#266 - China Mac

I'm saying. Twitch, Right, that's the that's the other channel. Okay, that's the channel where you Twitter because you were also doing like, uh, weren't you also doing like interviews and yeah, yeah, yeah I'm doing it now. That's the night Talk Okay, right, yeah, but but hold on. Congratulations to you though, well, thank you man. You know what I mean. I've been seeing you, No, I've been seeing you leveling up, like you know what I'm saying, Like, congratulations to you and your new club, Yeah,

eleven new studio. This is probably the last interview anyone will watching this student China mag makes makes the exit. You feel me, It's only right, But yeah, dude, it's been dope to see, dude, because I always felt like that was one thing when people would watch you on Vlad. You know, I feel like your your personality would shine through and people were so into you. I mean, you also are an amazing rapper, but I feel like people just kind of they took a liking to like just

who you are as a dude. You know what I'm saying. So for you to be able to go around and like tour different areas and eat the food and like, dude, it's better than any of the fucking food shows that no. I mean, like you don't like food shows on that shit, but your shit is lit. It's a little different. I put a little spin on it, you know what I like?

How would like? Okay, obviously you're always going to try to evolve and improve the show, But at what point in time do you feel like you got to a place where the show felt like fully like, oh no, this is like things are different now. I started going to the hoods and food like everybody does, like you know, go to the popping restaurants. Oh look, this restaurant is so cool. But like when I started going into people houses and they cooking out the house and selling meals

out there like that. I was like, Okay, I'm on to something. Yeah, I mean, like because people ain't gonna do that. People ain't gonna go into the middle of watts and like, you know what I mean, go to a house and eat waffles with cereal on it, or going stocked in in the middle of nowhere and they cooking and crabs and stuff. I was stocked in. Stockton's a pretty active place. Yeah, Stockton is like, yeah, it's

definitely is active, you know what I mean. I had to be very it was kind of quiet, but it's one of those quiet that you know, is like is it get crazy? You know what I'm saying. So for where have you gone so far? Like like in terms of just like where's the craziest place you've gone or the most random place? Stockton's kind of random. Shot to Stockton, Yeah, Stockton. Shout out to Stockton. I went to Texas, Uh, Houston, Dallas, or I mean I'm going to Houston. Shout out to Accua.

I'm about to go with them. I'm about to go accuate to Houston. But no, I went to some I don't even remember the name of the town. Bro It was just like some random spot that I did a I did a I did a challenge like a stake challenge there or something. Oh so it was like a restaurant where they had like a famous Yes, I pulled up over there and then like, you know, but I've been to Cambridge, Boston. I've been to a bunch of places. Bro, I'd be forgeting, But what's been the worst food you've

eatn on on Mackie. Wow? Wow, to be honest, Filipino food? Bro, really was that in Stockton? No? That was right here. Kazumi brought me to the spot. Her she's a she's a she's a professional. Yeah she is, like I mean, I mean she may or may not have popped up on a friend of mine's Reddit feet not mine, Yeah right yo, But yeah, she brought me to like eat some Filipino food, like some traditional not traditional. Did you do the baby duck eggs? Did that? Oh? Yeah that's

what That's what? Yeah, that ship is fucked. Shout out to my philip I mean everyone around me in my life is Filipino? Is it? Are they? My manager's Filipino, my producer for my radio shows Filipino. Most of my fight I got so many Filipina shout out to the Filippino that like, yeah, it's just you know what I mean, it's like a half yeah, half developed baby d You see some of the egg, but then you see some

of the it's like halfway developed. It was when you ate that, you know, it was it was gross, It was it was just it was just yeah, it wasn't It wasn't my thing, Yo, what do you think about? Like what like somebody who I feel like you're a great representative of your culture and making sure whenever there's any sort of just like bullshit going on, whether it's racism or just shit going on in the news, Like

let me ask you this. On TikTok, at least five or six times a day, I get a swipe and I see a little Asian lady eating some wild, ill shit. Like I will say, your people have the highest tolerance of just eating shit. Yeah, is that a safe assumption? They eat some crazy stuff. But that's like like the baby duck thing is just crazy. Baby duck is crazy.

