#268 - TK Kirkland

die this year? Damn you don't take care of your health? Well, yeah, you know, because I don't go to doctors at all. I haven't been in like a decade. Yeah. That's not. That's not that's not. That's not good. Fam. The other thing about James is James is I've been working with him for about two years. The entire time. He works out every morning, and you work out every morning every morning, but he stays the same weight. He's not working out. No, I'm working out. He got my Apple Fitness and tells

you calories. You ain't working out, nigga. I don't know who you lying to. I'll tell you. I lost it. I see, I can see you going into gym, walking around, looking at looking at the equipment and touching it like this. But I can see you're doing this. I got with you. I see you touching. You went to the gym. So how much weight you lost? So I lost one hundred pounds before the pandemic, gained all that back. Now we lost about forty. Okay, So listen, stop playing with your weight.

Stop going up and down. And the reason why I talked this, I've been on this planet a long time. I've seen so many people when they fluctuate with their weight. And what happens is that to me, what I've seen, it causes strokes, laid on down the line. It causes heart attacks because that's stress on your heart going up and going down, you know what I mean. And this is something I think is like we was all off

the air. I think this is a great thing to talk about health because we always talk about music, we always talk about relationships, but we never money. Talk and talk about money, but we never talk about health. And we want to teach these kids and women and everybody start going to the doctor. Let's let's start putting that out in the universe that we take care of ourselves, you know, so that's important. Okay, we appreciate you returning. Thank you. You are our first interview in the new spot.

By the way, super Bowl Week Interviews brought to you by deaf Jam Shout out to death Jam. But I wanted to talk to you because there was a clip that went viral of you recently when you were on Vlad, and it was essentially you saying, now, I'll let you kind of women have a certain time period to report if they've been sex sexual assaulted. Yes, was it an hour? It was an hour to report it? Okay, now I want you to yes, I'm going to elaborate please because

that sounds crazy. Yeah, this sounds crazy. And the reason why, and everybody that hit me from all over the world was basing everything on their personal experience. So I did this interview with this young lady and I explain. I explained to her what I felt, right, and I explained and I listened to what she said and what I tell the world when I tell you, guys, see everybody when they hear certain things, it's based on your journey

in life. See, we all have a flight pattern in life and right now, sitting here at the table, we have landed. So all your experiences right now is going to come out as we're talking. If I say certain things to you, you're going to feel a certain way

based on your journey that has led you here. So with the young lady, she says how she had got assaulted and that she this particular woman says she felt like it was going to be unnecessary to say anything because she felt like the cops wouldn't take hers seriously, that she wouldn't be playing. And then when I was listening to her, I said, you know what, you're right, But I said, I want to listen. Once you listen

to me, now into the world who's watching. When I say that you have an hour, what happens if you do it within an hour, whether that person, whether cosp believe you or not, and that person who violated you gets noticed that he did something wrong, you could probably take that person off the street. But if you wait a year, wait thirty years, and he's really a predator, you give him a chance to get more victims over the years. But if you get a person right then

you might could get them off the street. You might and get them locked up that day. Now everything is based Some women say, oh, I probably didn't want to feel comfortable at that time. Some women say, well, I didn't have the characters until I saw such and such did when I saw her do it, that's what made me do it. And everybody's right. So there's no wrong thank you, there's no wrong answer. So your thing, your thing is just like yo, like my advice to you

would be if not you got an hour or your fuck. Yes, but my advice to you would be immediately reported, immediately, immediately reported, because you get that person. So I think I think that's what I think. That's a lot better than how I feel like me and him were like, hey, we were scrolling on that. I think that shade was like god, no, no, no, what you say and what you said is right, is not what I said? Is how I said it? Right? I do think that that's

not bad advice. Yes, right, he's pretty much saying for better chances to lock somebody up and just tell as quick as possible. And if you're a woman who's going through something and maybe it's a family member, maybe it's more complicated and it takes a little bit more. There's no wrong there's no wrong. That's fair. Yeah, there's no wrong because and if I offended anybody, I apologize, but because I was right, I just worded it the wrong

way that everybody couldn't understand it. It's important, Yeah, it's very important. Yeah. I remember that we all hear stuff different, so your attention sometimes the people's perception might take it differently. So now you got to clear your attentions up. Yes, it all makes it. So listen, man, you are on the road, you're managing yourself, your podcast is going crazy. How are you feeling in the new year, TK, how's every I mean, you're looking good. Man. Here's the thing, man,

I loved life so much. Gentlemen, you feel me like I really love this thing. I really love life, and I teach that. And one of my friends said, TK, don't die. I said, what do you mean? She said, because most people with comedians commit suicide because they depressed. Yeah, and I said, I said this in my DNA. I'm a fly ass nigga. That's exactly what I told her, you know, because I said, there's nothing about me that's depressed.

Even though most comedians they say they hide in something, right, I'm not that dude, I'm not hiding nothing, and I hope I'm an exception to the rule. Right. I moved through life happy. I'm blessed, and don't get me wrong, the the things I went to when I was hustling back in the day, when I was doing crazy shit. All this makes me appreciate life. But then I get these constant reminders, like my dreams be so insane. I have murdered people, I've got robbed in dreams and my dreams.

And when I wake up, I go, oh, man, thank god, Right, that was a dream. But I turn a negative to a positive. I say to myself, think that was a dream. I really appreciate my life because I could have been all these other things that I'm dreaming about. So I go to bedack at nine. My daughter's just tripping because I don't sleep along that very long. She said, Dad, you don't sleep long. I might sleep for hours, might feel like a whole day because I feel so good.

She'll sleep at nine and wake up at like twelve one o'clock. Jesus damn me rolling for the net. But it feels like I slept the whole like eight, nine, ten hours. And what I say to people is just funny, I say, is because I love life so much that I gotta get all my minutes out this motherfucker. Yeah, you only got one. I want I want every minute fucking coming in me. That's how much I love this shit.

Let me ask you this, Like, it feels like over the last like ten years or so, there's been kind of like a cool I mean it's probably always been this way. I feel like you kind of move outside of the comedy industry. Explain. I feel like when we think of like some of the bigger comedians, right, it feels like it's real clickie. Yes. Yes, it's like a cool gay, cool guy club, and it feels like you're just existing out like almost like you're an independent rapper. Yes, yes,

does that make sense? That's so true? You know what I mean. There's like there's guys who are like a part of like the machine of comedy. Then there's TK who's just thriving in his own way, right, booking his own shows, right, running out. Is that fair to say? Yeah? I always say eagles fly alone, you know, so I'm an I fly alan. I love seeing what people are doing, but I move at my own beat, and I love that you know. And I don't think nobody's a more

brilliant manager than me. Nobody's more brilliant and getting that money to me, nobody's more brilliant about health and knowledge. And it's a shame. I got to pretty much keep it to myself. But when I do get an OG a young youngster to mentor, I give him some gamers here. And one of the kids I'm getting drawn to because he really listens is a young comedian in Lewis Belt and Louis Belt. When I see him, he's always, oh g, keep teaching me, keep teaching me. And he really fucking listened.

