#249 - 6am

I was fucking shrooming. I was just out there last week with Wiz, not a Dre. I didn't go to Dre's some Spearman Rhino. How was that? It was the Spearman Rhino. It's a great establishment, like a good hot classic establishing, right, classic. We're rowing the institutions. They do have good wings. Were you there last week? Oh we didn't. Oh you were there, and that's where you disappeared, was to get wings. Who did you disappear with? Baby Joe? That's right, Yeah, you got me out of there. I

got the funk out of there. I was fucking the eighth and mushrooms. I can't eat on shrooms. I can't eat on shoom Yeah, yeah that's mine. That's fine. You can. You can move that. There's like ten thousand dollars worth the basketball cards in there, though. To be careful wings for like, it probably took a hour. It takes it takes forever to get wings. I was like blackout, drunk on shrooms. Hey, I was shrewd. Oh fuck? So, like, uhl was there Ron, and what's the Samam? Sam was

fucked up. I'm like, why are we letting him be here? Fucked up? Then I went to my room and puked everywhere. Oh fuck, Yeah, dude, we're good. Brow bleck Cap Podcast Special guests six am, Yes, why not seven am? I don't know. Bro, Uh I got that name from Whiz. Actually that's a good name. Yeah, Bro, we were just in the studio one day, you know, one night, one day, whatever the hell you call it. It was actually six am. You know. I kept repeating it in this song over

and over again. He was just like, Bro. As soon as I walked out the booth, He's like, bro, you're six am, right? I just I ran with it since then. Yeah, so before you were six am? Yeah, you were in a group called OSBS. I still am in a group called OSBS. We're just you know, doing your own taken a little break for a little bit. Yeah, my bro OSBS. Obviously you guys have some dope records. You went on tour with was a thug uh gunna and wi yeah,

isn't gonna what? And the music you guys are making was a lot more different than the music you're currently making, Oh for sure. Yeah. I felt like the music that we were making was it was like dope music, you know what I mean. But I think the I think the main thing between then and now is just me like knowing myself as an artist. I'm not like trying to like just like make a song. I'm just making songs that I like, you know what I mean. Like

I'm making songs organic. Yeah, it's geared towards me. I'm not really trying to be like I'm not I'm not. I don't really want to talk about the same things. Yeah, you know how it is when you when you when you first start out, you know what I mean. Like I was kind of trying to like find myself and then like try to find who I was as an artist after that, you know, what I mean, So like it kind of took a while for me to be like, Okay, I don't want to talk about cars. I don't want

to talk about money like that. I want to talk about hitting licks and sly. It just like I don't know, it just wasn't like it wasn't it wasn't the same for me. After a while. I think we were on tour and like Denver or something, honestly, and I took fucking DMT and like, once I took that DMT was like a whole switch, like and my whole body just changed like instantly, and I just like saw things way differently,

like almost instantly. But it was fucking crazy. Well, DMT is a serious psychedelic Oh yeah, it's that you smoke Rogers drug. Yeah did you smoke it? Yeah? I did free Base. Uh no, we smoked it out of a fucking apple. Actually, you smoked DMT out of an apple? Yeah, we smoked DMT out of an apple. It was like, what's hell a weird? And I can't imagine that the best way to smoke it. No, I don't think it is.

But like, uh, I don't know, how do you even like It's like it's like a white kind of like it's likes which I don't funk with, you know what I mean? It looks like some And then the way you're actually supposed to smoke it is supposed to free base it. Yeah, that's I'm not with that ship, you know what I mean. That's you're supposed to know. But you're like, give me the apple, Yeah, I'll take That's

that's chill. So basically we did put like weed on the bottom and put like a layer of like d m T in the middle, like a little like a hamburger, you know what I mean. You put like a layer of weed on top, so you use the weed on top to like burn through to the d MT, so you're not actually going to touch the fire to like the The actually sounds like you know what I mean. Yeah, it sounds like you should try to smoke d MT again. No, well I did like eighty times. That's why I'm like

this now, you know what I mean? So, like, have you smoked it the right way? Yet? Yes? I have, so you have. No, that's not the right way. I wouldn't consider that the right way. What do you think is the right way? I think out of a wood pipe is the correct way to do it. From what I've heard. I've never heard anybody even talking about like freebasing, freebasing anything into a U. Right now, you have free based the DM man, I get the fucking You're supposed to smoke it out of a crack pipe. Get the

fuck out of here, bro, for sure? OKAV where did you hear this from everybody in my entire life that does it? They smoke it out of a crack pipe because it's the most purest way to hit it. I've bean serious. I don't know about that, bro, Honestly, when you have have like the actual toad sweat or whatever from the fucking frog, right and it's like, yeah, yeah, so that ship you're supposed to Actually I've never smoked that. I've only smoked like the like the what's it called

tree bark? So tree bark. What's the craziest thing you've seen on a d MT trip? Instantly, bro, Like the first time I I did d MT, it was me feezy and my cousin, and then my cousin did it first, and he just like laid back quietly and he just got actually quiet, and he went away for what twenty minutes or so right now. It was like two three minutes, and I'm like, bro, what the fuck? And he's like s So, me and uh Feasy're both like what the

fuck is going on? And he comes out of it after like two or three minutes and just like sits up and there's tears coming down his face, like literally, like they're just like two little, two little tears just dripping down the side of his face. And he's like, bro, like you don't understand. He's like he's like the aliens are here and it's okay, and I'm like, what the fuck? So you give me somebody? No Instantly, I'm like, all right,

