#230 - Akaash Singh

you so much. Man. I remember like first kind of diving into like Flagrant when it was the original crew and it was like kind of like a weird sports podcast, but it evolved into something else like soup yeah, very fast. Yeah. But for people who don't know, like what were the original like, because obviously Andrew went from like guy Code to Brilliant Idiots and then launching Flagrant, what was kind

of like the original crew? Like what was the original I guess theme of the show because now it's it's it's it's its own thing. It's way different than it was. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, going super far back when Andrews started brilliant idiots. I said to him out loud, this is the only time I've ever been jealous of you, right, is when you're When he was doing the podcast with Charlemagne, and it wasn't like real jealousy, but like really, what I was

thinking in my brain was I had nothing. I wasn't on Guy Cut, it wasn't on TV, so we had to take that opportunity. Charlemagne is amazing and huge, so like, you gotta do that. But in my mind I was like, if we did a podcast, I think that shit would go right, so but I obviously go crush it. Brilliantties did great, and then when Andrews started talking about do us doing a podcast a few years later, I think

he felt like he wanted to start another thing. Also, I was obviously down and we had been kind of like brainstorming, and uh, we did a brilliantated this episode with Kaz. We thought Cas was great, so we brought him on board. And then the idea of doing sports,

which I love sports. I could talk sports, so you gotta. Yeah, you always are throwing your little tidbits in about sports that make me be like, oh, he's a real sports yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, and Andrew liked sports, but he also understood something that we had talked about, which is like, yo, we can only dip into these crazy things we say, like when we're hanging out, just saying wild jokes about whatever. But an easy entryport is sports because sports fans tend to

not get super triggered about anything. They're not it's nuts, political, it's just sports. So the idea was always too evolve it into something else. And then Alex got more and more involved, and that was amazing. He was so funny and like we would encourage him when he would chime in, we'd be like, dude, you're funny, chime in. And then Mark Andrew started working with Mark. And Mark is a brilliant kid, super funny, super talented. He's a star. And

I didn't know him that well. And he's doing stand up there he does. Yeah, he well, he started as a stand up He's been been doing stand up for years and that's how him Andrew connected. He opened for Andrew and then Andrew brought him on board. He was like, he's a smart kid. He has like good ideas for merch and all this stuff. A lot of the set design of the new set was Mark Set's crazy. Yeah, he does so much of our YouTube stuff. He's a

fucking brilliant kid. And so when Andrew was like, I want to start bringing Mark on the pot, I was like, yeah, I don't know him super well, but bring him on. And then I got to know him. He's a great kid. And it has evolved into flagrant and then when we built a new studio, we wanted to try to find a place for them as well on camera because they contribute so much off camera. Yeah, for sure, it's just

evolved into this like four guy hang. It is definitely a hang, and I love it because it is like the most saying the crazy shitne I always yeah, when the podcast is on and my wife's in the car, she's always like, what the fuck are you listening? She's like, what's wrong with it? My wife doesn't listen. There's episodes that I'm like, hey, I think you'll like this one. Yeah,

listen to this one, this one because you might divorce me. Yeah. Yeah, She's just like all right, fine, No, it's great because it's like today's uh you know, obviously climate. It's just nice to have a place where like there's just zero fuckski. Yeah, well, I think Andrew probably knew this on some level, and I maybe did, but I won't even give myself that much credit. If you think about like when somebody when there's always this like there's always too much, like there's

an over correctness for anything. Of course, there's always a little voice that's dissenting. I'm like, you don't need all this. So everybody's getting so picy and so piecey. I think we were the first, one of the first at least to be like, yo, fuck all that, let's just have fun. And if the intention is to be funny and not to hurt feelings, great, Andrew I said, judge me by my intentions, and I've always agreed with that, Like that's a comedy, right, Yeah, that's comedy. We're trying to be funny.

If I'm trying to hurt your feelings in a hateful way, then fuck me. But if we're just trying to be funny and I'm making it all funny, then great. Has ever been an episode or like a moment where you were a little nervous about whether the Cancel Culture people were coming for y'all or not Cancel Culture, or just like you know cause I feel like, obviously you come from a traditional Indian background, you know what I mean.

But there you guys be saying some shit on there. Man, you know what, I just in my mind, I'm like, my parents don't know how to use the Internet. I don't know why, but I like it. It's so stupid. But I'm like, my mom is sixty seven, she's not using she's not diving into the forty seven minute mark. Yeah. Yeah, it don't matter. So I don't ever consider it. And I've told them from the moment I started stand up.

I was like, don't watch, don't watch. Just it. Just if I'm making money, be happy for me, but please don't watch because I can't live with that because I do think about that a lot, even like the roasts, like the roast that Andrew Will do so like he just did the Kanye one. But man, some of those roast lines are fucking oh good. Yeah, the Will Smith one, Oh it was so good. Oh yeah. And I felt like we, I think we both felt personally like yo, fuck this guy. Yeah yeah, and then every he just

those roast lines were crazy. I didn't I'm not going to take credit for writing those jokes. That was him and well what like, fuck dude, those are great jokes. Yeah. The Will Smith thing was something where it was like it was kind of dope to see like just all

the comedians just kind of gang up on what on somebody? Yeah, and it was like it was done in a way that was like so like the jokes that came from were like maybe it was worth Chris Rock taking this lap comedy We got out of it like he had to sacrifice his his his dignity for a night and uh and and we got some great comedic moments from it. You know, I really think Will Smith is like he opened the floodgates for all of the attacks. Oh for sure,

what's his name? Salmon and Rusty getting some resty getting stabbed on stage. That shit's crazy. I think it's this just the girl getting the beer thrown at her. It's all open. Now. You think that kind of like had a little bit to do with like having people get a little you know obviously uh, embolden to do some shit like that. You know, this is a crazy, crazy comparison and how Columbine there weren't really school shootings and then after Columbine people were like, yo, that's a possibility.

Like like deranged people were like, oh, that's what I got. That was like the first one. Yeah, well in a much less significant and all. I'm not saying the significance is the same, but like on a smaller, much smaller level, people are comedy shows and their brain is just opening the possibility. Deranged people are like, I could fuck this guy up, and I'm a fuck up guy. Like, I'm a very fuckppable person. So I've always I kind of had an awareness of that, and like, I never wanted

to cross a line. I also don't want to be so disrespectful that you should beat me up, but you won't because I'm small and I'm that Like, I try to play with the line and I'll say it shows like, hey, if you're genuinely if you feel like I crossed the line, if you just don't want me to talk to, just give me something like this and then we'll move on. Oh like like if you do the crowd work thing, yeah yeah, but now I'm like I do it earlier.

I'm like, I need to make sure y'all are aware of this, and then if you give me this, we're not going to try to do this yeah, Columbine is kind of like the Sugar Hill Gang of school shooting for sure. Right, It's like just I said, a hip hop the first hit, the first hit, the first hip hop hit, right, it was it was like it was like the message from grand Master Flash. Good Mine is a it's a classic through the ages. It's the back

that ass up. But you know it really is. It's like weird too because now, like my I think it was one of my nieces was showing me like on TikTok, there's like a whole like underbelly of girls who are like, uh that worship like the shooters, like what I remember the names of the kids from Columbine, but like there's like a full like fan girl club of like nineteen year old girls who like, you know, fucking play with themselves while looking at pictures of these dudes or whatever.

It's pretty wild. But you know what, Andrew has a joke about this. Every school shooter says the same thing, nobody want to have sex with me. All these inseels are the ones that so these girls could be a very valuable asset. You just got to start sucking the guys. You just gotta start fucking the guys who listen to ICP and you know, fucking go on for shower, suck a couple of dicks. Somebody should do the like the four chan grinder, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, sixty nine

sixty let's do it. Oh man, So for you like talk about just like obviously your come up as a comedian. You were telling me earlier that you started doing comedy on Cali. I started in La in like oh seven, Okay, so that's damn oh seven, about fifteen years deep. Now. I did a couple of times in college, but then I really started when I was in seven. I moved to La on a whim. Just really were that or just yea before that? And I didn't know you were supposed to move to New York. But my best friend

was going there to be a cinematographer. My other best friend from college. We convinced him to go because he was going to go there in a year to be an actor and a musician. So I was like, yo, let's just all go. And then I got my mom's blessing, which was a man everything. I wouldn't have gone without that. But yeah, I started in seven, and like man, it

was rough. But then everybody told me a year and a half I was actually doing fairly well in LA open mics, and I think they looked at me not like this kid is a star, but they looked at me like, this is a kid that's going to be really funny one day, right. But the vets would tell me, specifically, the black bets would tell me, you're in the wrong place to get funny. You go to New York to get funny, and then you come to LA to get famous.