So every time I see him that that energy is getting connected and I'm thinking about pulling them over in a minute and really drop him the OG one on one game on how to move through this because I want to retire in about three years. I want to retire. But a man told me years ago, your man named David Claim. He said, t K never retired because you'll die. And this kind of lifestyle does keep you on topic, keep you. I smell good, you know what I'm saying. Like,

I take my ships here. I got to stay well shaved and all that you got to be presentable, you know. So it's a good thing. So I maybe I might retire, I might not, or I might really just go start doing something else and do shows once a month, like you know, I might do it that way. We'll see. But every day I wake up, the phone is my emails mine did something happen with like a previous manager? Or did Jesus always I've always managed, so you bush? Yeah,

I never do no bullshit and agencies. I've tried to book me c a A, William Morris, all these people, but when I've talked to him after two or three months, they were like, Yo, there's nothing we could do for you. And I it's not that I want to share my money. I had this horrible feeling I got to call you to find if somebody booked me yeah, or I gotta wait for you to call me and say such such books you. That got to be a horrible fucking feeling. Does somebody tell you when you're gonna eat? I can't

do it, yo, I can't do that shit. Are you consuming like any comedy as a fan? Because Netflix drops and feels like two or three specials a week at this point, Like, are you are you tapping into like other comedian specials, just to kind of see what they're doing. Or no, no, no, I tell comedians I have just one rule. Never watch another comic. You could take a peek, but never watch another comic because maybe subconsciously something happens

there that you don't you watch. You watch them and they funny, and the next thing you know, you either flip they joke or you got their style. And you ever watch my standard, My shits so cold that if Mike up said it best, he said, you steal TK Kirklan shit. You know it's TK because nobody talks the way I talk or think the way that I think.

And in the nineties, when I was trying to pursue HBO, going to meetings, showtime, going to meeting because that was kind of like the that was a pinnacle of comedy, like get get on there. And I was always my mindset was always ahead of my time, being independent, and you kids came along, and I always knew in the nineties that my career was gonna change based on youngsters like you, because I didn't know what it was us didn't. I didn't know there was gonna be podcasts. I didn't

know there was gonna be this streaming thing. I just knew something was going to have said my world is going to change when the young kids get older, and then bam, we have this new life and entertainment. You know, Like now I have my own network. I don't have to go to HBO. I don't have to go to Netflix. But most menians who send the brainwash, I got to Netflix. I gotta have much show. That's true. But I do my own ship, make my own money, like you said,

like an independent rapper. Yeah, it feels like the comedy. I guess the measurables of what makes you a successful comedian is changing now because because now you'll see guys like Andrew Schulz or Joe Rogan or the eighty five South guys. Yes, and they have they have their own platform. That's way bigger than any Netflix show. Yes, that's bigger than doing a special and selling it like I think Andrew Schul went he probably, I mean he made millions of millions million. I did the show a couple of

years ago. It's good to see what he's done. But I do the same thing. So it's like it's like it feels like that at least the tide is turning in the comedy world in terms of like back in the day, you almost had to have a sitcom or catch a movie, yes, or catch one of those roles to kind of be considered like and what you guys are these podcasts that tape it do your thing? You guys are the new Arsenial Hall Shows, the new David Letterman.

See because back then, you go, I'm the only show that you could get on and you could only have like three or four minutes at a time, exactly supposed to sit down for an hour and people really, you know, the world watches Gods Show. The world listened to my podcast, The world listened to Blad, the world listened to the Breakfast Club. You know. So it's really done an honor, it's been. It's been a blessing for me. How important has LAD been in terms you got that ring camera

going crazy? I didn't know, I don't even know it was on. It was yeah, I thought it was you. I got the ring, I got security cameras. But how important because I feel like a lot of people have discovered you through that platform, through Vlad. Absolutely, it feels like you guys got a good partnership going. I love lad Man. You know, Lad, I didn't know this was going to happen. It started like six seven years ago when I at the Breakfast Cloud and I didn't want

to do the Breakfast Cloud. My son did you know? Just like he got me on this. My son Eric said to me one day, Dad, you should do the Breakfast Club. I said, I ain't fucking with them kids, because I knew Charlamagne Wae was side Botty Williams and he was a kid. So when I heard about the BREAKSTI he got time. Ain't got time for that. And then my son said, Dad, and I listened to like he's a smart kid. I said, okay, cool. And when I did it, the numbers were so I didn't really care.

I didn't know about numbers either. I didn't know what that meant. I didn't know what views and all that ship. But I didn't care about none of that. And after I did that interview, by the time I touched the lobby of that hallway at the Breakfast Club called me mm hmm. He said, hey, I just saw you on the Breakfast Club. Would you like to do Lad? And I just felt on it. I had just like I don't know what the lad is. They told me the ares. I went over there and then those numbers was in

the millions. The Brookes Club was in the millions, and I still it still didn't register. Now when I walk down the street, I don't care of them. In London. In Germany, everybody know. And when my daughters with me, they be looking like you just dad does us, you know. And it's just a real good feeling that I'm getting the recognition that I always felt I deserved. But I had the ability, the calmness to wait and be patient. I didn't panic, you know, it was like playing checkers.

You know, you check me. So I see all the other comedians who are hilarious, people who I started, people people I started that they know I'm funnier than them, Like it ain't no secret. Every comic in this game know about Tea to the motherfucker k And when we touched that motherfucker Mike, you know, they confront all they want, They could lie all want in front of that crowd. Yeah, when we get on that because everybody, when you came up, you had to come through me. Because I had six

clubs in Los Angeles. Everybody had to come through TK, and I will be able to shut. Like Jamie Fox said on this interview one, he said, every every comic in the world is afraid of TK Kirkland. He said, because t K can go in the club at a dance club and shut the motherfucker down, you could be in it. It could be a dance motherfucks be dancing. I get the motherfuckers quiet. Turn that bitch out. True story, y'o. And that's why I loved being on the tours I was on back in the day. But d m X

baby and them to cash only millionaires Madonna. I mean I told with everybody and no one, no, not every community can't handle that, especially a raptor. You did the madonnaur. I did Madonna too? Oh wow, Yeah Madonna did she you know, get a little bit of I mean you feel like her type is all same? Yeah, yeah, yeah, See. I met Madonna through a nigganame Haitian Jack. I feel like Haitian Jack is a name I've heard a lot. Yeah, Haitian Jack was the man back in the day, and

I shout out to Haitian always show man. Love the Haitian Jack, and he was my he was my muscle. Okay, you know what I'm saying. It sounds like the kind of guy who Yeah, Jack was my muscle. And you know I always stay quiet. You know, I moved a certain way. But people found about my reputation a little by little, and I went from that type of maybe confused young man in sense because I went to college, ran track right, and I had this ever where I

was just doing crazy things. But when I sit and understand the universe at my age of sixty two, I understand all that was meant for me to be knowledgeable now because when the podcast is amazing, my T. K. Kirkle podcast is because I've been through so much. I can teach people think and I tell people now when I look back and say, you know what, you can't teach nobody nothing. You ain't been through nothing that's real, you know what I mean? And I've been through a lot.

And I'm glad. Even did a poll when it came to relationship advice and what's the gentleman who passed away? Kevin Saniel, Kevin Samuel, He had a hunt like ninety something and I was like eighty percent on RELATIONSHP advice. I was writing number two on relationship advice right after Kevin Samuels. So I thought that was cool. You know, that was a respect because Kevin Samuel was good. Oh Kevin, he dropped some Yeah, women hated him, but it was he did. He was honest, and I used to always

say I wanted to give him the game on. Yeah, you could be brutal to women, but you got to give him game on. What's the solution. You can't just ship on him with no solutions. Give the solution, right and it just move on right, right? So you know I'm gonna talk about you, but you're gonna listen to me. But here's the seleution, the solution, right, and that's where that's my style. Yeah, I give the solution on what you should do. Well, obviously you are unmarried, correct, Yes,

you are a single man. Yes, absolutely, What was the closest you had, like for you, like, because me and me and James are obviously in new semi new marriages. He just got married, we have. Yeah, it's okay. In general, though, like you know, I do, I do feel like there's a lot of different perspectives on monogamy marriage all of that. For you. Let's say hypothetically, somebody is going through a

