#246 - Lamar Odom

that one brand, that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, a legendary cover. Yeah. That was my idea too, for us to way each other's jerseys and put them on backwards. Yeah, yeah, that was a It's crazy because like when you go back and look at the roster of like those some of those Clippers teams you were on, just so talented. Man, just like it just didn't I guess it didn't work out,

but fuck you guys. Had you guys were deep. If we had, if that team would have had like one we the mic in front of you, Yeah, if that team would have had like like one veteran Yeah, that was like respecting the league that we could have learned from because everybody was young, good habits. Yeah, we was just out there with hooping. Yeah, it's crazy. I was like,

how crazy was it back? Did you guys, like when you were playing for the Clippers, did you like know much about Donald Sterling being like a shithead or was it like you know, I mean, I knew that he

had the reputation that he wasn't going to pay anybody cheap. Yeah, so you know, even though you're young and you understand the business a little bit, at that point in time your career, I kind of knew that I was probably gonna be there long because I knew that I was, you know, good enough to be a max paid player and he wasn't going he was a cheap owner. Yeah. Yeah.

He knew the system on out of you know, not win games and still come up on a plus side as far as making money, because that's it was like all about the bottom line. Man. It's like, why would we spend money to win a championship? I'm making money at then every year, stay shitty and draft players. He had no love for the game or for the brothers. Obviously obviously yeah. I mean, I'm a Son's fan and

we've been dealing with it. Oh, the cheapest owner in basketball for the last Well, I feel bad for the Suns fans because they ain't gonna never get with probably which I probably deserve, probably to change the mascot. What does that mean? You don't like the gorilla? Nah? Do you think there's like some racial connotations with the Sons gorilla? Come on, bro? And then the thing that's funny is like they kind of like slicked slid that one by

for all these years, nobody like says anything about that. Okay, it is random gorillas in the desert. You can't find any well, that's what I was gonna say. You can probably find a cactus or in terms of like the animal chosen were in Phoenix, it's the Suns. I don't know what they say in basketball, bro, It's just like,

come on, you think it's on purpose. But you know what's so really crazy about it is that it was a They just tried it because they wanted to get some They want to get the fans involved, right, and that's the reason why they kept it, because the fans loved it. But you don't think it was like Jerry Calandros, like not purposely trying to, I'm just saying though, Yeah, it's not good representation because Phoenix is like the last city to recognize doctor King as a as all them

already know. No, Phoenix has a gorilla. Okay, we do have some terrible histories, and it's just like how they change what they changed the Redskins and the Indian to the Commanders. Yeah, I think it's probably probably about that time as a woke young black man in America right now, and it's climate. I'm surprised Chris Paul hasn't said anything about it. You know what it is, man, The Son's gorilla is so popular in Phoenix. Yeah, I bet it is. I bet it is. It's like and that guy and

the mascot is one like mascot of the year so much. Yeah, and then there's a wild crazy gorilla. He ain't like tanged or nothing like that. No, he's a pretty chill gorilla. Nah, were jumping up off the roof and all that. I mean, he's a mascot. I've been I've not I've been watching it though I'm hip to it. Yeah, you know what I mean. And you don't have forty two. I'm just I'm just looking at todes. That thing's totally different. I'm

forty three. I respect it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And I'm just saying, like any chance you was there any any discussions where every thought you might end up on the Suns? No? No, And it was crazy because when I was playing, that's something that just just went over my head. The Gorilla. Yeah, I think I probably started paying attention to it a little bit more when I've seen Seas doing MC yeah said he was, He's he's he said, is a great DJ too. He's Yeah,

does radio and ship. He's a legend and AZ for sure, shout out to said, and a Lakers legend. He made Yeah, did make the list? Did he make the list of top seventy five lists? I'm not sure he's on that. You you were on that right? Yeah? Well, first of all, congratulations, because that's a big honor to be, I mean, the most storied franchised. I'd rather have my number retired. You think that's coming. I don't know, Ship, I mean, I don't know. I'm I mean, I feel like I but

you one thing at home, motherfucker. Get an individual Award and shoot, the reality showed the same season. You know what I'm saying, because you patted myself on the back, but you got six Man of the Year the year. Yeah, I shot, I was shooting Chloe in Themore that year. D I forgot you guys had Chloe in the More.

I definitely watched that, damn Yo. Just that whole like era of the Lakers was so wild to me because like I think, like you got traded for Miami, there was like a point in time where like Kobe was a little unhappy. I forget it was. I think it was the year before you guys got Palgasol, Right, Yeah, I remember, like Phoenix Talk radio, everybody was like, yo, the Sons might try to trade for Kobe, and then

it obviously didn't happen. But he probably was bluffing just to make things happen overnight because that Chris Paul trade, Like he wasn't going to Kobe would have never left LA. He wasn't right crazy. What was it like being on the team when the league shuts down the Chris Paul trade. Well, for me, I was happy because I was in the trade. You were supposed to get sent to New Orleans. Yeah, yeah, well year, what was that like, oh, seven oh eight, I was eleven. I think pal Gasol was in the trade.

Ten or eleven. You were in the trade, powers in the trade. It doesn't happen. David Stern shuts it down. You're happy, though, because you want to stay in LA. Yeah. Was that weird coming back to the team after like they just tried a trade or did you just kind of understand it was business? Nah? Shit, I ain't never going to I've been in LA since I was nineteen years old. But I just mean in terms of like

that Chris Paul trade not happening. But you foind you obviously saying but you find out you're a part of the trade, it gets canceled. When you come back to the team, it's over with. There's underneath the bridge, knows under the water now. Yeah, I'm just happy to be back at that point in time. Yeah, would you? I mean, obviously you saw kind of like both extremes of playing in l A from the Clippers to the Lakers, how it was even though you guys were in the same building.

