#260 - AD

You were like outside outside, I put more time into going out than putting in work than your music career. Sure, everything, yo, do you think everything? Do you think you catched that record Juice like was a gift in a curse. You caught one and then it was like over because you were just like everywhere. I wouldn't say it's a gift in a curse. I just feel like I got super lucky. And I didn't know what to do after that, so I was like, fuck it, let the good times roll, dude.

That record was so hard and then you you cut, Bro, you cut like the hardest dub plates for DJs. A millionaire bootle keV got the juice. But that's shout out to DJ Head because he's the one who told me to give him a custom one. Then I was like, oh, I'm gonna make one for everybody that shit everywhere. Yeah, because I was like, it says my name in it. Bro. It was like such a perfect like that's that's like an LA staple record. Definitely, you got a few. I

got a few. I got some more coming. I ain't done. Well. Listen. You obviously a lot of people more recently know you as a personality for sure, but you are a veteran LA rapper and I've been fucking with you and supporting you for it's been a long time, probably nine years so yeah, getting close to a decade. Yeah, but just to see you kind of like because you've always had a great personality. I think you came on our show

of Freestyle once and brought a wig. I did pulled the wig out and that was actually my baby Mama's wig. You pull you pulled the weave out, bro. Yeah, man, but you've always had like this personality. So it's just dope to see you kind of like embrace that ship, you know what I mean? Because I feel like there's like, did you feel like you were fighting any sort of stigma or hesitation to like dive all the way in

with that, because hell yeah. I mean, look, the thing is is like when you people put their own insecurities on you and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying, They put their own projections on you, and I just I'm just happy that I've always been a person that listened to myself. So even when I said I wanted to be a rapper, you know, my family at the time, they were like, Okay, I'm not mad at them for that, but they couldn't see it right, you know what I mean,

Like they it didn't make sense to them. So it was like, wait a minute, you're just gonna You're gonna wrap and you're gonna make it. You're gonna do this, You're gonna do that. So it's just like nig I was living at my granny house. I was twenty five, twenty six, right, so you know your family looking at you like, man, man, listen, you grown get a job, right,

you feel me? I got my baby mama living there, my daughter were under we under one roof, and I'm just sitting there telling them just having that self belief and having that faith that something was gonna work. And then something did work, and you know that pivoted me,

you know, doing music. And you know while that was going on, you know, I felt like I got I kind of got to a ceiling where it was just like, damn, the shit ain't getting no bigger and I'm watching this shit decline but still keeping the faith because you know, I'm like, something's gonna pop up. And then the no jumper shit happened randomly almost here an interview, right, and then it went, well, bro, almost everything in my life that's been very successful for me, like it randomly happened.

And I know it's not random, you feel me, that's all God, But it just randomly happened, like a lot of shit I didn't plan for, Yeah, because for you, because like, were there people your music industry friends that were like, yo, man, once you kind of go that direction, there's no coming back. Everybody everybody told me it's a bad decision. You need to focus more on your music. You need to do this, you need to do this, you need to do that. And I'm just like, okay,

and I'm gonna keep it real with you. When Adam first approached me. He was, you know, I was supposed to just do the Snapchat show. I wasn't even I wasn't supposed to be full time. I was just gonna do it. It happened. Once it happened, they was like, do you want to keep doing it? So I thought I was gonna be able to stay under the radar doing the Snapchat show because I'm like, like, I don't know nobody in this industry that was actively on Snapchat

at the time. So I'm like, okay, I can skate under the rug with this with the Snapchat shit, and then you know, still do my music. Don't nobody know. And then I just started from the Snapchat show. I just started seeing people just recognize me and they would come up to me, like I like watching on Snapchat, like younger kids and shit, and I'm like, what the fun And these all different race people and I'm like, wait a minute, this is you know, different and they

just coming up to me, coming up to me. And then I started subbing on a No Jumper show and just the amount of people that was just fucking with me. I was like, damn, like this shit is dope. It's a little different. Yeah, and then you know that turned into what it turned into. But I mean, now everybody says, oh, you're a genius for what you did. I'm like, nigga, the same niggas who told me don't do that. That was a dumb decision, you know what I mean? And

now I see everybody now everyone in there. Bro. Let me tell you something. Bro. It's so funny because even now, like I have people who are like people you wouldn't expect to want to start their own podcast, trust me, and they call me and they're like, hey, man, look I'm trying to do a podcast. I'm like, you're trying

to do a podcast. Like it's it's just to the point where, like I feel like it's like with anything once people see it, really because like, look, can you tell me this without getting into your business change, have you made more money as a personality than as a rapper? Twelve fifteen times more money as a personality. Okay, I'll say this four years. It took me four to five years to get a monthly check with music that I can you know, survive off of that. I ain't going

extra or anything like that. I passed that up my third week of doing my streams. I mean my third mark for community. Yeah, wow, past three years up, because you were like getting advances at every I feel like you have an album at every distribution. Good I had. I feel like you were bouncing around grabbing fucking bag. I mean no, I know, but I remember I forget me and you were talking and I was like, yo, are you an empire? And You're like, I'm on everything ship.

