it's never their fault, it's never to be. You can't put that

on that way. It just ends up that way that Kamala Harris ended up looking bad for the twupot gap, and it just was coincidence that Biden got out of swords and then he said something dumb and Hillary Clinton might in fact be from Arkansas and keep sauce in her back. But I'm just saying those things all happen. Well, that means that I can't help a cut a promo because I'm in wrestling. But you're right. The truth is I don't have any ill will. It used to be

close with Angela. We're not anymore. Nothing but love for ends. I don't. I don't. I don't wish ill will on anyone. I really don't. Well, look, you gotta you gotta skate off and do a radio show, sir. Uh. We could, we could have done a few hours. But we'll wait for you when you come to La. We'll do it. We'll do it big. Yeah, you know, we'll have beverages, we'll do the whole thing. Right. All right, brother, it sounds good man. Have a good day, and thank you

for your time. The album is out next Friday, right, my guy, It sure is June fourth, real late. Thank you, keV yes, sir,

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