#263 - Jade Cargill

of setting you up to have a similar path. Yeah, I can see that, but like, this is Jade Cargo's show, so like that sounds great and everything. Phenomenal, phenomenal wrestler he was, but he was okay, well, okay, well this is my legacy. And he looked the part. Yeah he did. Hey, I look the part. But I'm only gonna get better.

Like and all the women that I'm being compared to, they've been doing this for five, six, seven, eight years with the best trainers, repetition house shows, and I'm just out there just winging and doing the best I can on live TV. I think everybody should be grateful that they're seeing this product come to light. Right, So for people who don't know, you're fairly new to wrestling, Yes, how long before like was Mark Henry that found you? Yes?

How long? Like are we talking here from like the first time you got into a gym and started trying to learn how to take bumps and stuff like that to now two years? Not even that, not even that, not even that, not even that, and like most so

other promotions, right, there's the big the big, other big promotion. Right, there's house shows throughout the week that aren't on TV, so people can kind of like learn without it being like Memed with the same partner, yes, right, Yeah, usually on the house shows you always ar wrestled with the same person guys you know that you're on TV with,

So you're just kind of like really out here. Obviously you're training when you're not on TV, but like all your high pressure situations, you're kind of going through it with you. Yeah. I mean, for example, the first time I used a chair, I remember seem Punk was like you have to choke it up like this, and like because they were like, oh, yeah, you're gonna use a chair, I was, I'm gonna use a chair. I've never used a chair in my life, how do I use a chair?

And no one gave me instructions other than him to show me how to use a chair? And I had to perform this on live TV and we'll seem punks ago that's why. Yeah, so you you've used the chair for the first time ever ever on TV? On TV? How that goes? Oh it was pretty interesting. That was a pretty I that was uh last year. Let's just move forward. I've learned my lesson, and uh, it's gonna get better because how because for people, because there's an

art to everything. Yes, And I'm a huge wrestling fan, and I always tell people like I feel like wrestling is one of the most like it is art. It is art. I love that you said that. Yes, it is. It is an art form that is of the highest difficulty physically, uh, emotionally, mentally, all of that stuff. Uh. And there is an art to everything you guys do, including how to hit somebody with a fucking chair so you don't kill them. Yeah, so how do you do it?

I can't tell you that what you're trying to get me he caught up over here, but I will say that is it is an art. You don't want to completely destroy your opponent where they can't come back next week and perform or something like that. But it's all in art. We're artists and we're trying to paint a picture for a story that an audience can follow and just respect and of course, like you have to you guys have to trust each other in the ring because everybody is trying to get home at the end of

the day. Yes, yeah, very much, so very much. What like, because with anybody who's new to wrestling, I'm sure you had moments where moves get botched or things don't go out. You got to keep going. You got to keep going. But like going, do you feel like there was a certain time or are you still getting to the point where you feel like you're hitting your stride in terms of pulling some of it, because you pull off some

pretty crazy shit. Yeah, I have a long way to go, and I understand that I'm getting more comfortable with the reps I'm having. I mean, this year, I think I had under this year alone. I think I had under twenty matches this year, and when it comes to more than a five minute match, I think I had less than ten. And the majority of your favorites say this year three or twenty two two. Sorry, but your favorites probably have ten matches in like two months. Yeah, not

even that. I mean, like sure, So for me not to have these these mining matches, you know, this can can do a lot to you mentally and physically because I'm not used to getting these reps in and me practicing. Jade Karka can only get to her biggest form live and the more people, the more I'm meant to my character. So if we have like a dark taping with like fifty people, I can't get into my character the way I really want to get into my character unless I

see a sea of people. Because I like, That's why I do all my heat outside, because I like interacting with the audience, or I tell the audience, hey you idiots to ten or five or whatever. I love interacting. I love them saying oh you suck, or this guy was like your five to two in person, I was like, get the fuck out of here, and I like, but I had to stop because we're on TV, and I gave her a chokeslam. Now I literally was like, get

the can't say it. And I went over to him and I said something but I have a long way to go. Like I said, your favorites have been in this game for like five seven Brian told me he didn't get comfortable until like seven years. Wow. So the fact that I'm on national TV, I'm pulling off moves and like I'm doing all these transitions, thank you and like, And the funny thing is, like I can do the big moves. They're easy. Like it's more so like can my partner take the move or like take this big bump.