We got some shit on foundation, we got row foundation Empire. Shout out the fuzzy we had did a deal with priority, priority, everything under the sun, you know what I mean. So it took you three months to of doing your own ship, not even the no jumper shit, not even no jumper shoe my second month of the community, I've seen the check and I said, what the fuck? Wow? It was

it was game change. It was life changing. Now for people who do want to do the streaming thing, right, there's a different that you obviously are on caffeine now shout the caffeine. But what for you did you notice was the most before caffeine came into the picture. Was

it YouTuber Twitch? That was more? Well, my goal was and you know, shout out to the ace boy pun pun bought me a whiteboard, and he was like, you know what, because we started seeing the no Jumper ship was really working, and you know, Adam gave me my show. Once Adam gave me the show, we start seeing the numbers and everything climbing and everything started happening. And then I tried Twitch three times before it worked. So at first I just wanted to play video games and just

I was like, I'm good at video games. I could do that. I started playing Fortnite at my crib at my old apartment, and you know, I just had my son, you know what I mean, And my son's probably like one years old. My son's running around. I don't got no nice background. I'm doing a Twitch thing. Twelve people coming, So I get discouraged. I sell all the equipment. Then we came up with a plan with a shot the

sea side, stretch, shot out the wheel. We was like, all right, we gonna turn this streaming shit to something dope. We want to We want to got a spot, bought a stripper pole, we bought all type of equipment and me and I Miles Parish, we ended up teaming up because he was he already was a partner on twitch. So we teamed up and we started doing that every month, calling it the Monday Show, and I think the most we had was like thirty people watching us get discouraged

again sell The climate was that after you did No Jumper. Yeah, this is while I'm at No Jumper Parish. Yeah, So we started that, but it's like it wasn't it wasn't moving at the pace where I felt like it was worth committing to every month. And I ended up getting my new crib and I was looking for a three bedroom and the crib was actually four bedrooms and I looked at the bottom and I said, this is a whole bedroom. The other bedrooms on the third floor. It's

all away from each other. I'm like, this is the perfect setup. On Like, I gotta get the spot. And then right there, I was like, this is where we're gonna put all this stuff right here, it's away from the bedrooms. Nobody got to hear me make noise or do anything like that. My kids and yeah, man, we sat in that room. We got it, and once again I just wanted to play video games. And the first time that we streamed, and it's been it's been one year,

we just hit our one year anniversary. I remember when we did the corner store brunt. I think you guys just started just started. Yeah, and we were playing video games and I've seen what two hundred people in there. I was like, all right, we on the something now. And then it just adapted because all I wanted to do and on my whiteboard, all I wanted to do was get what was it, five hundred subscribers just for the year. I was like, you know, Pun was like,

we're gonna start small, We're gonna build this up. We're gonna do this and do that. And then went from playing video games cause they just start asking me questions when I'm playing the video game and I'm like, hey, they're like, hey what about this? They started asking me questions and I just start answering. So then I'm like, they don't even want to see me play video games. So now they wanted me just to talk and do topics and stuff, and you know, we started implementing the

freestyle and we just just showing the personality. Yeah, just just shooting the ship, and them numbers just started just start shooting up. And then we didn't even want to do YouTube. I just said we twit twit Twitch shout out to our moderator, Quinn Low. Quinn Low was like, I could turn y'all stuff into clips from your streams. And then we were like like okay whatever. He started, you know, making the clips. We started seeing like damn, people are really watching the clips on YouTube. And then

you know, shout out to him. He gave us ownership of it, and he you know, that's my moderator, he works for us now. He gave us ownership of the page of the channel because he made the channel. He made the channel just like on some on some like just you know, he was a fan of white There's a lot of those like Joe Rogan and No Jumper channels too like that. So he gave us ownership of it. And then yeah, bro, we started. We started making some real chili. And then that second month, the first month,

I was like, okay, this is nice. The second month, I was like whoa. I was blown back. I was like, I ain't never made this much money in one month ever in my life. So T Grizzly made one hundred and fifteen grand in one month. He showed me on his phone, what's your best month? Not getting into any numbers, get into some numbers. I want to say overall, and this is what everything could bind content wise, I would say close to like fifty sixty in a month. Yes,

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like you guys are both very reasonable guys. As to where most people who come from, like a cript background or a Hoover background, there's not a lot of reason, like like, I feel like you guys, have you have you guys ever like the thought process of like what if the no Jumper thing goes away tomorrow? Are you guys like has that ever been like a Oh, we're a team, you know, shout out to smack too. Were

pushing this whole big comunity line. You feel me, that's gonna go, you know, beyond just what we doing other stuff too. And one thing I like about you real is he's he's just like he's a parallel with me, meaning like people known him as being the best friends of certain popping artists. You know what I'm saying. People kind of know you as the guy with Ot exactly and Trey Songs and Joe Moses and Whisky Leaf hating around with Tory Lanez. Yeah, yeah, shooting feat Yeah, I

mean neither here there you feel me? But no, I've always been a number two guy for sure, and I've embraced that because I'm like, I'm one of the people where if I see my homeboy is sitting there doing dope shit, if I can assist him in any type of way, I'm cool. I can play the background. Because once again, it goes back to having that faith and knowing, like you know, I always knew you're gonna be in position. You're gonna be number one. It doesn't matter when it's

gonna happen, but you're gonna be number one. So you know, I see my brothers they need some assistance. I'm gonna help them out. I'm gonna be hype man. I'm gonna do the social media shit. At one point in time, I was posting all Joe Moses shit. You feel me. I was hype man for him something. You know, when he ain't have a whip, You feel me Me Me and him thugging out my baby mama car. We driving around everywhere, same as ot. We're taking a whip, We going places.