And I knew I wanted to be funny more than I wanted to be famous, as great as famous would be. I was like, I need funny. I can't live if I'm not good at comedy. I can't with myself. I'm famous and shitty a comedy. So I moved to New York and then that was That was rough, but it was very worth it. But it was rough. So originally, before you moved to Cali, where are you originally from Dallas? Oh you're from Dallas origin in Southwest I used to, uh, well,

I had a girl I was fucking with. It was a twin Peaks waitress in plant in Plano text Peaks. Oh my god, I didn't know you fucked white girls like, no, definitely not. Why really peaks lovely lovely, light skinned young sister in Plano, Texas about six years ago, shutting twin Peaks, Plano, Texas. I don't know, maybe that's odd. That's the only time I only went to I went to Dallas one time for WrestleMania in like twenty fifteen. Okay, we had a hotel in Plano. I went to a strip club that

was called Onyx. Maybe I don't know, but yeah, it was like a BYO B strip club, which they don't have. I think that's just in Texas. I've been to one a couple bring your own bottles. I had been in one strip club by the time I was like twenty seven or something. And then I got a free lap dance because I was so uncomfortable that the girl thought it was hilarious to just give me a lap dance. Yeah, the whole the strip club dynamic is interesting. It's a

terrible place. It's there's no cemetery on earth as dead as a stripper's eyes, and they just sit on your lap and just just like assume that that's what you want, and then when you say I'm good, they get up and it's like they're offended. It goes from nice to attitude so fast. It's like I'm here for chicken wings, yeah, or you know, I'm here because my friend wants to get the leg to talk to him. I'm just hanging out one hundred bachelor party ninety five percent of the time,

So what are we doing? You know? The saddest thing I remember watching the guys like put the dollar bills like on the ground or whatever. It wasn't even as sad as at the end of the song watching them scurry the strippers to pick up like eight dollars. I was like, yo, this is sad. Though. That is the most demeaning part of the strip club experience is at the end of the girl's stage, she has to bend down and I would rather if I'm a woman, I think i'd rather you put it in my fucking g

string ass crack. Then I got a scurry like a mouse, like especially if they make it rain, Like there's a there's a club in La called Sam's. It's like the middle stage is just full of like ten girls, and if I make it rain on one girl, every girl on stage has a right to any of the money that touches the stage. So when people make it rain, it's like throwing fucking pigeon food at the park. It's

fucking crazy. It's like it's like it's like the funnest strip club to go to if you really want to just be a piece of shit and watch chicks hit the floor and like dive for money. You're like, let me get a hundred once and call some fucking chaoste degenerate. That would be fun. Yeah, you know, it's not bad. So being from Dallas, you're like a Cowboys guy. Yeah, yeah,

I wish I wasn't, but I have to Mavericks. Yeah, of course, I mean Luca, you know, Luca's that's fun to root for the Cowboys twenty eight years of just tell Yeah, yeah, dude, it's so funny to watch because I still listen to a sports radio station in Dallas till this day. I mean, I'm from Phoenix, so that's what I do. I listened to my local station on tune in and then yeah, that's yeah, all I care

about is Arizona sports. I don't give a fuck about Lakers or I'm sure you don't care about the Yankees or anything. Now we don't. The NIXT being bad is funny to me, Like I would. I would like to be here when they're good because you, Yeah, when Lin Sandy happened, you could feel it right right, right, right right energy. I don't normally feel it, but when the sanity was happening, you could feel the whole city buzzing. Yeah. So the Knicks were good good, which they might be, Uh,

that'd be fun. But generally speaking, I think it's funny to watch the Knicks fan suffer. So you were here during the insanity moment? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that was as close to his Indian basketball players we've ever had, so right, Yeah, that's my guy. You guys have never had an NBA player ever. No, well, we had Nam Singh, who's in the D League, right, the guys pin Jubbie

dude like seven three where he speaks English. But you guys do have the what's the name of the wrestler, the great, the Great Colleade he's he's we also have Oh my god, I can't believe this guy's I don't remember this guy's name. He follows me on Twitter. I hung out with him. What is his name? Gender gender Mahal. Yeah, I'm a big wrestling guy. God, dude, you know my bad with him in Tampa before nice guys, dude, super guy definitely on steroids. He tells me he's not, but

I'm like, he is. It's okay. Yeah, he went from being like kind of a chubby, bigger dude. He got fired and then he bounced back and he was fucking shredded like a manie. I'm like, yo, this guy's six months the craziest turnaround them steroids was serious. His shoulders are nuts. Yeah, I'm wondering, man, because you're one of the you know, obviously you were lucky enough to be able to go on Jo's Joe Rogan's podcast. Yeah, you always hear that like he's the king maker. Yeah right,

did you notice? I mean, obviously, you guys have a crazy phone. You guys got one of the biggest patreons. You guys have your own universe. You're in, you're already selling out dates. Your special was doing well. But did you notice the like uptick in everything? Yes, after going

on the show. So my views, it was cool. It was like trending on YouTube the first couple of days and it was like then it hit like three hundred thousand and like whatever two days and then you could see a level off pik into the views on YouTube. And then the second the Rogan dropped, it doubled. It hit another three hundred thousand in the next days, and that's completely It would have done this, but with Rogan, it did this, and it was like it might even be more than like two and a half x or

whatever you see, and he's the fucking greatest. The experience is intense because like we're chilling, we're hanging out, rear leaning back. You know how how many people are listening to Rogan and he's gonna give you every ounce of attention possible. So if I don't return that, I'm a giant dickhead. You know, he's locked in. He's locked the fuck in here. And for that guy worth that much, with that much power to be locked in for two hours with you or however I don't return it, who

the fuck am I? So I was like you know what I mean, like, yeah, I went there during uh, like COVID, I went there with Freddy Gibbs, and you know, I had it in my head, Uh what I thought it might be. Yeah, but it's like kind of like in like a little like business complex where there's like a doctor's office and shit. Yeah. Yeah, I was like I was a little I was like, damn, I really expected to come to like some giant warehouse with like weights every where. I think there's a lot of shit

in the back. They're probably it is, yeah, because Andrews telling the how to get fucking swab just to walk in there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they weren't playing. They're not playing. Andrew's telling me he did like like he Joe shot like a bow and arrow from like one hundred yards out and it's just crazy hit, some crazy bullseye or something. But it was in that facility, So I think it's

a whole thing, you guys. I feel like obviously Andrew, I think I credited him to changing how people consume comedy and how they did how they think of comedy. And I think kind of the innovation, you know, I think when we go through something like COVID, right, Yeah, it kind of forces you to change your approach to

whatever your livelihood is. Yes, And I just think back to the like turn your phone this way brilliant, and how it just kind of changed just you know the way people and I know Luis c K was releasing specials on his own, but just like on the YouTube side, like I can't really think of anybody doing the YouTube. So I know in India they were doing a lot of comedy clips online because that was the only way they could do stand up right, get it out there.

But Andrew was the first guy in America, which is kind of where everybody's looking for the guiding light of stand up to be like, yo, nobody's buying the special, I'm just gonna put it out online. And if it wasn't for that, I would not only because he's done so much for me, but like I wouldn't be able to sell in tickets on my own because now I'm selling tickets through just stand up clips because I saw that model. So I'm like, oh, and now you're scrolling

through ig. It's nauseating how much stand up there is, and that's all. It is very nauseating for sure. Because I follow a lot of comedian I'm like, fuck, everybody's got a fucking even some of these guys are just not funny. It's they absolutely should do it. You gotta do it. But sometimes I'll see the crowd work stuff and I'll be like, oh, yeah, the crowd. Yeah, it's rough, it's rough. Luckily we were forged in the comedy club where we came up with wasn't even a comedy club.

