#294 - Jae Skeese

So what makes this like the official I guess like debut. Man, It's something I've been working on for a long time. You know, I've been working on it since like the end of twenty twenty. You know what I mean, has like it's my whole life. You know what I mean. When I think about abolishing certainties, it's just my story, you know what I mean. I say it on the first record. It's like I'm telling my story, you know what I'm saying. So I feel like with the other uh,

with some of the other projects that I have. You know, I was more so because it was like, you know, you got Revolver Osolt, you got Iroquois Plisk and a joint I deal with big ghots authenticity check. That's me more so just trying to show people that I belong here in the game and like I can spit, you

know what I mean. And with this joint, it's like you get a full like you get a full kind of a feel for my artistry, like when it comes to not only just Ryman, because you know Ryman is the easy part, but putting together like real songs and putting together something that someone can really digest and really get a feel of who this artist is. There it is Man first of all. For people who don't know you, originally, before you linked with drum Work and Conway, you were

kind of working. You were like the sneaker guy. So you were working out of a sneaker store in Buffalo. Yeah. So were you kind of like ever known to be a rapper at that same time or were you kind of like everyone's sneaker plug, Like No, I was, you know, I was working, like you know, I was the manager at the sneaker spot for a long time, but you were the plug. Yeah kind of not really, not really

because I wasn't on no back door shit. You couldn't set some shoes aside for someone I could if you if I really fucked with you, yeah, you know what I'm saying. But outside of that, I wasn't really doing that type of shit. I was just really working there to try and support my dream, you know what I mean. And uh, you know, people definitely knew that I was. You know, I was rapping back then too, because I was doing like ciphers and uh, they're at the store.

Actually I was doing that. I was doing shows all around the town. I was doing shows out of town. So you know, it was just something that I was doing in the time so that I could, you know, just support the dream and just support myself. So what ended up kind of being the bridge from you doing

that to signing with the drum work. It was really like the pandemic, Like once the pandemic came around, I got furlough from work because you know, nobody was going to the sneaker store to go buy no kicks and shit. So you know, we ended up, you know, all getting furloughed there at the store, and you know, I was just locking in and you know, when the opportunity came back to go back to the store and work. The company I was working for, they just you know, company.

If you ever heard of DTLR Villa, Oh yeah, DTLR. Yeah. I was working with DTLR and they just you know, it was just a few situations that happened there in the store where I just wasn't comfortable working in the store, and I ended up leaving, and uh, you know, two days later, that's when Conway reached out to me. You know what I mean, Like I kind of just took a big leap of faith and just trusted God, and you know, I didn't know where I was going to go next or what was going to happen next, but

you know, it just didn't feel right. I wasn't I felt like I wasn't being treated like a human being at the end of the day that have value. Well, I feel like to the last couple of years you've kind of gone through like some real like artist development, Like I feel like you've been putting out music, but you've also been kind of able to sit to the side and watch, you know, go to these big RISELDA shows or go do south like last year you did

south By Southwest. I think I forget why Conway couldn't make it, but I remember there was a show that last year I saw you do with a stove. God, but like it was dope to see like kind of like, I feel like every time I see you, you're kind of like getting the like standing on your own a little bit more because I feel like it's hard to come in when you're coming in with somebody like Conway, because everyone's going to kind of associate you guys together.

But I feel like you've done a good job of kind of being your own man, you know what I mean. That's that's like one of the biggest things for me. Is crazy to you even bring that up, because everything that I've done to this point has been to support that, right, you know what I mean, Because like you said, it is kind of hard, Like you know, it's hard to have two stars really shine right together. But I know, like you know, I know I'm a star too, so you know, I got to do a good job of

making that known. And just you know, anytime that I do have a chance to kind of you know, do a show separate, like separately or you know, just do my own thing, you know what I mean. I always take those opportunities, Like Conway, that's my big brother, you know what I'm saying, Like shout out to the big bro. You know what I'm saying. But you know I gotta shine too, you know what I'm saying. And that's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, March big month for you man. Yeah,

for sure. You guys got the joint project which dropped on the tenth you got the album? Was was this kind of like the conscious decision to be like, Yo, it's your time right now, like put out the runway. Put out the Runway man, and you know, shout out to Chad and everybody over at drum Work Conway for kind of putting that together. My man, Dave over an empire, you know what I'm saying. Like it was, it was like a conscious decision to say, Yo, let's just put

out this project. You know, we have been sitting on it for a little bit, paying provided offit. Let's put it out and then you know, why not just drop the drop the album two weeks later because it's like, you know, you already have the floor, you know what I mean? Was there ever? Wasn't there supposed to be a drum Work compilation? Yeah? Yeah, and it still is. That'll be coming, I believe, if not April, it'll be May. So that's on the way, Yes, on the way. So

much drum work happening. Yeah, man, yeah, it's time because you know we've been we've been grinding for like the last two and a half years for sure. So it's like, you know, now it's like the perfect time because people have been waiting on it, you know what I mean, Like we all been putting out our own little projects and videos and different things, making sure that our presence is known. But now it's like, now, let's do the drum work thing for sure. Abolished uncertainties. Why the title?

