#7 - Philthy Rich

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juggernaut from the Bay Area. He has put out I mean, in the interview he told us he's put out over one hundred projects, which is crazy to think, right, but you know the guy. You know, whether or not you're a fan of his music. I think this podcast is dope, great conversation, probably the best Filthy Rich interview that's ever been recorded, because I've interviewed Filthy before in the past

that it was less the Desira boom. So he was super engaged during this interview, talked a lot about his independent hustle, and I just think it was a great conversation, man, So shout out to Filthy Rich's new album is out. Like I said, even if you're not a fan of

his music, this is a dope conversation. Nonetheless, we're gonna be doing another podcast on Wednesday that's not going to be interview based, so that's dropping Wednesday, And like I said, tons of good stuff in the worst for the bootleg kV podcast, big, big, big thank you to everyone who's been listening, everyone who's been tagging me on Twitter, tagging me on Instagram. Got a ton of love from the Chappelle Lacy episode. Shout out to Chappelle. Gonna try to

like work him in as like a regular guest. Low Key. Also getting a lot of love from the Benny the Butcher interview from last week. Shout out to Benny the whole, Griselda, and Yeah, super excited for the future of the podcast. And I just want to really really say I appreciate everybody who listens to shit means a lot. We're gonna keep it going. We ain't slowing down. And let's get into the Filthy Rich Interview podcast officially COVID Free. Y'all

caught that coronavirus. Filthy Rich? You did? Yeah, I'm like, you know what happened? No? No, you good? I'm good. I got two negative tests. I respect it, man, But you know what happened. Bro. Remember when you was out in Asy and I was out Inzy and we was texting each other. I was out there, you know, deep and some shit. You know what I'm saying, d jye And oh yeah, I was doing it. So I was running up a bag. No exactly. Well, yeah, everybody out there got that ship was running up many salute to

Arizona man. But yeah, we got Filthy Rich in the building. You got a new album out? How many albums is this for you? Officially? Oh shit, I don't know. You don't know how? Like? What what number album this is? I mean we're past like ten at least? What are we like fifteen? Twenty dropped twelve in a year? Oh Jesus, so are we are we north of past one? Hundred. You're past one hundred albums, one hundred projects, one hundred

projects for sure. Are all those on the DSPs or just some of those like in like on DAP piff or like are they all on Spotify? That's crazy. By the way, shout out to Brian Samson for being loud of shit in the background. Yeah, I've been pasted on un that's crazy. When do you remember the year that you put your first project out? My first project that went like online and everything was on two thousand and eight. Damn twelve years. You don't have to wear the mask.

I don't have the runa bro. I took two tests. I took two. If I get him, I leave here. I got double negative. I'm gonna have Empire invoice you. All right? All right? Speaking of Empire, So I listen to the album Man Dope Body of Work. Do you feel like this is like a like the coronavirus everything has been going on. I feel like you. It feels like you took a lot of time on this project, Like, uh, it felt real personal too. It is because of the title, like it's kind of like the sequel to Fake Love

and then No Real Hate. But I feel like the previous project, Hometown hero before that was like that also, like I feel like you like like vulnerable on this album. I feel like on Hometown Heroes like that too. I'm just growing, you know. You know, we're growing every day and going through different thing. So I mean me as an artist, I've been just like giving you me like

what I'm going through, how I'm feeling. So it just that and then another thing too, you know, we grow as artists every day as we gain new fan base every day too, so maybe more people might be more be tuning in more lately and just probably just missed out on the past stuff. I think it's dope that independently, what you've built over the last twelve years, it's very impressive. I'm sure that there's opportunities for you to, you know, go to major label out plenty of times I'm curious

what they want. They want everything, of course they do. I had a few interviews whatever, and they was like they wanted whole catalog and merge touring and all that, we want to cut it all everything, And I'm like, well, I didn't know y'all in two thousand and eight, right right right right far from here on up right even forward. Yeah, like we I can't do that. I can't take down what I already built up and then give it to you. And then just so happened, I didn't do it, and

then Corona hit. I would have been asked out. So that was something that was recently them. I mean, it made a few times, but yet the last one was right before. Can you tell us who it was with rock Nation? So rock Nation was was was trying to do business with Filthy Rich and they, Yeah, I had I had a mean sat down out here, and that was something that it looked like it would have been like more of a three sixty situation like they were they were gonna want a piece of everything you had

going on, including your old catalog everything. Yeah, see that that doesn't make sense, like you said, from here forward. Yeah, from me having an independent mindset, like I'm seeing money off digital, you know, and royalties and sound and change and ass cap and YouTube or whatever. So it's like, okay,