It's called the Village. Lantern is a bar upstairs and the announcers in the basement. There was nobody there and they would just let us do stand up. We would get people off the street, bring them down. If you had five people, you could do a show. But five people, I can't do my bits for five people. You got to interact. You gotta interact with those people. Yeah, I was. I think it's even three people sometimes and they'd be looking at me like, are you fucking is this? Are

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Does it take away from the comedy because it's so much bandwidth towards that or do you feel like they kind of like one hand washes the other, one hand washed the other. But the struggle being married and trying to be a good husband. Of course, I'll lamp Sunday from his weekend of doing shows. We'll have a call about Monday's episode months so I prep for that when I get home, spend like an hour of my wife prep for the episode Monday, the episode Tuesday, and spend

all the time my wife. Hopefully Monday night. Tuesday, we got two episodes on the next day sometimes, so I'll do that, or I'm doing like voiceover for a Hulu show or a Netflix show, so I'll do both of those, or you know, just the prep. Then Wednesday, two episodes, then Thursday, I'm out of town for shows. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, damn long. Your marriage is gonna last with all. That's the thing. I don't want to be the guy. I want to be the greatest comic ever, But I don't

want to be the greatest comic ever alone. That's the saddest shit in the world to me is these guys who are all the way up not the saddest, but I don't think it's worth it. Yeah, you see guys like I mean not even to say names, but you see guys who get divorced and they're like, yeah, you're that motherfucker, but you're also kind of you know, you're hanging out with me till three in the morning. You're

fifty four years old. Go home, man, Yeah, and you're going home alone and you don't want to do that. And that's not I'm not picking on people, but I always said I can't have I have to have both. And I can't give up my wife, right, I mean I think with anything, they're sacrificed. So as long as she's like, knows what's up, she knows stuff. But you're also gonna you got kids. If I want kids, I don't want kids to necessarily know what's up. Yeah, that's my dad. He got to go do his thing. But yeah,

he's not any my baseball game. No, that's real, man. I mean you miss shit bro Like I mean, I mean as busy, even as busy as I am, like, and I try to make sure that I'm there as much as I can be, but just sometimes you just gotta You're gonna miss some ship. But I need to make he needs to feel like my dad is there

when I need him. My dad is there for a lot of shit, if not every Yeah, and eventually you're gonna get to the point where you're printing money and you know, you could just take a private jet to make the soccer give that's it. I'm hoping. I am hoping like at a certain point is there's a lot more time for family and a little less uh, a little less busy. How for you? Obviously coming from your culture, I always would hear that there'd be like arranged marriages. Right, Yes,

that's a real thing my parents. Now it's a very fluid thing. Now now your parents might be like, hey, our family knows this person. You guys will date for a while and then be like so it's more like a setup, right, But there are arranged marriages. My dad didn't know he was getting married till his wedding day, so he didn't know who he was married. Not only did he not know who he was marrying, he didn't know he was getting married period until his wedding day.

How old was he when he married your mon? Twenty four? What the fuck? How does so give me that? Their story? Even uncles and aunties at here it are like, that's bananas, Like, imagine you don't know you're gonna married. And then he was at another wedding, yeah, and his cousins came up and they were like, you tell him, you tell me. He's like, somebody tell me, and they said, you're getting

married today. So he's in the car going over there, getting fitted for a suit, taking measurements because my mom was in America at the time. She went to America when she didn't know her real age, but they listed at freaking and then she was there for like a finite amount of time. And my dad's family not even immediate family, but like they thought immediate family because actually his uncle was like high up in the Indian government. So my mom's family was like, this is great, he's

from a good family. These guys are set up. And then my dad's family was like, she's a pretty girl. She's in America. This is great. Same cast, same everything, let's just get it done. What's a cast in Hinduism? Now, I don't know if this is implemented by the I should research. The more I've heard is implemented by the Brits. I've heard us not. But in Hinduism there are casts, and like a class of people kind it is classist.

But my understanding was always that it is supposed to be more like an assembly line than a class system, more like, hey, you guys are focused on this thing. You guys are focused on my cast ironically because I'm so small as the warrior cast, because like, look, y'all if we go to war, y'all are fucking there. That's what you're worried about. Right. If you're the laborer cast, you are working, that's what you're working on. Can you

ever upgrade cast? Now? Which is that's but again, if it's not done in a classest way, no big deal, right, But but it kind of it kind of has to be. I mean, you know, yeah, but it's gonna humans are going to do that now again, I've my wife was telling me she read a book. My wife's not hindre, she's seek sick, but she was saying she read another book. But they're like, no, that's very much baked in the Hinduism. I didn't pick that up. I need to read a

little better. But yeah, the idea was just like, hey, this is the most efficient idea. Yeah, Like, if you're in the working class, it's like you just know that this is your life, Like, yeah, own business. I'm gonna be honest. If I'm born and you look at me and I'm fifteen years old and I'm five two at one hundred and sixty pounds or whatever I was back then. You can't be like this ain't no warrior, Hey do something else. It gets this guy marching class. He's good

with money, you know what I mean? There should have been but again this was This is the oldest religion, so it's four thousand years ago, five thousand years old? Were talking? So did your mom know she was getting married? She knew it was a possible so she knew it might have. She met the family. Yeah, and she was like, okay, but it wasn't that much saying it. What the fuck? I mean? She could have said, no, it wasn't like your dad's parents decision to be like, you're getting married today?

Who makes the call? I think my dad's parents or maybe my dad's uncle again, who's like the more like like the patriarch? Right, But yeah, I don't know exactly who decided. He doesn't, I don't even know. He didn't even care who decided. And your parents love each other, yeah, I mean, but at work you don't get divorced in India,

so you know, yeah, shit, that's great. I will say I have seen it's just like the rates are the same, Yes, what we call love marriages, okay, where it seems like half the couples I see that are arranged, they're like, they're really in love. They make it work. It's a beautiful thing. And then the half it is like, oh,

this never should have happened. This is like a business relationship, yeah, or just you guys aren't even Yeah, some rough ones, Yeah the husband is a monster or whatever though, you know, but at the same time, you look at American marriages, is a fifty to two percent divorce rate or whatever, it's fifty to fifty. What I feel like I've learned. I don't want to be arrogantact like I have the

keys to marriage and fidelity and all of that. But what I think I've learned is if both of y'all are willing to do the work, you will make it. That seems like yeah, and I think I think that's what most people. They give up when things get fucked, you know what I mean, Yeah, when they get rough, When you hit a rough spot, it's like most people just give up where they cheat or they you know, they pull the plug a little early. Irreconcilable differences is

the thing that we always just say. But like how many differences are really irrede like he he hits you, right, he assaults you in any way, he is abusive in any way, or maybe maybe he cheats. She cheats, that's irreconcilable. He cheats. I feel like, I mean what you reconciled this? Of course, it's a lot more intimate when a woman cheats, like you've got a guy inside of you. Yeah, it's definitely a sexist approach, but it's true. I dare you, dude, Yeah, yeah,

definitely I agree with you. Man, Yeah, dude, yeah, for sure. Ladies, come on, be decent. You know, like, now that obviously you got the special out, are you trying? Like? What is like you always hear comedians on podcasts talking like, uh, once every two years, some guys do once a year for you? What is like, you know, ideally the time that you want to take between specials. I feel like I have something right now. I don't know if I want to do the hour unless there's like a crazy

bag or whatever. Even Andrew doing the hour, he was like, it's a lot to do an hour. Now he made it work, and he made it's great and it's doing well on YouTube. But an hour to me, always felt like, who's gonna watch for an hour? An hour? There's a long time man. And I've even heard that like stand ups are starting to put like the closing shit at the front end. That was a Lily thing. Yeah, it's like to get his hour up. It put the closer

at the beginning, but even yeah for youtubeer tension. Yeah, and I have a closing bit that I really like, and I but it's just a long It's like I sit down, I take like it's my favorite bit I've ever done. I feel like this is my next level, but it's like an eight minute thing and it's paced very slowly. My fear is on YouTube there, like I ain't watching this shit. There was that Mister Beasts video I can watch right now. Yeah, where's the minute clip? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

So I don't necessarily know how to do it. I feel like, when I build this thing up, I want to find a creative way to do it. Yeah, I have something I feel like I could put out really you know, a little bit of work, but then I also want to find what's the most creative way to do it. I really was proud of the way I did bring back a proof I was proud of the message. I was trying to send them to other people, and I was proud of that whole thing. Now there was

like a delivery mechanism. Now I was like, this is it. I see it. I don't necessarily see it with this and when I you then it's it doesn't matter how long, it's let's go. You feel like you're kind of like helping kick down the door for like, you know, because we would always I mean you've talked about it, but just like Indians and entertainment would always be at least in the US. Obviously the Indian movie space is wild.