But I can do all these moves. I was a powerlifter for a long time. Yeah. Well, you were saying earlier before we're on camera that you've lived through like five lives. I did. So what were you doing prior to being a superstar wrestler on AEW So I was a collegiate basketball player. Do you want? Collegiate basketball player? Went overseas for two years, played basketball over there. Jacksonville University, it's a D one university lahaf in Normandy. You know

that France, France. Yeah, it's it's pro pro A. So then I'm a child psychologist. I was a stay at home mom and then I supported my spouse who played baseball. So I did a couple of things. Priborly this, but also it made me when I got back into well, when I got the opportunity to get into sports, I didn't want to let it go. So does your spouse a trainer? Sorry, I am. When you were with him, he was in the league, yes, So now does he

get to kind of relax you guys kind of switch positions? Yes, well you're running around and traveling and performing, and yeah, we used to stay at home dad, But also we just brought into a softball team, so we own we're the fourth owners of a softball team. So there's only four teams out in the league right now, and it's going to be in Dallas. So that and then he the co owner for the Lexton Legends, so right now Brandon Phillips, so he played for the reds Raves and

want to ring with the Boston Red Sox. So he's really he's just relaxing right now, seventeen. But he's at home taking care of our daughter. And now I'm on the road right now, and I couldn't be more static because I love it. It's like fun and I don't need to do it, like I can go home, sit on my ass and make more money like pleasing my spouse than like doing all this, But I do it because I love it. Yeah, I love it. Now we always hear that, like when like just the wrestlers grind.

It's very taxing. And right now you guys aren't doing house shows like other companies, right but you guys are still traveling. How hard is it to juggle being a mom, being a wife, having all this other stuff going on, while also being on the road, while also you know, you're the premier talent on the females. It's just a lot.

It's a lot. You know. We get home on Thursdays majority of the time, and my daughter, who's five, the first thing she does is want to play with me, and I'm like, baby girl, please, like, let me just take a nap. I've been up since four and I had to get on this flight right after. I probably got maybe thirty minutes of sleep if anything. And thankfully I have a sport, I mean a sport, a husband who played in sports who understands like the grind and the fact that I need a break and I need

to relax. Like I got home this week, he set me up with a massage and everything like that, Like he does stuff like that because he understands how much it is as far as taxing on your body and on your mental and just a fan base and if they don't like here or whatever. So and the fact that I have a spouse who's not in wrestling helps a lot, because only if I want to get away from the fan base or anything like that, a negative attention, I could just put my phone down. That's all I

have to do, and he can care less. He's like, you want to talk about wrestling. Nope, okay, let's talk about what do you want to talk about? And I appreciate that. So it's a lot. I couldn't imagine having more than one child right now. I want more children right now. It's like, hell no, it's no way I could do it. But it's a lot. It's a lot. You you said that you were hanging out with seeing Punk quite a bit. Yes, at Comic Con. What was something that you learned from Punk? Because he's my fait,

all time favorite. I love Punk. Just stand on what you believe and don't be a pushover. And I admired that because coming into the business and being new, you know a lot of people it's like you have to almost shrink yourself a little bit. And I know who

I am. Again, I lived several lives. I've lived real life, and just because I didn't want to do this all my life, or because I didn't put in the time, I refuse to let anybody look at me less than not refuse for anybody to treat me anything different because outside of these lines, I'm a human freaking being and you're not going to treat me like anything else. So I'm not saying that anyone treated me any type of way.

I'm just saying in wrestling, you hear about that. Yeah, of course, of course, especially on the indie and I'm not familiar with the indies at all, but I'm not going to be walked over. And I refuse for you to to because I'm Jay Cargill and outside of these lines, I'm Jay Cargill, So I'm not going to let you address me anything less. So the fact that he told me to stand on what I believe and don't be a pushover that stuck with me. He's a great guy.

How crazy was backstage the night that Punk did that press conference with Tony Khn sit next to and shit hit the fan and it was like, I was like, oh my god, this is amazing. I have no idea. So I wasn't there. I had already left the stadium. I had already left right as my match I left. I was like, all right, like I'm out, guys, and so I heard about it just like the rest of the world at the same time. It was pretty shocking. But I saw that look Tony Khan gave him like yeah, yeah,

But I mean, I don't know. From my opinion, Punk's a great guy. He's been nothing but nice to the women's locker room. He talks to me, tells me his experience. Again at Comic Con. You know, we got really close because he was my my tag me in the interviews, and I learned so much from him and so much knowledge in the industry. And again he's you know, been in two different companies, and of course he's he can do whatever the hell he wants to do, so he

doesn't need it. He does it because he loves it, and that to me speaks speaks to me because I don't need it. I do it because I love it, and I appreciate people like that. How did Mark Henry discover you? We had a mutual friend named Kelsey, and she asked me jokingly, well, she was seriously a legendary bodybuilder. He is the world's strongest man. And his friend, Kelsey, our mutual friend, is a bodybuilder. And she jokingly asked me about it, but she was serious. I was joking

about it, and I was like, wrestling. I haven't watched wrestling since, like I was like fourteen years old. We're talking about wrestling, and she's like yeah. So she had a serious face, serious tone, and I said, okay, well, let me let me try this out. I'll all right, I'll do it. And she was like, okay, well, I really know a Hall of Famer named Mark Henry and he can get you into a tryout. And I went to the tryout and it lit a fire unto my butt,

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per view. Yeah, in some way in my life I'll get fucked if I get famous enough where I could just go out there and get fucked up, like they pull Really you want to do that, I'll be like front row and I get pulled over and I gotta take a bump or get thrown on the table. Real please, Oh my gosh, you sound like me. I can't wait to bleed for the first time, to have like a street fight and like the shot of the blood just go oozing through my face and my hair, and like

