#300 - Jay Worthy

I got the tour coming up. Yeah, first leg of the tour. I excited about that, you know what I'm saying. Perform some new material about to come out. So always good, you know. Yeah, I feel like you have a pretty insane output when it comes to just like putting out bodies of work, Bro, Like for you, like, what would you kind of attribute the work ethic to? Just it

feels like you figured it out. Yeah, you know, I don't know, man, You know, like I studied the greats, you know what I'm saying, And you know, just even I'm gonna say it just watching Pak like when he was in the studio, he would tell him like, look, we're gonna lay all this shit down, mix and master that shit later. Let's get the verses done on to the next. Like, I'm always trying to get to the finish line, and it's easy to do when you're like

working on a project with one producer. So for example, if I lock in with Fraud, we're in there. Like I just left New York. I was there for a week. We did ten records and two sessions, you know what I'm saying. And you guys already got two albums. Yeah, we got two albums and this next one is me

and Camaya, all produced by Fraud. Yeah. Man, I wanted to put her on you know, like shit, yeah, you know, because I feel like I'm good at you know, I can A and R and curate things well, so cool to like, you know, I'm like, well, you know what, that hasn't been done before. Let's do that. You know. For people who don't know, man, give us your background. Obviously, you're from LA kind of how long you've been making music where you're from a part of the city you're from,

you know, from the West side of Compton. I've been doing this shit a little minute, you know. I kind of came into the game with Yams. He was the first one to kind of discover me, you know, put out a project in the SoundCloud era with Fools Gold, and then my debut EP was with Alchemist in twenty seventeen. That's when I started like streaming and putting music out. So you know, we got we still knew, were still

on the first run. You know what I'm saying. I'm finn to run it up some more, but you know, I've been in the game of you know a little second. I guess how did Asap Yams discover you? So me and Yams we met in Texas, you know what I'm saying. And the way that we met was kind of crazy. I was out fucking around at south By Southwest. We was on the same like showcases or whatnot, and he

just took a liking to me. Bro. He was like, man, I fucked with this dude, And you know, we had mutual friends like Dash and stuff, and there was a lot of shit going on at the South but I think there was like a rumble somewhere at the Fader for it or some shit like that. It was that year. But anyways, we was wild and out there. We got along and at the time I was living with Big Face Games brother on Brazil and Wilmington, and I brought

Dash over there. That's I don't know if you know who Dashes, but he used to rap with them a lot too, that's Dame Dash nephew. And I put him on a joint and we shot a video and Yams liked it, and you know what I'm saying. And at this time, I was kind of figuring out my sound. I was like, you know, I just wanted to rap over oldies and you know, loop shit up. Yeah, you know,

so he kind of gave me the direction. Like, you know, he put the confidence in me, because before I was just wrapping in the hood with the homies and the only like, you know, success I had seen at the time, you know, was like game or h you know, I used to run around with Sug and you know, just soak up game from him. But this was some new shit,

you know what I'm saying. And I like the way the direction, Like I liked the way the music was going, and like this was around like everybody was hanging out at Fairfax and I'm just you know what I'm saying, streetwear culture, skateboard and all that type of shit, and I was like, oh, this shit is cool and it can get me out of the hoods. So you know, I started sucking around and moving in those circles a

little bit. Okay, what year were you running around with Shug Night Damn Sug Probably like young, like two thousand and eight, nine, maybe two thousand and seven even Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sugar would give me a lot of game, man, you know, and bring bring us around and stuff. And but you know, IVE seen the game change, and you know I had to take a different approach, and you know, you gotta move with the times, you know what I'm saying. How

did you guys initially connect with me? And should well just you know, just Compton shit, you know what I'm saying. So you know some of the big homies, you know, it was fucking with him and you know, brought me around him and he took a liking to me. And are you making music at this time? I was, But I was like, you know, I kind of like i'd gotten you know, more caught up in street shit. I'm not gonna lie, and like music was just like second

