#214 - Emilio Rojas

Downtown is crazy, bro in La. But this is La in general, man, Like coming from LA in general for sure. Yeah, but downtown it is fucking insane. Well, because it's all localized into like a small area like skid Row is some crazy shit. I've been around the world. I've never seen anything like that. Yeah, skid Row is very uh, you know, it's always been crazy, so it's not like anything new, but it's it's definitely like like people choose

to be there. I think, well, I think some people choose to be there, and I know like a lot of people are just getting dropped off, like when the prisons get overwhelmed or there's no mental health facilities, they just get dropped off. That's where I think when you get let out of county the bus just that's what I think. I think I heard that, but I can't speak. I think you shouldn't think. I think people are just getting dropped off. No, that's what I That's what I

was told. Oh I just never verified it. Yeah, shout out to skid Row man. Yeah. I like watching just random documentaries or like random YouTube blogs about skid Row because when I walk over there, man, you walk over there not maybe not in skin. I don't think Kev's ever walked in just downtown in general. Wear them just everywhere. Where's all the clubs at down there? I be walking through Crasmoke, Yeah, oh for sure, bro, Yeah, Spring Street

walking through Cracksmoke, Cracksmoke. You see people shoot up, Like I saw this guy who was like dressed like a fucking legit, like you know, fucking hype beast, young white kid, fucking obviously had money with supreme out fucking fire ass like hard to find new balances on right, And I saw him walking and I was like, I was walking past him when I was going into a spot, and when I was walking back the other way, he was like huddled up with all the crackheads, and he like

took his little fucking his little you know, his little man, and he opens and he pulls out the brillo in the crack and you just starts smoking crack with all the homeless guys. And I was like, fuck, like, it must be funner, Like that can't be a lonely drug, Like it must be funner to be like, Yo, I'm gonna go downtown and we'll find some people to smoke crack with because it's better that way. It's a social drug for sure. They're out there passing. Like you want

to be like the rich kids smoking crack alone at home. Nah, that's when you really really lost. You just want to be the rich kid smoking crack with it with all the home with all the other crackheads. Yeah, and just be like, yo, I'll see you guys in two years, I'll be right here with you. At Le's crazy because it's like you'll be in a place like skid Row and there'll be like a chick with like fake titties,

homeless getting piped. I don't even know. But it's like, you know, she came here for something else, she was doing whatever, and then just the city just got her. She got on that fetti wip yeah something, feedanol, Yeah something bro. That meth. Meth is big out here. Feedanyl. He focused on bro. I heard that they're smoking fentanyl now, like they don't even want they know what it is. They're like, no, we don't want uh, we want fentanyl. They're used to smoking it now. Yeah, they built up

the tolerance. Imagine building up a tolerance. Well, that's what happens with opioids, right, Like you had opium, then morphine, than heroin. Yeah, you know, it's just foxies. Yeah, it just gets stronger and strong sets. And now they're just like, give me the fetti, give me the fucking let's do it. It's crazy. Have you tried fetanyel I've been I've been

pretty pretty fortunate to not have tried. Just make sure you're careful because you walk through the wrong cloud of smoke down there, you might fucking Oh yeah, I might have tried on accident a couple of times, and that's terrible. By the way, free fetti wop totally unrelated happened. He got locked up. He's in prison right now. What. I don't know if it was fetanyl, but he got it was some drug ship he got. He got hit pretty hard. I don't want to speak on his case because I

don't know the fact, but he's in us. Yeah, he's locked up. He took a plea jeez. Yeah it sucks, man. Yeah, So what's been going on with you? Man? I'm just working, man. I just dropped a little like remix mixtape on industry Beats called grip Tape because I've been skating a lot. So I used to skateboard a lot when I was a kid. You've been skating a lot? Yeah, Well, why you look so shocked. I'm good, bro, I didn't know

you were a skater. I can skate really good. You just randomly decided to pick it back up because I was having a lot of anxiety, you know, like at the beginning of the pandemic. Like I was like, yo, I'm a grown man having like these anxiety symptoms that I never dealt with before in my life. Like, so you skated him out. I skated him out because skateboarding

is like a really like meditation like activity. You have to really focus, Like if you fuck up your foot placement or something because you're thinking about some other shit, you're gonna fall and like you know, bust your ass. So you really have to focus and it allows you to really disconnect. So the mixtape is you jumping on other beats. That was the one we just dropped. Yeah, that was I got like a bunch of people on it.