rough patch in their relationship. Are you the kind of guy that believes in like counseling or anything like that, or like, like, what would be some advice you would give a couple who might not necessarily be eye at the moment. Yeah, get the fuck out. That's a good question, because me, I'll get rid of you. Me you me, you gotta go problem, Yeah, you gotta go now. It might hurt because I might like you. But what I would say is what type of niggas you was fucking

with before you met me? See? Because every man has a responsibility to make a woman better by the time she meet the niggas she really supposed to be with. So when I fuck with certain women, I'm like, what niggas fucked with you? See? Most niggas wanted to fuck you, but nobody wanted to give you a game. Nobody wanted to teach you how to move when you roll with certain niggas. See, I rolled a certain way. A female got to be a certain way. When you roll with me,

you can't be all that back and forth. You move with dignity and respect, because that's how I look at myself and you all over the place. You loud, You cause a confusion. You petty, Maybe you can't rock with me any ounce of pettiness. Your ass gotta go, gots to go immediately. And no matter how much you like a woman, man, I've done it. Yeah, I got a man, I've done it. I've been with some bad bitches mm hmm. But you got to say to yourself, I love your sister,

but I love me more, you know. And that's why I teach people you gotta love yourself more. And men who are in relationships, it all depends on who you are. Some niggas ain't got games. Some niggas ain't when I say game. See, most people think game is just magical way of pulling the bitch right. You know what I'm saying, Oh you got game, that bitch I ain't got game. I'm a nigga who speaks through. It's like life philosophy, right, Well, every man should have a what are your intentions? Right?

And when you meet them, when you got to look at it, what's your what's my intentions with the sister? And if you feel a break it down and break down your constitution, say, sister, I rock with you. So here we're gonna make a constitution between you and I, and it's based on our understanding or how we're gonna move with each other. Sometimes it's gonna go over some women heads, right they you mean the constitution? You know, do you think the traditional relationships the walls are kind

of breaking right now? Like back in the day, you have relationship. You have the man bring the money home, you have the woman keep the house. It's all fucked up. Now do you think it's worse? It's worse now. It's all fucked up all over the world. Like, you really got to find somebody that was raised a certain way, see, because what men and women don't do? You might, I might like you, but what is your mother and your father? Like?

What is your friends you rolle with? Because once you start dating that person, you got to deal with all the other words your baby daddy situation, right, situation? You know, do you want to tolerate that? What comes with it? You know, people don't think about that because you just like that person. Yeah, I think too, like women nowadays, if you're pretty, all you are is the willingness to show yourself on only fans away for making six figures a year these Yeah, and like that kind of like low,

like that was never the case. Yeah, you get I got to look at most men and women don't look long term, correct, So when you can look at a woman, you gotta look twenty years from now. But this woman, it's her character positive enough to take care of me if I get ill. Okay, she don't have no money, but do I make her an asset? But if I make her asset, but I ain't shit, I'm gonna be still fucking around. I make her rich and then she

leave me. And see so many variables and I think I sat on the show before dating is like a Rubric's Q. You gotta hope all the collars fit because everything is different. Is that why you're still single? I'm single because I find most women to be petty and I can't deal with it. Yo. Yeah, yeah, that's that's probably one of those trades that will be hard to Yeah, listen to me. I cannot deal with pettiness. It's that serious to me because I told you I'm happy. I

love life. Yeah, you're not gonna fuck them money. If I'm introduce you into my life, you gotta add to it, and you got to add you're removing me from any piece of happiness. It ain't work. I think that's time we hear I said that. Men here they have twenty five thousand being a relationship right. And everywhere I go people always ask me like, t K, we ain't got that good of money, not that much money. Respectfully, let me to you. And I told this guy going through

the airport, he asked me this other day. See, my philosophy is really for the young kids. Them kids fourteen fifteen loving me because them young boys, it's like you're a rock with you, because I want to understand stack your money. It's like going to college or buying your first house. The twenty five thousands because they thought I meant give the female twenty five thousands. The twenty five thousands for you, because when you got a little change,

your choicing holes is different. You got a little change, you moved through differently. Most men fuck with the girl because she dropped it. That's true. But don't bring nothing to the table because ass don't pay the bills. I mean, ass don't pay the bills. I mean unless you've got a girl doing only fans or whatever. I'm sure there's a few routes I'm going, yeah, for sure, I'm there. But even if you have the money, what's your character. I was gonna say that there's there's a there's a

takeaway in other avenues. If the ass is paying the bill, it's your character. One time I was talking about women using too much profanity. Yeah, they're getting upset. Now. I know no man but thinks that's hot. That'll bring his girl around, his grandparents, around his mother, and a girl every other world who's using profanity. Now to the ladies listening, nobody here is trying to tell you what to do. What I'm saying is I'm not saying you shouldn't curse.

I'm saying curse when you're really upset, when it means something. Because I look at women as being the most beautiful women on the planet. And you never know who's watching you, right, and there's another girl watching the way you move through life, whether you know it or not. And if you use for family, you act in the full, you're really guiding her. She see you doing anything is cool. But if you say move a certain way, that girl gonna move SA

one good. So all women have to be responsible for each other because when women move a certain way and move with dignity, moving class. It's domino fact. Other women want to be that way, you know, and that's important to me. How do you make a one? Okay, you said to earlier's say, there's a beautiful girl, but she doesn't have anything in terms of career wise, monetarily. But you said, because if you really like someone, you tell a female. Look, I rock with you, but you got

to listen to me. So I'm gonna put you through school. I think should get into nursing. If you got to change, I'm gonna pay for you to go to school, get nursing. I said, you like to do nails. Well, let me see your character first, you know, over the next couple of years. Because what men do. We get so excited about a fine female. We move at warp speed, super work speed. You know, we bind cars, we bind jewelry too much. Lady, you find out her character is horrible

as a person. She fine, but bit your character is fuck with me. And these niggas want up. They do so much. Sometime they want to want to hurt the girl. They want to kill them because of their bad Yeah, because they mad at themselves. Yeah, Yeah, you didn't know who you signed up for you move too quick. You move too quick, and you really have to take your time. I tell the men all the time, believe it or not. The girl you meet that day, wait thirty days or

longer before you fuck her. Listen to when you're talking on the phone. Hear how she's talking to different people in the background. She got kids and she put the phone. God damnit sting, I told you put the fucking me. Listen to when she talks alarm detector going off, so she was too lazy to change the battery. Listen, you gotta pay attention to you hear that, and then every

time you call it's still going off. And then the person actually says, oh, that's been going on for a few months, and then your mind you're like, there's not the girl I want to be with. It's these small little things that can tell you about the person. If you that lazy that you're not gonna change the smoke detective battery, it's something fucked up about you. Yeah, you go out with a woman and you see her car and she got a lot of ship her vehicle, whole

cars dirty. I tell women a time, whether it's a fuck up car, clean, a nice car, inside better be nice. It's a representation of you. That's how look at like feet and nails. Yes, I'm like if your feet aren't yes, if you got fucked up feet or your hands don't

look like you take care of them. Like, what's that say about how you take care of your feminine And like I said, and if you get a girl who listens, you like her, you're gonna put her through school because you're protecting yourself because when you get older, you know you might get ill. Yeah, it's that person gonna wipe your ass if you get sick. You haven't found that person yet. I think I bound them couple of people,

but they still was petty. That's one thing. So what I do and like to find petty to you give me like a situation that you're just like like a pay example, I was dating the girl. Okay. One thing about me, I'm very respectful. Okay, I'm a gentleman. Right And because I travel so much, I give you my itinerary on how moved because not for one moment I want you to worry about what I'm doing as a man out of respect. This respecting, this ultimate respect. I'm