Did you feel that like just the different like organizationally, did you feel the difference in terms of like management, culture, all that ship. Well, everything is different. Yeah, you know what I mean. Expectancy, The expectations are crazy like the Clippers to this day. You know, if they had a better season in Lakers knowing then they had a great season. Yeah. And also no one gives the Lakers trying to be the best team in the NBA. Yeah. So I think

that's the difference in the town too. Yeah, La, it ain't no difference than Oh no, no no, if you live here, you know, nobody fucks with the clip. No they do, but not many people they do. Yeah, there's a there's a few Clipper shout that my man Clipper Daryl, Clipper, Darryl has something. I mean, I'm gonna be I'm gonna keep it real with you. He's lost bets to me. I'm gonna keep you know, shout out to my man Kadem Hardiston, Malcolm in the middle, like they were there

when we was expected to lose. Uh. What's the old old comedian dude's name. Uh, that's always at the Clipper games, the old white dude. He had a sitcom. Fuck you know who I'm talking about, Bro, I don't know my rookie year, Bro, We lost twenty games in a row by twenty, So I mean it was average getting blown out. You lost twenty in a row by twenty. That's a total fat? Is that a fat? Is that like a record? I don't know, Probably gott to be close to it. Oh my god? Now was that the year before? Was

Michael allow conde arty with y'all? Yeah? Wow, that was his second year? Yeah, my rookie year was his second year. Damn, that's great. That's terrible. Was Alvin Gentry the coach one of our coaches? Oh man, that's that's that's like some

Detroit Lions. Shit. I mean the Clippers low k here, Like I feel like before Chris Paul went to the Clippers, I looked at the Clippers as like the worst organization in all sports until they got Obama, right, because the owner a team is going to be a reflection of the owner. I mean even before he sold. I mean when there was Blake Griffin and CP it was like, okay, cool, they at least they're they're good. No yah, they were turning around because the product they had talent, Yeah, you

know what, some energy and Chris Paul was a veteran. Yeah, even though he had, you know, young Blake Griffin. That's what I'm saying. If if my team just had like a veteran presence, just the presence, not even the output on the court, right, I feel what I'm saying, just to tame us off the court, help us without practice happiting shit like that, that team would have been made noise in the playoffs. How crazy was off the court? Two thousand Clippers two thousand and one Clippers were y'all

hitting the club all the time, all the time. I was like the kind of the leader. We used to go to the hotel. We used to get to the hotel, Me me downstairs. We would just be city. Y'all were in you guys just turn it out wow to the club. Average city. Who was like your number one, like a partner in crime, be me, Jeff mcguinnis demus Q. We was. We used to always hang tight off the court, even the dudes that didn't we really even like each other.

I think I was kind of like the bridge, you kind of like bridged everybody that kind of blew damn. I can imagine Darius Miles, Tom I mean, were all in La now. Everybody got it like a little men I was in the pocket, all into the same shit everybody's been to, the sneakers and girls, same ship that we went too. Now, Yeah, but it was new. It was new to you back then. Yeah yeah, out straight out of high school or college wherever he was at a little Darius Miles got drafted out of high school.

High school? Damn? So was he even eighteen or was he like he was a right, So you're just and I was nineteen twenty. I was twenty one. You guys weren't even old enough to drink. We was everywhere in the clubs. Are just doing hotel parties. Hotel parties? Yeah, I don't know, so in the club in the club, man, I ain't the NBA experience to party in your hotel. We was out. I can only imagine that era had to be so much more fun because you have so

much less shit to worry about. The social media on that shit wasn't now, so you could you could fuck off and like truly fuck off and not worry about being on TMZ the next day or Twitter or whatever the fuck is. You can have fun. You can have innocent fun and not have to worry about being on because you can like not do anything. You could just be out at a club and like, I just saw you. I'm sure you saw. They posted a video of Lebron gambling and they're trying to make it like a bad

thing because he was playing blackjack. I'm like, who gives a fuck exactly, He's just you know what I'm saying. Yeah, well, you gotta watch it back over everything. Now, do you find because you've been through so much, man, do you find yourself more calculated now? In terms of just like you got I'm older, I learned, you know what I mean, you've been through. I'm gonna make the same mistakes. Of course, you feel me that I made when I was nineteen, that i'd be insane. Yeah, I feel I try to,

you know, at least get better every day. You have to, man, I feel me, like, look, just think about it. I got suspended twice for smoking wheed, so it's crazy. Probably cost me like thirty million dollars if I think about it because of the Did it affected your next deals? Because I was a free agent, you had a stigma. Oh this guy smokes weed, he's he's a troublemaker. But which, by the way, now we know it doesn't fucking matter. They don't even test for we in the NBA. It's crazy.

So yeah, you feel me. Yeah, now I'm about to get paid for selling, for selling dope, they call it dope. I hate that word. It's amazing. You got your own weed coming out, you feel me? What's the we called? It's Odham cannabis is with flight path and on the first two strings it's gonna be cereal milk and nice. Got some dope package. How would you guys hide weed back in the day when you're playing, Like, would you know if you were going to get pissed tested or

was it random? Yeah, that's what I'm saying about the youth ship right right. I know that I'm getting tested mm hmm. So and you're still doing it, but you knew, Yeah, you were just kind of hoping that. You know what, roulette, what's your career? Yeah, like, I know, but you know, I'm young. I don't give a fuck it, Just like it was the time where I, like, you know, I like to sniff coke while playing No, no summertime, feel me.

So let me get this straight. So during but during during your basketball years, so during the summer off season, you would play with the coke facts. Yeah, no, I mean at forty three, like, I don't even really I don't even really fuck with no hard drugs. Now you feel what I'm saying. But wow, I'm forty three. Yeah, you got so much shit out there. You got just fat and a ship like that high. So after fifteen minutes a high, is it worth Well? That's the thing

about my liking is like, you got to keep doing it. Yeah. It's like if you you don't have to, but you're gonna want to. No, right, because like you said, it doesn't last long. So if you do it and you're out, and you're out, you're having a night, You're gonna keep doing it. Facts. If it's around what year, how far into your career did you start fucking with coke? My son passed away in two thousand and six, so when

you're in the Lakers. Yeah, do you think that that was a direct result of you dealing with the pain from losing your I don't know. I could have been. It just probably was. I just chose that time to party, you know what I mean, made the wrong decision. That shit opened up a demon. Yeah, but I mean, you know, I regret having to learn about myself in that way. I regret that I you know, that I had that

strong urge of addiction that way you feel me. I'm such a hard I mean, that's something that you never get over either. Man losing a kid. Yeah, no, that's the opposite of our life cycle, right. We don't think that we're supposed to bury our children. Our children supposed to bury us exactly. Man's that's tough. That's definitely tough. Man. Have you ever because you know, obviously you've dealt with addiction. I know people who have done like ayahuasca retreats to

try to like breakthrough. So I did. I did something that's something similar to that I did iber game. What's that It's a plant Medicine's supposed to be like the strongest psychedelic Yeah, psychedelic medicine. And I'm sorry. I did a lot of drugs in my life. And that ship was that shit was so strong. I was I was. I was sitting there like and it was hitting me. I was like, God, please have this ship stop? Was everything visual? Yeah, I got to So, you know, plant

medicine is really spiritual of course. Yeah. I know people who say that they're atheists and then they did d M T or they did ayahuasca, and now I believe in God because they're like so they say that the first vision that you're gonna see is probably like the closest person in your family. So over my eyes and I see my cousin Sierra, who I kind of like raised her. And I kept hearing my mother voice, my grandmother's voice, the women in my family, like my cousin.

