Staboule Cap Podcast Special guests in here, Sally Rupe, my boy, welcome. What's going on? What's going on? Man? Chilling? Chilling? Well? First of all, for people who don't know where are you from, how long you've been rapping? You've obviously been doing your thing for a very long time, a long time. I'm from East Sacramento, Lincoln Village out there in Rancho. I've been rapping since I was fifteen. I'm thirty two
right now. So you've been at it. We get you closer to the mic if you don't money please, So yeah, shit, that's seventeen years of rapping, Yeah, for sure. And I was rapping before that, but that's when I first recorded, right I got I've been rapp trying to rap like my whole life. Real, What do you remember like when you first kind of realized you could kind of make a living off of rap music or like get some serious money doing this shit. Not until I'm at MAZI.
When was that? That was about twelve years ago? Now, what was that was that prior to him getting because there's the time he got locked up and then when he got like every time I talk like we've talked like he's like, Yo, there was a time he went to prison and it really kind of like made him readjust the way he thought about his music career before that. Okay, so it was before that. Yeah, so he was he
was gonna buy his other name little too. So once you guys linked up, what was the difference in terms of like ht me to uh with the CD baby ship. I never I just was putting myself on hulk chair, just on the on the fucking download site. Is he sharing shall Yeah, all that type of ship. And by then he told me how to do the CD baby ship. Yeah, because CD baby was kind of like the O G version of like what Empire does. Now, what's you know, It's like a way to get your ship distribute. Yeah,
I just gotta check on the other day. But yeah, that's what I was fucking with. I did that. I did the little CD Baby. I made my first little three hundred. That was a lot because I'd never been no of course, so I'm like, oh shit, So I was really that made me just start dropping shit more on it, build my little shit up over the time. I was going to say, like, that's one thing that I think that like Mazi has done successfully over the years.
It's just like build up an independent catalog for sure, whether it's like doing random collab projects with like a gunplay or a burner or whatever it is, but just continuing to just rack up catalogs. That's something that you kind of also took from him, for sure. Yeah, I've been I was dropping hell of projects like that, but I'd be trying to I'd be trying to keep up at the same time, but he'd be moving. He was moving too fast at the time. Yeah. So, and I was going in and out of jail, so I was
I was held back by that too. Yeah. I saw on Instagram you said that you had been on probation. You got off in twenty twenty, but you were on probation since you were twelve years old. Yeah, because you know, for you at juvenile you go to jail for anything, you'd be out out the curfew, you go to jail violation. Like every time you go to jail, you start your
shit over. So I never got my shit right until I got so the whole time, just every time you get hit for some random shit, they would just be like reset anything, and then I get a gun case, you know, shit that makes sense. I get a gun case. Back then, we charges just a little certain shit like that,
and it just keeps starting over, starting over. I think the last time I went to the county was like two thousand and fourteen, probably fifteen or fourteen, because how long was were you originally supposed to be on papers? I think the first time when I was twelve was like three years or five years. What did you do at twelve to get you off? Oh? At twelve years old, I was in a stolen car. Were you driving the strolling car? I don't know how to drive. I stole it,
but I ain't I wasn't driving. I don't know how to drive at the time. He had an interesting sixth grade year. That was crazy. Man, I lost my virginity at nine? Howard was the girl? She was fifteen? Okay, I like I was thirteen. So you lost your virginity at nine years old? You get arrested for stealing a car and having a gun. You're at twelve? My goodness, man, that suits this. Do you do you have? You? Do you still like see the girl? You lost your virginity?
You online? Ever? Yeah, I've seen her on there? How she looked now? She doesn't looked like my type of girl. Yeah, it's funny because like I'll see, like when I was like eleven or twelve, like people had crushes on when I was a kid, and then like they pop up on Facebook and I'm like, fuck, if I see anybody a crush on, unless they lost it, they still like they's still good, they still look good. Not me, man, These bitches I was fucking with in Arizona had thirty kids.
