#295 - 38 Spesh

people who don't know. So what I like about what you're doing with this album and you've don't in the past, is you put the album out on your website early.

So for the fans that are like that want it now, you can monetize that, right, you know, I get the people that you know want to support, give them a chance to support a lot of people be wanting to support Heavy, right, don't even really got no opportunity, right you know what I'm saying, Yeah, because it's like you can stream it, but like what if I want to do more? You know? So you know, with this right here, I'm giving y'all an opportunity to pay what you want.

You know, we start with a floor price at thirty eight dollars, but if you want to spend more you could spend more, and the people that spend a lot, y'all gonna get you know, different perks and stuff. You know, y'all gonna get access to, like, you know, the events, you know, the listening parties and exclusive merch and stuff like that. You're gonna see all the incentives up there when you go to the site. It's that even dot biz. Well I just saw so if someone buys the album,

they can come to the show in LA. Definitely, So they can come to the show in LA, and then there's an exclusive listening seven shots vinyl too, right, Yeah, it's a vinyl that you get signed by me as well. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, the vinyl turnarounds gotta be crazy. I feel like it takes forever to get vinyl made. It was. It got crazy when COVID hit. Right, it's been better. It's a lot better now. Yeah, it's back to normal and shit, decent, decent turnaround and shit,

how do you top last year? Man? You had a crazy year. Last year I had a dope. Yeah last year. This year is gonna be crazier. Yeah, because I got I got a lot of shit. Last year was my warm up. You know what I'm saying, Like I only put out honestly, I put out like seventeen songs last year, but they but they all you made him count? Yeah? I made them just count this year because did you only put out seven shots in the Harry Frodchi last year? Yeah?

You made him count though, You're right? Yeah, right? You know what I'm saying. This year, I got a few things lined up. Like I said, I got gun Smoke, I just dropped. Me and Conway got an album Crazy Okay, Yeah, the people gotta get ready for that. Is it finished? It's done? Oh man? Yeah, that's coming. I'm gonna follow up after gun Smoke with that. So y'all heard that? Do you have a title for it? You're gonna need a lighter again or yeah, I'm gonna need a lighter again.

Let's get this wonderful hardin lighter, yes, sir, So, yeah, that's coming. The name of that album is called Special Machinery. Oh yeah, something serious, Special Machinery. Yeah, were on there getting busy and shit. You know what I'm saying. I produced the whole joint, me and me and my guy Jimmy Dukes. He's a producer from out of Buffalo. We produced the whole joint and how many songs? Ten? Yeah? Yeah,

enjoins me and Conway dumping going crazy. Yeah, And I feel like last year Conway kind of like he had a great year. He did drumwork for us and stuff, but I feel like he kind of kicked back on releasing music at a normal pace. So I know this year he is not playing Yeah even lowder him and Jay Ski's just dropped. I know his album comes out in April. When is you know what date you guys are dropping this? Uh for July Augustus, and shit, you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna hit him one more time,

one more solo before the year route. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna give him three projects this year. I feel like you just celebrated the anniversary of the album with Benny, and I made me feel like, damn time Flies, was it five years? It was five years? Man? And uh we actually on the low. We and we in the studio right now cooking you and Benny right now,

but part two. Yeah, and it sounded like, damn man, it's surprise and it hit a hunger that we still got right like it's like, Wow, we still say is good together and we still you know what I'm saying, we bring the best out each other. So it's one of my favorite album covers. Too. Appreciate that stating shot too is on the way y'all, y'all get ready for that man. So that might come this year too, it's a strong possibility. If not, it's definitely coming next year. Yeah,

you ain't playing, bron ain't this guy's not playing. I'm in my bag right now, you know what I'm saying. One hundred. So what is the difference between doing an entire project with Benny whatch you've already done you're currently working now, and then getting in with Conway? Do they have a big difference in terms of just how they worked it? Like like, well, yeah, yeah, it's a difference

because Conway's more late than anybody. Well he's the latest guy alive, what you mean, Like he just be like I'll be there at ten, but he comes to like, you know, that's my brother. I love Conway. But yeah, it's definitely different. And shit, me and Ben, you know, we was recording for a longer period of time, you know what I'm saying. We've been doing this here for together for a long time. Yeah, since like seven o eight, probably six, So you guys we got a lot more

chemist chemistry of course, you know what I'm saying. Uh, Me and Conway, we ain't record as much, but we still got history and shit. But you know, the recording process is still really like the same though. We still go in there and give it our best. It's a very competitive situation. It's anytime, good way room. It's a great anytime. Like you know, me and the Spinners is a few spinners right that I sunk with. Anytime we get together. It's a very competitive situation, you know what

