#218 - D-Lo

your area. Like you know what I'm saying in terms of like just like you got legendary records, bro, you got like a lot of your peers respects. Like, do you feel like getting like incarcerated did it? Was it kind of like a necessary evil for you to kind of like really get back focused the right way on the music ship? Yeah? Kind of. But I mean when you go to when you go to when you go to jail or whatever, and you wrap jail always kind

of being good for rappers, right with getting released. Yeah, when Boozie got out, he was getting stupid bad just so it's like when I was in there, I was just planning for my release the whole time, playing for everything that I'm gonna do when I get out, like how I'm a better myself for my music and just life period. You feel me and just be on some some grown boss shit for real. Some a little a different d LO, but the same d LO. You feel me when you got locked up? Was it during the

pandemic or before? It was during the pandemic. Well, I caught the case like twenty nineteen, so I was out on Bill and then I went down during the pandemic. So I caught like the first little half you first part of it. I caught the worst part of it. Yeah, when it was like you couldn't leave the house, especially in the they were playing shut Down and it wasn't

nothing in there. So you get out and San Francisco and like just the Bay Are in general Oakland, everything has changed drastically almost like it feels like the pandemic kind of like might have permanently damaged like the city low key, like the area, like it definitely did that shit looked like it ain't the same from when I left for sure, one hundred percent. Like you know, some of the it's crazy. The craziest shit is like I

think in the city of San Francisco. You could steal and shoplift up to one thousand dollars and they can't arrest you. Have you heard about this? What? What the so like if it's been going viral, like people will just go into Like now if you like, if you're in the city, you'll see like the CBS's and the Walgreens and shit are every close locked up. So yeah, because everybody was just going in and just stealing like nine hundred dollars worth of shit and just leaving and

there's nothing they could do about it. Yeah, I think it was after like a certain amount. It's like that's what it becomes. Be like, it's it's petty theft before the Yeah, like they can't take you to jail. They can probably write you a ticket or something, but they can't take you to jail. They can't arrest you. That's crazy how people using that, Like, why would I go pay for some shit exactly if if I'm not gonna go to jail. Yeah, I was just with a you know what, I'm a shot I guy John Coston out

shout out to John Cossu. Remember me and John were in the bab last week and he shoplifted it I said, Bro, what are you doing? He stole the gun? I said, I said, John, you can't add to the problem. What is wrong with you walked out the gun. It's just like, damn, there ain't nothing to happen. Yeah, you're right, but nah, definitely it's crazy out there. Man. It's just like with the drug shit, like you know his dad obviously. I feel like bipping has gotten worse than it's ever been.

The day I got to Oakland from jail, this time, I stopped at Cookies. I was in there five minutes. The day you got home, man, the day I got here, the day I got home. Wow, I stopped at Cookies to get some weied go in there and come back out the big whips. I mean the whip bills, I said, the whipped bib but said, I said, God, I done been bit before. That's like my third time. But I was like, Bro, this is how I get my welcome home. That just woke me up, like welcome was there anything? That?

Was there anything in the car. They didn't even take nothing. It was ship in there, but they didn't take nothing. It was like they bit my window and got up out of there or something like. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people tell me now, they're like, Yo, if you come to the Bay, you have a rental car, take everything out. Just keep your windows rolled down, man, because they're gonna bust your window even if they don't see done. They just go crack the way off really

rolling in your windows. Now, just let people go in see who your car unlocked? Everything? Just go ahead and yeah, because the wind getting the window replaced the biggest headache. Yeah, that shit, that's it's insane man. What was in twenty nineteen? What charge did you get where you had to go sit down for? I had h for a weapon. I had a gun and a high speed m hm. So yeah, you know they played dirty day they tried. They gave

me four years for that, which they shouldn't have. But you know, do you feel like because it's crazy, man, because like California obviously is resource wise, landscape wise, city wise, culture wise, probably one of the best states. But I do feel like it's gotten to the point we're like they're making it really hard for U fuckers to want to stay out here because like think about like I mean,

