#31 - Blacc Zacc

here though, another great episode. Uh, we got Black Zach on the podcast today. Shout out to Black Zach. Spoiler alert, he's a black guy. Wouldn't it be interesting if Black Zach was a white guy, that'd be interesting. Shout out to black Zach though. Man, he signed to the homies down in the Carolinas. Man. Shout out to Arnold. Shout out to my dude, King Carter. You know he's on the same level as the Baby and really dope. Interesting story.

This guy from South Carolina, not North Carolina and is the self proclaimed richest rapper in South Carolina and came to the studio wearing I don't know a couple hundred thousand dollars in jewelry, So we're gonna talk to him, get a little bit of background of his story. Interesting, kat So stay by Radio for that. Got a shout out to, uh the obvious amazing sponsors of our podcast, odds Socks, Salute to them. We got a shout out

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from rap Radar that I'm really excited for. Also, some real ill West Coast shit going on on the podcast the last few weeks of twenty twenty. We're gonna have Stupid Young on the podcast with Tory Walker. Who else, Oh, Draco the Ruler d dg uh. You know, we got some cool shit. But yes, super excited for the Brian Miller beat Out Miller podcast that's coming out to kind

of just wrap up twenty twenty as a whole. But first Black Zach on the podcast Turn This Up Yo Boutlet Cap podcast Black Zach in here South Carolina's own Zach. First of all, let's talk about all this jewel you got on bro. Yeah, that's a lot, my g you got the ovency, You've got the custom band on there with your name on it, and shit, I never saw that. Yeah. So Iviani he made this life from scratch, like he got the d M ME and it died with You got a Rolex, He has a role he cousin. I'm

playing like one twenty four. I probably overpaid for it, but I just wanted to be the first one with some shit like that. That's one hundred and twenty thousand dollars watch twenty thousand? Damn what so what about the other one? Something lighter? Yeah? My brother, My brother brought this from me for my birthday. He brought us from my things like this is Jubilee. It's like thirty something like that. Man, your brother's a nice guy. Yeah for so Yeah, and then obviously you got every I mean,

how many change you got on, bro? I only got like three. I ain't really like when I travel, I already like bringing all my jerks that's very smart. Yeah, I don't like bringing all this shit because this just be too much of a hassle. If you had to estimate how much money you have invested in jewelry, what would be your estimation, like selling fifty eight hundred thousand. Do you look at jewelry as an investment? At first, I was just I ain't even gonna lie to you.

I was just doing it because at first I seen like but just before, like all the rappers was really really getting it to it. I remember used to see like the Migos and shit all the time, like they'll be at the jury Stone. I'm like, damn, this is what the roper was about to get into, like Juris. So I just started buying it. But then as I learned it, I had to learn like watches is what keep value watches and Cuban links and shit like that.

So I was like, man, I'm about to just start buying like watches and Cuban links and stuff like that. I heard that if you flood your watch, though, it takes away from the long term values. That true, yeah, it do takeaway for some watch, but right now, like how to how to like how the pandemic and stuff is from what the jewelers tell me, Like he was trying to buy my ap from me. He be trying to buy it back. Yeah, he be trying to buy it back just for saying like everything lo on everything

right now? Oh wow, that's crazy. Do you know? It's interesting because we're in a point in time in the world where there's people out here that are real desperate to hit a lick. Does that make you You just said that you don't move around a lot when you travel with all your jewelry. Are you worried about, like you know, being out of state or being out of town and like you know, ship in Texas, Benny got shot,

Boozie got shot. You know, Yeah, it's been crazy. Are you like, does that make you change the way you move around? Because you're kind of known to have a lot of that's kind of like you know, a thing a lot of people know has that. Has that made you reevaluate that at all? I mean, I feel like nobody untouchable, but I just feel like, you know, it's it's all about like what you're gonna do after your shit get took or something, Like anybody can get some

jud took or something. But you gotta just handle it, how to come and you got to know how to move, like I don't be in places where I don't got no beatings or why I don't why I shouldn't be there at the time. So, have you ever had any sort of incident happened like that where maybe someone trying to catch you slipping no knock on? Yeah, yeah, we can knock on what? Yeah, you got the project out? First of all? You drop two projects this year, right,