I gotta give y'all all of this. I don't even know y'all, Like I don't know what you're about to do for me or not gonna do for me, you know what I'm saying so I'm making a chance as in believing in y'all and hoping that y'all are going to do something. If y'all don't, then I'm just out of paid y'all already. Yeah, and then you're like you're you're left with less than you had before. Who Now, obviously you know everyone associates Rock Nation would whole like,

who was it that initially worked? Like? It was it like do you know if like jay Z was aware of like your what you got going on? Or because you know they have their own an rs and their own people, and it was it was the rock Nation management. It wasn't the label side got you, but they was willing to bring me to a label and it was I mean it it's no like bad Blood or anything, of course not. No. I mean, look, people, you should

always take every meeting. I take that to everybody. But his name is Daniel actually the Lion spaper dad, Oh that's what's up? Yeah, man, that's crazy because Daniel though even just believing in me, want to sit down talk to me, like he came to my neighborhood, like he came to I think at least party album least party or I had going on. He tapped in. He really

came to the hood. THEAP was really trying to Yeah, and I had a video shoot out here and Inglewood he came through, so he really was rocking with me though, and I just talked. I just talked to him to the Actually that's so. But I want to talk about your like, like, because a lot of people who are watching this might not be necessarily familiar with who Filthy Rich is. Like, obviously you've been doing this for a long time independently from Oakland the like, I feel like

there's something about the Bay Area and independence. They go hand in hand. It's been like that forever, like since since they say Master peve been out there, you know what I'm saying, giving out the game, all the older older guys been you know, with the independent route. Because I guess it's just something that just like grew from there to how I'll see it because like everywhere I go anywhere else, they not really hip to it. True, they're not really hip to it like they were more

like hell labeled this is this and all that. So it's like and then like a lot of people when they think of California, they don't think of Oakland, think of La. Yeah, like, yeah, man, I'm about to come to California. IM about to come with us. You can get a deal. I'm like, man, ain't no labels out here. The Empire the best thing going on right in the Bay Area. So I'm like, you mean you're going to La or something like right, right right, it ain't the same.

This is one of the biggest states of the hood. So when it comes to your strategy, Like, I'm curious because I feel like a lot of artists who are watching this are probably real Like most people, man, Brian Samson bro never ceases to fucking amaze me anyway, I feel like a lot of artists are obviously, if presented with any record deal, would just take it. Like I'm talking about like used to say they got a record right, right, And it's kind of different when you getting money already, true,

you know what I'm saying. So it's like a lot of these like I was just talking a lot of these people, it's like, you're not fee the record me and nobody go check out the podcastles you got something to do with it? Or I mean that's not I mean, that's not necessarily true. I mean I got homies that do for me to give somebody else if this is

how you can pay. So a lot of artists they're nothing to recommend another artist to get signed, knowing that this person can be bigger than them, can take from them. They have nothing to do with it unless they got unless they co sign or sign to them. So especially like if your artist has coming in and you already you know, up to they level. There are situations, but they're very few and far between where where there's some

genuine like you know, I got some genuine people. Yeah, yeah, but the ones I've met, like you know, I mean, it's the rap industry, this the game, so everybody looking for it come up. This guy might be not popping into music, but he got ties and connections with a whole different you know, with what you need. So he's like, okay, man, you gotta sign to me and I bring you up here, or we gotta you gotta sign our management, you gotta

sign on our label. Whatever. So would you suggest artists to stay independent and just you know, because like I'm assuming at what point in time because if you started in oh wait, I would say, like, at what point in time were you making like real money off a rap. What took a minute because it don't happen right away.

I was just talking to my bro Neft yesterday and he was telling me about he had checked his dash for that empire and he had like two hundred dollars on it, and I was like, bro, you only put out one song. You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, it took a while. Like I used to give my fifty dollars to go pay my metro bill. I be with it. But the more I put out, I started noticing more money. So that's that's what the independent game

came from. Like okay, man, So I'm looking at like the catalog, keep me yeah, at the dope game, like the like the CDs is the dope now, you know what I'm saying. So the more I put out, the more money I get. So it took for me to go up there one day not to empire to a different company. While back and I was they had to check for me for five g's wow. And somebody I was with was another artist and he was like, man, how he get that? Like he was like, man, got

he's been dropping. He's been dropping. So I've seen that. I've just been on it has that because I feel like that still holds true now in the streaming era, where like the more you drop, the more your Spotify builds up. Like you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, like my biggest iTunes check like seventy five thousand. That's crazy. That's for a month. Yeah wow, like once once it generates, you know, it went from ten twenty fifty. That's crazy. It was thirty at one point, and it goes up.

And that's when you get that call from Ghazi and be like, hey, let me get this big old bag upfront. You know what I'm saying. I wanted to ask you about there's a line on the intro where you say the ops you're on the same label as the ops. Now obviously you're on the empire. Our empire's got probably

they distributed so may like three thousand artists. I was about to say it it's a lot, but I took that at like what like what like I don't know who all your ops are obviously, but I kind of took that as like, Okay, is this Mazi thing is still going on? Because I mean both both you and MASI are both marquee artists and Empire uh now at that time being, I wasn't even talking about him, okay, because it's a lot of people at Empire that I

don't I'm fool with. Okay, So so those holiday parties are interesting, Yeah, yo, I can't imagine that'd be interesting. The last one was interesting. I didn't even see anybody, I'm sure out of respect though, for like the company and for Gazi, like it's yeah, yeah, me and gods you talking. I'm gonna keep it real like like like that situation is just like some rap shit or whatever. But it never went further than that. But Ghazi has tried to play a big part in it, like suicide