I don't know what I'm doing. I'n'a have to get a new wig when I'm gonna be the airport. But yeah, I know I can't wait. I'm yeah, and aw stay that'd some bloody moments so far, plenty, yeah, plenty. So whenever I have my first street fight, I mean, if I allow them to even touch me, then I can't wait because I'm gonna like just I'm excited. That sounds wild, though, but that sounds just as wild as you saying you want to go through a table. Yeah, put me. I

would love to get put through a table. But even if it's bite like a you know, like a Master Job or like Dolf Ziggler or somebody, you know, you want to go through a table regardless. Yeah, all right, all right, let's maybe put me through a table one day. Yeah, maybe if I can't touch me. Oh my gosh, that guy, greatest rapper of all too who what's his real name? I don't know Shad Moss t moss brou I don't

even know what. Okay, okay, so help me. Yeah. So this Bowot thing, right, Yeah, how much of the Bowou thing was like storyline? Like, h, he's obviously a very small guy. He's kind of small and around now just like they hit me. He didn't look at I mean, he doesn't look round at all. I think he's just you know, fills out in the face a little. But

other than that, yeah, is this a true? So obviously the battle thing was over shade, it was like everywhere, Like how much of that was like because break down the Bow Wow storyline and was it like mostly some storyline ship on TV or like, like what happened? I don't know what happened with it. Something was supposed to happen, it didn't happen, and we moved on from the situation. Did you ever listen to him growing up? I did. I think everybody did, but I was more of a

Romeo fan. Really, I was more of a Romeo fan. I like Bow and they both kind of ran one O six in park. As a kid, I watched kind of, but I played basketball, so I was out like at practice when that came on? When did I come on? Like seven something like that? Yeah? Uh, how how do you compare like the basketball grind to the wrestling grind? Which one's harder because you played real I mean you played Division one and you played overseas, so yeah, maybe

in overseas. That's why I was done with it because women didn't make that much money and so I quit because of that. And also it was just I felt like I was missing out on all my friends and them living life and like they couldn't visit me all the time because they had jobs. So I was like this is great, and like I'm experiencing life and like traveling, but I want to go back home and be with

my friends. Yeah, and even if it's like the peak of being a female basket player as a WNBA, like, financially, that's not that fucking great. If they made as much as the men, I would be out there shooting, even if they're going out nothing on. I think makes who makes the most money? I don't. I don't know. I think Donald Roy. Yeah, I think she does, but she doesn't make more than Like I'm just gonna throw a crazy number out there, then twelve million dollars. No, she don't.

I don't. I don't. No, I honestly think she makes like two hundred grand a year. Yeah, I swear to god, I don't think it's that much. You're lying. See, that's that's so I don't understand. Listen's the reason why I am. And Listen shouts to Britney Grant, Glad she's home. There's

a reason why she had to go to rush of them. Yeah. Yeah, Well, a lot of these so overseas, a lot of these these leagues they lock you in to where they give you a contract that says, hey, I want you to stay here and like Tel Aviv and not play in the double U NBA because of the season, So they'll do that, but they'll pay you way more over there and depending like if you're a Monaco is tax free, So I mean overseas is where it's at when it comes to women making money as far as basketball. But

you're missing out on like home life. That's the only thing that sucks about it. And you have to have an insane level of unhealthy fans in terms of like, haha, step on me fans some of the weird shit they say to you. Yeah, I can only imagine your dms are I could. They could probably be a dark place every once in a while. Yeah, I used to get those kind of pictures all the time. And I think because now I post my family a little more and my spouse, they kind of like back off more so.

But you know, people like that domination stuff. I feel like I feel like I just I just feel like men are very creepy. They can be well wrestling come on, wrestling fans are And I was gonna say, okay, there's a great male wrestling fans. Yeah, and there's a whole fucking just yeah, God bless them. I'm a male wrestling fan. I mean, I'm married and you know, I get laid, but like a lot of them. So you're admitting that

you're weird. You said earlier you were weird. No, I'm a normal I'm like of the minority of people who watch wrestling. But you know there's a lot of those guys. Yeah, yeah, I get a lot, But in person, they get afraid, they get timid, they get afraid. They really don't say much, like they'll say, oh, can I get a picture. It's like I don't do that guy that I'm gonna say. Have you had people send you unsolicited new photos of themselves? Yeah?

I have. I mean, but everybody does. I think No, Okay, all right, well maybe maybe my man used to go to different cities and women would be in his d ms and all kind of crazy stuff. So you know, I'm not there's there's a difference in our income levels. Yeah, I get you know, I can only imagine what that's like to like be like that's I feel like that's like fucking a form of sexual assault, Like bro is it? It feels like it should be. These people have like

cats is like their default pictures. So I can't wait to be able. Yeah, you're a person. I'm a well I'm about that. Have both, Yeah, I have both. But the cats are easy to deal within a dog. But I love they're you know, the cats stay handled out, but they're total bitches like they just and that's the reason my cat. I love her, but like she just she don't want to be touched when you beat up your dog. Yes, yeah, that's the only reason I want to get a cat. I tell my wife all the

