#211 - Bizarre

ship is I didn't. I just played this ship on the radio. I broke, you know, broke break records and ship. What's your biggest record you broke? Probably like like early J Cole, early Kendrick, like randomly enough Maclamore. I was playing Maclamore super early underground hip hop show. Uh he started off an underground Yeah, okay, some more backpack you like, you know, hipster ship, hipster rap, fucking hipster rap at its finest. Damn Yeah, young Mac, what's going on with you? Man?

Man trying to be a hipster man? I respect it. It's a nice like late life decision to pivot to. Yeah, man, I'm going through a different Personnalities it is mystery person. So you're in hipster mode of Bizarre's career right now. Are we changing them? Are you singing about trans rites and stuff? Wow, you're changing it up? Yeah, I gotta

change it up man, the new millennium. Man, do you feel like when you listen to your music at times like from like back in the day and even you know, newer stuff, It's obviously you'd be saying some wild shit, especially like vintage D twelve shit. Because I always think, like, damn, notice, Like I always like talk to artists about like just kind of the state of how sensitive everybody is nowadays.

I'm like, yeah, I don't know if Marshall matters up you could happen in twenty twenty two, Like I don't know if Purple Pills could happen in twenty twenty two or Devil's Night, Like is that? Uh? Do you ever like listen to your old ship and be like, damn, I was saying some wild ship. Yeah, yeah, I'll be forgetting half of it shit. I'll be saying, man, what do you think is like the craziest line you've said on a song that you think might like if it if it came out today would get you in some

serious ship. Uh, I don't know. Maybe you know when my hands is so them my mother something, Dick and I didn't come. That's one of the raunchy ones. I don't know. Any ship about kids probably will be probably, yeah, anything about it'd be like Airy Spears, who's a saw he did a bit. He did a bit about kids, like twelve years ago. They're trying to cancel them now

for it because it's like rehashed. Damn him and Tiffany Hads are in the skit in like twenty twelve and people are mad about it all like out of nowhere. Oh jay z yeah great, he just great impersonations jay z impersonations, Insane x one is dope. Yeah. Yeah. They trying to cancel my man, get me my get his

as out of there. It's crazy, man, it's crazy nowadays. Like, how would you say, like, you know, being bizarre, knowing that you're kind of like I feel like when people listen to Bizarre, they're expecting a certain level of like shock value or is it like a little harder to deliver that how you'd like to nowadays? Uh? Well, I think I'm being a little bit more lyrical now with the shock, but I still sneak my little punches in there. Man. I think it's my That's just why my my brain

is wired. Man. Right, So I'm a little bit sneakyer with the punches, but they still they're still they're still flagrant, They're still funny. Yeah, yeah, you're here. Ship was always hilarious. Yeah, I feel like you could. It did stand up. Yeah, you know, but I'm trying to scale back a little bit. I say one the two, like, I think I said something about little nons X. He ain't important, especially after he didn't get that abortion. Oh because he was pregnant.

Yeah by me, Yeah, he was a pregnant male. It was a nice rollout. Hey, it was a good rollout. Hey had people talking. You wrote a bar about it worked, right, damn. Yeah. So I'm still sneaking to men. Yeah, I don't. I don't think people take much too serious. Man. I think I think they kind of know you're like people. Other people can't say what I say, Yeah, someone if someone

else said that, it'd be a problem. But I feel like people expect that level of like comedy or like at least like they're not going to take it like personal if you say it. But what if I'm serious? I don't know. And you could have stopped to help me before I really committed a serious crime. That would be crazy. I couldn't stop yet. You could have talked to me. Yeah. This guy over here with the mullet is that's his job. He's juiced up, bay oh man, he wants to talk about his red bull. That's it.

