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In Episode 27, I sit down with the Goodie Mob to talk about their legacy, linking back up with Organized Noize to create their new album "Survival Kit", starting fashion trends in Hip Hop, how they got Andre 3000 back in the studio on the new album, career regrets, Cee-Lo's solo success and how it affected the group, getting back to their roots, and much more!

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All right man, Bootleg cav podcast in full effects. Welcome new episode. Legendary Goodie Mob will be on the show today. I mean, I'm a huge Dungeon Family fan, huge Outcast fan. It's my favorite group, Beer's Outcast, Go Goody Mob obviously legendary, so I was super excited to have the opportunity to speak with them. What else is going on? So, look, appreciate everybody who checks into the podcast every single week. Means a lot. If you're listening to this, do me

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get into this man. Listen, Goodie Mob legendary hip hop group. They haven't put an album out all together since twenty thirteen, and that album in twenty thirteen was not a good one. So they're back with organized noise behind the production, which is the most exciting part of this for me. And be able to talk to all four members at the same time was dope. So let's get into this Goodie Mob interview. It was recorded before the album came out.

The album's actually out right now, so go support that and let's go man, brand new interview Boutleg Cab Podcast, Episode number twenty seven. I think it's up with Goodie Mob right here? Turn this up? All right? Well, look man, Blueleg Cab Podcast Real ninety two to three. Honored to have all of the members of Goodie Mob on the podcast. Now, I gotta give y'all some context on what first you know.

I'm thirty three, So the first record I ever heard of y'all's that made me just dive in was obviously still standing. What was that night? Was that ninety eight ninety seven You're right about my best friend Rams has played me they don't dance, No Mo and ce Lo your last verse on that record, my name is Look listen, man, I heard your voice and your flow is so it blew my whole fucking head off as a kid. Bro. And and you know, from there, I had to go

back and tap in with the first album. But that was my first taste of getting introduced to you guys. So ninety eight ninety seven, I was like ten or eleven years old. So, man, I've been a fan for a very long time. And that's dope, man, Yeah, it's dope to see all y'all back together, man, you know, and especially with the right production with Organized Noise, right, you know what I'm saying, like, this is what I know.

You guys have been hearing all the fans harping at you for so long to do this specific project, gounting man back together with Organized Noise. Why was the timing right in twenty twenty because of that fact right there? It was it was resounding overwhelming, you know, insistent, consistent. People always say they want the old thing back. Man, we've man, take us back to the beginning, you know what I mean, take us back to where it all started.

And then something you know, you know, in your travels, you know, you get so far away from home, man like, you know, you know, you you forget to look back. You know what I'm saying, you feel me love, and sometimes people people forget how to go back. I mean, like other times people ain't even welcome to come back, you know what I'm saying. But you know that was that wasn't the case with what none of us, you

know what I mean? Like you know, fortunately, man like, you know, home is always what heart is, man like, you know, and you know, to come back to organize, know as to have the original you know, first generation that your family may the ones who you know who who who built the pillars, better built and built the foundation, man like, it's uh, it's incomfortable, you know what I'm saying.

Like and then also to have being and dre man like, that's the original, well it fool and that's the original nine, the magnificent nine. Man, you know right there, you know what I mean. So it's crazy Man, what can I say? Man, We're proud and exciting for people to get what we've got. How long was the clue? How long? Like I guess, when did the conception of this album start? How long

have you guys been working on this project? And I know all of you guys are aware of how important this is to Dungeon family fans, outcast fans, Goodie mob fans, fans are real hip hop. So I'm sure you guys took the time. When did y'all start first working on this project? To be freal with you, we did this project in the last five months. Okay, so this was under quarantine. Yeah, this was under quarantine. Oh shit, Okay, everything on this album is brand new. I mean, I

guess that makes sense. You know a lot of the content that I heard, and then obviously the name of the album, that would that makes sense? Yeah, so that that does. Just lets you know, we once this quarantine hit, we made a decision that we was gonna come together. We got we got in a secret location on the south side of Atlanta and once the Beat Star flowing, the first record we recorded it was Survival Kit, the