And that's the type of person I am. So I feel like t Real too. You know, he's always been a number two guy. And we know what it's like when you not really around them, certain artists no more, how motherfucker has changed on you, how they look at you. It's like, if you not around your home boy, we don't want nothing to do with you. You You know what I'm saying. You felt that, Yeah, I felt that before.

I just feel like everyone loves you. Yeah, but you know the DJs, but it was certain individuals where like, nah, they wasn't really fucking with me. It was cool. It wasn't no beef, but like to where how I used to see people and they were showing me super super love. It wasn't like that. But people always remember, like, man, you always been a cool guy. So as they see me coming up, they're like, Okay, you know, we'll fuck with him. We'll fuck with him and shit like that.

Has Ot thought about doing a podcast. He's not thought about doing a pod, but I recently had him on some streams and he's been loving it. So I've been like, I've literally for a whole year been trying to convince him nigga because he loves Madden, and I'm like, Nigga, get a set up and just talking shit. Because out of everybody in this industry, Ot probably got one of the best personalities on He's hilarious, hilarious, and people don't I feel like because Ot doesn't drop albums. He just

dropped songs. Ot is one of the weirdest rap careers ever. Yes, because this guy has fucking hit racks records, but he doesn't put out any bodies of work. No, he just throws out these moments and then he goes away or no, then he goes to the club. But you know, like or he'll pop up on like an RJ album or something. But it's like, it's crazy all the records sold and

he I think he's put out one project. He's he's yet to surprise me when it comes down to that ship Like back then, like I swear to guy, I remember when he first got his deal and he had got a large advance and we were going to the which time the first time now was a unit. That was the unit when he first signed with Buster. Yes, and listen, he got this advance and we were going to the club and I'm watching it. I'm like, bro, spending too much money. And he's telling me, where are

you coming or what. I'm like, I'm coming, Bro, but I'm a homeboy. I'm gonna tell you to recoup. Bro, this is a lot of money you spending. We were going to the club ten fifteen minutes before a close. Oh give me some don ps, like give me this. We're not gonna finish these bottles. And I'm like, listen at this time, I'm like, you haven't produced a record yet for these people, you know what I'm saying. And

he's like, bro, I got it, sure enough. It was a video and I think the song was called Yum Yum. We were at the Yum Yum video shoot, and you know, I feel like the label was probably like, Okay, he's not doing nothing. You feel me. That man took his own money. He did Coco took his own money, shot his own video, and the shit went viral. Yeah, and I watched that. I watched that, and and my dumb ass was supposed to be in the video ended up

getting getting there super late. I came at the tail end of it, and I'm like, god, damn nigga missed that viral moment. I feel like Ot is one of those artists that we look at as his music is bigger than him. But I feel like if he did a podcast, asked or he was like, because he's so funny, bro, if you ever look at his Instagram stories, bro, and that's that's where I get the shift from he's just

a maniac, he's hilarious. That's where I get the shift from his Instagram stories are so fucking calculated and like it's so entertaining or just him crip walking, Yeah, Cript, I mean you're by your terrible crip walker. Yeah, Big U killed me off. If we're gonna shout the Big U man, Big You, that's kind of the reason why I'll be crip walking no more. I get you shouldn't. No, Big You got me on a bad day. I was listen, I'm gonna tell you all this too. I was at

a lingerie party you feel me and viral? Yes, yes, I had the tux seed on, I had the hard bottoms on, drunk as fuck, and I start trying to walk slurring, and Big You recorded it and then put it on the internet and yeah, my sea walking days is over. It's only in private, I think, Uh, for you, I feel like you're I mean, Adam definitely acknowledges this. You kind of are responsible for, like the pivot in

No Jumper being like a universe. You were like the first guy to come in and be like, I guess maybe change up the business model a bit in terms of like now you can do interviews, Yeah, you know what I mean. And then just I feel like bringing in different personalities because it's now No Jumper. I watched the interview you guys did with Rory and Mall and you guys are just a lot of game man be cause you know our shit is guest based. But you know, I got my radio show, I got so much shit

going on. But it is very true what y'all were saying that, Like now you guys don't have to do interviews anymore. All of the content is really just about y'all. Like jo I dived into this fucking poetic flock oh fucking rabbit hole yesterday on your guys' this clip channel, and it's all just shit about like y'all, Like you guys have built this fucking crazy universe, Like is there

is there? Like when you have the seniority over everybody, But like do you get paid per like episode like how it performs, or you like on a salary like it's it's it's it's some of both. Because I have the food shows there too, which is Fire, halland Raise. I've watched I've watched almost all of them. Yeah that's that's you know. I mean that Stot was on the phone in that fucking episode. It's not the one that set up anything, you know, our median Stop halland Raise.