This guy smoked two packs of black. Amount of the day one hundred percent. Man. I was just telling you I spent some time out in Detroit recently, and uh man, I really Detroit hanging out with We shot with Sada Baby out there on the east side. We were with Perrol Giovanni. On the west side, we were with we were with Icewear Vessel. He was shooting his movie. So we just stayed out there for a week and just shot a bunch of stuff for above All and it was it was fun. Man. I enjoyed it a lot.

I didn't know what to expect, did you hear? Like, you know, you gotta come fuck with us next time when you come to the dem What part of Detroit A you're from? From seven Mile Evergreen? Okay? Is that the east side or west side just the side okay, deep deep west side, deep west side. I know, like there's like a bit of a vibe change from the

west side. Well from what I would say that like, the west side seems a little from what everyone has told me, it's a little bit more of the flashier hustler that's to where the east side is a little more like you know, ryany maybe you know what I'm saying. Like so, I don't know, I really Uh, the food was cool. I told you there's a fucking Coney Island on every corner. Did you go to Starters? I don't think I did, Okay, I just know we was just

pulling up the Coney Islands. That was like everybody would go to their hood. They'd be like, we got to take you to our Coney, Yeah, because that's that's that's that's a real big thing in Detroit of you know what coney did you go to? Right? Because you know, you know, you asked me, what's my favorite Coney is lines Coney Island on seven mile Okay, And it's because

we got this Omelik called the seven Mile omelet. Oh and basically they put everything in the whole store in it inside the almond Yeah, hash Browns all type of sounds like a movie. Yeah, that's your go to chili, the chi, the chili from the Chilian chiches. They put the chili inside down with too. That sounds like a fucking diarrhea though. That sounds like a fucking problem for the fucking toilet. And then we were super cliche. We

were driving through Nikki D's drive through o'clock in the morning. No, it was this was like one pm because we had to shoot at like two, and they were like, go to Nikki D's is right over here. And then we this was the first time we had been on eight Mile Road, right, so I'm like fresh and this was like our first day in town. So I just did you did you notice the potholes? Oh? Yeah, okay. So I'm just fucking blaring eminem and the drive through just

being like the most stereotypical white dude who's onifaication. I was doing it to be funny. But then we actually drove to the trailer park, the eight Mile Trailer Park, and that ship was fucked up. I was like, this is crazy, this ship is depressing. They're like, yeah, it was like some toothless ladies smoking. She's on the corner. I'm like, hey, which one was Eminem. She's like, you see that empty lot right there? It was right there?

Went down. Wow. I was like, shit, fucked up over there? Man? Man, that's where they shot the movie yet, yes, where they shot the movie at? Man? Did they take you on seven Mile in Dresley? I don't know where, everybody, that's another house you live in Detroit? No, no, no, I just drove. I just drove by it. We just googled Eminem trailer Park and just went. You know, many people coming from like all around the world just to see a mom I'm sure overseas German. I'm sure, I'm sure.

And it's probably not the safest place to just be hanging out at right. What do you think I would say based on my experience all the places we were at, We're not too far from eight Mile, and we were in some pretty hairy areas. Yeah, like yeah, probably like y'alls on seven Mile and and crash, it were all over the place. Yeah, But but yeah, I would say, you know, probably not the the smartest thing I did do.

The Mom's spaghetti restaurant was just terrible. I went for the mom spaghetti wasn't good man, I wanted to like it. You Italian energy. Nah, I'm just playing. I'm German and Irish. I can't tell you what you is because you ain't got the much to German and Irish. Bro German, Irish boring white, Okay. I feel like if you're Italian, there's like some sort of like, no, I'm not white, I'm Italian. German and Irish is like that's like crazy, You're crazy, motherfucker.

