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Interview w/ Desiigner on the Bootleg Kev Podcast.

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Boulet Cat Podcast. We got a special guest in here, my guy designer. What's goody? What's goodie? Big cat? What's that? Man? How you been? Bro? Everything's thirty, Everything's thirty. Man. You for me putting out music? Man? Just keep going, staying focused, staying in the high. You know what I mean? You know now out of trouble you had obviously, Man, when P and B passed away, did that hits you hard? It hit me hard? Man. He used to record here.

He's been on my show many times. And I felt like for a while there like you kind of might have been done with music man. Yeah, they had want to Uh, I wind up hitting me man, I had wound up losing like three friends in a month and all that's your big cat word. It just like you know what I mean? Hit me Right after the session. I was just recording you know what I mean on our journey, you know what I'm saying. And then my boy I just called him like, yo, Bro, I love you.

Uh you feel what I'm saying. It was just like word, man, we need more love for me. We just lost tape. Yeah, and it just was it was bad, man. It was bad to hear that ship for me, So I wound up, you know what I mean, just before me slamming it all out for me, I had nobody there to talk to at that moment, so I just let it all out, you know what I mean, just rebirth myself. You know what I'm saying or what I would have to say. How do you feel mentally now? Like are you It

feels like you're back. You got your head back in the game on the wrap ship. I appreciate it. I get word. It feels amazing. Word man, I feel like that was you know tape PMB and my boy. You know what I mean, I take you passed away in the hood. Just they just you know what I mean, lose it to industry friends, you know what I mean, just really just then they just gave me like oohs bro to just keep going, bro like, don't give up.

You know what I'm saying, Like I feel like none of them will want me to ever give up, you know what I'm saying. On what I put my you know, my fits that the stone to do, you know what I mean, what I really wanted to do and this keep focused on what we're doing and touching the people and giving them the energy spider of the messages and knowledge and just love. You know what I'm saying, keep

going for me. Yeah, you were talking earlier when you came in to you you fuck with psychodulcts pretty heavily. You did, yes, sir, big my boy all the way. So you say you've done d MT. Yeah whatever, what was that like? Man? It was yo, Man, amazing words. That's it's hard to express express right like, yeah, you think what I'm saying, but it's uh, it's it's it's it's it's lovely. Man. It puts you on so much

of a highest surface, you know what I'm saying. And when you can see life front the back, you know what I mean, and just like what they say. Last fifteen minutes, you know what I mean, and it felt like you did for a lifetime. You for me, you feel like you see life now after the journey. It's way more like and a higher frequency. You know what I'm saying, like thinking bigger. You fe what I'm saying, way larger, like you know what I mean. Even the

words you're using. It's careful you for me, You're more careful with certain things. Yeah, word, just understanding. It's an ultra power installed. You know what I mean, Wars, How long ago did you first try it? Suit? Uh? Suit Like I tried my first one, but I had the pen depends not the same, right, Yeah, I had depend and then have wine up coming home. Because what happened was I did in Atlanta. My boy had wind up giving it to me. Youfore I'm saying out there we

were chilling out there. It was vibs. You know what I'm saying. There was vibs, and I was just like kicking back. I was like, can when I get to l A, I'm gonna do this the right way. You know what I'm saying? Heavyweight? Yeah, everywhere crazy root, it's crazy, crazy stroom. And it took me you know what I mean, to me on my body. And then from there, I just was seeing the galaxy being and you know what I'm saying, I'm in the galaxy. I've seen the land

of fire. You know what I'm saying. Word like, you know what I mean, nothing but perception, no legs, no nothing for me, but just seeing the being and like it's just like word this the sole presence. I didn't see like the beans that was like black aura. But I mean black but white aura around them. Bro. For me, it was wavy bro before. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying. So it's like, so I've not I haven't done DMT. I've done shrooms

heavy and I've had some pretty deep trips. I heard d m T like you're not the same you see you kind of like come out on the other side of it. I've had like people I know say that they like were atheists prior to that, and then they do DMT and they're like, no, there's a god like I saw him. I felt that energy. I felt that presence of higher power up. That's why I locked with your eyes man, because I feel like, you know what I'm saying. Word man? What up? So how often are