we just lost p and b Rock yesterday. You know what I'm saying, Like it's really like hard to be able to carry a gun out here, Like it's hard, like they make it. You got to jump through hoops and then like even then like you really you can't really like shoot nobody. Yeah, even self defense in California is even crazy. It's Harry. It's like you could, you could, you could defend yourself and still and catch charged. Because of the way you defended yourself. They want you to

do it. They want you to leg check on motherfucker. When if this motherfucker don't put out a gun and you happen to pull your shit out and able to you feel me do your thing or whatever. You're not shot to this nigga five six times. Now you're going to jail because you shot it too many times. They're saying you thought about killing him and all this crazy shit,

Like this shit is wild, this California crazy, got lost crazy. Yeah, other states niggas is riding around ship shout out to you did my birth party, I don't know nine years ago, ten years ago, twenty thirteen in Phoenix, it was like you Charlemagne glasses below Freddy gives Freddy, I remember that. But nay z, you could ride around like free there's I mean, I got a lot a lot of people ain't getting robed nazy because they know you might in the club with the gun on him. I promise you. Yeah,

walking around that motherfucker is good. Yeah, it's crazy, man. I want to go back to Uh we were just talking about I was just talking with the Russell about NoHo and how it is such an iconic record on the West Coast, but it also is a record that doesn't sound like it was mix or mastered. It sounds like you got the studio bounce and just rolled with that thing. That's exactly what I did. I recorded it, so okay, so you just bounced it out. I did everything.

I did the beat, I recorded it, and I did the I didn't know how to mix or nothing like that. I didn't know what plugins was, I don't know what none of that was. I just knew how to press record and adjust the valumes that of each track, you feel me, And that was that. Do you remember like that specific record obviously is like a record that changed your life, But do you remember like the moment where you were like, oh this is this is a like

this this is one of them ones? Yeah, Well, like when I first did it, I just was like on some regular like oh yeah, this is slap you feel me? And once I put this one, MySpace was cracking. So once I put it on my MySpace and just all the locals start grabbing it and putting it on their page, I just see helling people put it on there, and I'm just like, okay, they fucking with the song. But then I went to jail, and when I got out

of jail, I went to jail for a year. And when I got out, that's when it was like big as fuck. Then it was on YouTube and all that cause that like we don't really have nobody was dropping sh it on YouTube. Then it was like all MySpace shit. So once I got out, that's when I really knew, like, oh yeah, I had a show the first day I got out of jail. The day I got out, I went and put I did my first show ever. What year was just like two twelve, two thousands seven? Oh shit, wait,

when was when did come out? Eight? No hole came out on my space two thousand and seven. It didn't hit YouTube and all that ship until like late two thousand and eight, jesus, So it was just you got out of jail and you had you had a show already booked, had a show book. Shout out to DJ Slow Folk. He put up on me and he had a party. He was like, man, hey love yo, shit, He like, you gotta come, you gotta come do the song. Wow.

I went to the song and Lightweight froze up the when I seen how the whole crowd knew you knew the words and ship that's who made That's how I started started the stump to know hold because that was the first thing I seen. Wow. Soon as the beat came on, the whole party stomping, I'm like, oh, this is crazy. We got to stop the interview real quick to tell you about our folks at my bookie ladies and gentlemen. Motherfucking NFL season is approaching my favorite time

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and he's been around a long time. But who are you fucking with right now out of out of the area that you feel like, you know could be up next to represent the city properly. Man, I'll say this name a lot too young junior front of town. He's fire. He ra a as fuck. Uh of course, low Russell. I got an artist named Nams. He really turning up l hard and I'm really a fan of him. Not because he's my artist and nothing like that, but the nigga dope as fuck. He do a lot of different shit.

