#293 - AD & T-Rell

Congratulations fellas, It's good to see y'all. I'd like to also start this interview by pointing out that a lot of people seem to think that I had replaced y'all or some ship, and that was not I definitively got hit up at lunch the day all that stuff has happened, but by Adam, and he asked if I wanted to just because I've been a guest on the show before. He was like, how you want to fill in for a day, and I had said yes, prior to understanding

what was going on, exactly what was going on. I heard that the Lush guy got fired and I was like, oh, well that's you know. And then I called you and then you were like, I was like, a ship, well it should be hey, I said, go do it? No, no, no no, for sure, what I'm saying lush two point oh here that I don't know. I don't know that you called us. I said, you called him corny, I said, I said, I said, I don't know dude, but like watching him on camera, he comes off like a cornball.

And so then he went on some podcasts, a bunch of people tagged me in, and what's up with all y'all with this white and white crime. I don't I have no problems with that guy, y'all, Just everybody, I really got zero problems with that dude, Like I don't know him. Like he's definitively my elder people got problems with each other. You're gonna have to take your first fade and hip hopped up here. I'm like, whatever, Yeah, now, now he had said, so, I don't think he's any

problems with that dude, you know what I mean. Anyway, congrats guys, Congrats you because the spot Harry inspiring. Guys are killing it. I mean, there's been a lot of you know, a lot of narratives about you guys have popped up on a lot of places. So I think this probably this is the first time besides your own platform, you guys have been on camera talking about this, because

you guys have been on like academics thing on camera. Yeah, this is the first thing I told I told everybody we wasn't gonna talk about nothing until we us all together. But uh, you know, since we like you, I'm glad that I'm hungedn't come to pack me out. Yeah, pulling, pulling, whooping ass right now. We've been whooping ass all week Jesus. I mean sometimes you need that, you know what I'm saying,

so we can relax and do our thing. Give me like an idea of what fig Community World is gonna be because obviously, uh, the YouTube channel will started a while ago here we go, is that when we're gonna start. No, I'm just you know, when you go to the page, good, there's a bunch of y'all on there obviously smack you pun do you know who? Like? Like is it gonna be? Because the Wednesday show is obviously something that the fans are gonna miss. You guys are gonna be on your

own version of that. We're doing Wednesdays live. I mean so yeah, Fakemmunity World basically is our network. So we'll just definitely become no jumper. We'll ease into that. You know somewhere it's a bunch of podcasts and different shows, different blogs, like you know, different series and stuff like that. So we'll we'll we'll begin with what we already have right now, which is a Wednesday show, and we named it.

We renamed it shame on you at the end of the day, and uh, we'll take the We Hungry show, which is their food show. Great sho by the way, were starving or something like that. We're gonna see what You're gonna participate in the food show now? Yeah, so I added myself instead, didn't want to have Jumper. It's hard. It's hard to do a food show for somebody who only likes to eat French rods. Okay, he gotta change

his palette. Where you saying you have white trash food taste because no, no, no, I mean my my favorite food is French rods, So don't hate on he goes to a nice hotel, give me a French rides. You see that white man with the headphones over there? Same thing all he does is dog I mean, just the best side ever. You know what I'm saying? Killing macaronie and cheese? Really? What serving it? Not my mama's What are they selling macaroni and cheese? More prince fries as

a side? Okay? Yeah, I mean I think I told y'all. I think I told y'all, Like like last year, I was like, you know this, I felt like what was happening now was inevitable. You know, I think you cracked it off. I don't know, look at you stir it up ship. You don't want to ask us this? No, might I might have. I think I told y'all like, hey, man, like you guys know you guys could be like for real to drink Champs of the fucking just say that first. So even off the camera, he was like, you take

this ship to the next level. I was like, hmmm, So how how everybody means do it? Do it? Do it? I'm like how, bitch, I don't know how. Like now, I'm just only trying to figure it out, right, Yeah, that's the thing. You just got to figure it out. Then once you figure it out, like okay, this is what they were talking about, all right, now, let's take the steps toward what we need to do. We thought with our life, you know what I'm saying in the show, I mean it was like, like I was saying, it

was inevitable already. You know what I'm saying, We just had to make that move a little faster, just do the world whatever had to you know, happen to a d or whatever the case may be. Were like, all right, well fuck it, it's just time. So let's just you know what I'm saying, pack up and put her big weight boots on and let's do it anyway, you know what I'm saying. And that's just what happened. But the ship was finna happen any was it already in motion?

The ship was in motion like months ago, already happen. And that's because of the page. So people were saying that they've been made the page. Yeah, I've been made that ship for sure. I mean, because that was Melie. Everybody else. No, no, he's gonna say he did it. I'm gonna say I did it. In fact, we're all gonna take the blame. Well, but that's you know, that's due to our situation. Did nigga dinner? You know, if you try to cut our water off, we gotta make

sure we do what we're supposed to do. You know, Like the camaraderie of it seemed like the ship was sinking and we're like, it did feel that way. I think you and I were talking when the when the battle raps, it was happening like who the fuck is going on over there? Bro? You guess fucking dissing each other. I mean, but it was just one day, you know, just one day. And you know, like I said, that ship, you know, I'm not I wasn't putting to ease with

that ship. I was uneasy, you know what I'm saying. When the motherfucker just wake up one day like yo, I'm gonna cancel all this ship. And then I look and I'm like, fuck, we don't have a backup ship. I mean I have Well, we was already doing our own shows or whatever the case may be. You know, we was growing to speaking of that community is like number two in all podcasts. That man, thank you man, congrats. I saw that. I was like, check slot, Bro, is that a big thing? Even so, let's get you the

number one. Even if it's even if it's two three days back. That you're up there two days is a big deal because the pop up there and then like it's three hours and then you know what, I noticed. I'm looking at that ship and I said, why the fuck is our ship under entertainment news m hm instead of music? Some we gotta switch that ship up. Many stay in entertainment news man, get in there, get in that, mom. I might switch my no no, no, Hey is Joe

