#277 - Rich The Kid

was it Republic Republic. Then there was the rostrum thing, there was a little empire stoping there and now where you're at RCA. Okay, yeah, it's not you know, I can get the bag. It's not really much about the bag for me anymore. You know what I'm saying. It's like the support system and good team. I was gonna say, because like that's all happened in a very small amount of time, so in four years, right, So what is

it about the fit for you that? Because most artists one, they get stuck in a situation right where they sign and they owe a certain amount, You've been able to kind of get in and out of situations pretty easily. Since leaving Interscope? What what give me the I guess the business behind that and the thought process, you know, just having the best support system, you know, just having the team that's ready to shoot for you. Right? Do

you feel like that like once? Because you know, obviously being an Interscope you had a lot of success in Interscope, New Freezer, Plug Tall, I mean plug Walk. We could go on and on and on going from that and going through all these different situations. Was it a support system thing? When I was signing the Interscope, the person that signed me the Interscope they ended up leaving after a while, right, So it was like, you know, I don't even know this guy. That happens a lot, right.

You'll get signed at a place and then the person who believe than you leaves, and then there's new people who come in and they're like, well we didn't we didn't sign you. Yeah, So basically it was like, you know, just the best support. I just want whatever the biggest artist in your label gets. I want that same exact treatment. Of course. So it's crazy because I think back to the Interscope days and you had I remember when New Freezer first came out, there was not a lot of

people are getting Kendrick mar features in the world. Not a lot of people still not a lot of people. Not a lot of people then, not a lot of people. Now very rare to get a Kate Out feature especially. I feel like he really gave you one of them ones. That's an iconic record. Talk me through that whole era getting the Kendrick verse, And was there ever a point in time where you almost were on TD because there

were some rumblings of that. I feel like I did sign Scope through T so when you initially went to Interscope, it was through Top Dog. Yeah, So I don't think a lot of people know that. Yeah. So when I when I met Kendricks, like I was recording my album One Room, Kendrick recording his album One Room in sists the recording the album in the room, so it was like a record. Everybody was in the same building, so it was easy to just have him kind of walk over and hear some shit. No, at the time, I

didn't even know he was recording there. I just came and did my ship, closed the door, and then one day they came in there, like, yo, Kendrick wants to hear like some of New Records, and then I played him in New Freezer. He's like, yeah, I need that, yeah, this one. But then I was I was waiting for the Verse for like a month because he was on the road and doing shows and shit. So I was like, damn, I just need I need to Kinjuck was how'd you

feel when you got it? When you heard it for the first time, you know, like a big accomplishment, you know, for real, because before that, I never had like a hit song, right, that was your first like big single. Yeah, So I got signed pretty much off of So when I got sign I was signed to three hundred DNT and I was signed to QC Records, and then like so I had to like buy my way out. So I ain't never had no hits, so it's hard to get a lot of money from my label when you

had no streams. So I had to I had to pay QC five hundred thousand, and I had to give three hundred three hundred thousand, plus I had to get paid myself. So you can imagine I had a big deal signing my first deal. So you get to deal for minuscope and out of that money you had to pay off QC and three D three hundred and I had to get paid and you had to still take

some money home for yourself. Yeah, because at the time I was signing with QC and I asked p to like, you know what I'm saying, do my thing, and he's like, I need five hundred thousand, And at the time, I didn't have five thousand dollars, you know, let alone five hundred. So I went to my phone and I called everybody from every label, every level that I had on my phone, right, you know, and thank god, I found one person, Mannie Smith, and shot the many. He's like, yo, come to the office,

you know, and then it's history. God God did the rest shout out to they'll let you buy yourself out at least, and they, you know, they believed it in me when I first jumped up the gate. You know what I'm saying. For sure, I mean a lot of people kind of would equit you to be like the fourth unofficial Media early on in your career, because you were on so many of those early records, you know, like me and Amigo were dropping a lot of tapes

and ship before they signed to QC too. So it's just like we just hustling and working, trying to get our music herd you feeling how close were you from like actually joining the group though never never happened. Talk about losing someone like Takeoff Man. Takeoff was obviously a great guy. He was one of the nicest dudes you ever meet in the music game. I mean you've known him for a long time. That had to be a

big loss for you. Yeah, you know, it's my brother, like my best friend, like my twin, you know, everything. So it really fucked me. I really never lost nobody like that close. So it's just like it fuck me. It's just like you know, you might just wake up and stuff crying and see a picture stuck around here saw and especially him like he was such a just it felt like a very peaceful, genuine person. Yeah, super