I'm saying, And it brings out the best. So you know, y'all expect to hear some great ship that's great special machinery. Yeah, I like that man's records features. Yeah, we got Lloyd Banks on it. Come on, man, yeah, man, I got dropping so much just news, just yeah, man, I got Lloyd Banks on there. We got Pharaoh Mantra on there. Did anyone ever tell you look like Pharaoh Mantch a little bit or a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, man, Pharah Mantch didn't have hair, right,

I could see it. Parah Manches one of them one though. He's one of them ones and you don't hear his name enough when we talk about like the greats. Farah Manch is one of them guys. Yeah, so you know that shit is coming bad, like you know uploaded though, Man, I'm bloaded, you ain't playing this year? Hey, So you're like you've gotten these like huge co signs from guys like KD, guys like Kevin Obviously I'd already said Kevin Durrant,

who's the Phoenix Sun? Now? By the way, Lebron James riding around listening to your music, like for you, like when you see Lebron is like just a fan, Like, what's that feel like to know, like arguably the greatest player of all time? It's like extremely tapped in. That feels great. Yeah. Yeah, coming from where I come from, you know what I'm saying, It's it's amazing. You know

what I'm saying. I'm not used to, like I'm always used to like being dope, but like people not knowing about it, right, It's almost like those co signs mean a lot more than like some of these industry costs science that you kind of feel like you need to be like solidified, right, It's like fuck that KD and Lebron are bumping my shit. Fuck what you think facts and it's naturally organic, you know what I'm saying. They fill it music, you know what I'm saying. So that shit,

that shit is beautiful. I feel like I might have seen you in the studio with KD. Am I tripping? Nah? You ain't tripping, man, You ain't tripping, you know what I'm saying. KD, KD he been behind the scenes working with me and ran on some things, you know what I mean, Me and Ransom, So you know, me and Ransom and KD, we like, you know, got some things

cooking up. Y'all can expect something some powerful. Well listen for people who don't know, Kevin Durant did have a record label back in the day when he first was the OKC. He did have a go at the music industry. Is he trying to spend the block? And I wouldn't say trying, I'm gonna say he's spinning the block heavy with Ransom and thirty eight Special, Yeah, I would say that. You know, So, did you guys sign to do like

a like an album with him? We just we just added right now, we just you know, we just we just building. You know. Would you signed with Kevin Durant? I don't. I don't. I don't really like even the words sign. Would you partner with KD on the project? I would definitely. Are you guys partnering on the project? That's the strong But yeah, that's that's definitely what's happening. We definitely partnering on so you Ransom Kevin Durant partnering on the body of work? Wow? Yeah. And Katie's got

a great year for this rap ship. So like he does, how much input does he have? Does he help him with picking beat? Yeah? Yeah, full hands on and on. You know what I'm saying, given all a lot of input. You know, he got a good solid you know, we all come from the same claw file as what we like. Iss sure, so you know, you know that's how that is, you know, And we're just running through reaching out, coming up the production and that's that's a big deal, you

know what I'm saying. So you got to come to Phoenix now, I definitely do come to the hometown. Man. Yeah, I'm supposed to. I'm supposed to be going out there sometime soon as Ship. We got some great recording studios out there, that's what DMX recorded a lot of Ship and Little Wayne did the Carter three out there and Hazy you know got we got, we got some good spots to to lay down some uh some partnered albums with Kevin Durant, that's for sure. Oh no, yeah, I

already hit man. You got to come out for the playoffs because you know what making them. I mean, we're gonna be in. We're going to the finals. You know what I'm saying. As long as Katie's healthy, as long as his foot is okay and he don't slip on the court anymore, we'll be all right, do you Okay? So if you're if you're working with KD, are you automatically like that's your squad whatever team he's on. Hell yeah, yeah,

so your son's fans fan, right, Hell yeah? Realized. You gotta realize, like before before the NBA started supporting me and Ship, you know what, I me really watched sports. So you were never a big sports guy anymore? Was a sports guy. I can't even tell you who went to the Super Bowl last year, and I don't even know who won a championship last year. You know what a year before that? No, No, that is a life I wish I had. I let so much shit that

I can't control. Stress me out so much because I'm such a sports fanatic and I gambled on so much shit. I'm like, I don't know any of these guys. I'm not playing in the games, but somehow my life is so wrapped up into it's like some gang shit, Like I'm a I'm a fucking Suns fan. Like I've given so much of my money to Phoenix Suns shit, Like if you were to go to my closet round, I

probably have one hundred jerseys. It's it's really sickening, like but I'm just glad that I've already bought three KT jerseys. They haven't got delivered yet, but I can't wait. Shout shout out to the Suns man. I went to Katy's house once Freddie Gibbs during the pandemic had his birthday. There. It was like a little barbecue and I was wearing a son's Rex Chapman jersey, and I got I talked with KD for about forty five minutes and he was giving me props and I was like, I've told him.