That's just white as fuck. That's like as bad as boring of Caucasic. I mean, the only thing I can say other is like being English. Yeah, you know what I appreciate about you is that you are as a black man in hip hop, you're fully embraced Caucasian humor, damn, because you know, I can't. I have joke in front of my homies and they'll call me gay, you know, and they'll be like, Yo, you're fucking wild. What the

fung I can appreciate it. I'm saying your humor to me, I feel like has always been very similar to mine, very dark, fucked up people at at times questionable, Yeah, definitely question Yeah, Like are there certain jokes. You can't get off with certain homies that you can get off with that guy. Uh yeah, he laughed at anything. Yeah, he laughing any babe, I keep him laughing. Man. So I can't really really trust on him. What's going on with the music ship right now? What do you got

going on? Man? Absolutely nothing? Nothing, no, man, man, I just uh, I just dropped the album called He Got a Gun, great name. Yeah, and I did the whole album with my man file off over there, the guy with the mullet, he's the producer. Yeah he's here, Okay, Yeah, he did the whole album from beginning and the the end. So I had really lost the love for hip hop

for a minute. I wasn't really fucking with it. So my boy, King Gordian introduced me to this guy, King Gordy Yeah, yep, yep, legend Van Nike and Harper and uh, this guy here, he was just so pure on hip hop, like I mean this, I mean, this guy doesn't give a funk about nothing but recording. So he had the like typical old school basement six dogs, four cats, his girl cooking cats, yeah, the girl cooking the meal, and

his kids jumping around crazy just to smell. Oh man, awful. Yeah, like a fucked up six dogs, four cats getting made and there's kids, cats eating on the counter, all that shit. You know, I'm not surprised, but it made. It was an environment that I needed, man. So you know he brought that old you know what I'm saying, that old bizarre back to the battle rap Bazaar, saying before the crazy Sick Rapist Bizarre, the crazy Sick Rapist Bizarre. Yeah. So I'm proud of this album, man, you know what

I'm saying. We we just been. I had to move in his basement for two months. You lived in his basement with the cats and the dogs. Yep, shout out to Gurdy his dog, his dog. And so while living there, you finished the album. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, man, it was a long process too, man, because you know he records on acid. Bro, Are you kidding? Are you engineers familiar with that? Are you kidding? Serious? Yes? What year? What could we help Cyrus before he leaves? Can we get

him a crack? Let's just get him. Let's get him a crack for pro tools or something. I haven't heard Sony Assid since high school. We'll get bro, We'll get you a nice jump drive. We gotta get you wrong. Okay, I had to send it to your boy on pro tools. You're not gonna get off that easy, man. Wow. Salute to you man that he's been on it since like seventy three something, since fucking the internet started. But AOL he still got. He still got AOL trial CDs. Okay,

but trial CDs. But it gives the rawness of the album. It gives it a sound, it gives it a grit, It gives us the Honger his house for like a mon of teenagers that went over there. We caught the bus over there to do a song. Shit nice you were. I feel like sometimes people don't realize like that you did come from the battle scene that you were. Like, I feel like we think of your bars as like, you know, very funny, but I feel like in that it's your Your skills as an MC or probably aren't

respected as as they probably should be. Do you feel like this project you kind of yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely yeah, because you know, when I was in D twelve, I had like a role to play a character, you know what I'm saying. And Marshall he really liked it. The D voice. Yeah, so like sometimes the devoice what would have me to he would be worried more about the you know what I'm saying, the funny shit din really

the line on syllable or something like that. So so would you say you were kind of like, hey, look, your role is to do this exactly. You are the fun You're the comedic relief of the crew. You're gonna say the most wildest most Outlander ship and it's gonna be okay because your name is bizarre. I've been saying, wow, I landed ship. But like but in the most simple way. Yeah, in the most simple way. Yeah right, put that way. So this this album his beats and inspired me to all.

