#51 - Carl Crawford

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success of just everything you know. But right now you got Erica going crazy for people who don't know who you are. Man, kind of give us a rundown on who you are, what you do and uh and you know, just kind of some of your background. Man, love yup, you know called. My name is Carl crawl from Houston, Texas. I actually started out playing baseball, a fourteen year career. Well, I ended up playing my last three years hit with the Dodgers, decided to retire from baseball and got into

the music. I did not realize you're the same Carl Crawford to play baseball. You don't know that? No, yeah, oh shit, yeah that's wild at the time I get there, because you know, not a lot of people go from the sports thing to the rap shit in the works. None of them like Zach Randolph. A lot of people know Randolph's kind of low key behind money bag yo. Yeah, me and him, we talked about it. Me and him always like like, you know me the only ones kind

of pulled out. Yeah, because Mellow tried to do it in a fair a lot of Mari Stodamighter had a label and it didn't work out. Wow, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, sit, I just you know what I'm saying. I felt like I can do it because of my connections in Houston, and I decided to take it serious. And yeah, you do. You got the right recipe whatever you're doing, something about female talent, you know how to find that. Yeah, I mean, you know,

it's just the talent period. Yeah. Yeah, So it was like one of those dreams to have, Like you say, for some reason, sports and hip hop go together. Yeah. They always want to do what we do. You notice they always come in to the state and want to do what we're doing. We want to do what they do. So, I mean, look at Lebron he just said he want to put a for the whole album. Yeah, like some DJ called type Ship. Yeah for what Bro, You're You're like, you gotta just gotta do it. So it's one of

those things. So what year did you end your baseball career? And in twenty sixteen, So that wasn't not that long ago. Had you already started the label prior to and like like leaving baseball, I hadn't. I hadn't started it yet, but the idea had already been in my head for a few years quite some time. When I retired, I just immediately went right into it. I didn't. Was Megan your first artist? No, Megan wasn't my first artist. She was she was like like my six or seventh artists.

She's the first one that really really like one took out. That's crazy, and uh, you know it's a lot of people who might have had six or seven artists prior would have been like, all right, you know what, I tried it, it didn't work out three and just yeah, I mean it's just that when we had her, she was steady going. So you know, as long as you got somebody got one person that's you know, kind of going up. You can kind of keep managing the others

and hoping that they do the same thing. At some point, do you feel that, you know, obviously, having a successful baseball career, you have the finances that a lot of other people might not have the break an artist Oh, for sure, because that's one thing I learned. You know what I'm saying, it costs a lot of money to

be in this game. You know, it's a lot of it's not cheap to break an artist, and then you gotta deal with the finessas like you know, as an athlete, nobody gonna take us seriously, So you're gonna deal with a lot of people that can tell you this and that, and they you know, they gonna take the bread and do whatever they want with it. So it's like you have to be careful for all that. So yeah, it's

like a lot of people don't understand. You know. Obviously there's the real slow grind, but then there's you know, the overnight ship which just goes viral, but then like really the build a artist, Like I've seen what y'all did with Megan. It was like really, like that shit ain't cheap, man, Like, did you did you like follow a model? Like who did you look? You just created your own recipe? When he's coming up, they kind of

just went along with it. Any big homies in the music game that were kind of you know the way you know, of course I'm always asking him for advice you know, that's the only person really, you know that I get advice from. But I just saw a coach and like I sit back and watch, like Drake come to our city, Houston and just just Drake weekend. Well, I mean when he first started coming out, when he was with j Prince Junior around with jazz just like

a nobody. So I actually saw this process from start to finish on how they groomed the person, and he just did like one little Houston song and it just crazy. Yeah, I was like, man ship. All they did was found somebody with telling and kept them in the cool spots around Houston. And the next day. You know, he paid a lot of homage to Houston too. He loved Houston because we the one broke them. So when I saw that,