one survival kit to the Avalanche. The Avalanche Ca. It was just like we just kept going, We kept going. So it is again November. There's a long time coming. It's a it's a long time coming. Like you said, uh ce Lo the original nine on the project. You know, we've we've we've noticed how hard it is to get an Andre versus fans over over x amount of years. You know. We sometimes will get one a year and just be super excited. It might pop up on a Jeez album or a remix or something. It's only right

that he's on the new Goodie Mob album. But how how, how how the Andre verse come to be? And like was it was it difficult? I know it's not difficult because you'll have a family, but like you know, that's an important verse to have on a Goodie Mob album with organized noise behind the production. Man, we won't even speak about the difficulties or whatnot. I mean, like you know,

we were just only speak about the end result. I mean, like you know, and the end result is the camaraderie, the connection, you know, the respect, the dignity, the love, you know what I mean, like you know, the blood. I mean, like you know that we it's a it's a family thing. You know what I mean, like, and you know, we we embrace each other's in differences. Man,

That's that's part of what made us very special. Man, Like you know, everybody's unique in their own right and reserves the right you mean, like to be that you mean like and voice that you mean like and so like dreams one of those highly interitable people. Mean it's an artist artist, you know what I mean. And I

also like to consider myself as such. But like since you know, since we speaking of him, you know what I mean, Like, you know, we've grown to grown to just embrace the fact that man like something that he's truly not into, you know what I mean, Like you know he into it, and I've seen dog like just just like you know, just for fun, I just tell you, man, we see more turned down multi millions of dollars. Everybody

know that, you know what I'm saying. Like, we get also abody to laugh at that because it's like yo, like you know, and that way the ball was set. So anything that he decaid that he don't listen to want to do, who got no passion for it, you know what I mean? Like, nobody couldn't really argue with that because we don't see him turned out no. I was so excited. You know, it's crazy because as a fan, I was afraid that I was going to die without

ever seeing Outcasts perform in my life. And then a few years ago they did that festival run and I got to see them in Tampa and I was like, all right, that's off the bucket list, you know, But I feel like there's been so much energy that's led up to your guys' moment here. I want to also shut out. I feel like casts coming together for that festival run, and then the importance of the documentary that

came out about Organized Noise. I think that also brought a lot of awareness to just that whole wave of of what you guys brought to the game. And then now we're here and we have a new album, Survival Kit. I want to go back to the early Dungeon Family days.

There's a couple of people who a lot of people don't know or associate with Dungeon Family, and I want to kind of get your guys with some contexts and some takes on being around because I heard Usher was a part of the Dungeon Family at least around y'all super early, and the same thing with Future. Obviously Future just got a tattooed on his arm. But but can you guys kind of talk about like like being around them, like Usher obviously was a kid from what I I

think I talked the big boy about it. But you know, just the important historical context of what's come from your guys's tree. We could throw Usher in that, we could throw Future in that. What was it like being around those guys before we all obviously you know, knew who they were. Who got it was family, man, You know what I'm saying. It wasn't really nothing exciting about being abound none of who was excited because we loved each other,

you know what I'm saying. Nobody had really accomplished nothing great in that particular time, So you know what I'm saying, The magic was just just being around people that you love, people that support you, and people that support you know what I'm saying. And they were younger than us, little brothers. They used to watch us, you know what I'm saying. They used to come to the studio. I can remember seeing you know, we used to call Future meet here back in the day. I can remember the first time

he came to the studio. You know, Rico was like, yeah, this is my little cousin. You know what I'm saying. I met he was real cool, real real quiet guy, you know, soft spoken, one with a loud He liked to learn, He liked to sit around and really peep out of everything, and everything was working. And I can remember popping in back in the day, like the Dungeon was was always just an open door policy for all of us. So I mean, you can go to the Dungeon.

Man at three in the morning, you know what I'm saying. Oh, third in the morning. You know what I'm saying, somebody gonna be up. You know what I'm saying. And it's gonna be somebody kicking with talking to kicking for a few minutes. And if you want to go home, you can do that. You want to stay, you can stay, you know what I'm saying. I can remember coming in and seeing Future just working in the studio. Just I'm like, who is that? So like, man, that's me. Damn. You know,

he well working, you know, he putting it in. You know. I could really just see his energy and his passion. Yeah, and it showed and it's still showing you know what I'm saying, he wonder he wanted the best in the game right now. You know what I'm saying, period, hands down. Can't nobody argue with that, you know what I mean.