It's like its own world. But like in terms of like US casting, it's always like super type casting shit. But I feel like that's been coming like a lot less, like like I think in general with just most races that aren't white or black, Like, yeah, it's opening up

a lot more. But I think on the comedy side, like I think like you kind of really like faced a lot of those like stereotypes or a lot of those like conceptions about your people in the entertainment industry head on, do you feel like you're kind of helping kind of change that narrative A bit in a way. Now, I always had a different take on like I got a lot of those stereotypical or whatever, but I always had a different take on what's offensive to me and

what's not most people. And I think a lot of times people kind of and this is what bring Back a Pool was also kind of fight back against I think is a lot of minorities will take white people's guilt about what has been done in the past, which is fucked, but they will really exploit that and hammer that home, and the point of their comedy is to make them feel bad. And that was a way to

like elevate your own profile and get your money. Those guys don't often really help out Indians or brown people. There's one entertainer I see who's really doing it, you know, Rommy Yusuf romy That motherfucker is about it, dude. His his show is not about guilting anybody. And then he puts all his homies on. He's doing a show for mo amor mo. Yeah, that's Rommy. That helped get that done. If you are brown and talented, Rommy will do what he can to elevate you, and I feel like that's

the way to do it. I think what a lot of we see is like, oh, I get typecast as you know, accents, and then they just do that to get ahead. Yeah. And the other thing too, is like, yo, why is like a boo is like A he's like obviously like a he's a business owner. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, he's got a family. Yeah, it's great thing about that character. Now, was he voiced by a white guy? Sure? Yeah, And if you wanted to if this, if it was, hey, just have an Indian dude do

the voice. Cool, But it wasn't that. It was a lot of oh my god, look at the struggle we go through and it's not fun to get made fun of with the a pooh accent. But like, you can't possibly compare that to what black people have been through in America, Gay people have been through America. You're doing this to get ahead. I just know for a fact you are. None of you got PTSD from the ship. And if there may be a couple of you, most of you don't got PTSD from this. Like it's not

a thing, it's not stop it. And I hope what I see a lot of minorities do to get ahead is kind of take the liberal side of everything, and I'm not conservative. I do think I'm very moderate. I think nowadays, man, I traditionally am a liberal guy. But I swear the last three years it hasn't made me like just pulled me to the middle or I'm the s everybody's batshit crazy and we should be allowed to say that without upsetting and still get opportunities. It should

be okay to say that. And I do think i'm it's before it was either you know, you are the liberal guy. And I'm not picking on him, but disease was doing a lot of that before. He had a lot of it, dude, a lot it was. They called him woke bay. Yeah, even like his last stand up, I got like five minutes in and I was like, all right, it was a lot of like he started really leaning that with awarded for it, or you'd got to do the Candice Owens thing, which is also it's

even worane. It's insane gross. But you can't just be like a moderate guy who's like you both, y'all are fucking crazy. As a minority, felt like you couldn't do that, and I hope that's what I can do. It's okay to push back on either side. I think that's what during the pandemic. I think that was also a great thing that you guys provided was just like unadulterated, like nonpartisan, just fucked both sides with friends everybody. I feel that

fuck both sides. It's like this shit is crazy and this shit makes sense, like I think I think like and even like certain ship like the like you know, when you guys had that uh, what's the what's the comedian's name from La who said he was into the trans women and you guys they're posting my guy. You guys brought the girl off the next episode. That shit is hilarious, but it's also like ultra progressive if you really think of like bringing somebody from that community on

in a normal situation. Yeah, it kind of like, you know, I think we only see those kind of people in like memes or like in like this like really extremely like weird woke way, and like I just thought it was like the best way to normalize any group of people or any person is to treat them normally and

just talk to them, talk to them normally. That's the point, right, So we have a conversation with a trans woman and then we make some jokes, but we have fun and we learned, and you're gonna make a joke with a straight woman, You're gonna make a joke with everybody. That's what you're gonna do. Well, yeah, that's what it is. Equal opportunity offenders. And then I feel like, hey, now, I think a lot of people walked away from that, like, oh I look at this differently. Yeah for sure, yeah,

for sure. When you guys went to Florida, I think we're talking a little bit off camera, but how how how uh, because that that was a moment. For sure, you guys did the open Andrew did open her up with jelly roll, which was fucking hilarious. It was amazing. But it was definitely probably at that time, a pretty hard contrast to New York policy wise, DeSantis had that bitch booming. We loved it, dude, We fuck because I

gave everybody COVID. I got cold, right, right right right show in Atlantic City, fucking COVID, the COVID of America, and then I get I'll be there November fourth, and uh, then I gave it to everybody. So the upside, as miserable as that was, is now we're all immune. We got the anti everybody's got it. Yeah, and we're sitting in New York where everything is shut down in the the middle of winter. I didn't I had actually just convinced my wife to move from Jersey back to the city.

Prices were so low. But then Anderson's a text and he's like, we can't. This city sucks right now, Let's go to Miami. And I had just paid a little bit of money and I was like, this is going to be such a thing. But my wife was like, fuck yeah, let's go to Miami. Fuck yeah, we got the antibodies. Everything is open. I was miserable in COVID. Dude,

without stand up. I hate these guys who are like, I can't leave without stand up, But I really did in COVID, right, fuck, dude, you felt that I'm depressed. I'd never been depressed until that. It was really fucking down awful place. And then a lot of weirdos, like shaming comedians were still doing shows. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, and even the shows were uncomfortable because it was COVID. Everything is spaced out. Comedy so much about laughter being contagious.

That's why we pack you with it like an open table in the middle. Every other table was like fifteen feet between. So it's like, this is a weird thing. But so much of comedy is just is are people around you laughing? Then I feel more comfortable laughing. Yeah, for sure. The community thing. Yeah, because you don't want to ever be watching a movie and you're laughing and then nobody else is bad. I missed it, I guess sure. So with this show sucked And it was twenty twenty,

the election. Everything was so tense, George Floyd like, it was just like a bad time to do comedy, spaced out, it wasn't fun. And then Florida. We go there, it's sunshine, it's open. Everybody's just happier. You're getting Vitamin D, you're eating out, You're like living a life. It was the best. Dude. I wanted to stay there so badly. Do you guys think you guys would ever leave New York? I mean

obviously got the new studio. Eventually, I am doing everything I can to make sure that make us leave New York. I'm just one man, but this is my movement. Yo. You guys had taken some time off. I think when Andrew went on his vacation. But you guys had just dropped all these heater interviews like freaking back to back to back. It was like, you know that it was a couple of months ago. It was crazy. I missed most of them because my honeymoon didn't match with his.