I got who I got, I got Nams on it, I got Shots and I got Damn Rick, I got Reverie, like a bunch of like the homies. We just wrapped on a bunch of shit. We wrapped on like kick Push, just you know, because I've been skating, had to do it. That's natural. I had to do it, you know. Then a Millie because that's my name, you know. But now we're moving on. We're about to drop some real music end of this month, end of October. So with a mixtape, you obviously can't put it on DSP. So it's on

the one website, industrybeats dot com. I've never even heard of that. What did you just say? It was on we We dropped on industry beats like they were recorded on top of beats. Oh industry. I thought that was like a new platform. Sorry. I thought you were like, yo, it's on We dropped it on industry beats and I'm like, oh, that must be like a new dat pif nah, the new dat pif nah. So it's on that PIF. No, we didn't. We just put it right fout on YouTube okay,

sound Cloud? Yeah, because you should put it on that PIF. I know, right, why not? I just t you have big shots the fucking and there's my mixtapes app. We use that. Oh ship, look at you. You You fucking up my whole life right now. Keve about to take over my market and shout out to YouTube man. So you pretty much just a lot of YouTube ship, a lot of YouTube ship because I was I was finalized in

a business situation. So now that that's all wrapped, because I wasn't trying to go back into the label system or the distribution company system per se. So I wanted to do something a little different. So as you sent me like a preview a new video, well you sent me in your new video. Yeah, you probably only previewed it because you're fake busy. No, I watched, I watched the whole thing. I'm just you were like chopping Like I told you, it's like some vintage Amilio chopping on here.

Vintage vintage. Yeah, we uh, it's a it's a nod to that the Fat Joe and Punch It Twins, which was a nod to Deep Cover. So obviously being Latino like, I'm super influenced by pun Joe of course. And yeah, I definitely like referenced The Dead in the Middle. Literally. Yeah, I had to so now because I feel like you had like a you were you were kind of like dabbling a bit in this and a shit right, trying to make more like a spanglish ish yeah, kind of.

I feel like you were kind of trying to make more records that weren't necessarily maybe what your core fan base would expect from you. For a while, that was like a lot of external pressures for those types of records. Yeah, yeah, so you know, I had to kind of take it back a little bit. I feel like when you have like a I feel like that you you have you busted a hard left. I feel like, if you're gonna

go there, you gotta make it a gradual left. Well, you know, I was getting pressure, man, Like it was one of those things like, yo, we're going to open a marketing budget. Like, yo, you're Hispanic, you speak Spanish? What are you doing? That was literally, that's literally you know what the conversation was, Oh, you probably have it a lot with Oh, for sure, I know them. They want to take you in. You got to do records that we see me on Dell God bless amazing artists.

But like, it doesn't really make sense with Emilio. You just got to get there, like gradually. I'm just not a fucking I don't do it. Get I don't do right. I think like at the end of the day, like I think your fans have a certain like love for some of the stuff you do. It's very transparent, it's very personal, it's very lyric driven, and I feel like some of the stuff I was hearing from you, I was like, oh, dude, it wasn't this is interesting. This is a hard left. Well it was like we were

trying to mix the two. Right. So I've always made records about girls. I've always done the breakup records and stuff, But like, why don't we put it on like a Latin rhythm, right? Okay? Cool? I mean I'm Latino. I like that those type of records. It's cool. You know, I've been making records for a while, so like there's no harm in experimenting. How did those records do? They did all? Right? Like did you did you notice like it open your fan base and or did it also

piss off your regular fan base a little? Well? I think what I did, which was smart and just not even deliberate, but just what I've always done is just I've always like stayed lyrical, even in those spaces. Yeah, so, I mean you're a fucking beast, so it's like you can't help but be incredible rapping. Thank you. Hey, that's I appreciate that. Thank Yeah. It's like not like people who rap as good as you. It's like, no matter what you're gonna do, it's gonna be dope in terms

of like the lyricism, you know. Yeah, so I think, you know, it's satisfied people a little bit. And I was still trying to give my my core records, you know, like we we tried to walk the line, and I still, you know, like I don't think it was inauthentic to me as a human being, because I like girls. Maybe from a marketing standpoint, it could have been done a little bit more deliberately. So would you say the new stuff coming out is a little bit more like kind

of back to like what got you here type shit? Well, it's like, well, obviously you put a mixtape out, which is very fucking you know, I just wanted to wrap, bro, That's what I mean, Like, that's very vintage of you. Yeah, and it was. It wasn't really a lot of thought put into it, which, right, which is great. Sometimes that's the best thing. You just don't man, I'm sure you've been through this, just overthinking your music. Shit can be