Caroline Knocko. I dropped Caroline Knocker like as soon as the Yeah, it's like, as soon as I dropped Caroline knock On the Pandemic hit. It was crazy, Like I was. I had so much shit like lined up because I

did a short film. I had like the money bag your tour set up yep, yeah, the Baby tour was set up in my own tour as soon as it happened, like the Pandemic hit, and just so much live money taking away from everybody, so much live money, especially someone like Baby who was about to have a crazy festival run for so yeah Baby, no Baby gonna make that money regardless, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I

mean I think that that's also a dope thing. It's like a lot of people have taken advantage of the fact during the pandemic, like and just have been dropping even more music than they usually would, because it's almost like you got to make up for the lost bread, Like why sit on the music people? I feel like now right now people are listening to music more than ever, and they're listening to it differently, if that makes sense exactly. I guess they appreciate it more. It ain't nothing else

to do but make music. Yeah, eight or three legend South Carolina. You're from Columbia. Columbia, Yep, that's where Charlamage started his radio career, right, yeah, first early on he was. I don't know if that's where he necessarily started, but I thank you from on like something to South Carolina or something like that, Monk's Corner something. Yeah, I think that's close to something Charleston. It's about Charleston. Maybe he was in Charleston, not yeah, Charleston, but yeah, he most

definitely was. He got ties in Colombia for so. Yeah. Yeah, I was just talking to Carter about kind of like the Carolinas in general, being they're such an important part of rappers careers. That we don't even acknowledge because of all the radio stations that are in both of those states. And it's almost like you can't really find an artist

that has really popped like without having that region on lock. Yeah. Yeah, And it's crazy because like like the Carolinas there, you know, they'll go crazy like when like anybody else come, but it's like it's it's kind of weird, like when you're

from there. I guess it's it's like that everywhere. Yeah, I don't really use that as excuse, but most definitely, like Carolina would be one of the first places where all the people come and make their money for so because they're gonna they're gonna book them, the promoter's gonna book them, and people gonna show up and go crazy for them. What do you how do you compare North Carolina versus South Carolina? Is it? Like, what's the big difference?

If any like no Carolina a little bit more kind of advanced, Like we don't even got no NFL team, Like the biggest I just claimed the Panthers because Carolina, Yes, Carolina Panthers the street. So that's all we got in it. Only thing like Columbia got is like the game Cocks, like the US. I remember seeing those hats as a kid and it would just say cox on it, and I'd be like, Yo, fam, what is going on? What is this? Yeah? Yeah, I'd be at the lids and it'd be a hat to just said cox on it.

I'd be like, bro, what the fuck? Oh this South Carolina game Cocks. They should put the whole thing on there. That's so crazy. It is, so you aligning yourself with UH, with Carter and Arnold and those guys, what point in time did you sign Because you were making noise prior to that, obviously, but at what point in time did you make that affiliation official? I'd say about I've been signed like the SMC as far as like probably like a year and a half. So yeah, it's something like that.

So it's been a while. I think it's dope. I was just telling Carter this. I was like, Yo, the fact that like all of the artists over there are from the Carolinas. Yeah, it's so special. See, I think on a planet that shit. Like, I think he just wanted like all his artists to be from Carolina, whether it's South and North Carolina, Like he wants all his artists to be from Carolina. Yeah, because if you're in his position, you could sign anybody. Yeah, yeah he can,

and anybody probably be with him to sign. Yeah. And now it's like just the fact he's that there's just such an intentional effort to put on the Carolina is a special bro Like I think it's super dope. Now, you're obviously you obviously have a lot of money that might not necessarily be rap money. What like, what would you you know, there's up and cooming artists who make mistakes who you know, yeah, got one foot in, one

foot out, you know what I'm saying. Like, you seem to be doing very well for yourself, and you seem

to be fully entrenched in the rap game now. But what would be some advice you would give to some up and coming artists that might be watching this that might kind of, you know, still have one foot in the streets one foot out, Like you know what I'm saying, Like what basically I tell them just invest their money, like don't be cheap, like you know what I'm saying, don't be like if you're gonna do the rap, like, you gotta put like at least ninety in that shit,

you seem like reinvest your own money into your wrap. Yeah, put your money, like reinvest your money into your career, like because you got to show people that you said before they even willing to put money into you. Like most people like be like they'll go buy some cushion, not even want to go pay for studio times and shit like that, like that shit be backwards, but they want to. Yeah, they'll go buy a five hundreds a belt or get a whole Goddamn. That's when I realized,

like I was doing ship backwards. Like when I realized, I was like, hold up, man, I got like on four five thousand dollars outfit and I'm I'm getting a thousand dollars video. Man I No, I got to flip that around. Yeah, Like that's if I'm willing to spend this on close, I gotta be willing to spend double that on something to take my music career to the video to the next level and exactly like but shit, people don't be understanding that, But shit, they'll figure it out.

