#43 - Wack 100

to Austin, Texas with Freddie Gibbs next week. He's going to do a big podcast based in Austin. I don't want to say who he's gonna be on with, well, very big podcast that's based in Austin, Texas. So I will be accompanying him because the person whose podcast it is I am extremely excited to meet. So yeah, hopefully we get Gibbs on for episode number fifty. What what episode is this? Who are we introducing? No? No, but like who who's who? We got? Like ten? We're sitting

on all right? So look, how let me drink this water? Oh let me just say this, man, you know what I mean? No, this would be whack. Yes, okay, okay, so this is whack. This is well. Look, we got a bunch of shit in the can. We got big U coming up. We gotta snow the product. We're gonna drop the Paul Stewart audio only episode SETI Hendrix might end up only being audio only because we can't find

the fucking video. And some dope freestyles coming up. We just dropped the o MBPS freestyle, which is Dope Wap Dad interview, which is going crazy. Shout out to Gap Dad. We're gonna talk to Whack one hundred on the podcast today.

Whack is a guy who you know, I've considered a homie for a long time, very polarizing guy in hip hop, someone who I respect, though, is someone who you know is definitely an executive manager and also extremely extremely quick to call out whatever the fuck he considers some bullshit on Instagram. So Whack one hundred is on the podcast and also got a shout out to our sponsors odd Socks. Make sure you check out odd socksofficial dot com keyword

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check it out. All right, let's get into the episode number whatever the fuck forty something featureing Whack one hundred. Let's go Boutle Cab Podcast special guests. Man, my guy, Whack one hundred is here. Yo, Man, that fucking duct tape on your mouth? keV. I don't like this ship, you know, Man, find the motherfucker did that? Man, it's a problem, Whack. You know it's crazy because you're not been wanting to get you on the podcast for a while. Yeah,

I know. So, I know that there's some some shit going on on the internet right now, but I want you to That's not why you're here. We're gonna talk about it. But you know, I've been wanting to have you on here for a long time. What I want to start is give me what you're like. I feel like there's many misconceptions about Whack. Yeah, well you know, I'm I'm kind of who I want you to know. Then, know who you are? You know, like with you every time. It's a phone called. It always been a cave. I

got something for you. Can you know what I'm saying, you know, because I really see the future in you, I don't you know, I think you on your rise. You I haven't even gotten nowhere near to what you know, where you're gonna becoming. I've always been of big on relationships, you know what I'm saying. I've always been big on you know, if you're in a position to do something for somebody to do it and don't keep count with it,

you know what I mean. Well, you know you're a lot of people don't know this, but you're one of the reasons I got hired in l a man exactly. I was in Tampa. You put the word in I called. I was in the meeting and they was Doc Winners and everybody they was putting, you know, putting together the structure of uh, the real ninety two three. Yeah what it even came And I was like, yo, you know what I mean. You know our boy Bootleg, we fucked with him, everybody fuck when he be fit, you know

what I mean? And ship you know, Doc, I put you online with him and yeah, you know it's crazy. Yeah, they couldn't at the time, they couldn't hire me because I was under contract. But it ended up working out. Yeah, it was under contract at the time. But you know that Seed was planning. I appreciate that you did. It was already doing. Do you remember when I was in Tampa you threatened to kill me. I gotta refresh, I

gotta refresh your memory on this. This was remember coming through No, no, no, no no. It was over the phone. So let me this is whenever people tell me crazy act stories. I'm like, I got one, and that this was after it was behind a game or something. So let me tell you what happened. I was out with Dante from you one one night. Oh yeah, Dante be

fucking roundt. So what happened was Dante's telling me about this Meek Mill record for game right, and He's like, Yo, this is about to be crazy whatever coming out there E one And I'm like cool. Maybe two hours later we're still out. I think we're out at the club or something. Some Twitter page tweets me at Bootleg keV leaked brand new game Meet Meal record with a link. I show it to Dante, I say, yo, there's this. This page is tweeting every DJ in the country. Right,

I'm like, is this it? And he's like, yes, screenshot that so I can send it to Whack. So he screenshot it and sent it to you and it's and if you read it out loud, it said at bootleg keV leaked brand new game meet Mill song. So the next day I get a call from you saying that I leaked your shit, and I'm like, bro, Whack. I was with Dante last night and that was the one time I got a bed shit roll downhill. I must

have got a call from Game. I don't know, but I was like, that page is tweeting everybody, like I don't know that. Everybody got to understand, like I probably understand like thirty percent of social media. Yeah, that was the one. You know what I'm saying, I'm still learning ship, Yeah, like you know what I mean, I'm still learning how

to hit a hat. I could how the research had to I got to ask my kids, you know what, Well, then what Dante did, because I was like, Dante, you got to fix this, bro, Like I was with it, like he's Dante's and Tampa, this is the motherfucker song leaked. Yeah, it was leaked, but I didn't leak it. It was something. You know, what I started finding out a lot of the labels was doing back then is they were servicing the ship overseas, and the overseas platform was always twenty

four hours. They had an odd platform. So what happened is once bloggers know that they're reaching over there grabbing it, and then it's over here because a lot of people don't know iTunes platform overseas, it's totally different than all over here. It's a whole other game. It's a whole nother game. But you know what, you know what's crazy. I but the next time I talked to you, it was like, I was like, it was like it never

happened because you know why this is. And I'm glad you said yeah, because the ship wasn't personal, was business. That's fair. Like I didn't. It wasn't a thing that Bootleg Cab. It was like, this is the situation this who did it? Address them? So probably when I called you the next time, it was probably it was like it was like nothing ever happened because I didn't. It wasn't in my mind, it wasn't a problem with Bootleg Cab. It was problem right here behind door number one got you.

You know what I'm saying. So that's what that was, because it's always been in love with you. You always know for sure it's back when cool and you know, you know, you're really a part of our coach, our culture. Everybody in the part of our culture, all the DJs and the part of our culture. People that you know you're gonna see all the time and not just see because you got to hit record. You know you're gonna see cav On. You know, I want to pull up on Jim Jones cave On to say, you know what

I'm saying, You're gonna see cab out. You're gonna see So I just ran into uh big screening. Uh yeah, I didn't seen you twice in the last couple of weeks. Fact and Melrose. Yeah you screening Jim Jones and friend Saul. You know what I mean. But you know you you know you're gonna pull up. That's why you and DJ Head made it such a great duo because he the same way you're gonna see him. He's yeah, for sure, like cav we got some new ship pull up. He pulling up to the studio. Cab didn't been in there

with thirty wolves. Yeah, he don't get you know what I'm saying. He gonna pull up by hisself, come in and that's what. Where the fuck are you from anywhere? Phoenix man? Yeah, yeah, that's why I always get Phoenix. I've been moving around though. You know the radio at the station down there, what's the homie name? Always Power ninety eight point three. The homie if you used to fly back to New Mexico to go home, Mike there you Mikey. Mike's still down there. Nah, he's in Boise.