I was like, man, I can do that. It's crazy cause when we think of hip hop, we think of football, we think of basketball, we batter ever really think of baseball, right. Baseball is like it's a sport that I feel like it's hard to get youth into because it's because you know, to watch a baseball game, it's about strategy, it's about so much more than I can't watch it. I go to a live game, but on TV, I can't. I can't watch it. A lot of people say you gotta

know somebody you know and then you go live. But you know what I'm saying, like you gotta be into it, but you know, got to like it. But at the game game ship faced hot dogs? Yeah, talk ship at the way? That was me, what what what positions did you play? Okay, so you so you heard some ship in the outfield? What's the because you always hear about like fans talking ship. I've heard a lot of city. Well I've heard a lot of people say Boston got

racist fans. They said Utah as well. You know baseball team James Christ nobody playing base they got a jazz bro relaxed. I don't like you tall that. Like, like you ever hear any racist ship or any crazy ship out there? Whatever they say. Man, you know you're an athlete and they're gonna say what they're gonna say. Now, one of the funniest things somebody ever told me was like, you know, they're like, I hate crow for the man

you couldn't throw a baby shower. You know, you know what did you giggle at that when he heard that? Did it's a good one. Like yeah, like I got you know what I'm saying, Like, but sometimes they just yeah, you know they're trying to Hey, they won't want to see their team lose. So how you feel about the other athletes that got a problem with the crowd yelling at them, like like they get all hot jumping the crowd.

Gotta go do something else for a living, you know, because it's just kind of what comes with it comes with it. Yeah, they gonna they're gonna act the food, especially them East Coast teams. I say, like New York's playing playing in Boston, is they got a certain infinity for the for the Red Sox right right, the real passionate very like like you could argue they got the

most passionate fans. Yeah, you can't get that. Yeah, what was it like like being in Boston and being was this was this was after the World Series, like when the drought ended? Uh what drought? You know when there was this Red Sox drought you know yeah yeah, yeah, no, this was after. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. When I was there was after, so they wasn't as bad

before that drought. I heard. I wasn't there, but I heard it was really rough, but they kind of lightened up right into a little bit, but it was still Boston. So you know, you just deal with hey man, it's all a family, a fat you will have a five year old kid flipping you the bird, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's why you say something back. You the you're the bad guy around like this Tanner, Yeah,

so you know it'd be wild. I just had Big U up here and we were talking about his original deal with Nipsey. He had a production deal with Nipsey that Nipsey signed like oh nine, and it was for he's like ten years, right, And me and Big You were talking and I was like, damn, ten years. That's that's crazy, right, Like when you think about that's that's

that's a lot of time, right. But you know he was saying, he was like, yeah, but what people don't see is the five years that led up to even being able to make money, right, you know what I'm saying, And the idea that well, if I got you here, you know, I got you here, so I could you know, it's almost like you know, investing in something, you know what I'm saying, Like you should be able to reap the benefits of that, right, And he brought you up

in this situation that you have with Megan, and well, me and DJ had and Megan's a sweetheart. We interviewed her. Sho's so nice. But we had a conversation and it's like, and I manage artists, you know, and it's it's like, yo, I'm not saying that Megan wouldn't made it with her without you, because she's fucking immensely talented. But you took a chance on her, invested in her. She signed the paperwork. What would you say, like, like, what did you learn

from that situation? See? In that situation, man, it's it's it's so many like loose things with that, you know what I'm saying. Like with me and Megan, she new to the business. I'm new to the business. We had a mutual guy that's her manager right now, T fairis T Ferris. Well, I don't know if we well, I just I just remember Paul Wall used to rap about him, you know, but this guy, he really took advantage of

me and her not knowing what's going on. Right, So you know, if I were to learn anything, I would just say that like because people don't know that contract. I had nothing to do with it. You know what I'm saying. He's got t Faeriris. Mom did the whole thing, So I'm new. I'm just excited about being in a business. The baseball guy, you got, you got the bag. I just retired two years in the game, and I'm like top of the music scene, like doing the damn thing. Yeah,

I feel you. So I'm not even I'm letting this guy run all my business stuff because you know, I don't. I'm clearly advanced and I don't know what's going on. Also a link to the music industry. Yeah, so I don't. I don't know what's going on. So they do this deal and you know, they bring it to me. Cool, they happy with it, fine, you know, and when things hit the fan, you know, when the big people come,