gonna give you ultimate respect. Because I want your mind to be a piece piece is. I want your pussy to be right with me. I don't want arguments. That's how much I appreciate peace of mind. So me and this person was doing this for about three or four weeks, and in three days, some bullshit happened. She wasn't picking up the phone or the phone up, and then when I finally talked to her, she thought that the ship was okay. I said, you got me fucked up, and I liked her, and I thought I can give her

another opportunity. I couldn't do it because in my mind, say, I have the ability to meet somebody else every day, so because I gotta fall in line or get on line, because I'm like next, there's not a problem with that. I feel like people get upset at other people's preferences, you know, like, if that's your preference, I don't have time to do. I'm not a therapist. I'm not trying

to figure right when people meet. A relationship is not that supposed to be about arguments, supposed to be happy, And if that person's not making you happy, you shouldn't be with that person. If you're arguing over stupid shit, right, I'm talking about stupid shit, right. Ain't nobody got time for that shit, y'all? When you can meet see you know, when I hear you young guys getting married, it's phenomenal to me, right right, because what you met maybe thirty

women in your life. Maybe I'm just gonna put that out maybe listen, buddy, Yeah, thirty like that's insane to me. All due respect to I've had, I've had quite Ah, I've had quite a run. Okay, so that's good. So you know, the girl that you with is the girl you're supposed to be with. Yeah, I married her when I was thirty one, and I would say from about

seventeen to twenty nine. Okay, that's good. I was, And that's what I want to hear, taking down strange and a right very yeah, very large and all those and believe it or not, all those experiences made you choose her, Yeah for sure. And then I also had like a crazy baby mama situation, the most toxic, wild ass bitch

of all time. Yes, you see what I'm saying. Everything I said earlier, Yeah, everything that you experienced, your flight, Yeah, you met her, all those things you went to said to you this is the one, the one for sure for sure. Yeah, when I met my wife because me and her were friends first, so I kind of like got to know her, like all the stuff you're saying, like I kind of already had. I knew a lot of that stuff. How she's built her character, you know,

very good. But I'm glad you understood what I was saying because that's so important if you could find that. Yeah, you gotta win her, that's fair. What do you feel because I feel like recently, I mean again, you move in your own stratosphere, but when we see guys like Chappelle or you know, I saw Louis c k they were mad at some some stuff weak from a Louis ckset where he was just working out. It wasn't even supposed to get out there. Do you feel like because comedy,

I feel like is on purpose, we're supposed. I feel like I want to kind of be like offended when I go to a comedy show. But like in terms of like some of these bigger comedians, these cancelation campaigns, it feels like, especially with Dave Man, what are your thoughts like if you were to talk to a comedian like Dave or Louis c. K or these guys, like, like, is that something to even worry about when you're at that level? Or do you just kind of do you? You just do you? Those guys are on a whole

nother level. I've watched their careers grow and it's just fascinating to see all this because, like I said, when I started this with Michael Williams and Robin Harris back in nineteen eighty five, while these guys wasn't around right, so to see them do they thing, to see how this this entertainment thing works. And I guess in the last ten years, the world has changed, right, the world's changed. Like what we knew as entertainment for the last thirty years,

throw it all out the window. Yeah, because it doesn't apply. Like whoever think the Kadashians would be as rich as they are? It's crazy, man, you gonna stand what I'm saying. And it's famous as as famous as they are, And

the world changed. So the thing in entertainment I would tell people is do your best, make everybody your associate because you never know who's gonna blow, right, Like I keep your bridges open, your bridges open, right, you know, I think that's what you gotta do, and then you can't worry about the the he says, She says, give me example, like when I had a problem with Eddie Murphy Charlie Murphy back in the day, and people felt like TK got black ball you see the stupid shit,

But nobody blackballed me. I'm still working. We just have social media to show you what I was doing. I never have missed a beat, right, never missed a beat. But those experiences in life, as embarrassing as it is today, I'm actually glad I also went through it because, like I said, I had a time when I was really that nigga. So people know that nigga you don't really want to cross because t to them. Motherfucker. Hey get you, but not knowing at the same time, at sixty two,

I'm really on a spiritual journey. I don't know. I'm not What was the issue, the origin of your issues with Eddie and Charlie, Well, it was an issue something that I just wanted to mention, just want to get because it's been talked about for over forty years. It happened in nineteen eighty two, and it's a thing that I really like to not really discuss too much. Ye,

you've discussed it. Yeah. My thing. My thing, with anything I've ever done in life, I was supposed to go through it, and as a man, you stand up to it, apologize. If these people are still around, if they accept it, accept that they don't they don't, you know, because everybody know I'm a man like I move a certain way. I want to know, do you have any advice man, because we've been losing a lot of artists at a

high rate now. Obviously when you were coming up, parc eyed Biggie died, yes, but nowadays it feels like every year we're losing every other the month, yeah, five to ten guys or dying. I mean, you know, the takeoff situation was super tragic. Yeah, because you felt like a freak accident. You got to know who you are what I mean by I got to know who you are.

You can't always keep it real. You got to know sometimes you're better than people, right, Because if you feel like you better than people, you're going to say I'm not going on that block. I'm not going into that situation because I'm successful that I gotta move differently, because especially when you're black, you're a target and that young man was gambling in a club. Right. If you want to gamble, nigga, let's go to the casino. Let's do

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you have a lot more to lose. Yes, they should have been in a casino doing it professionally with bitches around them in bottles, right, security everywhere, camera where you protect it. I do feel like sometimes that is kind of like the conundrum of hip hop because we look at artists and we want them to keep it real and we want them to be about what they're rapping about, but at a certain point in time, it's counter productive

to them as people. Yeah, you got to know, like, once you make it in your math, you know you change. You shouldn't you changed? She was like, oh, you changed. You're supposed to see everybody you mean in your life once you start growing up, you you still could be their friend. I just can't rock with you the way because my life is growing. No disrespect to you. I've grown. That's what life's about. You should be had be let

them girl. I'm not gonna ship on you right. I'm just taking off and I want to see everything in this world has to off here. You're still gonna be my friend. But I want to meet more people. I want to meet everybody before I leave. Yeah, like people. I would tell people, if you die where you're born, you ain't you never did nothing. That some real ship. That's a good one. Yeah, I think you should. You

should be buried somewhere else. Don't get me wrong. Some people who are famous, they get they fly back coming right right right, right, right, right right. But just for the life itself. Kids who grow up in certain cities and they move, that's that's a success. That you can move from where you grew to somewhere else, make it and then get buried in a different place. I think that's so important. And we've seen a lot of these

guys die on the block or the like streets. Yeah, because everybody, everybody got the mindset of the hood shit and the goal is to get the bag. It don't have to be a big bag. As long as you can pay your bill, longs you pay your cable, you you can feed everybody, right and find ways to make money. Because if you don't read about what's going on with the government, if you don't read how the world has changed with coding, right how you're walking around here with

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the type of yees do you me? Ask you this because you're very financially I think that your financial literacy is at a high level. Do you how do you like? Do you leverage credit cards? Do you use credit cards? Or are using my credit cards all the time. I don't worry about interest rates. I hate people worry about interest rates on their credit card. I don't give a shit. I just I just pay it paid off. I just paid it like I use it, paying the motherfucker. I

pay it off before the end of the month. Yeah, if I spend ten fifteen thousand, that ship is paid by Monday. That's smart. And then you get all the free points. Yeah, I'm not worrying. I'm not worrying about the people were worried about credit, the people who are living beyond their means. Yes, you're supposed to use the credit card as a tool, yeah, to build your credit, to get free per right, all that, and then pay that bitch off. My credit is in the high. I

think I'm almost high eight hundreds ship seven ninety. Yeah. I haven't always been like three. Yeah, And I haven't always been like that. My credit was fucked up at one time, you know. I remember when I was younger, trying to get bally put their name, put a card in their names, and all that type of ship. I was gonna pay the bill and all that. But I see how the world worked out now now and I

ain't worry about that. But credit is good. Credit is important to all men, you know, Like I think that's something important too, that when you get with a woman, y'all talk about how we can help each other get a credit together. Right now, It wasn't like that one was growing up. Now you can use your apartment on your credit helps your credit score. Yeah, your apartment, your apartment. Now you can put on report it to help boost

your credit. There's there's a credit card b I l T that they just dropped this year that's you could what is it. It's it's the one that you can pay your rent on the credit card. So it it's b I l T, right, the build credit card. That's good. So it's like it's like this new credit card and it allows you. So what you do is you set it up with them and then they pay your rent for they'll send a check to your landlord every month.