nice guy. Every time I met him he seemed like you know he was and also like really one of

the most iconic bit influential rappers ever. If we think about his flow, and just like when I think of the Migos flow, I think I think a takeofre Yeah, it's crazy man, like for you, like, was was that like a wake up call to kind of like you know, because you never know when you're gonna lose somebody these days, especially in the music game, you know what I mean, Like I don't know if it's a wake up call, but it's like, you know, it's just crazy, bro, Like

it's just fucking me up, you know, like you don't know how to respond to something you don't like, you don't know, I don't know. Does it make you move a little bit differently in terms of how you're moving around? And you've had situations where you've had some serious ship that could have went left, we could have lost you, you know what I mean that we all know about, you know, but it's when something like that happens, do you kind of like reassess how you're moving, who's around,

what you're into. Me, Like, I don't be with people, just be by myself, my mother, I won't even know where I'm at. I'm not with nobody, right, you know. It's like it's always it's always dangerous doing anything in the rapper, being a rapper for sure, whatever, especially you moving around all that jewelry. Can you take me back? Do you remember when you first met take Off and Amigos, Because you guys literally came into the game together, you

will forever be synonymous with each other's careers. Yeah. I think it was amount of time I had. I did a song with cash Out from Atlanta, and then I was on the way to a show, not from I ain't really had no shows, but I was on the way to somebody else's show to go watch a performance, and they were like the whole club ride, I mean the whole car ride one of my homies pee Wee. He was playing nothing but the Migos tape and I was like, Yo, the fuck cool? Who is like the

niggas is walking, it's going crazy. He like the Migos there from the North Side or whatever, like I'll get you up with them whatever. I was like cool, whatever. So the next day I had I had took the CD from him. So the next day there's like a the phone number on the end of the CD. It's like DJ ray G. Who was there? DJ time? I called him like, yo, rage, I knew a G. I'm like, yo, you fuck with the Migos. I'm trying to get up with them niggas. The Niggas is hard. He's like, hell yeah,

we're gonna get in the studio whatever. I was like back so that same night it was like a it's like a club in Atlanta that was popping. It's called Mansion. Of course I went to that club. And then randomly I've seen ray Gi outside the front of club with the migos and he's like, Yo, this is the mego I'm telling you about. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna link up. And then we connected that night, and then like two days later I went over to Akuaos

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for a long time for sure. Yeah, we've been working on a ridge trave of five. Well, it's like pretty much done now, you know, and j Cris just put on his JO season projects. So it's just like we've

been to it, you know what I'm saying. For you, like being a CEO, being kind of the leader of the crew, what what were some of the things that you kind of had to you know, because I feel like we saw Decks kind of struggle with his sobriety, you know, staying in the right right state of mind, and it seems like he's doing really well now for you, was that something that was like hard to deal with, like because you know sometimes when I've had a lot

of people in my life that have dealt with addiction, you know what I mean, I know that that it's it's it's a heartbreaking day to go through. Sure, yeah, it's definitely frustrating, you know, like watching somebody like go through rehab and then go back to it and then like, you know, it's just frustrating. But you it's like my brother, you know what I'm saying. It's like I understand it's my artist, but just like my real family, and I'll be fucked up if anything happened to him. So it's

like I gotta put that first. That friendship you get to put the human part first before the artist ship for bro, like that was the most important part to me. Yeah. How far along is Rich Forever five? Is it done? Or is it it's pretty much done? Yeah? We had like like two weeks in the studio just locked in. Is it just you three? Because I know you have three? Okay, you know the fans been just one in the project for us three. So I'm about to see what label

I'm gonna put it out through. Do you feel like you get enough credit for being the CEO that you are, man? Because I do feel like if we kind of rewind time in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, like one of the first Yeah. Well, I just mean in terms of, like you know, I do feel like Rich Forever is a movement. I feel like you guys got fucking plaques. You guys got numbers on the board, you know what I mean? And I feel like sometimes maybe people don't necessarily give

you that credit. M Yeah, man, you know that's how it be. A lot of motherfuckers don't get credit for a lot of shit. True, you know, so I'd be like, work harder, Nobody cares work harder, you know what I'm saying? That's why I'm signing more artists. I'm dropping most ship. We got five Deck Guy his project coming out. I got my album coming out. You know what I'm saying, So gotta go harder. Man. Do you feel like you've also grown a lot in the last few years, because