I didn't understand. I still couldn't even understand the concept of what was happening, you know, at the time, because they were moving so f I didn't know a manager gonna come in one day and signed, Like, I didn't understand none of this stuff. So of course when the majors want to come in, the managers, they look for any little thing and they pound these little problems with this contract, and you know, all of a sudden, I'm

the bad guy. But at the end of the day, I just learned that, you know, that type of stuff you need to just know about it. Contracts, you know, understand, do people the right way, you know, and just try to because I try to be on top of your business more. Well, I think that the perception was that you had signed her to a shitty deal. Yeah, and I'm not sure that that's the I mean, I think

that that might be obviously misleading. That's what social media or social media just the thing with that, you know, like like I say, with the deal, like okay, we gave a sixty forty profit split, Like nobody gets no which is great. Nobody's getting those kind of deals. Like even when she leaves me or whatever, she'll never get that deal. You know, people just didn't understand contracts, and they wanted to just blame somebody, and you know, they wanted to get out of the contract. They wanted to

just avoid it. She just wanted to go to rock Nation and be under Jay Z and all that cap shit. But you know the thing was all that they never they never called me. They never said nothing to me. They waited for me to say one little thing on the internet. Oh you made me mad, right, you know? So it was like they found that one thing and just turn everything against me. And I'm clueless. So just imagine you and a person y'all potting us me making

we ain't nothing wrong with us? Like you and t Feris that he was doing this in your opinion, he was doing that. Yeah, he handling his business, be moving, we thriving, you know. And the next day she saying, hey, fuck y'all. You know what I'm saying. And I'm just imagine you don't even know what's happening. You know what

I'm saying. You just like what's going on. I've never me and Megan never had a problem with each other, always gave her what she wanted, never told her no a day in my life, you know what I'm saying. And it was just like damn, you know, so what happened. Of course, when you call the t Faris guy, he's

playing both sides, doing the end around. He called me crying one day, saying that she don't want to fuck with us no more, and he know that's gonna get me going like, oh, she don't want to fuck with us, Well, but shit, we gonna hand all business. Yeah, well then you gonna tell her he said fuck you too, you know what I'm saying that type of shit. Wow, next thing, you know, she like to this day, me and her

never even talked about nothing that happened. This guy. If you notice this guy, Ti Ferris, you never hear from. He never say nothing. You never nothing because he don't want to want to say nothing. He claims that, oh, I just don't want the fame and this and that, but use the cause for all this problem, like it never was a problem with me and Magan. But this guy he hides and he like, you know, he probably gonna try to, you know, say oh, oh I'm defamation

for character the stuff he like to say. But don't care because I know what the truth was. But you know, if it wasn't for this guy, when my mother passed, he jumped in up there. If it wasn't for this guy, me and Megan will still be cool right now. And as of right now, do you still are you still benefiting from her career at all? Yeah? I mean we still locked in. You still got the pack, Okay, so people want to say, oh, well you running a little

Jay you know, and this and that. It was like, well, that's the only person I knew who understood what was going on. Who else was I gonna call? You know what I'm saying. Had not I did that Rock Nation was gonna take everything from me, I wouldn't have got nothing, you know what I'm saying. I would have just been like they look at you like you're the little guy. You know, you don't got nothing. We're gonna take your ship from you. Like having having Jay step in and

speak up for you. How important was that? It was everything? I wouldn't Like I said, I wouldn't have had nothing. They wasn't They wasn't coming to They didn't come in and like to like say, oh, we want to give you your show. They was like, nah, we want it all, you know. So when I saw that, you know, I had to go. I had to go do what I had to go. Do you know what I'm saying. I'm from Fifth Ward, that's a notorious place in Houston, Texas

as well. Of course princes from wey'all from the same neighborhood. He you know, in the business. He reason one of the reasons why I even got to doing this so con Yeah, So I was like, this is the only person I know I can call to kind of just even see what's going on. It wasn't like a scare tactic to try to scare Megan or do nothing like that. You know, this was really the only person I could call. So do you think, looking back at every how it all went down, do you think you could have handled

anything different? Are you think you do everything exactly the same? No? I try to like be more, you know, like she for me. You know, I wasn't tune with I mean and like just like speaking, you know, like how you treated like a little system memo communication. But I just did that by design. I was like, hey, she the artist.