time is we have a friend sheet and a Pomeranian. Yeah, I just want to get a cat. So you just box the ship out of the French bulldog and we go on TikTok with that's horrible. My cat doesn't like our dog. But our dog is like a miniature it was a miniature King Charles. So it's like it's just it is. It's a small little dog. But he's like, well she is so scary, so like she'll let the dog, like the cat just beat her up. And I'm like, come on, man, you're a dog, Like, come on, those

cats are they're serious the same age. Yeah, you're from Florida. Rick Ross has been on a w a lot recently. Have you ran into him? Backstage troll. I have sweet guy, nice guy, very professional guy, and the what you from him, that's like him. They don't rehearse. They just go out there and just spit. But also he's an entertainer, so that's what he does. So when it came like to the bow Wow situation, Bob was just an entertainer. He just spit and that's what they do, is entertainers. Like Shaq.

When he came and he performed with me before going out. He was like, I said, don't embarrass me. He's like, don't you embarrass me? And he's an entertainer. He said yes to my first match with Cody Rhods in Red Velvet, he looked at me dead in my eyes and said they're gonna eat and like anything I do out there because I'm an entertainer and so yeah, and he was like so you yeah. I was like what, Like, but

I thought that was funny. That was your first match ever ever, That's what I'm saying, Like people are watching, that was my Prior to that, I had an off grid match where I was a face and it was like five minutes and that was the only match I've ever had ever Prior to my debut, and most people have plenty of house shows and so many reps and like have perfected. I didn't know I was turning hill until I thought it was going to be a face.

And the first night I went out there to do my promo, they're like, yeah, you're going through the hill in hotel and I was like, wait, so does that mean I'm a hill? Like, yeah, you're a hill. I'd love to be a heel. So it's fun, it's fun. I love it. I would be like, I want to make a child cry in the audience every night I go out there. That's what I would want to do. I flicked some kids off, but I have a kid, right, no, no, no, if somebody messes with my kids, just want to do

something to their hero. Okay, it makes them cry. You got to mess with them too, Yeah, you got to like, yeah, that's why your mom's cheating on your fucking dad. Oh my god, what have you seen? M j F? Well Max, Max does it? Yeah yeah, yeah, So you you this whole this whole time. You've been a heel for the most part, right, Yes, that's all I've been is a hill. But I get cheered and I'm like what the fuck

I say that? Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, yeah, well company is not publicly traded to be a right, all right, all right? Oh my god, give me in trouble. So what was so talk about Shack Because she killing you obviously is you know the man. But to me, that's kind of a that's a pretty wild first match. You're tag teaming with somebody who's not a wrestler. No, but he's been in that in that stage before at WWE against the Cody who's like the face of the company.

How nervous were you? I wasn't nervous, Wow at all? I think because again, I played college sports and I've performed in front of thousands of people, and I've done all Star games and things of that sort. It just you're gonna get what you get. And even when like I've been out there and the cheer shots or anything of that sort, and it's something I've never done before, I just I don't know, like I have this thing where it's like fight or flight and I'm like, JJ,

you know, are how our fan base is? So you just got to go out here and do the best you can. And it is what the fuck it is? How hard is it to get the promo part down, because it's I think it's almost there's people who their entire WWF career is based on their ability to rock a mic, you know, or wrestling career. I know what you meant, but you know what I mean. So for you, like, how much work do you put into mastering that part of the game, because it's as important as the in

ring stuff. It's like they've kind of one hand washes the other a lot. And I take acting classes, so it helps. I take improv classes. It helps tremendously. But also my character is nothing but an extension of myself. So me saying like I got this, I got money, all this kind of stuff like I do, and I'm just I'm speaking from the heart. I'm just not as bitchy with it. Like I'm really a chill, laid back person, Like I'll post like a little stuff here and there,

but I'm not showing you like everything. And I live in Atlanta, so you don't want to get robbed, but so I don't post everything. But I heard it. It's just me. It's really high, even like in Buckhead where it's like nice, that's where you stand Buckhead, I had to move out. It's wild. Do you hear gunshots at like two o'clock in the morning, three o'clock and the neighbors talk through like an app, so like did you is that gunshots? And like, yeah, it's gunshots. All my

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seam punk fan too. He is the man. He is the man. But do you ever go back and like watch some of the greats and like some of the like some of the methods that they use, like like one of the best, and he spoke with like he

was calm with it, So I don't. My thing is where I'm trying to master is being able to talk like this, right, but I'm supposed to come off like a total like raging, like angry woman, And so I'm trying to master being calm and collect it and being able to deliver exactly what the hell I want to deliver in a raging way, but a calm voice, which is so I'm trying to find that tone right now rather than be like I'm that bitch and like yelling

all the time. So but when I'm in the ring and I'm doing these promos, like my blood just starts pumping and like I just get this energy and you hear the crowd yelling, and then that's when the rage comes out and you start screaming because you're starting to feel it. And I'm trying to just set back the tone a little bit and like, Okay, y'all feel this, but like I'll get to where I need to go with the yelling right now, I need to keep it mellow,

