#233 - Chris Distefano

I'm Irish, German and English? What so I'm just kind of like the trio of the whitest shit possible. You're you are the Empire, I am the I am I am. I am what Hitler was like, Yeah, yeah, dude, but you can there's a vibe to you. While I'm like, you could also be Latino. You don't be a sneaky Latino. A lot because my wife's Mexican. Okay, my kids are Mexican, and a lot of people recently have been disappointed to find out I was white. Yeah, a lot of rappers

once they find out I'm white, did I yo? But you wife? And I'm like, what do you want from me? Yeah, you don't think a white guy can fucking get a hot Latin woman. Dude. My wife's Puerto Rican, that's what I mean. Yeah, bro, but I don't look Latino at all, so you're you're certainly white. Like it's very clear to me that, like, at least my girl she knew she was going in white, your girl could have been like I thought he was Mexican. But now unfortunately it's too late.

But it's too late because you already dropped that empire dick. The empire dick. Yes, that's what it is. It's a good dick. Yeah. When I first when I first was living with my girl, like you know, I had to impress her, so I would I got the honey pack from the gas station. Yes, you know what I mean. That's beautiful. First month I was just I was on hgh. Yeah, dude. Yeah.

And then I know, I always I always like to go the first couple of weeks with a new girl just sex with the lights off, you know, yeah, because it's just you know, I like, at least I get them hooked and then it's just a full letdown because then the lights go on and you're like yeah, because I'm one of those guys, like you know, you know, people always like, oh, you fucking you must be Jack. But then I take my shirt off, my titskull like this, you know, like I always have a crumb in my

belly button. My dick has a couple of warts on it, and it's just one of those things where you get them hooked, they fall in love, and then they just start to see pass. Are you circumcised? Fully sir? Okay? Yeah. One of my camera guys yesterday was telling us, which sounds like a name for a cock he's got. He's like, we're all talking about like how we were somehow we were in a van in New York talking about our dicks. It happens and I was like, yeah, I'm two out

of the four people were not circumcised. And I was like, that's fucking gross, right, And then I was like, yeah, no, I'm circumcised, but I'm like seventy five percent circumcised. Okay, what does that mean? He said that, like they cut his dick and then they like reattached a part of the skin, and then he started to pull up my pictures of other dicks that look like his, dick, and I was like, Bro, that's a rough fucking go for a young lady that's got a look at that mutilated

fucking meat finger down there. Honestly, even when I'm watching porn, it doesn't matter how hot the girl is. If the guys uncircumcised, I'm like, gross, can't do it? Next video? What percentage of gay does it make me that I have to have a nice dick in the video. Here's the thing, here's what I'm about to tell you right now. Back by science. I just watched this was maybe a

few months ago. I just watched a neuroscientist talk about that men straight men ninety nine percent of the time will fast forward or go to the next porn video if the man's penis isn't big, because what excites a man. A man's sexual part of the brain are tits and a dick. That's what it wants. It wants the big breaths and a big dick because the subcont the little dick subconsciously makes the man feel insecure because they start to think about their own size and it takes them

out of it. They want big, big, huge dick with big boobs. So hypothetically, the straight man and would have the highest climax off of transgender shemail porn. That's the neuroscientist. That's the neuroscientist that I hired. Give give that lecture. No, that's a neuroscientist that was backed by science, dude, So it's weird you bring that up that way. Wait wait, so hypothetically a straight this is this is real, this

is backed by science. This. I saw a Ted talk of a guy I was also an event of my friends, and I was like, let's look up Ted talks on that can verify that we're not gay because we like she mails. So we looked into it and this is true.

You can YouTube this. It literally. The science has said they did a whole study, you know, in Sweden or one of those crazy freaky tee countries where they were like that men got most excited by a big penis and a big pair of boobs because that in the core of the brain, you want the big boobs, obviously, you want you know, we know why and and do you know why actually big boobs, why we're why we're attracted to big boobs and a big But do you know the scientific reason for that? I don't. I didn't

know there was one. I enjoy nice big breasts, but I would probably fancy myself and ask guy, But you know I like both. Okay, here's what it is. So the reason why you even ask. The reason why scientists say you like men, we like big boobs and a big butt, white hips is the boobs one is because what we're subconsciously Neanderthal brain seeing baby has milk. Our

babies will have milk to feed off. Big breast, right and comfortable pillow to lay on now now, But hips, why birthing canal gives us subconstantly our chance, our baby's chances, the best chance of survival. So we associate the butt with the hips. That's the reason why. And that's also the reason why women like this all makes sense big guys, why they like attract to a taller guys because in her brandy, she's saying he can guard me from animals. We can go out and hunt, he can go out

and hunt. And that's also why men are attracted to more physical attributes and beauty and women aren't because what a woman needs is a man who's all they really care about is if they're smarter enough. Because you have to again we live in a different world now, but this is neanderthal brain that we still have, you know,

are connected to the man's has to be smarter. That's why they're less about physical qualities, because you have to be cunning to go out and hunt and find food and perspect right where the woman is not going out and doing it. So we don't care if she's smarter enough. We just say them big old tit as for our baby's breast milk and the big cock and a big cock and a nice and a nice, nice wide burthen canal. That's what it is. If Kim Kardashian had a cock,

I'd be in have you seen? Have you seen? My wife follows this makeup artist, Nikita Dragon's she's an Asian uh, makeup influencer, but she's she's trans right, okay, but like fucking smoking okay, but it's like it's almost like crazy. Yes,

you know what I did? Actually, my girl told me to look into Nikita Dragon, and I did, and we reached out to do her podcast or if I could go on her so she'd come to mind and she I believe her reps just sent a one word answer, which was no, I'm almost that's where I know her hard no, hard no, And I'm like, well, I'm still jerking off to you, so can't stop me from doing that. Yeah. I always tell my friends. I'm like, yo, I can't

watch lesbian poorn. No, there's nothing in lesbian porn for me. Nothing. There's nothing because I like to at least feel like I'm the dude that's you know, fucking yes. Yeah, and I almost I try to come my come time. I come shot with the guys. Come shot. Yes, yes, yeah, that's the strategy. That's why I like. And I also like an up close and personal blowjop. I like a blowjob. I don't like, you know, if you're eating a girl, I don't care. Nobody wants to see a guy you

a chick out. Let me see your wet cock. Dude. How many people you think turn this podcast off for the to get the goal? Especially my audience, they're like, yo, what the fuck? Hey yo, yo, he sucks that boss, boss, your man's wild sucks. Oh man, Well welcome, thank you. That was a great way to kick things off there. It is for people who don't know you, how did you cause did you kind of give us kind of a Rundown on how you kind of started to get your buzz going in the in the comedy scene. Was

it the Opie and Anthony Show. Opie and Anthony was definitely big for me. I started stand up in two thousand and nine, twenty ten, okay, And then you know, it's interesting like I went that route of you know, I got on Guy Code, Code and Girl Code, which was was big, like big show by the way, Scholes was on there as well, Charlemagne, Broh Schultz, Charlemagne. Ah gosh,

there's like so many people that came from that. Yeah, man Aquafina, Like all these people came out of it, Nicole Bayer and there's like literally, if you look, it's like wild little Duvall, You're like, all these people are on Guy Coding, Girl Code and really nobody the biggest one with Charlotmagne, Charlemagne and Duval were you know, pretty pretty famous. But by of course, other than that, nobody really had a career. It was like all our starting