I kept hearing they voice and shit like that, and I got to see my son again. I got to see him like the age where he was, you know, he passed away, probably like the age like twelve or thirteen, and then like the age he would have been at that time. What that shit was, Tripper, Yeah, that was the only time you did it. Yeah wow, it made me want to do it again. But that shit was so strong, I don't know if I want to even face those demons perve myself. Yeah, like what's the second time?

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like that. I think it's because you just didn't eat enough, because you're you're a big guy. You gotta put them in like a milkshake or something. No not, I mean you could eat them. I have them in gummies. There's chocolate, they got gummies yeah yeah, or fire yeah. I mean you just gotta I love candy at shout out to the nerds. Yeah, no, you should fuck with some. I feel like psychedelics like low key for people who deal with addiction or just have like you know, shit, they

need to work out. I feel like psychedelics is like the way to go man, and it's not addictive. It's a drug, but like, what is a drug. It's a drug according to the government. Yeah, whatever the fuck that means. Like you just said you used to get fined for smoking weed as it cost you thirty million fucking dollars. You know, nowadays everyone's smoking everybody. It's like the thing to do one hundred and even Like it's crazy too because now you have active players doing the weed. Ship

Like how you have your strain? How is this it? Man? That's the packaging for it. Oh, that's fire, the gelato, the die cut bag, the cereal milk. Yo, but this will pop dude in l a too. Yep. See the bag is important, that dye cut will stand out. Yeah, that's super fire. Yeah, good ship. And then you obviously you got a quality test the weed. Right. First, we've seen the American gangster, right, of course I stand by it. I stamp it my product. Like pepsi you know what

the name is? Hell, Yeah, and you have a pepsi here, not a guy. Very few people in this world are pepsi over coke. My dad's a pepsi guy. PEPs is like a coke following. Yes, it's like a fucking underground rapper. It's like, man, I was listening to Griselda before everybody ship shot to Benny the Butcher. Shout to Benny Man, Yeah what what are you listening to these days? Bennie Butcher? Love you some, Benny, I know all the ship let me shout out shouts to the Griselda boys, Man Conway,

Benny Locks. Of course. King's Disease three Fire, super Fire, amazing. It's actually probably the best NAS album since I don't know, dude, it's it's it's the best King's Disease. I mean, if him and hip Boy have put four albums on two years, it's the best one. I had an ill moment. What was from Quings? Well, I know you're from Queens, You're from Jamaica, right, yeah? Making sure? I don't know where was at. I was out with Trogi p Henson one night.

We go to some little spot a date. Yeah yeah, nice, what'd you think? I don't know nice? I see no stair. I had to pull up. I had to get a bottle of champagne. I got the opportunity to chop it up. When I see a Jones, me and a man one on one, that's amazing. And that night we was having dinner with Landers, Brad Pitt ForwArt with it. Come o er that night, my Duke, I got to see Prince Playter's Crib. What the fuck? So in the same night

you're with Taraji p Henson. On a day you go to dinner with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt and shout out to go, Hey, did you watch Ghost Dog back in the day, the Forest Whitaker movie where he was the samurai and the rizzard did the soundtrack. It was amazing. Shout to him, holdo, he was what he was a samurai in in in in New York and he was flying pigeons and Wu Tang did the soundtrack. It was called ghost Dog Fire. Uh Samurai, Yeah Forred Whittaker. He's

like a black samurai. He like lives by the samurai code super Fire movie. With that being said, you saw Prince perform the same night at his house? Was nas at his house? Did you close the deal with Taraji p Henson that night? Was like you guys were together. I didn't know you were with her, but look you got a h It's a serious resume that lamar Odams

got in life. I've been to Elis when I was nineteen man, what about like back in the day before there's only fans, before there's I G chicks, there was like the chicks who would make it on like King magazine, right like the Glory of Aless what was that one girl? What's the rose now before her? Vita Gerra? You know what I'm guragu about that. I think because of who I because of who I am, where I live at, I have really access to everybody I was. I wasn't

out like looking for somebody. Oh when I see him, if I bumped at it or whatever and I got to kick it to it, yeah whatever, you know what I mean. But I wasn't out like yo. If I see this one, I wasn't out, yo. Let me send this one the message through my manager of shit like that. I don't move like that, right, but some guys do that, right, they'll send like they'll send their guy to go have all the especially nowadays, you can't hit a girl up directly.

You'll be on with the ig like that, right. Yeah, they'll just screenshot it every time I hit a girl. I when we're walking out verbiage, you gotta be careful and let me don't sound let me don't sound. Two thirsty or too aggressive because and get flipped. It definitely could get fliped. Hey tell me this. You've played with some great players, some amazing players. Who is your starting five teammates that you've played with throughout your career and

and on the same team. No, no, no, throughout your whole career. You had to assemble a starting five. You're not on the team though, mm hm Grant, mm hmm, I am a soon, Kobe, of course, Lebron Pole. Wait wait, I'm talking about guys you played with your teammates, they're all play on the Lakers with all played with at one time throughout your career. And you played with that one time. It was all on my team one time. Lebron USA, Durant USA, Okay take the USA. Shout out, Kobe.

Let's go through Miami, Kobe Dallas, Kobe Pal, Kobe Pal, Dwayne Wade, Yeah, Duck whisky fuck. Yeah, this is a great team. Kobe. You kind of well, you don't necessarily need a Kobe. You had Jason Kidd on that, Max, Dwayne Wade, Derkcardo. Oh, you had Vince on the Yeah, you put Vince over Jason Kidd. Yeah, I know, I got time or not overall? Right, at that time, that's a hell of it. You play hard, that's all to say, though, Yeah, and then you're the sixth man. Whatever you want to

take it. Yeah, that's crazy, that'd be that'd be a pretty wild Yo. What how crazy? Take me to the eighty two point game? Kobe night you were there eighty one or eighty one? Why do I say eighty eighty two? Is the amount of games that get played? The eighty one point game though against the Raptors, where he was just I mean a legendary night man. What was that was the reason why that coach it's not coaching anymore. Who was the coach? Sam Mitchell? Oh yeah, he's former

the wolf back in the day. The whole time, I'm like, yo, double team, I wanted to play. He ain't even change the defense. He adn't change he ain't make no adjustment. Hm hm no, joon right, we just don't sit there and just let him just talk to your team. It's pretty crazy. Jalen Rose forever will be known as, I mean, an amazing guy, but also the guy who was guarding Kobe most of that game, gave him and we was

down twenty five that game. Really, you know, it's crazy about that game, Like I don't seen Kobe like hit some like incredible shots shit that you can't imagine. And just that shit was just like basic Kobe in that game. Just well yeah, just well just basic. Everything was like well mostly two foot wasn't no one leg runners, you know, a couple of fataways handing there, but it shit was

just basic basketball. If you think about him, you always hear like people say, Kobe could could be difficult to play with because he held everyone extremely account Yeah he's you know, he's sick. Yeah, he's like a sick competitive guy. Yeah, you know, he didn't it was hard for him to get along with guys that you know, didn't want it as bad as he did. Right, You come from losing culture. You spent the year in Miami, decent team obviously with

a young d Wade. You get to the Lakers, it's like Kobe have a chat with you, like a sh It's different now, No, But I knew Kobe before before the before we came into the league. Kind of was raised in the same au environment. So it came through up in the Adida circuit with Sonny with Carol, but playing with him is got to be different, right, because it's like yo, Yeah, but even before that he came to I remember I played against him in the NBA camp.