Budden t real Joe Budden, Heather Smash. I like that, y'all. Like you guys are entertainment network kind of you guys do do music ship you know what I'm saying, But it ain't strictly in music. You know, it's time to step up. It's time to step up to something new

outside of the YouTube channel. The reason why I feel like this was already kind of in the works because I know you a d and I know you are not the most sensitive guy to get that pissed off about someone saying that you had the same four jokes. I said, Oh, this was the perfect catalyst to me, like, we out, because there's no way my guy Ad, who I could bust balls with all all day time, gets that offended by hearing that someone thought he had the same four jokes that he's like, I quit. Fuck y'all,

we out. It was it was more than just the four jokes. There was a ton of shit for this, a ton of shit behind the scenes. But I think the narrative is like that was like the thing that

you were like, I'm out. It was the confiding in somebody that I feel like, yeah, you could talk them on colleagues and stuff like that, because he could have told Trail that it's when it's brought to my attention and you talk to me, tell me how you honestly feel, because to me, if you talk behind my back, you'll talk behind my back about all type of shit, right, So I don't know what the fuck it really is at the end of the day. And it was like, this was it the same week that the Richard Spencer

and I was saying. The timing of everything was just weird. It was like, I call you out for this now this week is and that's one thing people understanding well, like you guys were not friends. It's business. But I'm like, if you leading the conversation, is hey, for our friendship to remain, I think you should come do this over here. So I'm like, I'm looking at it on some friendship. He's wording it as friend Like I'm putting my whole life into this this company for sure, you know what

I'm saying. So I'm like, I just feel like it should have been handled a lot differently because I could take, Hey, you don't want me over here. All right, cool, I'll come do this over here. We can continue the business going. But you know, after hearing everything that transpired, and even after we even made our exit, I'm like, oh, yeah, we made the right decision. Yeah, it felt like a very you know, stressful place to be around. I told my boy, he was like, yo, you wouldn't you wouldn't

be on no jumper. I was like, fuck no, I wann't no part of that toxic guys. But it wasn't stressful for us. When we came into you guys were like the crowd favorite, you know, and you guys kind of kicked off. I feel like you guys literally kicked off the current business model over there. Yeah, like without you, there's no him, and without you, there's no like random

shows that Adam isn't necessarily on camera. We just bought like, you know, a sense of team and camaraderie to the building that wasn't there at first, because before that it was just strictly do the pod, ain't no business and stuff like that. And I was like off of teamwork. And when Trail came, he's like a real overthinker. He's like, look, we gotta be a team so everything was just reinforcing,

and that's how we was moving. You know. He'll come in the office and he'll crack jokes with everybody, like that's what makes the shit fun. We're sitting there saying shit to each other and it was just all love and shit too. So you know, I still think t Rel, you're like a natural bro. I think I told you the interview you did with Jay Stone. I think he did one with Mazzi. I was just like, those are like some of the best, like the best interviews with

Mozzi and Jaystone I've ever seen. And this is something you're new, Like you're not like necessarily interviewing folks like you know what I mean. But I just thought Jaystone I did by myself, Mazzi we did, and the collective we did on the pod, but still do that jar Stone, And it was like a big moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah too, Like some of

those moments too, like are key for me. You know, like especially when you interview on somebody and they like barely talking, they saying one word, or you say something they don't like and they look at you. It's just like how you get out that fucking conversation like that. But I study motherfuckers like you. You know what I'm saying, Like Adam, I study I study off because you guys are like super like great at this shit. Like I'm

studying shit, writing shit down. I'm trying to rememberize and you motherfuckers just hop on the mic like hey, what's going on and just you know, super conversationalist. But yeah, man, I mean that shit taught me a lot over there. I fuck with it, you know what I'm saying. I appreciate everything that I got from it. You know what I'm saying. I appreciate Adam everything. You know what I'm saying. He gave me. You know what I'm saying, everything he taught me from here on out. But you know, we

got to move on. We had to do what we had to do. I mean, the same four joke shit was just like whatever. It was just like icing on the cake from just built up shit. You know, yes, I would do it, said, which I totally you know, yeah, like that type of ship. And I had we all had to hold Douno down do like Bro wanted to get out. He was like, I'm only here for y'all. Like but it's just I'm like, Duno, don't do it right now. We all got to stick together hold it

down for me, you know what I'm saying. We I really had to hold Dono down. And then this was just like as soon as that shit happened to a d it wasn't It wasn't me. I couldn't tell doing the like hey, like hold it down some more like it's out, Like nigga, this is out. I'm cool on this ship. Like so we just had to make that move and you know, it's all good. Like you know what I'm saying. I don't know, but he a cool nigga,

you know what I'm saying. You know, some of the decisions he make as far as business or whatever the case may be, might not be on point, you feel me, like you know, and it's just you know, it's it's it's a learning curve for every fucking body. Yeah. I think he's a learning curve for him too, because I feel like he's kind of always done ship where it's like just him and recording and editing and like to like bring in all these personalities and like, you know,

he's never really signed people. So I think that like there's that narrative where he was like, well, in hindsight, maybe I should have signed him. And I don't know if y'all saw me on the show. I was watching and I was like, well, if you in, you know, encourage them to go and do their own thing, like, wouldn't that be like with the idea that they might do very well? And that's and that was where I was.