And it's lovely to know, you know, we saw him grow, and the good thing about it when we team this day is still the love and respect there, you know what I'm saying, because you know, he a real gentleman, a real guy, you know, real Dunblon family member. And then you know what I'm saying, that's how we rolled. But yeah, man, Usher, I don't remember seeing him around there, but I do remember seeing he wrote something on that hot water hitter. He wrote Usher was trying to figure

out who was Usher? What was that? You know? I never knew what that meant that I remember meeting him. He was a little kid. Yeah, yeah, he was a little He was a child, just like oh yeah, who else came out from the under that you didn't know about it? You ain't say nothing about that's mister Barbara Valentino. Okay. They used to come over there all the time. Remember they were little kids, you know what I mean, coming

over there. You know what I'm saying, sucking up game, you know what I'm saying, getting tracks, you know what I'm saying, learning, learning the ropes, learning how to move, you know what I mean. And Bobbit held on to it. You know, I was closer to him because I knew me and Koujoe and Gilt graduated from high school with his older sister. So that's family. That's little Marcella to the end, you know what I mean. So you know, we all family, we all brothers, we all love each other,

we all support each other. Man. That's just how it is right here around the Dungeon family. Man, I did. Wow, it's a beautiful thing to see it. Man, it's a beautiful thing. What was for you guys, Like when obviously you say you got any of this ad? All right, we got to make an album having organized noise handle the production? Was that, like I'm assuming there was just a mutual understanding that like, if we're gonna do this, there's only one way we'll do it, and that's the

of them be behind the boards. Is that is? That was? It was that that would have to be the easiest decision I'm assuming with this project. Yeah at the time, Yeah, go ahead, Joe. I mean, you can say something to it just felt good. Not they had the big motherfuckers for beats or big motherfuckers for tracks. You know what I'm saying. I have to worry about, man, how much I charge for a track? Sit just one hundred thousand,

Oh damn for real. So they felt good, Man, to just go back in the ring, man with somebody we were familiar with, Man, go ahead, yep, familiar with is all the way. I think that that that brought the comfort down for everybody. It really gave everybody in this group a real chance to sit back and say, Okay, what am I gonna do? What am I gonna bring to this project. At the same time, you and they were doing the same thing amongst them, you know, sleepy and rat you know what I mean, like and like

even doing the app like on some song. Bro, we got up to nine weeks on just one record, you know what I mean. So that's how that's how diligent they was going. That's how they was working on a night and day, you know what I mean. So we get this beautiful project. At the end, it's like, man, I can't we can't wait till Friday. The thirteenth, so people get hit the survival kick because we know it's gonna be just like the rest of them. It's gonna

be a classic twenty five years from now. Yeah, you guys have have classic in your I mean listen, man, I listened to Soul Food still like it just came out often. You know, you know it's it's it's a timeless body of work, still standing, timeless body work. I'm curious, Celo, I know that your solo success has been and shout out to Get too. By the way, get the ship. You drop a due for Gluta texts. Was my ship

Ali right? And get Yeah, yep, yep. But sel I want to touch I know your solo success or ship would obviously your solo your first solo project was crazy, then n Als Barkley came out, was crazy, and you were a superstar in your own right. How how like is it dope to be able to introduce fans of yours that might not be Goodie Mob fans to Goodie Mob twenty five years later, Because there are fans of yours that might not They might be just surface level Selo fans, Then I might not like dig into the

fact that you came from Goodie Mob. How dope is that to bring a bunch of new fans to the party. Because my mom is a is a se Loo fan. She don't know what the fuck Goodie Mob is, but she knows who you are. You know what I'm saying, right right? You know, I don't mind surface level Selo Green fans, but I do mind superficial Selo Green fans. You know what I mean. And that's a difference, you