I feel like he was matured a lot. I feel like I see you moving a little differently, you know what I mean. I feel like it kind of in terms of just everybody kind of grows. If you stand the same, you're fucking up, you know what I mean. Learn a lot, You learn a lot. You know, you hit with life for sure, because I see like obviously you and you and Young Boy had a great project together,

did you. I'm sure you saw the interview he just did where he kind of showed a lot of remorse for some of the energy he put out into the world. Great interview. Great interview. I was gonna say, like, do you see that side of him being someone who's like, you know, that close with him, because we don't know Young Boy like he's kind of a recluse, you know, even before he got locked up. I feel like, like, you know, I feel like I feel like, yeah, people

don't people don't see a lot of size him. But you know that now he's done to open up more for people. So so that's dope, you know. And he's Mormon now he joined the church. I think he's joining the Latter day Saints Church. Yes, he lives in Utah. Look, you can't live in Utah too long and I end up being a Mormon, respectfully. That gets you out there. I don't know much about. It's a solid religion. It's yeah, it is what it is. So what about your solo album?

Obviously got a single out, but what is the album that's coming up? You have been working on it for like two years, so I ain't put out her sold album. My last album was me and Little Wayne Projects, so Jesus I forgot about that. Yeah, so I ain't put out no album since then. So damn I'm loaded. I'm pretty much loaded right now. Explain to me the Little

Wayne project because that is not uh. I mean, you obviously got your group ship with with with the guys, but then you got a Young Boy album and then a Little Wayne album. Like how does the Wayne thing happen? Like? Is it just you guys get in and you guys just are like Yo, this is crazy. Our chemistry is so good. We should do something full or how does it work? I think I just you know, build a relationship with Tunes a little while and saying we're good friends.

We chop it. I talked to him like every week. Damn there you feel me. So it's like, you know, we just that's just like big bro to me, you know what I'm saying. So one day he just hit me like, let's put the project together there, right? I was like, fuck you, Well, yeah, I can't wait. Yeah, of course, whatever you want to do, let's do it. So you know, I might send him a record, he send it back in like thirty minutes. So it's pretty

much like when we were recording to the project. I might do a song and be like, oh yeah, Wayne, be hard on this, send it over. He'll send it back to me, and then he'll send me one and then like back and forth type shit. I was gonna say, like, what's the difference between doing an album with him and doing an album with Young Boy? Is there a difference

their creative processes or shit? Like doing the album with Young Boy, I'd be over at his house for like two weeks, would just be chilling, you know what I'm saying, So you guys would be actually like fully locked in, locked in and not leave right saying so to an album, Wayne, I might come to the studio a couple of days or you know what I'm saying, shoot him some stuff to the email, get it back, especially doing doing an

album with Young Boy. He was on house arrest. He had just got out of jail, and I went to his crib when we just not at the album. Was this when he was in Was this one in Utah? No? No, he was in bars. Okay, Okay, Yeah, Yeah, that's crazy that I didn't even I forgot all about the Wayne album. It's a big deal, man. Not a lot of people have little Wayne albums. I don't know besides Birdman father like Son, what is another little Wayne to collab album.

I don't think there is one, Like there's the Young Money album. I think it's like just you and Birdman have one of those. No, I think I think it's only Joel Sintenna. But that wasn't that never came out officially, that leaked. I can't feel my face. Great fucking great ship. Yeah, shout out to dipset, Who's Who's on this album for you working on it for two years, I'm sure you got some hitters in. Yeah. I got a lot of a lot of people on the album. Little t J

Album TJ. I got a song on him coming out Friday Rema a rambles amazing ramble Gramma. Oh, I don't know remember I think you said ramble from here in l a Rema. Okay, I'm not hip, Ario Star, not hip. What you want, man? I feel like you are very ahead of the curve always for sure? Who else looking? I really got a look at my list. That's a really be recorded only. So when's the album come out? U? This summer? So soon? Little TJ? Summertime? What's the name

of the album? Travis Barker on the album, playing drums, I'm assuming five yoh, J Crich, Jesus, Meek, Miles, J Balvin, Pop Smoke, Polo g the Pop Smoke Verse, Friday, g Herro Friday Jesus sounds like a DJ Khaled album. Jesus. That's and I got a couple of girls on the album too, But you know I can't give up everything. Gee Herbal Meek Pop Smoke. How old is the Pop Smoke record? Was it when he was a library. So you guys did linked up and me pop smoking Polo

G was in the studio all theorist. What was that on? He was a light man, he was a man. Is it harder to get something like that cleared when like, obviously you got to clear it through the estate or through his label because obviously he's not here anymore, you know, And I'm sure you're not the only one who's got old pop smoke songs before he passed. You know, it was a process probably, Yeah. Yeah, how's the record though? Is it crazy? You you pop smoke Polo G? Oh shit?