I don't want to bother all the time. So I could have had a probably could have had a better relationship with her where we spoke more and that way, uh, the stuff in between wouldn't have been so cloudy, and they couldn't like like infiltrate the situation, like put that shield up right there, y'all feel just saying you And that was the most hurtful part because me and this guy played little league baseball together. So and so, he like,

he hustled me the whole time. He made me think that we was partners and we was friends and all this stuff, And the whole time he was he was running against men when he got the chance to make a move on. Do you think that being an athlete coming into hip hop that because I've seen it happen where like promoters or managers they look at they look at an athlete because they know you got the bag and they're like, it's almost like they're hustling you the

whole time. It's a hustle and I have to learn it. And that's why I like, I've known guys. Hey, let me tell you this. I know who you are as a baseball player, but I had no idea that it was the same Carl Crawford, So I thought you played for Utah apparently, so no, no, no. But what I'm saying is that it says a lot about the what you've built with fifteen oh one is that it's independent of And that was and that was about design. Like

if you notice on my Instagram, I'll post baseball. So I wanted to create my whole new identity and whatever it was, I was going to be doing. So you flipped right away. But I had buddies like trying to do music playing and they'll be like, tell me how much money they waste, and I'll be like, damn, you know, like you know what I'm saying. But in my mind, I was calculating on what I was gonna need to do because I knew I was gonna take a rear run at it at some point. And it's worked out.

It has worked and that and and you got this. You know, obviously for people who don't know who Erica banks, it's the Bust Challenges probably the biggest TikTok moment in the last year. So yeah, that was just like a gift from and it was an older record. Wasn't old, but it was. It been out for like six seven months, right, We had put it out in Much or something like that. So yeah it was out, yeah not much like much and worked, it did well. You know, we was getting

ready to go to another song. But it's like God just paid us for the for the hard work from March to the symbols. So it was the challenge designed or it's somebody, some some random TikToker just did it just randomly happened. Damn, that's why you just see it. Just pop off that TikTok and do that too. Look, I didn't have a TikTok nothing I saw. When I saw those first challenges come in, I was like, you do that? So when did you know when the challenge

was popping out? When did you know? Okay, we got some here? I knew when the first day Erica posted like six of them in a row, but she wasn't posting the right ones to me, posting like the ones she thought was cool. I was like, ship, I'll been posting the other ones. So I want to go look for other ones that she had. We want to go. Look. It was like you couldn't even find it. It It was but you look up that damn hashtag and it's like, gosh, I can't even it's out of my hands. Now took everything.

Oh man, that's crazy. Is there anything with Erica that that you've applied that you might have learned from working with Megan? Yeah? Like I said, more communication, Like you know what I'm saying. Like with me and Erica, we like I wasn't taking a chance no more with that.

Ship moved to her straight tip. You know what I'm saying, Houston moved in, like we got more close to more night in and just so well, you know, uh, we won't have to have you know, if she feeling bad about something or don't like something, you could come say it to me. You know what I'm saying. You ain't gotta like plot with the manager and then you know,

y'all scheming against me because I'm this bad guy. They want to do something harm to you, you know, and so pretty much just like the communication, and you know, because because you know what she said when they came here, they said that everybody was saying this contract was so bad. But the first thing she said, hey we want that Megan contract, I was like, all right, sixty yeah, I mean nah, but I wanted to just show a point, like you know what I'm saying, you were telling us

we gave you this bad contract. Man. People come in here this like it's almost bad that it's public, because now that's the first thing people asking about you. Do you take what happened personal against Megan? Do you think it was more the fair character? See, the only reason why you know you you saw the spats between me and Megan is because you know, you know, of course she'd like to say a little smart stuff because she want everybody to think she like tough all that stuff.

But you know, we know the real So it's like we're gonna say something back. We all from Texas too. We're not gonna let you talk and say stuff and then we're not gonna say nothing back, especially when we know we didn't do nothing wrong to you. But never had an issue with Megan. You know what I'm saying, We almost got our business wrapped up. I won't have no issues with her. Then it's you know what I'm saying. I just hate that, you know, the t Farris guy.