secondary to me. Yeah, it was like a hobby. But I you know, I definitely still did it, but it wasn't like you know what I'm saying, I was I didn't know really what direction to go in yet, you know what I'm saying, I didn't really have my sound. Like before I started doing the stuff as Lendon Drugs, I'd put out one tape with Mustard and I would just take different songs from different studios, and I'm like, Mustard was the homie saw yeah, this was he was

making beats. He had just did Rack City, so like, and then Nima had hit me. That's how I got in the Empire system because I remember I just threw the tape out there and this is still like like physicals and like a couple of my boys that were from like the Jungles, they were like, instead of just putting the tapes and swap meets and liquor stores around the hood, you should go up to Fairfax and put it in the hundreds and Supreme and Diamond and yeah yeah, yeah.

So that kind of like brought me up there, and then you know, people on that side of town started here and my shit. So I was like, you know, I had the right intentions to do it, but I wasn't like it wasn't until like you know, I got with Sean and started like you know, really figuring out my sound and what I wanted to do. And then you know, with the help of Yams just kind of showing me the ropes a little bit. You know, Yams

did a lot. He put me with Vice, and then that led into me producing that documentary with Kendrick or about Kendrick in my Home He's called Noisy bompt In and that they also had Vice was doing all of my videos. Then I had Fool's Gold, you know what I'm saying. So that was like kind of the push that pushed me into like, all right, I'm gonna take

music serious all the way, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I feel like you've kind of like done a really good job of, like I guess, being in the right circles,

having the right people co sign you. Yeah. Yeah, And I think that's really important too, you know, like the whole shit with Al that was like monumental for me to be able to have like him do my first solo you know EP, and then through there that's how like you know, me and Gun and Conway met, you know what I'm saying, Like the first tour I ever went on was it was just me and Conway, Gun and Benny. It was just us for Yeah, what's the sidetrack? What's up with the Griselda debut? So you know, it's

guns a busy dude. I'm a busy dude. We want to make sure that it's done right. We want to be in the lab at the same time. You know, I have, you know, producers that I work closely with. He has the producers that he works closely with, and we're just gonna come put it together and it's got to be a pot of gumbo. But you guys got to kind of be actively working on it for sure, because like you know, you need to be in there with conductor and all conductor, you know what I'm saying.

And Darrenger, Well, me and Darrener got it ep done, but we keep like changing it up. But yeah, and Monk, you know what I'm saying. But the thing is with that, it's like it's just timing. Man. Everybody's busy and moving around. But it's gonna come. I want my debut solo to come out on Griselda. So it's crazy you say that and you have so much music yeah, because I won't even be able to put out my solo album. This year.

I got me and Rock Marcy album the Me Kamaia and Harry Fraud, and then I got a funk album with with Dame Funk and and then I got another album with Cocaine, the singer and those. Yeah, me and Cocaine got like a whole like kind of like a funk group we're doing called Billy Ocean, where I've taken some of the cats that produce for like selection like I Am Nobody, and then Jake One and Lavin Calli you know what I'm saying. And then me and Sean and you know, me and Coca got some cold ship.

So it's a lot of it's tough because you know, like us in the indie, like I don't like saying underground, you know what I'm saying. I like to remove that word, but I said, underground is kind of thing anymore. It's to be a thing. But I feel like there's so much there's just sub genres of this ship. There's the independent I mean, yeah, I feel like the underground ship is out the door. I feel like it because it's like what you call what Larry and Alchemists are doing underground,

I wouldn't. I was that's a major rollout, you know what I'm saying, Like, and it's being pushed back in the day you would think of like guys like Dilated People's is underground, yes, but it wouldn't even really be underground because they were on Capitol or like yeah, even like the Rockets record shit or but the real underground ship out of LA was Project Blow Project Blow. Yeah, bus Driver and I got a lot of history with

those cats. When I was like thirteen, you know, I was running around like with uh with CVE and and l a cool rifle man and soaking up game. That type of music actually opened my whole ship up because I really only like was listening to gangster rap and like East Coast shit at the time. And then I was like, Oh, it's some ship coming out of LA that's like different, you know what I mean? So how do you ooh, we're gonna do that? I'm trying to figure out because I'm an eighties baby, you know what