It's only got of course, not just when I was like a little kid. Man, there was always like like my like family friends, like my dad's bosses. Daughter I used to like, and like now she's just like she's ran. It's bad. And when you're a kid, though, you only you like what you're accessible to. Facts. You don't know nothing about all these other people. You know, your daughter's i mean your friends daughter or your dad's friends daughter. Right, that's all you know. So you don't know what looks
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So when you're fucking at nine, how long you last? Bro? It didn't last long because my brother walked in. I gonna say, you are you? Like, did you you? Did you finish? No? I I am. She kept saying, don't come, don't come, I amn't. I don't even know what come. At the time, I'm like, shit, did she have to like kind of show you what to do? No? No, you knew. I was watching Porno Jesus Christ just nine,
just fucking you were watching VHS tapes for sure. Dv Yeah, Booty Talk, Boody Talking number seventy eight starring fucking Pinky or fucking Pinky. Pinky was after, Yeah, I'm about to say Pinky was definitely after back then. I don't even know. That's like, you know who was the what was the girl's name, the o g U Heather Hunter? Do you remember her? She was like that, so familiar, but I don't know the names like that. I know Pinky for sure, but yeah, Pinky's she's also a min Yeah, I think
she's a do before she short. Yeah, she's a dwarf. She's somebody who the years haven't been great too either. I just saw her recently. Jesus Christ. Uh so you you fucking nine. You don't finish your friend? Your friend or your cousin interrupts? Who interrupted? Brother? Your brother interruption set it up? Did he come in and finish the job? No? No, she was. She was. It's funny though, because, uh, he was in middle school. I was in elementary, but I didn't go to school. I was at my dad's house
for today. He told me to come walk up to school pick him up because it was down the streets. Yeah. I wanted to pick him up. And he's like, all the girls gonna like you. So when they say, oh, he's so cute, see brother, and I'm like, yeah, they're like, how old is he? I'm thirteen. I go to Eronsteence to school that I ended up going to, right but I knew but you went in there yet? Yeah. Yeah, so I'm like I go to Eronstein from thirteen and I was like, oh, he's so cute. Summers come, it's
summer come that one of the girls come over. Every day we played truth deer ah. Yeah. So started off touching, started off. Each day got more crazier, and the last day was fucked last day, my brother. She went to the bathroom. My brother like, if I you want me to Jared to fuck you? I'm like yeah. And at the time he aversion too. He's six years older than me. Right, everything he my dad never let him leave the house
without me. So everything he learned for the first time, he did for the first time, I did, right, So he like, I'm a derre to fucking. I'm all right. She came back and he's like, if I dare you fuck myself? Willie. She's like, yeah, he's there. She's like, all right, we're going along. She she had to have been around the block a little huh aft. She probably was yeah, no, give me the nine year old. She
didn't know. Did she ever find out? Now? Let me tell you though, it's crazy because then, uh, she don't know. Now she never found out. But after that, my brother walk in like not even long, like ten seconds down there, like not long, but you got in there, I got in. There's a few pumps. Yeah, damn, my brother walking. She's like, I'm done. She put her ship on. He trying he
was trying to do this ship. She's like, nah, I like your brother he telling me to go he telling me to go get one of our friends that live around the corner, and he just was over here. His mom has picked him up. He was he said he was grounded. So I know he's bullshiting and I'm like grounded. He like, no, he said, he said come get him. So I go outside, act like I leave, come in and sit by the I'm listening. He's like, you know, you're just a fucked a nine year old, right. I
was like, oh this niggah. So I walk out. I mean I opened the door. I sait for a minute, go out, act like you're coming in. I come in and shit And she's like, yeah, I'm finna go home. Like all right, She's like you're trying to walk me home? Like yeah, I walked her home. She's like, brother said your nyes you know, Like nah, he's just mad because you won't let him. And she's like, I thought that's what it was. Wow, now she's gonna know. Now she
knows that your brother was telling the truth. Yeah for sure. Okay, so you're obviously a badass kid for sure. That was bad for sure for sure. What were you wrapped up in at twelve where you had a gun on you? And like, did you were you with older people? Yeah? Yeah, everybody was. Everybody I hung out with was three to five years older. Okay, everybody. So when I was twelve, they was fifteen seventeen. So when you get arrested at twelve, do your parents like do they they find out? Like
what the chargers aren't? Like? How do they feel about that? I mean, you know they mad that ship, but it's like, what you're gonna do. You're gonna dis on me, right, you got you gotta accept it. Yeah, So, I mean they try to different different things, try to keep me in the house, try to move me certain places. Right, I find my way right back to the neighborhood. Right.