Oh yeah, this song is gonna be craaz. Is it just you and Meek Mill on the Meek record? Is it? You know that dude Friday's voice is insane? Friday with him to his voice. I saw him record that God did Ship on his computer. Did you see that video? That ship was crazy? His voice is like that ship is wild? Damn. So you got he did a record with us on the Rich Forever product too. She had a couple of Friday joining something to Damn. You got some features. Shout out to g Herbo too. I can't

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sitting with it right now. I mean, Jach, is that Empire? Yeah? Maybe do the Empire thing? Yeah yeah, funck with Empire heavy Yeah. I gotta let me ask you this, Rich, because, as somebody who has seen every kind of side of the music industry, there's just like a conversation out there nowadays that being independent is better than being on a major. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say I say you've

seen it all, it's being better. I would say independent, It depends on what you care about, really, you feel I'm saying like, if you care about just getting the money, or you care about just having the dreams, because you know, you got to think about it. You gotta have a machine to run this shit, right, and being independent in school, it just takes a lot of work, a lot more work, right, a lot more of your own money. Yeah. So if maybe not in a position financially to do certain things,

you could use the label's money. Yeah. But it's not only money, it's relationships too, you know what I'm saying. These LA labels have been building relationships for twenty thirty years. It's not like anybody can just get a wrap caviar for sure, dead ass, dead ass for real. Yeah, And if you're independent, it's probably gonna be a lot harder to get a carrier. Then it's a bigger uphill battle

to do everything for sure. Yeah, for sure. And then I saw like there's like, because Okay, I'm assuming every one of these deals you've had since you left the innerscope you get an advance, right. I think that there is a narrative out there that isn't all the way accurate that if you get an advance, it has to be recouped before you could leave. That's not the case, right, everybody's deal is different. Okay, now my deal is not structured the same as these artists these days. You feel

because a lot of times I think you can. I mean, I like you said, if you have the right structuring, you should be able to get the label giving you that advance is a gamble on their side. It's not like you have this like shit hanging over your personal credit. I've been seeing all these like misleading videos about people saying like an advance is the worst loan you can ever take out. Well, it's not really alone because it's

not on your personal credit. Like if you pay it back cool, if your music recoups, cool, But it's also rit I've never been like this type of artist. There wasn't able to recoop, you feel what I'm saying. So I never really had You're recouped everywhere. I never really had the tough problem where if you're making hits, then

you publish it. You really well, I was gonna say, when you see someone like QC and UH and those guys sell for three hundred million dollars, that was fire huge considering you were there when it first was started up, Like, uh, that's amazing, bro. What do you think is going on where everyone seems to be selling right now? QC sold, everyone's selling their publishing. Well so I seeing everyone in there, I mean sold. Oh yeah, selling and publishing. That's like

a common thing. Like niggas do this all the time when they first get their first hit and they might sign the publishing. But it just like people are selling their satellg catalog. Yeah, they selling their catalog. Justice Pe sold. I think I think he had a million. You know that's smart for some people, Like after you've been in the game for a long time, like you've ate off of it for all these years already, You've been in the game for a long enough time. It's it might

be smart to sell a catalog. But you just coming in and you thank you for the damn tell the catalog. Some folks ain't gonna give you nothing. Would you sell your catalog? I'm chilling right now, you're chilling. I'm chilling right now. I got a whole of my mother drop. Yeah, I'm saying my structure with my label and stuff like that. I'm just good. You know what, I'm saying, it's like I'm not in the bullshit. So that's what's up man.

A new album hopefully soon, Rich forever five much sooner. Yeah, shout out to Jake crich Any any what's going on with the with the Deck's House House. He's doing good man, He's on tour right now and he got a new single coming out too. So yeah, we're fucking with three hundred of course. Shout out to three hundred man, Shout out to my guy, Happy birthday. And I got Shadow over there. Just shut the shadow, Shadow of the legend man. Well Rich the kid. I appreciate you pulling up. Brother,

you already know a new album on the way. Smokes some of this ship, yes, sir,