Who's the first big name or big artists that we might know that like gave you a co sign early on like PB of Young Dog that's the realist, bro. Yeah, always silid. What year is that? That probably was like two thousand and fifteen, fourteen, probably sooner than probably earlier than that. I can't really remember, but because I had did a song with him a long time ago. But you know, I was like on some young ship still

one foot in, one foot out. So you know, he probably did a song with millions of people, but he probably like what I'm thinking happening is with me? Keep going up like I kept going, And we ran into each other again, and he was like, damn, that's like a different conversation. Different They were like, damn, that's a little buddy who you know what I'm saying. Because back

then I paid him for the verse. Yeah, y'all catch him out for the I paid him in all fives and teens, like trap money, so he already knew like back then, so when we ran into each other again, he was like, damn, he's still grinding. And what was what was the ticket on the dolphers? Then I think, like, I think I paid like eight thousand, and then I paid him another team for the video though you gotta double up for the video. Yeah, yeah, I paid the

team I was like fucking like. I used to love like giving the I used to look at everybody like rapt niggas, but now I'm a raper. I hate when somebody call me a rot nick because I feel like kind of like you're trying to discredit somebody. But just caut a niggas be rapping like that mean they don't mean they ain't solid. Most of these niggas some of them solid, not all of them. But obviously coming from your background, talk about what's the biggest L you've taken

in the streets. Man? You know everyone's I mean not everyone, but you know, dabbling that world. You know that sometimes you take it l. Sometimes the package you get lost in the mail or so you know, whatever it is. One time, shit, I lost like two hundred and fift thousands. Shit this year I lost like one eighty, but I don't I don't trip about it. So you lost two hundred and fifty thousand one time at one time? What what can give us as much of the circumstances you

can give us without snitching on yourself. I mean, just sin lost it got lost. He got lost. I guess you know what I'm saying. But we got to say it back from people don't want to you complain. Yeah, bounce it back from a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars L bros. That's that's rough. How did you like the one eighty this year? What was that same situation? Some it's some some other shit. That's some man, I got. Someone broke into my car this year. Yeah, it took

fifteen thousand in cash out of my trunk. Bro while I was in a notary. Yeah, that that shit hurt. It hit different though you don't. I'll be looking at it. I don't care if I lose a thousand or one hundred thousand. That shit still hit the same. Yeah, especially someone takes it from you. If you want to kill somebody, yeah, like God damn. Like, but I guess you know, bigger

risk uff the reward. But one thing about me was like when I always lose that type of money, like even when you know, because my mom and my mom recaul, I tell my mom done everything, but my mom will be like, man, every time, you always bounce back from it, and I always like I lost. I remember I took a big here. Then that's when on the call me, it was like in the scope I want to sign

and he told me to know. Yeah, so every time I always take a loss, our bounce back from it, like God to bless me was way bigger than what I lost. It's like you took the l and then then you signed an interscope right after exactly like you know what, I ain't even dripping, And that was one of the biggest losses I ever took in like like I always probably lost like a little thirty here here, yeah, yeah,

but that was the biggest loss. And then right after that, I'll say, like a week later and I had a show, like when it happened, I had a show in Virginia. Man, I was about to go home, like I ain't even want to do this. Just fuck up your whole fucking move man, that shit, fuck your whole vibe, like we got girls in all around. I'm like, man, fuck the hells, Like I ain't even thinking about this shit, yo, what's crazy?

Is Like the reason why I really really resonated with Babies music early on was because I felt like he did such a good job of talking about selling weed, like the packs and shit, you know what I'm saying, Like I fact, like, man, I'm talking about even before that obviously he sugar is huge. But even before that, like like I was like, yeah, I've never heard anybody rap about selling weeds that I could relate to more than like burner, you know, something like that. But but

he would. But baby told me that he used to sell the He would used to vacuum seal up rabbit food. This game, right, which is dangerous. You get caught slipping. Did you ever dabble in any sort of that? Nah? I ain't never did. I did straight up business. I ain't never like I ain't really been into that world, like not knocking somebody who do it, But nah, I do straight up business. I ain't never really had the robbing for this. Yeah, because I was like, damn, bro,

like I'm glad you're still here. Yeah, he made it through it because that kind of ship man, you you sells that rabbit food of the wrong people. It's they gonna kiy in South Carolina. I don't know about No Carolina, but you would have got you asked about it even right now, especially how big you is. It wouldn't work. I saw some where it said that you were the