It's not me. Whoa, whoa shout out to Hallo raise. Nah, very surprised. It's it's it's dope though, because you know, I don't know why I don't believed to me, you know what I'm saying. But he gave me free reign to basically do what I want to do. He's trusted some of the people I suggested to come to the platform behind it. Even when we're on camera, people sometimes they'd be like, I don't like each other and stuff like that, like the nigga literally just set up another

game change and play for me behind the scenes. That has nothing to do with No Jumper. So it's like, you know, he he's not one of them people that holds the wealth. He'll spread it to you and stuff like that too, and so I appreciate him. You know,

he's family family. Na. He definitely seems like, uh, you know, I've talked to Adam a lot, and I always tell people like he's like a nice guy, dude, Like he's a grinch though, No, but I'm saying, like, dude, even four or five years ago when I was like originally gonna launch my podcast, like he pulled up to my house and did an interview with me in my basement, and it was like, he's always been a very giving dude, at least from what I perceive. If he fucks at you,

he fucks at you for sure. If you don't like you, he's gonna ignore he's gonna ignore you. You know what I'm saying. Like, And it's been it's been people on the team that said, hey, hey man, I used to hit you up. I dissed you. You know what I'm saying, Like he was like people like on no Jumper Jumper, Wow, yeah, like I mighty suspect her somebody. I ain't saying no names suspect. It's kind of crazy though, like just some

of the inter twitings of like the drama. You somehow always are very uh You're like Switzerland, You're very neutral with everybody that there's so much craziness going on in that Dot Jumper billions. I mean, you got to you gotta understand. It's like, well, you know my background in LA with the politics and stuff like that, I just feel like a lot of people, you know, certain situations

ain't that serious. And if I can intervene, and you know what I'm saying, make that shit help help that situation, then I'm gonna do that because you know, I know what it's like to come from different shit and different circumstances. So now that I'm in position over here, I don't want nothing to fuck that up. And a lot of times something somebody else does can affect the whole team. You know what I'm saying. It can affect the money. And I'm like, hey, nigga, don't cut the fucking money.

You fuck with my money. Now, I ain't no more neutral nothing. It's to hold an the ball game. Yeah, because I even look at like the way you handle the Flocko thing, Like yesterday you were talking like you were you were kind of being sympathetic to his mental health, bro, because as a person who've had mental health issues, you know what I'm saying. If you ever watch me, I always talk about that like I've had super severe anxiety,

you know what I'm saying. Once I stopped drinking hard liquor, man for like three four months, I was I was super depressed, you know, having insomnia, Like I just feel like I was at a fucking terrible point in my life. And I know mentally, a lot of times, man, especially for somebody like Flaco, he's from North Dakota. He you know, he don't. He doesn't look like us, he doesn't act like us. He does things that are different, but that you know he has. He takes so much fucking hate

and it's like, I think it. I think it all really started once he he had that moment with that dude who spit in his face. Yes, and you were sitting there like I didn't sign up for this shit. But even even even that like that, a situation like that is like, you gotta think about that. You get spit on, You feel me, got everybody talking about you all the time. Sure, and it's like that nigga got feelings too. You feel me, and we don't know mentally what he's going through. It seems like a nice guy.

He is nice, and I'm like, you know, God forbid, something happened to this man or he felt like he can't take it no more. You feel me. I want to at least be like, you know, I'm somebody that was nice to you. You feel me. And I joke on him too, like I say certain things to him, I call him, I joke on him, I play around, I troll into we all do that shit. But at the end of the day. It's not to be malicious. And you know I care about him and I care

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bookie right now, sign up for an account. Let's get back to the interview. Were you going to be a part of the uh Kanye Western interview that didn't happen? Yeah? Was that that was the Nick Finn test thing? Uh huh, So shout out to my guy Guilty. So Guilty is a guy behind the scenes. I don't know how he does it, but he contacts everybody. He's put He's put a lot of this stuff together. The first Nick Finn

says interview, he actually arranged that. I was gonna say that was kind of a weird because I didn't know anything about Nick fuintest. And I've seen you guys talk about like how like you know, we probably you know, it probably wasn't the most productive conversation. No, I didn't know anything about this dude, and I just saw I think I saw Adam talking about it somewhere, just like people are gonna be pissed about this. I was like, Oh, let me see what the food the fuck this guy is.

I was like, Oh, this guy's kind of like a he's kind of like a white nationalist. Is No. But even that situation that showed me like, you have to I have to do my due diligence and before you talk to anybody, to talk to anybody, you know, like I just a lot of times I get to just use my personality and coast on certain stuff, and I'm not even putting myself in a situation where I got to hold it down for my culture and I have to hold it down for my people being an African