and out of respect for him. You know, a lot of things have been I feel like you two had I had obviously some genuine love for each other at a point in time in your life. That was the whole point, right, that was the whole point. Like I genuinely fucked with you. Yeah. A lot of people learned of Mazi from you. Yeah. Yeah, so I genuinely fucked with an Apparently you genuinely did so well. I mean, you know, look, at the end of the day, I

feel like it's like beating a dead horse. Yeah, no, no, I mean, you've talked about it a lot, but this that line. I mean, he has also not might not be vocal, like in interviews or whatever. I don't know if they asked or say not to speak about it. But I wasn't gonna speak about it. And then I heard the album. I was like, I gotta at least as about that line. Yeah, but you know in his music he throws shots. So that's why you might hear on the last album the new album. Yeah, so that's

where you might hear something from me come from. So it's like, okay, a direct shot or a sub direct shots, direct shots in the music. So it's like, Okay, what do I do? Do I keep it going? Do I say something? It's obviously unfortunate. I'm sure you guys have tons of mutual friends, mutual acquaintances. We don't. Oh, you guys don't. Nah. Well, a lot of people picked they side seeing that sucks, right, because it's like, now it don't suck, it doesn't suck. It's cool with me. I

don't care. I don't I swear to god, I don't care. Like it's almost like it's funny to me. At the end of the day because it's like, you guys wouldn't even know each other. I didn't introduce you to him, and then you guys still pick the side and you have nothing going on. Damn. So do you have you

noticed fans picking sides? Because that's where it gets kind of because I remember when the jay Z nas people was going on back in the day when I was a kid, I was on Naza's side and I was like, fuck jay Z. I don't really know if I noticed fans, right, because you guys, you guys definitely share a lot of fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do. I know the rappers. I know it's the rappers. Rappers have picked sides. That's fasting, Like you know, they like ship. They feel like, you're gonna go fuck with

this lingo. They're gonna go fuck with me because of whatever I think. I feel like too. With hip hop, it's like, did you notice people who you knew before he knew them? She was in the Masi side of course, Like like, can you say who? Because they're not relevant? They're not so not relevant rappers at least not relevant now fair enough. It might have been relevant when I was working with them, but they're not relevant. Now, okay, that's fair. You and Jim Jones have a dope record

on this project. In the couple, he's talking like you guys go back to a decade now, has it? Like you know you have you have records with so many artists, so many legends. But I feel like there's just something about that pedigree and and your work ethic and what you've been building that just anybody who's paying attention has to respect. Like even like when the big artists comes to the Bay, grab me, bring me out, like no

fuck around or whatever. A lot of artists that were talking before it like before they blew up, we've worked before, right, No, No, we're talking about You were telling me that you had an opportunity to sign Roddy Rich back in the day. How how many years ago was this because Roddy's been making music for a while since he was a kid. Well this was right before he took off, before he did whatevery deal with Nipp and Miek and or whatever, like we had did, Like was this while he was

still with Bird? Yeah, okay, so you and Bird almost connected together on Rodney mutual Friend. We came to the study. I think we did like three records one night or whatever. And same thing with Blue Face too. Me and Blue Face we was in the lab before he took off. Also out here like like i'd be in tuned to what's going on. I've noticed I pay attention to him man like he got to So why did why did you end up not signing Roddy? It wasn't just that

then I didn't want or nothing like that. The opportunity was brought to me through a mutual friend or whatever. We worked and then ship. After that, I just went back to the bay. That that that's crazy state. We stayed in contact. We still talk here in there. Me and Face still talk here in there too. But I mean I feel like it's better for him. I mean, I mean he's having it. He's having a great run right now. Same thing with Blue Face. Oh with the other guy, I could have signed him too. I'm sure

that that's for some change. Yeah, I mean you would have think that would have made tense back then. Me. I want to see everybody be a boss. I want to see everybody like I gave him niggas a plan like how to become a boss, like how to run your company, how to become a brand. The blueprint to independent success. Everybody like you could have did you could have did it like on like like it was like come up like I'm not no type of nigga like that, like I'm not hurt. I don't need it, you'd rather.

A lot of people say the game is to be so not told you that's and that's a whack thing to say. So it's like you should have did did you could have did this and that in the way they're saying it like in a bad way, like I'm like, bro, like I ain't trying to come up off no nigga like like plus at the time, Uh, he kept going to jail, right, he kept going to jail like like it was some shit called like flashes or some shit ten they flashes. He kept going to jail, kept going

to jail. But while he was down, I was keeping him alive. You know what I'm saying, Like you could check an old video I had with r J and YG just went YG album at first came out mush or whatever I had to I'm sweating on wow. Yeah. So when he was doing everybody was hitting me, Hey man, I need a verse. I'm like, man, he gonna be home so and this and this, you know, just on some genue shit though, But I don't. I'm not looking at niggas that's come up, like even with my artists.

I just gave him both for Rolex the other day. You get what I'm saying. I gave him both Rolex. I just told him, like, I don't want nothing. I just want you to keep working. That's fire, man. I wish somebody would have did that for me when I was coming up. Do you ever see a world in which you and Mazica have a conversation and recontell we can holler that's good thinking for show holler like it ain't.