Then I was like, hey, man, would you ever come to Phoenix. He had just went to Brooklyn, you know, so I like Phoenix. I was like, man, look, well have you buddy any time? Looking it ended up working out. I'm gonna have to give you my jerseys to get him signed though, Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. Anyway, Well listen for you. What is what do you think the difference

was between your last two projects? Because I do feel like your last two projects did kind of put you in a different place in terms of I think recognition, notoriety, even though you're a veteran, even though you've been doing this for Honestly, man, I think it's just time and m Yeah, because prior to that, I haven't released in two years. My last project came out in twenty twenty, right, so I wasn't even in expecting this kind of response.

I felt like I was just warming back up because I was kind of cold, right, you know what I'm saying. So when I put it out, you know, it's just the quality of the music and the time, and you know what I mean, That's really all it is. I didn't do nothing different, yo, I'm telling you though, Man, you're one of the greats. Man. You know, I appreciate that forreat, no real shit, Like when it comes to this rapping shit, Yeah, I'm knocking shit down, man, and

you be so smooth. I appreciate that shit you be saying in the way you say it. It just be like it's not just like some low hanging fruit like rap shit. You know, because a lot of people get credit for like being great rappers and like they're great, but like they're really just saying like some really like low hanging fruit shit. You'd be saying the slickest shit where you're like, oh, yeah, like that's some life lesson shit wrapped up into some like Yeah, I appreciate it

for sure. Man. Is there anybody out there besides you know, the immediate guys we'd associate you with when it comes to like Benny and Conwey, those guys who you're just a fan of from far like who You're just like, yo, I see what this guy's doing. I might not have worked with them yet, but I fuck with their I just fuck with their talent, their skill, their music, whatever it might be. From I like the l Russell Kid. He's dope, amazing, and you guys have a crazy independent

hustle to pay what you want. You know. I like that kid too. He's dope too. I think he's he's dope, you know what I'm saying. He's he's got very entertaining raps. I always say, like, I haven't heard someone talk about pimping in the in a way like that. It's too short. When I was a kid and that's two times is great.

But Larrussell, I feel like you guys should connect because you guys, you've been building this community with your fan base for so long, and I feel like he's all about the similar like staying independent, building community with your fans, giving them an opportunity to kind of back up what you're doing with their with their pocketbook, because like you said, man, that streaming shit is like somebody can stream your at a thousand times and it might not equal them buying

a hoodie, you know what I'm saying. And it's like to them, they're like all I do is listen to this. But it's like, man, if you're really independent, I think it's important that you figure out ways to monetize your fan base and give them opportunity to support because they really do want to support. It's not like you're taking advantage of your fans. You're giving like, Hey, they want to support. They know what's up. They know you're not

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blue choo dot com and try it for free. Are you gonna be doing I know you're doing like spot shows? What about like a full tour? I'm actually on a full tour right now, so you know I actually put it together. I have about like thirteen dates and right now we got about eight left, you know what I'm saying. So you know I got a Gone and Grove, I got LA then shit, DC, shout out to DC. I be there on third, Uh Buffalo on this eighth. What's

your biggest market outside of upstate New York? Like when you look at the metrics and the numbers, UH, New York City and Los Angeles. Yeah, because I feel like I feel like when you're out here, you got the fans pulling up with the vinyl whether you know, they're ready to get their ship signed, like they ain't playing man. Yeah, now the fans show love many they support heavy for you,