That's another reason why I'm looking at it a little differently too, because it's like, if you're pushing us to do these things and we reaching certain heights, to me, it makes you look good like I'm a boss that put on these other bosses and put them in position, not like oh, we all competition for each other. And I feel that's when the comments and these outside narratives keep coming out instead of really looking at who the people are. You know what I'm saying, because we can

get into it. I can get into him, but I can talk to him. I don't have to be like, hey, bro, nigga, or tell somebody something bad about him and keep doing that. And me and Adam were not bumped hairs a million times, but every time saying hey bro, you're my brother, I'm looking at like a brother. Right, you're my brother. If you're wrong, I'm gonna tell you you're wrong. If I'm wrong, tell me i'm wrong. It's a revolving door. It's not

one sided. And a lot of times, like I know, for me personally, I know, it just felt one sided. It's like you could tell us when we're wrong, but when you're wrong, it's like, oh, I ain't got to say no, it's not I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm like, bro, it don't work like that. I mean, I think you know, communication and common sense it didn't play a big part in this shit, you know what I'm saying. Like communication should have been on an all time high, you know

what I'm saying. And then common sense just get up in there, especially if you're on the business level and you think and put a little sprinkle a little friendship in there. Let me get in there. Man, these dudes are doing their thing. I see him getting high. Let me go off from some before somebody else off from something, and let me see what that looks like. You know what I'm saying. Let me let me go entertain this. Let me see what this looks like and when we'll

be good. We didn't necessarily have to be on your platform. But it's just in the perfect world, if I was to do it and I rewinded, I'll go back. You know what I'm saying, Let me sign these guys for a year whatever, keep doing you. You know what I'm saying, I'll take my percentage whatever you're doing. You know what I'm saying, tours, merchs, whatever the case may be. I

was open to whatever. You know what I'm saying. I was open to whatever anybody, any deal, anybody had, you know what I'm saying, as soon as I began or you know what I'm saying, just leading into it after a couple of months. But it's all good man. You know what I'm saying. It's just business experiences that people probably have never experienced. Yeah, I think that's really what

it is, right, It's like, that's it. It's like the first time you go through something like that, it's like, well, in hindsight, but at the same time, you got to kind of have the business acumen to be like, well, shit, it's pretty obvious this is gonna this is getting huge. My common sense level, it come on like maybe I should call a meeting with the boys. Yeah, but like what he said on Joe shit, and he was like they were enthusiastic, but I didn't know they were that

enthusiastic at that point. It's like that that line hurt me right exactly, Like y'all was like they were gonna do good, but I didn't know they're gonna do that good. Like yeah, but even still, like you could have still came like, Okay, you guys are doing good, my bag, let's try to see. Try to see instead of guys,

I didn't realize it's gonna happen. You know, well, we would have did it instead of you still pushed this to all of this stuff is still new, Like we're looking at this and like, I mean, you just celebrated a year. Yeah, you're not out a year yet, are you? Nah? I'm at barely six months. Crazy, Yeah, it's wild. You guys have been killing so further new channel. Obviously your guys's streams on each other's, on your own respective channels

are really big. It's gonna be is it gonna be streaming ship or is it gonna essentially be just a bunch like you guys are getting the space. We're gonna have streaming stuff over there. We're gonna have original content, any ideas that come to mind. We're gonna be signing talent.

We're gonna be doing everything we're supposed to do. Yeah, but we're also gonna be taking our time, not gonna be sitting out here Russian just throwing niggas on camera, just doing anything, you know what I'm saying, Like, we'll take our time what we got right now. Then we'll just add gradually and then you'll just see the growth and an evolution and everything. And it's no need for

us to go out here and rush. But we're definitely finna come with it, you know what I'm saying, because we you know, we learned from the best and just looking around you feel me and having that free spirit and free mind to go out and try to try new shit and you know, and have it work. Like we're seeing the ins and out of all of that shit, and that's just that was a great experience in itself though. So we got the sauce, you know what I'm saying,

and we just gonna implement it. I definitely think y'all had the sauce in that building, y'all kind of brought the flavor over there. You know what I'm saying, like to show about the substance. I feel like you can correct me if I'm wrong. But it felt like a lot of artists has stopped like wanting to go over there, but it kind of felt like because you were there, they would still go over there. Is that safe to say?

I fought hard, Like I'm telling people like Bro, come fucking me, man, listen, I don't want to come over man. That's for me. It's a good look for me. And then you get certain individuals that's coming through them doors and pun using his resources. He's been trying to get qu over there for two years. He's like, you know what I'm saying. So he ain't doing no interviews right now. No, motherfucker's playing golf. He's rich. Come where nigga. Now, I'm

at the Calabasas Country Club. No. But like you know, I'll go to the club and the artists be like, Bro, they watching it. They just like, Oh, I don't want to be involved with that platform. And then you know certain people like Whiz come through. How I'm gonna do this for you? You You know what I mean and pum hey, Miles, he come on certain individuals like, Okay, we made it to where it was it was cool and I feel like it got this identity back as far as and

then the identity became all the drama. Man. Yeah, how do you guys prevent that same ship from happening with your Well, nigga do a lot of drama. I said, we're not doing a good job because sha But you know, initially, when drama happens, it's not on us. You know what I'm saying, It's not our job post clips and post the videos and go hard with it. Like we're not in control of that. So if drama happens, and if you're putting it out, that has nothing to do with us,

you know what I'm saying. It can stay internally, it can stay in the house, but if you choose to put it out, he has a platform as a company, that's on you. You know what I'm saying. We didn't ask nobody to do that. We don't control the clip channel, the main channel, the Instagram were not for sure any of that shit. So who's really controlling the narrative? You know what I'm saying, Like, who's controlling what's going on in what you guys see as far as the drama,

and that really was like no on camera drama. Like our pod at the end of the day has never beefed or argued, not one fucking time, you know what I'm saying. In the other pod that left, which was disconnected, they've never had any drama at all either. So all that other shit was just shit that didn't have anything to do with us, and we'll just speak on it, you know what I'm saying. So those clips will a ride from that shit, you know what I'm saying, And

videos are a ride from that shit. Still, like we wouldn't in control of putting out, so we y'all written and the people really can't blame us for that shit, so no, know what I'm saying. And two is you can't win for lose because if you don't speak about it, oh you're scared. You ain't speaking about it or your PC. And when you do speak about it, oh you're messy. You shouldn't do that. So it's like people don't know what they want. Listen, do you want to win some money?