let me try that. So I hit it, and honestly, bro, like the whole room just got like quiet, Like the whole room got quiet, and I was still one hundred percent present and like mentally in the in the moment, like I knew I had just hit DMT and there was no high involved, like change whatsoever. But like it's like I unlocked and hold another convension. I was still completely sobering in my mind and able to understand exactly

what was going on. There's basically just like little fucking aliens popping out from behind like random ass shapes, being like like we're here, but don't don't tell anybody type shit. I know this sounds absolutely insane, but it actually doesn't because I mean, if you, I mean, it doesn't sound that crazy. It's pretty intense, bro, So like, is that the most intense though, because I've heard people like go away in the world is uh salvia? I mean no, I mean, like for you, it was that the most

intense experience you had on DMT. Oh yeah, but it's nothing compared to to salvia whatsoever? What the fuck is that? Bro? Are you serious right now? Is salvia legal? It's legal. They they sell that fucking smoke shops like spice. Dude. It's the strongest fucking thing I've It's the worst possible experience you can ever have. Bro. Like I was eighteen years old my first week of college, I was on my homies, like buck bit here like a bunk bed

iness room. It was like a bunk for him, like his like dogs slept on top so some shit like that. So the dog's on top of the bed and I fucking hit this ship and I'm looking into like a mirror in his room. The whole room turns into uh to. As soon as I exhaled, the whole room turned into like mirrors, like a million of them. I'm fucking stuck in this room, locked in as like an over over overwhelming,

like dread fucking feeling. And I stand up as fast as I can to try to escape, and all of a sudden, just feel something warm like dripping down my head, bro, And I'm like, what the fuck? I snapped out of it outter like two minutes, and my Homie's like, Bro,

what the fuck you okay, you're okay? I look, I look, bro, and there's fucking like blood dripping down from my eyebrow onto my head from where I split my fucking head upen on the buck from the from the salvia do some shit I bought from like a smoke shop, like twenty bucks, Jesus, oh my god. Worse than worst, worse than DMTDNT like change your life for positive, It did, honestly, Bro. You remember how it was before, you know? Right? You know me? Bro? I was I was a little uh.

I was a little harsh, but I was a little like gangster ship, yeah, a little bit, bro. And I feel like the d MT and just like life experience like having my kids and shit kind of like took me to a whole different place where I was like aware of the energy I'm putting into the world, and aware of the energy I'm putting into my music, you know what I mean, And like I don't I don't really want to influence people to be out here and living in a way they're not supposed to be, you

know what I mean. And like I felt the music that I make now kind of either like teaches people to deal with like certain things that they're like going through. It helps people like understand certain like emotions or feelings that they might be having, and it just kind of puts me in a different place, like karmically, you know

what I mean. Like I feel like I'm such a fucking like a drain on the energy of the world, which I feel like a lot of music that I even had to stop listening to like that just because the fucking like negative it's a lot of nay. Like It's like if you listen to something over and over again and you're subconsciously it sticks subconsciously that ship is all in your head, bro Like, even whether you recognize

it or not, it's just just not for me no more. Bro. Yeah, obviously coming from your background and you obviously have a special like perspective on LA for sure. What is like? I know LA has always been crazy, but it feels like it gets publicized more and more now, right because we always see because it's Instagram and fucking TikTok and you see in all types. But do you think it has gotten more intense since like the EDD ship drive up?

For sure? Well, let me put it like this. Ed put a lot of money in hands of people that weren't used to having a lot of money, you know, right, And they and a lot of people started living a certain lifestyle that maybe didn't put in the work to live that lifestyle and grew accustomed to going to eat at wherever they want, right, Bosanova, you know what I mean. Certain people grew accustomed to living a lifestyle and portraying a certain image that they maybe didn't know how to maintain,

you know what I mean. And so when you live and what was there like eight million people in the city, right, and I'm sure like six million of those eight million are close to the private poverty line or under it, you know what I mean? And when you highly publicizing what you be wearing and jewelry and posting your location and you know what I'm saying, Like not trying to say anybody did certain things, but but all of that kind of draws in a certain type of viewership, you

know what I mean. And when people are looking at you flexing all day and doing this and that, and you in their city and these this person struggling, this person got the baby mama hitting them up, like hey man, what's up with this child support? Or what's up with this? Or they might not have enough to pay rent. It's easy for somebody in our city to be like man, who on Instagram right now? Who over here? Who cat?

Who's outside the exactly? Bro? Like bro, you know there's like twenty spots in LA that people are actually yeah, always Like if you just hang out in front of a certain restaurants, you're like, yo, if you really wanted to get hit a lick walking out everything? You know that. You know that. And there's and I hate to say it, but people need to value themselves more than they value

their image, you know what I mean. Like, like there's a certain like there's a certain way people like to move now because of Instagram and social media and all that shit, and like you might get ahead in the uh ST terms, you know, you might get them some mores, some followers or something like that, but you're putting yourself on a whole you like, yeah, because when when you leave, you're me. You're dressed for everyone else, dress for yourself exactly.