But then I also have seen some stuff like it was like a snail of something and she's smacking and then like the only thing I've had that's Filipino is the little egg rolls. What are they called? The forty's got a he's part owner of a company that does them. But they're like they're just like egg rolls. That's all the Filipino food. Yeah. I can't funk with the half developed embryo. Yeah. And then like you know, I mean, yeah, I can't a lot of that food. I'll try it,

you know, just for the sake of trying. I'm the sake of content, yeah, And for the sake of content, you know, I mean, I would try it anyway, even without the content, just to say, you know, because it's culture and you know what I'm saying. But I'm not really you know, what is your Okay, how long have you been in LA full time? It's been about a year. I've been out here for like I moved out here like five months ago. Okay, so you've been out here

five months. Give me your favorite restaurant in LA that you've had that reminds you, because I feel like New York has some of the best restaurants. I think specifically some of the best Asian food that I've ever had is in New York City. You have you found a place here that reminds you of some food back home, or that it's just kind of like your go to. Yet it's different. The Chinese. The Asian food here is different. And I missed New York food. I ain't gonna lie

I miss New York food, but the Asian food. Let's talk about the Asian food. The Asian food is different than New York. First of all, y'all in l A don't have the staple like Chinese hood spot. I don't. I ain't see it, like maybe they got them, but for sure, I probably just ain't going the right neighborhood. But you know, in New York, every block you got a staple Chinese hood spot. You know what I'm saying, Chicken wings, fried rice with the duck sauce. You know

what I'm saying. Out here? I don't you know what I mean. I don't think y'all, they don't really do that out here like that. I missed that, you know what I mean? Uhh? They have better like hot pot and like real Chinese, like Chinese food, Chinese food in terms of like out here out here they have better like like real Chinese food, but like corner. You know, it's funny because we were in Knarsi with Dusty Locane. Shout out the Dusty Man, and he freed Dusty. He did.

He took us straight to the Chinese spot, and I think I had like did you have the chicken wings for They chopped up the chicken wings and then it was with the fried ice. Yeah, duck sauce. That's exactly that's like when you said that, I was, that's literally what I A little soy sauce on the rice, soy sauce for the rice, duck sauce on the no duck sauce on the rice. You know what I'm saying. Soy sauce on the chicken and rice. O. God. Yeah, it

was a great spot. It was like it looked like it's a place that like they don't do that out here. Yeah yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah, I mean I'm sure somewhere, but I mean yeah, but like you know, so I know, I know the area you're staying a lot of stuff over there is like nice. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, they got they got they got nice stuff. But I'll be traveling all around throughout l A, but I just don't see that. But then you know, they got better Asian food.

When it comes to like real Asian food, like you know what I'm saying, hot pot and stuff like that. I feel like the food is there's more Asian people here. You know what I fell in love with in l A is uh fun shout out to the Oh my god, you gotta you gotta go to rn OC to get the fuck. There's a spot there. Did you go to the place that's in the like kind of like in that mall there's like a mall of just food or yeahs yes, yeah spot, yeah, yeah, Oh my god, what

the fun here is amazing? Bro, the fun in New York. I would never eat the fia and the and the ramen. Man, the ramen is crazy. Come on, at least got great food. I ate some spicy. I did a spicy ramen challenge yesterday. Fucked my ship. I was shipping peppers. No ship, that's right. Uh well, hey, I gotta say, man, I'm glad you're here because I mean you obviously there was a what we're talking about, Man, there was a huge tragedy that happened in my right park. Yo, Bro, I was there.

I know. That's why I said I'm glad you were here physically because you you were there. I was shaking. I was shaking, bro that. I mean when I say I was there, I wasn't there, Like it didn't happen like right there in front of me. But I was eating at a restaurant like right next to that ballroom on Garvy and whatever, right, so whatever ballroom, I didn't even know it was a ballroom. I was eating at the restaurant right there. We we got out of that

restaurant at like ten fifteen, ten fifteen. We paid everything. I walked out the door at like ten fifteen. We got to by ten fifteen, ten eighteen. I got to my car. The shots started going off at like ten twenty twenty five. That's when the first police report went on, you know what I'm saying. And I was out there and I didn't know. I was driving to another party. I was driving to a party. And then when we got to the party, the girl I was with was like, Yo,

do you see this? We were just there, we were just here. We just left it. And I was like what. I went in the party for like maybe ten minutes, and she was so freaked out that she wanted to leave right and she was, so we left. We got back. I went home, and I'm just like, damn minutes, like minutes, and you know what I'm saying, Like, I felt like I escaped because I didn't know it was in the ballroom, so at the time, I thought he was just like shooting in the street. So I felt like I escaped that.