Sometimes the worst finishes better than perfect all the time. Bro. And it's like when you have all these people like, yo, we're gonna open this is a smash, we're gonna do this, this and this, like from the labels or whatever, and you're trying to deliver and then they never deliver on their promises and whatever. It muddies the waters. We got to stop the interview real quick to tell you about our folks at my bookie ladies and gentlemen. Motherfucking NFL

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Yeat breaking point two. So it's a no. Yeah, because I did a mixtape a couple of years ago with DJ Green Lantern and Billionaire Boys Club called Breaking Point. It was a couple of years ago, maybe longer. I mean, my concept of time is fucked. Wait, wouldn't first Green Lantern tape you did maybe ten years ago? It might have been ten years ago. Okay, wait, wait like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, So that's the same one. That's the sequel. Yeah, it's took a while, Okay, I just want to make

sure I'm not crazy. It's like a terminator type. Are you sure that was like eleven years ago? This is like Avatar Avatar two. It might have been twelve years ago. I think it was twenty eleven, so eleven, yeah, yeah, I think it's more twenty eleven. May yeah, yea, yeah, I don't know. You probably know better than I do. I think it was twenty ten, twenty ten. I'm gonna look it up. We should look it up. Let's look it up. We have these fucking million dollar devices in

our hands. I mean, I'm because I'm trying to remember when I first I feel like I was working at Power. I don't know. You might have been, might have been nah, breaking Point it says it says twenty thirteen on here twenty twelve. I think twenty eleven, because that's only twenty eleven. It says here Amelia was Breaking Point produced by j twenty eleven. So that means the record because that was when everything wasn't project like we would run singles before projects, right,

it wasn't like a post campaign. Okay, so yeah, it was about ten years ago. Let's just say ten well average, it's a ten a cool decade, a cool you know, a little dime. Was that your that was your first or that was your first? I think second that was your saying okay, because maybe it was this It was the first one that people cared that I like came to you for because I remember finding you through my boy Slim in Phoenix. You did a drop for a once for me shot at the Dear Departy of Clothing.

But yeah, shot to you, man. So it's been ten years, it's been not a couple. Well, dude, I don't know, man, I'm just fucking my time. My time thing is fucked. Yeah, it's all good man. You fucking you're a veteran. I'm a vet. Yeah, you're a vet. I want was mine? Bro? I want like I feel like I haven't gotten what

I deserve, so I'm like after it right now. What do you think like has been because I feel like there's been a lot of artists who are kind of from your era that maybe went like a little underappreciated, maybe a little under the radar, maybe feel the same way you feel. What what would you attribute that to? I think it's a right like regardless of like the fact that the Latin shit is huge now. When I entered the space, I was a brand new artist, a

brand new idea. Like all the Latino artists in the past historically have been like very like more gangster, more street like. I'm like kind of like late blog era late. Yeah, I missed the early I missed like the blog era

where everybody's popping. Yeah. So I think it was a mix of like the labels not knowing what box to put me in, right, and then kind of like catching the tail end of the blog era and not really like wanting to like transition to the streaming era, like we kind of fought it a little bit, like why

am I giving records away for free? You know? And then you know, I had like some personal shit, like some like I was with Violator for a little bit, and like when Chris light he passed it like it fucked me up a little bit, right, fuck a lot of people up, for sure, exactly. So rest in peace to Chris and you know it just I had to get my shit together. I wasn't ready emotionally to do a lot of the things that I like feel like

I'm ready for now. Like one thing they don't tell you about in music is like, yeah, you could be talented, you can make records, but if your mindset isn't right, you're not gonna. I feel like you're just not going to be given those opportunities. Mmm, you know, like or maybe you're not ready for him exactly, or you can't

even recognize that they're there to activate them. Yeah, it's like yeah, because like at that time, you know, I had a list artist calling me and ship and like trying to insert me into situations that they were developing. And I didn't even really know at the time, like how to capitalize on those opportunity. Who's trying to sign you? I forget who was. There was some there was some talk about you signed with somebody we went to, Uh we were talking with Rose. I was gonna say I

thought it was MMG. Yeah. There was a couple of other ones that weren't like publicized, I just keep it private. I remember the MMG one. That's the one. I think I'm thinking of how far did that get down the line because he was trying to sign a lot. He was trying to sign you, Nipsey, uh fucking Don Kennedy. I mean Rose, I think he was in the middle of changing labels from like Warner to Deaf Jam it was Warner. Yeah, well it was Warner to Atlantic. Oh okay,