American man. So if somebody has viewpoints and they're sitting there saying some stuff to me and I don't know how to counter that, you know, it's kind of like a letdown for my whole community. So that first interview showed me where it was like, Okay, I need to be more prepared and I just can't not studying, not you know, get all the facts before I jump in

the ring with somebody like that. Was that an interview that you you got negative feedback from from like like just like you said, like, do people think you didn't do enoughing? Yeah, they're like they're like, you should have said this, you should have known this, you should have known that. And I agree. I'm like, yeah, I should have did way better when it came down to that, because you know, not knowing the history, Like that's not

no excuse. I have all these resources. I'm in position people look up to me, and I feel like I got to be a good representation for them. So if somebody's coming at my people or saying certain certain things, like I got to be able to count that and do an intelligence least. So when the Kanye thing was about to happen, Oh I did it already. I was

studying for like three days. Didn't nobody know. I didn't tell nobody, but I literally was a deep diving getting all my facts together because I'm like, if anybody say anything, I'm about to I'm about to be there. They just didn't pull up. I think Kanye is canceled on everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

it's crazy. That would have been a legendary. It would have been legendary do you feel like because I feel like with your relationships in hip hop, you have yet to in my opinion, really like lean on them too much for guests, because I know the people who you're super tight with, and like, out of those guys, like I know you've had Wiz on mm hm, he had ot on, but like you got other guys that like

a lot. You probably could have pulled Tory on if you really wanted to before all this a lot pray we could go on and on and on, but like, is that something that you try to kind of keep separate to where you're like, look, these are my friendships and if it happens, it's going to be organic. It's I'm not going to like hawk somebody to try to come on the show. I've never even with wiz Wiz hit me up, was like, Hey you still doing podcasts? I want to come on here? Yeah, ot like I

want to come on here. It's like I don't want to like put that in the ear. You feel me. It's like you know, if you see it, if you see what's going on and you want to come on, I rather you do that versus me like, hey, bro, do this favorite for me because let's keep it real. That's all these niggas do anyway, all they do is get favor. Bro, Can you do this for me? Can do this for me? Can you do this for me? Can do this for me? It's like, nah, I want

to be one of the people. It's like, nigga, I want to when we're friends, were friends, We're gonna hang out, we're gonna turn up, We're gonna do that. Keep it. That's our relationship. We keep that shit separate. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah, what's for you? Like, what was the one time you, guys, you've done an interview so far where you feel like you you kind of hit your you know, doing interviews like rapping, you get better, you

know what I mean. But what was kind of for you, like the peak interview where you were like, oh, I felt most comfortable. This was my best conversation. You want to those crazy shout outs, tim I got nineteen keys, you feel me? I think that was like one of the ones where I was like, oh, this is dope. But you know one thing that people don't know, you usually don't see me interviewing nobody. That's true, you know

what I mean? I usually co host on a lot of the interviews with Adam or all doing with t Real, or there a guest on. Yeah, there's a guest on the show. So and the reason being, I have so many relationships, you know, smaller skill to higher skill. I already know what that shit's gonna be. One of my favorites was the Massi combo. Yeah, it was like it was like it was it was like but it's natural. It was natural. It wasn't like an interview. It was like he was just a part of your guys. I

just want you to come. You want to come, sit down with a d I want you to come kick it, be yourself. I'm not gonna ask you no incriminating shit. I ain't gonna ask you no weird shit. I want you to come. Have a good time. You feel me, Smoke, drink, dude, what the fuck you do? Loose en up and show people a good side of you, because, like I know, like Mazzi has a stigma on him. People he's crazy, he's crazy, he's crazy. He came on on the show and just joking around and people like, damn, I ain't

never seen Mazzi like that. So if I could put that in the air. Then that's what That's what it is. Do you find yourself if you're friends with people and you know that they have pretty big issues with other people? Because I like the note jumper thing is like, I mean when when krit Mak was coming up d a lot with t Rel being in the building, it's just like I was like, Yo, that shit, that shit's crazy, Like this guy's got whatever he's got tattooed on his

fucking forehead and Trell's a main host there. Like it just it was do you find yourself like turning down shit or not being a part of certain shit maybe because of the relationships you have outside of being a I mean, loyalty is always going to be number one of my book before anything, like I don't care about shit like that. But you know, Trail has grown enough and he doesn't care, you feel me? If you know, if krip Mac wasn't how he is, Trail probably wouldn't

have no problems sitting down him. He sat down with Odem Slim, and I thought that that was super big for the culture in the streets. That yeah, like ship like that is super dope. So Trail has it to where he's looking at the bigger picture of where he wants to be placed in his history. And see Mac is just se Mac. You feel me, he stands on this ship. He you know he is. He is who he is and that's why people love him. So I mean, situations like that are always going to conflict and I

don't get in the middle of that. But loyalty wise, like I gotta rock with my with my guys, right or wrong? Have you turned down an interview because you just kind of knew maybe somebody you're a friend with might feel some type of way not turned down an interview? I just don't be there. I was just like, hey, somebody else wouldn't do it, y'all can do it. I'm not gonna be a part of it. Yeah, I'm not in it. Yeah I'm cool. Like I ain't gonna I

ain't gonna block the right right right you feel? But yeah, like that's like right now, you my guy, fuck with you. I can't somebody that that blankantly hates you, you feel me like, or is this super going crazy on you? I can't sit there and call you my friend and go sit down with him or facilitate something knowing that he's about to say something bad about you. I'll be a fake ass nigga for that. That's fair you And uh, first of all, shout to China mact go because you