I keep coming back to that because you know what I'm saying, I moved this guy into my house. You know, for a whole year he was living with me and we were all just doing this stuff for him to cross us up like that, and he understood when I came home, I told him I had a plan, and the plan was to be a Houston culture back up,

you know what I'm saying, and keep doing. It wasn't just the fun making, you know, So for when they did that, it was like they closed the doors on the city for a little bit, you know, what I'm talking about, because you did all that work to open them doors back up and bam. Yeah, it's crazy because when you just what you said about Houston culture and and and and Travis obviously he trans I mean, he's brought Houston culture to the world in a way that you know as far as you know, did the album

and called Astra World, you know, ship like that. But but when it comes to like when I was in high school and it was Mike Jones, Slimp, Doug Cha, Millionaire, Paul Wall I Live. Yeah, like that was like gold Roll, you know, everybody, like he was in the middle of all that, you know, and it's like if you talk to those people, they probably had these same stories, right.

But what I was gonna say was like that culture in Houston was like it was like it was so crazy wild man, and I lived all through it, all through everything. I ain't it's nothing. Yeah do you think that, because because I don't. There's so many artists popping from Houston now, but I don't think that it feels as in sync, like not like how I had that impact, Like it was the impact MTV viewed it on I

was watching it. There's still Tipping video man still Tip was like, oh, it was like yeah, it's like and I also feel like there was like this this this you know whether or not you know Paul walk Mill and it ended up splitting up, but there was so there was some sort of it was like community. It felt like everybody fuck with each other for a moment, you know what I'm saying. But it was all Houston thing.

You know what I'm saying. It was like it was they it like like face blim Doug got signed it for real and ship you know, you know you had jam who had Houston on the map, but they took it to another level. It was like global pow wow all that. You know. I like it when I used to walk up to the place, you know, I was walking out the Paul we break the mouth all that. You know. Yeah, it did something different. You know. So I was efatuated with that culture because you know, they

was my age. We all the same age, high school, all that stuff. You and I and Prince. How did you guys? How did your relationship start? I interviewed him a couple of years ago, and you know, I it was it was great. He like I say, man, you always saw him for him afar because you know from

the same Yeah, and he's a legend. You know. When I got older, when I got about seventeen, you know, I finally met him in person, and you know, just started in and out, you know, you a meeting from time to time, speak with him, you know, for whatever reason. Even then, you know, I was asking him about the music business, and I was using those those little tips from when he gave me as like an eighteen year

old today, you know. So it was like we always talk about just like music or life or you know, just like the little mentor and type of thing. That's one thing he taught to you that you you brought with you when you started the direct label. Man. Really with him, I just like kind of learned like patience, you know what I'm saying, I need to do it non type of actually now he more like sit back, wait to make your move type you know what I'm saying.

And you know, I kind of really liked that type of well moving because it really lets you like think first, you know, when reacting so much. You know, so you know, just kind of like that patience and that's just that that mentality of that hood. But still like you know, respect and all that type of stuff. Who are the top five Houston rappers ever? Man? Top five? And you know what, we will will exclude Port Arthur because you know,

bumbying and PIMPSI probably would be. So you know we're gonna We're not gonna you know, Okay, if you're gonna do that, then you know you're gonna have to Houston Metro Area only Houston Metro Area on all right, Well you got scarf face probably gonna be number one. Facts I put little flip okay, uh a little key key Okay.

I'm from the North Side, so I'm gonna roll with my boss swim thud yep and then my last one, Fat Pat alright, don't know, yeah, man, listen, bro I used to I used to bang screwtapes when I was like fourteen. Yea, fat Pat. You know what I'm saying. See like like for me, I like the screwed area and all that stuff, but I'm from the North Side, you know what I'm saying. It was like, I don't

know if you understood that culture back then. It was just so like bad with each other to well, it kind of gave me a death feel to the the south side, you know what I'm saying. But I still jammed him. But it was like, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I heard that before. It was the north side of Houston. In the South side of Houston, there's like it was