But it goes on your credit so you can pay it off obviously, but it goes towards getting you rewards hotel also. But now you've got to think of a fee on that, correct. I don't know. I don't actually know. It's a freak card. There's no monthly, there's no so long as expressed. They got like five hundred yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's if you got the big you got the big guy. I got the big boy, you know, yeah, I got the big boy. So but that's good to know.

I'm we'll put that in my stand up B l T b I l T b I l T built b I l T about saying in the name if it's B l t. Yes, okay, good, let my tax lading know because I don't think I've ever wrote that all and I spent a lot of money. I need to tell how that ship absolutely. Ye know, what would be your advice for somebody who is James Andre Jefferson Jr. This guy's huge on TikTok. Yes, I know he was telling me he's got I mean, the Rock dms him

every other day. Uh, this guy's very successful in his lane, but he wants to actually start doing actual stand up commons. Because would you say, James, you're you're an internet comedian so pretty much. I started getting on stage when I was thirteen, right, and then I seen the wave when I was like nineteen eight. Online is his poppet. Right, made a stupid mistake. I stopped doing stand up online. So now I'm mainly online. Now I'm getting back. I'm doing open mics and stuff. And I told you about

my agency. They want to start get a tour going. Ever, so I'm just trying to get my ship back together. So what advice would you have for you? Gotta stay on stage? Yeah, no, there's no magical thing you can do. Gotta put the work in you gotta put the work in, and there's no shortage of open mics here, Yeah, there's there's there's no secret cut there, there's no shortcut. You gotta you got it right. You gotta go hit that stage, and you gotta hit it, yo, you gotta be on

stage leads. When I was coming up, I was going to stay at least seven times a week. I could do a show, then get in the car zoom way across town to go do a show there. It was crazy. You know it's crazy, But I laugh Now I'm sitting here with you guys, and I'm sitting in places all over the world because I was patient to understand there was gonna be a moment for me. And it's still getting better. I was telling me and James always talk

about doing open mics, and I have a joke. I have the beginning of a joke, but I don't know how to. It's that we're all a certain percentage of gay. I'm listening. Do you watch lesbian porn? No? Do you like you gotta? I mean you like dick and your porn anyway? Clever? Right, that's clever. You don't like a small dick in your porn? Right? Yeah, that's clever, but okay, if you're doing it looking that way, I have I

have what you call dick envy. Yeah, I mean there because like I got a nice dick, me too, and I wish I had three extra inches. Everybody does like and you know me like, and I can sling this, but sometimes when I see I'm envious with the niggas with big dick. My thing is is like, I don't want to watch a porno where the dude's got a smaller dick than me, because I'd be like, it makes sense when you look at it. It It doesn't mean you're gay.

Don't mean you fruity. Maybe one you know, it don't matter, maybe two second gay because okay, so you're telling me I don't think it's gay. It's not gay, but it's it's it's gay ish No, no, no no, no, it's still not even gaysh It's understanding sex. Okay. See there's certain things you just have to understand, Like sex is supposed to be nasty. Yeah you're looking, it's not gay. You just see somebody doing work and you say, okay, that's cool and you can have I wish, I wish I

could like that decent premise for a joke. Though, yes, it's a great a great setup. You know, I just want to go to an open mic and get that one off just like this, And I asked you this question. It's ash cheeks one bird or do I have to spread them apart? I like that. I'm still laughing at both.

That means you be on poor her looking at the dicks like no, no, no, no no no no. I just know if I if I see a thumbnail and I click on it and I open it and it's like it's like an inadequate dude or some LESSONID it motivates you. If you see it motivates me. It motivates you. You see a nigga throwing down, You're like, nigga, fuck this ship. You know what I'm saying, I'm better than this motherfucker.

Fuck that nigga. You know what I'm saying. That nigga did what nigga, Nigga, you ain't got ship off me? And then it helps mentally because when you fucking the girl, you could say, you know, pretend my dick is that big, even though I got a little dick and I'm a fucker. The way this niggas fucking that girl in the video. And even though my dick is little, I got the word, I got the verbage. Yeah, take this big dick, even though she laughed. But in your mind, because we all

get caught up. Individual were all influence. Music influence us, porn, commercials, influence on what we wear, males, cologne, and away a nigga fuck a woman influenced you as well because you want to be better than what you watching. And porn can also negatively influence you. If you watch too much, you get wrapped up in it. You can you, it can be. I watched porn now maybe five times a year. I'm that busy that that's a great, great But even my sex life is not used to being my sex life.

When I was running, I swear I was. Now my sex life is not even past two mm hmm. It's a it's probably a zero nine to nine. Are we Are we doing the viagra? No? No, not yet, not yet, not yet. You know, I'd like to introduce this is a great opportunity to talk about. Go to blue shoe dot Com right now, same active ingredients, okay, yeah, and you will beform delivered to your door. Discreetly and then we spental why I won't. Here's a bootlegs. I had a couple of doctors who died taking sea alice and

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the morning and you're shitting I had. I did an interview with this man who's a doctor, and he was saying that young kids, you guys age, Yeah, you wrecked our dysfunction. Who I don't see, I don't have the function. No, No, just just saying in general, right thing, and because of health, because they're not taking their cells, you know, with the lean, with the smoking, and they're not working out, you're destroying your body. My walk, yeah, because you walk like you're

sixty something years old. When I saw you, I said, get about the couch. Yeah, I saw you. When I was walking, I was said, I mean I'm thirty two. Oh nig, you should be embarrassed. You should be embarrassed. I tell you walking like you almost seventy years old because I've been working out so hard since two thousand and like sixteen. I'm gonna put you up on game. I'm gonna ship because he is like ship, like where we at right now? Yeah, he's like, I can tell

you he's fucked up. Now watch this One'm about to tell you where you're at right now? This area is beautiful, right. Walk maybe twenty blocks down and twenty blocks back every day one you're gonna work. That's gonna get your heart right right. It also gives you time to think about your material that you're gonna do. Just walk and look at different things. Therapeutic, be dodging a lot of homeless, ship down people. When you start seeing certain things like

the matrix, the materials start coming to you. That's what you gotta do. When you when you become a certain comedian, things come to you. Right. You be surprised, y'all. I swear every day every day you take an hour from here to go walk. I don't know you walk an hour? Crazy? No, no, no no, no, that's a sprint you are going to take. Look, just walk until you get a nice at right. Do that every day. I promise you on my life and to change your life. My main thing has been my

die because I do. You like ship, you like DJ Callid and Rick Ross, y'all have been the same way for so long. Here's here's here's the advice on eating. Put in your body was beneficial. If it doesn't benefit you, why you're eating it? So I just started this year salad the day. Yeah, yeah, And we gotta hope it's not too late. I hope sometimes you can start too late. Health is based on starting young and going your whole life.