The NBA had the best at top one hundred camp, and I remember in this true story, I remember he was. He came walking on we had at Princeton. I remember, Hm, I can't remember he came walking on on the campus. I remember we had on shades. This motherfucker had on. He had a briefcase with him. What was in the brief I don't know, homework, I don't know. But I was just like, you know, motherfucker's seventeen years old, six

eighteen years old. We got a briefcase with him. Like he just looked real serious, right, And do you feel like playing with him kind of helped make you kind of like force you to kind of grow up a little bit. No, It made me take my you know, my career. It made me Yeah, made me shoot for a championship. Yeah, you know, so practice at ten, you know what I mean? Eight practice over at twelve. I'm not leaving three every day, Damn you feel me? So, man, I could say he but see like he instilled that

with me. He didn't have to say nothing. I got common sense. I'm like, this motherfucker's the bast motherfucking league. If this is what he doing to stay sharp, I think if I should, probably I could play. You know, I got the talent enough to hang out with him on my own. But if I just follow and take a little bit or what he doing, the habits the behave, Yeah, maybe some of that star that's a fall off on me. Yeah, because a lot of people have the talent, but it's

the other ship. Always the other ship. Talently gonna take you so far. But but talent you could get off. But talent you can probably get away. You know, three to fifteen games, you get the talent, but if you want to forty fifty sixty games or the same ship being consistent, you're gonna have to work. Yeah. Yo, let me ask you this as somebody who has, like you said earlier, you know, obviously you struggle with addiction when you see guys who are former players that are in

similar situations. I just saw. I'm trying to think, what's the name of the guy Delante west is? I mean, you know, I know Mark Cuban trying to help him out. He's still after that. Yeah, I don't know what's going on with Ben Gordon, but he seems to not be doing the greatest. But a lot of that ship is mental health. I didn't say to you, like I never really I ain't even really understood how mental health and using drugs is kind of like they all tied in

to the same thing. Really, I never really understood that to like, you know about the age that I am now, But I think what shit is being truthful with yourself about you know, your situation mentally? Yep, you know what I mean. And it takes like how they say it takes a village to raise a child, It takes you know, knowing who your friends are because a lot of us have enabled us around us, you know, especially a lot of these young black men and making a million dollars especial,

anybody like that. Everybody just wants a piece, so they're not gonna nobody want to tell them, no, of course, not even if it's closer to your life. Because even if you get high and you get away with it that day, all that night, it's really closer to your life. You don't know it, right, what is the crazy you're really getting low? Yeah, man, Look, I think that that's everyone.

If you're supplying livelihood for people, they're gonna look the other way if you're into some bullshit, because if you know how it is, if you're an addicts, the last thing you want to be told is the truth. You know what I'm saying. That's a fact. What's the how crazy like drug use? WI is? What was like the craziest ship you've tried? Shit? Just I mean cocaine every which fall? Yeah, you feel me? So you've you smoked in this crack? Basically? Yeah? You know what's the difference

because I'll be watching fucking snowfall. The high is the difference? Is it like that fire? What like smoking cracks? Yeah? Because like man, people will literally give up everything to get more of it. It's got to be insane. And I don't mean that in like a good way, but the high has got to be crazy. It's intense. Yeah. And for me, I'm gonna be honest with you, Like every drug that I did was always tied into sex too, mm hmm. So you would every which one, yeah, every

which one? So when you were having sex, you obviously get the drugs involved. Always makes the sex better, Always addicted to sex addicted drugs the same way. Yeah, amen, sexist. I mean, look man, yeah, I feel me. Yeah. And nowadays sex is more easy to get than drugs. True, you feel me? Yeah. We gotta stop the interview real quick. We're live in Vegas right now. Listen, fellas. If you're this and you need a little extra pep in your step, you know what step I'm talking about. I'm talking about

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It was very public. And think about that I did, and you know, I'm admitting to you doing drugs you know in the hood that you would never do, right. I didn't do drugs that night, though, really, So what was was it? Were you on viag or some shit? I mean, yeah, I was. I was going to have sex that night, you know what I'm saying. So I was preparing that night because you had cardiac arress. Right, I had everything. Yeah, I was under I had twelve strokes and six heart attacks. Jesus, And so what what

brought that? On? The drugs that they slipped me? I guess oh they slipped you some shit. Yeah, and as a you know, as a drug addict, I was like, I wish you had told me what it was, because that had to be some good ship to lay me down for three days? Right. I woke up. I couldn't walk or talk nothing. No, I remember, dude, it was scary. Yeah. I think the scariest part for me was not being able to talk. That's got to be frustrating. You can't communicate,

you know, that's got to be crazy. He was extremely humbling. I mean, just thinking about it, I'm two time NBA champion, Lamar old them feel me. I'm laying and see the sign. No, I can't even hold my biweles my geeyeh. Nurses coming

and changed me every three or four hours. Right, the man, do you feel like that it sometimes, cause you know, I grew up in a family with a lot of drug addicts very close to me, and I almost feel like you almost have to hit a certain rock bottom before you kind of get woken up a bit or really truly evaluate your ship. Do you feel like that? That was kind of like a But for me it was confusing because I'm like, damn, I don't even do

drugs that night. But I think for me that ultimately was wound up being like to you know, it's those gas station dick pills man. The way I think that, I think that was the one that shit that made me like, yo, you know, you could lose your life. I got too much to lift for. Yeah, you can lose your life. Just live in a certain way. Man. My daughter's twenty four. That's crazy. You got some grown ass children. Man, it's wild bro. You do, man, you do. It's been dope just to see kind of like the

redemption story. Man, I saw the story. Uh, when you were down bad obviously, you know you had to auction your rings off and the guy came up to you at the Laker game and he just gave him back to you. Right, crazy because it's a fan that all them wrapped up right many thousands of times. And they seen me at your first Laker game and he was like, lamar got him. I'm like, God, what we're talking about? Yeah? It was like, I gotta get some ships fucking back