It ain't to the point like nothing's happened to me, nothing happening, and it felt like some and we got some good rap music out of it. Yeah we did. Man, Look you was snapping on your ship. He was. Now. I mean, like, you know, look, as long as it stays on music, I'm all for for some rap beef. But it has to stay on music. That's the problem. When you look at somebody like you and someone like Mazie. I remember when it first happened, I was like, shit,

someone's gonna die. Man. Remember these are the two motherfuckers that I don't like. I wouldn't want to see anybody be You gotta understand too though, it was like like and then even from from a fan both, I mean when you both like one of the dudes where you're from. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like shit can't go sour, you know what I'm saying. So and at the end of the day too, like Nigga's not finished. I thought they like the way, you know what I'm saying. So

it's like, okay, I'm gonna get your scenario. When he made the song the Killed Every song, he posted a picture of my house at the time, being which it wasn't my house at the time. I remember that, but the next day the police was in front the house. I remember seeing that and being like ship here it goes. Yeah.

So with that being said, like once the police get involved, I just left it along because like if a rock wood, it went through the window and hit him in the head and he passed out there to try to come grab me. Right police involved, I'm done with it. That's why I didn't even respond to that for that. That's fair. Do you and and Roddy have any unreleased music together. Yeah, we do. What's that studio? We had room? You guys cut some records there. That's what we did. Do songs

and so are you blue Face? So you so? How many un that song? Blue Face, Zodi and Dan we did. We did like three songs to I know zodiansact so shocking Kobe, it was something like that and that's crazy. Shout out to blue Face man. He's he's a funny rich and blue Face man. They both doing their thing. They putting on for the West Man. No shame, man. I love to see you know, people in this rap

game win Yo. The ortions of the MAZI thing. Somebody told me it stopped me if I'm wrong or right, But somebody said it's because you You had did a project with someone he had a problem with. No, that's not the reason why I started. He did a project with somebody I had a problem with. Oh yes, okay, well it wasn't me, so it wasn't you. Copy. Someone asked me, somebody from you've heard that before, Like I'm not the first person to ring there the wrong way. Okay,

if I heard it the wrong way, okay, okay. Someone asked me from me his way to do it song with me. I asked him about it and he told me, yeah, it's good, you could do it. I can't, you know what I'm saying. But it ain't no problem with but you can't. So I feel like the respect could have been mutual same way because you asked Yeah, like he was dere when person ask me this something. Yeah, I didn't know them, Like is it like, so like you

can show me the same courtesy. I got people from Richmond and San Francisco, La whatever, Like if I hang with somebody, these my boys in LA, right, somebody hear me from LA to do it first, I'm like, bro, you know them, they're good. You know what I'm saying, right right, right? So that's just that, that's just kind

of protocol. Yeah, so that's what it was. But at the end of the day, the person they did the album with he in a fucked up situation and and all this shit happened over a dope that's crazy, over a crackhead happened over that. Who is the artist he did that? That's what the messed up. Shout out the mile he shut out both of them. You know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't mad. I'm not upset, like, ain't no shade, like do y'all thing whatever? We don't.

We don't. There's twenty twenty. I'm getting too much money. Bro. I'm still comping these forums, bro, still sucking these bitches still. I also feel like with what's going on in the world, like it's like they're not like you know, a lot of people should probably put it aside that ain't that you know, like we don't have the vibe you talk like, they don't got to be. It was a time before I didn't know you. I was straight, so I don't It's almost like, yo, people don't got to worry if

you guys run into each other. I don't know, or at least on your end. I don't know that's fair. I can't say that because I don't know the vibe when it happens, you know what I'm saying. That's saying as in music wise. I'm not tripping, as in like rying about you making songs or whatever. But I don't know. You might be turned up when you see me, or I might be turned up. I don't know. I've heard this before about you. Is there cities where you can't

perform in because of the police. Is Vegas one of them? Oh yeah, someone told me that, Like, yeah, man, I forget. I was talking to somebody about something with you. I think me and John Cosson were talking and I was like, what about Vegas? He can't do Vegas Metro on his head. It ain't that thing on my head. It's just what we rap about. Well, yeah, plus, I mean that's that's a city where a lot of rappers can't perform. But was there anything that happened out there? It was just

your subject matter. I mean they lay with me as a game member, but I'm not a game mem Yeah. They put that on a lot of people. Now. So and I can't perform in Oakland. You can't even perform your hometown. How long has that been going on? In two thousand and eight? Oh wow, so since you've been popping, you haven't been able to perform at home. I just did the Road in loud, but they welcome you off stage. Wow, that's crazy, man, King of Oakland. You know, you proclaim

yourself as the King of Oakland. A lot of people, I think a lot of people who aren't from or who aren't in tune. Rather, they kind of just group the Bay together. Right, It's like everyone thinks he forties from Oakland. No, he's from Vale. I'm saying a lot of people think that. I'm saying people who don't know what the fs going on. Like I told you, when people think of Cally, they think of La exactly, the Bay even more so because it's even more of a niche.