His ship is like straight gut or boom bap ship. So you was back on your house, back on my ship. Yeah yeah, no girlfriend, drama, free sea, moss boxing, fucking young holes nice see mass. Yeah, I just pills, do the row. I just do the pills that you could get. No, I do minus mixed with the damn I forgot no, no, not elderberry something else. Have you noticed a sugar taste, like it's like the jelly and the jar. Yeah, it's like yeaheah, I know you eat it. Yeah, yeah, I

had to. I just I can't eat that ship. I just do the pill. It's it's probably not as as beneficial, but black Sea most energy. Yeah that's all I mean. I'm like, we pop one of these boys a day, you know what I mean. Do you feel like you notice like your health getting better like you started? Yeah? Yeah, shot the doctor sebby Man. Yeah, we get you way more energy. You know, I used to be narkle, were just falling asleep every mother. Yeah. Yeah, I don't do

that ship no more. Yeah. Would you say like you're the healthiest you've been right now? Yeah, cause you look healthy. You look like you've lost I had. I had. I had a minor stroke too. I have to add on my all my ship. Yeah, I had stopped taking my medicine for like two months. Was the reason you had a stroke due to like lifestyle ship? Or was it

just something like you I had. I became vegan and basically stopped taking my medicine and try to do it natural, And that probably wouldn't That wasn't a good idea without consulting with the doctor. I feel like people go vegan but they don't understand it. There's like I didn't understand it. I was doing it because I was dating a girl that was doing it. I'm a fucking follower, no, no, no, but yeah, she was getting healthy from it, you know what I'm saying. So I tried to do it, but

I didn't know why I was doing it. You're just doing it to do it. Yeah. So I started getting on the road doing them shows. And then at nighttime, it's three, four o'clock in the morning, you high, you got the munchies. So all I know is if I go to just while I go to McDonalds, all I know is I can't eat no burger, but I could eat all the fries. Hell yeah, fries, hash frowns, yeah right, donuts,

all cars, all cars. So my friend over there who's switching the cameras as a vegetarian, but he's full of shit because all he does is he potato chips, French fries, and like literally what you're saying is all he eats. He just eats bean and cheese, burritos, nachos, Okay, fucking bags of Doritos, the purple ones, any type of chips. He's tried. So if you ever need a good snack. He'll be like, yoyo, you go try these chips. Those are guess but he eats like an absolute dumpster fire.

But you know he's vegetarian, so when he says it to the girls, it sounds better. The problem is he' still not getting no pussy. So oh so I think Cyrus should go full meat again? Do we think we should get himack to full meat. I've been trying to convince him I can't become a meditarian. Meditarian, bro, he'll

fuck up a whole baby embryo from a chicken. He's a bit just ordering cheese pieces and shit, yes, and knowing anybody gonna ask him for that, and then he'll go to He'll go to subway and get a foot long sandwich with just the veggies on it. Oh wow, I'm like, you're sick man. My thing is is if you could eat the aborted baby chicken, you could eat the chicken meat. What's up? What a egg is? It's the chicken embryo fuck up some chicken babies. Yeah, but

he won't fuck up the chicken meat. Yeah, that's a good ass. Damn aborted baby chickens. Where's their rights? Peter? Oh? I guess that they're probably alady. They are fighting for them. I'm sure they just they're probably throwing blood on the floor of like a Chick fil a right now somewhere. Kid, I know you was just sick, man, Yah, bizarre. We're gonna have a good fucking time, man, a great fucking he just became this sick guy all of a sudden, All of a sudden. It's been a long time, man,

It's been a long fucking time. Bro. And he features on the new album Oh Yeah, who gonna know? Uh got a song with Cool Keith. Oh shout out to cool kids, shout when if he comes back to the planet Earth for you shooting video for Cool keyths that guy. Yeah, cool keeps the guy. But I don't know where he's at right now. He's in Mars. He's Cool Keys getting cool Keith. I got a Nims for your life, Gorilla, Gorilla Nims was just here last week. Coney. He's from