off points Pete Davidson. So it's like, you know, we did that show and that listen. That definitely got us to a point, got us in the clubs, got us know, But it still didn't get you to like you still weren't like we weren't. None of us were really selling tickets or or you know, on the road, because that's really the barometer of a comic. You could be on this TV show, on that TV show and do that,

but can you sell tickets? But because selling tickets is it's not only it's not only to other comics, but also just it's a world thing. It's like there's no smoking mirrors with tickets sales. There's a lot of smoking mirrors with television. You could be on a hit, Oh I got a CBS show, I got this Shawman. No, it gives you. But guess what, nobody knows who you are. Nobody,

nobody cares to purchase the ticket. But there's no because because you could make you know, the New York poster whomever could write an article about anyone saying that the next big whatever, and it's like, it's bullshit. If no one's at your shows, that if the people come, and that's how you know, So the people really weren't coming until really I started to do podcasting and the internet, and I had to kind of fail uh in television

to learn that because I had. I had my daughter seven now, she was about six months old at the time. I had a sitcom with CBS, a pilot film, the whole thing. You know. I met Dulp people at Chaz commentary from Bronxtail. Uh. He played my father and the show Diane Guerrero played my love interest from Orange Is the New Black and and a bunch of other stuff

and uh. And then I thought I was gonna be you know, the next Ray Romano or the CBS was telling me You're gonna be this and that, and then the show didn't go, just failed, did not did not go. I spent a year in my life put everything I had into it was going back and forth to La, time away from my family, and then you know, missed moments with my daughter's life. And I was like, well, but this will be good. We'll move to LA because

I was following this you know route of the print. Yeah, Night Seinfeld, ninth Bill Cosby, all these guys, and and it didn't go. And I said, well, shit, now I got a daughter, a young daughter, you know that, I have a life here. I got a girl, I had a step son. I was like, I need to make money, so I said, I made a deal with myself. When it didn't go I said, I said, I'm not going to allow myself ever again in my career to not

be in control. I'm never going to put my fate of my career in my family, someone else, in someone else's hands. The only people I will give it to is the audience, is the fans. So I said, find a way to give your put your career in the hands of your fans. And that's when I turned to the internet and podcasting, and it's really it was going good, going good, and then it's weird like that when the pandemic happened. You know a lot of people kind of career life got put on pause. But that's when my

career like got to the next level. Yeah, because everybody, the whole world just sitting in front of computer, same thing with Schultz. Schultz exploded in the pandemic. So it's it's one of those things where I still and I live by that now. And now I am going to do some some TV stuff, but it's all on my own terms. I'm like, yo, I don't want to go to LA I don't want I want to do a

whole If I'm going to do TV. It's got to be out of New York because now I have the power, because because my fans, because my careers in the hands of my fans. Now my tickets are sold, Now we add shows. Now you know, I have a podcast and a Patreon and everything is being controlled through my way. So now I can tell you know, now I can dictate my own terms, where a lot of times with TV you can't. The corporate person will say, well, you can't do this because you know they have all the

bargaining chips. But now I can say, well, listen, if we don't do it my way, no album, I don't. Guy. Yeah, it's and and and it's very respectful, but it's like, there's no reason I need to do your show other I have everything. I'm only going to do what I want to do. That's a great position to be in life. Yeah, I sit on my couch or or or or studio very close to my house, say exactly what I want to the fans that want to hear it. They come and buy tickets to my show, and we have a

happy little family. And to be honest with you, and I'm fine with this. It's like even somebody like my mother would be like, oh, why don't you want to do this show at that show, because even she doesn't understand, like, I lose money doing that. So not only is it freedom, you know, comedically, which is the most important, but financially it's like, you know, I make way more money doing it my way, sitting on my couch being I don't

miss it. I barely miss any events in my daughter's life unless I'm on the road, because I'm like, I don't. I'm not gonna go away and do things. Don't. There's time is time is so much more valuable to me than money. It's the greatest currency. It is the greatest currency. I don't need, you know, I think about money in a different, very different Now. I got two kids, two daughters and a step son. So now I'm like, you know,

I just don't. I flatter Like I just turned down a movie yesterday that would have taken me to la for six weeks, and I'm like, it was with a comedy hero of mine. You know, the money was okay, but I was like, it's just not worth it, man, I'll do that. I'll hold flee that opportunity. Similar opportunity is there twenty years from now when I'm older and my kids don't want to hang out with me anyway. You know, they're in college and I but right now with this time, I don't want to miss anything in

their life. So I'm very focused on Hey, I'm only gonna do things that keep me close to home. Now. Listen, I gotta you know, when I go on the road and yeah, you got, I got a tour, but it's but it's minimal time. It's like I get again, I get to a city Thursday, I'm home Sunday morning. It's not like eight weeks away. I'll never do that, you know. So yeah, so I think that was the big thing. Big thing that changed in my career was my mindset of I will only put my career in the hands

of my fans. I will not. I will. And I also caught even on the TV shows I do. It's like, listen, if you don't like the way I understand, you can't say certain words on television. I get that. But if you're gonna dumb down my comedy to a point that I'm not happy with me anymore, I'm off the show you consume me, I mean, I don't care. You know, Hey, what have you'll, Bootleg keV gott to stop the interview to tell you about our newest sponsor. Man shout out

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And and and and and and you know, it was one of those things where I was like, yo, like, I I is that worth six weeks away from my kids? That worth missing six track practices a birthday? You know? Uh? Is it worth? Uh? Three movie nights? Is it? Is? It? Is it worth all that? And I was like, you know, we're not struggling financially right now or anything we want.

And I and you know what's great. You know what's the best part about all this too, is I can have say what I want right to my fans who care, have some financial freedom and flexibility to my fans give me. And the best part is I also have my anonymity. When I walk down the street, I get noticed maybe two or three times. But it's a beautiful thing. But it's like, but even if I did do even if I said something out of context on a tweet, right, nobody,

no one's coming to me. It doesn't care. They'd be like, oh, what does he have a fucking podcast where he sits down with T T. Jerry and Chrissy Cass. They'd be like, this is not big enough. Now. If you get in a movie, if you get on a big take, now they start to want to they have shit to take from you now. But if you don't give them that, then what do they have to take? They had something where they were on your ass recently, you were on TikTok. Yeah,

was it like a Latin joke or something? I don't think. I think I think people took out of context and they don't realize you're married to a Latin woman. Yeah, so that but it's interesting, So that happened. You know, the Mexican community was coming after me, and I understood the wording of that joke because basically what I was trying to say was it's basically it was a whole made up scenario. So what I was trying to say was is that t T. Jerry, who if you don't know,

she's on my podcast. She's transgender Latino woman did twenty years in prison, you know, Puerto Rican. Like she's like, you know, it's it's it's my wife's uncle and she's actually my kid's godmother now and you know whatever, she's my family and so so we you know, say wild

shit on the pod together. But we were saying that there was a guy was fixing my friend, family friend was fixing an air conditioner unit in my in my attic, and his foot went through the ceiling right, So I was like, and he said, he was like, he was like, oh shit, he goes, I'm sorry. I was like, yeah, whatever, just patch it up. And then and then he goes and then he goes. He was like, he's Spanish, but he was like, oh, I don't have my papers. I don't have my papers and then like so we were