But then I also know, if that's going on, you're gonna go up in there and try to No. I mean, if it's inside, I'm not gonna run in there, But if he's in the street shooting, I'm gonna react, bro like, like you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm gonna react my life, and I'm not gonna allow anybody to just like fucking do whatever. Like I'm gonna be on the news too. I'm gonna be on the news right along with him. But if it's like inside somewhere, I'm not

running up there and like doing all that. But if it's in the vicinity, like say I'm in Walmart and somebody is doing that, and you know what I'm saying, I have the you know, the capabilities of reacting. I'm gonna react like because I don't know if you're gonna turn around and shoot me or if you're gonna shoot a kid or whatever. So you know, I felt like I escaped that bro. I ain't gonna lie and God

wrest God, God bless those people. Man. And then there was another one yesterday in San Francisco, right in the Bay Area. There was another one. Another fucking Chinese dude shoot up a bunch of Chinese dude. I don't know what the hell is going on. I don't know what this is, but it sounds fishy to me, man, it sounds interest interesting. It's like it's like a sick coincidence. Because no, no, the story is like the one in Minor Ray Paul. He the story is do you know,

are you familiar with it? I'm not sure, Like I saw the video of the guy getting taken down and then obviously the guy killed himself in the white van in Torrance, but I'm not sure, Like I don't know anything. He went from Monterey, Paul, he shot that up, he got in this call, he left, he drove to Ala Hambra, another heavily Asian, another heavily Asian community, and he went

into another spot. So what I've read was that he went to the first spot because his ex girlfriend or whatever was in the party and he wasn't invited to some some crazy stuff like that, right, and then he shot it up. Then he left and he went to Ala Hambra to shoot up another spot. But that doesn't make sense to me, because like, if you wasn't invited to one party and you shot it up, why you going to another spot You wasn't invited there either, Like

what the hell? They're also very far apart, right, they're also very fall apart. So now he goes in there, but he get he get wrestles one of the young people that was at the door, wrestles him for the gun. You see it's on video. He's taking the gun from him and taking the gun. The guys crazy shout out to that guy, yeah, shout out to him whoever he is. And he tries to like fight. He tried to wrestle the gun out of him. He had an opportunity to shoot the man too. I would have I would have

smoked the dude. You would have smoked him if i'd have took the gun from him. And he's still trying. I'm getting you in the leg. At least I gotta put you down for that, right, Like better than me. He's better than the dude was trying to picked up a water bottle and yeah, that shit's crazy, bro. So you were like, fuck dude, like you said, if you like, what if you were like sitting there and you saw a guy walking in with that gun, you'd be like what the fuck? Like you don't know how you're going

to react in that situation, bro. I mean, I know how IMO react. You know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna say how I'MO react, but I would react with like, nah, that shit fucked up, bro. That's why. That's why, you know what I'm saying. I went on my I went on my YouTube channel and I made a video immediately, and you know, people were saying, oh, you're trying to profit or like get clout over that incident. But no, absolutely not. That's not what the fuck I was trying

to do. What I was trying to do is make a video and say, hey, everybody whoever has the ability to get your gun license, go get that motherfucker. Like you know what I'm saying, everybody should have their gun license if you can have it. You know what I'm saying, Only if your sound make it a lot harder. But but you can still make it happen. But they've made it easier since the pandemic. Yeah, you can still make

it happen. So that's all I'm saying. Like, I went on my YouTube channel to tell people, yo, go get your gun license because you never know what now, Like the world is so crazy. You could be walking in Walmart somewhere shopping with your kids and here come this crazy motherfucker shooting shit up. You know what I'm saying. And you know you got to protect yourself from protect your family by all means. So I went on my channel and tell my people, go get your shit. Yeah,

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rap career. Yeah. I spoke with Ad about this a few weeks ago, and he was essentially saying, like, man, this personality shit, I've made like ten times more than I've ever made rap. Are you in that same boat? I'm super in that boat. Yeah I was in that boat before him, but yeah, yeah, but definitely. Yeah. I found that's why I started doing the mac eats, and that's why I started. That's why I fully kind of just went that lane because it just takes too much

as a rap artist. You gotta put too much money. You gotta do You got to invest all of the all of that into it, and you're not sure if you're gonna you know what I'm saying, you're gonna get any money back, and then you might not get any money back for a few years. Also, and if you do, then you have to sign a deal. I mean, you probably gotta sign a deal. And everybody's got their hands in your pocket, you know what I'm saying. Versus this

this you don't really need to do ship. You just try to get a computer and and you know I look at him, it's like I feel like guys like you, guys like ad who like have like like fans. You guys are fucking successful artists independently, but like that music almost was like a an investment into getting people interested into who you are, which which makes it able, which makes you able to go on flat and make you able to go it and now be your own you know.