I'm saying. But I was my best friend's brothers and Dilated People's Oh yeah, who was your best friend's brother? Rock Oh ship? Yeah? I know evs my boy yeah, my boy too. Yeah that's crazy, no evidence. I was thirteen really yeah damn So, I like I remember seeing them on the Platform tour and then when they dropped Expansion Team. We came out here when I was like fourteen and went to the record release party at fucking Fat Beats and they had to show a Jurassic five

at Ship. And then when they had the Marathon drop, they opened up for Kanye a House of Blues. Yeah. So I was around all that ship bro. Yeah yeah yeah, that ship was dope, man, that whole Like like that's why even like while we're talking about this, like I like to do ship and bring Like for me, I like to work with people that I grew up on. Like so I'm like I did a song with Tash and we just put out a video Shout to the Licks man, Shout outs to the Licks life. That's one

of my favorite albums man. That was the ship that him and him and Rake one had that video. That was the ship. But you know, like for me, like you know, Ta Tash. I invited Tash and East Swift to my house and then I was like, let's shoot this video. I bought like a whole in Compton. I bought this whole fucking like warehouse full of like vintage denos and like I got dead stock for days like Fooboo, Avera, Rex, Pelly,

Pelly Jackets, denim shirts, everything we about to launch. I'm about to launch a store with this reworks company called Frankie Collective. So that's gonna be coming in the spring, you know what I'm saying. Ax, When I was like fifteen, we'd get them from Burlington, but they'd be like fucking

four X yeah. Yeah, you see they're coming back though, like and Ax, they all like relaunching this shit, and like, you know, I always been into fashion, Like people don't know this, but I'm like, you know, the you know kind of the I don't know what my title is, I would say, but you know, maybe the head of marketing over at Pro Club, you know what I mean. I took that and saw an opportunity to be like, this is a dope ass, this is a It's a staple.

We grew up on it in the hood, everybody grew up on it in LA and like I wanted to see it just you know, still keep its roots in the swap meets and liquor stores, but start doing collaborations. So when I came on board, we did the collaboration with y GA Complex Con, started doing the three packs with FTP. We did the pop up for Shoreline at uh Sloss and Cookies. Just do a pro club, Yeah, we did that one, yep, and and then we had you know, bernerd was rocking that pro club on the Forbes,

which was tight, you know what I'm saying. So you know, uh, the fashion ship is always I feel like, been a part of you know, music, every every rapper had when they was popping. Every rapper had a brand. If it was Nas, it was Esco. Of course, I always thought Johnny Blaze was method Man, because ye Johnny Blair was. I just remember seeing the ship in the Source. I never got any of them. Yeah yeah yeah, so they had a gang of that ship. So I just grabbed

all that ship. So we'll see what it do. But that I'm also gonna launch my own line this year. But you know, uh, back to the Tash story. Uh, I was like, Yo, let's shoot a commercial from my uh for my all the vintage pieces and jump jump on this old ship. And we shot a video. But I just liked to work with cats that you know

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let's get back to the interview. You you mentioned living with Big Face, and I just remember Big Face one hundred being like games brother, and then they had this falling out and this was like early like I wouldn't even say YouTube maybe, but it was like DVD ship. I just remember that there was like a big division between those two. Obviously Game being a Compton legend, his brother being a Compton legend. Yeah, what was your guy's relationship? Like, well,

I didn't really know. Again, I met Game like maybe you know a couple of times when he was like you know, as he was blowing up and stuff. But my relationship was more with face, you know what I'm saying, through a couple of big homies from my hood. And at the time, I didn't have nowhere to uh you know, I didn't have nowhere to stay, So you had a place to stay with him. Yeah, he opened his house to me and that ended up turning into a long time. So I was there, like you know what I mean.