Warner to Atlantic. Yeah, because that was when MMG originally was on Warner, and then there was a big I don't know what happened, but then everything from MMG ended up on Atlantic, yeah exactly. And I think we we weren't organized on my end. You know, when I had like the Spotlight at that moment, it was accidental. It wasn't deliberate. Like I had done a record with like Big crit and Laws, and I remember shouts and Laws from Tampa, big shouts. What happened to loss? I think

another one got caught up at Laws. I think the team he was working with took the joy out of the creative wasn't any Justice League. I can't say names definitively, So you're saying the Justice League took the creative process out of it. I'm just kidding. No, I mean Rook. I love Rook and I love the Justice League. They are some of my favorite producer of all time. But I think you know, when you deal with certain people, they haven't popped an artists off. Let's be honest, they're

fucking incredible. But I mean they also signed a homie from Tampa. What was a kid's name, Prime Prime, nice kid from Tampa. I mean, I lived in Tampa, and justicee fucking legendary. They're some of my favorite producers of all time. I mean, they have like the best Rick Ross songs of all time ever. Yeah, but like out side of the Rick Ross stuff, I think they gave him his sound, you know, they gave him his sound, and I really wish that, Like, I really wish they

I wish they did more shit. Like maybe they are and I'm just not hip to it, you know, but I'll say this Laws was fire. Laws is super talented, and I don't know if it was like the label side of things. I don't know where, but somewhere along the line he lost to love first. It was hard. I think he's dropping records again now though, but I think that's why he stepped back. Should reach out there, Rock, Let's reach out to Laws. Let's bring Tampa's to Laws.

I fuck with Laws heavy, good dude. That was kind of Yeah, he was kind of like late blog era guy too. You guys are kind of the same kind of you know, ye Yeah. So you did a record with Laws and krit Yeah, and it's just like the way I came off on the record put a lot of attention on me that I wasn't ready for. Like

I didn't even have fucking records done. So it's like we were in a situation where I was like, as you know, right, you got to have shit ready to go for sure immediately, and we were just chasing our tail. So I had to step back, pause, build up like a folder, hard drive, hundreds of records, videos, all that shit, and just get ready to execute. So when you did you like meet face to face with Ross about the whole shit. Yeah, we flew out there. I flew out

to Oakland one time with him. I was in Philly with him one time. It was Meek Millier in Philly. I don't I don't think so. I think it was on they were on tour with Lil Wayne Yea at the time. There's a few artists on image like I love to Pill shot out. My guy PI doublel Pill is super dope too. He's super dope. Yeah, I don't know what happened, man, he was so fire though. Well I kind of know what happened, but shout out to Pill. He's a he's a great guy. Sometimes your demons get

the best, That's what I'll say. Oh yeah, I don't know. Pill was a beast man. But yeah, not that that. I feel like you were part of like a dope class of rappers. I just feel like sometimes man, like the end of the day, man, like you said, sometimes they're not ready. Sometimes I had to be humble to I was a dick. Ninety nine percent of this ship too,

is luck. Like people think that like it's hard work, it's personally you gotta be ready to like be persevering and persevered through all kinds of funck shit, and you also got to catch a break. Yep. And that's the thing, right. I think when you're talented, I think you can create opportunities by being consistent. But if you're not consistent and thosees come, it fucks you. Yeah, for sure. And also like I was a cocky little prick, broa, you're a little cocky. Yeah, I think it's cool with me, but

I felt that for sure. Yeah, I had to be humbled. Had a rapper syndrome, Yep, that happens all with a lot of guys. Yep. I had to be humbled, and I feel like, you know, some people never got humbled and they just accelerated, you know, popped off. I would do what you just did, look like the Hitler salute. We're gonna point out that's not what he did. That's not what I did. He said, sorry anyway, now, uh yeah,

So what would you say? Humbled? You life? Bro? Like having situations that I was planning on not paying out, yeah, you know, and like I was, I was with a team of talented individuals and we weren't necessarily always seeing

out of eye. And when things, you know, when when ship that you're planning on happening doesn't happen, and it happens repeatedly, you start to realize like, all right, maybe I'm the problem, right, you know, So I had to look internally and like really examine my behavior, my level of preparation for certain things, like you know, when you come to an interview, you got to make sure you have your bars ready, and you know, it was different.