So when I was thinking about naming the album, it was it came at a time where I wasn't sure what was where I was going really in life. Like I said, like, you know, I just quit my job, and you named this a while ago. Yeah, I named this a while ago. Yeah, this was back in twenty twenty. I was thinking of a name, and so, you know, I was I was just always unsure, man, being from both you know, it wasn't a lot of opportunities for people to get on with music, especially hip hop, you

know what I'm saying. So you know when Griselda, you know, they kicked down the door, it was kind of like well, shit, maybe I do got a shot at this for real. And then you still got uncertainties though, because you know, how am I gonna do it? That I wasn't sure of, you know what I mean. So you know, with this album, I feel like I'm really I'm taking whatever whatever, like

chains and whatever. It's almost like cuffs that you have on your mind because you can you can kind of enslave yourself, you know what I mean, you be a slave to your mind because you start thinking so much and then you got all these thoughts and they just go and go and go, and yeah, exactly, so you know I'm abolishing I was thinking about it. I was like, Yo, I'm gonna abolish these chains that I had on my mind. You know what I'm mean. It's like abolishing slavery, I

should say. But yeah, like take those chains off of my mind because with this album, this is like my first real statement and you know in the game, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's how it really feels on the album. Uh should I got Conway on there, I got I got Freeway on there. Shout out my bro Freeway man, he came through. I got Jillian Haynesworth she's a poet from the town. I got my men Terry King on there, shout out my man, Terry King.

He's an awesome comedian. And then I got cold to Seville. She's an awesome artist. She she sings, she raps, she does it all. So when you hit Freeway for the Future, is it pretty like? Just do you gotta pay for it? I'll tell you how how I even got that feature. So Beanie Siegel and Freeway, they both came through Buffalo and they had a show. And I was at the studio that night and Conway was supposed to pull up and come to the studio and they were gonna pull up.

So they pulled up conn Connen. I'm sorry Beanie and Free they pulled up and we were just sitting in the studio just vibing, and so I'm at DJ Coles. He he was like, yo, start playing your album. And so, you know, Beanie and Free they came into stool and con Never he never came through. Uh Bro came. You know what I'm saying. They came in the studio and uh, you know, I'm playing all my all my records from about some certainties that I had so far and uh,

I got this record on there. It's called out Here that came on, and and the flow that I was on there is just crazy. It's almost kind of like some freeways, right, you know what I'm saying. He's a big inspiration to me for sure. And so you know, the record comes on and I just see him. So he's sitting in the corner. I'm sitting in like the middle of the studio. He's sitting in the corner and

I'm watching him. Like his whole reaction is just like Yo, this one is crazy, Like you know what I'm saying, going back and forth, and you know, the song goes off and I'm like, yo, bro, like it's wrong for you on there. He's like, well, I'm like, Yo, it's wrong for you on that record. Like I see you over there vibing like you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Like, he was like, yo, run it back. So we played it back. He was like, yo,

let's do it. So immediately like I'm like, yo, my man, Tony Boy was there. I'm like, yo, Tony Boy, load up the session. Let's get it. He did his verse right there on the spot. It was love Hey, we got to stop the interview real quick to tell you about our family at odd Socks. Baby, that's right, shout

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Harden Underscore, Las Vegas. Check out more info about them at Hardean Las Vegas dot com. Let's get back to the interview. I feel like I was talking to Conway on camera about his relationship with Beanie Siegel, and he insinuated that there might be something coming down the pipeline with Beanie Siegel. I wish I knew down. Lockload is a crazy record. Yeah that was. That was like a year and a half ago. Yeah, yeah, Lockload is crazy. My god. A uh so, you're a big sneaker guy.