know what I mean. Like the ones that are truly aware of me, they are aware the root of you know what I mean, like in the forge, the way it comes from. You know what I mean, Like you know why you know, why not why not followed me back? Why why not trace me back to the beginning what I'm saying, Like you feel me? So you know it's not it's not a conflict of interest, not not not to me, you know what I'm saying, like or anyone

for that matter. You know what I'm saying, like you know, like it's only weight to leverage with you know what I'm saying, like you know, and weight weight distribution. You know what I'm saying. So you know I believe that personally, I believe that you know, any any win you know on this side of it, I mean, like it's a win for everyone. So you know, I believe that Nol's Barcoley see little Green, you know what I mean, Like, and any success associated with it, you know, extends itself

from Dungeon family. So it's essentially and ultimately a Dungeon family win. No different than when outcas it, like when speak about flood be logo to to it's rather amal year. How we got album of the Year. You know what I'm saying. That's that's how I look at it, you know what I'm saying, And and that that that's it. That's me trying to really keep that simple, you know what I mean. But like, but no, man, it's it's it's all relative and it's derivative of where something started

from a starting point, you know what I'm saying. So you know, having the support system, having the success ratio I mean, like, and the strength of the mob and of the Dungeon family you know behind me. You know, I'm saying, like is what propelled me to those heights.

You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, even if it was used as a barama of something I wanted to do better or do more of, you know what I'm saying, but all in an effort to represent you know, not only my family saying like you know, but our city. You know. I mean, like to the best of my natural ability. You know what I mean, And so what you hear is just the humility that that come along with that. I mean, like, so like I wasn't I ain't never really tripping and say you feel me, like

because my feet my feet in the dirt. Man, I could the dirt. I'm just a I ain't an trip off starter man. Like you know, I'm a tall tree, you know what I'm saying, like or a tall and even taller antilla. So I'm up there. Why pick up? I pick up a signal, you know what I'm saying, like, and I get the message and I transmit and transcend and that's it. Hey, When I was coming up, man, I remember as because I'm a I'm a diehard Outcast fan,

diehard Dungeon family fan. When when you guys all came together for even in darkness, right, I thought that was I mean, I'm even like I remember cool or Cool Breeze is East boys finest album that watched for the hook was my ship. I'm a huge Dungeon Family fan, so when everybody got together and made even in Darkness,

it was crazy. Can you guys give me some like a story or two about the making of the actual Dungeon Family album, because I think that that album is very slept on and doesn't get enough I don't hear enough conversation of praise about how dope that project was.

That's a good example. And using Cool Breeze Eastports Gradies hit, I mean, that's song watched with a hook man like you know, that's when you know his project was launched off the back of Organized Noise, you know, you know, uh opening up the doors, you know, cutting the ribbon on their new label, Organized Lowse Records. You know what I mean, Like you know, uh Organized Noise, uh via Interscope, you know what I'm saying. So that was that was

a big look, you know what I mean. And so we all came together, you know, like with the camaraderie, with the teamwork to make that dream work. You mean,

like for the homie, you know what I mean. No difference than he showed up for us when he coined the phrase dirty South what I mean like and linded that them saying you feel me to uh to to Goodie Mob's debut album, So like you, I mean, like you know the love is reciprocated, you know what I mean, Like you feel me always acknowledge it where it's due, you know what I'm saying. So you know, like you want no egos and that and none of that kind

of shit. I mean, like the it was a homie turn we we we we you know, we teamed up, you know it that sit up on the field with it, That's what it was about. Yeah, But with the with the even in Darkness album, what was that? Like, that's that's a hard thing to pull everybody together, especially at that point of everyone's careers because you guys are all at that point in time, cast is fucking out of here and then you got out of here and to

bring everyone together? What what? What? What was I'm assuming that was it organized noise? It kind of quarterback the greater process for that project? Like or what was it? What was making that album? Like it was organized? No because I mean we was both on tour, likes was doing Smoking Gruves tour. I think Goodie Marble was out with Uh. I think we just came off Fishbone in Daylight Soul to oh Ship. So so it was it

was it was a real crazy time. So we was doing the records in and out, coming in and out of town, you know, like, so we didn't really get to start to even do that do that album. We didn't get the tour a lot because just our schedules. Man, it was just we were just doing so much at that time. I can imagine with this project, what uh what what was the with the word survival kid? I mean, like when I see that and labels don't support big albums like that, Bro, why that stuff only happened every