He's he got Bois. Yeah, got you. Yeah, that's family man. Shout out to Mikey for But yeah, Phoenix man, let's get to the juicy. Listen, let's just get out. Let's get that out of the way. All right, man, listen right now people you you viral? Right now? When is this song coming out? And they mixing that? Sit down right now? So I got my producer, you know what I'm saying, uh, Swiss cheese. Yeah, So let's talk about

this man. You know what what I what I It's entertaining to me that at times you will speak on the ship that don't got nothing to do with you, but it stirs up a lot of shit. You know what. I really wasn't gonna say nothing at first, right talking about the Meek Mills situation. Yeah, but see what I don't like. I'm gonna call the spade a spade, right, whether it's in favor of me or not. Right. And it's like, what I've been noticing about this industry is

that people tended because of who you are. They sweep shit under the rug, but if the same from somebody else committed the same act, they're crucified. And I believe you know, hey, everybody gotta be held accountable for what they do, you know what I mean. Like, for instance, you know, I got mixed feelings about this little kid, you know what I mean, because yeah, he did what he did, but on the sixth nine, Yeah, on the same note, he shouldn't never been in position to do

what he did, you know what I mean. You know this thing we got in the streets, right, it ain't for everybody, And it's just not a free for all. It ain't like fucking magic mountain you show up by a ticking and get in. There's certain things you got to go through, certain things you got that has to be proven before somebody is allowed to come in, you know, and the fact that they allowed him to come in is with you know, him being inside of it is

what gave him information. You know, they chose to bring him into it. Once you brought him in and you allowed him to see certain things, you're discussing certain things, you know what I mean. He shouldn't have never had the information that he had when he got put up under that light, you know what I mean. Everything ain't for everybody, and I really think he was he was in Uh, he was in character the whole time. He

was using the block boys street cred. You know, everything about the kid just like what he said he was. You know that. You know, the the gay community has adopted the rainbow as as pretty much like yeah, they're flag right, the kid got rainbow head. I mean, we do the bath on everything about the kid. It totally defines you know, what they allowed him to do, you know what I mean, So already know what they did. They do what they always do. They press play on

the kid. They let the kid hear things that was going on and you know, behind his back and because he don't fall up under that script. But he don't fall up under that real cold no matter I can hear. Somebody can press play and showed me a dude running a train on my wife, and this the dude that killed my brother, and this this this the cold. Say, whatever it is is going on, I gotta deal with that. How I gotta deal with that. I don't deal with that through the law. I gotta keep my mouth shutting

when I get you handle it exactly. But again that's me and and I think that they put this kid in the situation that he shouldn't have been in, and what he did was he just went back to who he really was. He took the costume off. So it's it's I got mixed emotions that what we call this kid to snitch because I believe civilians don't snitch. They tell the truth. So we're looking. I mean, they don't snitch,

they tell the truth. They put this dude in this situation that he shouldn't have been in, right, so he did what he did. And I believe even right down today, Uh, he uses what he does as a marketing tool because he has no obligation to the politics of the streets. He has none. He don't care how it goes. He just you know, a little kid playing and doodling, and it's and he is allowed, they allowing it to happen, you know what I mean. You know, I think he got a death wish. I think he want to go

out to Martyl one day. You know, it's funny because because that's what I like being. Had always had these discussions about like that word snitching, right, and it applies. They could never be a snitch because because we are not in that world. My son, my son is not a game member, right, he's a civilian. He's taught to tell the truth. Civilians and people who live by that

code are such total different things. You can't like even with this music game, right, And I gotta tell people right when they say, Yo, wack man on some real g shit. Man, these motherfucking DJs, motherfuckers, and these bills they ain't keep it. Really, look at this this baggy shit they doing all this shit. I'm like, yo, bro, check this out. Can they bring the things they doing the building to the projects? Hell no, I said, because

it's rules and regulations that we created in the projects. Right, Okay, great? Check Once upon a time, gods like you and gods like me. We weren't allowed in the building. So if you think that you're gonna go in the building and force those people that be conducting business the way they've been conducting business for fifty sixty seventy years to adapt to all way of conducting business, you sadly mistaken. It ain't on work like that. You gotta find equal medium.

You know, the industry is a bullshit it's a bullshit party. People will see you, hey, hey, yeah, yeah, let's make it out. Yeah, let's put it together. What happens all the time a week? Does that? They be like, then, I don't fuck with that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. That's just what it is, right, that has to happen to you five six times away. But I put it like this, out of every twenty people that do that, right, if I get one or two that live up to

what they say, that's great. I take those one and two, I plug them in to all the other one and twos, and then I create my team like that. It takes time to create a team in this industry. Of course, that's real shit. So you said earlier you like to call a spade a spade, So why why did you feel the need to call out media because like, for instance, right, I look at six nine and I'm like, okay, you just you violated did this? Did that? Right? That's it, right,

I'm not pressing who's promoted six nine. I'm not pressing academics. Its all you know, popping up on club outs and shit like you know, cousin. Motherfucker's like you you know, supporting this, this, this you need to be and all this. So they definitely pressed him. I'm not doing I'm not doing all that right. Okay, you asked me your dude violated. Some of them people are my comrades. That's in jail.

You know what I'm saying, shout out to nuke that you know some of them dudes just is I know personally, but I'm never It's never came out of my mouth that his own. When we catch your motherfucking asks what it's gonna be, right, I hate to say it. Six nine made history again because the prey pulled up on the predator, and that's unheard of. See, usually the predator controls the narrative because he can talk that shit and deep down inside he know he ain't gonna do nothing right.

So what he does is if he know his prey is over there, he just don't go over there. He stays away from him. So it's never a situation. In this situation, the prey pulled up on the predator, and how that's supposed to work once you didn't set the stage and say it's on, you're gonna dress the motherfucker when they see you when they pull up on you. Right, hey, bro with six skinheads have pulled up on me and called me, and I could have said, oh, it's six of them, and I stayed in the car and got on.

You know what a lot of people would have said, Oh what do y'all expect? It's six of them. But see the rules and code of the streets where I come from. Whether it's in favor or not in favor, you gotta handle your business, win, lose a draw. It been situation where it's more of us than them. It been situation where it's even steven. It's been a situation where was it's me by myself. I have to remain

who I'm supposed to be. So on the flip side, when that man pulled up with his squad, and let's for the note, little dude, ain't no house arrest no more. There's no police with that, dude. I know a few of them dudes. They're not police, right, and you in Florida, it's standing your ground. The fact we all know about that. So at the end of the day, the whole situation, people saying, oh me gonna go to jail, Hey little

check this out. If you are worried about concerning yourself what jail or or in the backlash of it, then don't speak on it. Don't involve yourself to that capacity to where you pressing this dude and pressing people around this dude. Say the dudes are right, I don't gree with what the fuck he did, and keep it moving. But you set the stage to where it's song. When Meek and Game was going at it right when we bump its home, they say, yo, y'all can't do that,

showing Philly. We be there at seven o'clock, two Bustlos deep firing the cars deep. Well, it's gonna beat whatever it's gonna be. And we went and had a cheese steak afterwards. We see you in song. Ain't no talking, ain't none of that. This is the irrational rules. We live by right, So you can't okay today in the good day because I might get caught. Nah, motherfucker, this is what this is. You sign up for this. You gotta take what come with that? Okay, now look it's here,