But like you have, like independently for Oakland done so much, who's like that? The og of Oakland's probably too short, right, So when you say you're the king of Oakland, do you get any any sort of blowback from making that statement? Keep it real? Like that song I just said that one I don't I was just rapping like it's not even a hook on the song. I just said it, and it became like it ruffled a lot of feathers from different artists. But Bathgate years ago saying he was

a king Oakland that in a minute. You know a lot of people. I'm sure Yucklin said it. You know what I'm saying. But at the end of the day, the line came out and ran I just named the song that. And guess what you should feel that way? Because shorten't say nothing and big dogs ain't saying nothing and t I used to, I mean, called himself the

King of the South. But he you know, he went through who he went through with flipping every but like nobody from what I've heard up there, that's able to even say anything that that's able to dispute that said anything say saying nothing. You know, I got a lot of love for short, I got a lot of love for all the old g's from Oakland that then did what they did. I look up to him, you know what I'm saying, because they did it before me. How could I not you know what I'm saying, especially because

they from East Oakland. Also, he're the guys that was coming through my neighborhood. These are guys I'm seeing what I'm selling dope on the corner, like looking up to like who I wanted to be, like coming to hang with my old g's from my hood. So it's no

shape to none of them by me saying that. But as in musically wise and popping and who who doing what they're doing consistently one hundred albums, not even just one hundred albums, just saying that's crazy because even though that's consistent, one hundred saying like, for the past year since I've been there, I've been out, Yes, since twenty ten, you know what I'm saying, So that's ten years. Yeah, and a lot of the Oakland rappers that you know

been doing they thing. It ain't been consistent. It's been here and there, a song here, video there, feature here, or whatever. But it just you know, you might not be as hot as you was this year, but you staying warm because you're still working and you might pop off again, but as long as you stay consistent, you're gonna still keep yourself in the groove. I wanted to ask you because I know you'll pull up in the city and yo, who need the features? Tap in? Has

anybody ever hit you? Because you know there's a lot of struggle rappers out there making some horrible music. Has anybody ever hit you in one of these cities you're in where you were like, I'm good fam somebody the other day for a thousand dollars for a feature. Well, I'm saying like where you heard the song it was just bad and you were like, I can't even get on this bread. As long as you ain't no snitch, I'll do so even if some straight straight ass just

whack ass before. It don't matter, Like, have you ever had to do the video for the whack ass shit? I got paid for it. I toarged the same amount for the verse as a video, So you gotta do yo yo run times too if you want the video, because the video is gonna work than the verse. Hell yeah, so the verse gonna take teen fifteen minutes. Man, videos a day's work. So I need the same thing. That is what it is. So future. So if anybody what's

the future, what's the future? Ten thousand for the future, another ten for the video, twenty all in that's wild man show. I was about to say, good for you, bro, Yeah, good for you with this project, this Yellow Beasy record. I was when you heard the hook? Did you put the fifty cent thing together? Nah? You just told me about that, okay, because I asked you. Because what happened when I just did the song. I was going to Originally what I was going to do was it was

gonna be no hook on it. I was because I had to beat tracked out. So I was just going to make like the sample louder for the hook, right, And then I'm like, man, I started looking at the features on the album. I'm like, let me get somebody for Texas, because that's how I work, Like, I try to pay attention to where my mark is at. Feed them. You're hopping in text and popping in Atlanta, popping in l Like, let me let me get these Detroit, let me get these artists from each one of these cities

in states on the tape. So that's how it kind of works. So if you pay attention to my music, that's how it is in those markets. Like I'm big and so bam, let me get let me get somebody. So I got Yellow Beezy and Lot Jeremy and Little Jeremy popping out there in Houston, right busy in Dallas. So I just sent it to him and and Bro sent it back. Him and trap boy Freddie, they facetiming knocked it out like you like it? Yeah, sent it

back Yeah, because I asked you. I was like, yo, y'all have to clear the fifty to fifty ballody And you're like, what, like, yes, he redid twenty one questions. See when I did the song, I didn't even pay attention to it. My boy Rouel, he just sent me to beat. I did that and then I didn't put no hook on it because I didn't know how I was gonna come on the hook. It was kind of girly.

How how much are you having to adjust your hustle for what's going on with the COVID, like on the music side, because obviously the live shows ain't what they used to be, Like, yeah, I ain't really had no shows since then. I had like five shows canceled when everything hit. That's what I'm saying, Like, have you had to adjust your business model or the way you're getting bred through the music? Like, has there been anything that you've had to switch up or anything that you've had

to do different? It's been doing the same thing, dropping the music and then doing a lot of videos. Like the tape got eighteen songs on it, but I'm about to drop the Deluxe, which would between two and I hot fifteen videos already. Wow? Is there gonna be a questions? Videos already done? Oh? Wow? Did you shoot it in Dallas?