So I do check out all the grades. I saw you hang out with Naomi, who's obviously sweet woman, super cool chick. Have any of the like veterans, whether they're with AW or not, like reached out to you to give you any pointers or they're like maybe yeah, plenty, plenty plenty. A lot of people in this business want

me to succeed. And when I say a lot of people, a lot of the veterans, like all the old school people that you see, they want me to succeed, and they understand they see money, so they're like, hey, like one thing they appreciate, especially at all the old school guys at AW, they're like, you know, you look good

like that, that's great. Like Sting, he's like a lot of people want this, like you don't have to do much, Like you don't have to go out there and do all the slippy stuff, Like you don't have to do all that. People want this, like you don't have to do a lot, but let me help you fine tune these other things that you can do. Because Sting was a great looking wrestler for sure, and he came in and just excelled, but he understood, like you don't have to do a lot to get over and do all

these things. So the old school people they love the fact and I said, oh school, They're gonna kill me when I say that, I mean, yeah, yeah. Well the older our coaches and our agents, they appreciate the fact that one I come in and daily and grind, like I hit up Brian every week like, hey, can we

train on Wednesday? Can we train on Wednesday? Because I want to get better, Like I didn't enter this sport to be good, Like I don't want to transition into the next thing until I'm great at this and people

can talk with all the crap they want. Everybody knows I'm going to be great at this and I say that with so much confidence because I am, and I put in the work to say that, and I've just started, and I'm getting compared to so many amazing women that have been doing this for so long and have the best of everything. And the fact that I've came from nothing. I didn't watch wrestling. I watch it and I study it now and I respect it. You can't beat that.

So I'm only going to get better and that's undeniable. So the veterans look at me and they give me so much respect. And they give me so such great advice about keeping my head clear and just focusing and knowing that you're gonna be good. Just don't you know, don't be too cocky, don't get be so full of yourself where it blinds you and it gets in the way of your success. How hard was it because like you really didn't you say you you really didn't watch wrestling? Right?

I washed it until I was fourteen, but you know, like obviously, yeah, I mean that was a long time ago. But like, is it like because we always I at least perceive wrestling to kind of be like it's like a fraternity. There's a lot of unwritten rules, there's a lot of thing they don't want to They want to keep outsiders out as much as possible. It's like any industry, right, but it's it's wrestling is like very much the good

old Boys Club. It feels like so like as an outsider coming in, where was there like a learning curve or like a curve of dealing with maybe hate or just trying to figure out the politics backstage hate politics. I think the experience I got at the tryout gave me a lot of insights and Mark Henry again, gave me a lot of advice. I go up to people, act advice, be kind, ask what can you do? Can you clean up after shake everybody's hand when they talk,

you shut up? Like And I understood that from playing basketball and having someone take lead and lead. And I think that me being an athlete prior helped me in so many different ways and directions with respect and just being able to go out there and dominate in the ways that I have. Also when I came into aw and when I won the belt, I mean, I don't think anybody would like that. I just came in out of nowhere. These other girls have been grinding on the

indies for years. They have a fan base, like they've they've they've given a lot of their time and work and all this kind of body to the sport. And here I am coming in and I look good and it's like, all right, you're kind of being shot to the top right now. But at the end of the day, yeah, they can. People can say and feel the way they feel. But that's a lot on my shoulder now because I've been given a belt and I've been putting in a

position that let's be real, I wasn't ready for. But I know that I have to step in these shoes and I have to go out there and act like every things okay and mentally clear my head and focus and try to do the best I can do. I think I'm doing perfectly fine. Regardless of how anybody felt in the locker room. I still only person that I care about pleasing is Tony Kahan. That's it, Hey boss. You like what you've seen? Great, Hey boss, what you want?

That's all that matters. Nice guy, great guy, great guy. And he's like a fan first, right, yeah he is, Like he's so rich. I'm like, you want to get in the wrestling business. Yeah, well, if you sit down here and talk about old school wrestling or any type of wrestling, he can tell you anything that you want to know. He's so in tune. You want to talk about Boys Club, He's a part of that. Like he loves wrestling. So is Billy Gunn one of your trainers?

He is right now, he's my agent. So all my matches that you've seen, probably my last ten matches he's done. He's been my agent for great guy, Like understands what I need and understands the the that I don't need to do much. And that's what I appreciate from him because he's a big guy. And prior to that I was working with great coaches, but he understood like, hey, he won, he sold tickets, he puts asses in Yeah, one of the greatest of course. So and he has the body of I mean, you see his body at

his age is freaking wild. And I know it's wild, so I mean it is wild. He understands he's good, oh my gosh. But he understands what it is to put asses in seats for sure, and he understands what you need to do to get over and not doing too much. He's a very much a minimum like minimalistic guy. When you see him out there, does he puts you on like face sign with the road dog Jesse James, No crowdship, No, no, no, no. He just talks from

his heart like he's he's great. He talks like one of my coaches, and he plays sports prior, so we just have that sports connection where you can sit there and he talks to me like a coach captain. Yet no, no, you guys know from Florida. All right, listen, I'm with one thing I want to be is the female rock That might sound wild, but I don't do that, no, because when I say that, people act like it's like at the end of the world, and it's like, I

don't understand. Why would you shoot somebody's dreams If that's what they want to be, If they think they can do that, then hell somebody tomorrow. I feel like they can. I don't know, hit rock Bottom moment, freak. See you don't do it, you can do Oh yeah, I could do movies. Yeah, I'm not worried about any of that. I know it's coming regardless of what anybody says. But I mean, I have total respect for this man, and