where it belong. Like, what are you talking about? It's like the fucking rings, bro, I'm like, oh ship. He was like, I'm gonna, you know, give you a a day where you could come get him. I went back the next day. Hmm, I ain't take them off since that shit's amazing. And the fact that man that for nothing, he didn't ask for nothing because he paid good money for the rings, like I mean, they ended up selling for like a serious This is my man, France. I'm

gonna call him France. Shout out to him. Shout out to France. Solid fucking guy. Solid for sure for sure. Yo. Obviously Kobe meant a lot to you. His death is probably the most like traumatic, unexpected. I didn't know Kobe Bryant. I'm a basketball fan tho, you know, and that ship really fucked me up for you, man, you know, was Kobe always there for you even through the low times because you you obviously had a lot of a lot of low Yeah, oh yeah, sure, I take a short

fucking mhm. Maybe talking about being an addict, you know what I'm saying. So when I was playing right, I never like gambled like heavy like that. What else I doing? I'm out the NBA. Yeah, I'm not making the money I used to make. I fucking pick up a gambling addiction. The worst? How bad? Was it? Really bad? So I'm gonna tell you why I got bad, really bad? Cut that whole that that's a straight line, or because she lets you fuck who you thinking's gonna be all sweet

like that all the time? There? Oh yes, I've been there. There's nothing like that's all sweet all time. Remember the first time I was like, well, maybe get into heavy, I was in. I was in flawed at the hard rock me and my man leaning free car us a Dad. I started for like no bullshit, like twenty five hundred.

I ranted all the way up to like sixty K that night, And it's to me, it was no better feeling th going upstairs, taking your money, putting it into safe You're like, gosh, damn, that's all it takes one of those nights. Unleast it unleast the same deeming like that cocaine untleast man. So make a long story short, I'm in a hole like I can't get myself out of it. I'm I don't got the money to pay it. Hm, you know what I mean, That's what I'm like, the

fuck i'm'na do? So everybody know Kobe was like an extra frugal motherfucker. Right. Uh, I'm like, I'm know, I'm I think I might have to make the call this motherfuck. I'm like, God, I know, I'm i'm'a get cursed out. What the fuck do you doing? That? Low called him after he cursed me out? What the fuck you doing? Ll? So you'll just have your people call my people. So he got you at your gambling hall? Facts? How deep were you in? Really deep? Can you give us the

number north of six figures? Yeah? So when you're in like a gambling hole, is that like you're using bookies or you like, no, I'm not, I'm using my money to get out. I don't want to use no booky or what was your game? Blank? Oh? Yeah? See Roulette? I love Herlette like Roulette love her. Let you know what's fucked up about roulette is you'll fucking get to a table and you'll see, Like you always think that there's a strategy to roulette, but there isn't. Now there's

ways you could play it. Increase your chance to play roulette at in Vegas lets. I play roulette everywhere I go. Yeah, I like Roulette and craps. But what I do is, I'll bet. You know how you could bet the outside the thirds, So I'll bet two of the thirds at the same time, and if one of those hits, I win because they pay two to one, you know, So if I put ten on each one and one of

the two hits, I win ten dollars in profit. If I lose, I triple up that bet on two, and you keep tripling every time you lose, and then it's it's a strategy. It works, but it's also if you get on a losing streak, you're like, you could be fucking asked out nless, You're like, yeah, I love roulette though, that's amazing, So you discovered gambling. Gambling fucking gets to the point where your six figures in the hole, I ain't got nobody call it but Kobe right, and Kobe

saves the day. The cheapest me and now I know probably wow, and like, that's not an easy call to make. Could be called one of the greatest players of all time. I got Prid, one of my closest friends, and ask him for some money. Did he make you pay it back? He was a great businessman, you know that. Yeah, so you had to pay it back of course? Well, I mean you did pay it back of course. Nice and interest nah nah wow. Shout out to Kobe save the day man. That's crazy. Where like, like for you? Would

you say that at his death? You know, because I think it was very like like I said, dude, just for America. It was right before the pandemic too. How did I mean just for you? Man? Like, how did it hit you? Where were you at when you found out about the news? I was in Atlanta. I was in Atlanta and I know the man. So I was told me plicopy cras. I was like, oh yeah, I just jumped out land on his feet. Yeah. I didn't think it was that bad. The funny my man that

I was with, he started throwing up. Wow, he don't even know Kobe. This this is what I'm thinking to myself. I'm like, damn, he's throwing up him, you know, being it's cooky. It's like one of those things that I think probably because the way it happened, they don't even really seem like real. It's the way to me, it's the way it happened because it was now accident and

his daughter them. We know that he's not here right obviously, you know what I'm saying, Right, but it just don't really seem real, you know, it's it's it's pretty wild. It's definitely. Yeah. Like I said, man, as a basketball fan and I'm a Laker hater, I grew up rooting against Kobe and that ship. I was like, well, I've watched this dude my whole fucking childhood. Like I played this motherfucker like like like I didn't know him, but I felt like I knew him, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

it was, it was. It was a big loss, man, definitely crazy. Hey which ring for you met the most? Which year twenty ten because it was the Celtics. M they fucking shook our bus two thousand and eight when they beat us about forty or whatever. Yeah, they won't even was leave the fucking arena. That would have been the year that you beat my Phoenix Sons in the Western Conference finals or no, that was No, I think you weren't on the team. I think that was twenty

twelve the Lakers beat the Sons in the West. Yeah, I think I don't think you're on the team. I don't think it was. Yeah, that was uh that even though we did beat the Suns one year in the playliffs, I mean the Steve Nash, right, I mean we also beat y'all when you guys were those eighty three one the eight the eight seed days? What was up three one area? Yeah, in the first round and we came back. Who did Steve Nash? Tim Thomas at the tree, Tim, I was there, la, Yeah, I was, I was out,