you shrewman? You microdosing man? Definitely, Bro, just like yo, anytime, like anytime I really like get my chance and I feel a vibe too, I'm really into. But I'll be doing them more than often. Like I just gave it like probably four days off just now five because you were just micro doesn't have a productive day, right, Yeah, what up? What up? That's when Johnny, of the time I'll be doing I'm microdosing. You know what I'm saying. If I'm moving through the day, then when I get

back to the crib, you know, I man like five man. Yeah, man, take it up. That's fire man. Recently you went online because there was this discussion about Kodak Black Verse twenty one savage and you're freshman covered now you had something to say about that because you do have a I mean, panda's a fun and how many times platinum? Oh man, it's diamond eight times platinum. Wow, eight times platinum in the US. That's so crazy. What up, y'all? We got

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I mean? And I was going to ask you, like, do you feel like you somehow? Because I feel like you're overlooked in terms of that freshman class, because you know, your freestyle was so legendary that you had to make a record off Timmy Turner, shit turn into a record, you know what I mean. I don't think anybody else had a freshman freestyle that turned into an actual song. Yeah it's love man, Honestly, rob me. I was banging

on the fridge. I've brung that, you know what I mean, that talent from the you know what I mean, the neighborhood. I was in the back of clubs, Timmy, Timmy, timoth Tana, Yeah, hish forbon is doing that in the back your clubs and everywhere it was going. It was like, yo, bro, what's that? So it was like that day. It was that moment that time. I was just like, yeah, I'm a bust right here. You know what I'm saying. I already knew it and then turned into a record. Yeah

you know what I'm saying. But I'll be like working on my shirt, you know what i mean, saying in front of the people always I'm always good with the performance. Man, ain't gonna lie you put me anywhere with the performance

with that, trust me. I've seen it man, the way you throw the mic up and I saw you real ninety two three, we had a show on like twenty seventeen, I think, and then afterwards you did the after party at Playhouse and you were fucking lip my boy loo you were you was doing shit with the mic, and I was just so impressed because most people would drop it, bust their lip. You had all kinds of rock star ship going. Yeah, I appreciate it. Burn up love Love, Yeah,

your life show is insane, bro, for sure? For sure? What is something? Because you know, I feel like you kind of had like a rough shake in terms of like the music industry kind of ending up over with Kanye. I feel like you were kind of mishandled, you know, respectfully. Do you feel like you like, what did you learn from your previous label situation that you're you can apply to your career now? Really just uh well that's a

great question, bro. I love that question. Bird. What I'm moving with now is just really just like just a team, you know what I mean. Just you know what I'm saying, like word, you know what I mean, respectfully, you know what I mean to not no offensive other team that I was with, former team I was with, but just the team love. You know what I'm saying. It's more of a like compassion. It's more of it like we talk together morning as they checking in. You fee what

I'm saying. It's bigger than just music with them, You know what I mean. It's a family. You know what I mean. And that's what I got right now. You know what I mean with my new situation with Riverton Andrews Scott and listen, you know what I'm saying, Like we moving and it's just that love is that, Yo, We're going We're going to the top of getting bigger and bigger. What do you got in the chamber right now? Music wise? You got a project coming or you're dropping

obviously you're dropping singles and stuff. What's next? Word? Honestly, man, we got a new album we're working on right now. You know what I'm saying. Called You know what I mean. I'm start I'm gonna start off with what's coming out tonight. Though. You think what I'm saying bigger and bigger. You fe what I'm saying. Word, Make sure y'all tuned in. It's wavy. You pon me Triumphy, you phone me the vibes some of my favorite instruments in the world. Yeah, we're going up.

We're going up. And then I got you. Fee what I'm saying the vibe of the album for me. Word you know what I mean? The album is coming up new color for me. Word, it's the name of the album, new color, New color. I like that? Or what's that mean? Oh man? It's just I'm the wing I see things nowadays, big broke, like you feel I'm saying like it's like through through a new lens. You fel me? You know what I mean. So it's it's seeing and reaching for new color. You fee what I'm saying. So observed and

love of color. You know what I mean? The God with God creating is you know what I mean? The vibe but just the a one. You fe what I'm saying. Word Star Wars vibes. I know Star Wars. Yo. Another situation that you were a part of earlier this year that kind of a viral, was you and EStG kind of have like a public spat because you didn't like that he was going to charge you. I think it was fifty k for a verse, right, oh man, seventy five seventy five christ I remember that number of all time.