So they didn't really do anything. And then I'll end up living with my grandparents and they older, so you know they're not you could pull some shitat them little smoother. Yeah yeah. Damn So twelve to thirty is that what you're on probation for sure? Damn Yo? What apps? Bootleg keV gotta interrupt the interview. Shout out to our good friends at Blue Chee. It is cuffing season. It's getting cold as a bit outside right now, and you could
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What the fuck? For sure? That shit is wild, bro, that's crazy because, like I know, like probation obviously is better than being in jail, but at the same time, it's like it's just a nice way to try to keep you a part of the system. It's easy to keep you do anything, yeah, anything we don't like, but make it justified to all right, well then you didn't break that law, but you violated probation. So when did you like finally say, Okay, enoughs enough. I gotta stop
fucking around. I gotta put a seatbelt on, I gotta get some car insurance, I gotta stop fucking you know, giving them excuses and give my license. So just recently, not that a few years ago. So wait, I was driving a year's license, just riding dirty writ and dirty. That was the same way for a long time, Like I would say, I probably didn't have car insurance for like up until I was like twenty eight, I ain't. Yeah,
I just never got car insurance. I'd have to get pulled over and then give me the no insurance ticket and then you have like into your courtate to prove you have insurance, and that'd be the only time I'd get it. I get rentalds, get them took, Go get another rentals buy a car, get it to buy another car, get it took. Do the rental cars have your name like flag now? No, because you know, like I never had it in my name. I always had somebody get it for me. Okay, I have license? Oh yeah, that's true.
Like how the fuck you're gonna get a rental car? No license? I had license though, like at seventeen, but they took it. They took it, and I have it for a long time. So how many different times you go to jail twelve right throughout your adult like, well from twelve to now, how many times have you been incarcerated? I mean the hall I lived in juvenile like, I never, like my whole family will say when I get when I come home, I'm on my home past when I
go back to Juni Hall, that's like your house. Because I spent my whole teenage years in Juni He was just in and out, in and out yea for dumb ships anything. But I didn't go to jail and I got older too much too much like that. I just went probably like I mean, it's a lot to a lot of people, but not to the people to me to compare the people I know, but probably like four or five times to the county. But I never I ain't never been to the pen though. Hey that's good. Yeah,
I ain't gonna lie. The juvenile Hall ship kind of it made it easier to program as an adult and know what and not to do and how to do. So you would say that like juvenile how helped helped you with a staying out of jail as an adult didn't make you a better criminal, is what you're saying. Definitely not because I never was like a criminal. I just like had guns and like I always it was like ship that is essential. Yeah, it's crazy because that California they make it so hard for you to like
protect yourself. It's Wold. It's different. It is South. They got way better gun and you are in the fucking capital. They really, they don't play paying Sacramento. I don't play at all. Definitely when it comes to any type of gang ship or anything. Do you guys get frustrated in Sacramento that like people say that people who aren't from northern California just kind of box y'all in with the Bay area. I mean back because I heard so many people like, yo, we fuck with the Bay man, I
fuck with Mazi, and I'm like, mad, he's from Sacramento. Yeah, no, I always I'd be the one that correct people most of the time. But I don't get irritated or nothing, because it's we're real close to this, the northern cal We all want as far as the cow, but we are not the Bay. Back in the days, probably used to get feel away because you know, it's just a
little certain shit. It's like we our own shit, right, stop trying to call us the little brother, right, we our own big brother or what a big dog whatever, our own shit, right. So that's all it was back then. But over the time, shit, that's that. And then at the time that's growing up in school, never left Sacramento, never been anywhere, never met a baate a real bag
nigga unless they come from out here. But then you don't never know, so you're like, never even left Sack currently Sacramento until like Sacramento completely until I was like, because the Basic only what two hours away, right, fifteen? Yeah, but I never went to the Bay until I was like fifteen. My mom moved out there, then I went out there for her, But other than that, I never went out there either, and started going out there until