so often? Not because they don't want to see something great, you know what I mean? Like you know, but because logistically, projects like that are expensive to do. You know what I'm saying. It's a lot of working parts, you know, especially if everyone's on different labels, different labels and different tax brackets and pay grades. That Yeah, it takes a

lot of humility from everyone involved, right Yeah. Yeah, because like you said, there might be somebody who be like, yo, man, I do it, but I need more than this person. And it's like now we're not doing it for that. We're doing it because about having more than that person. It's about I need what I deserve, right, because you're gonna turn to write back around and promote this to my audience, some said, the audience that I've earned and

work for. So if you gonna send it back to them, you know what I'm saying, Like, and you know, at least give me yah, damn you know what I need. Shit, I'm curious, was there ever a record or any sort of moment creatively that you guys as a group regret looking back on on on your guys' career. I got some I got. I'm gonna I'm gonna speak on this shop since since I had, damn there everything to do

with it. You know, even though now we we come in together and we talk about now, we laugh about it now, But like I gotta say, another age of Get Machine album, you know, it's some regretful parts on there for me, man, because I think the ambition was blind and man like, you know, we was in another spectrum and spear man like, you know, an atmosphere around that time and trying to correlate you know, I'm saying, like core audience with commercial uppeal, you know, and so

on and so forth, and just trying to try to pull it off. And that's that's me, man, Like you know, I mean, like, you know, I think it was some some different kind of malfunctions. And they're like songs like Amy and My Very First White Girl, and you know, people people like, oh my god, what it's good. Yeah, it's funny because I felt that as a fan, was gonna say. I know that. That's why I'm being honest with you. I'm being transparent because we've got to people.

That's a real conversation that we had. But you know what, you guys have tried this before in twenty thirteen. You know what I'm saying, and you know what I'm saying. Check it out. So it's like Bill and Mom always been controversial, you know and dangerous something like you know, like the South's most dangerous group is I like to, you know, look at it. So with that, I felt like it lent itself to you know, a larger conversation.

But it was supposed to be shock value, controversy, blah blah blah blah blah, but instead of that, it just ended up just being a connect I mean, like and disappointment, like you know, because you know we might even have to we might didn't have to reach that far. Sometimes sometimes you want to reach to to uh you know what I mean, like to to graph you know. Uh, what you feel like is what you feel is when you're in your reach. But sometimes you stretch yourself to thin,

you know what I mean. And I will say that I can be honest in saying that in retrospect. But then there were some moments I think people also maybe listen back to that project now, especially especially after we nail it with this project. I think people are uh listen back to that and be like, Okay, I can appreciate it more and and see it in a different light for what they were trying to do in that

time period. What I'm saying, you feel me, but like the missing link of that album was the cohesive uh sonic uh you know SOUNDBD you know, and just and just the energy you know, and the affection of organized noise. Yeah yeah yeah. If you if you do something back befault and everybody not not you know, you can't have you can't expect me might have to halfway support you, man, Like, don't never ask nobody to stratle fit for you man, like never no neutrals with us may either paup or drive.

You know what I'm saying, right, I think it's safe to say, like, the people who are screaming they want a Goodiemole album in twenty twenty are the people who want y'all to work with organized boys. They're the people who like, they're like, yo, you know, I think that there's something to be said about I just listened to I don't know if you guys heard the new Bust of Rhymes album. Yeah, yeah, great album, right, But I heard his album and I was like, yo, but Buster

did not like Busted. He took his time on the album. But what he did was he made an album that he knew his core diehard fans would appreciate in twenty twenty, right, And I feel like when I when this and that album got announced, I was just so excited. Man. I was excited because if it would have been announced without

organized nos, I would have checked it out. But I was like, Okay, sonically, this is gonna be something cohesaid, this is gonna bring back you know, this is and and and and maybe the gift in the Curse of the pandemic. You know, we're getting a lot of great music out of this pandemic. Hey, yo, gift Joe Mo. Did I say anything wrong about that? Oh? No, that was man. I mean I loved I loved the Age Gainst Machine. I mean, you know what I'm saying. I