And in that those days, that's when I met Freeway Rick and I was selling Indian hair and then he was selling hair and we was trapping, trapping the hair, trapping the hair all over all over Comped in South Central, everywhere, Watts. We was really making some good money off of hair until that game got saturated. You know what I'm saying, and so that shit's crazy to go get free clothes on Fairfax. We would go get all the promo stuff and then like you know, I would wear most of

that ship, but Rick would go and flip that ship. Yeah, that's my dog man. Me and Rick got a lot of history. Man, We've been we've been broke together, and we got rich together. So you have collab projects with some of the most legendary producers. You got an album with Mugs, you got an album with Alchemists, you got a couple albums with Harry Fraud, you got Rock Marciano

the collab album coming out for you. What is like, give me kind of like the breakdown, like the creative process on working with each one of these guys, because I'm sure everyone's different producers, creative processes. Maybe you know, whether it's recording whatever, what What's what's the difference between everybody? Everybody? I mean for the most part, bro, Like we all like friends. So you know, I like, I really like getting in there with Fraud because frauds like a good coach.

He'll be like, nah, say it like this, or nah, you need to retake that again. Someone recently told me he be in the Hamptons. Yep, that's where we recorded that second album. So we went out to the Hamptons. That shit was dope and you know, like fraud surf. So he'll like, wake up, go surfing and then we'll go you know what I'm saying, record, Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So uh yeah, I like everybody's different, you know what I'm saying. But the main thing is we're all friends.

So it's like I like to make music with people that I know, you know, I like to have personal relationships, and I think that makes the music better, you know what I'm saying, when you really like family like that. But I was gonna say that it felt like the Larry June album caught a lot of like lists last year. I had I think That's My Life, yea, my best album last year. But do you feel like that album kind of brought a lot more eyes to you and

your movement and what you got going on? Probably, So, you know, I don't know, because like, yeah, I mean, I'm not one to like I'm a very private person. I don't really like being in the media too much, so that one probably you know, Larry's on fire right now. It's a great bro great fucking album. Thank you. I appreciate that. You know. That's Sean, you know, from our group London Drugs, and we put that together. But you know, me and Larry is like real life brothers. You know

what I'm saying. That's like my best friend. So it was just, you know, we'd been sitting. Some of those songs are like six years old that we put on there. Yeah. One of the songs, the song with Jim Jones, I actually did that verse in twenty thirteen and put it out now, you know what I'm saying. But that's why nine years later, yeah, ten years later, yeah, you know, and I just feel like, oh yeah, it came out last year. Yeah, so I just feel like, you know,

if it's timeless, it's timeless. Like I don't really feel like, you know what. I still listen to Death Certificate, you know, I still listen to dog Food, you know, like it came out yesterday. So they do the same with my shit, you feel me. I ain't trying to put a year's stamp on my shit like that. Yeah, for you, I don't feel like when I remember buying like the Jiz and Mugs album, I remember that, which was a great album. But I feel like Mugs doesn't do as much like

full collab projects as people. So I feel like the fact you got an album with Mugs insane. Oh yeah that's a big deal. Man, that's so assassin shit Like that shit's a big deal. Like where did that relationship stem from? And like, well, I think Mugs probably got hipped to me from al you know what I'm saying, and just seeing my shit, and you know, we was mutual friends through a lot of people, and one day he was like, yeah, pull up to the studio, let's

make some shit. And we just started it. And you know, I already had in my mind when I go start something with a producer, especially like a legendary producer like that, I'm trying to get an album done. Bro, Like you've done a good job of doing that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to get an album done, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, uh, that was a great experience. You know, that's a legend. You know, my first CD I think I ever bought as a kid was The Predator, you

know what I'm saying. So you know, he had a lot of production on there, and you know, yeah, I came up on Cyprus and all that shit. So for me, it's like you're in Mugs's studio and you're looking at the plaques and you're like looking basically looking at an old source magazine, and then you're like, this is dope, you know what I mean? So that shit was fire. How high is ice Cube on your like goats list? That's like the guy you know for sure? To me, as far as you know those, give me, give me

your like top five, your personal favorite. I can't really do a top five, man. That ship is really hard for me to do. Man. But Cube is definitely in there, you know what I'm saying. Most definitely Cube Nas is in there too. You know, I don't know. I'm gonna just leave those two ones. Yeah yeah, those two for sure. Because Illmatic and Death Certificate, those was like okay, yeah, would you consider Death Certificate his best album? To me? Yeah?