his squad pull up. It ain't no talking. Get off. That's it. That's how that go. If you gotta a squad with you that ain't gonna move with you, then maybe you know, change them up because they had no problem. Off on Safari. They chased that man down like a dog. And he ain't did no Instagram ship, he ain't. He ain't called you no pussy, he ain't called you nothing. You know, Ship. You took his woman while you mad at him, you know what I'm saying. So you had

no problem. You know you can't be I call a selective politicking. You want to pick and choose when you want to do this and do this and do that. Nah. So let me ask you this Devil's advocate. Let's say Meeks evolved as a as a as a professional, as a as a human, as a as a action supposed to represent that, you know what I'm saying, It's supposed to represent that. Okay, for instance, Uh, uh, what's my man my sign? My son speaks strongly against six Now

he's a fucking rat boy. My son going to a club, he don't want to hear the music all that. But you never heard my son say when I catch this little motherfucker, this is what this is. Because my son is a community leader now, like you know what I'm saying. But he a real street again. So if my sign was to walk in the same building, room six nine, and I'm not expecting my sign to do ship you're saying,

unless that man becomes a threat. Because the man put that out there, put that out there, you say, this is what it is. Yeah, I got you like like he put it out there. You're whack. I want I want you to pull up on me. Okay, cool, hold them words, because see I'm not six nine. I'm gonna force you to get out. You're gonna have to get down your squad, your team, your whatever it is because me. You said that. Now, you said that all I did

was to dress your actions with this kid. Right. You chose to get away from Matt and said, well, you know, and I've seen you meet like two three times, I've seen you. You know you called me to squash the game beef. I'll let you in Game do that. You know what I mean. Game was a gentleman about it. He said, look, I'm going a different way of my life. I just got out. I don't want to be beefing with nobody. Game said. We said, I ain't no bully, homie.

If that's your energy, it's cool. Keep my name out your mouth, keep it respectful. Me good, and he kept it moving. I've seen you two three times BT weekend. You shook my hand. You're making comments about Nipsey my nigga. That's kind of you, a Philly dude. You know what I'm saying. I don't know what you're talking about, the Nipsy shit, right, but I've seen you since the Nipsy

shit right, face to face. All you had to do, and anybody know, all you gotta do is show me any signs of aggression to say what you're gonna say, right, and we're gonna get to it. I got attorneys and bail bondsman and my wife that been with me thirty years. You know what to do. I'm gonna go in there, go to sleep, do a couple of pushups, come home. But then that's what that is, right, but you know, don't put that out there that that's what it is. And then when it comes at you, you go to

talking about, oh, you're trying to send me to jail. Well, you know what, that's what happens when you agitate violence and disrespecting anybody rat no rat, gay, not gay, punk no punk. If you disrespect somebody in the back of your head, you gotta expect something might happen, even if they don't commit to act. The bags make things happen, and it's just real shit. So if you are an advocate of nonviolence, then you shouldn't in the world. You

shouldn't even be addressing it. I don't even say nothing about it because ultimately it's a bunch of New York dudes. It's in jail. That ain't Philly business. That's facts, and that's all that was. You know, he turned into a personal thing. I just call a spade a spade. Yeah, I mean I think that you know, Meek obviously, I think you know he wants to control then narrative and he wanted he wants the rules to be his rules. But Meek, you ain't you been in the game like

you like you're like thirty three years thirty four years old. Bro, Yeah you ain't. You ain't nobody to dictate the control the rules that have been there before you. Well, I was gonna say I think some people might say, were like, whack, why even call Meek out in that? What do you? I mean you could just hear when I started to see people started to say, oh because of who Meek is. You know, he didn't not no no, no, no no.

Let me remind everybody press play on this song. He didn't kill three hundred niggas in first ten verses talking. You know that that's what it is. You at this kid. You attacking people around this kid, And if that's what you want to do, I respect it. But that kid came out. You're supposed to handle your business. I would hope that from this point on Meek because of you know how what he's saying. He's an advocate of peace and non violence. Doning address shit that that brings violence.

Let somebody else do that, you know. I mean, look, if you think of like someone like jay Z right and here jay Z they pivoted away. I mean, if you listen to Jay's early ship. Once Jay became that guy his music, and that even when him and Nas weren't at it, it was in the music. You never heard jay Z do interviews saying when I catch NAS's own right right, right left with music, that was music.

That's what that was. A minute you come away from music and go to talking about what is gonna be right, and you got you got to stand up on that, which is what me did with with Siyah. You know, at the end of the day, I don't want to see nothing. Look, I had nothing personal against me nothing. I didn't talk to the dude on the phone. He didn't did music with Chuck since then in my studio right real ship. He didn't been right here with us.

But you know, I'm a I'm a spade guy, and all my comrades know that when you do something that's I have killed him out of pocket. I'm gonna call you and I'm not gonna my son. Ain't do some ship and I'm out here to tell you, son, that's some punk shit. You just did what you're doing, that's my son. I'm gonna say, well, that's my son. You know, people are there, they have opinion about everybody else, but as soon as it's they people. They want to kind

of like sweep under rut. That ain't how I moved. I'm gonna call the spade a spade. Bro. You know what I'm saying. You're doing some function. You're doing some function, You're doing some real ship. You're doing some real ship. And that's just what it is. Nothing personal, bro, It's just that's the polities of the situation. They broke you was talking that ship dude pulled up on you. It's you should have went what you do. I think that the other thing too, is and if you know my squad,

Aldam motherfucker pulled up on us. We're going. We didn't have the Samoans, we didn't have all kind of ship pulled up on us. Your track record is on video for years. That's just like broke. Hey, Stitch just pulled up nine police in Miami. I got tazed hit me the first time I got up. They had to hit me again. It's just what it is. I mean, death road days, broke like squads pull up. I swear to God up, shout out the big faith from Long Beach Insae.

It just come on from doing like ten fifteen years, right, we go to the SA Monica he was there on the after party. They in there, we rolled in. We locked up like wild bulls. It was like fifty sixty o us ain't no. It was police, all kind of shit, security pulling guns, y'all do what y'all do. But we know it's on on site. You know what I'm saying. I watched Faide put in major work and he was on the other side of it. I'm watching Faith knock

motherfuckers out. That's with me. I'm seeing it, so I respect the man's gangster, whether he's with me or not. I'm gonna call a spade a spade, but that's what that is. Nowadays, we pull up, they see us, we see them. It's all love, it's no problems. But when you established it's a problem in his own like that, when it come at you, you gotta deal with it. Unfortunately, certain things come with that. Sometimes it's depth, sometimes it's jail.