I was ore. Yeah, yo. Tim Thomas was also solid on the Clippers for a little bit. But Tim Thomas was fucking beasts. He made some big shots for us. Oh no, no no, no, I don't think he was on the Clippers. He he hit a shot against the Clippers though, in the playoffs US. Tim Thomas in high school was beast. He was the same size. That's crazy. How tall are you six ' ten? Yeah, he was the same size in high school. That's crazy. Now for you outside of yourself,

who's the greatest six man of all time? Michael Cooper? Okay, then Jamal Crawford. Jamal Crawford, Man, I'll say Michael Cooper first because impact the game, right. If Jamal Crawford is off that night, then true, he was a he was a real like streaky guy, of course, but when he was on full put fifty up for everybody he played for. He played, he played for the Suns a few years ago. Put fifty. Well, he's tough though, yeah. And then and then do we put Lou Williams in there anywhere? Because Lousa,

you know, one of the best six minutes. Yeah, this day and age. Yeah, shout out to Lou. Yeah. What about shout out to Louver for living with two women? Yeah, he's got the the double girlfriend thing going. Could you ever do that? I wish I would have did, as long as an NBA would have been made more sense than anything else than lying. Mmmmm. I wasn't mature enough to do it. If I could have did it. I feel like if you're a woman who dates an NBA player, I feel like you kind of have to know what

you're signing. Up for right, How about if you're a woman that dates a man. Mmmm, you want to get real with it? I can't get real with it. You're married, Yeah, shout out to my wife, shout to white people. But now, but in terms of like, yo, if somebody's on the road, uh, forty one dates a year, right, one would expect millionaires traveling the planet would have some wild situations that are

almost unavoidable as a man. But I was messing with one woman at the time when I was playing the NBA, and she said, the difference between me and you, Lamar, is that you entertained the ship like men. We walk outside with our men the oosit you h hand on our dick like I'm gonna get laid tonight. Yeah. Women, imagine if you imagine what women walked outside like that, And there's all something that do walk outside like that,

but not stereotypically that's true? Was there was? It? Was it like did you guys know like certain chicks in certain cities that like just everybody kind of ran through like the like, because I I swear to God, bro I know four or five bitches in Phoenix, Arizona, Scott Steele and they fucked every NBA All Star imaginable. Uh, And I'm like, did you know? I mean, there's some women that make they sam available like that, but you know some of them are probably gonna get married to

one of them one of the NBA playoffs. He ain't gonna know they're trying. Did you ever see guys beef out over chicks? Most NBA players. When you see an NBA dude and ay, like they beefing for no reason, like how do not get out of control? It's probably mostly over all the time over. Did you ever beef with anybody over a chick? Nah? Was there somebody who you had, like some actual like, Yo, I fucking don't like this guy. I'm giving him hard fouls because I

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for example, I'm a fan. I can't funk with Pat Beverley because what he did to Chris Paul, you know, when he fucking hit him in the back a couple of years ago. Because I'm a Sun's fan. I'm saying, like, who did you like? Who was like your phone? I ain't never really have no like like if it was you know, if it was you know, beef, it was just beef off of we respected each other like, I

ain't like, I don't funk. I ain't never really have that type of who is dudes where I'm looking to take your head off, even like even a dudes from this let me see that. You gotta have a Celtics guy, huh Tony Allen maybe yeah, yeah, okay, but okay, okay. What I'm saying like, I don't funk with him. It's like more of a like on a court, of course, That's what I mean. I don't with him. I ain't like off the court because Tony Allen was, but like poor piss, I ain't like poor piss. Yeah you know

what I mean. If he was off the pick and roll, if I could trip him or something like that to make him let him fall off, I would do it. And he's still petty as hell. He lebron every time he gets a chance. Yeah yeah, Paul Pierce. You know he had to get Ray Allen and KG you know, you know What I mean when that happened was that was like the eighth nine season they win the first year, did you guys like because that was I know everybody talks about Lebron going to Miami, but to me, the

real first like super team of that. They've been doing that ship well, they've been doing it, but I'm talking about that era when Ray Allen and KG went to the Celtics and won it. They went from worst team to the best team. Yeah, that's how it happens. When your team get better and the only one day players that hate on it make your team better. Motherfucker get

in the gym. Yeah, but I'm saying when when when the Celtics formed that trio and obviously that Rondo is a rookie, but like that was great for basketball, was great, Like you guys were excited for it. Yeah, you're not gonna always be one too. Yeah, look at Larry Bird Magic. No, we had Larry Bird, Michel Parish, they had Magic Worthy, Kareem right. Those was like, oh my god, they got a super team. Those are super teams for sure what

I'm saying, but it was expected. If you're the GM of the Lakers, how do you fix this year, or just fix the team in general. There's not a lot of assets, seems to be. Roba lincould put together a pretty shitty roster. But you know it's another hearing r there. If you had his job, what would you do differently? It depends on what my goal was. If the goal was to win, like right now, if I had to win more games right right now, then you probably have

to make a drastic change. Then the drastic change they probably would have to make. The Probably people wouldn't probably even be get into fathom what the draft to change would be. Here's how I traded in Lebron. So you would trade le Bron? I'm saying I wouldn't do it. Would I wouldn't do it? But saying if I went to the gym, if my responsibility was to make the

team better right now, how would that make it? I mean, as you have to because you have to get better players, and you can get two to three players right now, So why not trade a d? Oh, you can trade a d They gotta trade, I would think because from Lebron you probably would get more for him because he's Lebron. He's going to change the culture to your for your organization for the next two or three years. Maybe you haven't. Yeah,

I mean he's got a small one. I feel like a D. I think teams would probably be scared to take a D because he ain't played eighty two games the last two seasons. And you brought up trade Lebron. I would never trade Lebron personally. I called him gard James, Lebron or Jordan? Who's the wold? You Michael Jordan? I think you're wrong, but that's not here. They got me wrong. I love Jordan's up there. You Jordan's my favorite. You didn't get to see Michael Jordan. Of course as a child.

I have his posters all over my wall. But I still just think Lebron's better. He's been doing that at a high level way longer than Jordan did. Think about it. The year that Jordan came back and played with the Wizards, by the way, he still was putting up buckets, almost took him to the playoffs. I don't know, I don't.

I just think I used it. I don't know. For people that watched basketball the last twenty thirty years and really got to see Michael Jordans, I just think that the reasons why Michael Jordan is great like Lebron just can't live up. Yeah, but you too, But you could say the same thing about Jordan. Jordan wasn't as great as a pastor as Lebron Jordan. Oh, he couldn't do some things better. But I just Michael Jordan. I mean, Lebron's in what year twenty? Yes, he's an amazing player.

I agree with you. I agree with you, I agree with you. Did you play? Just something about Michael Jordan is the fact did you play? You know? And you know what. It's the six rings, It's the killer, it's the killer instinct, the man. You just can't really compare players strictly basketball all time Lebron or Kobe Kobe Bryant for the same reason why I'm picking Michael Jordan. You're putting Kobe over Lebron. Yeah, I mean, he's your one game I'm talking about for one game. We're talking about

the goat list here, Kobe Brant. You put Kobe over len Cobe Bryant. And the reason why I'm I'm picking Michael Jordan's I mean Kobe Bryant because Michael Jordan's he's the set the ball. Yeah, and Kobe Bryant was the only one that was chasing Michael Jordan's greatness, and it was obvious. Yeah, I don't know man from his Walk from the Fade away? Did you his win? Did you? Motherfucker had eighty one points? You got when you got drafted.