You're trying to impress everybody, you know. But I used to fall victim to that as well, you know what I mean, Like, and I used to worry about like damn if I if I if I show up over here to go go do this show, I got to have twelve twelve motherfuckers with me and this and that because I because because I have on this chain, I got on this watch, and I want to make sure that I protect my own investment, right bro. You see now, Bro,

I don't got no jury on no nothing, bro. Like, so if you got an issue with me, you just an asshole. And you know what I mean, Like, I don't got anything you could possibly want, like yeah, anything like that. I ain't. I ain't carry around no stack, like all my cash is in my car on my account,

you know what I mean. It's unnecessary. It's not just that because I've been on the other side of it before, and I know how easy it is to to to for somebody out here to really be like, oh, I'm gonna track this motherfucker down, Like, but I know how easy it is. I mean people throw the air tags on your car like not even that, bro, Like, it's

really a very simple thing to do. Like, Bro, if you post if if somebody else posts on like a flyer or something like this person's performing at this time at this place, or they've shown up to this event or they shown up at this club. Bro, it's so easy, Like come on, bro, like's if you want to find anybody in LA that's actually out actively working, you can

get it done. It's not that I think like a lot of it too, is like because a lot of security guards are affiliated, right, do you think a lot of times like those guys are giving like tipping people off or is it usually I couldn't. I don't want to put that on the security guards like that, bro,

because it's really just people being idiots or bro. Like, if people are out in in LA, like let's just say, like you like bowling or something at pins, two hundred people then already seen you at pins then already told this person you can't really say that's what I'm saying, Like, come on, bro, like like people put themselves in a situation where they have to defend their life over over and watch. There's a time and a place for everything, you know what I mean. There's a time of place

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deposit up to one thousand dollars. Let's get back to the interview. Are you you ain't shit anyway? Yeah? I heard somebody say that recently, it's like if you took away what you're best at, right, then who lets you be? No? No, I mean like that's what I mean. Like like like people start thinking about that. Like if you like look at yourself and say, yo, my whole life revolves around what I do the best. Whatever that is, whether you're a rapper, you're a musician, maybe you're a video director,

whatever it is. What happens if you take that away? Who are you? Exactly? If you know what I mean exactly, bro? It has to be like I don't know, I feel like everybody just needs to really just be self aware more than anything. Yeah, be self aware. Bro. If if you look like food, you're gonna get it. Take yourself off that plate. Don't don't give nobody opportunity to even eat or move around for me, Like you gotta move or move right, bro, move right? You know what I'm saying.

Like some people, some people need to check in, bro, Like some people need to check in and and know how to move around, not on some shit like oh, let me check in because I'm scared of checking Yeah, let me check in so I can have the layer of the laying at people paying attention to me and telling me, oh, don't go over here. Don't go over here. It's not cool like that, like bro, like even like p and be my boy. Bro. Like he was a good, good, good dude, bro, like super good dude. Me and him

weren't super close, but we was cool. Bro. Like every time we met, it was always a hundred respect. He wasn't one of them Hollywood dudes to act like they don't know who you are after you just met last week. You feel me like he was a solid dude bro. And I wish he would have been with anybody that would have been like, Bro, don't go over there. I don't go over there. Bro, I don't go over there anybody, even though you know me, I don't go over there. Bro.

Come on, bro, Like that's not it. Bro. Yeah, it's it's interesting too because he had been here so long and been around and you know, he's been around the right people at times, and it's like you would just think he would know that. Yeah, which out the way, bro, Yeah you know what I mean. So you mentioned checking in for people who don't know. I got put on to you because Big U signed you guys. Shout out to Big Q. Great guy, somebody who's been a big

homie to me for almost ten years now. And you know what's dope about Big U is like I've never had him really ask me for anything. Brood shit, does that make sense? I think people have this this misconception about Big U, like that's what that's you just hit that on the hair right now. People got the biggest misconception about him, like that's probably the only person that

can go like joke for a joke with me. Like if I sit down with Big U, if you joked, we can roast bro for an hour and he won't stop, Like big You is really that type of human. But everyone got the wrong perception thinking that it was like this guy had me shitting bricks. I'm at Barry's and uh, it's like three in the morning, and I'm wearing a Texas Rangers hat. Oh do you know where this story going?

So listen. So I'm wearing a Texas Rangers hat. It's me and Brian Samson, my manager of the Fat Old Filipino Man, and uh, I get a text and it's like I actually just read it because I still have to still have it because this wasn't that long ago. This was not that long ago. And you know Big E's got my android number. Nobody's got this numberless you know me forever this ship was I was. I was like, what the fuck? Way, where is it at? Here? You know where it is going? Okay, here it is? He

hits me up. Okay, it's one thirty in the morning. Yeah, I'm at I'm eating right, bro west up. I'm like, what's up? Man, You're good. He's like, nothing, I've been I've been trying to reach you. I said, I'm here always. What's the word. I haven't seen any miscalls. I'm here with Brian Sampson. He said, I've been trying to reach cuss. Also tell cuz y'all need to pull up on a face to face. I'm like, the fuck. I was like, like, everything good and he put issues dot dot dot. I said,

what happened? I could call you now. He's like, man, we family pull up tonight and now I lie to him, Oh yeah, for sure, I say, where at? I'm all the way in Valencia. So I tell him I'm in Valencia, right. No, he said, why you got that tea hat on though? Don't say kid, that's what I stood up. He said, where is this motherfucker at And he stood up and he was dying. He says, he got you. I said, god damn man, you had me lying to you. Bro, he said, you had it. And what's up with a hat?