Sometimes your kids start too late. So the walking see the most important exercise that people see lifting and all that. That's not the most important muscle your heart. So you want to get your heart. That's why you gotta walk. And then you gotta feed yourself. You gotta love yourself to the point that you just won't put anything in your body. You gotta drinking. What it is people who won't drink water, right, and they don't research on how important water is for your body to keep you alive.

I drink a lot of water. And here's the one as you get older, and I'll tell you why you have to drink water. One, you should drink a bottle of water before you go to bed at night because it presents prevents heart attack and strokes. I didn't know that that's what water does to you. The body is that is the weakest point between four and six o'clock in the morning. That's when most people die and they sleep between four and six. Wow, because your body is that's,

for some reasons, the weakest point in your body. I'm not saying water is going to actually stop it, but I've also done my research. Water prevents heart attacks and strokes. Then you want to drink a glass of water if you do anything so before you start your day, and that wakes up your organs in your body. I've read that. Yeah, that and most people do the wrong thing when they eat in the morning. You're not supposed to ea in the morning. Right now, you're supposed to eat, but you

put the wrong things. You put eggs and bacon in your body. Coffee, you're not supposed to eat that. Ti after twelve in the morning is supposed to be water and fruit. That's what you supposed to eat in the morning. It makes sense. I'm gonna start that, Yeah, starting water and fruit every morning, and then betwenk twelve and three, you have eat a little something and then you can eat a little something around five and then the rest

of the night you're hungry. You gotta have apples, you know, pineapples, because the world has set us up to make us think they're supposed to have all these other medications. But pineapples, strawberries, cherries is your medicine for life, the medicine wild. Pineapples do something I can't remember. Pineapples do something for your eyes and all these all these fruits do something to keep you healthy. Same thing for women too, for sure. Yeah,

get yes, yes, yes, yes. It's so important that everybody. This is what we talked about. We just not talking about men. Everybody should get their checkups to be on this planet a long time. Yeah, I saw that somebody was just saying on YouTube that like, if a woman has a bad diet, it's hard for her situation to be the best. The vagina smelling, yeah, yes, it could smell, or you can it may not be that moist and see,

because that's the that's the terrible. That's also a bad thing when you know what good pussy is true, see, because you can love the woman, but she probably can't. We just had this. Remember we were just talking about

this when we're recording the show earlier. Would you rather be with because we do a radio show every day up question, So the question is, would you rather be with someone who you love, who everything, but the sex is just whatever is and that's something, or would you rather be with the person who's toxic patty pain in

the ass, but the sex is crazy? You know, it's crazy that happiness is because you're in the moment at that time, in the moment, like I like this person even though she can't fuck it because I just got out of that right situation. This is a human mind. Now you're with this girl. Oh bitch, job me fucking crazy, but you fuck me like a guy. Right, But I like this girl because too sure. I said it best. You're never gonna find everything you want in one person.

M if you find that person, marry them. If you could fout out to my wife, Yeah, if you could find if you can find that person that got everything you want, just you wrap it up. I feel you. You one I mean that you want me. It's the petty thing that holding you back. Yeah, let me tell you with me. I'm sixty two. Ride this ship out. It's too late for me to go through bullshit in my life. That's fair. You got a lot of Yeah, I hope I get thirty more summers out of this

big You might get thirty or forty. I get thirty. Yeah, you know, I hope I can get thirty thirty more summers. That'll put me at what was the Madonna tour life? Did you have a relationship with her where you guys? No? No, it's just I know they love Beyonce and everybody I've seen ain't nobody cold the Madonna Really, ain't nobody cold Madonna Live, Live Live. Ain't nobody colder Madonna? Beyonce, Oh, there's no doubt about it. And I love Beyonce, and I know people going to hit hit me over there.

I'm rolling up the scene. Don't get me, but remember, lady, before you'll start tripping. Before they edited this, I want to share something with you. Every generation has their superstar. Back when I was growing up, we hit Michael Jordan. You guys got Lebron right back in my day, it was Tupac and Biggie. Now y'all got Drake and right, right,

everybody has a generation and we shouldn't really compare. And one I'm gonna apologize for even compare the Madonna to Beyonce because that was a different, different, different area and we shouldn't do that. They should never prepare Michael Jordan to Lebron I think, especially with sports. I agree, especially with sports, everybody had their eraror and that's what they should talk about. You should have who's the best now

during the era, that motherfucker was the man. Because when I get old and grow up, ain't nobody gonna tell me Kendrick better than and nobody's gonna better than Kendrick, Right, So this is what it is, right, and every generation is gonna have they got right, we had going. You guys got Kevin Hart, right, you know what I'm saying in a sense. But there's more comics now. There's more comics now than it was when I was growing up back. But I love Kevin Hart. Yeah, when I was growing

we had like non comedians. Right now it's like Dan, there's a million, there's a million motherfuckers out there now. How do you feel about Kevin Hart James. I love Kevin Hart. I like did you like his stand up he dropped during the Pandemic? Is that the one he did in the Liberal? Yeah? It wasn't great. That it was good, but it was it was missing something. I love her. I like his work ethic. But I'm gonna tell you what, right like eight nine, he's a beast.

Let me tell you work ethic is inspired. Let me tell you what I really like that nigga don't chase commercials. Thank you chase nigga heat the man he almost make me. Won't gonna get them up a card let me. But he's I said, man, all the comedians I've seen in the world, he really got this commercial ship. And he's just very likable. He's very like. We had a conversation

off the air kind of about a different comedian. I don't know, we won't say his name, but like somebody who's Kevin Heart's way better than this guy that's standing great at standing. I think he's a little overrated, but I think he's great. He's good. But but there's another comedian who's much smaller, right, maybe from the same city, who is great at being like likable, I guess as opposed to you know what I mean? So I think

Kevin Hart checks all the boxes. Yes, yes, at a high level, which is why he's probably the big Like when you compare him to Eddie Murphy, that's fair because Kevin Hart's doing arenas you know what I mean? Yes, Yes, he's the I think he's Is it safe to say he's the biggest comedian? Yeah, he's the most tickets. Yeah, he's sold the most tickets. Yeah, no one's selling more tickets than him, right, And and in life Joe Coy is on the way though. Yeah. And in life i'd

say to people, life's not fair. Used to it. I think I'm the best motherfucker standup comedian that never touched the mic. Right. A lot of people don't know me, but once you see me, it's different. Once you see me. I love that feeling. Why haven't you done the online special to where people can go and watch drop on YouTube, like a sixty minute just heater, because I think it do great. Man, I've never thought about that, because I do think that you are kind of like the underground rapper, right,

you gotta catch TK when he's in your city. You to see him live, then you'll get it. But then if I go tell like if I go tell J Man, I just saw this motherfucker t K Kirkland. I feel like I should be able to go on your YouTube channel to see an hour. Yeah, I want to. I think that's something I gotta do. I think I'm gonna do more as a legacy thing too. Yeah, because they're going to do more on you. Because I think we cut my special up and put it on YouTube. You

got to do the whole joint. Yeah, promoted do the whole roll out for it, Joe Rogan doing like just like that. But it's all you're the one controlling it. Yeah, matter fact, I'm gonna put it together. I'm gonna put a sponsored by you guys. You do it, even though I put up the money. You gotta do it. Gonna put up no money. I'll put up the money. It'll do great, dude. Yeah, I'll call my team and put

something together. You should do that every two years because, like you said, if you got thirty more summers in forty years, the way we go back and watch because I got three specials out now, but you should have way more. Should have more because you're fucking tk Kirk. Yeah, absolute, let me do that, and I think we need your comedy in today's climate. We get the interview clips, we get that, Yes, that shit's great, but we want to

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You guys are nowhere around. Watch it says, I go through life and I see certain people who blew up, the artists who blew up. But then when they hit a coas sign, it took them to a whole level. Right, And when doctor d Eminem signed fifty, it was different. It was different than when fifty try to make it before he didn't have no co sign Yeah, for sure, that's pretty Doctor Drake co signed Kendrick thingsjdged co signer. You need a co sign and sometime to say this

motherfucker's official. I think I think everybody knows you're official. I think that you're so brilliant as a stand up comedian. Yes that I feel like you got to put that. You gotta you gotta show the world that because at the end of the day, like you said, right, there's people in London, there's people, there's people in markets you're not going to go to, yes, that want to see your stuff, your ship, but believe that they do that they have seen it. I get. I just mean in

terms of like, no, we're gonna do it. You talk about it, You're want to put this ship together. You know, I told you off the air what I want to do. I want to do the thing with the the podcast thing, and then we'll get fred Freddy Gibson, get you on, Joe Rogan. Yeah, I would love that. Put on chat with Freddy. He'll make it happen because he's been on there twice. Yeah, I didn't know Joe follows me, he's a fucking comedian. No. Once I do that, this game is over when I do. Joe Rogan, listen to me.