In Dallas? In Dallas? Uh? I just had a video yesterday with jack Boy, and then I got the video with rich Gannon with Blue Bucks play right shout to him, m M, and then all solo songs on the videos already done. Obviously being somebody who's come from a street background, I asked Berner this question, and I think he said he lost like two million dollars. What is the biggest L you've ever taken in the streets? In the streets, in the streets, because you know sometimes I mean, I

mean shooting Dice. I shoot Dice a lot, shooting die. Well, what's the biggest L you've taken? Shit, I'm probably like that, like maybe like one fifty from from May to last month. Damn you a game. I wasn't mean shit you being I mean, do you still do you still stay in Vegas? Shu in Vegas? In the baby? But no, I'm not talking about from streating dice streets. Oh okay, okay, I'm on the streets, yeah, the street, not in Vegas. No, no, no no, but you but you said about shooting Dice

in the streets. H you don't want I'm saying you were gambling, ass, motherfucker. Bro we shoot, we shoot, we shoot, like two thousand and a hand crazy. But shit, you know it's it's ups and down. You get that ship right back. That's you know, what's the biggest L? You've taken it at the casino, probably like a fifty. Damn yeah, you feel like shit walking out the casino, man stomach touching my back. I've been there. I'm sick. I have been there with that feature. You're still trying to do

that in there. Listen. That made me stop. I had to. I had to, like, I had to leave it alone. I was a sport been in there one day, sports hundred dollars and it came out and left thirty yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, came out. It's like it's a high bro. Balance yourself out. When I first moved to Vegas, that's all I used to do. I go shopping, I go, I go, spend about ten thousand, go shopping, go right to the table,

get the money back to a year. So I used to, damn there, leave my bag still call me, hey, mister Beasley, you left your bags here. I had to go back at the bags. I hadn't got the money and went cast out and left and forgot about the clothes and shit I bought. But I used to do that like every day. Just so craps is your game of choice, because kind of Vegas is born like if it ain't nothing going on. So it's like shopping, studio or gambling. Like it's not really too much to do with strip

clubs at night time. I don't really go and the strip clubs there kind of fell off. I don't really go out like that to the clubs or whatever. So I just go gambling, go shopping. And you remember, h were you in Vegas when strip Hoop was popping? That was a movie man in there. I remember Mark Sun came in there. Turned one day someone got I remember someone got smoking the lobby man and that was it was a wrap they put the plug on that you

mentioned it. Remember. I don't know if you remember, but I had bought a billy in La some years ago and it came back stolen. Oh really, and I went to jail for in San Francisco. So the guy he worked or worked or own that spot strip up and he paid me back for the core. Wow. Strip hop is legendary, man. Yeah, there ain't been nothing else like that since out there. I know, like Mayweather spots. It's cool, but it's like it's like he miss there. I think

Mayweather is just like open on the weekend. Yeah, I don't know, man, Vegas, Vegas is I think everything's getting reshut down. I don't know, man, I've been moving, man,

I've been Miami, Arizona, La, the Bay, you name it. Man, I've been on the road trying to to you know, there like two collad projects with people who's somebody who you haven't worked with on like a full album that you would like to do, like a full like tape with I mean ice Work that was supposed to do a city fire shot to Detroit and supposed to do a whole cd uh. That's the only thing that I had on my schedule. I was I'm surprised you and Burner never did a full joint that should be crazy

for the Bay. Do you man, burnt fu with me like that? Really you're real? Yeah, he's done me like that obviously personal out the Burner, but burn out this money, but not the chemistry He's You guys just never got like just we've been arounding to said, you guys just never vibed. No we vibe. But I don't know, it's just something, it's something near that you feel me that it ain't being being talked about. But I mean, I mean,

I don't, I didn't. I didn't say this plenty of times, you know, to the inside, people just feel like burn he's a great dude though, like he's a he's a good dude. He didn't through big shows of course, field he's never involved. You know, he didn't do a lot of stuff for the store or whatever, cookies and all that. Field he's never involved. So I just be like, I mean, just like we like I said, you talk about the King Oak and stuff, like we know who's popping it

was going on. So if you're not supporting the hottest person in the bay, like, you gotta be something. Do you do you think because I feel like I mean obviously taking that out aside, you know, unbiased, but do you feel like for whatever reason, like I feel like Burne is another one of those guys like you who's just been killing shit for a long time. I just feel but I have no issue. But do you feel like he's slept on in hip hop? Because I feel

like he doesn't hit something. I feel like sometimes he just doesn't like when when people mention the bay, like for whatever reason, we all know him for weed and cookies, but like musically, like he's been doing his thing for so long, and I feel like sometimes he's I don't. I don't. I don't really know because keep it real, like no disrespect. I'm not really in tune to the music, so I don't really know if he's being slept on or not. Like we didn't done musically before, like I

think I was on the project with him and Dolph. Yeah, he didn't done a song for me before in the video whatever. But that's as far as it went, you know what I'm saying. So other than that, you know, I done went to the store before, cookies or whatever. I just left the cookie store before we got here. So it's not like it's not somebody. Yeah, but I just I just feel like, you know, it's just something

in between. Like I even talked to people that's close to him, right, bro, White Brother, don't fuck with me like that, you know what I'm saying. So that's fair, hopefully you guys. You know he's doing his things. I mean, I take the game from him, as in the clothing, the weed. You know I saw the last time I saw you, you had your your your strain with you. Is it kills? He was on JELYO five nine, Yeah, and you gave me something and I smoked it and inspired.