Jordan was already retired, right, but then he did. He come back to the Wizards while you were already in the league. I got to play against Mike one year one time, and I had food food poisoning, oh ship. So when I went on the court, I seen two Mikes. You really get to performance this when he was on the Wizards. Yeah, in DC. Yeah, I mean, it still had to be pretty cool to say it was cool, you got it. It was cool to meet him though.

I met him the first time I met him in Phoenix Great Place, and Mike Tyson was in the club sounds about it that same night. He used to live there. I was in the club with Mike Tyson and Michael Jordan. Phoenix got some incredible white women, though they got a lot of great everything white women latinas it might be the hot white chick capital pink toes bro. Yeah, that's what we called them in the league, the pink toes pink? Does that have to do with their nipples or their toes?

The feet? You know, my friend Conway, the machine, he calls white women. He said he likes dusty feet. He's out like dirty fielt white pitches, dirty foot, white bitch. Wait a minute, so you, by the way, a scenario in which you, Mike Tyson, and Michael Jordan are in the same nightclub. Let me tell you something. Yo. So I'm in the club with my name Marich Taylor, and I'm like, yo, mo, well, I can't stop looking at

this motherfucker. Hmm. I was like, I can't stop looking at this fuck Like It's like he was glowing like you ever seen when Chappelle said about Rick James, they had like seen his aura, yeah, coming off like I could really his presence was that strong. You know what's funny. I went to a Simba concert like a few months ago, and all of a sudden behind me was Lebron James and his wife And that was the same way. I was just like, damn, he's with his wife bother him

like ship. His presence was like it was like it was coming strong. Did you party with Mike Tyson it all that night. I feel like that would be a legendary hanging back in the day, Lamar odom, I feel like they'd be pretty easy to do. Have you done this podcast? You got to make that happen. It's out here and he's got his He's got the weed ship going crazy. He's gonna try to talk you into smoking the toad though, the toad that's his ship. That's that

d MT. No, it's not his ship, d m T. What's it's the it's it's pretty much the active chemical that that ship is crazy. But that ship you almost you actually you have to freebase it. Yeah, So it's it's like it looks like you're smoking right up my alley, Right up my alley, psychedelic freebase. I'm with it. Oh man, yo, Lamar, tell me about the craziest night of your life. That was not the night we all know about where you almost lost your life. Give me like peak partying, Lamar.

Is it a bunch of women? Are you having a foursome? Are you? What's going on? I think the craziest not Oh, I think Chloe. She came into this motherfucker hotel room at the Roosevelt Okay, you and Chloe. No, I was at the hotel room with some other women. Oh, she came in to tell them she started beating a bitch ass at the Roosevelt. So you're in the room with just one or I forgot how many women. It was more than one though for sure it's possibly could have

been more one. So Chloe finds out you're there. Yeah, I don't know how to fuck you know? I did though, because he's a woman. How you know which hotel? Because she she probably knows people, bro, she's Chloe Corodection. She probably you know, slipped the guy at the front desk. I don't know. Okay, so you're cheating on Chloe. She shows up. What happens next, I don't know. She just started fucking the girl up Jesus at the rose of her hotel. I had to like get her off the girl.

I'm starting, I'm thinking about this girl press charges right GMZ. But you know I got to got the got hed off the girl. Did you guys end up like the girl never went to the police freak out. Oh, she was a real one. I can't I wish I could remember who it was. Mm hmm, I can't remember how many times? Because you know, you and Chloe had a relationship that I think was we got to watch it on TV. People love y'all. You know what I'm saying.

People loved y'all together. Were you like I mean, like you obviously you cheated, but like, how many times you get caught cheating by Chloe too? That's not bad. She seems like a forgiving person. She is. She wiped my eyes when I was recover. Yeah, hey, what up y'all? Botleg keV gotta stop the interview to tell you about our newest sponsor. Man. Shout out to the homies at har Dean, Las Vegas. That's right, then, number one dispensary in the whole state of Nevada, let alone in the

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Let's get back to the interview. Is there a I feel like we always hear about people who who are inside of that family and how like it comes with a lot of pressure because obviously it's the most famous family in the world. You know what I'm saying? Is there any truth to that? Like, once you kind of get into that Kardashian gang, there's just things change in terms of like obviously you have a lot more eyes on you, But do you feel that pressure isn't like

Palatable's pressure. But I'm an athlete, championship athlete. If anybody the hell of the pressure with me, Yeah, I didn't handle the power, but you feel is there power that comes with that ship for sure? Mm hmmm yeah? Were you uh? Were you around yeah at all? When he was he was playing the music for me, his new new new ship for me when I was recovering. Damn, I fucked with him for that. Yeah. Yeah, Kanye seems I mean, he seems like a pretty misundertood guy. Man,

he's one of my favorite artists ever though. I got Yeah, so I got all his I mean, nas is my favorite MC. But in terms of this listography, yeah ya, yeah, I love yeah man. I think, Yeah, it's so crazy. I listen to some of his ship now I realize how good it is. What what do you remember what your album? He was playing you while you're in the hospital. What year was it? I could ribe tell you. It was two thousand and fifteen. Oh, it was the Life of Pablo, That's what I was just to say. I

think it was the Life of Pablo. Yeah, cause that came out twenty sixteen. Yeah, that's fire shit, all the new shit. That that shit woke my soul up cause I was really dead at that time. I think that's why I like, I kind of like a lost Chloe because of my mind. I couldn't really expressed myself how I was feeling, m expressed my thoughts, you know what I mean? Yeah, after not being able to talk, shit took me a little while alone how to talk and walk again. That's crazy, man. I can only imagine you

had to write shit down all that. Yeah, and it's not like even if you write something down, you ain't really getting out your thoughts, like how you wanna get him out? Mmm, it's just down with the fluidity, right. That's crazy man. Well, look you've you've you've had a hell of a redemption story that you're still doing. Man, Yeah, I ain't stopping. I got some the ketamine clinic. You heard of ketamine. I've heard about how it can be like beneficial. I don't know the details though, so maybe

you can. I got this these clinics coming out. Maybe maybe have you tried out? Well what is it? Because we heard, like I know, ketamine like the party drug. Got the party drug right, because people could get stuck in a k hole. Done it this way and sure can help with PTSD depression and addiction. Yeah, I've heard about that. I think in today's society that's probably needed because everybody is suffering from one or the other. After we all after the pandemic just basically put us in

jail basically the last two years. Right, anybody not really meant to do a bit? You ain't lying feeling Yeah, so a lot of people will state minds. So you have your you you have like a kedemene clinic where people can kind of safely administer it for therapeutic purposes. You know, it's about to I'm about to partner up with AD. Is that something that you've actually done and it was helpful? I don't get high, that's great, man, I don't think about h as fast as I think

about that word. Cocaine come in my mouth and leaves exactly? What is like? Uh? Would you know? Workers work every day in my relationship with God? Yeah, spoke my marijuana. That's about it. We just fine. I think I think I think we all know, like we I think weed and psychedelics should just you know, I don't know if we can consider those drugs because they're so beneficial. Well, I think it's for some people. Marijuana opens the gateway.