I think that you're a high level MC. You're me and you are probably similar in age in terms of probably the type of shit we grew up listening to. What are your like, top five albums, albums ever, not the best album, but your personal favorite. First, I'm gonna say Ready to Die. M I mean, no Life after Death, life life after That, But I mean some people like Ready to Die because the nostalgia purposes. Now I realize, well my age, Ready to Die was a little before

my time. Life after Death I connected with you know what I'm saying, So I would say Life after Death, Mob Deep Murder Music Okay, jay Z Blueprint all right, nahs it was written great, great NAS album, Firmative Actions, Top five no song ever Doctor dreda chronic the first one. Yeah, I like that. The West Coast in there, Yeah, because that was the first that I remember the ogs like playing. I really had a heavy influence on my all my you know, and yeah, that shit was heavy. Talk about

you and Ransom, your guys' friendship, your partnership. Obviously you guys have crazy chemistry together working on a project, partnering up with KD. But what is it about Ransom? You guys, I feel like have each kind of had your own interesting route through the music industry. But you guys are

both still here. You guys are I feel like each hitting your stride in a way that like it's dope to see because I remember getting like Ransom a team shit like fuck might I might have been in high school or at least like eighteen or nineteen, you know what I'm saying, right, But it's just dope to kind of see you guys work together, and I feel like you guys do have similar come ups in a way, you know, talk about your guys' friendship and partnership and

what it is about Rand that you guys click so well. You know, man, me and Ran we alike in a lot of ways, and shit, we really do our own thing and we ain't really don't play the politic game, you know, like this shit is really based on politics a lot of it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, so, like me and Ran, we both got the same attitude that we fuck with who fuck with us? You know what I'm saying. Might we ain't going to the events, We're not gonna be seen, We're not shaking too many hands.

We really fuck with who fuck with us? You know that should hinder you in this. It'll also make you question whether or not you're doing the right shit right. It'll subconsciously also influence the music if you actually get too worried about I didn't go to the Rap Caviard party for the Grammys or you know all this bullshit? You know what I mean, right, And not to say that's bullshit because I've been on the Rap Caviar podcast a lot, you know, and from all of that now

I'm playing politics shit, you know. I could see like I was always a fan of Ran, but as a point of time he stopped rapping and I understood he was going through And at that point of time, I realized that it was a way for us to monetize without having to play the politics game. Yep, So, and I went and hollered at him. I had one conversation with him, and he was back active with a vengeance he's been on his ship and he's been going crazy

for sure, you know what I'm saying. So like since then, you know, we we built a lot of a lot of music, you know what I'm saying, and just built a strong partnership. You know what I'm saying. What is this album sounded like that you're working on with mister Durant? Is Is it an EP? Is it a full project? Is it? Like? Honestly, it sounded like some real soul, full heart felt you know what I'm saying, some real soul for hall felt shit. Right now, we got we

we've been working with the producer Bank. Oh yeah, Binker's a legend. Yeah. Bank is going to produce the whole album. That's crazy. Yeah, so you know yeah, Bink's alegend. Yeah, Bink is definitely a legend. That's hard. Yeah, so that's going to be crazy to me, Ryan and Bank. Yeah, that's crazy. You know what it's gonna happen. You guys are gona putut this crazy body of work and now you guys are gonna have to drop one off like once a year for the fans. Yeah, we're ready. We

prepared for that. Yeah, we prepared for that. So much, so much in the works. Man, Hell yeah for you? Was there? What was the catalyst to make you kind of realize that it wasn't about all the politicking, that there was an actual road to not being on a major label, not doing things a conventional way, but yet still getting to the money get into a career. Yeah, that's all. It was like. Man, once I made a couple of dollars, that was it for me. I was like,

all I gotta do is multiply this. Whatever I did to make this amount started with me being able to pay my bills off of music. You know, that was which is a big deal. That was a huge deal. If you can support yourself on your music, you made it right that period and you know it started was like oh wow, like and I would. That's when I kind of like, you know, changed my whole lifestyle. I said, if I could pay my bills off this, I'm not

gonna do it. If I'm doing anything else, I'm being greedy. Yeah, you're being greedy, You're and you're jeopardizing them, you know what I'm saying. So so so that's where it started. So then it was like a if I pay my bills, maybe if I work harder, maybe I could obtain a lifestyle different if I'm doing if I'm doing enough to get the bills paid, if I do a little bit more. So you know, with that and with me making that my only hustle, that was another thing I had to

because you get all the energy in one thing. I had to put all the energy in the one thing. I couldn't have no uh no plan B. See. I realized, like, you know, you get what you're plan for, yeap. You know, so if you if you're like, yo, this might not work, I'm gonna have a plan B, You're gonna get the plan B. Subconsciously, Yeah, you're preparing for the plan for. So you're gonna get what you're prepared for, you know what I'm saying. And if you're and you're gonna get

what you put into it exactly. So if you're if you're putting twenty percent of your energy into whatever else it might be right, and you're only giving the music shake eighty or seventy, right, you're cutting yourself short. Right. So that's basically was my turnaround when I was like, all right, let me let me give my all to this and see what happened, and each year I started, you know, things start getting a little better, you know

what I'm saying, And that's basically what it is. When I, like I said, when I made it my only source of income, I started educating myself on every way I could make some money because it's the only way I can make money. Now. See, when it wasn't my only source of income, it was like, I'm just talented and figure it out. Figure it out. Well, you ain't making no money from nowhere else, right, You're not going to leave a rock on turn You got to turn out.