just like joking around like that and all laughing. So then I went on the podcast the next day. And that's what it is, like, you take scenarios like that and you make bits of it. That's even in a podcast, people like, hey, what you said about X, Y and Z that you know sometimes my family called me like that's not true. I'm not This isn't therapy, right, doing

a show, so we're entertaining people. So what happened was I said on the podcast, I said, oh, you know, like a Mexican worker felt through my ceiling yesterday, and I was like, you know, I was like, you know, he said that his neck hurt. And then T. T. Jerry went up there and was like, I said that he felt through this. What I meant to say was he fell through the ceiling. And then twenty minutes later, all of a sudden, he said it's neck hurt. And then T. T. Jerry went up the stairs like, oh,

your neck hurt. Where's your papers? And then he was like I don't have papers and he was like th bah like that. So but the way that TikTok came out was I didn't say the twenty minute part and I just did a word right. So it sounded like, especially if you don't know me, sounds like this white guy is here talking about the Latino community and all the It got to the point where like people are like, somebody goes, we found the worker. We're gonna we're gonna

found him. Some lady some like famous Mexican American attorney or I guess famous on TikTok was like we messaged me. They're like, we found the worker. We are going to represent him for free or assist grants. I was like, the worker is literally a dummy from Staten Island who was a family friend. Like what, there's no work for them? You didn't fud there's no worker. So I texted his name is Anthony. I was like anybody reached out to.

He was like I don't even have his cell phone, like you know, like so like it's just like stupid and then these people attack. So but then it's interesting because it's just a micro cosm like social media. It's just a microcosm people because you think they're like, oh, people were like sending me like death threats. Right, and then I did shows coincidentally, I think three weeks later in in the not the Irvine was Yeah, it was the Irvine improv. Yah. It's a huge Mexican of course

community in that area. Bro. The producer, I'm sorry, the manager of the club you know is beautiful sold out shows, thanking to people of Irvine for of course, you know, it's like all the shows put together. It's like three thousand tickets. It's like a big ass venue. Like I

did six six shows, five hundred people each show. He told me he was like, other than Felipe A Sparza, who's a huge Mexican media, La goes, you have the most Mexican fans I've ever seen in this venue, and all of them love none of them even, none of them even saw that TikTok or barely any of them, kid, And the ones that did were like, like, yo, it's

fucking hilarious. That's the thing about the internet is like you can't take it too serious because it's always the really loud minority and like you always think in your head, everybody saw this, when you're really not that many people in your real life or fans really actually give a fuck or yeah, because you have to also understand, you have to understand the mindset of someone on social media. For you to even both ways and listen, it's all good.

I you know, will appreciate it, like whatever, But for you to comment negatively on someone's Instagram or TikTok publicly or positively, it's a little bit like most people don't give a fuck at all, Right, most people are like, yeah, I just move on with my shit. Like I would comment on something you because we know each other. But for random people to comment or send you DMS positive or negative is a little like it's just strange. And

most most people, most people don't care. Most people didn't even see that TikTok, or they did, they didn't give a shit, and they bought a ticket because they liked me from other things, or they didn't buy a ticket. They don't like me for everything. So the people that get so wrapped up. So actually a step that I've taken is and I understand, you know, not everyone can do this. I get it to be in a fortunate position.

But I have now given the keys to my all my social media, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, everything to someone else, to a guy who works for my management company. I know him very well. He has the passwords to everything. I purposely told him do not give. I don't want to know. I don't want to have access into my own social media. You you know, if somebody like you reached out and he was like yo, and then he'll send it to me, I'm like, give him my number,

tell him to text me. We'll do things like that. But I'm like, I don't want to know because it is a thing. A lot of people talk about negative comments and how it messes with your brain chemistry one hundred percent accurate. So do positive ones? Positive ones take you out into this egotistical state where you aren't who you really are. So I said, you know what, I

don't need it anymore. It's built up to me where it's comfortable, like you know, whatever, I however many you know, one hundreds thousands are on there, it's comfortable enough for me. It's a ticket selling apparatus for me. I tell my guy what to post every day, give him the video, tell him the caption. So it is my writing and my work, of course, but I don't have any I don't know who's saying them. Even after shows, there would be a thing where I would be paralyzed. After shows.

You have a good show. Check the thirty fifty one hundred DMS. Girls, guys, I want to hang out. I want to take you to bar and I'd be, oh my god, you almost have. You know, sometimes too many options, too much choice is not freedom's you're in prison with too many choices. That's that's a thing where It's like I felt like the less I have, the less people

that have access to me, the freer I am. So I was like, now, the only people that have access to me is if you have my number or my email, if you're a personal friend or family member, then we can talk. Other than that, there's a layer, there's someone, a buffer in front of it. And bro, It's made everything in my life so much better. From relationship with

my girl, relationship with my kids, my body. I've lost like twenty five pounds fasting working out because I'm not I'm not sucked into tocasonally phone, I'm not sucked into the toxicity of it. Even you know, yes, yes, women, you know all that stuff, you know, because sex is an addiction, like anything else that gets you in trouble.

Of course, comparison, you know, my one of my favorite quotes I just did a video about it from Teddy Roosevelt, who says, well, oh my fault, you know these guys crying. One of my favorite quotes from Teddy Roosevelt is is a comparison is the thief of joy? Oh yes, it's the worst. Yeah. So I don't compare myself to my peers. I don't know what my peers are doing. I'm happy for whatever they're doing. I only I compare me to me. Even on social media, sometimes you compare you to you,

and that's not good. Either. You'll look at a picture or video of yourself from ten months ago and be like, why don't Why don't I look like that anymore? Or I was more popping back then. It's all bullshit. So I just stay for me. I've made a decision. I only care. I also don't want someone on the other side of the world to influence my day. I don't.

They don't know me, I don't know them. So I made another choice where I was like, I'm only going to deal with the opinions of the people in the room with me or my friends and family, those people I would care about if I'm being a physical presence or a friends, but some other person writing something on YouTube or Instagram, I don't give it. I don't give it my headspace anymore. And some people are strong enough

to say, well, I just won't look I wasn't. I had to just look myself in the mirror and say, you're too much of a pussy Chris, you need to get rid of it. So I just I didn't delete it because I you know, again, it's a ticket selling out there, it's part of your but I don't have any access to it. So like, if you DM me people in my life who you know, communicating with, who do have my number? Like, yo, are you mad at me? You don't respond to my dms anymore? I'm like, bro,

you gotta text me. I don't have any information. I don't even have a way into that anymore. And you know, I know that you know that not everybody has to do that, But for me, I've only seen positive change since I've gotten less, like less on social media and more focusing on the people in front of me. Yeah. The screen time thing, when you look at your screen time, it's kind of like a rude awakening you're life. Fuck, I said, how much time looking at this fucking thing? Yeah? Yeah,

it's crazy. Yeah, and you know it's weird. It's because it's like, you know, my head is up more, I'm looking around more. You know, there's been times where you know, I would even see somebody's you know, a peer of minds, a great video that they posted or whatever, and I'm like, I'll call my guy right away, Like yo, we gotta make something, like you know, and then that making something, yeah, maybe would have pushed things a little further or maybe not.