We said it here. T. K. Kirkin is a rock star. I agree, I promise you, I agree. I already see you as a rock star man. You are a rock star man, because it's just the simple fact of your longevity, just as that right there. I'm truly like it's sound thirty thirty eight years in the game and stay relevant the entire the whole time. And see I seen comedians go up and down. Right, I've been straight across the whole time. There was never no dips, straight across, and

I don't. One of my friends said it best. He said, you never wear your wealth. You know, some people just overdo it. Of course they you said you never. Like one day I was had a little outfit on with Louis Batons and it looked nice. But I really don't care. Like I wear white Tea's on purpose because I travel so much. I don't like iron and shit in My shirt's got to come out the plastic bag. My underwear every day gotta be brand new. Like some people buy a lot of jewelry, I buy a lot of underwear.

I buy a lot of white teas. I like to smell good. I like they'll get my massages, my facials and shit like I invest in me right now. And what I teach people too about investing, See investing is they got you thinking that's what you should do. And that's to me the small man, because you want to be rich. So let's take basketball players, know fuckers, who's really rich? And when you think about the Bernie Madoffs, how they ripped you off. See a huge financial firm.

Know you got eighty million, they'll come to you. They'll come to you. Yeah, I want to invest your money to take three to five percent of your money that whatever happens they lose it, they still get their percent, they still get in. But you on lost. But you made it. You invested in you. That's why you have eighty while you have that money. Yeah, here's my point. If you got that money, why do you need more? See, because your mindset is greed. You take the chance to

lose it. But you have invested in you your whole life, and you have enough to You got enough to live off the rest of your life still being greedy. So here's the philosophy, the richer you are, the lower your means. M hmm. But see people who have low means live beyond their means. But in your mindset, See, you don't care how big your house. I don't care how many rooms you have. The mattress is still gonna be the same size. Yeah, that's real. That's the real shit right there.

And also, if you have real wealth or you are are doing well, what do you try to like? You don't have to. I feel like people who out outwardly try to they're doing that for everyone else. They're doing that to try. You have to be right because nobody cares right. I got everything right. But it's like you're not gonna wear like I feel like, you know, a lot of that has to do with just like today's culture. I mean that's always been the case. People were in gold,

people were in Joelry. But in terms of just like it's like, I don't got to prove nothing to you. I'm married, I got my money's in the bank. You want me to want me to wear some designers so you could so I could feel good around strangers or people. Don't you to do is nice vacations? Yeah? That kind of ship is where you spend money. That's where you spend money. You want to be in a nice experience room. You want to enjoy your champagne or whatever you do.

Then you come back home when you go back into the real world, but you ain't gott it around in the roads. Woe, you ain't gotta drive around. That's the way you could ask him. I barely just about it, like so listen, I'm always paid off cars, live way below my means. Yes, I just bought my first house with my wife. I had bought a house in Vegas, but which bought a house last year for like a one point five million in burbing But I just finally bought a nice car because for tax purposes see six

thousand pounds heavy. People don't understand that. So I was like, all right, when you guess, but I guess I'm either gonna write a check to the I R S I'm gonna buy this. That's so I tell people when they talk about how Floyd and all them spend so much money, I said, they do it not because they want to. If they don't buy ship, the governor gonna take it, they would rather write the check and buy ten escallegs. Yep. Then give all that money to the government and get

nothing to return. Yeah. So true, And so that's what you that's what you have to do. Do you do that every year, like around October November. I put it like this, I live underneath my means. I mean in terms of like, when you know that tax bill is gonna hit, does your CPA give you the head? No? What I do, I'm smarter than all of them. What I do with me is I write everything to fuck off everything, and I put people up on games too. See. I donate a lot of clothes to good Will, and

you know, you get those forms. You can put your own numbers in there. I donate to good Will about two hundred times the year, oh wow. And each time you get a form, time you get a form. So by the end of the year, I've given over two hundred thousand dollars to good Will. Oh ship, And that's a tax right off. That's fucking barred. My grandma put me off on that long time giving clothes to my friends. Yeah, no, good Will because they give you a receipt. Yeah, they

just said it like five minutes. You get it. I get so many clothes to my friends. Fuck that. Take it to the good will and you get your receipt, You fill out your stuff, you stack them all year and then and send it to your tax I'm on top of that. And that's though it's not illegal. No, you're donating. I love that. That's smart making no rock. Hey, you guys can't get no more free clothes. Yeah, so my thing. Sorry, I'm glad that we have built this relationship.

But like I said, and we're hearing, and there we're gonna. I want to bring my podcast over to you. We got to. I want to change. I want to change. I don't get me wrong. I own my own ship and what I like now as we move forward over the next ten to fifteen years, I want to change the game a little bit because I don't really think anybody can hustle me. And I've been cruising for two years because the way I move, I move organically, right,

you gotta move organically. I don't like forcing nothing. When I came in to day, I felt the energy. I think you're the right person to do what we gotta do. Then you introduced me to Freddy, not knowing that inspired me because I see that Nigga and I never knew that niggas a like that means so much to when people walk up and say, YO, give you the truth and I'm like, wow, that's fuck. I'm more shocked that. I'm more shocked about them knowing me than vice versa.

Let me ask you this. We were talking off the air and I was like, Yo, your podcast is so great, but you should do it in video form. And you're like, well, I'm never in the same place I'm saying. So it's a little hard, yes, it is to pull that off. Now, there's two things. One, there is a podcast that's very successful. I think Tim Dillon's doing about two hundred and fifty grand a month on his ship, and he'll bring his producer on the road with him and sometimes they'll shoot

in a hotel room. That's that's one thing. But two, I think if you took three to six months off from the road and invested in the podcast, you might make five or six times more than you can make on the road. It's not about money to me, Okay, it's fair. I was gonna say it's it's it's a matter of you're you're still very passionate and in love with being on stage, and touching the people. Yes, and it's not about money to me, it never has been,

but eventually that could be the that's got it. I think you've developed that out because maybe maybe you hit sixty eight sixty nine and you're like, you know what, man, I need to know. What we're gonna do is we're gonna do what we talked about, right, and we're gonna let the life deal the cards. That's fair and that's

the way you got to do instead of planning. We see where this takes us, right, that's fair, and then we start doing certain things and maybe if I get the energy, maybe I come here once a month to do something with you guys. Right, we tape it to get kacter podcasts because I don't just do celebrities, right, I do people walking down the street. I think that's where I also think that that's so Theovonne do you know theovan is and the sounds familiar. So he's a comedian.