guys had a very interesting altercation. You got shot the fair fade, and now you guys are fucking making content together. You you inspired him to get his twitch, his streaming equipment. Going my guy to me, that's like a situation where it's like this is how like issues should be resolved in hip hop, this in general, men being men. Yeah, Like you guys fucking got it in, kept it moving, and I feel like people need to see that, right,

you know what I mean. And it's crazy that like a lot of people praise that situation when it's not really a big situation. It's like, Okay, niggas got down, they did they shit and they it's it's some normal shit where you know, but it's like, you know, people are so used to like, Okay, we're gonna slide on him, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that, and it's like, listen, you can have a dispute and you know you don't have to go down the blows all the time. Let

that be the last resort that's the last resort. Last resort. Let that be violence. But just in case you have a dispute with somebody, y'all can sit there and pass that up. And if it can't be handled with words, go ahead and knuckle it up real quick and shake hands and keep the shit pushing it because you know a situation like that, China Mac is one of my dogs. He can come to my house whenever you want to.

We about to start filming other type of content. You know what I'm saying, and doing shit together, so you know what I mean. You know he's killing it too, his mackat shit. This is amazing fire, It's amazing. Yeah, when you do the food show, we do no how do you you get like, how do you guys pick the restaurants? Like? Is it like we we haven't done a Mexican spot. Let's do a Mexican spot. We haven't done a hot chicken spot. Let's shout out to s Doc because he's been helping us out a lot with

that too. And fucks and going forward, we about to have a more. You guys gotta go to Raffi's fucking did you get the whole Armenian fucking experience that stopped put on for your fucking people. Bro. He took me to a he took me to a gang of spots. But now we're about to We're about to do things

a little more differently. We're gonna film everything way more structured because I feel like by the time that we got to pick a place we do it, it takes too much time to produce, and I feel like if it was more frequent, then more people will be watching it, which is doing amazing, don't get me wrong. But now we're gonna break it down into like seasons and then take a whole week to film all the content and spread that out and break it down. Yeah, cause you

guys drop what is it once a month? Maybe not even that sometimes. Yeah, it's not very consistent. Nah, but you know we have the spots. It's just you know, the editing team, man is so much content that they have to edit, and they do on top of our shit. But every time we drop, the views have been amazing. Hey, we got to stop the interview real quick to tell you about our family at Hard Dean. That's right, Hard Dean,

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I'm surprised you ain't did that shit. Yeah, me and Freddie talked about doing one, bro. It's amazing, especially like the you know, you get to you get to meet your core audience right and you know, they they can scream out what the fuck you want? Like especially like doing streaming, it gets you kind of equipped for that cause you're used to reading the chat and people saying shit.

But it's the same thing. People in the crowd. They have questions, they say shit, and you go to the meet and greet and people show you know what I'm saying, you so much love and ship like that. It's dope. What are you doing on the rap side, You've been putting out some looci'es. You've been throwing some singles out there here and there. I got some big ship going you. Once again, I had a fucking I have some balances

that had to clear. They're clear now. But you know me and I'll just say me and Don Canna got a whole project. It's almost done that he's producing whole day. Shot to Don Cannon man shows up, Krashan, you feel me? Shot to Kashan. You know what I'm saying with maker sound and all that hit maker? Okay, well I got I didn't know if you just told me you're gonna drop a clabby people with Krashan rock or not? No, no, I'm saying fuck no. But you know, just you and Don. Well,

I heard some records somebody was playing it. I think it was casting was playing me some oh yeah he or some ship some ship that was like crazy, like just barring, barring the fuck out. It was like I was like, when you hear me and Krashan ship shout out the hit maker like yeah, we got me and hit maker Kashan, Like this ship is out here. Would you do you feel like you're doing like music now because you want to, not because you have to? And does the music get better there? Nah? I just feel

like now I don't have to force shit out. I could. I can put out quality versus quantity because you know, I don't have to live off of music no more. But that wasn't The goal was to be just successful. You know what I'm saying something yeah, something, just be just be successful. So it's like now and then too, Like I hate people putting that stigma on that you can only be great at one thing, but you can only be you know the face of this and doing that.

And it's like I look up to ice Cube. I look up to Donald Glover where I'm like, man, listen, like Donald Glover. You see him do stand up? You see him you know producing Atlanta att Yeah, you could drop music. You could do that. And it's and there's no ceiling for him. Ice Cube, you feel me? I mean you were in Dave too, Yeah, and Dave. I'm actually too, man, if this comes out in time, I'm in the New House Party movie too. I heard a lot of people shout to caw ma. I heard a

lot of people in that movie. I'm in the movie and I got a song in the movie. A lot of people are in that movie. Yeah, So are you, like, are you gonna try to dive into that side? Hell? Yeah, I'm care if I'm doing everything. Yeah, I think you should write a sitcomer. So I'm doing it. Oh, bro,