So it's just growing. It's just the growth and just being able to re in yourself you. For me, I think that's like as you know, that's that's a trait that is necessary for survival in this game but any in life. In life, Yeah, you got to be able to reinvent yourself. I'm curious you going VLAT often? Would you say a few times a year? Yeah? I haven't been on vlad for a minute. But were you ever a part of his like paying regular guest program? Yeah? So you would get a bag for each interview? Yeah,

I always get a bag over there. Nice. Yeah, shout out the lad man. Yeah, shout out of the lad Man. I don't know, I mean that's like if it works, right, I mean, because I think a lot of people probably give him like a bad rap but to me, it's like, I don't know many other platforms that like monetarily cut you in on. But he said that since he started

doing that, his ship exploded even more. He made even more money because if it's working right, you know, like with Boozy, Right, Yeah, every Boozy interview like goes crazy. Come on and he clips that shit a million times, clips it. He's the He's he started that. He's the clip god. He's the cliff God. Shout out to, Shout out to here's the reason why we clip him and Joe Rogan the reason we clip our ship. Right, it makes sense. I think who did it first? Lad, Joe?

I think Vlad did for sure. No, I think Vlad did that for sure. Yeah, Vlad started doing he everybody was like at first when I saw that, I was I didn't understand, like I mean, but you know, once I started looking at the numbers your stuff, I mean, from my for your interviews, for my interviews, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, he's the all new way. Yeah. Shout out to Lav for that. Man. So when you're like, okay, so what is your I'm curious just from like being

on this side of things. When you hit the road, you decide to do with mac eats, right, Yeah, what does your team look like? How many people are hitting the road with you? How many cameramen do you got? Like? What is your like setup? Like? What is your kind of like your school? It depends where I'm going, you know what I mean, It depends where I'm going. But usually, bro, I'll go with my cameraman and I go with myself from maybe one homie and you know what I'm saying

and whatever else. We need one camera every time, one camera every time. That's what I do. One came great, getting some great ship. Any you guys would ever fly drones? I mean, uh we have, Yeah, we have a few episodes. Yeah. Sure. What it's like for you is the goal to eventual? Because I think YouTube is the new TVs when people are like, oh, I'm making it on TV. How to give a fuck? Right, Yeah, nobody cares about Nobody cares about radio. Yeah respectfully as someone who's on the radio

in eighteen cities, no one gives a fuck. But for you, what is like the Because we've seen Action Bronson do this kind of first right with fun that's delicious, and he's turned that into restaurants and food trucks and books and all that, Like for you, what do you want to take mac eats in terms of like you know, like how do you want to scale this thing? Man? I mean all that, Like I'm gonna do a restaurant, you know what I'm saying. Do some sauces, you know

what I mean. Sauces will go crazy sauces, you know what I mean, do different stuff like you know, I mean, this guy's the limit, honestly, Like you know, I don't know, I might, I might do whatever. But have you had any offers to do any TV stuff yet? With TV stuff? Yeah, Like I'm sure I have. Yeah, yeah, but I just

you know, turn it down. Yeah, I'm not really you know what I'm saying, Like, like you said, the TV stuff is like you know, were making money on this, Like if it's not if it's not going to be like a super big situation or if it's not going to be a super big bag, then why would I you know what I mean, Like I think I'm waiting for the best, for the right thing to come along. Yeah.

I feel like for you, it would make sense if it was like a prestigious like Netflix situation, right, like something like that because even if something that's really gonna put me, it'll raise your profile and it'll raise your funds in every other capacity, you know what I mean? Right? So, Okay, so you just put up a video today about was it today about Matt Hoffa? Yeah, well I saw so, I don't really all I saw was I think last week he had posted your guys's dms? Was that the case?