I'm like, Bro, I don't fucking know. It's blue and I like it. It's a good hat. Fuck n it's a bad hat to wear, right, Nah for sure? Yeah? So great guy, though, But how did you guys? How did he find y'all known for a while? His his his son, his oldest little you is like my best friend, and his nephew, Feasy is like my other best friends. So in other words, you have you spent some wild nights in Molly Ma's old house. Oh my god, Bro, we're not going to talk about living over talk about that, Bro,

We're not going to talk about molly ma house. Man, Jesus Christ, boy, Molly Maul's house. House that wasn't even Molly Ma's house anyway. That's legendary, huh. Bro. When I was coming out here doing weekends, I would sleep there. Bro. I remember mine. I remember that we had a crazy night take an elevator and we had like a we had like a fight outside the house. With like some crazy dude. Bro, there was like eight dreads on the floor. The next morning we woke up at Molly Ma's house.

Me and Fezy walked out, were like, damn, what the fuck is that on the floor? It was like eight dredds? Were you all ever like staying there? Because I feel like everybody I stayed there for like a week at

a time for sure, like ship like that. I never could be there for too long because you just didn't know what was gone happened at that house ever, like bro, like that was like that shit, but that she should have been recorded, Bro, you feel me, That's it's crazy because how his house was here based on house house used to be in Vegas. It's like the polar opposite. No, exactly like his old house. It was like four knocks no for sure, like you had to know somebody to

be in there. Yeah, they were. I feel like when he moved to l A, I go, like you said, you go over there and like, what kind of gangster? I had so many situations, bro, I've had so many I've had where I'm in there recording and I walk out the booth. It's like twenty people in the room after I'm like, but who the fuck is there? Everyone? Everybody extra out, got got hood task. I'm like, oh,

what type of shit is this? Bro? Like and all this upstairs Like it's okay, guys, the one I'll be downstairs in the little he's up there fucking three girls at one three insane bed. Do you ever see his bed? Brouh pause? I mean, but I've been in his bedroom pause Paul. Yeah, but his bed is like it's like it's like six California Kings like stitch together. It's so for sure. Yeah, free my brother man, great guy. That's a crazy motherfucker. Yeah. Anyway, so you you met him,

you met Big YOUU because you knew his son. Yeah, okay, you know what I mean, Like we basically all all grew up together, and Uncle Unk was always with Nip, you know what I'm saying. So, like to me, like, the only person I saw that I knew that was like successful at rap ever was Nit, you know what I'm saying. And I knew that Unk was the one that did everything for Nip, the one that got his

career started, the one that did everything for him. So in my mind, from the time I was like in high school, I was like, damn, I need to be on that type ship, you know what I mean. So Uncle Uncto me has always been like P Diddy, you know what I'm saying, Like that's how we see him in our area, you know what I'm saying. For sure, we see uncles like P Diddy like he's the way out the hood. And I always knew that, you know what I mean, Like unc is unk is the way out. Yeah,

you know what I mean. So obviously you and Nipsey are from the same area. Yeah, what is Yeah, I feel like it's hard to kind of like for people who aren't from LA to like understand, like how big of a lost Nicks. He was like and R and I kind of I mean, like, and I love Kobe, right, but I feel like Kobe Dyan hit me really hard, right, it was fucked up and hit the world hard. But I feel like Nipsey Dying hit La harder. Oh bro, that that was like, and Kobe I just lost we

ever took ever as a city him and Kobe. I would say nip number one and no for sure Kobe, But I'm just saying the numbers too crazy because I like number two. You could cut it with a fucking knife in LA. Bro Unk had people from hoods that there's certain hoods in LA that don't be around each

other no matter what. And I try to track carefully interviews because I don't really like to say, like what hood is what and all that type of shit, because you know, you know, uh, but you know, I mean, he had that day where everybody united, Bro, That's what I'm That's what I'm trying to say. Like, Bro, it's been there's hoods in LA that don't be around each other no matter what. Like it's instant smoke, you know what I mean. And Unk had everybody all in one spot,

all together, coming together for Nip. And that just goes to show you how great Nip is and how great Unk is, you know what I mean, Because like those two right there, Bro, like everybody you don't, like, everybody in South Central looked up to Nip no matter where are you from, It don't matter where the fuck you from.

Like even the people that hated Nip end up having end up having to be like damn, like that's that guy, you feel me like at the end of the day, and like, Nip just showed all of us in LA that like, man, we all could do this shit, you know what I mean, Like, we all can do this shit. And he and he and Nip was like Nip was just a whole whole different energy than most people because like he was just so so intelligent, you know what

I mean? And when when when you get that like realness with that authenticity is like it's a whole different breed, bro And not many, not many people can ever hold a candle to Nip and in uh la no matter what, just sure office fucking impact overall to everybody, you know what I mean, Like that's the goat man. So if Nipsey's passing can bring that many people together who would usually be on site with how do you keep that energy going? Does everyone just need to smoke d mt? Man,

that's the problem. But like because that's cool everyone that comes together for a day, but then what happens like two weeks later exactly? You know, honestly, we just need people that are more like Unk and Nip, like you know what I mean, Like we need more people like that that can really lead youth in a positive different direction, you know what I'm saying. Like I hate to say it, but you know, the little like what's some little dudes' names a little like the jungle Stone whatever. You know

what I'm saying, Whatever the fuck that is not it? Bro? Like that that that type of energy, that's the ship that that that hold us back, you know what I mean? And uh, I have to say, like bro, like like that type of shit is it needs to be redirected because obviously like like a lot of these kids got talent and all that, but they putting it into the wrong shit, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean I had them on come up here in freestyle and they seem like nice kids, you know, I mean they're