Sometimes you injured. You might win, you might lose. If not, don't fuck with it, leave it alone. Do you think that because you're obviously a CEO, you're you're an executive, you're one of the most successful independent motherfucker in this rapt And I got a ged straight up. I was gonna say, do you think at certain what point in time do you think some of this shit is just beneath you? Whack? What you gotta understand, by the way, it's entertaining, because I really I do enjoy a time

like your ig be very entertaining. Understand, as long as I'm in this music industry, this music industry, right, and even the execs to tell you, right, the X is in the bill. You don't see the UMG execs and the Sony execs coming out of here into the streets to scout nobody. Right. They leave it up to people like me to go scout them and then bring them back to the building. Right. So it's just like you know, preparing for a trip. You're going into the jungle, right,

you know, when when can you change? I gotta respect the laws and the rules of the jungle, and the bear over there, the snake over there, the lines over there. So for Whack to say, you know, after all these years I've been a part of this thing, well you know what it's beneath me. I just mean a social media aspect, well, well, you know, social media is like a coloring book to me. I don't care about it, right, you gonna pull up all the new artists I signed.

They got a blue check. No, I got a blue check, because why I got him a blue check? Whack, don't got a blue check. I don't care about it, like it's a coloring book. They can shut that shit down. I was who I was before fucking social media. You know, we'd have had social media back. Can you imagine we had social media back on a game and fifty was beefing or the death row time. I think about it all the time. She was crazy. So a lot of these kids understand. Look, we were doing some other shit

way before this shit. So it's like, but dude needed to be a dress and I really think on some real shit, I really think I helped him become a better person because I think in the near future, when things come up, if it doesn't directly involve me, he won't speak on it. I think he's gonna leave that alone. Which which again, so you know I might have if you look at it another way, you know I might have did him a favor because he might have put his nose in some other ship that led to some

other ship. That's fair talk about you know, you obviously for people who don't know you originally when you you got out of jail, the first artist that you worked with, uh was the first art I worked directly with my project. That was ray J. That was was that around the Sexy can I era. That was my project. So that was like peak ray J. That me and me, Me Shaquille O'Neill and at that time sug and I. I said, whack, you need to go rebuild with our tore down, get

the New York plugs right. And that's when I met Kay Slay All Star Weekend in Vegas and me and Kate Slay started politicing and we created this movement called Bridging the Gap. Go to YouTube and pull it up. You'll see. I would bring Slay out here, take him to all the neighborhoods, crips and bloods, both sides, and he would work with artists and then I would send artists out there with them and he would do their mixtapes,

put them on the show. J Malone, Jay Rock, k Doting a Bridge from Nipsey, all that, all them dudes. First time on New York Radio was Wax situation with k Slay, the Drama King, Right, Yeah, he would take them out there. We'll do the thing with him, and then Slayer send artists out there you wanted to do videos. So we was crossing over in each other's culture, making it safe again. So it was cool because at one time it was on you know what I mean, we

get caught out there slipping. They was at us and it was the same thing. So it was that like six o seven. I was like, I mess Slay about five and then we did this ray J project O six o seven kse Slay actually and art that whole project. We leaked Sexy cannot behind the label's back listen, kse Slay is. I used to make a lot of your bootlet cav That's how I got my name, but slanging mixtapes at the Swaman when I seventeen, big brother mentor teacher,

We argue, we fuss, fight, we do everything. Ship. I live across the street from you and in Jersey, I gotta spot on. And in respect to his, uh just relationships with the porn bitches, because I would always see all the magazine, Straight magazine, all the porn bitches on the cover, always on the Shape forty five shows. Yeah, definitely, So you know, I gotta, you know, I do this music thing because I feel like that's a need for me here because a lot of these kids is like

nobody's gonna run the field with them. Well, I feel like you obviously went from ray J and then you know, working with Game, I feel like in the last four or five years though, you really hit your stride as an executive. Find a new talent, you know, because that's you know, ray J was already someone we knew, you know when you came along, and obviously was he hit the peak of his career with you. Game already established name, but you've shown people that that's on the shelf. Game

was this was this the Gaffing era? Yeah, they tried to shove Game right after he figured probably about the Jesus Peace ere he owed him another eye and they tried to put him on the shelf. Wow. And that's when we went to Miami and cooland Drey shout out to Cooling Dra. They opened up their studio for us for like two months. He went in and started recording. I just I was in and out. I was jumping on planes and getting releases here and doing this here

and doing that. Then find another situation here. That's what you've seen. Year the Wolf came in, and right after Year in the Wholf, I dropped documentary two and two point five a double sea. I remember Year the Wolf was an obligation doing negotiation that I had to do to get him. Wasn't that more like a compilation or was supposed to be right? I had to do that

to release him. He put all this everything into the doc two in two point five, So the game was like he was in one of those contracts with them there ten years and they tried to shelf him, and I just kind of used my resources and who I was and what should taught me to do and get him out of that. Well that like when you say

what should taught you to do? We think of some of those should night antics that might have Well, you know, I don't think it was anti you know, I think Sugar gets to the shortened of the stick because the persona. But if you was to ask Jo to see, if you was to ask you know, Mary Jay, of you was asked the kid that did the ice ice Baby beat about Sug's business, They'll tell you all he did was make the wrong right, you know what I mean?

Sug turned thirty cents. I mean the album selling for ten dollars and the artists getting thirty cents off the saide was crazy to thirty percent, right, He turned thirty cents, which was the old motown ship and all the old day shit right to thirty percent. So now you're thirty cents and it don't be a group like the alcoholics reduce ten cent apiece. Now he turned that to three dollars, right. So, and I've always seen you try to deal with things

the right way out the box. But unfortunately, even in America, has been proven. You know, our world we come from in these violence, that's what people respect, you know what I mean? I hate to say it, You know what I mean? Like if you're walking down the street you see a yard that says beware a dog, and then another yard with the gate open, and you done made a decision. You going to somebody backyard. The mere thought of that dog back there says you're gonna go on it.

You're gonna go with the gate over. You know what I'm saying That that's just the world we come from. It's a reason why you know, a childa won't launch on us, and we won't launch on it. We owe them people out of money. You know that it's the threat of the violence that could happen. So you know, sometimes when you've exhausted everything else, you know you gotta go another way with it. And he only went there

if you force him to go there. Other than that, he was very protective of his family, and he was very protective of his employe ease as well as his well as his artists, you know what I mean talking about Game. I feel like somehow in history Game has ended up underrated because when we think of Game and his consistency with just putting out bodies of work that are like front to back, I feel like part of it is fault. Part of is not because Game, believe

it or not. He was in it for the passion of rap, the passion of being the advocate of voice for the streets. He wasn't in it for the superstardom, right. You know, I bring Game a deal and he told me why you had to show away. I'll be on every billboard, every goddamn bus, every motion picture. Man, Listen, I ain't that. That's not what I want. I want to be able to go places. Even though you know he's crazy as hell. He still gets up and moves around like he's normal. But like, bro, he's stood up

still with Steven Spielberg twice. Wow, real shit. Like Game never wanted the superstardom. He'll tell you that, Like he never wanted that, Like you know, so if if he would have wanted that, he could. It's a lot of things that he turned down. Eighteen movie, that was his role. He's like, oh, wow, you know it was all kind of shit. The game, the shoot there, he walked away from that. They didn't walk away from him. Wow, you know what I mean. They're like, man, you gotta wear