I was like seventeen eighteen. Wow, hey, Sacramentos, you know, obviously you guys are fucking killing it. And then a lot of Sweety's from Sacramento. I mean they put they put her on the Bay. They go back and forth. But yeah, I heard she went to Sacramento High School on Sacramento. Yeah, I mean, you know, shout out to Sweetish. She's lovely. Yeah. She just came into the show. Smelled great, smelled like a like a candle, a great candle. Uh. So what do you got going on right now? Man? Shit,
I'm getting ready to drop. I got my project, money, family respect from the drop. I've been working on that. I probably invested more time than money in it in terms of just like shooting videos features beats, just trying to put all the right ship together and really just taking my time with it, right, just not rushing it. Do you feel like in the past you will rush your projects. No, not really, but just one. I just really sat down and just waited. It's like, all right,
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little goofy shots a little blood. I don't forget nobody, but I think that's really it though. Oh, Millie's my boy. That's my boy. That's my fucking boy with that name. Millie's on there and t J t J three k Okay does that have to do from Detroit to be scamming? No naming from Detroit to be skimming? That's yeah, it's similar. Yeah, and I shout out to to Millies. Milli's is fire. I guess just stays with a wife beater in a pair of fresh air forces go crazy. So how first
of all, how's Mazzi doing? Man? He's obviously incarcerated. I mean I ain't really talk to him personally, but I get his messages so and to the people that he talked to. So is he like sending like texts and jail and all that? Well the legal way, right? Yeah? I mean whatever, Right, that's good man, because he's getting now he's got a year, right, Dave, Yeah, he got
too long? Yeah, it's crazy. Man, is that, like when you see someone like Mazie make that move to go to like c MG and like go under that interscope umbrella as somebody like yourself who's kind of been doing it independently this whole time, as he was for so long, does it make you kind of think, like, what if I went the major label route as well? I should? Yeah. I always been thought like I wouldn't mind doing it if it made sense, whatever makes sense for me. I'm
not really picky. I'm not really trying to do all the extra shit. Whatever makes the most sense, I fuck with that, but yeah, make the most We see so many artists nowadays, like unfortunately losing their life in like the place that they're from, right, I you know, I knew you guys have had like public disputes within the city that you want to fucking go through a YouTube rabbit holes out there. But are you pretty like uh conscientious about moving around? Like are you still in Sacramento?
I go to Sacramento a lot, but but but you left Sacramento sacrament which is the smart thing, right? Definitely, Yeah, I'll be in jail, even if even if I have no problems, I'll be in jail. Right, I think, yeah, I think that that's like where a lot of people make mistakes. They're like yo, like yeah, it's like it's okay, like you're supposed to want to kind of grow, and sure you're never gonna grow being in the same spot. Yeah.
And then like when you when I came here, it's like I come here and they got a lot going on at lice don't know who I am by name or face. They're not worried about me. They're not gonna just pull up on me. But oh that's I know, let me pull over and see what he's doing. Let me see what he got going on, and see if you got a gun on him to day. I know you usually as one. Wow. So in Sacramento, it's like, oh, I know him, probation or not, he's I know him,
he's a hype, he's a game or whatever. Right, you're gonna pull him over and just check him out. Yeah. Plus, like you also probably have to be a little bit more like I mean, you should be conscientious of your surroundings everywhere, right, but like I'm sure Sacramento is at a higher level. Definitely not even everywhere though, because like shit happens everywhere anywhere, Like you can go to the place that you think is pussy in, they gonna they
gonna prove you wrong. Ain't that the truth for sure? So yeah, anything can happen anywhere. I don't. I don't play anywhere I go nowadays. If you're let's say someone DMG right and they want to do a record, but it's dog shit, it's a terrible song, I'm doing it. What's the bag? Though? I meant, whatever my price is, I've charge four k right now, so he paid me four k. I'm gonna do it. Got awful song, though I'm not. I'm gonna do it. I ain't gonna bullshit.