kids though, Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. There's like, uh, growth involved in all that. But I feel like we need like more like ogs and like not even OG's like G's like Nick, you feel me like more people need to set an example and sac this is what we're trying to push. Man, we ain't on that type time, like you know what I mean, Like more people have to speak up and stop trying to be cool and just fit in with everybody else and copy with everybody

else is doing it. Really just like be like true to themselves and say like hey, this is the type of music that we're doing. Like, like the the music culture in the LA has been changing a little bit because the artists like Blast and Bino and Cae like that, exactly, Like I feel like that's kind of that's that's also helping, you know what I mean because Aroaddi Rich it kind of sheds a different light to even like some of

the like like the one take Jays of the World. Yeah, exactly, like those guys are like not necessarily letting politics get in the way. Exactly, That's what I'm saying. And I feel like the younger kids, at least mostly I mean a lot of the younger generation of LA rap, they seem to be more united than I've seen previous generations baby,

because they're not as like heavily affiliated. And then even the artists that are, you know, like obviously there's artists that don't fuck with each I just saw the Babystone guy and the ASM Bopsic guy going back and forth

on Instagram. I'm like Jesus Christ. But yeah, I just think that, like you said, man, it takes you know, I think some of us generational, but you know, I think it takes like that's really like it's like, you know, I'm sure you got a guy like Wiz who has put his arm around you, who probably has seen your whole I ain't gonna lie, Bro, you were hanging out with him when you were on some bullshit always, I ain't gonna lie, Bro. That's that's that's my big bro.

I can't give enough thanks to him for really like Bro, Wiz like really like took my took my whole mindset and was like now, bro, like this is what you need to be on type shit like for for a while, like I ain't gonna lie. Like at first when he used to talk to me that like, oh man, like I know what I'm doing type shit. But then when I really like listen, it was him and like, uh Anne Chevy, really that like caused me to go through this little like uh, I'd already like went through a

change as a human. But like with my my music, I feel like they helped me be more comfortable with just being like true to myself, you know what I mean, being more like open and honest than my music. And uh, like you can't you can't. You can't trade that mentorship and artists like development for anything, you know what I mean like Whiz executive produced my whole project with me, spent hundreds of hours on my ship, you know, in the new project with him. Yeah, g rage. I got

like three songs on there. I got two with me Whiz and uh and p Fire. I got one with me Whiz and entire dollars sign too Fire and Uh. It's just like people like that just even giving you a fucking opportunity coming from where I come from, Bro, it's like that shit don't happen, you know what I mean. Yeah, I think a lot of people don't have that fad opportunity to have somebody like Whiz in there, like to

be like, hey, this is what you should be doing. Yeah, even not just that, like even just like calming me down and like having me like on some like a big bro like life ship, like he got me in the jim. But you remember I was getting the hell of that for like two years, bro, Like my the lean thing. Nah, I ain't said lean since like well, when I went to the pen it was two thousand and thirteen. Hey, we got to stop the interview man

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like old were you? Or how long ago? I was twenty when I went to jail, and I was twenty four when I got out. So you did four years in the state pen. Yeah, fuck, what was your if you don't mind me asking me, I got charged with three attempted murders and two armed robberies. When I first got arrested, it was only one attempt and one armed robbery, and they added two more attempts in the arm robbery.

So I ended up beating all the attempted murders. They end up finding like camera footage from across the street like six months after that that proved I didn't do shit when it came to that. So I ended up beating the attempts and ended up getting one arm arm robbery. And I'm assuming that was in your first time you ever got in trouble with the law. I got in trouble for the same exact ship. I had an open

case for the the same exact shit. I had an open case for, uh, when you were robbery before that, when you were had you been twenty years old in LA you might be over on sunset shaking some pools down. I don't know, you know, I don't know, bro, I just I feel like, uh that that really like helped get my mental right more than anything, like I had to do them four years because I found a fucking like Zen meditation book. It's like a fucking Phil Jackson book.

I swear to God, and I just picked it up on the on the yard one day and I just like I was into after. That's why I got the Buddha all my life. Yeah, the omen ship, because it just took me on like a different place mentally, you know what I mean. I was like, man, like this is what I need, Like I need something to call me to fuck down. So something about like the Zen, like a Buddhist culture designated with you brought me I needed it. You're racially ambiguous, Yeah, what is your what's

your break it down? Man? I swear to God, bro. So uh. People always assume I'm like Puerto Rican or like Mexican. Off the bat, I'm I'm Creole, bro. I'm like black, white, French Indian. You feel like I always figured you were like Mexican, a little bit of Brazilian in there, you know what I mean a little bit, but but really like that's really why I'm like this too,

like my whole life, like you feel me. From the time I was born, I was never black enough for the black kids to accept me and I was like too black for the white kids, and you know what I mean. So it kind of left me in like a weird place and I had to kind of be more extra out than you should be to be to be accepted by by who I wanted to be accepted by, you know what I mean. So I had to be Look if you if you ever see, this is the

truest shit ever. If you ever see a group of hood niggas and the whitest one in the group is probably crazy as fuck. Bro, Like, let me just would you say you're the craziest one in your group? I had quick reaction times, That's all I'm gonna say. I had quick reactions. I respond to things like instantly, but now you know I do. In May, you've definitely grown a lot. I was gonna say, are you ever worried that like some old chick all the time? You're a