Then it's like I got this, yeah yeah, and it's like now I'm like, you know what, like this is the spot that a lot of people would kill to be in, even in the spot that I'm in now, yeah, for sure. So I can't take that for granted. And I can't act like it's old to me. I can't act like any relationship is old to me or any interaction is old to me. And people respect. Most people

really need to walk that way. Man. A lot of people don't, and it's catching up to a lot of people, it is, and then they end up like, oh shit, and by then all their fucking relationships are burned to the ground. Bro, Now that's real. Did you ever like, like I feel like a lot of people who fuck with psychedelics or eat a bunch of dams? Now you know it's crazy. I've been given so many fucking mushrooms lately tried them. I've never done them. You should do them, man,

Well you're not. You're kind of like strategical. I'm pretty clean. Yeah. I don't drink fucking kombucha, and I like ko you know, I like the fermented mushroom juice. That's what it is, right, It's like a fucking must should taste like hippie soda. It's good. I mean, I should taste like fucking it's fucking shaggy from fucking Scooby Doo's ball here tastes terrible, is got awful, like yo, it's a probiotic like, so

what it tastes like shit? Yeah it does. It was an acquired taste for sure, but sons like most alcohol, I feel like alcohol is terrible. Yeah, people need to stop back. I'm like, it's good. Yeah, alcohol fucking sucks you like it because it gets you drunk. But no

one's drinking tequila and being like damn that. I mean, there's people who say, I mean because there is a difference between shitty tequila and good Yeah, some of it's smoother than for sure, but it's still in taste, like you wouldn't like if you knew you could drink an entire gallon of it and and nothing would happen to you and it wouldn't get you drunk. If it was just like a flavor of a soda, you wouldn't drink

it because it tastes like shit. Yeah, Like if you went to like McDonald's and they had tequila on the fucking the soda machine, like, you wouldn't pick it because you wouldn't want to drink a whole cup of that. Yeah, it's fucking terrible to I mean it's alcohol. It's like, but I'm saying, like, let's say take the alcohol in the what would happen to you if you actually drink a full cup of tequila? Take all that out of it. Let's say it was just a drink that tasted that way.

Nobody would drink it. It's fucking terrible. Yeah, but it's for a purpose. It's a purpose you get drunk. Yeah, same thing with beer. Fuck beer. I love Corona, but you know I love it because it gets me fucked up. You're like, oh, fucking playing dominoes on the bloxt the Corona. Appreciate y'all watching, but listen, our partners at Blue Cheo they got you, handled fellas and et Cetera's whatever you are, they got it. If you got a dick, blue Choo is for you because they will make sure your dick

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you know, it's crazy. I was. I didn't go to your hometown, but I went to, uh the top of New York, upstate New York. I went to Buffalo for a day, which isn't too far from where you're from, right hour. Yeah, it's a whole way different up there. Huh, it's different. It's it feels like the South low key. Yeah, it definitely. I like Buffalo fell a little like Detroit because I've been to both places. Well that's I mean

Rochester Buffalo. You have any any city in America that had like a lot of prosperity during like the era of production when we had like factories and plants and shit. When you take that away, you're just going to see it economically depressed wasteland. Right, there's someone else from Rochester that's I feel like a spash splash eto. Yeah, shot to Rochester, man, rock Town, Rocktown, Flower City five A five. Is there flowers there? Yeah? Lilocks, lilocks Lightlock's beautiful. What's

it look? It's like like small petals, It's like a like a kind of like grown on a I don't know how to describe it. Beautiful, nice little How close to Canada is that? Like an hour and a half. Do you go hang out in Canada when you're growing up? Not really to go to Toronto. I've been in Toronto, but not not when I was growing Oh once when I was young. You're pretty traveled. Yeah, I've been around. I've been around. Your opinion, what city has the most

beautiful women? Miami? I agree, Yeah, because Miami is like a melting pot of all, like the women from Latin America, which is all I love. If you go to Miami and you go to McDonald's, yeah, the trick work in the drive through is a seven at least. Yeah, it she'll be bad. It's wild. Well that's in the US, Like if you go to like Catacas, Venezuela or something. I don't even want to get into that. Yeah, because if I go out there, I'm getting divorced. I couldn't.