mean a few song choices. Like you said, I mean, we could have we could have did something else, but for me, it was two songs for me that I wish, Like, damn, I wish I had a guy, and it was Dirty South and Black Ice, right, And we tried to do remixes for him, but they was not the same, right you feel what I'm saying, Like, like we tried to do the remix with with Mystical with uh it was the Dirty South remix with and then we did I forgot who produced the Black Ice remix. I think DJ

was still the same, wasn't it. Yeah? Okay, okay, okay, but yeah, those are the two songs that I like, Damn mother said to get on them songs right now. You know, black Eyes obviously is a record that like you know, this is like that shit just needs to just be left alone, you know what I'm saying. Oh, We're breaking down this video. We're not breaking it down. We're taking a break in the video to tell you all about our sponsors, odd Socks. All right, listen man,

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Com support us by supporting odd socks Let's go. Hey, you guys also went through this weird era of your career where the one Monkey Don't Stop the Show album came out. Obviously that was the album that Celo was not part of. How hard was it for you guys to get through some of the bumps in your guys's relationships. You know that that that that you know may or may not have been public the how I think, like, you know, at the end of the day, you guys,

we're here in twenty twenty. You guys did an album after that, but like that specific just era of your guys' relationship in the group. And at that point in time, I think, Celo, you're on your second solo album by then. I think, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, So what what was that era like? Because at that time, hey, man, I'm just saying, bro and look good the Sino Greens

perfect imperfection. That's my ship's point. When you dropped that ship and oh too, I was like, this ship did not just this is what I wanted from a Sino while it was man, I appreciate that, but you want to take that with Joe Gift. Come on, man, somebody speak that. Yeah, yeah shit, I mean, like I said, all of us, all of us grew up together, you know what I mean. So it wasn't nothing malicious to with, like shit, when I see that nigga, it's on on site type ship, So it ain't it was. It wasn't

never like that, you know what I mean. So it was just us being finding another way to communicate, you know what I'm saying with our fans, even though you know what I'm saying. We had we had all little brother with us, you know what I mean. But it was much since I remember seeing Selo. I didn't got THEMN Denmark. One day, you know what I'm saying. We

was in a festival somewhere. We were just I was walking around, man, and I forgot what year was that though you rememb when you're the one that was that was that was that's like hold on, that's that's like six that and when that one one album come out? When that come out right, oh four oh foe. So we were still working and everything. Man. I just happened to see Selo out and gotten there a whole nother country man and Denmark man. We was just like like,

damn man, what's up? A little bro like man? See your man? Man? It was instant love man. So I still remember what you had on your white dicky short set was with a green shirt up front. It what you were that one white who knows what you'all were wearing because there was a mind frame staatele Get was wearing some wild ship and see what he was wearing wild ship? I mean it was I'm gonna tell you where that came from. I could probably answer that to you because you started a lot of this ship. Man.

I was gonna say that was my next question, how much of this ship to get star when it comes to the why, because I feel like he don't get enough praise when it comes to you don't introduce a

lot of that wild fashion ship into the game. What what I'm gonna let he gonna speak for something I can want to speak on, you know, just say this because you know within our round, he was definitely you know what I mean, like doing it, you know the first like even before I even really knew Gift, I knew up Gift and guilt had really kind of made a name for himself from kind of going against the graind So everybody went gold, get more seal, you know

what I'm saying. And that's how I knew him, like I had been introduced to or he had been spoken of, Like I'm like, you know, you know, give me a seal. So you can just tell that was you know, that was like a call and car. That was a trademark, like apparently it was noticeable and ship in that time, you know what I mean. But you know, you know, the big homies a little older than me, so I

would only hear about certain stuff. But so Gil was definitely making a mark even in high school, was just going are away with it, you know what I mean.