He do like Raggaeton, dude, he do he do all everything. You feel me, but right now, I mean Oakland. I can't speak of Oakland like that, and it's not turned like that. That's why you feel me. The guy is back. You hell know what I'm saying. My turn is bitch back up one time. But other than that, Julia, right now, that's why he's fired. That's that's why I'm a fan of right now. You feel what I'm saying. Super Dope. Yeah, there's some dope. Shout out Chippers Chips too, Yeah, shout

out to like baby Gas is dope. That's my boy. Stunner Man Dope. Stunner Man Dope. He's one of them records. That's we're gonna get played in the bay forever. I was. I was seeing that shit in jail. I'm seeing all the football players doing it and everything. Yeah, I was like, he moving when you like where you were locked up? Were you able to have the iPad or like the tablet because I know some some places you get the tablet now, which kind of makes life a little bit better. Yeah,

they had the tablets and ship. I had a phone though, tablet. Yeah, cell phones. You're able to talk about that now because that you're out of there. Ship. They the one us. They're the ones bringing the ship in there. Ship, the CEOs, the CEO's bring the phones in. Mother yanky and they yanky as hell. Hell they get there out of that at the end of the day, how do they bring them in though, y'all guess is good as mine. Yeah, in they bag I don't know, almost like it's like

their own phone. They bring it in. Yeah, yeah, so is the service, like do you got to It's like one service better than the other in there like being here really. Oh so you're un less unless you in the present where you just way out in the bonie somewhere, and then you probably ain't gonna have no receptions. So at night when you go to sleep, because that's obviously contraband where do you put the phone? Oh? Yeah, we had places. I can't say all that right on here,

but we was tucking. Ship was kicked. Yeah, you wasn't getting to it. We had tools and hell of shit like you wasn't getting to nothing. I left. I left still with the phone. But I feel me, Well you brought no say you brought the phone out of the cellar, great bro, I left it there. I was able to parole and you feel me and I get caught with it and ship like that. But yeah, shout out to you if you like on Instagram and shit in there.

Oh you were tapped in there. I mean I wasn't posting right I'm in jail and no, because that would be stupid on Instagram. But you're at least you can see what's going on in the world. I was watching the whole time. Yeah, what is your go to spread recipe? My go to specini? So how would how would someone like give me the ingredients the same? It's like, oh we in prison. You could buy all the same shit

you could buy. You could buy feuccini, you buy the real brand of fetucini that sees anything you think of, they got it in prison. Anything. So when we see people like doing like these struggle prisons, struggle prison, that's that's county jail ship. Okay, okay, that's when you're gonna see the noodles crunched up in a bag. You don't make You don't touch noodles in prison. I just saw a video and then went viral where they were doing like hibachi in jail. Oh yeah, his whole bunk, you know,

the bunks is metal. They take his whole bunk, scrape everything off of it and fry food on that motherfucker. That shit is crazy. Yeah, some creative are They still doing a lot of prison tattoos right now, somebody getting tapped. Thousand people get every day you got any tat you got in prison. No, I was scared of that. Yeah, no, I feel i'd be sketched too. Like you know, they say you pay for what you get when it comes

to tattoo ers. My luck bad. So they say it's easy for you to get hepatitis for prison tattoo And they told me that's all I needed to hear. All thought I was going in there, going I'm talking about the first time I went in prison. I'm thinking I'm going there for they go get tatted up. Doctor said, oh, yeah, you know it's this is one of the easiest ways to catch hepatitis. I said, heppatitis to me, it is as to me. So I'm well, you can't get rid of it exactly. I'm all like, if it's anything you

can't get rid of, I'm scared of it, fucking herpes, HIV, hepatitis. Infact, if there isn't a cure for it, I'm out for real, you know what I'm saying, Like, definitely, Yeah, it's crazy. So, uh, what is next for you in terms of like you're you're out I'm sure. I mean, the campaign is rolling, new music coming. I'm just dropping, bro, I'm just I'm just dropping. I'm just coming with a lot of content, uh, keeping the people entertained. You feel me, I'm just coming

with hell of new ship. I got bigger songs, bigger records, doing the district through Empire. Yeah. Yeah, shout out to Gazi shout and those guys. Shout out to that whole that whole camp. You feel me. Know, I've been on Empire from the rip, from the rip, been with Empire longer than anybody that's on Empire right now. I don't doubt that. Yeah, because I'm thinking when I think of Empire early days, I think of you. I think it's