But in order to make that, I then would have to skip out on dinner with my family. Where now I do my work for the day, I spent my time and then it's done, and then I and then whatever happens happens, like whatever it may be may be because I'm like, you know, you only get one spin around this planet. So I'm like, I'm like, I don't want to. The thing that I know you'll never get back is time. And especially you know, for those of us, of our children, I'm like, I'm never gonna get They'll

never be little again. There will be a time where they don't they don't want us. Yeah, they're gonna be like you're gross, go away, you're cringey. Yeah. And I'm like, listen, you got hot friends, man, you know, like they're nineteen, bring them over. Yeah, no, no, no, no, but but but so right now though, I mean listen, and of course it's like, you know, you gotta work. I'm happy to work. My my career makes me happy. You know, you got we have to be happy first, So we

can make the rest of our families happy. But I right now, I'm just like yeah, man, like I uh, you know, I pick and choose what it is I want to do and and uh. But the getting off social media has helped me like tremendously. I genuinely in my heart believe that whatever it is, fifty years from now, social media will be looked at as toxic and cancerus as smoking cigarettes were back in the day. Like I think it's I think it's a similar thing. It's a

different thing. It's not causing lung cancer, right, but it is causing a decay in society. And I would a laser depression depression I cannot. I would. I would imagine I would be willing to bet everything that suicide rates being as high as av ours is directly linked to social media. And I think that the people at these social media companies know that. And I think that it's you know, it's it's an algorithm. It's they're feeding on

our our social capabilities. Is it's money to them, so that they they're they're they're gambling on you know what we're gonna are, you know, predicting our moves and making money off it. So I get it, but I don't want to be a part of it anymore, you know, or as little of a stop man. Yeah, what, I kill myself tonight. Just blow my head off, Jesus yo, let me Because so you're a white man who's with a Puerto Rican link. I'm a biological white male. Yes,

so am I talk to. I don't have a lot of people who I can relate to go into the Latin, the Latino my wife's side of the family's family events, parties, and being the only white guy there. Yes, and like you're kind of like Kevin, Yeah, it's it's. Here's the thing. It's one of those things where, you know, a lot of times the family speaking Spanish most of the time, including my seven year old daughter, will just start talking to me sometimes in Spanish and I'm like, did you

just have a stroke? I don't know what you're saying at all, and and uh and you know, getting used to the culture and the food, you know, the first time, the first time I ever had by aa uh yes, and yeah that and and and uh what's uh ben the pork that was? I mean, I loved it delicious, but I genuinely ship blood. And because my Germanic GI system was like, what did you just do? Did you just We've never seen this. We can process it. We

need to bleed, we need to bleed. But it's the food is so good that you just go back for more. And I gotta be honest, man, I've love the Latino culture so much. Always happy, yeah, you know, always vibrant, dancing, you know, best food, hottest world, tit tats. I love it. Yeah, you know everybody you know, the most beautiful women in the world. To me, literally, I would say the most beautiful women and men. My girls family are just the

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what's wrong with them? Like, oh, yeah, yeah, well that's it's you know, see that's the thing. Well, because you're obviously heavily in the music game, it's an interesting thing. Society. Comics talk at this. When I think about this a lot, it's like a comic, right, will get scrutinized for word, you know, this joke or that joke or you know, Kevin Hart a homophobe tweet, can't holst the oscar or whatever.

But then on that same show they have like eminem On who does rap lyrics about killing his ex wife and put a ripping. So you're like, how come rap gets a pass and and and comics don't. It's it's this thing in society that no one can really explain, and I think that it's interesting, Like you know, like like sometimes I feel like yo, as as as a white guy, sometimes I'm like yo, man, especially in this like if I say anything, oh, homophobe, You're a racist,

and I'm like yo. Honestly, the most homophobic racist people I've ever met my life are not white, dude. They are Latino and black. Some of the Latino and black people i've met him like, well, are you a Nazi? You can't say that, you know, but it's true. You're so right. No, It's like, I'm like, but I'm the fucking bad guy. I'm like, holy shit, Like you can't. You can't. Most homophobic people in my life are definitely

people of color. Yeah, a who hundred percent, dude. Some of the shit that I've heard at family barbecues on my girl. So and I'm like, I literally I want to call my sanatar. I'm like, I'm like, I'm gonna I'm contacting the police. But you know, I'm the one with fucking Hitler head, so I'd be in trouble for it. But I'm like, but I'm like, yo, But it's one

of those things where but see, that's the thing. That's the thing I think too, is you know, getting you know, dating outside your race, you realize, you know, yes, racism race, I understand that, but it's really tribalism, that's what it is. It's like people want to just they feel safe with people that look like that and sound like them and

come through the same struggles as them. So that's why you know, you'll have I believe, like you know, say, like you know, sometimes you have like Latino people that like say the N word, and you'll have a white person, Well how come they can say the ndword and I can't, Like, Well, because the Latino and black struggle is very similar in this country, where the white struggle is different. So that's why.

So it's a tribalism. They've become a tribe where they've said, hey, this it's always a white person that's that's mad about it. Always Yeah, yeah, it's a white lady, yes thirty seven, Yeah, I got a few cats. Yeah, well, I like it's funny, like as like, I guess because I, you know, have Aleena Latino culture. I always think that too. I'm like, why do white people care? I'm like, just dude, I want to tell white people just shut the fuck up. It's that guilt shit, right, Yeah, dude, It's not your

job to police everybody's feelings. I'm like, just shut up. Yeah, you're not the bar of what what's offensive? Yeah, like if a white person is more offended than the person the joke's actually about, Like it's probably a good joke. Yeah, it's it's it's it's one of those you know, it's funny. I was in an and it's crazy and I didn't make I didn't say anything, but I was about to like make like a bit about it, so so in

the room. So literally I was in you know swag right, what great friend of mine Sway is Like I hosted a show in twenty fourteen on MTV with Sway. I was the cat. Nobody watched it, but it was called off the bat. But Anyway, Sway taught me so much knowledge about like hosting the show and being on camera and just being in this world. Sway is like, I love Sway. I think he might be the father of my youngest kid and and I love it. Please you know, she misses you so so Sway. Sway is the best.

But I remember I was in Sway in the Morning, yeah, you know, as a guest on on his series show when the whole Esse Smolette Oh thing broke right and I was in there, white guy, you know, you know, all black casts everybody, and they're and they're they're they're just Slett and Tracy's reading it and she's like, you know, and it's horrible, and it's like that fucking energy in

there is like oh shit. And then they say they're like, you know, uh, Jesse Smolette was was you know, attacked beaten by two white you know that they were saying time two white men and they were like, you know, you know, they they threw acid at him and a news and they say, you must be you're that You're that guy from Empire, you know whatever, You're that those

rednecks wash Empire. You're that guy from Empire, and so at that point I was about to say I don't think that's real because no white people watch Empire, and and then I didn't say it. And if I would have said it, then it would I would have been like thrown down street and eyes I like gotten canceled. What Literally? I would have been right wou right, because when I heard that story, I was like, everything, everything checks out, but not that yeah, because my comic mind

was like anybody with the maga hats not watching an Empire. Yeah, I was like, this is a hoax, but you know, it was funny like and sometimes I'm like, yoah, I should have just did the joke man on a comic. But then I was like, yoh, I love sway and that it cost you your friendship for a few minutes. You did it, yeah, exactly what it costed my friendship

for about six months. And I'd be like, come on, come on, you know right yeah yeah, but but but it was one of those things where I remember that moment being like yo uh, but but yeah, man, I think too. With comedy, you know, it's the beautiful thing about being a comic is my show's man. I got it. The thing that one of the things I'm most proud of. It's very culturally diverse arty. It's like a community college. When you come to my shows. Everybody's out there, all

different religions, races. It's it's dope. So because I think, you know, comedy is one of those things where it's like we just go up there confident with the jokes. Comedy is not supposed like when people get mad at comics, there's such fucking nerds because it's like the comic is the member of society. It's supposed to say the thing sposed to anything nobody else could say, because it's an outlet.