I let's cross our fingers. We just saw someone like Sasha Banks leave one of the bigger US promotions go over to New Japan. Wrestling the last ten years has been like insane in terms of just the female wrestling world is Like, you know, when I was growing up, it was hard to get a female to headline a pay per view. Happens all the time. Now, Yeah, the

revolution is here and it's been great. Like when you think of like and not obviously coming from you who's not maybe as hardcore of a wrestling fan, but you've been in the business. Now, who do you kind of look up to in terms of other female wrestlers that you might not necessarily have a relationship with, but you just kind of, you know, admire them for what they've done and what they're doing. I think Charlotte Fair is great. I think she's a very sound wrestler. She can do

all the flippy shit that you want to do. She can go out there and have a hardcore match. I think she's a total total package that we have as far as an example for a woman, right, and she's like, fucking she's a lady. Yeah, she leaves and comes back and then she like it's like she never left. Yeah. So I mean, I think she's phenomenal what she does. People can talk, say whatever they want. I think she's a great wrestler. Okay, and you're a bodybuilder. You're in

amazing shape. Thank you for somebody who is like me or bow wow, and probably on the better side of our He keeps bringing this guy up. I don't know why. Let's say we're in our thirties or on the you know, the the our better days are behind us. What diet should we go with? Should we go with? Keto should we go with, like what are we doing? It's not that easy. I would have to know like your percentage. I wouldn't have to know like so much about you.

And so when people so when people ask me, like, hey, what should I eat, I'm like, I don't know because I need to know your genetic makeup? What eat? I eat whatever I want to eat. I'm out a point, yes, so what are you doing outside? Explain that? Let me explain that. You explain you're in a pristine condition. Yeah, well, let me explain that. So I eat whatever I want to eat, but it's relatively healthy food. I've found what I like to eat. So you like healthy food, you

just don't know what. And it took me three years to figure it out in a lot of money, and like going down the island picking stuff out and looking at all these healthy pages and stuff. What do you stay away from pizza? I'm not a big Hamburger fan, and but I've like my palette has changed, like I don't because I don't eat that stuff as much, like I don't really crave it as much. The only thing I do that's really bad is soda. That's it. I know, I know, And I'm a I'm a country girl. I

love me some mountain dude. And that's the worst. That's the worst soda ever. And it's but it's so good. I like coke. I like coke too, but it like hits you. It depends you like the fountain drink or like because the fat drink hits you different. Yeah, it does. The thing about mountain dew is a white guy. I can't be white and drink mountains why A be a wrestling fan? Why not and be a wrestling fan. I can't do all of those. What do you mean why? I don't think I'm a fucking jugglo. That's not to

shoot up a school or something. No, mountain dew is good, it's it's not bad, But I could. I just can't be the white dude who watches wrestling and drinks mountain dew. I get it, I get it. I love mountain dew. It's just so bad. It's so bad for you. I know, I know it's so bad. But do you just like the normal mountain? A cold red or about how blast? I love the cold red that's the best one, but I can get enough of it. My son is obsessed with code red it's the best. We get him like

bottles of it for Christmas. It's so good. But it has to be cold, like it has to be cold. It needs to be cold. But since you like coke, put it in the freezer prior to you drinking it. And it's like the best tasting coke that you have. I love cold coke, but that's all they had on the seas that was like the same icy coke. Or there's something about McDonald's coke that hits different. Yeah, like

your whole chest is on fire. They got that special concoction of syrup it goes, and then they got that and then they got that orange high sea shit and McDonald's you can't get nowhere else. No, oh my gosh, Yeah, you saw you like soda. When's last time you went to McDonald's and ate food on the road? Probably like three months ago. I had some fries, that's it. God bless you. Yeah. I'm not big into like fast food, but I will eat it. If it's a cookie that

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is a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. And then traveling and being on your feet all the time. Yeah, and being on your feet, Yeah, it's a lot. Well, listen, what's the next big pay per view? I heard said the Matter of your Life on Friday? Did I? That's what I just heard from Blake. Blake was telling me. It was nice. I had a great time, it was fun. I'm starting so I'm starting to just live in the moment,

and that's something got Brian has always been. Who is Brian Danielson, Oh, Daniel Brian, Yeah, that's your guy because I love him. I love him. Does he still live in Phoenix with his wife. I'm not sure because I'm from Phoenix and he was living there. I think he stays in like Washington or something. I love Daniel. He's such a nice guy. He's great too, Like, but I fucking love that guy. Oh my gosh, she's gotta say this over and over, Brian, he loves you. You don't understand.