Like he's definitely embellished on that within the group, you know what I'm saying, Like you know, and then in an extension of that, everybody had some of the shit in them, you know what I'm saying, Like you know, and especially when George Clinton christened us the Young parliament forkadelic, you know what I mean, like, which basically gave us a license to ill. You know what I'm saying, Like we can do anything we want to just do, you know what I mean like and and the god Mothers say,

it's okay, right, were snapped. You know what I'm saying. You feel me like, We're definitely snappy. I just want to what so double Body, because we all we all goody googles. You know what I'm saying. You feel me like all sweet niggas, all real you know what I mean, Like if we could defend our right to be different in the drop of a dime. You know what I'm saying. You feel me So it was no different than Africa Body and the Soul suning for us being the Black

Spades before they christened themselves. You know Africa about Zulu Nation, you know I mean, like so when they was wearing them costuming back then, It's like imagine being in the middle of the burnt down Bronx with them fucking God damn them roll, you know what I'm saying. Like so it was probably the same kind of effect, That's what I'm liking it towards. And they got away with it. And I knew they was. They was thorough because I

knew the backstory. So anybody from Atlanta, they knew what our backstory was, and they knew we could defend it. They're like, what sh had? Man, we just got to catch up to these niggas because they are some they on some extraterrestrial art form type shit. And hey, man, we ain't gonna say nothing. We can't say nothing about it, you know what I'm saying. You feel me like, because we want we were. It was interesting, it was intriguing, and people wanted to understand what the expression was about.

But it was just the rights of passage to be you know, just the individuals that we were, you know, I mean like we we fought for that, you know what I'm saying. Like, and it was an easy win too, because like we broke, we had nuts. Man, what I'm saying like nuts, I knew for a fact. I'm like, man, shit, Like what the fuck? Somebody gonna tell us what we can't do? You know what I'm saying, Like, Man, we laugh, we might even laugh for we get mad. You know

what I'm saying. You being like, but I got to tell you in thirty years, man, like, ain't nobody never disrespected us, bro I don't want a way bress man like, nobody listen, you are silver or is it gold? You? You were just a gold you when you went to that award show you was right when your whole head was gold and all gold that you win has the award.

I went, So, you know what I'm saying, like, it's all fun, it's all exhibitionism, passion tree, you know what I'm saying Like, it's definitely just being brave enough to be yourself, going against the odds, being different, being definitive, being distinguishable, you know, setting yourself apart, and it takes you take heart and soul to be yourself because the main identity crisis that most people in society go through

is not wanting to be alone. That's painful. Some people don't want Some people they they they sacrifice being an individual for the sake of not having to be alone, for the safe of being accepted by the by by people. You know, that's some real shit. That's really I mean, I feel like another thing. In the beginning, bro, it was just I just realized that our dialect was different.

I realized that the way we performed was different. And I came up with I came up with in my own here, and I was like, man, if they if they don't remember nothing we said, they gonna remember what I looked like. I just I remember we did we did a music conference in Nashville, and that was the first time I did it. And I mixed this these short sets with this green alligator overall set, and I remember seeing it was us and bad Boy, and I just remember seeing how they looked didn't be like wow,

like look like he looked wild. But at the same time, I knew that that was something that I had to continue to do, so I just start expounding on it. I just came back home and I just started going to fabric stores and I just start I just started testing things out. I just started going to Magic City and Monkey her Pants and just standing in there with all the girls in the strippers and the dope boys

and just seeing how they react to it. And once I just started doing that, walking in there with Lime Green all the way to the floor, jackets On and the dope boys, They're being like, oh, that's just guilt. I was like, I got him. Now I can do it. I can I can do it all the time. All right, Look, real quick, guys, last question, I just want everybody to Friday, the thirteenth album comes out, right, Yeah, real quick, let's say I put the album in right, now I want

everybody to give me a different answer. What's the first song I should go listen to? I know the right into us. I should just press play and let that bitch ride, which I'm gonna do. But give me, give me everyone's favorite song on the project quick, my people, people, back to back, back to back for my people. Where about Curry go? What's it going? Curry go? Curry go? All right, well, there you go. Listen. Friday the thirteenth, fully produced by Organized Noise, the New Goodie My rolbum

is out. Go support that ship. I appreciate off all of y'all man for sitting down with me and h taking the time out of your day. Man, you guys are all legends. I appreciate y'all. Thank you. Stay up, man, all right, stay up.

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