this shit every time on stage. You're like, yo, bro, I'm gonna wear with the game, want to wear it, but I feel like wearing this out wear it. Other than that, I'm also Chuck Taylor gonna put these all stars on my feet. Right. So it was like Game never, you know, wanted that stardom, that superstardom. Like he didn't shut me down millions of times, like ship that we do this at least of this, at least that, at least of this. He like that, ain't well, I want

let's let's stick to the music. Let me go and make another dope album. Well, let me do this too, a tribute to that that that Now, let me make another dope alblem. Let me stay focused on, you know, being a messenger to the people from the streets. So that's what that boy? What is uh? What's the other? You know, there's there. There's been all this to discussion over the years. I remember you put fifty in game

together and that was the Monster. I remember seeing that picture and it was like, yo, this is crazy, Like I just be thinking, like how different the history of our three times? Three times I got him together, you know. But my team out there, BPE teammate Dollar Relatives was at the time was fifty. He had a security brother named Monster, a real solid dude. And through our relationship, I was able to have conversation with fifty in our backyard and I kind of it was crazy because I

went to fifty. We was in was the aods over there on Monday night. We in there, fifty in there. You know, gangs said y'all need to holland fifty. You know, once you tell me you want to do something, he spoiled. You know, I got to make make it happen. So I go over there, come in Monster, clear it up, Hollo, fifty, he trust me, Big Game. When I holler at you like wa saying the ride environment you deep, we deep, it's gonna turn into something. I said, Now I'm gonna

bring Game over here to you. So you're gonna bring him over here just y'all. So I said, yeah, just us too. I said, I'm gonna stand behind you and Monster gonna stand behind Game and y'all do some funny shit. You had a disadvantage, Masa. You would have set up definitely would it. And that's when you saw them. I think Charisma shout out to Charisma was djaing that night and they talked and you know whatever they was talking about and shook hands and laughed and giggled a little bit,

and then you know it was cool. Yeah. I just think like that's one of the like like vivid memories in hip hop history, like high school when the documentary, Like the first time I heard How We Do was like, that's one of my favorite songs ever, And I just like, like, how different would hip hop have been had that conflict

never happened? Definitely definitely crazy movement. You know, Game had his reasons and Fifty had his reasons, and you know, some of it might have been business, some of it might have been maybe some reasons of selfishness, and the reasons of ego. Yeah, you know, I really think that it was a situation where it was teaching student and I think out of the whole g Unit crew, and you know, shout out to Tony Yayo, that's a real comrade of mind. I think Game was a teacher in

the making, you know what I mean. And if somebody is gonna come out of that shell, you can't keep him there too long. And then Fifty, being the general minded guy he is, he run his ship with an iron fist. So I think it was a clash going on. And before fifty kind of realized it, Game kind of scene that it's this is gonna restrict me. I gotta I gotta get away from this, and and and and

that's how that went, you know what I mean. But nevertheless, they both gave hip hop and sustance we needed because hey, three the bars are running fifty fifty fifty allowed that collaboration to happen. And then through it all, you know what I mean, they was able as men, you know, to kind of like come back together and show that that mutual respect. One do you think like the Jimmy Henschman like element of that dynamic was like like like maybe added to that divide a bit. Well, Jimmy Henchman

was needed at the time. You know what I mean, you got the biggest anything you can be in. I always say the two biggest rappers of all times. A peak snoop that would that Jimmy Henchman element was what gave Game his edge because Pop Ru was gonna stand behind him out here on the West Coast, and then he had part of his head security, uh Bonnie Hunters to tie and Bonnie Hunters and uh chief Magic from

aight eight avalon. So it was a mixture of everything we represented out here standing with him anyway, right, So that Jimmy Hinchman element kind of gave Game the edge, like that extended clip, because Jimmy Hinchman was who he was in New York, right. So now you look up and Jimmy Hinchman's politists got Game and a big ass billboard in middle south side Queens, right, and Game lands in New York because he got to come to New York. Jimmy Henchman squad is there the movement around to protect him.

So you know, I don't Jimmy. Jimmy did what he was posed to do, and he did this ship well, he did it great, you know, and he stood with Game as Game still with him. So I don't take nothing from Jimmy. You know, Jimmy was a solid dude. Uh. He got a situation himself over there where some paperwork going on, and he gonna deal with that. He gotta deal with that. But what he did for Game, Jimmy,

we did right by him. He did right by It's funny because there was this big uproar about people being mad that Game said that he thinks he's the greatest rapper ever come out of Compson, And I'm like, he's supposed to say that, like like well because he was on he was on Clubhouse and and and what he's what he said about, like, Yo, I'm the hardest ever

come out of Comps. I'm gonna tell you listen, I'm gonna kind of give you some insight on that, right because first thing people are gonna think is Kendrick Lamar Well. I personally think Kendrick as from a fan and I think I think Game's right there. I'm gonna tell y'all, but Game should say that, right, I'm gonna tell you why he says that. Before it was a Kendrick Lamar was a Kat, right, the kid Katt Now we go back to the game fifty situation, was a student of Games.

Now took him on tour LX door. Anybody knew who he was, and all this right was up Kate out, as humble as he is, he probably would never answer the question because I really think Kate is in a lane of his own, a mountain of his own. You talking two different type of rappers. Kut is a legend. My book is coming out the West Coast, and he still got a whole lot of life in him. Shout out to TD, top Dog and the whole family over there.

But Game is always he's like, like, you won't catch You can't get Top Dog to say, I'm a bigger record executan sug Knight and he's moved some numbers, right, because sug Knight was a teacher to us all. He's somebody we watched it, we talked to that, we consulted. Right. As big as top Dog is, he won't say that right, And he got some real stats that he can stand on.

So when it comes to Game, when he sees Kendrick, no matter how big he gets, its kind of like my son, my son taller than me, getting bigger than me, that's still my son. I'm gonna respect him because he's my son. He's a product of me. Not to say Game bill Kendrick, but he was a vital tool and the growth of Kendrick well, I mean, I remember that that moment, that moment on stage when Kendrick officially got past the torch, when Kendrick cryn't even have to do that,

that was a big moment. Listen, snoop there, stoop already he's of course, you know, he ain't even rapped on rap his eye coming right cube everybody there at the time. Game was still grinding. But Game did that because this is one of his mans. You know what I'm saying. I want to see you grow, you know what I mean. So he's never gonna itself behind Kendrick, And I don't

think Kendrick will ever put itself ahead of Game. I think it's really a mutual respect to the teacher student thing to you know, the big homie, little homie type type situation, as if I don't think Kendrick will ever talk down on j Rock. Of course not because he was once j Rock's hype man. Now we look at numbers, we'll say, oh, Kendricks and j Rock, right, But without that j Rock element, what j Rock is the first

guy is to kick the whole shit off. Went out that j Rock element, right, they would there wouldn't have been that initial seeding for nurturing of Kendrick Lamar. You know what I'm saying. So it's certain things that people just not gonna say, whack. I want, you know, history behind I look up to you in a lot of different ways, but I know when it comes to finances, investing, certain types of financial literacy, things that you're very good with.