new level in life all the time. But I always think, like damn like, because I know people can hold a grudge for a long fucking time. So I'm always just super hyper aware of like myself and my surroundings and everything like that, because you know, you don't never know, like as I'm saying like I'm pretty sure, like my KR is like pretty even now after everything, you know what I'm saying, I should be about here now, but

you don't never know, you know what I mean. So I'm always aware of my surroundings and like even even when I meet people I have wrong Before I saw somebody at a bar that I robbed in high school and I was like, damn, bro, Like I'm sorry, bro, like I ain't gonna you ain't gonna get it back, but I feel terrible about it, you know what I mean, Like, man, you want to drink, you know what I mean? Like

some shit like that it happens. He was with like he was with like eight people, and I was like all by myself too, shit, I had like one homie with me. My homie was like a five too, like like like Asian dude, and he didn't do nothing. So I was like thank God because he could have whipped my ass right there. Now he had about eight people with him. I was like, Damn, this is gonna be

oh bad all over the GRAMD the night Jesus. He ain't do nothing, though, But at the end of the day, like I do MMA every day, uh, because like you know Cap got me on that type program. I wake up every morning, I go to the the gym, I do my my, my, my mm are you doing more Thai

or two or more time? I do like muay Thai and boxing, but like it just helps me keep my mind straightened, also keeps my reaction time on points of if I got to hit somebody up in the jaw and get the fuck out of there, that's that's possible, you know what I mean? And Bro just that and we tie shit like I ain't gonna lie like uh. I used to see like uh Whiz in there every day. I'm like, then this nigga like a goddamn ninja. You feel like I'm trying to get on that type time.

I remember we was in the studio one night for like a week. We had already been in there for a week, and I went into the wrong uh the studio. So we have been recording in like uh the a room for like a week. This is like the eighth ninth day in a row. So Wiz hit me like, hey, bro, come uh come pull up. So we get to work. So I pull up, I walk in the wrong studio. There's like eight security guards outside that I ain't never

seen before. So I'm like, damn, homie, must have somebody up in here, Like you know, I'm thinking he I like whiz kids and nobody somebody you know what I'm saying. So I walk up in there, I say, what's up to everybody? I grew up in there? Man, It's not weirs, it's fucking uh a playboy CARDI Oh ship, bro, I'll walk up in that bitch. I'm like, oh ship, my bad. Like I apologize, like, but we we've been in here for a week, Like, bro, you know I'm not tripping.

So I'm like, hey, bro, I apologize, bro, Like, I don't mean to come interrupt, interrupt your your session. I'm looking for cap. So I bowed to him, bro, like you feel me, Like I bow to this man as I leave the room like as a as a as a show like respect about it to old boy. Damn not bad bro, and get out your way. So I walked out out the room. I'm walking back across to the uh the parking lot to uh uh go to the studio. I'm like, oh, I'm in the wrong ones.

Let me let me go over there coss a lot, bro, And like I'm probably like the teen yards out. I'm pulling out my phone to call Cap like, hey, Bro, like, where are you at? Yeah? You feel me? Out of nowhere? I hear, I hain't nigga. I'm like, what the fuck? And I turned back. It's fucking Playboy CARDI like running outside, Bro in the blouse like you're running outside like, and then behind him is like six more niggas come out behind him and the door opened again, like six more

niggas behind them. Bro. So it's like twelve thirteen niggas outside and I look back in a matter of like two seconds, but it stole something or something. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm just I'm just doing the same shit you doing. I'm like, Bro, what the fuck going on? In? Bro? Out of nowhere? He's like, Hey, I don't like weird ass niggas coming up in my studio. I'm like, whoa cause, Bro, I'm really like taking aback,

Like what the fuck is going on? Bro? So I'm like, hey, Bro, chill I'm like, bro, chill out, Like, Bro, I walked in down some humble shit, BO, and I told you, Bro, I was in the wrong lab. Like, Bro, you should be asking your security. Why the fuck they let a random ass nigga walk past all six of them up up in your session. They don't even know me from a cannapign that's who you should be mad at. He like, oh, on Pio some something some something. So I'm like, whoa.

I'm like, nigga, what are you saying on piru? Bro? I swear to bro, God strike me down right now. Bro, this nigga say on pi Roo. Sometime I said, look, bro, we ain't gonna do all an extra dou shit because you know, And I told him where I was from. You know what I'm saying. So I told him that. He was like, what on par ude? Though? And I said, though you feel me? I told him where I was from on hood? You feel I let you know? So he like cause it's like oh he like You're like, oh, so,

what's upthing. I'm like, Bro, what you trying to do. I'm like, I'm like, bro, I'll squabble you and your whole squad. He like, oh, I don't need no whole squad. I'll squabble you all by myself. I'm like, oh, this nigga turned. I'm like, bro, he really crazy, Like he don't see how this takeaway CARDI yes, bro, look I don't even noticed now from a cannapaign. I never met this man before. You feel me like, we ain't had no interactions. So I'm really like, this is my first

interaction with the nigga ever. So I'm like, bro, I told Wootie woo you know this is what it is. He told me where he was from again. So that's when at the point where I'm like, bro, what's up what you're trying to do? He tell me I scrabbed you all by myself. I don't need nobody. So I'm like, come on, then let's go, bro, Come on. I pull up like this, you know, hold on, I'm a little chain. I pulled up, pull my pants up. You from La you know what that means. When nigga I pulled the