Saved Hart me Save and John Hart. Yeah, that was it at that point, Like that's when get It Though and Red Nose and Right and who Booty were always doing radio runs together and Ship. So yeah, we've been rocking since then. Getter though, was one of them ones too, for surely. Shout out to Tiger Shout. That was like that like whole era of like ninety eight bpm ratchet songs. It's just Tiger somehow made his way on every single remix. I was just like I was just talking to Joe Moses.

I'm like, Damn, Tiger was on dude for the Ratchet's remix. That's he was you, God, damn this motherfuckers jumping on Ever. He's like, you're to play rack City and then you're gonna play the remixes all the songs that I that art mind that I'm on. Yeah for real that time, man, good time at fucking just West Coast clubs. Yeah, I was having a hella fun man was especially coming up this way, and I wish people would make that. Like I feel like there's like a lack of that kind

of ship in the club right now. Like I don't feel like la artists or artists are making like those records right now. Yeah, it ain't know turned up songs. It's like missing low key, like there's like some ship. Like Pelo's doing a good job of making ship that you know, it's cool, but like I feel like I don't know, man, Like the Stunna Man record is cool. I just mean like all Ratchet, the Ratchet ship, like the ship you know what I do? You feel me?

I got something coming right now that's gonna turn all that up good. I promise you that's big too. I got two big features on it. Uh, y'all see real soon. I'm announcing real soon. The song been done. You feel me. We're working on a video right now. And uh, this motherfucker's gonna wake up all the club strip clubs. Okay, that's what's missing, and that's what's crazy is because like Tiger's been like putting out records that have been less than favorable in my opinion, and I'm just like, let's

not overthink this. Tiger put out some shit talking about can we get some more of that? Why G? Same shot? Like, why G, where's the motherfucking where's the ratchet shit? Just give me one of them? Give me one. Like Mazzie put a record out with YG on the hook called put It in My Face that was reminiscent of those hearts. Yeah. I was like, Okay, this is this. I like this one.

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of mac Dre's career. Would you say that he wasn't fully appreciated until he passed away, Yeah, kind of, But I feel like I feel like he was appreciated, but it was a lot of people that didn't know who Dre was till he died. So the motherfuckers that did know Dre, he had a crazy fan base. Well that's what I had always heard, Like that it was more like the white boys, the Berkeley guys, like kind of the nerdy like rap dudes who were like super tapped

in with mac Dre. Yah, they were super tough. Then was like, when you say that, it was like his fans like those were like his core fans. You got blacks and every right of course. Of course, of course, probably not as much. But when he passed away, I feel like his influences really felt he had. Man, he had so much music. Bro he was he has so much ship. That's my favorite rappers. So I know everything from the start to the end. Like that's your goat,

That's that's my goat right there. Oh God, niggas, ask me who my favorite rappers? Trey is number one, Who's number two? Give me the top five? My this is my your personal favorite personal of course, Drey, the Old Little Boosy, okay, MESSI mar I don't even think I got a top five. That's three. It's a good three, the old Little Boozy. Not a fan of the new Little Boozy. I mean, I don't get it wrong. New little Boy cool, but when I if I'm gonna play

some little boy, you can play old shit. I'm playing all all Little Bosty my playing him and Webby all I just pulled up here as a slapping Webby just now, not a Webby man. I wish Webby would do more ship. I feel like he should do a podcast or something, because he's hilarious. Webby was hard. Yeah, it was crazy. If I had to give him to my MoMA site, pot and Fody, that's fairpac and forty. Yeah. How dope is it to see a guy who's like a peer

of yours? Uh you see Berner making the Forbes list or the Forbes cover, not even the Forbes List, He's on the cover of that motherfucker. Yeah. I mean that ship is insane because you know, burn has been in the trenches as like an independent rapper in the Bay forever like Bernard for so long. Mean, Berner went on tour together me and him JDS for me to see how he went. I watched his whole everything. I watched him go from start now. It's crazy. It is, truly.