But yeah, but you had called him out, like I think a lot of people were kind of critical of you because they're like Hey, well he doesn't know you this what he charges like. It is what it is. But you guys kind of got past that. Liked Was there anything you took from that situation? Really? You know what I mean? I had to really come with artists, you know what I mean nowadays with the new artists, I guess with like features and stuff, because you know, look, I was I was the dude in the game. You

knowee what I'm saying. I ain't the number one Diamond records. Like we going up man connext to Kanye West. We were selling out arenas we're doing We're doing things. I wasn't really charging people like that. You were doing ship like a lot on the strength to be fun with them if you love you know what I mean, Like we seeing each other. I'm a fan of you all, Like I see your work, Yo, let's put something together. We just on the planet and this is the hip

hop culture of just making music. So I think, you know, just the supporters outside, you know, they like to see like collaborations. Yeah, and I just was trying to put something together, so you know what I mean. Where that's all? Yeah, Yo, Obviously coming into the game with the song like Panda I want to say, Drew Ski put me onto that record, my boy shout out. He had to be one of the first guys Towns and the Ray drew Ski, you know,

Bobby trans shake the block. Yeah, but it's crazy because that record was like such a movement out of New York City, right, and then you end up on good music. The version of that song ends up on you know, The Life of Pablo, which is one of my favorite Ya albums. When did you first, like initially find out Yay was going to use part of Panda on the Life of Pablo. Oh Man, Like, bro, when we was over there in the city and be driving, we just came you know, it's eleven label bit and will be

going crazy. Everyone's trying to sign you yo, everybody yo on tables up, going crazy, being a taxi cat all. He gets a call like, Yoya, you want to do something with the record? You know what I'm saying now? My Lloyd He like, hey, y know, I think you want to do something with the ad libs like you forel me like you want through the dollar? You even think you want to long story short, he like to let's fly out to la He tell us to pack up go to l A. We go off there, y'all. Bro,

I'm over there like that whole day. You fee what I'm saying, like something. You're just pulling up, you know, y'all see us chomping out the car. He just in the car. You just had the record right there for us, like you for me, like yo, you like this like all right, bet, that's the fire. You feel what I'm saying. At first, you know what I mean? And I thought he was gonna go longer. I ain't know, like you know what I mean, he just is gonna put like you know, he just put like probably like six bars

on it, you know what I'm saying. So I ain't. I ain't like, you know, I thought Bro was gonna he was just like I'm gonna let you go crazy, Bro, And I was like that's fire or and then he was like I'm on my way out. He was. That's what he was messing with, Keim. He just dip dark for me and then you ended up signing was good. Yeah after that, you knowee what I'm saying. Word that night, you know what I mean. We was in the studio, me and him, Mike Dean. We was over there all

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were many people try to sign Man. Even you chose Kanye probably over everybody because at that time that record was so bad, I mean you know what I mean, Like it was different. Well, and obviously there was like the highs of the good music situation, but obviously they were the lows. And that's not just for you as an artist. There's a lot of artists that were all good that, like, you know, probably deserve more attention. Word, you fell what I'm saying it was it was a

lot of people that were trying to sign me. And the reason why I'm saying that, you know what I mean, because you know some artists that's you know, other artists that you try to sign me as well. You know what I'm saying, Well, yeah, just as you know who else trying to sign you that like, who is the closest besides ya that you were that you were looking at in terms of just like potentially signing with other artists, other artists ross mmg, the artists, anybody out of New York,

bad boy, I ain't gonna lie shign up French. Oh, Cooke boys, Cooke boys. That would have been crazy. And that was real. You know that ship for real? For real? Bro, every time I see you, it's a movie, man, that's movie. And that's the reason. It was a couple of artists, you know what I mean. Or it's a couple of artists. Though my boy, French ain't gonna say all the artists, but no, that's the French. Yeah, French. French is a

great ceo too, man him. Recipes of Chinks say it's dope too, man, because I feel like you're in a really rare position where you know, a lot of people might have had your journey in this music industry and like been discouraged or allowed it to Like I'm sure at times it was like mentally taxing for you, but it feels like, man, you're coming out on the other side of like this shit. I'm pret sure know what