The gate It is true. So if you're not really strong and disciplined knowledgeable about marijuana, you know what I'm saying, you need to know everything about it before you indulge in it heavy. Yeah, I mean I know people who started smoking weed then, I mean, I mean, yeah, I think it's definitely a game. It's a certain truth to it. I don't know people. Some people that smoke weed would

never fuck with cocaine or anything else. You'll hardly ever find somebody who's never smoked weed, but they're huge coke heads. Like show me that guy. Yeah, I've never smoked in my life, but I love fucking coke. Yeah. That shit's crazy. So you don't even think about cocaine anymore. That's good, man. I know I don't do you do meetings? Nah, I just stay close to God, you know what I'm saying. A little kedemene sessions, Yeah, pray on it. I think I understand the risk and reward you feel me, Yeah,

comes down to that. Yeah, they do ketemine. They also do You also do an m d M A like a therapy. Yeah for PTSD. There's good. That party started right now. We have that prescription. No, No, it's a real thing though. Yeah. Yeah, the md m A. There's like m d m A trials to help veterans get through PTSD. Same thing with the psilocybin mushroom ship administered straighted. You know, uh properly, that ship is beneficial. But I think that's what any drug honestly, he said, maybe not crack.

I don't know. Nah, yeah, it's yeah, uh well cocaine. I don't think that could beneficial about cocaine. Yeah, because even if you're fucking on coke, your yeah, you do a little bit, a little bit too much. So while you're on coke, are you simultaneously taking gas station dick pills? Jerking jerking my dick off? If I am contro I don't even want to get into that. No, man, I just wonder because like you gotta do you how to do the viagra and the coch Yeah, so it was

sold downhill from Yeah, that viagras shit is serious. You wake up in the morning with the hardest dick of your life. You take a viagra the night before, you wake up in the morning and you're fucking that's the perfect dick though. Yeah, you ever did the gas station rhinos like you or the honey the honey pack. I feel like the honey pack is like immediate because you're

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the product obviously on the show. Oh Ship blue Choo dot com promo code Bootleg and you'll get your first month for free. I kind of want to get back to the basketball. A little bit man who was the hardest player that you had to defend where you just knew that night was just fuck I I this is who I gotta get on. Zach Randolph, oh ze Bo and he was he was fucking listen beas and he wouldn't he won't stop. And he's like I don't think people understand Like Zebo's like he's like built like a house.

How good he was it? So it was pound pound pound pound and he's gonna finish. Yeah, fess and pound pound pound even like back to the Blazers days. He was good an all game long too. He coming with it and whatever his team, whatever team he owned, his team is they like looking to go to him like he probably like the leader. Yeah yeah inflicsively, did you guys ever get high together like on weed? Because I know he's a big pot smoker. Nah a z rappers

zo Be blowing down them them tree Well ship. He got hit in Sacramento with like five pounds of weed or something Montreal. Who else's up rappers traveling with pounds of weed or not? Rappers a role? Players want to be rappers. Rappers want to be players. It's always been there. Huh did you ever try to have a go at rapping? I got my sixteen on my podcast? I mean I saw the freestyle that you put out like that was viral like ten years ago. No, oh no, that's yeah.

That was the high freestyle that was Yeah, but this one I did. I did it for my podcast, spin a little sixteen on them. It's cool when you were did you like obviously being from Jamaica, I mean home of fifty and Lost Boys too? Hey yo shot out r Peter pre guitar. Yeah, Cheeks Yeah, mister cheeks man.

Damn love the Lost Boys? Uh? What was there? Because you got drafted in ninety nine, so that's about the time, well Lost Boys was popping, and I feel like how to how to Rob might have been in that same window one. Yeah, Like, did you in fifty ever have a relationship being from the same place? Nah? Me and me and cheeks, Me and Cheeks. That's dope man, shout out to the Lost Boys, shots to mister cheeks man, the lights camera action guy. Damn. Okay, so we the

hardest player at the guard was Zach Off. What about uh, the dirtiest player. And I don't mean dirty in like a bad way. I mean, like, you know there's dirty players. No Zach Randolph, he was a good dirty Yeah, there's every every possession. What was it like guarding Tim Duncan. I've never really guarded Tim Duncan a lot. He probably played the center of power probably a lot. You were pretty much at the three four four three or four Okay,

so yeah, power was guarded. Tim Duncan was a motherfucker though. He was so patient, took his time and also like no emotion right, like you know, you don't like I feel like he's not this time to do to react to ship talking or talk ship back. Now he talked ship, but just he just he talked ship differently and like, yeah, motherfucker, get your ass up, Get your ass up? What about that? What about the biggest the best trash talker in your

career that you played against, probably be Gary Payton. But when when I came into the NBA, like talking trash like they kind of like took that out the game a little bit, right, but they don't really just gea motherfuckers and one you can't get into, like you know how Larry Bird and used to be in each other's face talking ship, talking crazy ship. I can't do that right now. Yeah, well, look you got your podcast. Uh plug that real quick. What does it go on the low?

On the Low podcast? Look for that joint. Is it coming or is it out? It's coming, it's not, it's out, it's out. So first episode, Yeah, we did it. I did an episode yesterday with dog Face. You know, dog fixed the Mexican dude, the skateboard, skateboard and the Cranberry juice. You gotta start, Barry, you gotta go on Mike Tyson's podcast. I will you have to will. That'll be legendary facts. What oh man, I will to be a fly on the wall in the nightclub that Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson

and Lamar Odem I was fucking time. That's fucking crazy not to mention the night where you're hanging out with Prince while. Yeah, listen tomorrow. I'm your a legend, man. I appreciate your time. Yes, sir, go go support the podcast. You got the weed coming out? How can they figure out get anywhere? Get it? It's gonna be everywhere cookies? Well, how can they learn about the Kenemine Clinic or is that coming soon? It's coming soon? How can they learn

about the Kenemane Clinic. That's a good question. Just stay stay, stay close to your I G right, I got you. Stay stay close to my I G. Appreciate your time, but I'm popping out here. Yes, sir, tomorrow to fire