It's like it's like crazy, man. And I always say, like, you know, somehow he doesn't get enough like respect or flowers. But I'm like, this guy's richer than every rapper everybody, like I don't know, I mean maybe like jay Z like, but we're like we're talking about like on some businessman ship, like Burners richer than everybody. I nigga make more money in a day than what niggas are making a month.

It's crazy. Like whatever city you're in, the building is blue and you have to pull up to get your weed. It could be Detroit, it could be wherever you're at. There's a cookies. If there's a weed, is recreational. Oh yeah, it's on the strip. Yeah, that's crazy everywhere, And it's like a it's like an attraction. It's like, oh, we gotta we gotta go to the cookie store. Oh we come out to l A. We gotta go to the cookie store to the cookies. And that's not even mentioning

like the clothing line doing like stupid numbers. It's insane. Man. Yeah, yeah, he did his thing with that. So all right, so new music coming. You got a new single, come in with two features that you can't talk about. All right, who's on the song? Who's on the song? Give us one of the two fifty the features. Look, man, all right, I'm gonna say this. Just get my nigga, g Easy is on it and cald and I got one more nigga on it, and I'm I'm gonna hold that one. Okay.

The song is done, though, so is the other guy from the bear in LA. He's from l A. Oh yeah, don't be trying to guess, kid, don't be trying to guess. We know you gonna guess, right, and I and I'm alive, say no, that ain't human. Gaz's on the record. Yeah, my nigga, g easy man, right, easy man. He as soon as I came home, you feel me tapped in it and got me to come to the club and saw that man me out. That was a good feeling. That's my nigga, right, good times. Well, it's good, genuine

dude for shurely. We have to keep you out. Oh no, I'm gonna keep me out. Yeah, Oh I ain't going bad. Is it hard? Like because I have cousins that have been like in and out of prison their whole lives, and I feel like you get out of jail, you get out of prison rather or whatever it is, and it's almost like hard to shake, Like is it the environment? Is it the friend group? Is it the mentality? What do you think it is that like most people go through when it comes to like ending up back in

the same place, not even yourself specifically. I mean you obviously know a lot of people who have you just gotta change, oh your direction, Like you gotta change your direction the people you're around or the things that you're doing, Like because I can still be around the same niggas who's out here at committing crimes and shit, but I'm not necessarily gonna put myself in a position to where I'm gonna be going back to jail. You know what I'm saying. I only go to jail for guns, right

every time I go to jails for guns. So for me not to go back to jail, I can't surround myself in certain areas where I'm gonna need a gun.

And if I do, then you feel also like you gotta be just mindful of the environment right now just getting killed nothing And that's the thing for legs for it's crazy, Like we just talked about p and b Rock, Like, yeah, that was crazy, insane man like dudes at a restaurant eating with his girl and in front of niggas is bold now because back in my day, we was robbing niggas a week. Our main thing was nigga, don't don't get shooting nobody, and also don't don't you shoot nobody,

because that's when your chargers get serious. Don't shoot nobody. That was we didn't want to shoot nobody never wanted to shoot nobody. If you robbing them, now you're getting shot before you getting robbed, you getting shot then robbed, yeah, or the other way, you getting robbed and still getting shot. These nigga's crazy, Yeah, because like you said, like if it goes not to shoot anybody, because that's when you you're gonna go to prison for life. People are still

robbing you and then just shooting you. Just that's because that's because look at the world. Now though everybody got ski mask on. Everyone's got the fucking sisty. It's legal to right be anywhere in any business organization with a ski mask. So when you see in this shit every day a nigga walk through with a ski mask on, you just look at him. Whatever. Now nigga's walking in with ski masks, and this nigga fin to do something somebody you don't even know because you see this every day.