Give me your top five like sneakers silhouettes of all time silhouettes, so not even like specific. So I'm gonna go Jordan ATE's, Jordan fives, Jordan's one's for sure. You know, I'm the separation of Jordan miss and Jordan Highs. I've been going by that for the longest. Air Force ones, of course, and for that last spot. It's kind of tough, but I'm gonna say, I really love the air Raids, Okay, I really love the Ara. You're gonna put the Jordan

Ights number one? Yeah, Aquas broquals black and chrome ights. What we're talking about, Bro, that's the hardest shoe ever. Bro give me the cemthree is tough too, you know what I'm saying. I love, but you know. So you're like an eight. You like eights, like eights, that's my shoe. You're like a unicorn. Yeah, for real, that's that's my shoe. I feel like my shoe. I feel like I don't. I don't own a pair of eights, even the Awkwua eights. I'm just I'm straight. They're just like the straps and

so you got it. It's just a certain way you got wearing. You get dripping in them joint store, I'm sure you can. Yeah, for sure. I don't think I'm interested in getting dripping. Some Jordan Nates man to each his and the sixes. I feel like six is sit you said there's I feel like anytime six is dropt recently, they're sitting everywhere. Yeah, you know, I feel that way too. I think they just dropped like some gray ones. Gray ones are everywhere, Yeah, are everywhere. For a fact, they

got to bring back some of those classic colors. Man, those Jordan Force, those sb's that are about to drive crazy fire crazy. I'm hoping I can get my hands on them. But I don't. Never have no luck on the Nike app. So the Nike app is trash? Are those on the Nike app because they're SB. I don't know if they're I think they might drop on the Nike app. Yeah, there was this store that we used

to go to, man, back in the day. It was over on Elmwood in Buffalo, and uh it was called Sunday I believe Sunday Skate Shop and they would get like those collabse Like I got a pair of ones from there back in the day. Man, It's it's tough to get your hands on the SB collapsed when they do them. If someone goes to Buffalo, where do you get Buffalo wings from Buffalo wings from? You gotta go to I love Kelly Corner Wings. I've been there. Yeah,

Kelly Corner. That place is interesting. Yeah, it's different and they got a different type of like hot wing too, because it's not like a sauce. Yeah. It was just some old lady there smoking and serving drinks with the glasses. She was just one person's staff. Yeah, she's been in there thugging for a long time. Because the first time I went there was maybe five six years ago. I was like, I hope she sweats in our wings because I feel like that would be the special ingredient, not

for real, from Kelly's Corner for real. So go to Kelly's Corner, get you a Guinness. It's definitely like a bar. Yeah, it's a bar. Yeah, listen for you like talk about for like your if you know, if you've been playing this album for two years, you came up with the title during the pandemic. Do you feel any pressure you nervous at all and like how people are going to

receive something that you've put so much into. No, I'm not nervous at all, because you know, I put my put my life into it, you know what I mean. It's authentic. It's like it's one of those projects where when you walk away from it, like I said, you just get a real sense of who the artist is. And every song, Like me as an artist period, I've never I've never wanted to be put into a box. And so there's a lot of different flows, a lot of different sounds on their different beats, and so it's

got something for everybody, you know what I mean. Like when I say I'll be joking with my men and child all the time and I say, yo, we go on Billboard number one, and I always like I'm serious because you know what I mean. I feel like the project just speaks to everybody. It's a song on the album that everyone can like, but as a whole, like as a body of work, it's just a beautiful piece of work. Like I can't really say too much else about it, and it's me, you know what I mean.

So if you fuck with Jay Skis, you know what I mean, Like, you'll appreciate it, you'll love it. And if not, if you don't even know who Jay Skis is, it's a song on there that's gonna really you win, you know what I'm saying. For the like when I always wonder this when these like Big Ghost albums happen. Have you met Big Ghosts? Does anybody know who this guy is? Yo? The crazy shit about Big Ghost is one day, randomly right, I think this was after a

crack in the nineties came out. He randomly followed me, and so I knew about Big Ghosts from like two thousand and nine. He was like on Twitter. Yeah, nah, not even on Twitter. I used to read his his blog spot or whatever or whatever it was. I remember he had it. I used to read that joint and so I'm because he had the one joint about Drake and a few other reviews I don't even write from like the perspective of ghost face or whatever, and that shit was just mad funny. I'm like, Yo, this shit

is crazy. So when I saw his name follow me, I instantly followed back and then I DMed him like, yo, bro, much respect. Man, I've been fucking with you for a long time, and he hit me back like yo, nah, I fuck with you too, So that whole take like came through Instagram DM. I've never met that man. So he does not actually have anything to do with the music, does he? No, he does, he does. He has a lot to do, so he's sending you beats? Is he making the beats? So he makes beats? Well? I think he.