I mean? And then he pretty much was like, hey, guys, if I don't hit you back, you know whatever, whatever, But he happened to use your DMS as an example, right, and then I mean there was more to it, But I mean, it's all over the internet. I don't want to keep on talking about him and beating a dead horse, right, but I will say this, Well, you're posted a video today. No, it was just yes, wait, it was yesterday. Okay, I

posted a video, but he me and him went live. Okay, so after that live, I'm like, you know what I'm saying. I don't want to keep on going on a whole tour about it, but I will say this. I will say this. I was fooled. You know what I mean? Okay, you got it. I was fooled. I didn't know that he was acting this whole time. I didn't know that he had a costume on because that's basically what he said on the live because I was like, oh, you're

a street dude, you know what I'm saying. And he was I was like, Yo, street dudes ain't supposed to have uh, somebody with somebody on the show talking about an active murder case. You know what I'm saying. So no street dude would do that. And he was like, I'm not a street dude. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

And so when I met him, I met him a while ago, you know what I mean, And I was just under the assumption that we came from the same cloth and came from the same like mora rules and and you know what I'm saying, the principles, like you know what I'm saying. So now now he showed himself yesterday on the live, he said, that's not what he's not from that and that's not what he like, that's not he he he that's not what it is. But when I first met him, that's what it was. That's

what he said. He was, So, you know, my bad, I didn't know that you that he had a costume on, and a lot of people. See, you know what it is. People do things and they carry certain they carry certain mora rules and principles when it's convenient for them, you understand what I'm saying. And now since it's not really that convenient, they just take it off and they just you know, throw call it. And also, hey, we got to stop the interview real quick to tell you about

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to the interview. I'd like to point out this why a sl thing has really shown that people aren't keeping the same energy with certain artists, right, and they called it as as well. What do you mean by that? I mean, right, let's say the Gunna situation. Yeah right. I'm not too privy to like all of the details of that situation, so I don't really want to dive into it too much. But I think that, uh, like six or nine o he was an unlikable guy, right, I think a lot of people were rooting against him

because he was kind of a dick when he was popping. Yeah, people really didn't like him, right, he talks a lot of shit, he's a dick whatever, but he snitched fair enough and got blacklisted from playlists and shit. Now fans can the marketplace is the marketplace, but you know, certain there are certain industry things that you can be blacklisted from that can sort of affect or hinder maybe your numbers in a certain way. Right, And I just don't

think that that's gonna happen with Gunna. And I'm not saying that they're the same at all, but it just feels like a lot of people are kind of waiting and seeing. Yeah, but I mean, here's the thing, that situation is not done yet, so you don't know, like it's not like he took the stand or anything. So you know, but how look at Boston Richie. I just saw ten ninety Jake put out well hold on, but look at Boston Richie. They took Look at what Future did. Future took all of his tour. He took him off

the tour. But not only that, he took off all the songs he was on. He didn't He's not on no features on the Boston Richie album. You know what I'm saying, so it has to have some weight because it's still you know what I mean, it's still affected his Boston Richie was coming up. He was big, you know what I mean. He just signed with He just signed a record deal like last week, but that was

with with a major. I think Atlantic signed him. Was that before, No, it was after the initial allegations came out. And now there's this new video that came out today. I think it's gonna regardless, I think it's gonna affect his his It has affected his career. It has to because, like like you said, he's one of the hottest right so so regardless of what people might say, you know, it's still affecting. You know what I'm saying, It's still I just think Gun is like kind of like a

pop star. I don't know. I think if it comes out and if there's a video of him taking a stand and stuff, it's gonna be different, you know what I mean. So so yeah, I don't know that's that's six nines where that's his what he's saying. But it's definitely affecting people. You know what I'm saying. It's affecting him, and it's gonna affect anybody else. It's probably not affecting to the way that it would have back in the day, but it's still taking a toll. Like it's still you

could just go look on Boston Richie's Instagram. It's just different now, you know what I'm saying, Like it affects he was on fire, and he was on fire, you know what I'm saying. So you know, but what I'm saying is is like people you know, they like like like just people just like funk Master Flex, you know what I'm saying. He made a post saying, oh, I'm gonna play six non music, but he's the first. He's

the same person. Before that was like, you know, upholding a certain standard whatever, we don't fuck with rats and he would go on talking about it or whatever whatever. But now it's changing. Now people are just taking it because now it wasn't not convenient anymore. Before it was convenient. Before it was like damn, the street people ran this and we have to, like you know what I'm saying.