a rivalry. It was going down because they kind of came up with the type of that type of rap style, you know, like a little keykey right, and then would switch the house from the south side or from the north side, like push house from the north from the north side. And that's kind of why we was you know what I'm saying, And they was Slim was like, you know what the forekfront just you know, just bringing it to you, giving you that feel like like you know what I'm saying. So that's how he kind of

we kind of gravitated to him. But plus we were seeing him like middle school and I remember just being enamored by the fact that he had so much money before I even knew the fuck he was. Like, I remember he was on MTV and he had all these cars and these houses, and then the album came out it was called Already Platinum. He was doing his uh you know, Houston is the home of the independent of course, out the trunk, out the trunk. Man, I feel so left out of loop with the Houston stuff. If I

need to get in it. I love Houston, Oh man, you know what I'm saying. I love you. Listen to every hip hop Ryan right now. It's gonna you're gonna you're gonna find every one saw that one line and every song is Houston right right, so you know, but you know the drink thing kind of they taking it down, So I'm more than ten fifteen years when I's gonna happen. Well yeah, I mean even the drink shit like that's

Houston Houston was? I mean, come on, man, I gotta get what I gotta give the program to ask you this. When you were playing baseball, would you sip lean ever? Nah? No, never, because I mean what would you even like if you were to, would that even be something that come up in like a drug test because it's technically cough. I don't know, is that a thing? Is a baseball players sip and lean right now? Yo? Like, Okay, what year were you drafted? Nineteen ninety nine? Oh shit? You was

it drafted with right in the steroid era? Steroid era? Oh it? Did you ever participate in any steroids. When you're playing any HGH or anything, I'll still be playing Yo to this day, Bro Barry Bun's head got so big, I'll still be playing still in thirty bases, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you was a base still you stole a lot of bases. But see, I want of the old dudes. I really like be worried about my body.

Was scared that, you know, I was gonna put some ship in there, and I don't know, you know what I'm saying. I was always worried about that right leg stopped working. It's just take the wrong thing. It was tough, you know, because you got every picture in the steroid era. Everybody throwing ninety seven ain't nobody throwing under ninety eight miles was still affected by it. I just had to get through it the best way I could. Wow, what, Yo, Which picture in your opinion was that the one who

scared you? Who you were? Like? Fuck? Here we go, man, ship, I have to face Randy Johnson. I'm from Arizona. Come on, man, Brad, did you that's your boy? Left wing Randy Johnson? My favorite picture ever from way behind you? You know, Randy Johnson and he's fucking like six foot ten. Yeah, he was a tough picture of a lifted two. I hit him will but he could get from the top. Randy Johnson coming from right hill. Randy Johnson was the guy who sticks out. Yeah, okay, when you played baseball, this

was so the Sammy social Mark maguire thing happened. It was ninety eight, I believe, right, So you come the year after. I remember that. That was like, uh, Luis Gonzalez was on the Diamondbacks and hit like fifty six home runs and it was like the first time he ever hit over thirty. That's that's what it is. You know what was going on. Yeah, I ain't never get caught. So oh, I mean come on, I mean we got another fucking World Series and one you know what I'm saying.

But it was just as it was a historical time in baseball because I'm always I'm for the steroids. For the record, that's what they definitely everybody just do what the fut You know how much better the ratings would be if everybody was jacked up. Listen, they let him, they let him do steroids. Then they taking the balls up. You know what I'm saying, so it was like, was just jumping, That's what was there. Like we always hear about cheating going on. The Astros just had that cheating scandal.

That was crazy. Man. Hear about people with corking their bad ship like that, with that kind of ship like be happening. I was playing against Sam and Soca today when his bat got crooked. You know what I'm saying, Oh, you were there. I was in left field. So I'm sitting there like, what's that? You know what that that broke? You know what I'm saying. He already hitting sixty homes a year, he still got a and he's still cheating. But now we will well, you know he's on steroids

as bad as courts. Now he's a white guy. You see that mother ship. He was like a Cuban Michael Jackson pink at this point. You yeah, We're like, man, he hit all these homers already cooking. How much more does he need? So show you man, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. That's what they say. All right, you pay for the Dodgers. You uh you played for the Rays right? Uh? The Red Sox? Where else did you play? That was the three you spent the most amount of