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in Vegas, pull up on them man, Hardean Las Vegas. Well, I think like I said that too when I was with Adam, I said, like, wouldn't you rather have your your boys get the the views that come with reacting to some of this shit, because otherwise a bunch of other YouTube channels are going to talk about it, whether it's academics or Milk seven four whoever the fuck, Like, people are gonna make their reactions, and you guys have your own platforms and you guys are kind of the sources.

Like wouldn't I would rather? But what makes it any different? Don't no jump or do it? Yeah? For sure, but within there they do. It's a problem. You know what I'm saying, Like what we're learning, We're literally watching what you guys are doing. You feel me, you're giving us the blueprint. We're designing what we're doing and adding an own spin to it around that. So it's like, look, you can't say, well, you guys are doing this and reacting to this, but y'all doing the same shit too.

It may be a rapper, you feel me, who don't appreciate that, it may be somebody else, but we're literally doing the same exact thing the people. And like I said, all the time, we don't sit there and just wake up in the morning. All were about to just be messy and do this. No, the fans literally will sit there and spam shit in the chat, like talk about this, talk about this, and all right, y'all want to talk

about this. We're here now, and then it's like it just blows over and then you know prime example, you know he said, you know, drama doesn't equal money, and you know sometimes it doesn't. But also in this Kelpie situation, I'm gonna keep bringing it up, like we that was

in house. Nobody didn't have to know about that, Nobody didn't have to know about the fight, nobody have to see that clip, nobody didn't have to do none of that ship, right, you guys chose to put that out and you know why, because that ship equals dollars, you feel me, equals attention equals We're like sitting on that for a while, sitting on that, you know what I'm saying. But you're going on legal reasons too. But but if if there were no legal reasons, that sh would have

been put out immediately, you know what I'm saying. So that again, that's not on us. We didn't do that. We're not in control of that, you know what I'm saying. So it's now it's becoming financial. It doesn't equal dollars and show us. It's kind of like, well, this is the world that you kind of consciously created. Yeah, Like you know what I'm saying. You curated this ship. I didn't. We don't. I didn't come there to do that. I

came here to laugh. Well, but when you put people in certain situations, it's kind of like you know, a love love and hip hop or something like that. If you know people got problems with each other and you're curating to put them in the same room, of course something's gonna blow up. So even when Kelp came over there, Kelpy had his situation with Almighty in Sharp, it didn't leave on a good note. No, it was it was already drama. The first time. Yeah, you get invited back

to sit next to the same guy. What drama don't equal money? What you think gonna happen though, But drama don't equal money? So why are we inviting this young man back? Yeah? Why do he come? Didn't make no sense. That didn't even make a sense, you know, but it does. It did make sense because it make dollars and cents. You know what I'm saying. We come back because hes viral, So let's go viral again, young man. You know what

I mean. Now we're gonna go super viral because we can't even bring out the whole interview, so we just gonna put out the fight. Fuck it what I'm saying. So, I mean, hey, I mean, but shit, you know, it's financial times over there. I mean, we had to get out of there anyway, feel because I don't like I said, I didn't want to be a burden to anybody because we wasn't making money on our show. Our show was

you know, wasn't making money. And that's what people I don't like that narrative too, The show's not making money. We all on YouTube, we all know what's going on. Yeah, per se, Yes, the long form content may not make that much money, but once you chop it down a million times, putting in the clips service, it to Facebook service, it to Instagram real service, it to TikTok, and you do all this stuff like that, Yeah, then it's gonna really be something. But the fact that it's not making

any money. But even if it even if you know it wasn't and you was just breaking even you know what I'm saying, We're still bringing a ton of subscribers. We're bringing Yeah, we're bringing people to the channel. So if you're here, they're living on the channel. So if you watch at the end of the day and you have work and it's only an hour or two, you got six more hours to go, guess what you're gonna do. You're gonna live on the channel and still watch other views.

So it's you can't really determine on how much money that we were making the channel in its entirety. I know people who like, uh, like two or three of my close friends, they're like entertainment source was y'all guys a ship Like they don't watch Netflix, they don't watch Hulu. They'll just be like, fucking oh no, Jumper. You know,

you're very entertaining. No, it's crazy. It's like I mean, I told Adam that, I was like, dude, it feels like how like Howard Stern was back in the day, Because Howards Stern used to have like fucking ten different wild ass characters that were part of his morn. He had things that you couldn't do in twenty twenty three, right, a lot. He had chicks writing. Yeah, but nonetheless it was, uh, it was crazy for sure. So for for you guys like, what's is it? You? Is it? You guys are business partners,

it's Pun? A part of it is he just managing it? Because you look at that that channel's Pun's face right in the middle. Oh yeah, but I changed that ship. Now I'm like, and he holding the money and just ecstatically even even how even a how that happened. So originally we didn't know if Duno was gonna, you know

what I'm saying, stick around. So at the time it was just gonna be like we started pushing Big Munity and when it originally had the pictures it had, I think it was t rail Pun it was smacking me. It was four. So when Duno said, fucking I'm with the guys, we just added him to the side, so just so it makes it. It made it. It made it look like Pun was in the middle of the situation. But the fake community World, you know, just back on fig you know what I'm saying. Community, and then the

World was Duno World. That's why we added the world because you know Ace boys, you know what I'm saying, the boys worldwide. So we added the World because everybody's gonna be on there collectively, you know what I'm saying.