So everybody just conformed with it because it was just like, Okay, that's the way to go, that's the wave, you know what I'm saying. But now that the way now people can eat without doing that. They're not conforming into it. So it's fine. Like a person like like from Master Flex, I don't look at him like a street dude, but I just see okay, So why did you even conform to it in the first place? Why did you even

you know, jacket in the first place. But now whatever, it's nothing, nothing but a person like the one, the person that you just said before. H he he's different, you know what I'm saying. He's a person that was punching people, like knocking people out, you know what I'm saying, like from the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like he's like shooting at answer Rogers. He said, he don't rob people. He's like different from that, you know what I'm saying.

So you're gonna look at him. I expected something different and I shook his hand before, like he's somebody I know. He came up to me when I was locked up. He said, free China, Mack free the real ones. He came shook my hand. Was like, was like, oh you a real one. You know what I'm saying. We gotta stick together, you know what I mean. So it was a little different. You know what I'm saying. People was like, oh, why don't you call out that? Why don't you call

out no jumper? Why don't you call out academics? First of all, none of those people come from the streets, so I don't expect them to do anything their platform, and they're a different platform, different set of code, right right, So I don't I don't expect that. He's like, oh, the Norriega had them all, Well, I don't fuck with that even now, you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean,

who Norriega had Troy ava on talking about whatever. But what I'm saying is like I just you know what I mean, it ain't personal, it ain't like them, but it was just something I don't know. Norriega, I never shook his hand, he never said anything to me, He never looked me in my eyes, and we never had a conversation. You know what I'm saying. Uh, but this person did like we had a conversation, you know what I'm saying, Like he shook my hand and said you were a real one. We a real one. So all

of that. So he tried to like the the the DMS was like, you know, he tried to say that that's the reason, but that's not the reason. Like you know what I'm saying, Like I don't I don't care if you don't do my show or if you don't do anything, like you know what I'm saying. That's not

that wasn't my thing. You know what I'm saying. But you know what it is is he tried to flip it, like, not just him, but people everybody, Like a lot of people are trying to flip this race call thing, right, A lot of people are trying to say that I'm a visitor to hip hop, you know what I'm saying, and that I don't have a right to speak on certain things. All right, anybody that's saying that you got it, you got it. Look, I'm gonna take my glasses off. You got it, you won, you won, you won. I'm

a visitor to hip hop. I'm a visitor to hip hop. So I'm gonna pack my shit and go respectfully, all right. But before I packed my shit and go, I'm gonna take some things with me that belong to my culture, right, Okay, So nas nons illmatic, nons illmatic, right, five mics? Yeah, Miss Info gave him those five mics. Miss Info is a Korean American woman. Miss Info gave him those five mics. I want those five mics back respectfully. So now it matic ain't a classic no more. Okay, we're not gonna

stop there. I got some other things I want to pack up with me when I go. All right, Pharrell Neptune Neptunes Chat half of Chat half half half right, yeah, right right, all right. I need all of that back too. I need half half like divorce divorce half. I need half of that right So uh snoop dog beautiful. I just want you to know I need that. I need half of that. You know what I'm saying, super Dug, I need half of that too. You know what I mean. I'm taking all that with me too. You know what

I'm saying. Oh, I'm not done. I'm not done. Wu Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with. Woo Tank Clan ain't nothing to fuck with Woo Tan. I need that too, that name. I need that too, Wu Tang Clan. We need that too, respectfully. You know what I'm saying. Into the thirty six chambers, we need that suit respectfully. You know what I'm saying. Ah, Mystery of Chest boxing. Need that su need that too. There it is. I think that the people who leave those comments though, the visitor shit,

it's like it's so low. It's like low hanging fruit. To me, the race like race shit and hip hop, like I get sometimes like the low hanging fruit is like when someone calls me a culture vulture, like after I don't have them on my show or they DM me ten times and I'm like, I'm just not into it. You know, you're fucking culture vulture. I mean, all right, dude,

you know, like does that make you feel better? You know, yeah, it's just come on, It's just it is is that's weak man going with a race called is weak, you know what I'm saying, Like I understand, Like I understand that people is like, okay, hip hop is a black culture and I'm not I'm not taking that from the black people. Hip hop is a Black culture. But let me tip before, but hip hop was what hip hop was made in New York fucking City, New York City,