pants up. He was sitting back there talking to his boys like that. I said, man, shut the fuck up. You ain't talking about nothing. I was low key spook, though. I thought the niggas about to whoop my ass on the way in. As soon as I turned around, I walked around the park and I said, shut the fuck up, walked back in a lot. They didn't say nothing telling you bro, when that makes everything, because right before you got here, Playboy Cardi's artist was here and his entourage

was here. So you walked in and you were like and then when they left, you were like, Yo, Playboy CARDI, don't fuck with me, Bro. I'm like, that's why I'm like, I'm thinking it's gonna get cracking. I'm like, bro, like that's what I'm trying to tell you, Bro, this is the last time I see him. So after all this, I walk in this study. I tell Wiz, I'm like, hey, bro, this nigga, Playboy card you crazy as Fuckro just just

ran up on you like twelve niggas. He just looked and Whiz Finn to go outside and Ninja kick the fuck out these niggas. I'm like, let's go, nigga, like I've been training already. At this point, Wiz start laughing. He started laughing. He's like he like like like that sounds like that crazy ass nigga. That's my dog. I'm like, oh man, I'm like man. In fact, Playboy Cardi was

saying on Pyru nah No. I told him, look, I'm trying to telling this story, but I don't know that's his voice, so he really like like laughing though, he's like, bro, like, that's my little bro. Like he liked that. He's like he's crazy like that. I'm like, oh, he really liked that. I'm thinking he just doing it for a flax from Atlanta, right, I don't know where he's from, that nigga crazy. He's from Piru. He can he from Piru too, but he can get the ones. Playboy card, you can get the ones.

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I wanted to ask you something because this kind of relates specifically to your background and where you may or may not be from. But when you see the Kwanda Rondo thing happen and he talks about like that's just so goofy, bro, just avows the pretty much mom man, that's just so goofy bro. We ain't talk about Bro, that's just so goofy bro. But in terms of like that kind of thing happening, right, because he's obviously not from here. See I put it like this, Bro, that's

that type of nigga, be the opposite of me. You feel me like I feel feel like the more extra out you is and all that shit like I be looking at I already knew knew from the start how his heart was, just by how he talked, you know what I mean? Like I could tell from the top like you had too much extras. Like if you know you know about you feel me, you don't have to act like the hardest nigga in the room to be the hardest nigg in the room. Like a look at

big you. He always got a quid on his face, smile on his face, happy all the time, super nice, generous to everybody, and ain't nobody about to test unk, you feel me? So that's how I kind of look at shit like I don't. I don't give no attention to know because I'm sure you had been around him before, right, and so I may have. But it's just like it's just when it comes to two ship like that, Like I don't really when it comes to people like Kwondo, man, you just gotta let you gotta let a goofy be

a goofy, you know what I mean? Man? Like all that, all that. I don't like people that uh that uh that change who they are and what they stand for too often, you know what I mean. I don't trust that. I don't trust that ever. Also, you're here one of the guys who dived all the way in on sports cards during the pandemic. But you want to open up a boxman, I got three hundred dollars hobby box. I mean, you can do a war right now, Let's do it. Let's do it. I got well, you brought me a

Stephon Marbury card that's autographed shouts to Steph Starbury. They got a statue of this man in China? All right? Can this is called a box war man? What's this mean? Hobby box? It's like three hundred and three fifty around that. But you can get a card up to like twelve, twelve, fifteen thousand dollars a year. This is an NBA prison hobby box. That's a that's LaMelo year and Anthony Edwards year. So you can get like a okay, a silver LaMelo

autograph or even Tyler Halliburton. Maybe I like Mary Aliburton's recent nice bro he's nice and the son's passed on him for fucking Jalen Smith, James Jones. This is how we do this. It's a box world, right. This means you're gonna pick the left side or the right side of the box, and all the packs on that side is yours. So if I could pull a twelve thousand dollars card, it's my words. I can't do nothing about it. I got the hommies outside waiting on you when you leave.

But that's about it. Of course you did, all right, keV. The left side of the right, Give me the left, motherfucker. That's that's the side I was, you know, always kissed the left man, Yeah, I knew that. Keep it on the left side, right, all right, those are your packs, he's mine, so you you really only don't even like, say, the cards that's in there unless it's something big, like unless it's like an Anthony Edwards, like a Lamello not just keep it going because who gives a fuck about

a smush Parker? Okay, alright, alright, alright, right, so but if it's like a Lebron or like a Luca or something, I tell you, yeah for sure. Okay, but this rookie year right here is Anthony Edwards and Lamela. I go through mine kind of quick though. I go through I look for the rookies. I didn't get ship. There's a there's a shy, but it's a hollow sga. Okay, I didn't get shit either. I got Tim Duncan next pack. What's up with Tim Duncan still having cards? Box Wars

bro I ain't gonna lie. I was in a eighteen Clay a little while ago. Aaron Gordon Magic Darius Garland. That's not a Garland rookie card? Is it not his? His rookie year year before? Nineteen? Yeah? Year before? Yeah, you're looking for Ooh, I got a it's a silver rookie, but it's Daniel o'touro. That's probably only worthd like twenty dollars. Nobody to give a fuck about that. Who I got a Devin Booker card? Nobody? Fuck, hey man, let me just have it for me. I'm gonna put that in

my house somewhere. Let's go Aaron Knesmith. Oh yeah, my bad, bro, I ain't get shipped so far. Bro. Do you get anything I got Devin Booker, I got Kobe White? Oh no, he didn't get nothing. Yeah, I got the knees myth Miles Turner. Yes, this ain't it? Uh? Oh? Patrick Williams, Now, that's my best car though so far. To Patrick Williams, rookie, we ain't doing too good with this box get nope, Jeff T Joshua, Yeah, this is trash. Kendrick Nunn, That's what I'm saying. Like, there's some not You open a