That's why we do it in dark, dingy basements. I'm not telling you go tell your friends at the water cooler, fucking dummy. But you know, like so so I think though for the most part too, at least with comics. You know, if it's just words, actions, aren't you know u uh, you know, you do some criminal shit that's the eyes of the law. But comics with words, I think it's happening less and less with the quote unquote

cancel stuff because it's like, yo, we're coming. In my opinion, you cannot be funny and hateful, like you're one of the other. Like you know, Hitler wasn't funny, Chase all hate. So it's like if you're funny and and and the joke comes off wrong. That's why comedy is subjective. It may not be for you. That's fine. It's intent based. It's like, what was your intent with It wasn't to like be hatefuler to be r hurt feelings. It was

to make light of something everyone's thinking about anyway. Yeah, because you got to understand too, man, like any big uprising, you know, I love here's a big history fan. You

cannot you know, like silence comics and artists. You can't do that because I'm telling you when it comes down to it, like you know, in the Holocaust, you know they killed the artists in comic they killed them first because they don't want you know, they don't these regime doesn't want people talking and open you know, dialogue like we have what we have in this country right now is such a beautiful thing. You can you can, we can have differences of opinions, you know, we all that stuff,

you know, like like this discourse. That's like fine, but these groups of people that want to you know, like, you know, they'll say silence is violence unless I speak up and say what you don't want me to say, then you try to silence me. So the premise of

it doesn't make any sense to me. It never did, so I'm like, so I'm like, as a comic, I'm like, yo, we got to all just keep talking about whatever it is you want to talk about because you need us, you know, just like we need musicians and all that, and the people try to silence like, I don't know why.

At times, politicians, you know, will get you know, comics will get treated like politicians, and politicians will get treated like comics, like as a comic, that's true, you know, it's I mean, think about the Trump shit he got the past, like he was a comedian for so much of the shit he said, yeah, and then there'll be comedians around that same time that Kevin Hart thing has yeah, where it's like wait, which one is which? Yeah, Like like it's almost like this this little like defect in

society where it's like what you're attacking like the wrong people? Man, Like I'm a comic, I'm not I'm not trying. I don't have anything to do with Congress like, you know, but but the the people had something to do Congress, like you said, the free So it's just been an

interesting thing. But that's why. But I think, you know, again, turning to an audience and a fan base that just likes what I do, it's almost like, well, you know, I think this idea of being generically famous isn't realistic anymore, Like you're not good, We're too much of a niche society. Now. I think the same with music and comedy and movies. It's like, you know, it's it's only for a certain

group of people, but go for that. I mean, you know, now, these movies that win you know, Oscars, most somebody's never seen them or we don't know, you know, you you don't know. Yeah, they'll announced the best pictures of the year, and I'm like, I've never because it's because it's not for us. It's for that niche, right, you know. Right, So, so so it's an interesting, interesting thing. How did you end up linking up with I'm a huge Impractical Jokers fan.

The best me and my son's like favorite show since like season one, since I remember watching Impractical Jokers when my kid was like eight, and now he's like seventeen. Yeah, I've seen probably every episode. Yeah, and when Sal started doing the podcast thing, I loved it. And yeah, you guys obviously have a great dynamic. How did you guys link up? So we started hey babe about two years ago.

We were been for so Sal. You know, Impractical Jokers was huge, and then Sal So Sally used to run a show at this place on Staten Island called Cargo, where he was not dude, He hadn't even made Impractical Jokers that he was literally the bar owner and bartender that ran a comedy show. And all us comics would come to his comedy show and be like, Yo, this guy's great, and then all of a sudden, I'm nowhere went They were like, is that the guy that owns Cargo?

He has a TV show? Like you don't men know he did comedy? Yeah, and then and then and then he comes out obviously hit show. Say with me, I mean my kids that you're young, but I watched that show and die laughing. I would watch it with my dad. Good it's well, I mean it's because a lot of times, like you know, we of course we always support our friends in comedy. They got a Netflix show whatever, and we watch it, you know, to give him the views

and whatever help. But Impractical Jokers is like, I genuinely watch it because I'm like, this makes me feel better about my day when I can just laugh at and you can watch it with any Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, it's not like back in the day when I was like in high school, Like I couldn't watch Jackass with my parents, No, no no, no, I could Watchhi Practical Jokers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's mostly who I watch it with is my parents,

and you know, we get along. But but sal in twenty fourteen, I was doing a show at at Caroline's and he came and and you know, we we we knew each other just through social media, but then we started to like actually become friends and we hung would hang out all the time, you know, he would always throw the big Super Bowl party at his house and

would see him all the time. And then he started doing stand up, you know, and then as he started doing stand up, we started I started see him at the clubs, and you know, he's become like this great stand up now. And then two years ago we were just like, you know, pandemic happ and we're like Yo. We we hang out like every weekend and just talk shit for six hours and die lafting. Why don't we just make this a pod? Yeah? Why are you going

to make this a pod? Yeah? And then we just did it, you know, found the place, did it, and and you know, and now it literally doing hey babe, you know Chrissy Chaos. I love doing but you know, it's all on me. It's it's like it's usually just me or or or you know, a lot of times you don't have a guest. And I love doing it.

I have fun, but it's a lot of work where hey Babe is literally just we go in there where most of the time ninety nine percent of the time no plan other than hey, we're going to catch up on camra on camera, and that's what it is. So so that that's that literally, that podcast literally is Salinized Friendship since twenty fourteen, just on display. That's all it is. When Joe leaves the show, do the fans like start this this this campaign to maybe the fourth guy. I

got so many messages my agent got. It was constant, like Chris, Chris, Chris. And then I spoke to sal about it, and I said to sal I said the beauty of and he of course agreed. And they you know, the plan that they have now is working where they get like posting guests. Yeah, that method, man, and that that works beautiful because the thing is like, you know, these these networks would try to recreate in practical jokers

and because it was such a mega hit. The reason why it was a mega hit is because their friendship started at fourteen years old, right, So don't throw someone like me in or another one of you know, our comedy peers. I'm not friendship and the same chemistry, thirty years of chemistry that cannot be duplicated by anyone else unless there's four group of friends that have that mindset that so you can't just reproduce that that is their

friendship on display that I'm not a part of. So it's like the way they're doing it now is just to have an outside guy in just once in a while. That's cool. It's it's the smart that's cool. I hope Joe ens up coming coming back. He's so on TikTok. I know, dude, he's the best on TikTok, the best. Yeah, Joe Joe is I mean, he was my favorite. Yeah it, Madiac. You know what's crazy too about you know, being with Sal because I I used to open for Sal. I would open for Sal a lot over the last few years.