the Bronx. Hip Hop is a New York culture. Before you say any of that, hip hop is a New York culture because we the ones. New York was the first ones to do hip hop. It formulated in New York City, the Bronx, the Bronx, the Boogie Down, It came from the Bronx. You understand what I'm saying. And I don't know where you're from if you've ever been to New York. But New York is like this, like

everything is on. It's not like La where everything is off, where the Asian people are here, Black people are here, Mexican people here. No. New York is like these people here right here, right here. Your building, You're on top of this building. Everybody is on top of each other. Right. So if anything when hip hop was was was made, everybody in the vicinity was around it. This five elements to hip hop? You all those people even comments on my page talking about I'm a visiting hip hop. Y'all

can't even name the five elements to hip hop. That's true, you can't. You wasn't even alive when I started listening to the hip hop. I started listening to hip hop in nineteen eighty seven. You were still in your daddy nuts in nineteen eighty seven, coming on on my page talking about I'm a visitor. But what the fuck is you talking about? If I'm a visitor to hip hop, that logic that you have because hip hop was made by black people, right, and hip hop was made by

black people. Let me calm down a little bit. Hip hop was made by black people, Okay, me being an Asian American man born and raised in New York City around hip hop since I was a kid in nineteen eighty seven was the first year I was introduced to hip hop, Right, if I'm a visit to hip hop, being that I was born and raised and I learned so much in hip hop and hip hop was a part of my life, the only thing that's been a part of my life for all those years of my life, right,

the only thing that I still have something to do with that's still a part of my shit daily. Right, If I'm a visit to hip hop solely because I'm not black, then if we adopt that logic, logic, Michael Jordan is a visitor to basketball. White people invented basketball, So I mean you're telling me Michael Jordan is a visitor to basketball. Lebron James a visitor to basketball. Muhammad Ali float like a butterfly, thing like a bee, a

visitor a boxing the nerve. Imagine a white person come out and say, man, you guys playing basketball are visitors to basketball. It would be an absolutely absurd thing if someone said that, for sure, that'd be a ridiculo wow wow. But but see people be so I don't know what people be thinking, bro. People would just be caught up in their own thing. They don't think with logic. Let's think with logic. We are not in where I'm not from China, I'm not from Africa. I mean, I'm not

from China. Hip hop was made not in Africa. Hip hop was made in New York City in America. So yes, it was started by black people, but it's everybody in that vicinity was affected by it immediately. It's spread like it's spread like a disease, like it was all over. It was hip hop was it wasn't just black people listening to hip hop. Bro, There's five elements to it. There was sad, there was Puerto Ricans doing doing breakdancing. There was people doing graffiti, Asian people doing graffiti. It

was all it was. It was all types of stuff going on, so respectfully, shut the fuck up. Well there you have it. By the way, some of the best DJs ever are all Asian, like the Manbert Hubert is that guy DJ Craze. Yeah, there's some great some great Asian DJs out there, and and and for people to try to paint the narrative that I'm like racist, Like, Bro, I don't have our racist bone in my body, bro,

Like I came with somebody today. You know what I'm saying, everybody, I'm constantly with black people, like you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't have racist I don't. I don't have those tendencies. But I'm not gonna stand down on shit. Nobody's gonna strip me of what I feel like is min you know what I'm saying. So I'm not gonna allow that no time, nobody. I'm not gonna do that. That's like you me letting you take something from me. I die before I let you take something from me. Facts. Were

gonna shoot it out before you take something from me. Facts. So that's what we're gonna do. I'm not backing down, bro. Never is there any of the New Ship that you funk with though as a hip hop fan, like, are you like on some fan ship? Is there any of the New Ship that you're like listening to, like on your own. I like that PS song Millionaires. It's just that old school. Yeah that wait, who made that original joint? Yo? Bro? That just brings me somewhere else. Bro that that that

that what wasn't there is? Uh is is Dennis Edwards. Don't look any further that original joint? C you know what I'm saying, Pas, The way he took that sample and you could hear you can still hear this lyrics like the song in the back in the background, it's still going and he's just going over with his nonchalant flow like I love that, you know what I mean? Like I think he killed that. Like you know what

I'm saying. Yeah, I saw like a d talking that he might do some like celebrity boxing ship and he said to somebody, Yeah, I'm damn, who are you gonna fight? We suppose I'm supposed to fight nin a boy? Okay, I don't see. I'm not tapped into the universe to know who that is. Right, he's he's somebody from La you know what I'm saying. Uh, you know, and we're supposed to get it. I mean, you know, listen, I know I talk a lot of ship. Everybody wants to see if I could back it up, you feel me?