You're like, let me see what's going on here, How they did that, how they did this. You become extra inquisitive, and that's that was like the whole turning point for me when this was all I had. Did you ever pay attention to There's an R and B singer named Ryan Leslie. Definitely. He was doing a lot of monetizing his fan base away from the major label system. I

feel like early, real early, yeah, real early. He was on it before you know, a lot of guys was really you know, he was one of the first that was really like doing that too. He had his website, Quality Club, I think where you can go in like I think he was putting albums out you can only

buy from him. But for you, you see the benefit of having the streaming platforms eventually get it as well, of course, because you know, that's a whole other source of income, and that's the game that the labels plays, and that's a way for discovery to be hired for you, of course, because if you have Lebron, I'm not sure Lebron's buying the album on PayPal checking it out, Yeah, right, so Ron's streaming it on Apple Music of course, the discus.

You gotta have that visibility, you know what I'm saying. So like I'm not you know, I'm not opposed to dealing with the streaming sites, you know what I'm saying. You just want to make sure you get as much as you can. You ever chat with with Braun at all. I ain't neat Broun yet. He never hits you the DM. He just you just woke up and yeah, he just like he's yeah and then yeah, each day he posted me like full times that shit's crazy. Yeah that was crazy. Yeah, Yeah,

that was crazy. You gotta get him out of the show man, Yeah, definitely, that'll be crazy. Definitely. I'm gonna go to the game at night actually playing the Suns. Yeah, playing the Suns. I might be there too, I might take my kids. Okay, is Katie gonna be there? Nah? He ain't gonna bet he's gonna be in Arizona. Yeah, we haven't. Hey, we got to stop the interview real quick to tell you about our family at odd socks. Baby, that's right, shout out to odd Socks, little godfather sock

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the best producers. But like you guys delivered one of my favorite albums last year. Yeah, I appreciate that. Harry is like amazing man and real good guy man, Like you know, he's seen the potential in me Early. That's what really make me appreciate him, you know what I'm saying. For him to do a whole project with me early when my you know what I mean before everybody was you know what I'm saying, So that was dope. You know.

He actually had me come out to his house out in the Hampton's and I stayed out there for about five days. He's doing well. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I was out there for like five days and we recorded the whole project and shit, we actually sat there, I picked out He had a bunch of beats to the side for me. I picked out probably like four, and then we actually dug through samples for the rest and from scratch,

all from scratch. That's why that it sounds so beautiful because you're sitting there digging like, oh nah, that's the sample right there, you know what I mean. And that was my first time working with a producer like that, like collaborating, elaborating like that, you know what I'm saying, Like like like you're helping find a sample, like like yeah,

like yeah, nah, they're still there. You felt me, I mean, yeah, you helped make the beat then, you know, because we just heard I mean I just heard Rick Rubin say he doesn't touch anything, he doesn't know how to sample, he doesn't know how to He's there for his taste, and he's one of the greatest producers of all time, right right, right right, But you know with me being yeah, yeah,

hell yeah. So like that ship, that ship was a beautiful, beautiful situation and it came out beautiful, man, you know what I'm saying. And then you guys just got the features after because there's some great interest. We went and got the features after. Yeah, Harry reached out and got Jim and Wizz. You know what I'm saying. I went

and got being ran. I do got a shout out to wiz Man because you'll always see Whiz still pop up on like independent rap shit all that's big man, and like Whizz is Wiz like he's like such a superstar fact where it's like, damn Wiz is on the thirty especially, that's crazy. I gotta hear what that sounds like, that's fire man. Shout out, Wiz, did he did you? Obviously he's up on what you're doing if he decided

to do it, because he's not doing anything. I don't think you can pay Whiz to get on the record. I take that back. You could definitely pay anybody to get on the record if the bags right. But for the most part, you see Wiz jumping on something, that's because he wants to do it, right. Yeah, so he must be you know, tapped in, locked in you guys chopping up at all? Was it more of a hairy thing? It was a thing. Yeah, you know what came out Dope. Appreciate that came out super Dope. Now this year at