time in Boston and Tampa. I used to listen, man I lived in Tampa. I lived in Saint Pete. That's why man I lived right on Fourth Street, seventy third Avenue. Listen, man I was in. I was in Saint Pete tearing him down. Boy man, hey, hey, hey, we might have some we might be uh you know what do they call that when you hit the same chicken? I know each other? That that's my brothers. Oh yeah, definitely my brothers. Because I was taking down a few raised girls for sure. No, no, no,

a few of the Ray's girlfriends. Yeah. Yeah, you know my boy Buck wheat Orlando from ninety four one Buck Wheat Orlando and the Nut House and those guys. That's my man. I would have. I would FaceTime on last my that's where I worked. You know, I can't believe it either. He like man ship, you know what I'm saying, because you know they watched me play with the Rays, so now you like, you know, see I'm in the music, you know. So you playing with the Rais, so you

you're the World series and eight was you there? I was not. I was there for uh way after that but I remember that team, and uh, I feel like that team kind of lean a little bit on the kind of like the moneyball, right, like as far as they did on the money ball, But they we had Joe mannon you know what I'm saying. Yeah, legendary coach, belief system. You know what I'm saying. Like it was even past the money ball, it was just the whole

mind stages, you know what I'm saying. I didn't think nobody can really get into my head like that, you know what I'm saying. But he came in and like got the best coach you played with. Yeah, he probably the best one because because because because no matter how negative you get, he wouldn't ever let you get negative all the positive. Like for example, I'll be, you know, mad about something with a teammate. I'll be like this, motherfucker, I don't care what happened to you know what I'm saying.

I'll be back, come back, go on, Joe Office, give it to him, just like I told everybody else. And he'll just damn let me get it out. Just start breaking me down this and that and but in the come down, and you know you're yelling, just be like all you gotta get some off your chest. I was just like, what happened? I'll be like, man, he got me.

That's that's the I think that that's the weirdest sports venue I've ever been to, Tropicana Field because you're in there and it don't feel like you're in a baseball game. It feels like something. It feels like it feels like you're a carnival. That's exactly what it feels like, like it's the State Fair or something like they're like there's some sort of like gun convention going on down there. Like that was that that was had to be a weird place to play. I mean, I like, you get

used to it. I'm sure you know what I mean. It's not gonna be high. It's perfect temperature and stuff like that, because you really appreciate that when you start playing on Like when I went to Boston, I was like, damn, you know, I'm used to the games starting on time every day, seven perfect, and now I got this cold

weather and I'm just, you know, uncomfortable all the time. So, but have you thought about signing anybody from Tampa because you know about I'm sure you know about Tom g And yeah, artists in tune with the with the well you know Rod Waves from Saint Pete. Oh yeah, he from the seven to seven Man, he'd be banking that ship too. Yeah, hard you need to tap into that Tampa. There's a lot of up and coming dope like young Cats and I'm moving. Yeah Brood now was chilling those

making too much money to worry about it. He's and oh yeah, he's killing. Yeah, Orlando got all the rappers. I think he made Orlando from Wild our friend. No, Orlando's booming to Jacksonville. But Saint Pete, Tampa got some ship man, and Tom G is still rapping. Shout out to tom You remember Tom G from back in the day. I wasn't really in tune with the with the music scene back then like that. I only knew when I

first got there. Man, they told me I had to listen to Trick Daddy mm hm replies, and yeah, you know what I'm saying. It was forced. Did you ever go to Club Sky? What was yeah? I mean if it was, I went, OK, fair enough. Well, look we appreciate you pulling up man. Congratulations on the label, and and you you there's another artist that that. Yeah, we got another artist coming up by the name of Stunner Bam.

You know, he got this song called Rockott with the Erica Banks and you know it's been doing Where's he from. I appreciate you, I mean I appreciate you putting on for the city. Man. That's what I can that's what you said. I'm gonna look more into it for just just because you came. I'm gonna look more into it. But I don't know. I'm lost everything y'all was talking about. I'm like, okay, poking, so they all rooting for him. Five there it is. Man, Hey, we appreciate you pulling

up and thanks for your time. Bro. So perfect