They're gonna have a show on there. But yeah, the main people will be me, A d Smack, Duno, and Pun because we curate a lot of ship as far as you know the content, yo, you guys, I barely like checked out this Reddit thing recently because of since I went on the show the day after you guys, well not the day after you quit, Like was it the day you quit or whatever? No, I'm just saying, like I forget the day. Actually, no, the day after the Lush got fired is when I went on the

No Jumper shafter. I don't think anyone knew you were officially quitting, No except me maybe to Real New because Toy Real danced around a little bit be a dear friends before all this ship. So I was like, hey, he's like, man, we quit, bru. I ain't gonna say that myself. Do you kill me going on Tuesday? I'm like, go do go get your me. I'm like, nah, funk all of that and tell that nigga no fucking go ahead now. But like just the I guess like the the it is a weird fan base that's very dived

into your personal life. It feels like it's just a lot, bro. I just couldn't imagine, like it's a it's a smaller percentage of the fan base. It's like a loud minority. Yes, but they dictate a lot of ship, right they dictate. You got to give them that. They'll put them narratives out there in certain hosts, even myself before you be like damn brain bro, like you're not. You got to understand. We come from where we're not used to ship like this.

The reddits in the four Chands and all these deep diving were like what they they got a four chand for you they got everything. Fortunately, I have no idea there talking about still like I've dibbled and dabbled. You're smart, Gemart smart. I just have too much shit to do to just be sitting there like looking at that ship because you know, but I feel like if you can read the worst ship people say about you, you could take anything even but you subconsciously are affected by that.

Just you may not know it until you real it back. Will you real it back? Yeah? You realize oh ship. I'm not thinking that because I think Joe Rogan alway says that he's like, I never read the comments ever, because I'm doing what I do without like like based on my own thoughts and my own intentions. If I start reading comments, it'll subconsciously kick in to like make me change shit or be you know. And I think

that dog that radit shit is wild. Bro. See I look at it like this, he was going in on me. I don't even know. It's a long time you know shit. I mean you white slash hispanic. I mean, I don't know. I look at it in white slash white when I'm going when I'm going out and I'm seeing people showing love everywhere I go, you feel me, that's what I see. Hey, bro, I love what you're doing. I love what you're doing. I don't go outside and see negative comments bro, and

the people around me. If everybody's affected and they feel like, oh, you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, that's what I ultimately care about. You feel me. If his kids is taking care of and they happy, his wife is happy, Bro, everybody around us is happy. It doesn't matter what nobody else say because regardless if you like it or not, you're still watching it. You know what I'm saying. So it is what it is. So you can read something

and it's like, all right, cool, that's your opinion. But when we come outside in real life, when you touch some grass, we're not seeing that any of these uh, these guys in real life and these ready, So why does it affect you? And a lot of you know, there's a theory out there. People got a lot of burners, and they put their own narratives out there and stuff like that. So yeah, when I learned about the Reddit, the first thing, I'm like, damn, it's a lot of

negativity in there. But then as time went on, I'm like, okay, so you run to Reddit and you run I wasn't and you run to Reddit. Your niggas work here, Like what? Who? I don't believe who runs it. But you know, first when I was you know what I'm saying, Adam was a moderator in there. Josh was a moderator in there. Uh they said year he was a moderator in there. But I talked to him last night. He so I actually wasn't a moderator. I didn't do anything. I had

no control over anything. But hey, I don't know how this ship is ran, but even if you're a moderator, then you're moderating moderate. I mean, hey, I mean, God damn, I mean And it was a lot of crazy shit being sent in this group chat, and I'm like, what

the fuck who's saying that? While they're saying that, like it was crazy, But if you sitting in there and you like a now you gotta now you got a whole nother profile doing this shit and making up these narratives, it's it gets really deep, Like I don't think I have that much time on my hands. And this was actually this was a turning point when it came down

to it. I'm just gonna say. We would started talking about topics that were supposedly coming from the Reddit, and I remember when we was in New York, they lost it at them, everybody lost control of it. And when they lost control of it, oh, it was a whole different reddit. So you know, they started asking questioning us, like, wait a minute, why are our women in these reddits? Why are our kids in these reddits? Why? Why is

everything attacking us? But it's not attacking y'all. And it was like, oh, because you know the rules are, hey, they're not on the table. They're not on the table, but were on the table, like they'd be talking about your families and everything, but it would never and then we're we're bringing that to topics that we're talking about online. So it's like, all right, cool, But once it lost control, then it was like, don't talk about it no more? What do you mean, don't talk about it no more.

We've been talking about our lives for the last couple of weeks, and now since y'all can't control the narrative no more, y'all don't want us to talk about it no more. So that's when you got to, you know, put your thinking cap on and say, what the fuck is really going on? Tral? Obviously you and your girl have a successful vlog. She's got a dope woman's yeah, shout out the Sorella watch dot com. You know what

I mean. I once said Tupac was overrated in an interview and like my wife got like thirty dms from angry uh motherfuckers. Yeah, saying that you white, I'm a piece of shit. And how crazy is like Heather's dms in turn of like just these wild like fans, fringe fans. I mean I think they pretty cool. I mean they haven't like went over pretty respectful. Yeah, they're pretty respectful right now. They love it. Man. That's why you gotta

laugh at everything, you know what I'm saying. We gotta laugh at ourselfie and you gotta put yourself out there because I'm not a nigga that you can really like bother and shit like that. Like I'm a nigga that can joke too, Like like if I wasn't ready like subconsciously, I don't think I probably be bothered anyway. You know what I'm saying, I'm a nigga that probably got over

all of the shit. You know what I'm saying. I have one arm, Like I'm going through life with my arm not working, like and I let niggas crack jokes on me, fuck with me, like all the whole little shit. So none of that shit ever fucking bothers me if they hitting her up and messing with her like, she don't even look at that shit anyway. When she do, she she got other shit. You know what I'm saying

that she's doing too. Man, have you guys tried to think of who would be the quintessential like first guest already got them? Really? I ain't gonna tell you though, I feel I feel like a school boy or a tiger or they in that realm Okay man, he shout out to Tiger man, tell him to come through. That'd be a relationship with him. You do too, Hey, is it rocky you? I mean, I don't have a I don't have a relationship with him. You can text him me? Yeah, I can't text you d m him. I can text like,