But you're still high, Uh getting into the weed game on the legal side obviously, you know, it's where the world is going. It's crazy that we still got people locked up in the United States over weed. Yeah, well they probably locked up before it was This ship is crazy now legal, That's what I'm saying. But now that it's legal, should you know? But but but I'm curious, like, have have you getting into that legal side of the of the game? Is what's different about it? And like

have it's been challenging? It all very challenging because like a lot of people do this ship like black market, I want to do it that way. Like, if I'm going to do it, I want to do it right. So I've been working on trying to get the licensing and then like you know, by them making it legal, now they want to tax it, they want to touch it, they want to see where it's been grown, they want to test it. So you know, for black man like myself, they ain't just gonna just you know, let me in.

So I gotta figure it out and wiggle my way. I got a wiggling you know, that's fair? Yeah, have you is there like any states are areas that are easier to get your license in. I mean, because I've noticed some of the homies go to Oklahoma. They want they want to see where it's being grown at. They want to they want to see where it's been grown. They want to test it, they want to they want to do all that. So they ain't just about the license. More to it. There's a lot more to it. Put

it in stores. I don't just want to like this is like me selling meat on the corner, like to do black market. I want to have my right. So when they come in or into the cookie story, like get the kills on, they got the jars, everything professional. You know what I'm saying. I think it's dope though that you're like, you know, diversifying man, especially, you got

to diversify it now. A lot of these because where I come from, you know what I'm saying, they love to try to get me for anything, right like they already, like you said, they are labeled. A lot of people label he was a gang member. A lot of these law enforcement agencies and that comes from I think the chief of police is from here in Oakland, so it's like he that's how they think they think gang gang, gang,

gang because they what it was. They wanted me to sit down with them and talk to them and film it, Like are you crazy? I'm like, I can't do that, Yeah, of course not. I'm not. I probably can have somebody representing me and talk or whatever, but me not to say it like that. But you're if that leaded with the way the internet works, now, listen, that's all it takes. Listen. One day, I was in the hood, right and it was a cop and he put up in the truck

playing my music. Wow. So he in the truck playing the music, right, So I'm like, I'm about to recording. So I recorded it. If I didn't posted, I deleted it. And then he jumped to my DM. It was like he was like, hey boss, this me the cop that was just playing the music. Can you see me in that video? And I showed everybody in the neighborhood. I know how he could read it, but don't open it. So I showed everybody in the neighborhood and I deleted it.

So because if I would have responded back to that, people would have been like, yore you talking to the coup. Like if I responded back to that, he would have screenshot that and sent that out come on they had had me on rad Facts and all that type of stuff. Man, it would have been crazy. Oh man, crazy. You know what sucks though, it is like you could have did that, and that's okay because you wouldn't do nothing wrong, but just how people would have token. But it's the internet hating.

So the internet is crazy, bro. Yeah, they want to say They say anything. Man, they say anything. But do you feel like uh, you know, I was. I was. We had Freddy Gibbs on the podcast and he had said something conservous that you saw that video with Gunner on Crime Stoppers. That's that's different and that's pretty he was telling. So I was going to ask you when you see something like that, because something that you're talking about is not the same thing. Man, they're gonna take

it as telling. Also, you spoke to the police. Me sitting down and the police. I don't know if they understand that how it would look, but me sitting down like I'm talking to you and talking to them, and they feeling and putting out there. You know, they gonna crop it and memes and and twisted, you know what I'm saying. So it's just do I do I lose my credibility and it can affect your rap career to be able to perform and get money legally. So if

I do this, I can get paid to perform. But if I don't, have to just suck it up and just say fuck it, make money out of my pocket, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, how do you win the same thing with the legal system. It's like, Okay, you go to jail, you get put on ankle, money there or whatever. You can't have a pistol on you. But you in the streets. You in the streets. You've been in streets all your life, so yourself. So it's either go to jail or die? Which one? Which one

you're gonna do? Poison is So it's like a Lulu situation. Really yo, I know you you dabble in the real estate hustle. No, don't dabble in the real estate hustle. You got houses everywhere that are like you got houses. I don't got real estate houses to where I flipping. Okay, so you don't get in and nah, gods, he told me to do that a long time ago, but I just haven't. I just been working my way down different things. Eventually, I probably will you get there. Yeah, I've been doing

the clothing, the dogs, the weed, the modewn company. I'm an artist. I'm really trying to stop rapping. You say you have a modeling company in the Bay Area. What kind of modeling company were talking about? You? Females? They do videos, hosting, well, you name it. Are they on backpage? Nothing like that? By the way, back pages retired. Everything is legal, man, everything. Hey, technically, technically you could you could hang out with someone and them girls have boyfriends, husbands, whatever.

I just came together and grabbed some models from the Bay Area and made a company. We did photo shoots, we did the new hustlers. You got to get a piece of their Only fans. I don't think about that. Only fans is legal. I don't know anything about that. It's crazy because now, like like like if you're a stripper and like you're struggling right now and you haven't made an only fans account, like you're crazy. You No,

not me. I'm married, I'm straight, but I'll be seeing motherfucking rappers got only fans accounts and ship if I did, boy but I'm talking about even motherfuckers. I wouldn't be doing nothing. I'll be suing what the girls doing, right, you know what I'm saying. Like I wouldn't be on there like me. You wouldn't see me, of course not. I mean you wouldn't see my face and nothing, but you would see them what they doing. My Only fans

would go crazy. I'm telling you some niggas that be mad around here, Like yo, my wife was on Filthy Riches. Only fans be serious how much they get paid that? Uh? I think it all depends, like it's like a monthly thing. We got a friendned Brian Sampson, who would know he subscribed to butch might start me fans, Hey, that'd be fire. Have just chicks like send you ship, No, no, just that I've dealt with so real women videos there you got. I got phones full of videos like I could dig

into archives get popping and get popping right quick. But they'll probably try to sue me, Like the girls. It depends on what state you're in. If you filmed it, they watching it. No, no, but listen, listen. If you filmed it on your phone, you own it. It's and I think in California it's a one party consent so I think you're good. Oh yeah, that's that's why all the porn companies are out here. That's why like the Kim Kardashian tape, y J film that he owned the footage.