richest rapper in South Carolina. Man. The craziest thing is I ain't don't even name myself that, like the like the people was comming that like way back, just commenting on my Instagram. So I made it a song. And ever since I made a song, like that's when everybody's just been calling me that shit. But ain't nobody never challenged it. So like fucking financially, do you do you like to dabble in any sort of like real estate investing businesses, like like you got like I mean, you

know you got a lot of fucking jewelry. Yeah, dang, that's a that's just like really for trophies and shit. But like I do real estate, like we got smoke shops. I'm about to open a restaurant restaurant for like my family. But I just built my crib like like from a dirt. I built it like it's just from the mud, And like always that was always a goal for me, like

the I want to build a house. So you know what I'm saying, I be into that type shit like real estate, like I ain't no fool, Like I ain't just doing like buying Jerry doing dumb shit like that. Was there ever anything you bought that you regretted buying? Like like immediately after like something that was just like fuck man, what did I just do? Like No, I can't really think that off here, like saying something I regret. No, I can't really think how is how's your experience been

so far with the Interscope situation. It's been cool, Like you know, it's still like it's a real good umbrella, you know, and a good machine to have with you. But it's like it's still on the artist. It's still on you. You still got to hat yourself up. Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying. I feel like, you know, a label know how to take something that's it's already moving and make it, Yeah, make it bigger than life.

But you know, I signed my dial for different reasons, so you know what I'm saying, Like, I still I come from the independent game, so I just know how to I'm still move around independently like I ain't ain't with a major. Yeah. Plus that you got all your independent catalog, it's gonna keep going up, you know. Yeah, And that's a good thing they did for me too. They they let me keep all that shit. That's important because you become you know, baby or whoever, like depending

analog gonna go crazy forever exactly. That's dope, man, So eight or three legend? Who else? Can you kind of give us a breakdown of like the hip hop scene in South Carolina specifically, because I feel like, like you were saying earlier a little bit like it's almost harder to like get support from your own people until you start popping. Then everybody want to come and jump on see, not like people fuck with me in Carolina like nofen South.

But at first it was like I used to feel like I was it was me against everybody, but you know, because like it was like how it came in, this shit like especially at home, but how it came out it was so like unrebs, like, ain't no way he doing it like that other than like if you like in my immediate circle, then you know it's but other than that, it's like, man, no way he doing it like that. Like so it's hard for them to try

to support it or want to support it. But and then you gotta think we're coming from him like that shit is it's a little country time, so it ain't nobody major and nobody the major came from out of there, like the closest way we had was like little roue yep shit like that live rue and that's about it. I forgot about Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He

never really got to that that level. Like this is the biggest like the Carolina's thing ever been, like period, like South End North, Like this is the biggest it done been because like when Arnold, even with the like Arnold did what he did, but even with the artist, like me and Baby got a relationship where it's like we kind of bridge the gap to a North and

South Carolina. How long have you guys had that? Like because obviously Baby independently been running shit for a long time, you know, and the but like how long did you like like did you guys have a rapport like prior to you signing for sure? Yeah? Yeah, Like I knew Baby like five years ago, probably like five years ago. We went to the studio together. It was just him by itself and me and my brother put up. We did like four five songs that night. I been new Baby.

And then like he used to see me coming up there in the clubs, running around throwing money, doing stuff, and he'll do the same thing, and you know, like that's why he showed me the type of love he showed me because he know like what I'm talking about, Like that boy really doing it, like he really come from it. So that's why he always showed me love. Anytime, anytime I need him, I can call him. I just called to ask him about some some shit the other day.

He pick up every time. Yeah, that's big man. Did What did you learn in the streets that you've been able to apply to your to your music career. Just try to like outwork everybody in the streets. You gotta have the best number, so you gotta outwork everybody. So in the rock game, you know what I'm saying, You gotta outwork everybody and try to have the best product

in your lane. Like I learned my lane life as far as like with the trat shit, I feel like that lane wide open, Like it's kind of like doing died down because people doing all the singing shit and all that type shit. But me, I'm gonna come in with my own flavor, like like how like how Jeez and gucciam came in back in the day. I'm a news generation because ain't nobody really gonna ain't nobody talking to trust like me and get back it up. Yeah, nobody.