can't you you can? D m hm No, we know, we know you can. Damn you, Heather, can, she says, half Tiger, come on over this, nigga, bro the first for the first interview, Bro, we have the first one. Put this out. You're calling you out relationship, Yeah, that'd be amazing, My goodness, Smith, What then are you gonna going there? And talk about you're gonna cry like a little hope, miss too low. We need to get this Last Kicks last Week's back. We can do it. We

gotta put it back in supie now. Oh that'd be great if you guys resurrected Last Kings in twenty twenty three. You're the greatest. You're the greatest businessman of all time. Hell know, why would you need that when you got a running around here with Share? Nigga fucked Last Kings. Yeah, he got Apple Levine. Ain't worry about that ship. This is over that nigga got Share out here. Boy, you're crazy. We on this Swiss clothing and Sosa rather dot com. So are you guys going to Adam's wedding? Why is

this the biggest like question? Everybody said, I'm not going to that ship nigga, I would have been it around it bush, I ain't going. Wouldn't it be awkward? And oh god damn tickets fucking with this nigga? Man, I'm going Look he got me doing all type and ship over here. Brouh, I did a reverse. Nae still go to Italy, have a good time. I love Italy, Italy. Let's I'm spots me to do some shopping. Ain't how hilarious would it be if you guys went to Italy

during the same time. Let this nigga pump you up. Everyone's at the Save Hotel and you're like, hey, we're we could drive past the venue. You think we drive past U everybody get scared. I mean, but if we did go with it be a problem. I feel like y'all should go. I don't. But but like were just joking now, like I don't know, I got my ticket. We adam My mind might change by May nineteen. This is all jokes at the end of the day. But I still look at him like a homeboy, right, you

feel me? Like if he could text me, he just text me the other day. He could text me. I could text him and ship like that, Like it ain't no bad blood like niggas appreciate him, you know, for we wouldn't even be doing what we're doing right now if he didn't put the had him in our back, so we always gonna have a respect for him. Whant to come down to that and thank you go to the wedding. There'd be no reason why you aren't invited.

Heather wants to go if Heather says. If Heather says, we're going and we can still go, who wouldn't want to go? It's an excuse to go to Italy. It'd be really weird if you guys went anyway and everyone was at the same hotel and you're like, oh, yeah, we are to buy our tickets, but you know we're going to We're going to. I doesn't. I just don't want to talk business when we get there. Yeah, no business talk. We just go just have some fun, like

we gotta get the boys back together. I feel like it'd be natural for you guys to also have Adam as one of your first guests. Wow, I didn't think that. Why not, bro, clear up all the fucking you know, because I feel like you guys genuinely probably. I mean you guys, like you just said you have love for Adam,

the feelings mutual. I do think that were given the beef going, Like I do think, like like troll, like you were saying, I think it's like a big learning curve with all this ship because like I feel like no Jumper had like evolved into something it had never been before. So I'm sure, like you know, there's a learning curve on how to deal with all these personalities. I mean, got fired on camera. Bro. You know what

I'm saying, Like, how do you feel like that? You know what I'm saying as a business owner right out here doing content, Like would you would have you know, ever did any of There's so much stuff that has happened over there. Me and Eric, my producer, we talk about it all the time. Ye like it ain't worth it. It's just not it's not would you like, you know, would you ever as a boss go and fire Eric? Like? Look Eric, camera the camera rolling Eric your ass? Well?

I mean I kind of fired him before, but not like that. I was like, hey man, you want to be a famous photographer. I need somebody who wants to be a famous podcast producer. That's not shot you throw about Eric. He's a huge photographer. He did he did the last Fat Joe I'm covered. That's right. That's why, Bro, that's not and him are big photography. This is how we do it. I see what you're doing. You don't be a stirn up ship with our media for you, I'm gonna have I can't live in fucking Burbank. I

won't be able to go anywhere. What are you trying to do to me? Man? Fuck? Oh my uh, I'm honorary Armenian. I don't know if you know too. Yeah, of course I've been a three Armenia weddings and oh my wife's Mexican. Okay, shut no, I'm not. We've already gone through this. You know this. I have two Mexican children. Damn, she be whooping your ass in there. Huh, she be sucking your ass up on the in there. Man know,

definitely don't know. Christian sh oh my god. And it's funny because that ship is real because they came here like two weeks ago and she carved her fucking their initials into the table right there. That's crazy. She's like this, like pissed and like I'm like, what are you fucking? It's property damage. But like an hour prior to them getting here, like well, they were here an hour prior

to the interview starting. They were just yelling at each other while he's getting his haircut in the other building. I'm sorry, that's probably that's probably the best vagina on this planet to continue to deal with that. I don't even I'm gonna be honest, nig people, I'm gonna be I think. I think that. I think being being near them for a couple of hours it made me kind of realize, like, well, now that she's sober, it feels a little like man, I don't know, man, it feels

a little manipulative. On the Blue Flace side, I feel like he's kind of running up the numbers right now because he kind of knows like, let's go viral. No no, no, I said it in the interview. I'm like, yo, she's more popping than you. He's like, yeah, she's signed to me. I want her to be more popular. I just whoa. So he's running it up. I think that's more of what's happening. So it's not real. No, it is real, but I mean she's pregnant. I mean it's a sad situation.