So why not? Let why not give the people what they want? Let's see if I could really do my thing. Let's see if my hands moved like my mouth. Pauls ayo, but but but why not. Let's get in that ring. You know what I'm saying, like like, so we're trying to set it up right now. We're in the process of setting it up. You know what I'm saying. And and yeah, I mean, you know, well speaking of I mean, obviously one of I think one of the moments where people kind of got to really kind of see your

ability to kind of carry a conversation. Or it was when you and Gen squash your guys' beef on YouTube. Legendary YouTube moment, legendary rat moment. How often do you talk? Do you guys talk? Ever? Yeah, I mean I speak to him once in a while. Was up, you know what I mean? Happy holidays like that? Feel me? What is he doing? I don't know? He got family, Yeah, he's he's breastfeeding. I don't know what he's doing. His wife's but you never know. Equal rights, equal rights everybody. Yeah,

Jesus Christ oh man. Yeah, we're gonna clip this one off nicely. We're gonna clip this one on nicely. Yeah, oh China Mac all right, well okay, so you got Mac Eats, you got Mac Talks, you have your new Twitch show. Yeah. The Twitch ship is kind of like, uh, it's it's like a it's like his own thing man. Like it's like like, yeah, I'm I'm doing like kind

of following. Like how I started doing that was a d called me and he's like, yo, bro, you gotta do this, you gotta do this, Like you know, I'm saying, you're gonna kill it. Like he told me that like a while ago, and that it took me a while to like because just recently you bought everything. Yeah, just recently, you know what I'm saying. And then I don't know if you know who Sneak is, you know is yeah he he him, him and a D Boat Actually SnO told me first, you know what I'm saying, That's when

he started blowing up on that ship. And then and then I kind of just like I was in New York. I was in the process of moving and stuff, and then AD tell me he kept on telling me, and I was just seeing his growth and I'm like all right, it's time for me. Yeah. How has it been so far? Man? Man, it's been not right, Like it's you know, it's a growth. I'm growing. But I could just you know, when you start something and you can see, like you can see

it right away. It's not like it's gonna go crazy off that, but I could see, like you know, I'm gonna have I'm gonna make my mark over there. You know what I'm saying? Is it? Have you been? I know it's like, is it a certain amount of time

it takes to become a Twitch partner? Oh? Yeah, you gotta do like certain things you gotta do, like, uh, you gotta have like you know, you gotta go live outs like eighty hours or something like that, something like seven times chicks on there just doing Twitch from Hot Tubs and ship. Oh you've seen her too, Yeah you watch her? No I don't. I didn't. I just saw one of those what's one of the famous guys, uh, the speed guy. Yeah, he was like saying that he

wants that ship to get banned. Wow, And I was like, wait, they got bitches and hot tubs on Twitch? Yeah, what the fuck is going on? It's lit, It's great yeah, I'm sure there's better live sites if you're into chicks and hot tubs. Yeah, you know. I mean there's some webcam farm and like name of country. Yo. I gotta ask you a question, bro, what's up with this blue Choo ship man? What's what's up with you? Bro? So if you go to blue Shoot he was and he

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childhood segment of my life. So like it's going to be like maybe from like fourteen to like eighteen, are you going to have like a essentially, because from what I understand, it's kind of getting the record deal right, like you maybe developed a pilot, get the script, and then you try to shop it around. Right now, it's already, it's already. Uh oh, it's already, it's already. You already got the record deal for it. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, that's a big, nice record deal too. Shout shout out to

the labels. I'm trying to think if there's anything else we need to talk about. Man, your music, but YouTube channel is doing great, man, I see you keep evolving and keep like, yeah listen China Mac TV. Make sure y'all sign one of that subscribe. I also have my streaming platform, mac Talk, and that's mac talk on YouTube and Mac talk on what's the other twitch twitch to twitch twitch go watch my guy, appreciate you pulling up Y. I appreciate you. You're YO. This is the last one

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