I couldn't go. I could, I just couldn't know. Columbia trips and Colombia is the problem if I go there. If I go to Brazil, I'm not sure what would happen. But with that being said, Miami's beautiful place. Miami's Miami's fire. Yeah. I feel like Miami too is at all the cities in the US. I won't even say it, so shout out to Mia. What no, no, no say. I will just say what we got to give up to Miami. I'm gonna be there for the Billboard Awards at the end of the month. Okay, let's go to get yourself

some fucking chop. I guess some Venezuelan food. I went to. Uh, I've never had that kind of food. Bro, let's let's fucking let's make that happen. I barely just had papoosas like three years ago. What for the first time when I moved to La. It's the same type of massa like cornmeal. So papoosas is like for people who don't know it's El Salvadorian food. I'm from Phoenix. We only have Mexican food, and if there is papoosas in Phoenix,

they can't be great. But out here in LA it's kind of like it's like, probably I would venture to say there's probably more El Salvadorians here than anywhere else in the US. I would probably agree. Yeah, So I have the census in front of me. So like the the the Papoosas are amazing. Yeah, if you go to the right place, it's like game changing. So like shout out to Papoosas. But I never obviously love Cuban food. Oh fucking awesome. There's like that really old restaurant. It's

in Miami. It's uh it's in Versailles, yeah, Versaia. Yeah, that's where we went. That ship was good. Versi is good. Have you been up to Portos? Portos got some they got so you know what it is. I'mnna be honest about Portos when someone tells me it's the number one rated restaurant in the country for on YELP. When I go there, I just expect to ejaculate when I eat the food. I mean I didn't bakery, I didn't come. It's all I'm gonna say. It's like one of those things. Man, La.

I feel like La food is real hit or missed too. Portals is fire. It is good. I love the meat, the meatballs, like the little the Papa egg and those are fire. I love they got a chickens. They got both their chicken sandwiches. They are fucking crazy. The Cuban sandwich is cool, but they got two chicken sandwiches that are insane. And then they're you know, obviously they got great uh pastries, and they got a guava French toast.

Fucking delicious, bro Guava French toast, that's not good. I'm not a big on the guava bro I'm telling I had like one of the guava pastries from Portos with the cheese. You gotta have with the cheese, though, I had whatever it is the one that they're one of them is just just the guava and the other has the cream cheese too. You got to get the cream cheese to balance out the jelly. I don't know, man, Guaba might not be my fruit. Maybe maybe you need

like some strawberry jam. You're oh, yeah, give me the strawberry. Fucking basic as fuck, Give me the strawberry. What's your wife? What is your wife? She's Mexican and she don't what if she cooks the fuck out of food? Does she make like handmade tortillas and shiit? Uh? She can, but I mean it's not necessary. It's kind of a lot to make a handmade tor a lot. Yeah, it's she makes everything else homemade. She's very you know, my wife

cooks sole and all that. Yeah, Mexican food is so different on the West Coast in New York because it's really it's authentic. Yeah yeah, New York Mexican food is trash. It's god awful. It's awful. Bro, It's so bad. And so is Florida Mexican food. I lived in Tampa, and trying to find real Mexican food in Tampa was fucked. It was the worst shit ever. I was like, fuck, man, I have to drive like forty five minutes to the shitty little taco stand and it was like good enough,

but it wasn't great. Well, they it's like different tacos. They like that's terrible. Some like in New York they have hard shell tacos. Bro. I mean, look like I'm talking about Oldel Pass. They bought the shells from it breaks. Yeah yeah fuck that bro. Do you miss the East Coast? Hell yeah, I missed the East coast? Really? Yeah? You don't miss the East coast? Well your West coast, boy, you West coast. I mean it was I don't give a East Coast was cool. I only live in Florida.

Oh yeah, I mean this is south It's different. Florida was cool. I love Florida. The beach is nice, the beach is here suck well, it depends more heroin needles to dodge. Yeah, La is a fucking open air drug market. The fucking water's freezing. And Florida the water's piss warm. It's clear, and it's clear. Beaches are all sandy. There might be some fucking you know, there might be a couple of maga hats on the beach, but you know whatever. You know what, man right wing, left wing, same bird, yeah,

same ship. Both of them are batshit crazy. If you go to the extreme right and left, it shit gets hairy on it either side. And yeah, I fuck burn the whole shit down. Just tell me what makes like actual sense, and that's what I support. Does this make sense or is this batshit crazy? Hmmm, well, you know what it is. I feel like politicians over the past five to ten years have been less focused on policy

and more focused on like seo and clickbait. Yes, And it's like they want to make headlines, yeah, and they want to be on Twitter, they want to trend and it's like, why don't you just shut the fuck up get something done? Yeah, go get something done, like you all suck. They all suck. Yeah, they all suck. And I used to be I mean, I'm still a liberal guy. You know. I've was in for Joe Biden, but god damn, bro, if this pandemic hasn't, maybe like feel like, what do