I think so. To me, I feel like I feel like I feel like it's I feel like it's kind of the consensus. Yeah. I feel like America's most one got the five mics. Yeah, yeah, because America's most wanted is like, but I was a little like just the style of production for me was like a little still it was I love it. I go back to it now and I really got into it. But when I was like younger, I liked, like, you know, steady mobbing

and ship like that. I was like oh, and then like, you know, I still love Lethal Injection that album for sure. He's like crazy. So I just had Mac ten On and I was like, dude, I've seen was so fire. I've seen that ship, you know. I was like, oh, ship, Yeah, yeah, that's that's dope. What is your? Because I always get into argument. I have like two or three albums that are always rotating as my greatest album of all time. It's Ellmatic or it's Doggy Style, usually one or two.

What's your what's your fam? I'm gonna give the old head answer though, like for me still to this day, and even though I'm from the West Coast and all that to me, top the bottom nomadic, yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, it's Illmatic. I'ma I'm gonna be honest that that one changed the game. I remember going to the record store and the dude was in there. It was me and my relative and he was like nah. We was like no, you know, nine or ten or something like that. And

he's like, this is that ship? You know what I'm saying. It was like, oh and never never got older than me. I still you know what, Nah, that's somebody I haven't met. I haven't met I haven't met Nas. I haven't met Jay. But I didn't you know, everybody out here, you know, I didn't met, but uh, you know, and we're speaking of the East Coast like dip set, you know, like

that was my ship. So for me and Jim, and me and Jim got a personal relationship because you know, Jim was fucking with the homies early on Certified Gangsters. He was he was in that. He wasn't he in Yeah? Yeah, he was in the hood early, fucking with folk band Rest in Peace, fucking with hot Dog and and Whacko.

I just I just randomly saw that video again, like two weeks ago, I don't know, popped up on my YouTube, and I was like, damn tribe and that this was really in content and that wasn't like there wasn't people like didn't come to the hood like that then, and

like and Jim was banging. So when Jim came out West, like he was tipping through hoods and like tapping in, like you know what I'm saying, and you know, really like similar, like I gotta give it up the walka flocka too, because like that was around the days when we would be around Sugar, Like Walker really came out here and tapped in and when he made flock of Velli, he went and grabbed the homies and put Waji Hoodie on brick Squad, put Ice beat put Joe Moses went

and shot hardened the pain in the jungles. You know what I'm saying. That was dope, you know what I mean. It's kind of like it's wild to really think that like a lot of the like you know, because back in the nineties, you know, the crips had more of

the right, right, they were the more popular. Like if you think about like, yeah, shoot dog Man, that's all really got another the biggest rapper in the world to Snoop and the Homies, it's like, to be honest, like Jim Jones and like little Wayne kind of brought I feel like to it even though it wasn't from yeah, but you know what I mean, it was like Gayne game for sure too. But yeah, you know Wayne and Jim, like you know, they was they was they was putting