And I was like, fuck, dude, I don't because my wife at school. So I was like to say, what, has there ever been an interview for you where you were like a little nervous or you were like that you look forward to the most when you look forward to the most. Michael Irvin cowboy fan. He was my favorite cowboy when I was a kid who was Emmett. But then as I grew up, I was like, no, I love this guy. He's got a passion, he plays with the heart, he's got I love this fucking guy

a little flawed, and then he was the best dude. Yeah, I love hopefully. But he was so funny though he came in immediately started making fun of our studio, like it wasn't even on camera. Right right then he went and took a shit in the public bathroom. It was just like, and then he's complaining about this bathroom. He was just so funny the whole time. People don't understand how much funnier he is. ESPN. Oh yeah, he's on

the pod. He's Hilarousah. I'm dying to do a podcast with Michael Irvin, Like I think people need to see that three dimensional mic as opposed to just football mic. Yeah. Almost like he should do a fucking podcast. You feel like every athlete has one one hundred percent. You should just do like twelve a year where he's just like, Yo, this is the story from nineteen ninety one when I

had a six cocaine. If you watch that episode, he talks about going out with Mike Tyson and taking Teo out with him, and TiO is like a stole, shy little guy, right, and it's like a he's got story after story. It's so funny. Yeah, you guys, you guys have done Tyson too, right, No, No, I'd love to. I'd be terrified, but I would love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tyson's a wild guy man, very intense. Hey, we got to stop the interview real quick. Tell you about our

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to gamble with when my book you. Let's get back to the interview. Who I was I was about to say, is that is that one of the ones that you like? Obviously? I'm sure if you had your wishless who would be on Dream Guests? Probably Charles Barkley. That would be crazy. I love that guy. He's hilarious, doesn't give a fuck.

He would fit right in. He don't give a fuck about any Like the other day they had the first night of the season, they had a they were just putt players up on the board and having him guess what the team they were on, and he got like zero out of ten. So yeah, yeah, he was like, I don't know the Kings and he just kept saying the Kings and he missed everyone. Yeah he never gets them. Yeah, it was it was so funny. Dude, what are your man?

I would assume you're are you a Kanye West? Fan? Musically? Obviously? In terms of just like his discography as a hip hop guy, he's amazing. He's a genius. I think he's one of the most you know, probably greater discographies in rap history. Yeah. I don't know enough about music to really appreciate it. I know he's great, but like Alex obviously got a ear of course, and he was like, you don't understand how innovative every everything he does is sonically,

and that makes sense. I do love his music, but uh, I will say I started to think he was this is well before any of this shit. I was like, to be honest, at least he's funny. Now, I you know, it's still fucked up what he's saying, but at least it's funny. But like, I felt like he became everything he said he wasn't gonna become. M hm. Around about the time of graduation, he started to really shift into that makes sense, you're becoming everything you said you wouldn't

be in college dropout. Yeah, it was kind of like a I think I think his mom passed away around the time, like eight o eight, so yeah, that makes sense. Man. It's it's crazy because like it's like if you, like I watched the Drink. Did you watch the Drink Champs interview. I watched like an hour and a half. Yeah, that's about what I watched. Yeah, but like his bigger points are so like okay, dude, Like instead of being an anti Semitic crazy person, all you gotta do is say, hey,

shout out to the Jewish people. They they are onto something. That's how I've always felt. And I'm not saying that the fumple me anyway. So I'm not saying this to get a deal, but I've always, as a minority said that's what every minority say they want to do, and then they never pull it off. Let's stick together, let's support our own let's support educated financial literacy. Yeah, start our own company. It's like, yo, you could say that without shitting on. Like, I don't even know how many

people are in his personal life that are Jewish. I know his personal trainer was like, it's just like it's it's it's kind of like watching a fucked up car crash and your childhood heroes in it, and you're like, oh, so I got the best insight from my friend. Is a very funny comic and Matt Pavich, but he struggles with by disorder. Really talented kid, and I've been with him when he's on those manic episodes and it's like

intense and uncomfortable. And I was asking him, I was like, this is a manic episode, right, He's like textbook and then he goes, I don't know if this is actually like a scientific thing, but I know for me, when I'm having a manic episode, I love getting a rise out of people, and I will say anything to get a rise out of them. I'll say the most fucked up, horrendous things. Did you just bust? Ask? Oh? She started

crazy off? Bro, I'm like, what the fuck? Bro? Anyway, this guy got a great beard to be off camera? Why are you looking that good for I came here in joggers. No, but it makes sense that you're just gonna say shit like Deathcom three or whatever. If you're having an episode, you're just trying to get a rise out of it. And it's almost like every time you get the rise, it's like it's almost yeah. And he's like, I don't know why, but my friend was telling me,

I don't know why, but I love it. I've said fucked up things that like to my family and they thought that's how I really felt, and it's like, no, I was just having an episode and I loved getting that emotion out of you. So I really think that's what's happening. And we're all, you know, I'm not like, I don't want to be too whatever. But the idea that you're either just crazy or not crazy, I don't think is a thing. You can't be not crazy and

have bipolar disorder. And I think if we keep doing this, is he crazy? Is he not crazy? Kanye is gonna be like, I'm not crazy. But if you're not crazy but you do have bipolar disorder, you might be having an episode. He still probably won't listen, but it's a way better chance. And if you say, now you're crazy.

He's also like extremely narcissistic, like he truly probably like he believes he's you know, I mean he always says that I am I Am, I am Michael pick one Jordan Jack and like, all right, dude, yeah we get it. Yeah that was that was actually a fire line. It was it was it appears mortgage shoes. So I don't know, if you saw the clips, son, why does he change his voice? He knows how much Kanye coateswitches, he's on

drink champs. He's different, and then his voice all of a sudden, his voice gets a little bit higher, and you have to understand it's crazy. It's crazy. It's gross, dude, it's crazy. Does he talk like that to Kim? I don't know whole Kardashian family. I don't know. You have any relationship with Pete Davidson. Oh yeah, yeah, Pete. I've known Pete since he was like fifteen, not super well, but I always seeing him, always told him, hey, man, you're funny kid. You're a good kid, right, And I

still feel that way. He's a good kid who just happens to be great at getting pussy. Well, y'all got a problem with this man all time? For sure, all time? Yo. Yeah, who dislikes this guy? You're jealous? No, it's crazy. It's like when you think of his hit list, it's like it's like Leonardo DiCaprio, It's like Pete Davidson. I mean, but Leonardo DiCaprio no disrespected. Pete is really really rich. Did Titanic, and it's much more beautiful looking than Pete Davidson.

No disrespect. Yeah, sure, I'm not even yeah, this guy's been a heart throw since he was seventeen. Yeah, yeah, sure, I'll fuck Leonardo DiCaprio, why not. But I'm not I'm saying Leonardo DiCaprio. I remember him slaying with women after Titanic, the highest grossing movie of all time, where he is the iconic heart throb, quintessential everyone he better gets after that, he is just out here. Petere Peaches the guy from

Guy on SNL looking gang terrible tattoos. So I just have some funny ass rants, but like, no, I don't know girls that will look at a rant and be like, I gotta funck the guy doing the rant on the weekend thing and like we're talking like Kim Kardashian Ariana Grande, like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like it's the greatest list in history quite possibly. Now there's somebody else. I mean, let's say Jeter had Jeters is nuts Jeter. Pete Davidson is arguably as good as Jeter, and that's crazy, yeah, crazy,

it's crazy, man. He must he must be a real coxman, that guy. Yeah, dude, God bless him. I mean, just something talk about just like what's the next for flagrant? I always you know, I always like have this thing in my head where I'm like, man, I would love if some of my favorite podcasters comedians, because we always me and my boys are always talking about how like good comedies are just dead. Like I can't think of

the last like classic. That's a fucking that is actually as crazy you bring it up because Andrews he gets like these grand obsessions, which are good. It's a beautiful thing because he pulls it off right now, it is I want us to make a movie, yeah, dude, because there's no more funny movies. Yeah, Like, I can't think of the last like it's been at least ten years since, Like there was like a super classic. I mean like Girls Trip was cool. Tiffany Haddish fucking destroyed that movie.

There was such a great movie I haven't seen. That's one of the greatest comedic performances I've ever seen in a movie. And people act like that movie would have been good without it. It would have sucked, dick without different. Yeah, that's probably the last great. It was like that in Bride'smaids, Like but like before that, what do we really talking? This is great. I remember loving wedding crashes in college.