I think that whole thing, Like it's like kind of what is it worth it? The numbers, the money? But yeah, some of them, no jumper shit that happened, Like I definitely would not name something talk about it. I mean the firing thing, you know. I think I just think that, like I was telling that him the same ship sometimes just some of the like I feel like, uh, we would talk about. I'm like, it felt like sometimes he would just be having random gang members on that don't

really ain't doing shit, but are gang members. I don't know. There was like a little like point in time. It was an era. There was like an era like the Kryptmac era where it felt like every other guy on the show and it was like so and so on being something something crip and going to jail and being white. Yeah, like no such just there. I mean, but what the fuck are you supposed to do? And no artists want

to come through there? You know what? It works right like like like to me, like I can't even fall Like to me, the no Jumper thing has worked. It's way bigger than what I'm doing. But you know, for for for me, like just a lot of the like, uh, the ship that happened with house Phone, you know, I think was was terrible. It was mishandled flagrantly, even even

if it wasn't meant to be mishandled flagrantly. Like like I was telling him, I was like, bro, that that wouldn't even have that wouldn't even have sniff of the YouTube, that wouldn't even got you can't even load that up and that's and that's where accountability goes into play, right. And then even hearing the Duno thing, you know, like what he said about like asking for something to get taken down. I've taken stuff down because I'm like cool with an artist and they're like, hey man, I'm getting

some bullshit? Can you take that ship down? And I'm like, yeah, sure, bro, Like if if anything I'm doing is gonna affect your day negatively, and it ain't even going crazy like that on YouTube, I'll like life and death situation, except little pump I kept his shit up. Fuck him anyway. Oh my god, he gave out my fucking phone number on on the internet. What did you do? Bro? I asked him if if he thought j Cole predicted his career correctly, And then it came out, and then him and his

team were blowing me the fuck up. I was trying to stop from coming out. I'm like, bro, well, first of all, the interview you you actually like came off like not like a little dickhead in the interview and like, yeah, no, it's coming out bro, like it is what it is. So then they didn't like the way I titled the interview, so then I changed the title. So I changed the title to like something nicer, right, and it wasn't even titled badly. And then his manager calls me and is like,

he said, I better take it down. I said, I better take it down or what you know where I'm at the fuck I'll be there all day tomorrow. What do you mean? You're fucking square from Miami. Some more white dude calls me, and then I got off the phone with him, And then people told you he posted my phone number. Why all y'all got beef with each other? Like the white got no beef for no white people. A little pump. No Pump's not white, is he He's like a Puerto Rican Columbian? And I actually like a

little pump. You know he's Cuban. I didn't know that. That's about the management pull up white what yeah? But yeah, then my phone was going crazy for like fucking a month straight. I put it on airplane mode then like right when it happened, But do my whats happened? Like people, but I fucking pasty fat white bitch is sending me that nudes and ship thinking it was a little pump. It was. It was wild. It's like, hey, that man, what's up, guys? Hey, shout out to our family at

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get back to the interview. How do you feel about the racist comment that was made on a no jumper I haven't which was there. Yeah, it was something about us being slaves. I didn't see that. Okay, you had to check that one out. It was a Destiny and a few a couple of other guys and this young lady that was on there, and they made some comment that was super crazy, and uh, the guy Djon he kind of posted it too on his Instagram's Yeah the poor card. Yeah. So was it Adam made the joke

or was it the other guy? Or uh, they both made the joke. I mean something about, uh, you didn't you thought I was black and I'm a black so like something along those lines. We'll go look at it. It's kind of rough. He said, Oh, you know, I thought that you was something that you were in hip hop. You were in hip hop and it was like, oh no, I thought you was just a slave owners. That's what Adam said it was okay, you guys think you guys, I mean, I don't think Adam's racist. Do you guys

think he's racist? I think person right, Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he's racist. I think that sometimes, like when I see something to defend him, because I see some of these old tweets going viral. I think white

humor is like super dark at times. And mind you, there's some shit that like was joked about that I wouldn't joke about, but I know people, but then again, you still have a guy come on like Richard Spencer, and then it kind of makes you question yourself like fuck, like, why would you bring that guy on this platform when you you know, you have everybody around Like, I don't see him as a fucking reform? Uh? I think so? I do. So. I mean I think back to like

when they did Nick for and test. You were part of that conversation. I think it would have made sense to have a person of color upon, Yeah, part of that convers but I mean I watched some of it and it seemed like a pretty like good convo because I was like, yeah, why would that because I just think of that dude as a tiki torch guy, you know,

from Charlottesville. So then I started. I watched like maybe like twenty minutes of it when I was cleaning my office, and I was like, Oh, this dude is like, h he like turned in his racist car or some shit. I don't know, but yeah, I don't know, man, I think I think that kind of shit. I think, you know, I think Adam obviously wants to do more provocative content now that is like more like on the political fringes.

Oh he's older, bro, And like, you know, even like a year prior to that, he was like, listen to this podcast and it was literally like three hours about the COVID vaccine. Right, some shit I would never fucking listen to in my life. So I already knew like his mind was pivoting somewhere else. Like his interest is

not hip hop anymore. He says that that's and that's my thing is it's like it's kind of tough probably being hit because I don't I don't necessarily I've never looked at at him as like a quote unquote hip hop head. I think he's a guy who like like is a fan of rap music who kind of like fell into being a part of the culture. You know what I mean. I think he's just a very logical guy.

I mean, yeah, for sure. It's like he can pick up anything and just have a logical answer for And he's a very good conversational list It's a great podcaster. And oh he's a businessman. He'll see something that's working, he'll say, let's amplify this. It's not working no more, We're moving on to this. And he's had some of the best hip hop interviews ever, you know, so kudos to him. But if you're like tired of chasing down like what's hot on SoundCloud or I get it, amazing interviewer,

for sure, he's great. Man an interview right there. I'm coming for coming, I'm coming, Cavy man, Come on, man, I'm white. He ain't gonna be for I'm coming. I'm rooting for y'all. Man, give me some of them damn artists. But they come in here and tell him come over here to me. Let's hear it. When are you guys launching the like the actual like original shows. I know you guys say you're not rushing anything. I mean, we were supposed to launch it tomorrow, but I'm sitting here

with you. You know what I'm saying. I have some technical difficulties hooking up cameras and wires and ship, but I rather I came here for you, Thank you. But I make sure I made sure. If it don't come out today, I mean tomorrow, I mean hopefully this week, if not next Wednesdye was late Black People on Time. Bro. I had a rough morning. Yeah, that's crazy, super rough morning, my dates. Let me see, let me see. I got to get the fuck out of here too. I love

you to do super rough morning the twenty nine. If we don't do it by tomorrow, the twenty second, it'll be, It'll be, it'll be. The twenty nine is coming. Yeah. Yeah, this is coming out tomorrow. Okay, Yeah, this is your Wednesday show for the week. Guy, Yeah, it's our Wednesday show. You know, I'm saying, shout out to everybody. You know what I'm saying, shame on you. You know what I'm saying. I got my boy eighty year. We missing two other motherfuckers.