I might punch in, but it's still gonna be tight. You gonna love it, and it's gonna be better, way better than anything you put on there. Just nothing, no disrespect. But you might not promote it if it's dog shit. I really don't promote too much of nothing, nothing unless it's like like my personal people. Hey, we got to stop the interview to tell you about our family at odd socks. That's right, the most comfortable socks in the
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post because I'll barely post my ship like that. Right when my job I posted, and I damn forget about it going to the next and I need to stop.
But yeah, that's what I do. Do you feel like because nowadays, like with the music industry, like you know, it's there's so much like there's just so much weird ship you got to kind of do to kind of like promote your ship now where it's like being on TikTok or you know, do you feel like any resistance like fucking with that kind of ship because it's obviously kind of a weird platform or like me, I don't. You're not on TikTok doing challenges. Nah, not even like
that though. I just the person. I'm like a dull born person. I'm not you're not listen, you're with the jail twelve. Yeah, but I was not that doll. You was sucking at nine. I look, I look like to the people that know me, what the fuck are you doing? Right? I would look, I'll be going out of my element, trying to do things that ain't right. Still sucking with the Sacramento Kings, Huh, yeah, for sure, pretty good this
year that they are going crazy right now. When you were growing up, Chris Weber was there, Vladi Devac, Mike Bibbie, he had white chocolate, Jason William Hat, Doug Christie. Yeah, we're uh, how much did y'all really because the Lakers versus Kings fucking rivalry was so insane. I'm still trilling about niggas. They fucked y'all over that that y'all should have been in the finals at least that year. For sure, we're supposed to be in the finals. Then the referees
go to jail for throwing the game. Yes, you're supposed to be in the finals. Let us run that bet. Tim Donna, he did the same thing with my sons. They fucked over my sons, cocksucker. Yeah, do you like tapping with like obviously, I know some of the guys on the Grizzlies were like tapping with some of the local artists. Like, are you guys tapping with any of
the guys on the Kings these days? Not personally, I'm pretty sure Bros and Ship, But no, I ain't really who was like the most, like when you were coming up, like marsh Marshawn Lynch what I didn't even finish my question. I just felt like I was gonna say, I was just gonna say, who was, Like, was there anybody like as you you guys were coming up that like was really tapped in with with the city in terms of
the hip hop scene and ship. It doesn't have to be someone on the team now, but just it could be back in the day. It could be when he was coming up. Yeah, Like was it z Bo Maybe Sea Webb making terrible beats? No, Chris Webber has some of the worst fucking production of all time. I can't
thank of nobody like that was big. Yeah, that was like No, I can personally say it might be somebody else that he was was, but me, I don't know nobody big person that was fucking with Underground none of that, right, yeah, no, the Underground. I mean that's crazy because like that scene and has always been there in Sacramento, Like back in the day when I was growing up, it was like fucking brother lygious from there, right yeah, Yeah, was x
Rated from there? Yeah, some mut taking around, right, Yeah, shout out to ax Rated. You got out of jail, and I think he's on Strange Music now SA Tech. Now, all right, so you got this new album coming. Is there anything else that you got going on? Man? You want to talk about ship? I mean ship? I just be chilling, man, you just be chilling, chilling. Man. I ain't got nothing specific on the spot right right now.
If you would have told me, I could have came with a list and wrote down it's okay, man, next time we gotta we need a verse. Yeah, I'm gonna come with the verse because like you would have had me prepared, you would have told me, I ain't gonna lie. We got Usually I usually take the rat. I'm blame day with this time because I asked him, I said, do you want me to come with the verse? And he's like, oh, I don't know, maybe just an interview.
You know what happened. Dave O got Bougie, he got the Veneers, he got the he got all the houses and ship. Now this I remember when I met a big different guy. Anyway, Look, I appreciate you pulling up. Appreciate it, yes, sir, selling rude boy boom