I'm saying. Yeah, do you feel like musically you're in the best space you've been in a long time in terms of just being creative and there were definitely being able to be zone them with myself, you know what I'm saying, Like I had, I was in a relationship and ship. You fel what I'm saying, just got off that situation positive or negative, toxic not toxic for Shawn Rock Blueface type of shit, but it you know what I mean. You know I had to you know, I

had to just get my vibes. I felt like I had to gain myself, you know what I'm saying, Like word, you know, just had to really sad myself, man, and just build up pandemic. It was just a little different, you know what I'm saying. I felt like I was doing my I was seeing myself in the same cycle. That's for me and Shorty like kind of like separated at that time, you feel me, it wasn't as close as much. So it was just like, you know, she on the East coast, I'm on the West coast, right,

I'm out here. I'm building the crib out, you know what I'm saying, doing shit with crib. So I just was like more alone, if I'm saying to myself. And then from that, you know what i mean, flights all that stuff, COVID people being separated, and it's like, you know what I mean, we just became like more like this, listen, you know what I'm saying. And then word, I feel like it was a good thing though, for real, because it changed me. Bro. That's where you know, the journey

Psychoelicy started. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It started seeing life from from small from the end, to from the plant to you know what I mean, to the way I'm eating, you know what I'm saying, To how I fix my diet, how I fixed my mom yea for me? Hey, what up y'all? We gotta stop the interview real quick to tell you about our folks at hard Dean, Las Vegas. You see them right there, you know what I mean. Shout out to hard Dan Man, Shout out to everybody over there. Stuff. It was dispensary

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Bro's buddy man. But definitely definitely had the full vegan Yeah, and you and you feel good? Yeah? What do you miss? What food do you miss the most? Though? Oh man, you know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna lie Man, you ain't gonna get me started. Man, you gonna get me started. He tried to give me back in my graveyard. Man, you mistake? What do you miss? What's the one thing? If you can have one cheap milk Oreo milkshake and Oreo milkshow Yeah, that's right, you can't have a milkshake

cause you're vegan. So my guy right there is vegetarian. So he's still he's still none not him so Cyrus vegetarians, so he still has milk and cheese and ship. Yeah, but I ain't like you know what I mean? What inspired you to be vegan? Was it like because you love animals or because it was a health thingh situation. But I was on stage with funk Fleas. You can

see it's showing me this vombing and on stage. You know what I'm saying in the middle of the show, a couple of shows like you know what I'm saying word even with listen because you were out of shape or is it were you drunk or it's you know, I noticed when I'm eating meat, it's a lot of ass overload. And if I'm doing liquor and all that shit, that ass to start building up like you know what I'm saying. Crazy? So, yeah, Like I started to notice

some moments and I just took it easy. I'll just take it easy with that ship, cause that ship be sucking me up. Even in my sleep. I was over there like waking up out of sleep like, oh, ship throwing up, throwing them up and dad ship. You know what I'm saying. Have you calmed down on drinking? What show? You know what I mean. It's a vibe. It's a creative it's a creative tool. I use it as a creative tool, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, do you feel like you've had a problem drinking? It feels like

you're drinking too much. No, that's good. That's not my vibe. You know what I mean. I know, I mean my parents are shit. They washing shit, you know what I'm saying. So and they't out that situation. You're from me, by the grace of God, you know. And word man, So I've seen that ship, young, I'm close a little bit. Hey, how long did it take after you started to pop off?