You know, you had explained to me something kind of like a life hack, how to use your credit and your and credit cards to help Oh, I was giving you the American expresses. He was giving me some game I wanted to I thought that that was it. Could you share that with everybody? Because I feel like it's a lot of people something super practical. People tell you a lot of people to creditors, it's kind of like they want to put you in a situation that you can't get out of, right, so you got to know

how to manipulate them, right. And first and foremost, let me say shout out to my my financial advisor, who has enhanced my intelligence. Travis Wilson tried for the stars on Instagram. That's my financial guy. He's great with numbers, he's at He's enhanced everything that I've known times a million. Right.

But like, if you got credit cards, right, you got a card here, it's you know, five thousand dollars, right, and you got five dolli dollars of bills, right, I'm gonna tell you pay your bills with your credit card, right, and then money that you was gonna use from your bank account pay your credit card back. So what the credit is gonna say is, oh shit, okay, increasing you ten, right, pay the same five and keep doing it. You'll look up.

I got credit cards in my pocket right now. I can literally go buy Rose Royce right now, no problem because everything I do instead of using my primary bank account, right, I use the credit card, and I put the money back on the bank account, and you build credit into all my cast is in the streets. I'm gonna keep it real with you. This is the way I think. In my pocket, I probably got about four or five millions of credit cards, right that if I want to today,

I can go pull that cash down. Right, So I think business and I think street shit, get weird, to get funny. I can look what they can get on whatever you're gonna put on my credit. It's cool because if it's that bad, when they catch me, it ain't gonna matter anyway, right right, if it's that bad, and I can't use a credit card because that's a paper trail,

but I can work off this cast. So all my street guard, y'all, y'all take and keep that in effect, right, but U and then keep your keep your credit at like a twenty five percent utilization. Yeah yeah, you got a thousand dollar of a limit, you know, don't never pay it off. Pay it down to two fifty, you know what I mean, because that would help your credit score, you know. And then real estate, man, you know, real

estate is always great. Always invests in real estate. Don't be scared to buy real estate because the down payments like it's I can say it's account. It's still there. That's why I try to tell people like. People who don't understand, like they'll be like man like. I always tell people to look at real estate, not even one that you live in, but but just look at it as your bank instead of keeping the banking you know, your checking account. It's in that crib. You can pull

that out at any time. The only the best part about it is you get positive cash flow on homes bro that I remember, I haven't paid one hundred and ten thousand. I go check they worth six one hundred thousand dollars. How many houses do you own? I mean, or you know if you do? Right now, I'm down to like thirteen. I used to be like twenty three A liquidated when the away shit here. Of course got off a few of them. But you know, real estate

is good. Land is good too as well. Of course, sometimes you can go to the city hall and then look at the ten year projection and they'll tell you what we're looking into a Walmart here, shopping center here, and it's like empty land. Go buy the land and getting away have you? How how how yeah they you know around it? Or they gotta buy you. They gotta buy you out. That's some real shit, you know what I'm saying how much of them? Like you know when it comes to just being a source of knowledge for

guys like blue Face. I know because I remember the first time I'm at blue Face. I think you and your wife were taking him to look at houses like the day be Bro. I made sure blue Face was a homeowner. The first sixty days he was signed to me, he had a four to thirty fighter score, got his credit up me and Travis about a seven twenty seven thirty. He brought his first home in his name, his aim only no co signers. He played, you know, a million five or so forth, you know what I mean. And

then seven eight months later, tax issues. So I wouldn't put into another home, rut another home, you know what I mean, paid like a million two for that. So you know, I'm gonna make sure my artists are all homeowners. I brought him his first car force me and Bird mean did that, you know what I mean? So he didn't have to go in his pocket, you know, the first watches and rings. You know, I do those things for my artists cause I want to see him win.

Is there ever an instance, because you know there's there's sometimes with rappers, there's tax issues or there's legal shit where you've stepped in and been like, yo, it's in my name, so you're safe, because you know, I feel like there's well, I always protect my artists. Nothing's ever in their name anyway, you know what I mean. I don't even pay him in their name. First thing I do when I signed him is I buy him with court put it in your name. I set up a corporation.

This is all in the LLC. They can't touch it. It's theirs. But I've never paid any of my artists direct. I've always paid corporation. I set to that form. So I'm I'm always teaching my artists, you know, how to

protect themselves, and I'm setting them up. Yeah. I think it's the game people need because medical Like when I saw Blueface, medical insurance, you know, life insurance, all these things and things that I went out and made sure that that he had you know, life insurance and his car insurances, and make sure he was he was protected. That's just what I do, because it's kind of like a you know, a father thing with me too as well. You know, I want to see everything and anything abround me.

Win I'm gonna get old one day I'm gonna need somebody to push that wheelchair block or two every now and then, you know what I mean. And I want people to remember, you know, I'm an overdue before I underdo. So I live in the valley. I live kind of sun Valley. Essentially been to Pacoima a bunch to get great Mexican food. I think that can you kind of break down the difference between coming up in the valley, because I feel like the valley is kind of like

LA's kind of like step brother, what a valley? You got the valley right, and you got you know, you got those two teen babies, right, you got Pacoima, you got it's like Panoram City and all that around there. Right then you have like Woolen Hills and chest Worth

and all that. Right. I never even knew how to get over there till I was like twenty one, right right, anything pretty much crossed Rosco on the four five and then you know that one eighteen that being shot on up to Glenos Boulevard on around the Highs one or two ten. That's kind of our pocket. If you go over there, you're fined about four or five projects, you know what I mean. If I blindfold you and took you from South Central and took the blindfold off when

I got you to Pacoima. You wouldn't know the difference. Listen, when I first moved out here, I went to buy something off offer up and I had no idea about like like I was like, went to percoinment. I was like, oh shit, it's real over here. The only difference is when you're dealing with South Central Compton, Washington, LA. Is that the amount the gangs. Right, there's more gangs than

these areas, right, so do the politics ever cross. It's a little more dangerous for us now today because we're pretty much the only black gang over there, and with all the racial tension, we're surrounded by Hispanic gangs. Right, So now that's the internal beasts. When I grew up, we shared the projects together, you know what I mean. We wouldn't let the enemies get in through the through the back, and they wouldn't let the crips come through

through the front. Right now, it's kind of like that generation. Now they're at each other's throat. So that's the difference between when you're dealing with the greater South Central Washing Englewood. There gangs and more it's more of them. You know, you go across the street, you enemy across the street, and this is this, and that we kind of had

the liberty of controlling our ship out there. And and even that was a problem in our her because the drug trade was so great, people coming out there trying to take over blocks and now were going at it with games from La and because they didn't know we was there until they found out. You know, y'all got to get up out of here. And then there's like Tohunga and Sunland, which is where a bunch of the biker gangs and ship where a lot of white people

angels and ship those angels and ship like. That's a whole another element that we had to deal with as kids, because boy, they catch you slipping late. Now it was gonna be a situation. But then you had once you got the chess word. Canoga Park and even parts of Kunoga Park is rare because you got a lot of Hispanic gangs over there. Willett Hill, I didn't know what the fuck Calabasas was until like two thousand and eight.