we I'm looking at a mother so like that. How these motherfucking left motherfuckers more crazy than these right motherfuckers? On crazy? It's crazy, it's crazy, and these people like nobody has like their finger like on the pulse of what's really going on? Everybody, or like normal people, like why don't we just fucking talk to the normal people who aren't screaming on Twitter and showing up to rallies. Oh my god, just the normal motherfuckers. It's bad. It's

so bad on both sides. Like I'm embarrassed to be I would be embarrassed to be either side. Bro, And listen, I voted for Joe Biden. I hate Joe Biden, but god damn, yeah, he's been fucking awful, bro, he's been awful. The way we pulled out of Afghanistan was insane. There's a lot of shit going on. You got to keep him off bikes, keep him off bikes. Just leticious make him talk as at least as possible. Economies fucked, Powell's

fucking horrible. Yellen's fucking horrible. Everything's fucked. Yeah, But that being said, if you have some student dad at least ten grand of it's been choven off. You see you later. Well, you know, inflation's not a big deal. It's just flation's fucked. Inflation is fucked. Yeah. I hope they don't run him again. I think they will think what run what Joe Biden? He's a one term president for sure. I don't know who. He might not even live through this term. He's fucking demented,

let's hope. So I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Sucks because Kamala Harris ain't any fucking better. I haven't even seen her speak. She's top cop, bro, she was incarcerating more people than I don't know. You know what's crazy?

Whoever is the first presidential candidate that comes out and says and just like, imagine if if Joe Biden really wanted to win again, yeah, and if Trump wanted to just grab all of the left's votes, they literally would come out and just say We're gonna make marijuana federally legal, and everyone who's in prison for weed is getting released. That's what they need to do. Everybody would vote for that person. Normal people would be like, I mean, well, I mean I think you and I were like from

liberally leaning cities. Yeah, you go to the Midwest, bro, there's a stark difference between the attitude. I feel like even the Rednecks I know love weed. Yeah. Yeah, they all fucking smoke weed, and they all probably have cousins that are in jail for weed defenses. It's like, dude, like, what the fuck? Well, the we sh the war on drugs is just crazy in general, they need to like

prohibition has never worked for anything historically ever. Right. All I know is what I knew about the war on drugs when I was a kid was all because of a mortal technique. Yep. And it's true. But it's like, you have this shit going on with the war on drugs, right. You have families being separated because it's only hitting certain communities. Right.

You have a whole black market economy that's been created to like perpetuate this war, right in this endless fucking enemy less war, and all it does is like keep people in prison, keep you know, the money printers on for like the police, the prison industry on. Yeah, and it's like it doesn't stop drug use. Would you be a proponent of legalizing drugs and the legalize all of it? Bro because people have fucking we're just talking about it.

I walk through downtown Los Angeles right now and I'm breathing in crack smoke anyways, So at least if you decriminalize it, you could regulate it. So you could be regulated. There could be places where people aren't getting fucking fetanol laced fucking pills exactly, and there's no black market economy. People getting shot on the cartel would be a lot less powerful because I think Mexico is about to legalize I think I saw they were oh no, no, no,

Colombia is legalizing cocaine. Why not, So that's gonna fuck up. It's their entire economy anyway, So they're going to legalize it. It's Colombia. I saw that rugs, and it makes sense because think about all the violence that's used to support the drug trade. No, for sure, I think as much as it might push people to try drugs more, I think that you'll save a lot of lives in the

long run. And there's also like with drug use, there's a stigma, right with addiction, and if you start to decriminalize or legalize in some cases drugs, like it helps Like if chemically treating addiction worked, you could get a nicotine patch and stop smoking cigarettes, right, Yeah, But there's so many other things that are factored into what keep

you fucking stuck on a substance. Right, you have the social component, you have the emotional component, and it's like if you decriminalize things and you start to destigmatize them, at least it allows you to resocialize if you're an addict. Yeah, and I think too, it also removes the romanticization of it for like a kid growing up, because I know in some countries where like the drinking age is like fourteen,

like there's like less alcoholics. I think it's Italy. Yeah, it's like yo, like if people want to try shit because they think it's like, oh shit, I'm rebelling, I'm fucking I'm I'm gonna get I can't try this shit. I'm gonna go find it. But if it's like if it's just readily available, I think it'll make it like less popular with kids, which is kind of weird to say. No, it makes perfect sense because people want to do what they can't do, especially at that age. It's like human nature.

If you're a kid, you're trying to assert your authority and independence, right, so why wouldn't you. It'd be no different than like, I mean, look, at the end of the day, alcohol is probably way more deadly than a lot of drugs, which is yeah, maybe except like fail biates, yeah, dopeiates, yeah, I would say, but like, it's probably more deadly than meth.