Coney Island. You guys like Coney. He's been in the story a lot of times, you know about he almost signed with eminem. He had like an opportunity where he could have got on Shady, but you know, he had some ship happened in his last year. Yeah. Yeah, he went to prison for a minute. Yeah, so after my boy Nimbs. Man, I've been doing that do for a long time. But I love is his. He also has very disrespectful flame. He gotta be saying crazy ship on your album. Oh yeah, he's says probably. He was like

this feature, i' gonna say the Wildish Ship. Yeah, he said a COVID line that might be unacceptable. What do you say? Oh man? He said, what do you say? He said something about bitch you can get this. Gave my mama, gave my mama, my sister some COVID for Christmas. That's some city. Yeah. Then I got young Z on an album, young Z from the Outside of that's old school. Yeah yeah, I got there from a Jersey Nord. Yeah yeah, I remember that, uh Guilty Simpson from Detroit ship Man.

I had Guilty Simpson on my show in twenty ten. Man, I haven't heard that name in a long time. Yeah, yeah, that's a Detroit You know. It's crazy because Detroit there's so many like, uh genres of Detroit hip hop. So like when I was growing up, obviously, eminem D twelve was like Obi Trice, Obi Trice. But then there was Slum Village, there was Jay Dilla, there was Black Milk, there was Guilty Simpson, there was all those guys. Obviously Royce,

Yeah it was. And then now like Detroit's like low key, like top two or three hottest city and all of rap music. Everyone's getting signed out of Detroit. The street ship coming out of Detroit is crazy. Yeah, Doug Detroit right now. Baby Money, who just came up here, he just boy from street is probably my favorite. I love. I think baby Tron's got really funny like one lines his dad was signed a psychopath, which is funny. A

lot of people don't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean forty two Doug thoughs I would say he's so big that like, yeah, you gotta get him out of the underground. Yeah, but he's fucking hard bro. Yeah, for sure. His voice is insane. His tone is crazy grow with his daddy. Dad was a cheddar Boy, east Side cheddar Boy.

Shout out to the east Side Cheddar Boys to Q, I just checked out because I met little Blade Blade icewood Son out there and I just checked I actually just got around to finally listening to this shit his shit is cool, shot a little blade obviously. Pero Giovanni's going crazy. He's been going crazy for years. Yeah, No, Detroit is. Detroit's going up right now man. Yeah. Like QC just signed Vesso and they had signed Baby Money, So QC's tapping in heavy out. Yeah yeah, proud man,

We're going crazy man. Yeah. Well do you why do you think there was such a big divide in like the genres of Detroit hip hop because it would feel like you would listen to even like say eight to ten years ago. Uh, you would listen to like Doe Boys cash Out and they'd be so different than what was going on with like maybe a Black Milk or even like a Big Sean, you know what I mean. I mean, you know, I think it ain't really no

division because we all fucked with each other. It's just that it just I think the hip hop part pop first, So you know what I'm saying, That's all people really knew. Detroit four was like you said, Jay Dilla and uh Royce, Yeah, roy Slum and then D twelve and andem so then, but it was always the gangster ship that was there. It's just that it hadn't you know, it wasn't popping like it is now, but it's still was rock Bottom

Street lad or you know what I'm saying. May West Heliva Helva is a is you know, he was in a group back in the day. So, but they just didn't take off like the Oh because we got Detroit. We got a certain bounce, it's a certain flow pattern. If you know they are they all we all stay in a certain pocket, right, Yeah, that's real, that's real. I noticed that. And then there's I mean, some of the greatest rappers of all Timer and Royce was like

Jesus Christ. But we gotta, we gotta, we gotta branch that division together between the younger Do you feel like m has could be doing a better job of that, because I feel like when I talked to the because I'm friends with a lot of the young guys in Detroit, and I feel like they feel like such a disc connect from m as to where like a guy like Big Sean he just had that cipher at the end of his album where he put everybody on that motherfucker like Sean's been doing it with a lot of people.