That's some real shit. I didn't know what that ship. Well, we didn't go over there so year valley people think to paning them all and all that because they come in and they go left, they going at one on one. But I think it's like that strip. It's like Sun Valley, pacoimaus San Fernando on the Panorama City because the valley is just all the valley is. If you come on the four or five freeway right, you know, it's when you get to the top and you start coming down.

The valley is just a city that's surrounded by the mountains. Yep, that's all by definition. If you sit in l A and look as far as you can see, you won't see the mountains. So it's kind of like even at San Gravel Valley area passing in, you know, the cities that's surrounded by by mountains, so that that's really all it is. But we got on little pocket over there. You know, it's been there forty some years away. We've

been into it. You know a lot of people from la and from down south migrated that way because it was foreign country back then, and then it just took like any place else, it turns in with it turned you look at you do the research on cops George bush Lett and cop that it's crazy. I didn't know George Bush. Let you know what I'm saying. I know it started off. A lot of people didn't move out on the Black Star Company. So that what it is.

Talk to me, because you know, I think that you've been h you know, we've had a very interesting last four or five years in our country as far as just racial tension relations. I think you know, Trump being president magnified a lot of stuff that was already there, and Big Homie was in office. Yeah, right, and you recently had a situation where you knocked too motherfuckers out

on video. I mean, but you know that, like I wake up every day in my life expecting something to go wrong, prayer for the worst, I hope for the best of prepared for the worst. So it's like, you know, that's why I tell our people like, man, it's some good people in this world. There's some crazy ass people in this world. You know, some people over there came back from the ward's you know gone, it's some it's you know, believe it or not, on those worst Nigga

did away with long term mental health care. So a lot of these people at the end of these freeways, in these parking lots. They could really get away with murder, right, they're gonna lock them over forty eight hours and let them go. So you know, it's not even just a gang element with me. It's just a worldly element that we live in because you never know if you're gonna be in a restaurant, dude gonna stand We naturally stand up in the movies starts shooting, so you gotta really

pay attention. You can't live in the world that we live in, happy go lucky. It's always some shit going on, but it's a drug driver, whether it's a kid running out. And what happened that day though where where ible was in line bullshit and I was trying to get me a damn bot with avocado seasoned fries and the raspberry ice. Okay, okay, and the little dude was behind me. You know, they smoke rubbers in these little dogs charges to challenge your cars, So I kind of leaned out and asked, I don't

want you to lose control of your car. He was a skinhead dude too, but he was cool. He like I ain't cool, no problem. Two dudes on the pickup said, mind you been this nigger now? Once again watched it back to the meet meal situation. It's five, six of them in the parking lot. I could have said it was six of them, and it was one to me, so I left. Nah, the politics I come from, they just so happened to catch me on the day. Got I by myself. I gotta get out. This is what

this is. I could have pulled out in the world, would have never known. Those white dudes ain't on social media. They probably know who I was, but the politics embedded in me, I gotta get out. However it turned out. I don't know if they got knives on them, guns, I don't know what they got on them. I didn't even realize it was three four more over there in the corner. As you've seen them walk up, you know what I'm saying. So it's kind of I ain't even

with that. I was more of them on the deepense thing. I couldn't really attack like I wanted to because I saw them walking up, so I had to get back to the vehicle, you know, in case it went somewhere else. Right. So that's just what it is, bro. And you know I'm the first one to tell you. Kids don't gain bang, right, it's some irrational ship that won't get you nowhere. There's no retirement plan, you know what I mean. Your homeboy's

gonna hate on you when you go to jail. They gonna tell your girlfriend about your other bra and they gonna be at her too, and that something I'm gonna tell on you and all that. Right. Be a civilian, be able to live life the worldly way, be able to say, you know what, let me put off you know what, let me go make a report that that's

the peaceful way. Cause it's ship that we under. Its irrational, is unreasonable, and it's dangerous and I don't wish it on nobody, but it's like this, it's just what it is with me. I chose it, so I got to stand in it. You know, people say, whack man, what you know? You you this age and you still man, I've never seen a Christian retirement. This ain't no, this is not a funny game thing. To me, this ship for real, this is this is this is my way

of life. Hey man. You know what I really admire about you is the relationship you got with your wife. That's thirty years. I think that, you know, I've never seen any I just you know, she's like your partner. Bro. Yeah, she's the opposite of me, but she is me and she deals with all the whack shit she she's with. She didn't been with me since we've been fourteen, Bro, she didn't see some ship. She was with me when I earned the name whack. You know, whack in my

age has been some other ship today. It means what it means. You know what I mean, you had to earn that name. But yeah, as a kid, it was like you whack up, mother fucker, you know. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So it's looking so yeah, she's my balance. Yeah, Like like how important is that to have to you know? Because my wife is a woman like me, I'll be up on the alcatraz. She's my balance. She she's gonna talk some since, she's gonna give me another way of looking at it. You know, she's not

scared of me. She understands me, you know what I mean. So it's like, and you need that, and then you definitely want somebody that you feel you can't live without. So that's what kind of controls that anger. Because any real ol G that come up banging in these streets, all of us have an anger problem. That's what fuels the viciousness, you know what I'm saying. So you need something that to think about, whether it's her, the children,

you know what I mean, things like that. You gotta have something to think about to to bring you down, you know, I mean, she's my motivation. Man. She you know, she's my biggest fan. She cheers me all. You know,

she lets me know how smart she thinks. You know, men need that, would need that encourage me also to like she takes a lot off your plate, Like she's I initiate in our clothes, all the middle work, all the all the flight booking, the producer agreements, the studio time booking, all that she controls so I can pass it and then go on to the next one. So your labeltament cash Money, West cash Money, Man, I'm VP of at one hundred Entertainment. I'm actually running two labels

at the same time. Yeah, you got cash Money West one Entertainment. So, uh, Coyote, Coyote, True Car, Flash Gotti, all those up on the one hundred Entertainment. Blue Faces on cash Money, West Side Face cash Money. It was originally Savvy third and blue Face. I got a few artists. I'm just waiting to see what Birdmen want to do because he gets the first pick or whatever it is. That's just what that is, kiddo carry out of Chicago and probably just Mikey probably gonna end up on the

cash money on West Side. So just waiting on bird Man to give me the green light on that. So, uh, what is what do you look for man like like when it comes to talent, when it comes to an artist like, you know, what are the qualities that the true car was stood out to me? Was I thought it was from the souths some wats, some watts, and you know, you got to respect it. The South got the torch right. Now, a lot of people from New York and LA don't want admit it, but the South

got the torch right. They've been having a to they've been having a torch about twenty years, about fifteen years. So you know, he was different, you know what I mean? You know they got this auto tune sound thing going on it. They're saying the same thing, just in a auto tune way. So you can find that Adama doesn't. He was different and I respected the fact that actually we can bring him in here. Want to I respected the fact that he was grew up in Watson and lived.