He's got a hilarious podcast, but he'll interview celebrities, yes, then other times he'll have like just a random a female, a plumber or something like that. Yeah, I got to have a more tit Like he literally has had a mortician on the on the podcast, and it's just hilarious because it's like a comedian talking to somebody, dude that is a mortician in Nashville. And that's what I got

is fine. One I talked to this the average person, like if you just like found like a fucking retired prostitute, yes, or some shit like that, right right. I deal with all those type of things. And that's what I like and the reason why I did that because I really hate asking for you. I always never wanted to be the dude to ask another celebrity to do something right

because there's too many letdowns. That's true. Oh I'm gonna be there eleven then the day before they got to cancel, that's true, or something comes up, right, And I hate asking motherfuckers. I've always been that dude and asked nobody for shit. I've just always been that guy. I go out there and get it. And like I said when we were talking earlier about the guy said about the twenty five thousand, and I'll tell this to any man, say, ain't nothing expensive. You just gotta work hard one hundred

and you're not the same. You're feeling broke. Yeah, ain't nothing experience. You just got work hard. If I tell you have twenty five thousand in your account before you start fucking nick, you gotta go get it, get it and see if you got that ambition, you got it, you got to go get it. And that's what. That's what. And I always tell men too, if you really love the girl that you want, watch this down. I said, really love her? I said, you really think you love her?

I said, look at your girl right now, look at her and ast your one for ten thousand dollars. I said, you know why you ain't looking at it because you know she ain't got it. So my philosophy is, if I can't use you, you're useless fun I'm gonna have you around for just to look at all motherfucker that. Now here's the here's the flip side. If I can't depend on you, if shit hits the fan, right, and here's the flip side, I don't need the money. I was gonna make sure you got it right, just like

you said. I mean shit, I gotta I got arrested and I had to call my girl to pull together a serious amount of money. And she did it, and she did it, showed up cash ready to go. That's what the fun I mean, that's so important. You don't want to live that kind of life. Whatever. It was a situation that was unforeseen, and yeah, I got out, you know. Yeah, And that's a powerful word, what you said.

It's a thing called unforeseen occurrences and that and you got to account for that when you choose your partner, you choose. And that's what I want men and women to think about when they meet, because they don't think that way. And that's my newt moment. I'm starting to write my book. That's what I'm working on and it'll be out probably a year. Maybe it's called The Manual. Oh I love it. I was gonna say, should called tk's Life Rules the Man. It's called the Manual like that, Yes,

the Man. It's gonna be the new Bible. And I'm putting everything in like things we're talking. Yeah, I mean for people who don't know the last interview. Pretty much, if you're fucking girl and you don't got twenty five grand, what happens if she gets pregnant? Unforeseen? Nobody thinks about that set then you don't even got the fucking money to take care of that. Fuck you ain't got the fucking money. Or I hear niggas say, oh, they want

her to get rid of the baby. But when you put your penis gentleman and a woman and you nutting her, that's on you, nigg What the fuck you think was gonna happen? Yeah, you feel you go, why that fucking Plan B? Or do you get the plan B? I had sex with a woman nutting in there, and I went right to the store and got that we was eating dinner, opened the package and I slid that motherfucker over and you know, and I had a little drinking and I helped them with the drink. Are you stay

here too? And she said, I'm not gonna take another Plan B, and I stopped sucking her. Okay, well that was the last time I fucked that's good to know. Yeah, that's the last time I fucked her. But those things are so important, and I'm glad that we covered all the things, from the sexual assault thing to understanding who

you should date as you move forward. And if you listen to what we just said, ladies and gentlemen, it'll help you choose your part instead of just being with someone, because that's being I got a man, I got a woman that you. You gotta balance it out. Yeah, there's a lot of people who sell value is very dependent on being in a relationship for some reason. I know a lot of people like a lot of people. Yes, that way, they have to have to be in a relationship.

You gotta get a hobby. You gotta love yourself alttle much. You gotta go bowl and gotta go hike, and you gotta have these things about you that aren't identifiable with your association to it. Ye, person, you gotta learn how to live by yourself. Everybody should live by themselves first before they get into moving in with a woman. I think if I, if I got married, that woman will have to live in her own house after You're not another room, my whole other house. You love life now

having your own hair, bitch, I marry you. You got signed the prenup and you got to get your own crib. You got to have your own home, and I got mine. Now you got the keys, You come over theever you want. Yeah, but I want to be up under your ass twenty four to seven. Sometimes I just want to be my myself, smoking my little cigar and not doing a motherfucker thing. I love it because sometimes you might talk to motherfucking facts, and sometimes I may not want to fucking talk. You know,

explain you're on the phone with your mother. She a major man. I'm hearing y'all. I ain't got that, nigga, I ain't got time this shit. I love it. Well, listen, TK, I appreciate your time. That's always facts, both you, gentlemen. I see how you've grown to sit here and to see that because I tell people also, every year your life should get better. Of course, your life's not getting better. Every year. Reevaluate you do. You're doing something wrong. I

appreciate you. Man, make your pain. Yes, Champagne, Yes, sir, an hour a day. You're gonna walk up and down the street. I got your word. I got one hundred. When I come back in the year, he's the same. He's gonna look. I'm gonna look different. Watch remember you go see the diabetes and the wake your clothes off. You want your woman to be looking at you looking sexy. See if you want to do it for yourself. You married, So I'm gonna give you game. Watch this. I am sexy.

I'm gonna give you some game. You feel sexy. I want you. I want you to buy some nice pajamas, okay, and some house shoes and will rolled around the house. Watch this, nigga. May sound crazy, but you're gonna look like a king when you open the door and somebody else door. You presented extremely well instead of coming to the door with slides on, socks and shorts and a

T shirt something. How come to work? Everything you do is your presentation, right, and you want to that class and reason why I'm sharing me on the air because now when people see you in a nice pair of jamas, you maybe have a glass of water in your hand, some fake glasses, you know, put it together. You're getting lined up. You're looking good, right, trust me. So get a nice robe, some nice house shoes. Yeah, come out here. Keep you keep your line up, take care of yourself. Where,

get your pajama game together, get your roll together. Give me an example of how that's just we are just tearing down James. I'm like, but let me give you the game to prove my point. When Biggie was a bit puffy, Biggie was just a regular nigga, and Puffy's girl at the time told Puffy to put that nigga in some flying ship. And when he started performing with the Hats, nobody was rocking till Biggie and he became like a same thing with Ross. I know females who

are like sexually obsessed with Rick Ross. Yep, he's a overweight man, very but it's his presentation, his attitude. There's girls who are fucking I know one girl in particular who's like number one in her spank bank is Rick Ross, and I don't get it. Wow, yep, I see it, but he does have a certain when he puts suits on, the nigga looks smooth and the mother the same thing with the rod Man. You gotta go. You gotta wear that belly with pride. You got belly. Yes, what you mean?

You'll be talking about sweater coming come in here with a button up shirt, wide open wife, beater, show it show it up, show it different. But hell, hell, I want you to be here every time I come. I wonder you like your tea? Nona, be all right? You know the real thing though I do I should go a doctor. Though when I come back in the year, you've been been to doctor three times three. I guess here's what I want you to do, and we're gonna We're gonna go. Two things I want you to do.

There's a thing called life line screening. Okay, you heard of it. Lifeline screening is a diagnolysis of a doctor. When you go in, they put these different things on you, right, and they can tell you if you live before a stroke hard at time. They see how the blood is going through your body and they sitting that in the mail and you take that to your doctor. Because doctors only ask you what is hurting you, right, they don't

go inside check all that. That's what you want. You want to go lifeline screening, right, and I guarantee you they're gonna save your life because you ain't been to the doctor in ten years. I guarantee. We we gotta get James to the doctor. We gotta go