least three projects, three joints. How many songs is on this new album? Nah? So I kind of like how you keep it? Yeah, manageable. I'll be trying to tell guys, you don't got to give him too much. If I gave him twenty, right, you could do two albums. And even if I gave him twenty, yeah, it's only gonna last the same amount of time. They ain't gonna appreciate

it the last the same amount of time. What's good about your fans though, is that they consume projects, right, So I think that, like I agree with you, eight nine, ten records is enough right certain artists. To me, it's the same thing with when I think of seeing when I see artists was zero fans putting out albums. It's frustrating because I'm like, yo, that's like one impression. You take that album and put out ten singles if you don't have fans, and then let each one of those

songs equal a new impression. You know what I mean? For you, you have fans, so they wanted your body, and you're really good at putting together bodies. Of work. Not everybody that so appreciate that. Who's taking care of production on this one? You told me? Oh yeah, so I gotta I produced. I don't even produce one joint on this and I went around, Damn man, Harry's on there. Okay, I got a joint with Harry. I got a kid named Don Carrera that I just discovered fire and uh,

ship man, you gotta pardon me. I've been working on so much. Damn you just said you have, like, yeah, this album, you know you gotta part me if what about features on this one? That's dropping? That's all what's technically out? Oh yeah, so right now on this one, I kept a home team. I got Ransom, I got shan On, I got Fred Degason made rest and paces you know what I'm saying. And I got Flee Lord shout out to fleelord man. Yeah, I kept it. I kept it all in the house, kept it easy. I

like it. Man. What are you aspiring to do with the Trust brand? Are we signing artists? Are we trying to because I think you could low key do a lot of consulting for like some of these labels or some of these artists who need help with figuring out how to connect with their fan base. And I agree, I agree, and ship. You know what I'm saying. Maybe when I get a little more time on my hands and ship, you know what I'm saying, I be more open to, like, you know, dealing with more artists and

you know what I'm saying. But right now it'd be hard to focus on me. And you know, what's the distro situation for you? Are you doing like a straight distro kid tune core? You got? So I deal with I deal with I deal with a few different I got a few different distro situations. I deal with Orchard, I deal with mone Art which was E one yep. I deal with Empire as well, So you know, I dealt with them all. You know what I mean? You know,

but yes, that's what I do. I don't really do the distro kid or the tune call for several different reasons. And ship because you know, a lot of artists don't know that when you want to build come up, you know, those platforms ain't gonna give you the visibility that you really need. Well, they're not gonna pitch you. They're not gonna pitch you, right, and that's a big deal. So like you know, but also Ron James posting your song

about all the DI visibility, I mean you can tell. Yeah, so yeah, it's all about It's like, it's really all about your situation. I just think I think with distroal Kid, I mean, and I work with Empire, so I got love for Gazi in that whole team. I just think that the upside for distal Kid, if you're an independent artist, is an easy way to pay people because they have

the split system. So if like he makes a beat and you could upload on, you can upload it and his account gets They got their own account system, producer for the feature whatever the shit cutting the guy who shopped the video, you know what I mean, and then everyone's getting paid out and you don't have to worry about that ship. But yeah, no, teach his own man, all right. So we got tons of new music on the way for sure, three projects. The album is out.

It'll be on streaming services though win three thirty one Friday, three thirty one, three thirty one. If you buy the album right now, you can buy it for thirty eight dollars or more or more whatever you want to do in five thousand with me, you know, new album with Ransom on the Way definitely and Kevin durant is Katie does he have a verse? Not yet, not yet. You might pop up on that though, Okay. Uh. Conway album Special Machinery definitely June, July, August maybe definitely. Then another

album and then maybe a new album with Benny. Yeah, Jesus, yeah, you ain't playing man, Yeah, I'm loaded, man loaded. Well, look I appreciate you pulling up. Man. Always go support this guy. The new album is out, new album is out right now, make sure y'all go and get that. Hey, can you give me, give me your favorite off of this new album? In your head? What's your favorite? Like couple of lines you have on the album? Oh shit, damn. He's like, I don't remember what's on the album because

I'm recording thirty I'm trying to think. Uh, don't compare me to generic rap dudes. These niggas talking about birds they never seen, like they pterodactyls. There it is thirty eight Special, my guy, my god, boo fire