Before you hung out with Emon Trumperts? So we didn't so we didn't realize y'all were the same it was quick, right because it was he was he on the knicks at the time or was he on the calves? And it was on some yo, bro, it was it was ain't going live, bro. It was a sack man. It was a sack man. It was just like, Yo, the Internet picked up on it. I'm like, yo, damn, I do like this dough. Yeah, noboddy. Nobody said you know what I'm saying. Y'all got to take a picture together

with him and mom Duke's man. It was it was like, y'all, man, we all looked just like where I wonder because when you first came out your the future comparisons were crazy, right, did you in future ever have any interactions or any did you ever meet him or because obviously he's tighted with with ya and you know, but was that was that ever? Like, did you guys have a conversation or have any interaction? No? Man, it's crazy because when you talk,

you just sound like you. So it's kind of was that ever frustrating hearing those comparisons because you're like, I'm just I'm just me, Like, like the way you talk is how you sound when you rap, So it's not like you're trying to sound like nobody. Yeah, Bro, I don't know, bro. Yeah, I was just telling bro, here's a dude name. Do you remember Gorilla Black from Compton? Gorilla Black from Compton. So there's a guy named Guerrilla Black from Compton, Okay, and he sounds just like Biggie.

Also Shine, Remember you remember Shining when Shin first came out, but then when you would hear Shine talking interviewsday, like, that's just his voice. I remember Girla Black too. My brother in love was telling me about him when I was younger too. He was like, Yo, there's some ki nam Gorilla Black. That's your crazy. It's kind of similar that. I'm like, Yo, this is just your voice. Like, what do you want me to do you want me to like we have a similarity in voice? What you want

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a real like nature type guy. You know what I'm saying. I'm a nature boy. But like, I get a lot of my material shit from nature. So what are you doing? Like you got to the fucking force in Cana. I like the I like you know what I'm saying, Like octopuses ship You know what I'm saying, Like, did you see you like to watch octopus? Octopus? You ever see that the octopus escape the boat? Yo? Man, octopus are like alien life for them. They're so smart. Yo. You

think what I'm saying. You for me, my mom? You just on other creatures and like should be watching like YouTube videos of wells and ship you for me. I had a dream I was with a well word up out of our of the well that it was crazy actual well actually not a BBW, just the actual well. You know what I'm I had a couple of those two, you know. So the album is called New Color. Yeah, new Color, New Color, bro new Color. New song out. By the time they watch this, the song will be out. Yeah. Man,

you think I'm saying word? You know what I mean? Big and Bugger were going crazy. I already know the whole world. I sat in the record, chin in in the record. Y'all know we're coming. We're going bigger and bigger. Man. Uh, any collet as on the album. Definitely, Bro, we got some collapse. But what I'm saying, you know what I mean, I want to I want to drop some you know what I mean. But for me, I think we're gonna we're gonna, were gonna, you know what I mean, some features.

For me, we'll wait. We'll wait until you release the track listing you did. Is it potentially possible that you have the best ad libs of all time? You think I'm saying I appreciate that shit because I didn't say you did. I said it's possible. You definitely top five. It's like designers, it's U g Z. Who else got the crazy ad libs? I just think of the mios Manos. Oh yeah, the Migos are up there for sure. But

you got dude for a while there. But I think when I first saw you in person, I was just like, this guy is the most interjetting, like a fucking pro wrestler. I appreciate it. Bro, w WB man, you already know all that ship. I wonder as somebody who was at a point in time close with the A his current ship that's happening. It's very disappointing. How do you feel about kind of what's been going on with him. I feel like you're just trying to be heard a little bit,

you know what I'm saying. At the same time, you know, you know, but hey man, I'm gonna be easy with this because it's a it's a strong topic. Yeah, it's something you you don't want to say the wrong thing. You got a tight rope it. Yeah, so you know what I mean, Like you forel me like, well, bro, you feel me like you didn't see any you didn't see any of that side of him tho when you were working with him obviously, Like you know what I mean, Like yas more to hisself. You know what I'm saying.

I tried to get even more to yourself. You know what I'm saying. So you know what I mean. Yeah, here's that man. Well look new color coming soon from the top of the year, Thank you, brother, Uh top of the year, y'all know the Vibes twenty twenty three, it's a movie. Anything else you got anything else going on you to promote besides the music? Uh? Sid man Son more than life. I just want to promote more life to the world, you know what I'm saying. And

even about the situation. Yeah I could. I could say this about it. We all brothers, Yeah, we're all sisters. Get it along. You know what I'm saying. Stay strong, live long For me, that's the goal for me. We put together, we create together, and we build together. With no building, then it's destroying. Remember that, So just stay on that. For me, it's only two sides. You could

play build and destroy. So Boom designer with some gems stand the interview, boom my guy, appreciate you better, Yes, sir Fire

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