Do you feel like m could maybe do a better job of maybe like tapping in with like the movement in Detroit right now, I'm gonna work on that. I think it's my job to do that. You know what I'm saying. M is a you know, very private person, you know what I'm saying, rightfully. So I just think,

you know, Destroit is so small. I just sometimes we forget how big of his story he is, you know what I'm saying, because I think about like a question like this, like like do you think every rapper from Brooklyn, no, jay Z No, But I do know give you a similar example. Okay, so let's rewind two thousand and nine eleven LA hip hop. At the time, there was Glasses Malone, there was a Nipsey hustle, there was all these guys

from LA that we're doing dope shit. But at the time, specifically like a guy like nip like on my show Heat like, there was like I wouldn't say animosity, but there was definitely some sort of feeling that like damn, like doctor dre fucking with us, like the OG's la acknowledging what we got going on. Now. Obviously, two years later, dre put his arm around Kendrick Lamar and the rest is history. So I just think that like I think sometimes, like you know, I think I think a lot of it.

I'm gonna be honest with you. Brought have been around all these of course, it was stars my whole life. I think through all these greats, doctor Dre's and Eminem, they all got they all got one of those middleman dudes, that type of man. Like for Dre it was Mike Lamb. You know what I'm saying. Mike Lamb probably brought half of more than half of the artists at Aftermath. So you know, great, great artists have gone through that level. Yeah,

a lot of them went through Mike Lynn. So I think, you know, definitely with Marshall, you know what I'm saying. I'm just I'm gonna tap a man a little bit more, you know what I'm saying, Because I know I know this, he's willing to listen and been a special. Right now, I feel like it's at an all time high. I just treat that he he's so busy into doing his own ship. You know, I get it that you gotta yo check out this. He's anomerate. Let me show you

baby money, you know what I'm saying. Because other than that, if me rychall Den. I don't really show him, you know what I'm saying. He's working so hard, you know it would probably won't be away. So I think the ogs and I'll take personal personally on this to bridge this gap. You know what I'm saying because I know all of them. I know the pss inside of the baby earlier. You know what I'm saying. I know all of Flint to Yeah, shout out to Rio Man, shout

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five thousand real quick. You know what's crazy is when they were like fucking five hundred dollars I should have bought was that like eight years ago? You could get a house out there for like nothing. It's crazy, but you don't want to house. They taking the furnace. It's crazy though, it's crazy. Well, you know, shout out to Danny Brown. Danny Brown had a song called a scrapper Die and the entire song is about Detroit and like the culture of like stripping houses of all the stuff.

And that's that's some real ship. Yeah. Yeah. My cousin brought a house and he had to have his homies stay in the house just for him to because he dropped one load off of his of his ship and he had to go back and get the other load. Right, he had to have some people stay in the house just to make sure the first low was still there. And when they're like taking the piping out because you can sell all that, oh yeah right off the rip that.

It's crazy. It's like the catalytic converters right now? Yeah? Oh yeah, are they doing that Detroit right now? Yeah? Yeah, you do that everywhere. Get you get a catalytic converter off somebody, it's straight money wherever you. I think there's like twelve hundred or some ship. There's no shortage of catalytic converters. The junkyards right now. I'll tell you that damn crack has is bringing in things and at a time,

my guy, that's for sure for sure. Yo. When you think back and you think of like your time with D twelve by the way Devil's Night. Yeah, fucking incredible project. I think I think of like v m A's I think of like MTV sh I just when I think of MTV, I think of like the Purple Hills video. Yeah, was a blurt. What was your craziest recording session during the D twelve days when you guys are working on those projects. Uh, craziest sessions? Oh man, it was like

midget strippers. It was a lot of work. Man, it's a lot of work. I think we had fun after the studio, but shit, you know, being in the studio in Man, sometimes you could You might get be in a booth for five six hours doing one verse over. He was such a perfectionist. Yeah, he was on your ass so like you had to. He had to make sure, Hey, look I'm on this mother with y'all. Y'all gotta make you get sick man. I mean I remember one time he got so sick with it. Man, I went home.