three zero, you get zero dollars back. Bro, All right, let's see I got it quickly on the back. I got it quickly. That's not a bad one. Yeah, I got it quickly. That's my I got a I got Anthony Edwards let me see that's an emergent. That's not a great one. It's probably worth like twenty dollars something like that. I should as napier Jesus Killian Hayes bum. That might be the best card though so far. Oh I got a Tyrese Maxie. That's a good one. So this is how you do a box where you you

take my best card in your best card. I gotta add value up. This is worth nothing because who the fuck is Tyrell Terry? Yeah exactly, it's a rookie, like who knows what he might I gotta I gotta s g a guinea Vija Dirk nowhiskey and Devin Booker book d book. Come on, man, it's all bad. We ain't getting hipped so Rudy Gobert, Dwight Howard. It's a really bad box, bro. We ain't got one Edwards one LaMelo. Oh I got a silver Lebron Hollow. This is the best card so far. That's uh, the Kobe Tribute dunk

probably like a hund or something. I got a C. J. McCollum. That's red. Does that matter? It's a if it was a good rookie, it would matter. No one's buying c J McCollum card note J McCollum may buy in CJ McCollum. Damn, I got an autograph Xavier Tillman from the Grizzlies. I thought it was look at you. Looks like you got the right fucking side. It looks like I got the right side. Man. Hey, we got to stop the interview to tell you about our family at odds Socks. That's right,

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the kids going, fuck with these? You're gonna let me keep that Lebron CARDA you're a sweetheart. Who I got an AI? I know that don't matter. Okay, Now this is a rookie card. It's an Isaac Coro High Impact booth. That was that was this? This this box was not it? It'd be like that. Bro Oh, I got one more pack left. Okay, let me ask you this, what's the most expensive card you have? Most expensive card? I got like a Herbert RPA that's worth about like ten k,

something like that justin Herbert. Yeah, I got an RPA worth about ten k, but I got helped you invest in it though, Like what was your buying on it? I bought it on a break. I only put in like eighty bucks really, and yeah, I end up getting that Herbert card. It's like a break. But the chances are so fucking small. So what is your card collection worth? Are you trying to get me robbed or something? You're trying to get my house? I mean you just said you had a ten thousand on card at that that's

enough reason to rob me along. Yeah, we aish we talk about all. I would say, I would say my shit is in the six figures, but it's it's in a safety deposit box though most of them. So y'all, y'all, y'all, stay the fuck out my shit. Well, have you noticed like the card market go down a little bit for sure because it was like so hot. The card market took a huge dip because of Panini and Tops started over sattroducing their card to keep up with the market.

And that's you used to have your plug that you follow on Target. Oh this is crazy. Ken knows about this. I used to have this dude, that Walmart and Target that would tell me when everything restocked and would hide it all in a certain part of the store, like like the diaper section. Wow, and there'd be like one hundred people like going straight for the cards and I go right for the diaper section and check out with everything.

We'd be hella fucking pissed every time. That's crazy. Probably I'm not gonna lie bro over the over the pandemic. I probably made close to one one one sixty just flipping cards. Yeah, that's dope. But it's like this, Bro, Like if if you buy the whole thing from the whole store, it probably comes with like forty boxes, you might spend like a thousand bucks. I would take that same that same forty boxes. I keep like four of them, and I would sell the boxes wholesale, sell the rest

of them for like a fifty dollars box. I was getting paid like one eighty two hundred just slipping the boxes and open Yeah. So I would make like five thousand in a day as opposed to like the gamble of opening the car. Yeah, I just I would, like, Bro, you saw what just happened. Yeah, if we would have went and sold that box now would have got like

three hundred bucks in fact that we opened it. Now, you probably got like one hundred bucks worth of cards if that you know those college cards, Yeah, the rookie class cards. So I bought a box because I thought I was doing something. I think I hit you about it when I bought it. Which one it was the I think it was the draft picks draft picks, and I told you don't buy those. So I bought the box and no, I bought like seven of them and

I opened all of them. No, I got a bunch of shit, but I got like Anthony Edwards and but they're all they're the college I feel like, I feel like, oh yeah, those aren't. Those aren't as worth as much. Aren't worth as much for sure? Yeah that's crazy. So like, bro, I've seen people open a twenty thousand dollars like top of the line box and get like eight hundred bucks worth of cards back. If not, you could have sold

that box for lost twenty kges opening a box. But that's the thing though, Like in this box, it could have been a fifteen a thousand dollars card Like it happens, you know what I mean, It just didn't happen to us. Yeah, it didn't happen us. We're just not cool enough. Zombie Land is the name of your shit? Yeah, that's the That's the name of my first album that I've been like talking about for like six months. You've been putting

out singles, So what is the project coming out? The project is probably going to be out sometime around the uh first week of January something like that. That stuff it's done, Yeah, it's all done. I'm just trying to clean everything up, try to get some shit cleared, you know. Yeah,

little like process on that thing. I just found that, like absolutely, taking my time with everything is just so much of a of a better way to operate than trying to like rush myself or put something out that's not one hundred percent the way I do the way I want it. I feel like when you're like two hundred percent hands on and shit is just like so much easier. Boom. Well look, man, I appreciate you pulling up and we got to have some cards. Hell, yeah,

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