I got all the shirts, I got the n yes, yes, yes, yes, I got all that ship. He's great. Him and Kane is a tag team team. Hell no, Oh my gosh, so good. And he finally won the fucking belt and he got injured. That broke my heart. I almost cried. He's a nice What you see is what he like, how he really is. He's a really nice guy. He's not like he doesn't play off, he doesn't let people try him, but like he's a very sound guy that

he's like training you. Yeah, he changed me on Wednesdays. Yes, Like technically he's like one of the greatest wrestlers I know. And Tony Khan is the one who set that up. Yeah, he's great. He's really, really great. But he told me, he said the first thing he always asked me when I come back is uh, like I'll say, oh man, I messed this up or whatever I have to say.

He's like, Jade, did you enjoy yourself? And then so now I'm living in the moment and like before, it's like four different layers to like wrestling, you have to listen to this person, this person, but now I'm like filling the crowd and I'm reaction yeah I know. And he's just like, I don't know how you do it. Like you're only two years here on National TV and you're having a do this and that and like that's astounding. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He told me about all this stuff, Like how he got comfortable with promos was he would sing the Star Spangled Banner in UK, like he had to do that. And he loves karaoke, and so I was like, oh, he's like, if you want to get comfortable with doing promos, do karaoke. Like you should definitely do karaoke and you'll be fine. Wow. So but working with someone like that, I'm getting very comfortable in the ring, and like he's just like you need to like just breathe in the audience.

You'll have so much fun if you just like live in the moment and like with the hits and all this kind of stuff, like just breathe and like take it in and listen, like you're gonna be fine. And now I'm getting more comfortable, and now I'm getting more reps as I just had three matches like back to back with these weeks, like it's been helping tremendously. Like that's all I need is reps. If we have house shows, that's even better for me. But me having one match

and like once every two months. Yeah, and then you're the champ, so they want you. They don't want you wrestling every week. No, No, you know I'm the prize possession. Yeah, they got to protect you. You gotta get to you gotta get to one hundred and oh I am. Well, let's focus on fifty. But there's no way they're getting you forty eight, not getting you to fifty. There's just no way in hell that's going to happen. I don't know.

Let's see the opponents I have lined up. I don't know enough wrestling over the years to know you're getting to fifty. I don't know you're gonna get. I don't know. There's they wouldn't drop the ball. That's what we'd like to call dropping. They wouldn't fumble the bag. A w is different. I can't fumble the bag. Is there one storyline that you've like predicted all the way through? I'm sure, okay, what what? Which? What was that? I don't know. I just know that i've like, uh picked like full pay

per views many times. Me and my son will like put our predictions together, and usually I do really well, Okay, well, you know, you never know. We're different. We're totally different. It'll be fifty you know. Do you get free Jacksonville Jaguars tickets if you want to go watch Trevor Lawrence? Yes, I actually have a picture. Women. Everything super nice. Well, I keep on saying everybody's nice, but they're nice to me. It was not nice. Britt Baker's not nice. You guys

got no, I'm kidding. She's cool. It's cool. I'm cool with everybody. I don't think nobody's ever tried to don't mention anybody, Okay, but was there anybody who was like I can you had to have had some haters being in a position where you are new to the business and as sending as fast as you have. Were there people who were dicks? Yeah for sure, Yes, of course.

But I can say, like one person that I did have these talks with was Britt Baker because she's in a tough position as well, Like she's not even our champ, but she's on TV. She's right there with our champ, like she's on Flyers, she's on this, but she puts asses in seats. So that's one woman I had a heart to heart with and we spoke about and like how do you deal with it? And she gave me some great advice And now I could care and give

a fuck less about any of that. Like, I'm placing a position and I have to understand I have to hold my head high and keep it moving, and I have to trust in our owner that you know, he put me in this position for a reason. He shout out to him smart guy. Hell yeah, people can say what they want, but he's super smart calculated man. I swear.

I mean the stuff that Aw's pulled off in such a short amount of time is like amazing, And uh, for you being kind of the face of the female division, is that something that do you feel like you've kind of carry that burden with you, like you know when you're because you're kind of I mean, you're the biggest superstar in the in the you're the champ, you know how the ship moving right now? Right? Like do you

feel that shit? Like do you feel the pride of like aw on your shoulders because there is a big the biggest company that you guys go against you. I do. I do, and I respect it And that's why I put in the world and I don't take this for granted to because to even hold a belt, it's a privilege. So I don't just going there and like lollygag and laugh about it, like I am representing my company every time. If I say when I'm carrying my belt, I always mentioned a W I always mention our owner. Our owner

is a hard working lawyer owner. He just want to the South Division with the Jacksonville Jaguars is a soccer owner, Like, huh, I bet they they make a lot of money. I bet the Jaguars win the division before and it's it's just wild. He literally was just at the show on Friday and then within forty eight hours was at the football game. So I mean, like, he's a hard working man. So I'm not going to disappoint someone who's literally in and out of air not even private airports, every single day.