It's crazy because the new trapping I feel like during the during COVID nineteen is the d D shit ed ed shit. Oh yeah yeah. The pandemic boys that's what they call them. Motherfuckers are eating out here. That's crazy. I gotta be thanking, like god damn, Like I got a home. You of mine who like he's pulling out like you know, five figures of dead at the atm off these cars. Bro. Yeah, I need some of that

free money. It's crazy. But my granted told me like, hey, if they free worth taking, I was like, dare, like if they gonna have to pay that ship bad? What they is so like not. What they're doing, bro, is they're finding the homeless people and cashing them out for their information. Okay, okay, you find a homeless motherfucker, you say, look, I give you a rack, give me your ID and your soula so and then all at that point in time,

it's almost like moving packs in the mail. You just need an address to get the cards sent to exact. The ship is crazy. That ship's crazy, damn. That ship's wow. Yeah yeah yeah, I feel like that's the new Like that's the new hustle. You know what I'm saying. Shout out to him, Shout out to him. Man, I'm assuming. I mean, obviously eight or three Legend is out, Carolina Narco is out. I mean, I'm assuming you already got

a whole nother project. Yeah, I'm thinking to go, I got another project, right, but I'm thinking about dropping the Deluxe before the end of the year for for a three Legends Deluxe probably add like three new songs with some features. No, just like I got some hard ship with your school, Like, hey, Scooters doesn't get the props he deserves. Yeah, we came up. We came up, like

listening in the school like Scooters crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know he I feel like he one of the ones too, like I used to like, I like Pee Wee long Way too, But I just you know what if you know long is the other one? Yeah, with them type of people, like if you know, you know, like you could tell they still we for sure, Yeah, they still moving and grooving. But at the end of the day, like see, I guarantee they they situated like they ain't. I ain't pressed by it ain't. That's Pee

and Scooter. Who's an artist that you came up listening to while you was moving around that you were like, man, I know that what they're saying is real because they that's that Like you said, is that if you know you know shit? Is anybody else like that? Like Doe b r ip dob RP man? Yeah, be with five like that was one of my favorite. It was crazy. So man, Yeah, he was so young, like like well he had Alabama on his back. You know what I'm saying,

I'm coming from that country time. I know how I feel like just having to beat them eyes and his his content and rap like what he was rapping about. Like you'll think he was like thirty years old when he died. He was like twenty two. Yeah, so he had a crazy V cavalary. What's something about you that people don't know out there? Like what the hobby of yours? Like what do you you know? What's the hidden talent? Maybe just something that we don't know about black exactly.

People might be surprised about. I cut a niggas in two K Okay. I was about to say, I thought you were gonna talk about like you stab somebody like two K. You're great at two K. Yeah, you know, I mean once you started that sentence, you're nice on the sticks. Yeah. For so, even the new two K sucks though they changed the shut the shot meter. I ain't gonna lie suck. I love two K twenty, but

the twenty one. That's why I ain't playing. I brought the p S five just to say I had it, but I saw the god I played that ship one time. Did you overpay for the PS five? Overpaid? How much you hit a pain? Twelve hundred? That's fair. I was getting them off for about twelve. Yeah. Yeah. It was this azing dude like in Atlanta. He had like fifthy on joints. I'm like, god, I don't know what he he posted a picture. I don't know if it was what,

if it was real or what. But my nigga had like fifth them and we brought like three from him. He was he was selling them a little back everybody. Yeah, yeah, I was selling with a lot of people out here. Yeah. I should have let you then, you should have man, had I had them? So are you? Are you the house you just built? Was that in? Is that in Atlanta or Carolina? Is on Carolina? Yeah? I wanted the goddamn build my sit home because that's where my kids

at and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, listen man eight or three Legend the lux coming soon for so for show for show, you and the whole crew going up right now. Yeah, shout out to shout out the big man at the baby Stunned for Vegas. You have your own imprint as well, because you know babies got billion dollar baby, Like, do you have your own crew that you're working on. Yeah,

I got my shit called d m Me. I got Fat Loat on Little Quail Campaign, Dirty Month the Sun and like all those people like they grind and they still like they making noise back at home from South Carolina. Yeah, for so there it is. Man, Will y'all go support this guy's project. And damn man, I'm I'm heartbroken after I heard you took one hundred and eighty I was in l this year. That's a lot. That's a lot. My stomach hurts for you. But yo, go support it. Man.

We got the freestyle too dropping. Uh, we're gonna drop the freestyle like a few days after this drop, So go support the homie Black Zac tap in real Nat Well, it's not really ninety two three, it's the Bootleg keV Podcast tomatoes, tomatoes, mm hmmm, Grab some flicks,