But you know now now we both do our own headline things. But but but Sal, you know what I would be with him? It's crazy how like you know, he would have all his fans, Like it almost feels like all four of them each have the same amount fans, but they're all different groups of people, Like you got the Q fans, You've got the Murph fans, You've got the Soald fans, you got the Joe fans. They all

collectively love all four of them. But it's like, you know, ten million people love Sal, ten love Joe ten love. It's it's like a wild thing, how like their their fame is literally split four ways evenly. It's also like it's pretty wild that like, somehow they have had the biggest comedy series. I don't know, it feels like in

a long time. It is. This is a fact in the top five biggest comedy shows of all time, including Seinfeld, they have while they're the arena tours, the cruise and somehow I feel like they don't get the respect or or the like recognition that they deserve. Yeah, it's it's one of I think it's because like what I noticed, like when when people come up to Sound the airport

and all that. First of all, you know, he gets mobbed and and and but he gets mobbed in a way that because they and they are but because on the show especially, they do such an amazing job of coming off like we're just four regular guys like yours. Like you would just come up to sal and be like, I love you man, Is this a joke or touchy or whatever, because that's just one of the guys. Wow.

We would do that to Kevin Hark because there's a wall you're like, no, it's a movie story, you know, or the rock or something like that, where Sally You're like, oh, I just saw him. He was just he was giving somebody who went story. Yeah. Yeah. Like so so it's

this fame that's like, it's it's very different. And I think that aspect of it causes sometimes these you know, media conglomerates to like like they should be winning all the Comedy Emmys and all that their shows are the biggest, the funniest, you know, so so, but but listen, you know, I can promise you that them practical jokers are doing very well. Yeah, have you done it? Have you done

the cruise yet? I did the cruise. I did the cruise in February of twenty twenty when literally the same cruise right, a boat that left the same time as us from a couple of bays down starting COVID. They got locked on the boat in whatever their destination was for three weeks. They were on the same day you dodged a fucking dodge a COVID bullet. Geez. Yeah, but it was fun. So I did the last one. I don't know if the cruise industry is even coming back.

I don't know if they're gonna do another one. You know, I've never been on a cruise, and there's just something about Yeah, it's just it's just to me, it's like, why would I go trap myself on a boat for six hundred dollars for a week. Well, it was interesting because you know, the rooms or one of the rooms that I was in, had a GP had the boat's GPS in it by one of the teams, and you

went from Miami to the Bahamas. But that trip only takes like six hours, but you're in the middle of the sea for three days, so it literally is just making circles and going up and down and left and right for a day. I'm like, this is so dumb. You're killing all these fish, like this is dumb, and these people are just eating on the buffet, like just just hoarding all this food. And yeah, no, it was.

It was one of those things where I was like, you know, of course happy to do it, but I was like, one of those things, I'm happy I experienced it. Don't know that I've never taking a wife and kids on one of these No, they don't want to go. No, they know that when we no, no, I take them to Puerto Rico, and then that's fun. The last time we went to Puerto Rico, I thought I was gonna get sacrificed. Hey guys, we gotta stop the interview to tell you about our good folks over at blue chew

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tourists there. They were like I was the white guy that was They were like, what the fuck are you nobody spoke English or they spoke English, but it was like some of the houses didn't have electricity since the last hurricane. I was like, babe, can we just go back to San Juan. Yeah. I would just be asking everybody be like, hey, so you guys really don't pay taxes? Huh yeah, yeah nothing. I was like Berni Berni. I

just kept saying Berni acapuia, like different foods. Was there any Once you started bringing guests on your show, was your wife like a little more hesitant to have you have people just pull up to your krid. So what happened was is we had great guest. His name was John Alight wrote a book. He was like on a John Gott. He's like henchman, right, like beat people to death with a baseball bat right at your house at so And I didn't think twice about it. Yeah, I

literally can't. And Jazz, you know, she could hear from the kitchen, like and he was being hilarious. I had like lemon shirt on. He was like, well, fucking nice, Land, I should hit those lemons doing I'm bat you know, like just telling us like things. He's like, yeah, one time I was killing a guy was kind of his body. I had to take his shit. I shit in the woods. And she's just like literally, our baby was like three months old. She's like feeding the baby and then like

we're having fun. I thought it was great, like, you know, pack up whatever. I'm like, Jazz, I mean, how great was that? Pods going to get a fucking million views? I mean how great was that? She was like, did you think that it was a good idea to bring a man who was admitted to multiple murders to our house with our daughters? Did you think that that was a good idea at all? And I was like, yeah, it's for the podcast, and she was like it wasn't smart.

She goes, never ever bring a murderer to this house again, that's a fay, that's a fair requil. I was like, you know what, babe, I understand. I think what you say. It is right. I'm a sleep the couch tonight and good. But when she put it to me like that, she's like, our daughters are six and one and you have a murderer in their living room, yeah, where they sit and sleep, And did you think about that at all? This is our home? And then I was like, oh, I'll get

a podcast. Yeah, now you get the studio. Now yours from From what I remember, I listened to your episode with with Rogan, your dad was kind of like a like a pretty tough guy, right, one of those like vintage New York tough guys. Yes, back in the day. Now he's got you know, now he's on dialysis with two fake knees. But but but he's back in the day. You know. I think a lot of guys, you know,

he's from the Bronx. I think a lot of guys in the seventies, eighties, even early nineties got mixed up with those guys, you know, gambling, right, and and and running around and it's just an easy way to make money. Like, hey, you know you you work for this family. You know, go pick up this gambling debt, that gambling debt. So you get to know those guys. Not that he was ever a maid guy or whatever, right, but you get to know those guys. You get to know those circles,

you know, those people. Was collecting money, yeah, collect yeah, yeah, pretty much like his job. I would call like it it was like a different work number every week, and somebody would just be like accounting and it was always like some guy, some different guy, and I I had no idea, like so you'd have to go shake down

the business owners? Yeah, I guess yeah. Because that's the thing with my dad is I never really asked too many questions on what he did, but I just like would always get I would always get like because my

parents got divorced, yeah when I was very young. Yeah, And I would always get like kind of hints of like, oh my mom doesn't like believe my dad or like my dad because like I remember one time, like being a little kid and being like dad, like you know, like it's career day tomorrow, like what do you do for like work? What's your job again? And like my mom being like my mom, she was like making dinner.