But yeah, last thing, what happened with Sharp black Man Man, That shit was a he was I can say for me, I was he was being loyal to no jumper because he's still over there and I was just trying to break down, like there's a ceiling for us there. And if you like you two were having a civil yeah, conversation is friends. That was respectful. The people around me now pun tray a whole. There's a lot of other

people that you don't see on camera. They're tired of like having to hold back on account of me, you know what I mean, Because it's a lot of like you know, shady things that have happened in business and stuff like that, where you know, I'll try to look the other way and they're like, now you know it's time, like we can't do this, We can't do that. And if you feel like your boy is being done wrong

and you're explaining to somebody why that is wrong. See one thing that Sharp said in that when we was having that conversation, he said, you had leverage. I'm not looking at something that somebody I consider friend is leverage with our relationship or business. At the end of the day, I'm looking at it like, Nigga, if you my brother, if I feel betrayed, I don't give a fuck how much money I'm losing out on. I don't care about how much the situation may affect my livelihood. I move

off of morals and principles. So if somebody is blankly going on platforms and saying like, hey, you don't like me and t Rail's progress because you think that it now is too uncontrollable and it's too big now to where you can't put us on contract. Why have leverage like that that means that you're always going to keep us a step below non you have the power to

do that, sight that you get that full context. Yeah, talking about it more, But I do think that, like I think Sharp is just kind of presenting an angle of had you guys came in and been like, hey, we're about to fucking leave double our hey, or you know what I'm saying. But again, I just but it's not about the money, bro, No, No, I get that. I get that. So I just I but I think that, like you know, when you're talking to people about shit,

like they're just he's just sharing one perspective. I just think it. I was like, I was like, oh, you guys were getting like it was a civil conversation. But even even then I got punned. Yeah, but even ot like ot ot wasn't feeling the conversation either, because people like like me, I got my grandma's heart. I listen to everybody, I hear everybody out and I try to see the good and everything, and the people around me they watch me get burned six million fucking times and

they're tired of that shit. So that's where that aggression comes from. It's not necessarily oh, sharp, you the bad guy, because a lot of people were like, oh, well, maybe you feel like you made a bad decision. No. I stand on every decision that I do. And the people around me they've been waiting to just be unleashed because they've been seeing behind the scenes stuff that they didn't like. And I still look at it like, you know what, maybe this, maybe this, maybe that, Nah, bro, this is

what it really is is cutting dry. It's in your face. And if you can't process that and see where you're wronged in a situation, then hey, can't expect nobody else if you were If you were us, what would you have done? I would I told you all to do exactly. But I think that my whole thing was is the one thing I saw last night that worried me was it.

It was like I don't want y'all to go down that path of like just shit, like like it felt like, okay, obviously you and and Sharp were having a civil conversation, which is not necessarily the greatest thing for views. But what is the good thing for views is putting the punkstigator on to go crazy on Sharp. And like, my thing is is that Sharp's like your genuine homie, like you guys hit him to talk about what was going on.

You know what I'm saying. He decided to hop on and give you his perspective, whether or not you agree with it's perspective. It was respect. Respect. That was like, that was real. It was wraw, it was it was curing and honestly, like, did you think you putting pun on three way with Sharp was gonna go? Well, I didn't even think about it. You were just like, hey, he's calling, Like I'm like, honestly, that was like we just hit the one hundred k mark. We was having fun.

Everybody's just having a good time. I thought I thought me personally, it was gonna go a different type of way. See, I think Sharp took it personally when he said, well, I'm still at no jumper as it fucked me when it was like, nah that if we got a problem with anybody, we're gonna say fuck you. You don't own no jumper. You feel me. If my homies is on a ad got domb wrong, were not fucking with them? That don't mean as fuck al Mighty, that don't mean

as fuck sharp, That don't mean as fuck Flockoh. We still talk to everybody that's on there. Flocko was just you know what I'm saying, us still have a conversation with people that are no jumper. Did you call him after the I talked to him after that stream, and I told him I was just like, listen, bro, like the way that the people feel about certain situations, Like we're not dumb, we know what time it is. Like, if it's a great business decision for you, I don't

expect you to leave that. Get your money. If you're getting paid what you getting paid over there, get that bread. You know what I'm saying, og suicide, that's my uncle, you feel me. I told him stay over there. If they're taking care of you and they doing that's something in your best interest, go ahead and do that. I'm not gonna get in between you and money. And I don't expect everybody to make a decision that I made. Trail moved off of just pure loyalty. He said he

didn't want to do it without me. I said the same thing. If Trail was out, we wasn't gonna do it. When Duno was talking about leaving. If Duno would have left before then we had a chance to leave, we would have left a long time ago. Because we like Nigga, the camaraderie and what we have. We can't do this with other people, bro, And we could do something, but it's still not going to be the same and that magic, and we got to stick together. Well. I think the

timing worked out, man. So next Wednesday will be the first Yes new show, new food show coming. The whole universe is coming prior to y'all, man, shame on you can't wait to see what y'all got coming. Bro, Yeah, shame on you, Shame on you. Next Wednesday, the twenty ninth, twenty ninth, Man, there it is. Appreciate you all, fellas, appreciate it. Associate it Boo