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it starts to lighten up, but yeah, peak pandemic. They hit my car for like I left the bank and they hite me for like fifteen bands fresh out of the bank. No, no, so we had surveillance camera. There was a girl in line at the bank watching everybody. She followed me out, got into a car with two dudes, but her whole fucking face was covered up. Bro. So it's like, of course her face was covered up. It's

fuck in the middle of the fucking pandemic. I don't know what this bitch looks like, you know what I'm saying, Like, so what they broke. So what happened was I was at the bank and I was I was I was trying to open up a bank account with one of my business partners, and his name was on like that list that they wouldn't give him a bank account because he got fucked up credit. So I had like fifteen k on me and I had like a big blue like deposit bag. And I was like all right, well,

you know, I told the lady at the bank. I was like, hey, can I just deposit this in my personal account real quick? And she's like, well, you gotta wait in the line. And the line at the bank during the pandemic was insane. This shit was out the building, bro So I was like, man, fuck that. I was come back later. So I'm walking out. I got you know, obviously whoever was in the line saw me with a fat,

fucking blue deposit bag. I literally drive like three blocks away, jump out of the car to run into the ups store. My car's parked right there. Within like thirty seconds of me being in there, bust my window, took my backpack, took my bread it was in the trunk. Oh they bust the window, popped the trons grab all yeah, they good. I was sick. I like that, like the only two times I've ever felt like, damn I could kill somebody.

Was Hey, I know that feeling. I think, yo, shit, get took whoa and you don't know where to look who to get? Man? I got bit so quick. I went to this clothing store in Oakland. I had just left from Kool John getting some some of that cool John weed. You feel me. I bought like two pounds off of me. I had one other pounds in the front seat and one in the back. I ran in it. I went into the clothing store. Man, these little niggas walk past me. They're like, oh, what's up. I'm like,

what's happening? But going to the sw I'm in there for no, I'm not lying, but I'm in there for probably like two minutes. Some lady walk in and say, is anybody in a black such and such. I'm like, yeah, She's like on your window broke. I'm like, nigga, run out there. These little niggas just say, what's up to me? You got the packs? No, they only got one. They got the one in the front seat. You can tell they they grabbed it and got off out of there. You feel me. I'm like, God, I'm like, I don't

even know who to look for. I ain't never seen his nigga. The damn my life. Yo, it's the worst because you're like you said, like, there's like zero bro. I was on some real like CSI ship though. Man. I was, Oh, I paid the dude for the footage of the motherfucking parking lot. I got the make of the car. The license plate was too fuzzy. Bro, I was so fucking it was. I was like, man, I'm I did' I'm gonna find out whose mother fuckers are.

Oh yeah, ship back. I just wanted my laptop back cause I was like, Yo, it's got files and ship. I'm like, yo, keep the money. Fuck it. This money is fair, okay, but give me my computer and my passport back. I was hot, Bro, that's happened. I was, Yeah, that was that was rough? All right? Well, look, man, new music coming, new single coming, little single coming, a lot more other ship coming to though, a lot more other ship. Are you gonna get into the week game?

I mean, obviously on the on the legal side of things, definitely your own strain. I'm already working on that right now as we speak. I was working on that before I got out. That's beautiful, man. So I'm already working on all that week. I got the strands coming, I got a lot of merch coming. I'm all one. I'm all one, right, merch, some tree, some music. Definitely, lots of freedom in your horizon, lots of it there it is, man, my gout deal. Appreciate you pulling up, bro,