I'm about to go big man. What do you get for that? Oh he got a bag? Yeah. If you have anybody with any sort of clout, run it up. Bro, about to go big, run it, about to go big on the fan? Yeah? Why not? Man? See me doing that? Fuck them ruined their life? Who cares? I'm just you put me on. I'm just playing anyway, yo. Man. Listen, the album is out. What's your favorite song? I bro, I funk with the record with Uh, with Veszo, that Ship is Hard and the Big six Big five nine. Yeah,

I listened. I listened to the whole album straight through yesterday and and that record stuck out. I liked the Jim Jones record, like I told you. The intro was hard, Quarantine intro was fire, see keep it real. That songs. Oh, the intro I recorded I think on my birthday. It's called King Open January thirty. January thirty, King Open, winning too, right,

So that's from January. Yeah, I just put it on that was because there's a lot of you talk about you know, what's going on with the COVID shit A lot on there too, like did you you and Jim recorded that joint in Miami? Nah, I sent the gyms in the back fair enough. I just came up with the the idea with the hook, the name of it from what he said whatever. I just left Miami all shot two videos out there. Video for that song, I

shot this other song. I got four other songs for the Deluxe for the that's a new way man to go double up on them boom. I got some new songs too. I might do it the CD, but I might not. That might be my last CD real quick. I'm cured like your last CD ever, she might retire. I've been saying that's what I want to do, so like you won't let me though, I was gonna say, how do you figure? How do you like? Like? When do you know it's time? When you when your interest

is it's something else? You know what I'm saying? Like I said, like I got like other businesses, the only fans it starts, you know what I mean. I don't want to for one. I just don't want to sit back and become a rapper that's just rapping and uh, you know, no disrespect to any of the older rappers from Oakland me. I don't want to do that, right. I want to come in, get my w you know what I'm saying, and get in and get out and

leave it at that. And then this was this was something to open the door for something else, you know what I'm saying. So that's how I look at it. But I've been doing a whole bunch of other stuff that's been generating money. So you talked about Gazzi. You guys obviously have a very strong relationship Empires. Uh. You know, I think that they've kind of changed the way a lot of people think about how they release music. What is the like what what is asked Mazi the same thing,

like what is it about Gasi? What is it about Empire that you know? It is so good? Because I like, like you said, like major label has been knocking a lot of people. Keep it real. See if I'm not mistaken, I think like in twenty twelve, I was just releasing music and then I think guys, he came looking for me. It was like I have everybody but filthy, So I

came over there. I think I released a series of sim City money Man It's one, two, three, four, and then guys, he was seeing how my bad coming in and then like, well, when you get a single, we'll do official official album. So I made them make a living record with soup. So I gave him that song, and then that's when I created the album around the single. So he was like, okay, let's do want to do a budget for the single? Like yeah, and then I went half. So I came in and brought the money

half of what he wanted to put up. And ever since then he always like, I respect how you moved, like you didn't just come with your hand out like and then that's how he like introduced me to Dolf because he was like, Dolph is the same way, like you can, of course remind me of each other. So and like anything I asked, like if I called Ghazi for whatever, like it's done, Like I don't even remember time he's ever told me no, so and I know that he wants to see me win. I know that, yeah,

he's he's got. He really is all about pushing the Bayman to the forefront of music. He like he he like I was supposed to be a and oor over here. That was my next Yeah mean you got the ear. You could have had Riddy, you got the ear. That's what I'm saying. I actually do it now, but it's not on the pay road, right, you know what I'm saying. Like I called, like grabed this person, he hit this person. Nothing m this type stuff. But that was my next movie.

After I was done with the done with the music, done rapping, and then and then ship I just started building over there, bringing artists over there, bring artists over there. So like whatever I do, they just respect it. That's fire man, Yo, go support the album and yeah request questions, Yeah man, no questions. Yellow Busy I single video about to come out. Videos on the waite. Uh, it's gonna

be there. We did it like we was locked up in jail two then the girls who was calling the girls on the phone, they was holding it down while we was in jail. That I always be wondering where mother Tucker's find fake jails? Where do you find the fake jail to shoot the video? They got fake. They just got fake, Josh Garant, they got fake. They got fake. Proper deal with with the cages with the bars, with the bed all that it got, I was like, Yeah, where do they get they have, like, have it here?

I'm sure they got like they definitely here, different different rooms with different like setups in them. That's what it is. WELLO Filthy Rich, Appreciate you. Tapping in Man, Appreciate you. Boom