But that's like, and that's what I mean. Like, even if you go back, like I think it's probably like hangover Hangovers destroyed. It was probably super bad, right, yeah, if you really think about like the last like yo, classic comedy. Yeah, step Brothers, fucking bang step Brothers, all the juta appatal joints. Like I just feel like there's such a huge, just gaping hole pause for somebody to

come through and somebody put their face in. Yeah, fucking right, like the dudes from Workaholics tried to do it on that Netflix movie but that ship was kind of whatever. But I feel like if like you guys did a movie, or if you guys could and just put all the fucking sick Medians in it, like fucking have Tim Dillon play the fat funny guy. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's it. That's the thing that Andrews currently like obsessed with. And Yo, we watched this show. You ever seen the offer? I

have not heard. I've heard of it, though I haven't seen it. Though it's great, it's a fun show. It's just on Paramount. Plus it's just it's about the making of the Godfather. I don't realize, Oh, I don't realize how much shit had happened for that. But I'm on paramount plus for its fucking Yellowstone. But I gotta watch check it out. It's super fun. Again. There's little cheesy moments, but it's just fun. And there's a scene that makes

him say I want to do movies. The main character, who's like a he executive produces The Godfather and he leaves the theater and he's like, you don't get this experience anywhere else. He's like sitting in a theater. And this is back in the theaters were like theaters. But still that's true. Man. As great as YouTube is, it's hard to make you feel that way. Nothing matches a movie. And I remember watching that and the Andrew was talking about this immediately right around the same time. It's like,

I want to do a movie. I' do a movie. And I'm not as obsessed as him, but I'm like, yo, he's right, man. We can create a feeling a fucking euphoria group shared euphoria YouTube. I'm here. I'm here. It's just me, maybe one or two other people, two hundred people sharing a thing. It's the closest thing you can get to a live stand up show. No for sure, or a concert. Yeah, yeah, and like I think just somebody has to do it. If it's y'all, if it's

you know, have Joe Rogan just bankroll that motherfucker. Yeah, that might be the movie. That might be the move. It just feels like, man like, I don't know if it's something that goes to theaters or not. I don't know if it's like, hey, we dropped the movie. It's on Amazon Prime, go run that shit up, or Netflix

bought the movie or whatever it is. But it just feels like, yo, somebody has to step in and if and you guys have done so many things that kind of kick the doors down in general just being independent, you feel like making a movie would be you know why they don't do as many and this might be something to try to figure out again the team that yeah, we got a good team that could figure it out. But the problem with comedy financing is comedy doesn't translate internationally,

and international sales are so important to movie studios. Now, that's why the Avengers will throw any money at it, because internationally every gonna watch it. Comedy people aren't gonna watch this internationally most likely. Well also, yeah, because comedy is different culturally. Yeah, like the jokes that might work here aren't gonna work in China. Yeah, they just don't. They don't have the fuck you're talking about. Yeah, they're like huh yeah, now that's real. So it's almost harder

to even get studios behind it. So it's like, what are we doing? Like, yeah, it's it's sad though, because fuck man, I really think like the best comedy shit is through podcasts or like series, like TV series. Yeah, we need a good comedy movie though. We really haven't had a great one. Yeah. Why Yeah, I was about to say East Bounded Down, but that was a TV show, TV show. Kenny fucking powers Man, Righteous Gemstones Just yo,

that dude. Danny McBride just plays the same. He just plays Kenny powers and everything and he kills it and it's fucking amazing. His name is Kenny powers to for real, dude, It's crazy, man. What would you say was something that you kind of uh, you know, being around Andrew as long as when did you guys first meet eight? Oh wait met him? He was like the time. Yeah I

just moved in New York. Okay, he was one of the first guys I met we were both doing this hood room in Brooklyn and the show got canceled, and I remember back then, I didn't know like the skinny jeans was like fashion. I was like, this fucking dork coming up here in skinny jeans in a fucking Milwaukee. And then I was like, but he's doing a hood room in Brooklyn, right, guy can't be some he can't be like a dork for real, right, He's gotta be funny.

So we shook hands and then he was He asked me if I wanted to ride back to the show because the show got canceled right back to the city to Manhattan, and he was in a minivan, which is also so funny. But he and I just started talking about comedy. We had like the exact same taste, and I'm in New York, so I'm dying for people to

hang out with. But we kind of went our separate ways, and then every once in a while I would go buy the Village Lantern and just hang out with him and his crew, and I kind of got along with them well. But I would still go do shows and fucking in the Bronx or wherever and bomb NonStop. But I remember I was about to leave New York, and I was like, yeah, I always have fun with these

guys over here. Let me hang out for here. I was gonna give you, like one more month, let me hang out here, see if I can make some friends. Because New York at the time super PC comedy or super hood comedy, and I'm not. Yeah, I'm not either. So I was like, let me just hang out with these guys. And then I found he and I like not only had the same taste in comedy, we thought on a very similar wavelength and we could have conversations at about you know what I thought was a pretty

high level. I don't know if or not, but you know, and then bits we were we wanted to do comedy the same way, which is I wanted to be a little if I want a challenge what they think, I want to go at this PC shit. And so it just became and then we're both super loyal and then

from there just built into it. That's important. Man. Yeah, you guys all seem like you know, I mean, I think it's dope, like anything you guys do, like everyone's supporting or involved in or you know, whether it's like Alex opening up his podcast studio or you know, obviously your your special everyone's helping out with the Netflix thing.

It's definitely dope to see. Man. The one thing I have said to Andrew and I think this and I hope this continues, and it's I think it's been the key to how we've kept growing and not had too much shit. We had little things here and there, but the main thing was we need to put the friendship over the podcast. Right. It cannot ever be much money. This makes me if it ever becomes this will cost

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fucking broke. I think I subscribed to the Patreon I don't know, maybe two years ago, because I don't know. I was just like curious because I had never heard of it. But I heard you guys talking, I was like, what the fuck is this Patreon shin. I think when I subscribe, you could see like how many people you guys had on the pay I was like, what the f fuck yeah. And then I start doing the math

in my head and I'm like, oh, these guys are rich. Yeah, And that was again started because I was legitimately like I had no I probably made I'm not bullshitting, probably made six thousand dollars total. In twenty eighteen. I was going broke. We'd been doing the podcast the whole time. Six thousand dollars for the total total. If I'm lucky,

I had savings because twenty seventeen went pretty well. I was on like six MTV shows, right, So you have series yeah and I, and then one by one everything starts getting canceled and not getting picked up, and you keep thinking I'm gonna be okay. I got all this other stuff, and then each one gets taken out the back and then I'm left with nothing, and I'm trying to survive. And I'm talking to Andrew softly about this

Patreon thing because I think our fans would fuck with it. Yeah, And we weren't big at the time, but I was talking about other podcasts that we're like killing it, and then their listenership was way bigger, and he was like, dude, I don't know if it makes sense. Finally, I was so broke. I literally said, I go, I'm literally pleading with you at this point. Can we please do these?

Can we start the Patreon? And he was like fine, and then he marketed it so brilliantly and like really want to build a community aspect of the pod through it, and I think that helped so much. But yeah, it just became this thing that helped fund a lot of stuff. Would you guys ever do like Flavorant live with the live show we have to figure out? Right? For me, I would and Andrew. For Andrew, I'm asking him to split money with me when he could go huge on

his own. And for me, I felt like I didn't get to do stand up like for whatever reason, the industry has never liked me. And that's fine, and I'm mad about it. But I didn't get to like go headline clubs until basically right before COVID, right, and then obviously COVID shut everything down. So now, once I started doing an hour five times a weekend, I felt like I grew so much. And I was never that confident

in stand up before. It's because I'm doing now I look back, it's like, because I'm doing comedy fifteen minutes at a time at a club and I'm done, and I'm looking at all these peers of mine who are doing five hours a weekend and they're ahead of me, and I'm getting in my head about it. Now. I felt like I've on. Now, I feel like, you know, let's go whoever wants as good as anybody out there, which is a really cool place to be. You feel

like you're in your bag like that. I feel like I'm in my I feel like I'm in my fucking bag. So the live podcast, I'll do it. I'm with it. But right now my obsession is kind of catching up. Yeah, catching up to what happened. Yeah, you got a little taste of it before COVID hit. Yeah yeah yeah, and even just letting motherfucker like, I really feel like now, motherfuckers need to know, like, come see the show. I promise.