She's like I'd love to see what he says now, you know, like she's like, let's see what Tony what bullshit he accounting? Well? No, I remember he said he goes, I go, I go he works, And he said he goes, he goes. Oh, Chris, I worked for the banks. And I was like, oh, oh, you work for the bank. So I went like the banks and they just kept like, you know, making the spaghetti, and I was like you know, I was like you was just like not like just

be like okay, is that why your mom divorced him? Well, dude, no, my mom said they my mom served divorce papers to my dad when she was pregnant with me because he gambled. This was nineteen eighty four. I was I was born in eighty four. Okay, so the Jordan year he was drafted in eighty four, nineteen eighty four. There's a book I forgot what it's I think it's called Glory Years. It's about how wild the year nineteen eighty four was. I haven't read it yet, but there's like a lot

of shit that went down in nineteeny four. But so eighty four, my dad, you know, bad gambler or whatever, took like eight thousand dollars of like my of their like ten thousand dollars savings and bettered on like the Montreal expos like some bullshit and random thig and they lost and then so and then I think what happened was is my somebody called my dad didn't pay up, and somebody called my mom at like whatever it is,

ten pm and was like where's the money. I know you're pregnant you don't want to fall down a flight to stays like shit like that. And then my mom took me to like Lancaster, Pennsylvania, like we got got to get out of die, got out of dogs, came back, gave birth and then I think that was like the beginning of the end. And then uh but but but my dad always says, he's like, you know, when you were born like that was like that's when I feel

like I hit the lotto like that, like you. And then he started to like slowly get out of it all. And now I mean, I don't know anything like about I have multiple family members on my dad's side who were like murdered and stuff like that's like real on the nose, mock murdered like shot like shot and killed. Police never investigated it. So it's like you know, like sleep with the Fishes kind of Oh yeah, So I'm

like so that stuff. I'm like, oh see, that's the thing with like with like organized crime and all that, like it's it's cool and romanticizing the movies and it is it is. I get why, But when it's actually in your family, you are like, eh, who was like the closest relative to you that you that passed my uncle, so my aunt's husband. But I was again a little kid, but him and his son, my cousin was just murdered, like shot to death at work in Long Island, New Jersey.

Fock yeah dude. Yeah. Then when you look it up, it's like that there was no leads, no nothing, and then it's crazy. My aunt got and this is like a mafia thing. My aunt got I don't know for the amount of time, but like every month behind like one of the plants, give me money, bag of money, because probably the family that killed him are like, well, we gotta take care of the wife if we're gonna, yeah, take him out. See those guys. See that's the thing,

like the mafia, the Italian mafia. I understand the extortion and the crimes. I get it. I get why it's bad, I really do. But there is a little bit, there's a little code, there's a little bit of like, well it's a little bit safer when the mafia's around. They're not gonna Here's the thing is, Yes, it sucks. I gotta pay this fee, this extortion fee. That sucks. But you know what, no one's ever gonna bring to my business. No one's ever gonna hurt my kids because if they do,

they're fucking dead. And they will not mess with you unless you mess with them. At least the old guys were the new people. You know. I don't know, but the old guys, my father will always say. The only people you gotta watch out for in this world are mafia wannabes. The wanna bees are the guys who will hurt you because they don't live by the code. The guys who live by the code you never see it coming. You just get one in the back of the head.

But they would never touch you unless you did something to them, and they would, you know. I remember being in Cross Bay Boulevard to Howard Beach always would have a festival like a carnival every year, and I remember going there on some of my dad and John Gotti and his guys were handing out free candy to all the kids. I was like, this guy is fucking like Jesus. Did you did you get any candy from of course, yeah, no, we're all with all the kids. Gave it to all

the kids. He was just John Gotti. You got some the gott He's candy some mafia kids. Yeah, it was like a big deal, like the kids would there's a million kids. Did he say hi to your dad? No? I hate it's been a while. Good to see it. No, but you know it's funny. It's he didn't say it

to my dad. But when John Gotti died, his funeral was in Queen's and I remember my dad was like, you know, I lived in Queen's right, and my dad, you know, I was a teenager by then, so it's not like I knew his you know, whereabouts every second of the day. But but he called me. He's like, I'm in Queens. You want to get a slice of pizza. I'll meet you by your mother's house. And I was like, oh cool. And then I I remember said it was like,

why arean Queen's a guy friend died. I went to their funeral, and I was like, oh, because I know that, But but I never asked, like, but it could not, it could not. It could have been coincident. I'm like, Dad, yeah, you're on dialysis, you got two old knees or new knees. Whatever. Yeah, let's peel back the onon. Give me some of these stories. I know, I know, let's do a podcast. Yeah, you

know he wouldn't. That's the thing is he wouldn't say because he's very much like, I don't want you near this, right, you know. But it was funny when I remember that day. He was like, I was at a friend's funeral. I was like, oh, John Gotti. Yeah, yeah, okay, oh man, imagine it wasn't It was just like a neighbor. Yeah, some old you just came up with this coincidence in your head. None of it's real. He's never in the mom fiets like, no and no, he actually worked for

the banks, you know. He genuinely worked for Chase. Yeah, my mother he cheated on my mom. Yeah, that's why she just fucking she just Jesus bitter. Yeah, that's all it is. What do you got coming up? Obviously you had specially West She come out this year, especially WESH on Netflix came out. That's that's still out there, And I'm proud of that one because that was all self

produced by me. That was Netflix had actually said everybody had said no to my special, like of me, did you already get that made and then take it to them pre No? So what happened was is I was before I made it. I was trying to have people come out watch my hour and this and that, and everyone was just passing on me. HBO said no, Netflix or some of them wouldn't even come out like no, I'm not looking for that. Okay, They're like, we don't

want a straight white male right in comedy. At that point, fine, I'm not complaining about it, but just what it was, right, We'll find another way, no problem. But so I got to a point where said, you know what, fuck it? What what am I even going after these corporate corporations from my whole mindset from day one, like I and in the beginning of this podcast has been give it to your fans. So I said, you know what, I'm gonna put this shit on YouTube. I'm gonna self produce it.

Did it what with my guy Mike Lavin, the homeless pimp who does all my podcasts. I said, he's going to direct it, film it. We're doing it that way. Whatever, So it filmed it. All these companies had said no, and then my agent was like, listen, I think this is a great special. Let me at least just put this in Netflix's hands now that the product is finished, and we'll see what they say. Day later they call Netflix wants it. So I said, so I get on

the phone with Netflix. You know, you have to talk to him, and they said, hey, you know, we want it. I said great, I said, you guys can have it. I appreciate it, but you have to take it as is. And they were like, well, at the end of the special, you shit on Netflix. I was like, you have to take it as is or I'm just gonna put it on YouTube, and they're like, the only thing we want is obviously to edit out the Netflix stuff. I said,

you have to take it as is. If you do not, if that's edited out, then I will put it on YouTube. I don't care, I said. I respect Netflix, I really do. I was like, my kids fucking love Cocoa Melas, but I literally don't care at all if my thing is on this platform, and right it's for the fans. So either keep it in or I will put it on YouTube in a week. It doesn't matter to me. And then they were like, okay, let us check with the high ups. And then the high ups stay and give

a fuck. They were like, just put it on as is then, so so I was like, so that's what it is. So if you watch my special. At the end, I just I'm kind of like, you know, I did this for you guys. Yeah, fucking fuck Netflix. But if you guys want to buy it, I'll sell it to you. Yeah, you know, like I say that at the end and it's in. So I'm proud of that. And then the you know, the next special. I'm going to do another special in about six to eight months, but the plan

will be the same. Give it to the people and you know, if once in, they can get in. If not, it's going straight to the people. Hey, we got to stop the interview real quick to tell you about our partners at odds Sucks are presenting sponsor here at the Bootleg Hit Podcast. Listen, Christmas times approaching faster than you think. I mean, we're like fucking a month and a half away or some shit whatever. Get some odd socks for

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is is it's like a metaphor for life too. It's like there's nothing, there's nothing to get any nobody can give you anything anymore like there, especially in entertainment, like nobody can give you anything. You can only do it yourself and put it out yourself. There's people are like, oh, I want to get something, there's nothing to get You have to you have to make it happen and put it out. That's this is the only way. Like even now,

you know, take someone like like Aaron YOUW. Schultz who's made his whole career and living off just putting his things out. Now, the movies and TV shows come to him because there was nothing they could give him. He had he had to do it, and then they see, oh we want that so so so that's a mindset that you know, I hope my daughters don't have to do comedy, but I hope they if they're gonna take anything from me and be like, oh, you know, we we have to create things and we have to do things.