Maybe I don't know about enough about math. Neither do I, but I mean I would venture to say that would alcohol probably have killed more people every year than meth. I don't know, we should look that up unless you're smoking fucking feting al lace meth, yeah, which is where it's you know. But that's why you need to legalize meths so you could regulate what you should be able

to just go to the store and buy some fucking Adderall. Well, that's what happens with drugs, right, Like if you're buying heroin on the street, it's strong on Tuesday, so you need two bundles but then on fucking Thursday, it's week so you need six bundles. But then Friday you go to use again. It was weekdyesterday, but they hit you with the strong dose from and they hit you with that fetti and you're fucking dead. Yeah it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, hope you. I mean, I think like the thing about uh,

you know, pills and heroin and all that. I mean that shit, if it's if it was regulated, if you could go somewhere, I know you're getting a safe dosage, and you know, I feel like like it still sucks. You should try to get off of it, for sure, But at the same time, like either way, you're gonna get the drugs. Just now you remove the sharing needles, HIV shit, fucking people overdose it, fatan Ah. You kind

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So we're dropping Creep with Me October twenty eighth. That's the video in a single I Fucked it Up. So we're dropping Creep with Me September twenty eighth. Okay, we're dropping the video the week after and it's just going to be NonStop after that, and then the project before the end of the year, maybe Project Top of the Year, Okay, because you know the fourth fourth quarters kind of everything gets shut down in December. Yeah, music industry is the

fucking worst, bro. Yeah, And even like beginning of January, you almost want to like drop the third or fourth week of January. People don't. People go, I'm on vacation till Thanksgiving. From Thanksgiving to like April, they're just gone and we don't even do anything but socialized for work. That's our jobs. Yeah, this fucking makes no sense. Yeah, I might be one of those guys this year, one of the for a month. He just made that choice, like I'm out, everybody else is off. Cool, let's stack

up some interviews and I'm going to Mexico. That's going to haway. You're going to sell people in out content, Yeah, for sure. No, you can't take off though, you can't take all the way off, especially what I do. You know, bro, people take off. Oh, in the music industry, they're gone, gone, you can't get nothing done. The Spotify guys take off. Everybody's off. But why I don't know, man, It's just kind of the norm in the industry. Bro. Industry needs

to be changed. Yeah, I mean in a different a bunch of different ways that it needs to be more favorable for the artists. It needs to be like more productive. You know who's doing a good jobs. Lou Russell. I'm familiar with him, like I've seen his freestyle. This new thing is he's he built a venue at his house. Well that's fire already, and in order to attend, you have to put an offer for your ticket. So then he goes and looks at all of the offers and

he picks whoever he wants to accept. So like he might have a two hundred person show, but make like twenty grand in his backyard. And when he goes on tour, he's gonna do select cities and he's only going to do that model for his whole tour. So if you're in like maybe he does five cities, right, ten cities, whatever, when you go see him live, you have to put an offer in for your ticket and then you'll find out if he accepts it. That's fucking crazy. That's super inches.

No promoters, no split in the house. Hey calls the venue, how much to rent the venue? Rents it out, takes it all. This is what my sound looks like. Can you support what my setup is? If not cool, we'll find a different venue. I mean the promoters nowadays they want you to do all the shit on socials anyway, So it's like so it's like, why not keep all the money? Yeah? Exactly, So anything else coming up? Man, we h. I did a project with the Coyotes and

Domain got that fire, super fire. Yep. Those guys are dope, both of them are, I mean Coyotes are. The two brothers are incredible and Domain is incredible, super dope and it's good. Like I like, I've been really rapping some Cypress Morino production on there. You know, we haven't linked with him yet, but his names come up a couple times. I haven't met. It works with both of them. He's dope from La Super He's dope. Yeah, I definitely would like to reach out to him. We got that, we

got the Breaking Point two project. I got tons of videos. I'm just going bro and like, back on your shit. I'm back on my ship and it's like I feel good. Well listen, go run up. The September twenty eighth is the video September twenty eighth creep with Me on DSP's and the week later the video okay, and then we just dropped the freestyle. That's probably the other YouTube video that you could see that's crazy. Yeah it's fire. I fucked up a word, but you didn't. I didn't. Don't.

Don't even put that out there because they won't notice. And I let him. I like it when people are like, yo, what Internet's the worst brou They'll be welcome. Emano Rojas, Boom Piece, Fire