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So you know what I'm saying, Uh, yeah, legends. You know what I'm saying. That rock hit me last night and he was like, Yo, He's like this shit, feel like we were making the chronic Damn. I said, if you feel like that, then I know we got some shit. But man, it's been a pleasure to work with Rock and it's been cool to showcase him because everybody know he the hardest and rapping, No, he can rap his ass off, but he's also an amazing producer that part, you know. So what he's doing for me is he's

producing the album. He's rapping on it too, but not you know, maybe just one joint, you know what I'm saying. So I want to leave some of the some of the uh features. Yeah, well you told me a lot of them and they're pretty crazy. Yeah, but I'll tell you this though, we got we got bun on there. You know what I'm saying. I'm going out to I got to show in Austin April fourth, and then I

shootout to Houston negotiate to the video. Yeah, uh for you, because it is kind of crazy to think like, I don't think there's been another artist that has really like obviously shout to Freddy Freddy's and stuff with math Lib and and now I feel like you've done such a good job though if you go all the way back, because the London drug shit is is you and a producer, right, me and a producer, right, and so you've been doing

that consistently for so long. It's kind of like your business model at this wint it is and I'm not I'm not gonna say that I kicked it off or nothing, because you know, of course, I mean Wu Tang Look man, they what that was all Risen Gangstar Mob Deep Mob. You know what I'm saying. I mean, I mean it was like it was like having a Gangstar, but Gangstar was all proud of I mean all Premiere and Premiere actually gave me a shout out recently, which that meant

a lot to me, you know what I'm saying. On the mug ship. So also not all tank sit right there? First album? Who was the first album? I think? I think The Chambers was, but we take forever it was mathematics, Yeah yeah, yeah right right, So but yeah, I mean I've done that. I mean, I like to create. I like to create a sound, you know what I'm saying.

I feel like Fantasy Island with Al that had a sound, Active with Sean that had a sound, the Cardo, the g Worthy Project that had a sound like you know, it's cool to do that, but I think what will be interesting is when I really put out my first debut solo and it's different producer Zelda. Yeah, and it's different producers because like you're bringing all the worlds together. Man, I got so many EPs that I started and didn't finish, like me and Jake One got some ship. Oh I

loved white band music. Man. I even got some ship with that Thundercat produced for me that I ain't even like. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like I'm trying to like show people some other ship. When I dropped my solo album, like here this is jayworthys uh yeah, this is his studio album. Is that what they used to call it? This studio album? Yeah? Yeah, this is my label album. Right now, we're still just warming up and getting the fun shit done. Would you and pre

Co do another g Worthy? I would love to. Yeah, he's his output since he got He's bro. He always put the energizer charging my back because when he would be like, man, what you doing man? Drop drop like his model's crazy and he's he's turning up right now. He's turning up his tours looking amazing. He's on like, yeah, he's on double time right now. I gotta catch up. I gotta definitely do it. We need to. We need to do g Worthy to you know, it's just Cardos busy.

He's busy. I'm busy. And the way g works is a lot different than me. Like I've me and Larry worked very similar, like send me the shit and I get it done, you know what I mean. I'll just being there with Sean or my engineer and I knock it out. But the way ge Worthy was made, it was made in one day and we had everybody in the studio a live cookup. It was a live cook

up in the end. And there's something to be said about that because if you look at the classics like Chronic and Doggy Style, you know they was at Dre House and they was knocking out all together as a unit, and you know, music comes out fun like that. So I gotta you know, I think we gotta get into all together in one room for that to happen again. But it happened one day, would you and uh, well, with all the success and the love you got for the al Malarry you guts, Oh yeah, that's forever. That's

for life. Man. Two pie's in a pot is like a group, you know, what I'm saying, Like and if you see like you know, they just dropped the track listing for him and the ALS project. I'm on that. You know, he was just on my last project with Harry. We we keep h we keep it, we keep each other going. You know what I'm saying. It's the brand at this point. You know what I'm saying. So the tours come in, make sure you go get tickets. Go

get those tickets. Rock Marsie album on the Way, Rock Marsy album on the motherfucking way, Camaya collab projects, Harry Froug so much this year and Dame Funk. If y'all not hip to that, go get hip to that, Go get hip to that. Man, Well, listen, I appreciate you pulling up. We had to finally make it happen. But man, thank you, it's been an honor. Yes, sir, my guy, jay Worthy boom