There's nobody's gonna give you anything in this world. You gotta you gotta make it, and then you know, let somebody you know buy it from you. Last couple of things, give me your all time Mount Rushmore of comedy, Mount Rushmore of comedy, Mount Rushmore of Bill Burr. I like Bill Burr, Louis c K, Dave Chappelle, and and you know who is one of the most underrated comics of Not that he's underrated, he's wildly famous, but people don't know about his stand up Jamie Fox. Oh yeah, I

might need security, dude. That's one of my favorite stand ups, bro, that is his I believe that Jamie Fox is the just if we're just talking about talent across the board in the arts, he is the number one most talented person I've ever seen in my entire life of my generation is high level acting, high level comedy, high level music music. Yep. The only other person who's in that conversation I think is is Chris Brown. Yes, and justin Timberlake is was very good on SNL and all that,

and obviously you know acting. But but Chris Brown, Yeah, very funny, but you know, very talented. But but for me, what I mean punch mean punch, Yeah, great boxer, great boxer, and dance. Yeah, can paint. I love it. He can paint. He's does like full murals on walls and shit. Really yeah, he's autistic. He can hoop, Kenny hoop, He's like a really good hooper. He can rap, he can sing. His acting's okay, Jamie though, I think does the most things at a high level. Yeah, Jamie Fox. To me, it's

just it's just he's so talented. It like it makes you want to like quit, like where you're like, well, I'll never be as good as him. But but but but you know now I'm just like, eh again, I just what about at this very moment, who do you think are the funniest comedians in the world right now, right now, The funniest comedians. I like Shane Gillis, He's hilarious. Shane Gillis I think makes me laugh, Mark normand Mark sam Morril I die laughing at. And who else? Uh,

Stavros Jlikas is a guy, he's great, stave baby. I love bad for that guy. Every time that Ravens lose, he's like melts down on fucking Instagram. You know he's fuck but I know he can't get any more bald. Yeah. Uh. And then and then there's a guy who I just I watch his stuff and I cry laughing as a Kyle Dunagan. He makes these unbelievable sketches. And then uh, yeah, there's this kid, Eric Delessandro who makes these sketches on Instagram at that very New York base. I really like that.

But yeah, those, you know, And and because you know, it's hard with my peers and stand up that, you know, because like we're all kind of not competing with each other, but it's tough to like get in a zone that just breaks down where like we can laugh because you know, a comic peer of mind will make a great joke and I'll be like shit, instead of laughing, I'm like why did I think of that. Why don't I have a premise like that. It's very difficult to separate. It's like,

you know, an athlete watching another athlete. Yeah, they're admiring them, but they're also like, you know, I gotta step my game up. It's hard to just sit back and enjoy. But yeah, though I think those people are you know, they just make me like Bobby Lee. He's die laughing.

And Bobby Lee doesn't have a special no. Yeah, Like there's a lot of people say he just has been doing the same like hour for like ever, you know, I to be fair, I haven't seen Bobby Lee's most recent stand up, but the thing is, every time I see him, it's just so over the top funny that even if it was the same material, I don't notice. I loved the podcast like Tiger Fell. Yeah, David Tell is like that. David Tell is another guy in the

Mount Rushmore of comics. Like David Tell and Colin Quinn from the Mount Rushmore of comics to me as well. But Attel only has one or two specials and Colin has uh like one man shows, but only one or two actual stuff that shows about history that are brilliant. They're great, but it's just one man shows. So so you know, it's this interesting thing where like sometimes people don't put out a whole you know, a whole bunch

of stuff. That's that's fair. Last thing you went on Rogan obviously that seems to be kind of like a turning point for every comedian. Like once you get the invite to Austin, you go down there and you see Joe. Did you first of all, how was the experience? Did he did he give you any game? And did you notice kind of things uptick after? You know it's getting on Rogan when I did so, It's fantastic to do Rogan.

I'm always do it. But it's weird that, like, you know, first of all, when I met him, it was cool because you know, he he asked, you know, me to come on, which is different when you asked them when they ask him to come on. That that's the way you want it. Of course, you know, he showed me his whole facility and he's like kicking He's like, you know, he's like a great like boxer and kickbox He's like kicking this fucking heavy bag. Like I'm like this guy

gonna kick my head off on the show. I'm like, this is I'm intimidated, you know. He's like, this is my cryo chamber. I'm like, are we going to go in it? Or do you want to do pod? Like it was like two hours. I'm like, this is what I kill was the tour, I was like, yeah, I'm a man's man, yeah, which I was like, all right, I had like on a flowered shirt. I was like, well, I don't know, yeah, I'm gay and and and it's interesting,

you know, I did the show. I did you know, you know, to do I did like three and a half hours with him, Like the longest I ever doing a podcast is like an hour, because like what can you even talk about? But for him, it's like he's so good at like just keeping the convo going, like you'll say something and then he's because he's listening. The thing is is like you're very good at it too,

Like you're just like listening. You're not worried about like what he's going to say, Like he's like I'm just listening to you and then going off you is very natural, very calming. But you know, it's it's weird. It's that you know, by the time I got to do Joe Rogan. You know, I had had to get my fans kind of the hard way and kind of get them one by one by one. So I don't know that too many people heard me on Joe Rogan that didn't already kind of make a decision on me whether they liked

me or not. Maybe I was able to get some people who didn't initially like me to like me and follow But I didn't notice my followers go up or my ticket numbers. Really, I didn't notice it too much.

It kind of stayed where it's at because I think that, you know, I was doing all the orbital podcasts, I was doing, doing everything I was doing, So all those people that listened to Rogan, they listen to these other guys, so they heard me on that and by that, you know, it's not like you were like like new to his audience at that point. Yeah. I mean, I'm definitely was

new to some people, of course. But also the other thing with Joe is he puts out so much content, and I understand why that you get swallowed up very easy in the algorithm. So it's like I was you had an opportunity to listen to my three and a half hours for about two days. Yeah, and then somebody else for a five hour episode came up. So so it's very difficult to listen to it all. I watched the whole thing where I listen to it, and I listened to it. It It was good. Man, there you go.

It's like like the story about your pops, Like I think he was going to see was it your principal at your school? Yeah? Yeah, that's the thing. If you google Chris to Stefano nine to eleven story, it's like the most viral thing I've ever done. I've did a stand up bit about my time on nine to eleven.

You can check it out. But it's funny, like people will come up to the stream like you're the nine to eleven guy, right, and I'm like yeah, yeah, But then people don't know what I'm talking about, Like, what are you saying you're the nine to eleven guy? It was you? Yeah, it was you. Tour seven was you. I've been laden in white face Sarah it is. Hey, Well, look I appreciate you coming through man making time. I know you got your family. Appreciate it. By Man Boom