I would love doing sitcom. But yeah, Bro, I just feel like the sky is the limit, Like it's nothing I can't do it even right now, people like they're like, bro, you're killing that podcast and killing it at streaming, Like they may think this is my ceiling. This is not my ceiling, right you feel me? Who taking this shit

even crazier? Put you like if you if just being a fan of the culture and having the friends you have, who's somebody who hasn't thought about doing a podcast who you think would just fucking destroy it if they ever got in front of a mic and did this shit? Uhh, that's a good one. Artists wise, are just a genuine artist. I would have to say, honestly, I think Gibbs would be fucking funny as fuck for for a podcast. Well, you know, we've we've talked a gangster Gibbs have talked

about it over and over and over. Oh so he thinking about it. We've yeah, we've had our Yeah, we're being him. Were supposed to do something like two years ago. I think I think he has the personality because he the way he talks in general, and how he tweets and says certain things. I think he would be good. He's got to do it. Sober Freddie drunk on camera three episodes in He's canceled Hey, yes, yes, but I think like that'd be entertainment. I watched it. No, Freddi

Gibbs would be amazing. Uh yeah, there's a few guys, but Fred's Fred to me is the one, yeah, for sure, because he'd be doing stand up and ship and all that. Uh. How do you feeling about just LA hip hop right now? Man?

Because you were part of an era that was like I think of you, I think r J. I think just that whole class that was you guys are kind of like veterans now, which is kind of crazy, But you know, I feel like LA right now is in a place where a lot more people are working together then I feel like it used to be, even though

there's still separation of politics and all that. Man got too, But you know, I feel like a lot of these younger kids are kind of like embracing each other a little bit more than I've you know, seen in previous I guess classes. But how are you feeling about what? I think? I think that you know, and I love all the new guys that are out. You feel me? Shot out to Bino, Shout out the Blast, Shout out the Blue Bugs, Shout out to Kaelin for real, for real Woodchi, Who am I missing? Who am I missing?

Give me some names? One take one take as child, Yellow Hills Dope, Oh yeah, hey, yellow Hills doing this thing? Sony A matter of time for Yellow Hill, Sony, A matter of time for Yellow Hill. Who am I missing? Who am I missing? Lot? Even Ralphie Man, Ralphy be killing it. I love I love Ralphie music. You know what I'm saying, Baby, strong guerrillas. You know what. Perico still holding it down too. You gotta get Perrico his credit,

killing it. He's killing you. Gotta get miss credit. It's a it's a lot of it's a lot of dope guys out here. And shout out to the niggas in the I E. Two. Hey that's somebody who could do a podcast. Japeriica, Prico's funny, He's so funny. Oh yeah no. But I feel like now, you know, how music translates now in the city is way more harder because I

was a hot new hip hop baby. You feel me like I got discovered on how new hip hop and I had my you know when I felt like I needed to drop albums, they're right there front page, that pif right there, High New hip hop and the discovery for new artists now was just so fucking hard. It's like everybody chasing TikTok, but I ain't really organic like that, you know what I'm saying. Chasing that. Yeah, you might

catch a moment, but you ain't got no no concert tickets. Yeah, And I mean, now, the club scene is so fucking dry, and that's how we got our records out there. You feel me them supper clubs, them playhouses. You'll be able to go to LA club and hear some shit and be like, oh, what's this? Yeah, everybody knows it. Everybody knows it. And then you go back home and you learning that shit. But like and that's how like you know, the bookings and stuff like that, that's what kept us afloat.

And yeah, the club shit out here. I mean and listen, I'm to the point in my life where I don't go out unless and getting paid or it unless it's like an event that it really makes sense for me to go. So I'm kind of like I just remember, Like I feel like since the pandemic, the club scene has yet to fully really rebound the way it was

for for like local La hip hop music. Now, I don't know, Like I hear that there are some spots, like I know that the LA function is cool, the LA Function Supreme Teams, Dragon Dragon, Dragonfly too, But but I mean, like as far as the impact, it's not there like people used to. I want to go to LA to go to supper club or the playoffs, and right now on some fly type ship. I mean, you know, shout out to my guy, uh, Scott, I mean my guy,

Sean my bad, I said, Scott Wednesday's Highlight Room. You feel me, Yeah, Sean Dickerson, my gos Sean Dickerson, I said, Scott, what's that sadik right be booming? Yeah, but that's but that's not that. But that's not nobody, not a lot of people and get into that. No, nobody, And they're not playing no LA music, not playing no LA music. No, it's a vibe. It's a vibe though, and you're running to the who's who of the world. Yeah, but there's

no like LA culture up there. No, but LA culture wise, Like I feel like y'all have to stick together now, you'll have to do music with each other. Now, you'll have to do concerts with each other now because I'm loving all the shows that have been happening at the Roxy. Yeah, it's been dope. It's been super dope. Started Kayling yesterday. He about to go back on tour. K Yeah, we got a fire record coming out. That's gonna be the first thing I dropped coming back and real for real.

And then you've been dropping records tell here and there. Yeah, just to test the walls and see the climate is like yeah, I mean, dude, you're you're bigger than you've ever been. Yeah, So the music is gonna But that's the that's the thing, like if you think of Okay, so you think about the process of music now, right, and I own a studio now, so let's eliminate owning the studio. You have to book studio time, you have to pay the producer, you have to do the song.

You got to get it mixed, you gotta get it mastered, you gotta do the video. You got to put it out, and hopefully you got to figure out a way to make money off of that because you're already for people who don't know, thirty nine every million streams on Spotify. That's it so and you have to hope that it accumulates that to get your investment back, versus I can go downstairs and make three grand tonight. Yo. That's crazy.