Even if you don't like me, you can't say you're gonna say he's good at I might thought he was a dickhead on my a shrimp whatever. You didn't like me, but you just objectively he's good at this ship. Who is in your like, give me your mount Rushmore Comedians all time? Patrece uh yep, yep, yep. I don't like saying it because he's so annoying now with Chappelle, I just stop crying, dude, I don't mind the transo. It's like me, he's like probably my personal favorite of all time.

He's probably my goat hard because it was just yeah. But it's like it's like every time I see him now, it's like, I'm not sure if I'm watching comedy as much as I'm watching like some sort of like Ted Talk. You know what I'm saying, son, Yeah, And well I don't mind the Ted Talk dog he did. Do you remember Bird Revelation is the one in the upstairs of the comedy store. He actually was there. You were there. I was there. It was unfucking believable. Yeah, I was there, unbelievable.

I was dying. Yeah, me and my wife are. I think we're like because they took footage from I think like five different filmings. That was beautiful. By the thank you. Both of us really out kicked our coverage. Yeah we did, we did. We did many Yeah so we uh yeah. I think Seiphus Sound somehow hooked me up and we ended up being like right in the front row or second row of of a Chappelle Netflix filming. It was

fucking wild, but he killed it. But I almost feel like that was kind of the last time I saw him do stand up where I was just like, fuck this, And I haven't seen him live. I know he's been doing a lot of live shit, but like, yeah, I feel like some of my favorites have been disappointed me lately. I wasn't crazy about Cat William's latest. I just see like interviews with him and stuff, and it's like it's a sad I hope this doesn't happen to me. The greatest thing about jay Z is he doesn't shit on

the generations beneath him. True little things here and there with the money to your ear and yeah maybe like you know death auto tune, but you know, yeah, yeah, but I think, like, yeah, like even I even like, I like Bill Burr's new special, but maybe I saw him do it in LA a few times, so it didn't hit as much because I was like, I've seen I saw him on the fuck you know what, Bill Burr might be the goat he might I might need to switch it to Bill Burr because here's what I say, man,

When I was watching live at Red Rocks. I watched. I watched the first like forty thirty forty minutes, and I was like, Yo, the consistency of this guy is yeah, it's great parallel. Yeah. I had seen him so much in LA, Like I saw him in those parking lots. Like me and my wife, that's like our main date night thing. We'll go to the comedy store if there's somebody I like, I'll be like, oh, we'll buy tickets to go watch bil Burr in a parking lot in LA. And so I felt I just felt like I saw

ninety percent of his shit. Yeah. So, and the same thing with Tim Dillon, Like I saw Tim Dillon Special I feel like five times in the comedy store. So it was like, I know what the punchline is, so when I watch it on and I think he kind of recognized that too, because I heard him talking about it, like I've been doing this hour for so long, like, yeah, so much COVID shit. You know who actually I fuck with?

I never really gave them like too much of a chance because I always just associated this dude with the Chelsea Handler Show with Joe Coy. Dee Coy is a beast dude. His new stand up is fucking a beast. He's a beast. He has this bit about dudes who are on those ventilators to go to sleep and we sleep at the seatpack shit, It's like you look like a ghost is fucking eve in the mouth. It's great. Okay, so you got fortrees, you got Chappelle Burr. Here's the thing.

Chappelle might need to get bumped because he can't not put Russell Peters on the obviously for that that's a great mount rushmore. But then how do you not put Prior on there? Would you say? Prior's a little bit before your time? Though? Priors a little bit before my time. But I appreciated how good Prior was. Eddie Murphy was the first stand of I remember fucking dying out was

the family barbecue. I remember me and my homies listening, crying, laughing and an audio CD and I was like, yo, those were the audio can make you laugh this hard? I didn't know. I saw Bring the Pain. I love Bring the Pain. Rock was my idol for so many years. Chris Rock, I think was my favorite for a long time too. Yeah, yeah, bigger and blacker and just like yeah, dude. The crazy shit about Bigger and Blacker is it's like a year after Bring the Pain, So to have that

much heat back to back is nuts. And I think it might have been better. I think if I I wish Bernie when he like hit his stride as like a superstar, I wish you would have did more. Shit. I know he had the show and that was amazing for him to death jam Ship. He had the obviously we go back to the deaf jam Ship obviously King's comedy. Comedy. Dude, he murdered everybody, and everybody killed it on that, but

he murdered everybody. It was the rumor, maybe I'm speaking out of turn, but the rumor is it was supposed to be Steve Harvey headlining, but nobody could follow Bernie. Yeah, so he Bernie would middle, Steve Harvey would struggle. So they were like, yo, good deal, Hughley on here at Steve you host, that rounds out the show, but nobody. That's why they put Bernie at the end. He wasn't supposed to headline, but they were like, nobody can follow,

nobody can fuck with this guy. The Milk and Son unbelievable. All right, So Russell Peters. All right, let's let's try like Mount Rushmore, because I think Bill and this is your Mount Rushmore. My Mount Rushmore is Patrise, Burr, Russell Rock or Chappelle. Okay, I'm not sure. I think I lean Chappelle. Yeah, I think the actual, like the greatest.

I would push Burr off because I think he might be the best, but he didn't like change comedy, so it would be I think Patrice Prior and I don't know the fourth maybe like a Lenny Bruce or some shit because we just didn't. I like George Carland too. Carlon Carlan was a beast man. Ye yeah, yeah. When I was a kid, my dad used to always listening to his CDs and ship. You know it's crazy about Carlon if you there's a documentary on him an HBO.

I didn't know this. He was like a clean fifties goofy comic, right, and then it was the guy he became. It was because of an acid trip. Wow, he took acid and was like, I'm a fraud. Nothing is real, None of this is real. So he was like on Sir Bill Cosby shit kind of prior to doing ass. Yeah, like this goofy stuff, like fifties. What comedy was in the fifties to be on TV. He's making money, but he hated it, and then he he was doing it

defeat his family. But then he had an acid trip and it was like, I'm a fucking fraud and then to change everything. That's wild. Have you ever done acid or any No, I've only I've been high twice with Joe Rogan. Yeah, oh yeah, you guys, the first time I ever smoked weed and then last week because my wife will get high every once in a while, and I always felt because I was always like, no, I don't do that right right right? I felt bad. I was like, I can't get high with Rogan and then

never get high with my wife. My wife. Yeah, yeah, So we took an edible. That was a fun time, dude, We had fun. So you gotta watch watch yourself on the edibles. Man. We take half at a time, like a half, then a quarter, and then a quarter. If you take a little bit too much, you might have the worst night of your life. Oh dude. I had a gummy, a who's wax gummy back in the day, and I just took the whole thing yeah, and I was sick. I wouldn't even hide. I woke up in

the middle of the night. I just like took it and went to sleep. In the middle of the night, room was spinning and I couldn't figure out what's going on. And then I realized it's the edible. And then the next day on the plane go flying back, I was fucking miserable. Never shrooms or nothing. Nah, but I'm interested in shrooms. I don't want to do I'm okay with that natural stuff. I think right, I'm open to shrooms done weed. I think I might even do like ayahuasca.

I want to do that shit. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that shit is like I'm almost scared of, like how like what I'm going to be confronted with because it's like supposed to be like life. Yeah, yeah, you gotta go be with a shaman. It's like two days. Yeah, I'll do that, Carl, Like, who knows how the fuck I'm gonna be after I do ayahuasca, Like I might maybe I divorce my wife or something. I don't know, honest about seeing I sell the pictures. M Hey, what up?

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that seems like a fucking party. So DMT there's you have to get it the natural way. There's a synthetic DMT, and then there's like pens that is like the synthetic like you vape DMT, which is not how you're supposed to do it. You're supposed to get the real shit.