I think he. I think he has a team that he works with to to and they probably never met him either. Yeah, probably not. Either that or everybody's just keeping of the secret. But you know him, man, Yeah, shout out to Big Ghosts man. Run it up man, Big Home. Uh, you're obviously a huge video game guy. What games are you playing lately? Yo? To be honest, I haven't had no time to play no video games. Bro. Not playing Hogwarts, I'm not playing Ship. I've been, you know,

I've been. I've been so so focused on his music, bro, and just moving around and doing what I gotta do. Like, the most I might play is like maybe Mario Ultimate Mario or whatever on my on my Nintendo switch on the switch. Can you move around with the switch? Yeah, I do, I do. I keep the switch on you. You gotta keep the switch on you as long as it's the Nintendo kind. Yeah, exactly. What about all time? What are your favorite games? Your top five? Ship? Metal

Gear Solid for sure? What's the best Metal Gear Solid to you? To me, it's Metal Gear Solid three, The Sons a Liberty Joint, you know what I'm saying. I love that joint. I thought it was dope, like once once you could, you know what I'm saying. The first person mode, I thought that shit was just mad ill and then the story period for Metal Gear Solid is just dope as hell. You know. Part one is my

favorite game? Member, Yeah, for sure, I like I like Part one two, but yeah, metal Gear Solid for sure. Final Fantasy that rate game disc, yep, yeah, it was crazy. Was it three or two discs? It was? It was too it was yeah, it was two Golden Eye Double O seven that was one of my favorites for sure. We didn't as well, you don't think so I just played it recently. I just played recently too. That ship

was raw, you know what. I played it on the mod so I didn't have the actual like, yeah, see you gotta you gotta really have the controller all that, bro. That's maybe that was why, Yeah, that's gonna take you. Matt it was it's a specific Matten. No. I think it was Madden eight man who was on the cover of eight I want to say it was like Seawn Alexander or somebody. That ship was raw. That was like the onliest one. It was the one where you had like the Mulligans and ship. I always just felt like

the game player. The NFL two K I figured which two K was. One of the now the two K joints was fire. It was Vince Young, Okay, one of the one of the two k's were dope. I was gonna say it was the one with Randy Moss. I think they all had Randy Moss. Yeah, two K, both two k's. It was like NFL had Randy every year. And then AI was on the cover of the first like three copy NBA ones. Last one though, is a Resident Evil too for the PlayStation Classic Classic Love Resident

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and that's the one I was talking about. Jillian Hainesworth, she's on there. Oh. I got Origino on the album too. I don't even know how I missed that. He's a singer from the town as well. He's an artist. He's a great artist as well. But Red kool A I talk about three different stories, very short versus and you know, I'm just describing different things that have happened in my life and why I am the way that I am.

And then Jillian gets on there and she does this poem for about a minute and a half man, and it's like some of the things she says in the poem, it's just like every time I listen to it, it gives me chills, you know what I mean. So it's a it's a just an amazing song man in this production by Buddha and Grants. It's just it's just an

amazing song. Period. So the album's out. You got the album with Conway out drum work project coming soon, and he how's the Conway album sounding that we've been waiting for? I mean, it's Conway, Bro, It's you know what I mean. You know, like you don't exactly know what you're getting with Conway, but you know what you're getting with Conway. Bro. He had told me that he was waiting for a really big feature. Yeah. I don't know if it happened. I haven't heard anything about it yet because I'm not

sure who it is. But jay Z jay Z that's what he told me. I was like, Yo, what the fuck? What is that? Bro? You know I'm waiting for that whole feature. Yeah, I mean shit, I hope it happens. Man, you know what I'm saying. Like Jay is, Jay is the goat, so you know what I mean. But Nah, the Conway album so far, man, it's it's fire man. Are you on it? Shit? Hell yeah, I'm on there. We got a song on there. It's it's crazy. I

don't want to give away too much about it. I probably heard my project, but you think i've heard the whole alka for I think there's one or two songs chats and I haven't heard yet. Yeah, the album's crazy. Album is crazy for sure. Man, album is crazy. People by merch. You're gonna do the vinyl drop you can do all that. I don't know because I think that's going to be through the label, but I'm pretty sure you know it'll be something like that. Well you can do.

You're gonna do merch through the label. I believe so through Empire. Mm hmmm, all right, well listen. Yeah, so we'll see what happens. Jay Skis appreciate you pulling up. Go get the album. And he just killed this crazy fucking freestyle. It was insane. Different YouTube video, but go watch that, no doubt no doubt, appreciate your brother, you already, yes, sir,