So you know the urgency of it is like, you know, I want to put out shit that I feel is perfect. You know, it's dope. I don't have to rush anything. There's no fillers in there, and we could sit there and see if the songs age over time because a lot of the shit I deal with Cannon, some of them songs were almost three years old, but it still stands up. Not I mean, Don Cannon's that guy come on production. But that's the difference with the production quality,

you know what I mean. Like when you're a real producer, you can make them timeless records and you can bring the beast out of artists and stuff. I may understand something ad because you know I'm from Arizona. I was just out there's my second home. You know. I love Scottsdale. Love you some scott Stale. I gotta get you to my new club, bro. Congratulations on that man. Wait, wait, you doing it with my guys, Corey, Corey and David They ye and my guys. Yeah, yeah, I'll be out

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at four forty five in the morning in La. The taco trucks are all closed value where Crave Nigga, Crave Cafe? Where the fuck is that? Bro nigga? It is literally is there a driver? Like three of them are out there? Is there a drive through? No driving? Fuck out of here. I want to drive through and give me a fucking California brito at four in the morning. True, And it's like, it's La. You can post made it fu post? You

know what they got that post? They got that white hut shit that that what the great white hut that they just opened. It's good enough because it's the only fucking thing you can get food from. Guess what? You can just drive through? No no drive through. There's a certain shit about La that really bothers me because it's La and it should be like should be booming, it should be all night. I should be able to go get food. I should have more options than Jack in

the box. That's all I'm saying. I know I'd be trying to like, let me hear and go to the hibachi before you open it all? What do you I think If I was telling us stout this, I was like, bro, I'm trying to open it all night, just twenty four to seven spot because I feel like it would boom out here. It would because there's nothing. Do you think there's any like restrictions against that. That's why they don't

do it. I don't know. I just know I live in Burbank and then Ourmenians be closing down early but early, yeah, because I can't get nothing. I gotta go to Jack in the Box. You live in Burbank, Jason, Are you worried about bringing people to your house when you do

the stream? No, because everybody that I bring, like I trust with my life anyway, and everybody everybody okay, and honestly, honestly, like, I don't live in fear, and if it has to go down, prepared for it because I had like a huge I bought a new house in Bourbank and I have like this huge building behind my house, and I was like, I could totally do the podcast right here. I was like, what the fuck that ship? Well, that's

kind of like what you know. The goal is now is to buy a compound and buy a hub so we don't have to just bring everything people to their crib. What's it like? You and Pun have been rocking for so long, and it's dope to see Pun kind of become a personality too, because he's just been up and that was on accident too exactly. I mean, he's been behind the scenes for so long. He's I mean I met Pun, I think originally when he was working with Problem way back in the day, probably when alone, That's

when I met him gam alone Problem. Yeah, shout out to Pun, But uh, he's managing you as well, right, and he's been man, I mean, he was managing you wash when was it was? It was Adrian managed you just switched out of Switch Switch. Switch helped me out tremendously when it comes down to that's my brother, always will be my brother. Plumb was one of the people

that I appreciate continue to rock with me. I was not making this money for a long period of time and he was still fucking with it and everybody was telling him, why the fuck do you fuck with ad so much? Right? You know what I'm saying. He always told people, Hey, when he finally settles down. When he figures it out, he figures it out, he's gonna pop. He gonna do it the right way. And you know, I'm just glad that now people see like, Okay, you had your to the right person for sure, man, and

you're killing it. I'm proud of you, Bro. It's dope to see you. I mean, I fucking I watch your ship all the time. Man. I appreciate it. Bro, I'm proud of you. Bro. I'm like, damn nigga care Bro, we're doing our thing, man, kill it, you know what I'm saying, new spot coming, Yeah, you know, and uh you know, yeah, I'm doing my thing. Yeah. But it's dope to see what you're doing, Bro, And I think, like, real shit, this guy's the limit. Dog. You just gotta

fucking keep doing your thing, keep pressing your line. Oh bro, I got especially for this year, I got so many things were about to do. Yeah. Is it like weird going out in public and getting recognized for just being like a guy who talks shit now honestly like that shit. Yeah? Yeah, you know it like it really it really gets me when I see like a mom don't know who I am, and it's like her. Her three teenagers run to me, Hey, d hey, hey, how you doing a mom clean? They're like, okay,

you must be somebody you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's a beautiful thing. Man. Well listen, I appreciate you for pulling up. Bro. Makes you go follow my guy. Go watch her at the end of the day. Go watch at the end of the community. Watch we hungry, Watch community, watch a back on fit, Watch as boys worldwide, watch ladies night. You know we're building all this shuff ladies, not his punching on tuesdays. Man, So shout out to Barbie, Shout out to Illa. Shout then, who had the fucking

Zoom Strip Club? Going up to room pandemic? I remember I got in once and I was like, whoa, did you go to the Zoom Strip Club? No, you wouldn't you know. He wouldn't know. He wouldn't only if it was men. You know, it's crazy. He told me one time, you guys always want to eat with women. No one wants to eat with me. My God, appreciate your better man. Appreciate it, Bro. You already know Boom