You're supposed to freebase it like it's crack. And yeah, from what I hear, I mean I got close friends who sell that shit and do it, and they're very much like, yo, man, there's only one way to do it, because there's people who'll give you a pand like it's a DMT pen and my friend did that. You don't want to do that. You want to freebase it. You want to get full pooky from fucking you gotta you gotta,

That's what I mean. At least the people who I know who are really like into that shit, they're like, there's you have to freebase it. You have to smoke it, like like that's the only way to go. And then what do they say, happens just you're gone twenty minutes. It's only twenty minutes. My I had a homie who told me he did DMT and during his trip he it was it felt like about six months. You say, he got a job, met a girl, like fucking lived a six month life and then woke up and only

like eighteen minutes had passed. That's amazing. It's also fucking scary as fuck. That's amazing. Imagine like you you hit something and you you just go away and you live like six months of life and then you wake up and you're like what it's like some shit straight out of the movies. But you have to Yeah, from what I hear, I mean I like mushrooms. I do. I do rooms a lot. I was shrooming hard last night. How was that? It's great? I have a gummy company that I'm a part of, so I cant hook you

up with some gummies they're graavy. Maybe it you just microdose? Oh okay, you could just take like one and like go work out, like some people use them as pre workouts, which is what is it? What does it do? It just depends on how much you eat. So if you were to take one it makes you a little bit more focused. It kind of just it kind of makes everything a little bit more realistic, a little more HD.

If you the more you eat, I would say, the more you like start to really kind of get ultra lost in your how much do I gotta take to get fucking smacked? I was just not too high. Eat a whole bag? Well that seems crazy. It's an eighth Okay, the whole bag of the gummies. You could do sixmies. Really it's it's no, no, no, they're they're pretty properly though.

So it's twelve pieces and the bags of eighth. So if you really want to get smacked, do six and you'll you'll be able to like sound that's good high, nothing crazy and nothing crazy? Yeah, I mean it. Also, it also depends on what you ate for the day, and if you have like an empty you want to eat them on an empty stomach, really yeah, because then you get the real fool like you really feel. It just depends on what you're trying to get into. Man.

You know, if you have like a fucking real heavy dinner there, you might need to eat more because they won't hit as hard because you got so much shit soaking up the psilocybin. I'm gonna look, I'm gonna try to do this with my wife. She's scared of it. But do we need a shirpa? I don't know what that is. Somebody soap it? I just found it. Somebody so burd is making sure enough? But no, no, no, no, no, no, y'all be all right unless Yeah, it's not like you

guys are gonna commit suicide on accident or anything. Yeah, okay, yeah, you'll be fine. What about right now? Uh? You gave me your Mount Rushmore. Who are the funniest comedians alive right now? Bill Burr is number one? Okay, I think Rogan is up there, Andrew obviously. Yeah, I'm putting myself in that fucking list. I don't care love it. I'm trying to think who am I watching right now that

I'm like, bro, that's fucking crazy. Yeah, I think, Uh, it's kind of hard for me to answer because I just feel like I just watched I'm like fans of podcasts as much as I am stand up. So it's like, I think Tim Dillon's so fucking hilarious. I could just watch him talk star. I could just watch him talk for like an hour about anything, and I'm just like,

I'm just dying. Yeah, that's his He's a gifted talker. Yeah, like the fact he could do that like with with no I mean obviously he had his producer, but with no co host or anything. He's just fucking rambling about the Kardashians or fucking Russia. Yeah, like, you know, I want to know what Tim Dillon has to say about geopolitics because it's so entertaining. I haven't heard the New Hour from Rogan, but I heard somebody who was telling me he's like, this is the best he's been in

a while. Because he was he said, I don't want to get this money and go to Austin and become some rich like lazy out of the right, right, So he's been in the fucking lab. So No, he's nice. I always see him at and like he's doing Vulcan and shit. Yeah. Do you feel like he's a little underrated because he's so polarizing for some reason, Like I feel like maybe people don't give him as much respect for like I think one of the greats. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yea, And I mean it got changed. Yet we're

all doing podcast because of Joe Rogan. Of course he changed the whole man. So I think in that sense, a lot of people just hate now some people who love him are going to overrate him. So maybe Yeah. Like my cousin, my cousin's entire life is opinion on everything in the world is formed based on whatever Joe Rogan is saying, which is crazy because Joe Rogan's whole

thing is bringing on everybody. It is opinion. It's a filter. Yeah, Like my cousin, Like, all of a sudden, like when hardcore maga in like twenty sixteen, I don friend him on Facebook whatever that'd be happening. Sometimes then all of a sudden he hits me. He's like, hey, I know you've been supporting Bernie Sanders for a long time. I

saw him on Joe Rogan not a bad guy. He's like, I think you might have had him all wrong, and I'm like, yeah, dude, people losers man, it's so crazy, sy God, so many people out there just it's embarrassing for you. It's like, dude, you got a four year old thoughts, Yeah, you got a four year old thoughts. You can't just dive it like it sucks too because Unfortunately nowadays it's the heart. It's harder than ever to form your old thots because whatever you think, they're just

gonna keep feeding you more of that ship. Mann Hershel Walker might win this election. Ain't that crazy? I've seen this man get cte. I'm a Cowboy fan. Was gonna say, would you would you vote for him? Just based on the Cowboys history? This guy guy, he's clearly got. He was bipolar years ago, beat the ship out of why decades ago. Like I knew all this. It's crazy and he might be. I'm not surprised, though, I would root

for him if he was fighting. M m A. You remember Mma, I was very happy he beat the ship out of that guy. I don't remember that. I remember he did it, but I remember if he won, he won. He kicked the ship out of the guy. I think that was like one of the more lopsided wild trades I think in football history. Yeah, it built the Cowboy dynasty. This guy did everything for me as a sports fan. But you got too much brain damage to be I

don't care what your politics are. If you played professional contact, Mayni pak Yoah shouldn't beat on motherfucking congressman. No, no, I don't care your problem. The Philippines are fucking crazy. Like my boy is Filipino and he goes he goes there all the time. He's like, yo, if you if you get called weed, they put you in prison, like prison, Like the fucking president of the Philippines is like a crazy person. There's some wild laws out there, dude. I

heard in Thailand. If you make fun of the king or the emperor whatever, that's you're fucked. You're fucked, fucked, fucked by a lady boy for sure. Yeah, shout out to yeah anyway, listen, man, uh go watch the podcast going Crazy. Yeah, man, we're doing you guys are fucking killing it. Thank you man, thank you. It's crazy. Go to the Patreon hopefully a new special maybe top of the year. I don't have a timeline, but you come

see me live. I think you'll enjoy it. And then we're gonna we're gonna cook up something and I want it to be fucking good. I don't want to take too long, but right we're gonna cook up something. Maybe it just be a lot of clips. I don't know, but I feel like I got when you're doing the like touring, right, are you still hitting like local clubs here to like work on ship, or you just road right now because there's so much podcast prep. My wife

road no fucking time when I'm off tour. There's only a few dates left, but then I'll be back in the in the clubs and I'll be trying to build up time to get back on them. How do you feel about I mean that road life's different, right, It's different. But I'm fortunate enough that like I can afford to bring my homie through Shark sing who I'm gonna I'm

gonna do a special for him as well. Okay, he's got like, yeah, he does my feature stuff, but he has like he has like a day job, like an actual office job, so he's kind of doing a twenty minute thing. I'm like, hey, this is what the why office job suck, and here's how to still I kind of advance in the work price while not giving a fuck, right, And it's funny. It's actually funny. I'm not saying that

very I want to bring him up. Yeah, and then my camera guy also named keV six eleven slash bodyguard, camera slash bodyguard, So I got at least them to and usually one other person maybe two. And so I have a little crew that like keeps company, keeps me company because yeah, again, I'm I've never done anything remotely close to but like I don't want to be on

the road alone. And just like there's this random bitches talking to me, and I'm so fucking bored and miserable that like I entertained the offer right right right right right, let me out of trouble is just keep me out the fucking mix, man, keep me out to mix. I'm here, Yeah, I'm cheating on my way with my homies. And then just enjoy all the food in every city. Yeah no,

I've gatting like twenty pounds. Yeah. I can only imagine, dude, if I was on the road like that, because I'll be I'm in New York right now, and we're like I've been on Keto for like since May. Yeah yeah, and I was like you know what, nah, hey, yeah, fuck that, dude. I need pizza, son, you need something. I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs. I'm faithful. I'm eating junk food. Yeah, fuck you for sure. I'm taking this cake to the face. Yeah, there it is. Man. Oh, gosh,

I appreciate you pulling up bless Man. Thank you