At No, he's not. He's rich as hell, he's a billionaire. Why would he be I wouldn't either, No, not yet, No, not yet. But you know it's a burden, But I wouldn't even say it in a negative way, like I'm back and I'm gonna do nothing but get better. And he knows that. And him working with athletes, he can tell and calculate who's gonna be good at who's not. Like the man is a genius. Hey, we got to stop the interview to tell you about our family at

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Oh my god. But that being said, what are are you have any business ventures that you I mean, you already obviously have some. You have a softball team, But are there things you aspire to get involved with as you as your profile grows? And movies? But I think that's something that all wrestlers want to do, is get involved in movies because we're acting. We're acting, we're improving, like if something goes wrong, you just have to go with the flow. Like we're doing so many different things

right now. But comedy. I want to get into comedy more. I'm a funny girl and I want to get into acting. I want to get into action movies very much. So I have the love, I have the walk. I want to get into modeling. I know I can do that too, and prior I was doing modeling. So I just want to focus on this right now and then I can do I can juggle all this at the same time. I just want to do it at the right time. What's your favorite comedy movies? Give me three your top three.

Step Brothers is one. I think that's like my favorite one. Other than that, I mean, everything else is kind of step Brothers is one of the one that's number one, that's the funny Friday, and then okay, well, technically what you're saying, I mean Friday is a comedy. Technically my favorite movie ever is The Big Lebowski, which is behind you, okay, and that is a that's a comedy. Okay, Well, but

I would say step Brothers is three. Three. So what's your second big Lebowski, Friday, and then Step Okay, Friday's funny. All right, I'll put up there. I never thought about my favorite comedy movies. I've thought more so about my favorite movies, like I love Titanic. Titanic, don't judge me. That's pretty tipical. Don't judge me. Don't it's not typical. That is not And I'm like, okay, well my second

one is New Jack City. Oh great movie. Yes, I thought you were going to say the Notebook no, and you were going to really just dig into the typical. I love the Titanic. In the Notebook no, I love I love because it's the only movie that has ever gotten me to cry. I don't know why. Every time Ryan King didn't make you cry, No, it did not. I was fucking crying. I was crying on Titanic. You know what movie made me cry? That a lot of people because when I was a younger, I watched the

Passions of the Christ. Okay, I haven't damn to be honest with you, though I'm an atheist, I'm not very religious, but for some reason, when I was like a kid, I just felt Jesus dying and I was like, this is fucked. I cried, I can see. Okay, I forgot all about that movie. Well because of the anti semi made it shout out, yeah, dang, I forgot all about that movie. Okay, all right. Well another one is Hunger Games. Okay, made me cry. The first one, Yeah, that made me cry.

When Rue died made me cry. Okay, but what about you favorite TV shows? What do you watch on TV? Family guy? I'm a big family guy. I was watching it's a show on Netflix, Alice in Wonder was it Alice in Borderland? But I'm not. I watched the ending of it. Don't watch it. Watch the first one, don't watch the second one. Just family guy. I don't really watch TV like that. I watched wrestling. I've been watching wrestling. Do you watch the competition? I do? Just to get notes.

I didn't. Why wouldn't you. It'd be like people who I have peacock watch if you if you watch sports, you're gonna watch the other guys, you know. But I have friends over there too, so I watch just to see like what's going on with them and and you know, like what they're doing and we can have conversations. You should consume all things that will make you better at

your job. Yep, for sure. And I want to make sure we're not stepping on each other's toes, Like I'm not trying to say something that someone else just said. I'm not trying to wear something that they're wearing. So I stay on my toes and I trying to make sure I'm being respectful in the entire scheme of things. Well, I think you have to go watch the Shooty Clippers. With that being said, Oh my god, Oh my god. I hope, I hope you hear this. Clippers all right,

they're going to lose, all right? Why is it injured? Spoiler alertka, why is it not playing tonight? I don't even know if that's true. Paul George doing, I don't know. He's a he's a great player, but he's always injured too. Shouts to Palmdale. When's the next pay per view? March? I can't remember, but it's March. Okay, you'll be wrestling there? Yeah, of course I am. When is the next time you're wrestling? For forty nine? And I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Usually we get to work and if it's not advertised, it's like, oh, you have a match and it's like one time I had a match and literally had thirty minutes, well forty five minutes to prepare for it. Well, you'll be fifty and oh by March for sure. And I loved it, of course, of course, of course, of course. And where do you like? Last question before you go? Where's the belt? Now? Like what do you do with the belt? You leave it in the hotel? No, actually I left it. I left it in last week because

I didn't want to carry it. It's heavy. It's heavy. And then at that, like the real you have the I have two of the like four fifty dollars. It's too much. It's like every time I've missed three flights because they want to look at it, so they'll pull it out and like I don't like the attention to everybody like looking at it, and then everybody's like surrounding,

like oh what do you do? And that starts intil like a five minute conversation on this three flights because of it, because they have to screen it every freaking time and pull it out and I'm just I'm I'm just gonna leave it. So thanks for coming, no problem, Jade, appreciate you pulling up go watch your on AW Wednesday's nights at ATBs Champ tn T Friday at ten. Yeah, there, It is appreciate you pulling up, no problem having Mel