He's actually up the street they called a dome Block one hundred and tenth, which is not actually inside the projects but the outer streets outside of the projects. But I respected the fact that he didn't game bang. He grew up around it. His family's around it, but he he's not from Bounty Hunters. Everybody around him is, but he not. And I respected that, you know what I mean. So I kind of look at and his work ethic is crazy, like I've never owned the studio. I go

book one out, block one out. He running so hard. I had to actually go kid a studio, shout out the stack quote, look at man, you know what I mean? Stack quot and DJ they blessed me with my with my situation. I got over there and let me take over and just put it together how I wanted to, you know what I mean. So shut the stack quote. So he his work at it like he minds me a game game going knockout four or five joints tonight, right, And they was in there last night and it was

crazy because it's a game, snoop. We just did it last night. Okay, we got a true call in the hood. The game of Snoop on the versus that's gonna be on the evolution of Banging on Wax? Is that gonna be the compilation you were telling me about what Asia and Tyger. Yeah, Asia and Todd Donalds. They got a big record the singles Bloods, Crips, par Rule with mazi O, t Genesis, Game, Blue Face on that that's coming out through Uh, I'm working that through three one nine cash Money.

The distribution you said evolution to Banging on Wax, People don't remember that that was the crips and blood was crips on one side, bloods on one side, which was

a red rum and and big why and stretch. They did that situation, but the crips was dissing the bloods on one side, and Bloods was dissing the cris So once since then, we've kind of evolved to where this blood and crip thing has went across the United States, and how we're doing it is making sure everybody got to understand it, especially in this music industry, to minimize the violence. So the evolution side of it, which came from Wacko, from West Side Parlo one hundred and forty

second Street. His whole thing was to let's show the evolution of it to where now we got bloods and crips on the same songs, doing great music together, getting along the evolution of it. So we promoted the bullshit back then, fucked these niggas, Kill these niggas. Twenty five years later, we're still here standing. Hey. Listen, our politics all crossed, our land, on your block, you in my city, you and my studios. It's all love is cool, vice versas.

So that's what that is. Oo, that's all all right. So look you you actually you've been busy. Hell yeah, working working for Sofa. So we got won't coming this week. Wat's up? Wys up? So yep, we had to do it for the city. So yeah, you've you've you've got some big features. Obviously the Richard Kid record, you Bro Freddy shout Out, the Bank Caller, the Ray, Draco, Drac Mazi, saw you with Drake. We got wont coming with Sweetie. Oh here you told me. It's got the old school

sample on the right. We took games, let's ride and flipped it. Flipped it. They did that. A scout stories came and touched it. For us did to be shout out the story. So, hey, when when this guy originally calls you, how did y'all how did you find him? And how did the initial conversation? Blue face and told me you wanted to do a remix on the song, and he said, can you find him? This is his name?

Sent me his instagram by d M D. You know, you know some people wake up see DM DM for me, don't know how to take that ship right, So I d M him and he sent me his number. I called him, I told him what it was. He pulled up in the studio. Blue Face knocked it out. I said, look, whoever you're working with? Asked him who he was signed to? We said nobody, and asked Hi where he was from. He said, watch grew around the and guards. So first thing got my mind respect for my brother top Dog.

I'm like, have you reached out the top Dog and tde right? So he was like he was trying to get some you know, things that way or whatever. So I said, I'm gonna call over there. So before that, I told him, I said, look, whatever you're working with, just telling him we do in your favor enhancing your music. Gonna let you use blueface platform. It's all love, no strings attached. But I warned him, when you tell him you came in with me, they gonna feel some type

of way and they gonna get different with you. And I think because I told him what was gonna happen before it happened, when it happened, he called me back and said, I need to come talk to you, and he pulled up on me. I was working in the studio on Glendale at the Mint Room. He said, Man, as soon as I told him that you know I was over here with you, everything changed. I said, well, you know you want to come over here and work,

you can work. Because what I like to do. I let allist come to my studio, use the studio for free two three months. Whatever you want to do a record. I want you to want to work with me. I don't force contracts, so I don't dank on home in front of you. If you comfortable with me, and you can come to my office and then we can map out what we want to do. And he'll tell you that he was over there free fall two three months. I never no paperwork, neverning when he felt he was ready.

Because far as I'm concerned him being able to come to my studio for those eight hours or ten hours. He got more chance in life. He ain't over there on the block. Ain't nothing happening to these kids. So I'm giving you an outlet, someplace to go. Whether you got any money or not, I'm gonna pay for the

room anyways. There I got a couple of rooms, So even if some kids just come to hang out, you know, it's an outlet, and and you know, and I give him that because I feel like, hey, I think that's another misconception about you that you just kind of squashed that. Like I think a lot of people look at you

it's like, whack is this big? But I think that you need to you know, it's good that you're promoting that, because I don't think people understand like the shit you be doing for people that we don't even know about. You will never find nobody that can say whack supervisor orchestrate any kid getting put on the street game. I learned at an early age. I was sent to the penitentiary at sixteen, solid that that this shit is some bullshit. But I was too so far, too late. It was

what it was. So I told myself. I'm never gonna put this on nobody else's child, because I know what this is. I believe what you put in the universe is gonna come back. I know I had a son on the way, and you know, I'm not gonna do this to somebody. Then one day something happened to mine because of what I orchestrated over here. So they all tell you, I got all kind of shit in my building. It be shipped. My building ain't supposed to be in the build at the same time. Like who they killing

right now? And they blocks, but they right here, three four different neighborhoods getting along. So now when they see each other, you know what I mean, maybe they let each other live even if Wack's not there, because through Whack they develop a relationship, which is great exactly. Well, look, Whack, I know you know you were supposed to be out he at three o'clock. We're running later. Yeah, I gotta go. I got daddy duties. I gotta take that door to this.

But you know we got True Car. He's coming, Blue Faces, coming games Coming. I got a thirty for thirty playlist type album that we're releasing shared a True Car based on a true story. It's coming on. That's like mar you got he a freestyle. So I told him, yeah, I ain't seen him write nothing yet. He comes come off the top, off the top, you know what I mean. But like you know, shout out to everybody that's been there, my man j R. Running my market and E one

Ha's been there. Also the diapers. You got incredible, incredible diapers. They launching the June the only minority own dot Nick Cannon in the universe, Nick Cannon, Nate Cannon. Gonna need those diapers too. My man is out here, popul Nick said, he's trying to He's getting down for sure. You know, he allowed me to use his name. I was trying to come up with his name, and I was in the rut and I was like, you know, uh, doble diapers. I like the ring of it. So I called it perfectly,

like whack go ahead. Do you think he wouldn't even take no money from me? But I still rolled it up. He gave him, gave him this percentage. He doesn't have to do anything. I have been asked me for no funding and that you know, I'm pretty sure when it comes down to marketing and promoting. He definitely be there for me. But you know, definitely, you know, we're moving things in other ways and to empower ourselves so we don't need the other people to do the things that

we do. Music facts, well, look appreciate you pulling up Whack. It's about time man, definitely, and we're gonna have. I talked to uh to the Coyote dudes because they've been them dudes can rap like so hard. I've been talking to him bout pulling up. We don't do a freestyle with them, do a freestyle with you and and definitely boom entertainment when we go on that problem. Yeah, boom oh love West Up.