He he wanted me to do some ad libs over and uh, I guess he could waiting for me. So I came back the day he had did him for me. Did they stay on there? He sounded just like me. My voice and I was like, bro, you are sick. You are sick, man, that's crazy. It was his his writing process like we like nowadays. A lot of the newer artists they punch in so they just do line by line and they don't really write anything down, which I think there's like positives and negatives to that. Positives

you probably get a lot more done. I think negatively, like you maybe each line maybe don't count the way it should. Yeah, because you're coming up on the spot like what was was am? Always out of the notepad? Yeah, always out the notepad. Yeah, he feels like if he if he ain't feel like he feels like he's the total opposite to me. I don't write raps unless I'm going to the studio. It has to be a beat some of that ship I don't have. You don't have like notepads and ship. You asked me to spend a

sixteen right now, I couldn't. Yeah, because you don't have to beat playing and I don't even know nothing. I don't even know them old ship. You don't remember any of your old lyrics. No, I have to ask the other group members. Stays right before the chorus coming SI really yeah, yeah, yeah, all the time. So yeah, man, but him, he feels like he's wasting the engineer's time if he don't have anything prepared. It's his studio and

he's paying the engineer. Yeah yeah, but he felt like, you know what I'm he's just got the no pad ready to go. Yeah, you know. And I remember when some advice that he gave me that that I never followed. But I should have followed this ship, he said. Man, sometimes just go over the verses over and over again, like when you take it home and you said, ask yourself, did I say the dopest line right here? Could I?

Could I have said something better right here? And if you think you could have, you know what I'm saying, come and changing you know what I'm saying? Or but I never listened to I Like, then I'm going back to the hotel. But it's fucking frontil hours. Those those days on the road had to be crazy, oh man blur man, I bet yeah. Our ship was like, well, you know, the one the one good thing about me that balanced me out is I had a record out before D twelve called Attack of the Widows. So at

least I did get that underground experience. I struggled. I did all the shot and went to New York. It was fucking nowhere. It stayed slepping cars, eight dollar slics, pieces, struggled nineties and underground wrap life. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I did that ship. So you know, so when we signed with Marshall, I mean it was just like boom instant. You already kind of like I'm used to this ship anything that. But we got hotels were good. Some of

a couple of guys hadn't experienced that. They went straight from the private show. You in Proof like the most experienced the group prior I mean outside yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Proof Proof was signed to this label called Mari Mariic's Malone Clothings. He was signed I remember, yeah clothing Proof was signed to him, and I was signed the Federation

record shoutouta Rico, oh wow, and uh yeah. So we we was pre seasoned, but you know, so we had that underground experience, but you know when we signed A Shady Man, it was straight private jets. Was the formation of D twelve prior to Eminem being in the group or was it something that happened like at the same time. No, D twelve happened before Eminem. Uh you know, yeah, Eminem was in the group from the beginning. It was six

of us, you know what I'm saying. And no, it was supposed to be twelve, my bad supposedly be twelve, but we never could find twelve members to stick with us. So, you know, a lot of ways to come. There's a lot of people. Yeah, so we made six rappers with two personalities. Actually like that. Yeah, everybody's got two personalities. Yeah, twelve people, thirty dozen yep, there you go, there it is.

And and uh, it was a thirty dozen but uh, a rock band out of Maryland had the name, Oh, D twelve is dope, so we had to change the D twelve. Was there anybody who we may know of of any notoriety from the Detroit area that almost made the group that didn't l L l Z I L I almost was in D twelve. Yeah, you know, he was in it for a minute, but you know, I didn't know that, going off doing his own thing. I don't ever think he ever came a session, but he

definitely was was down with us. Damn, if l I'm lying, please don't strike me down, man. You know, if L Z I L I and eminem going back and forth on records would have been oh yeah, oh yeah, and he ended up in Slum Village. Yeah that was crazy too, Yeah yeah, because he he ended up in like a what was that like the third version of Slum Village. So many moving parts. Yeah, it was a lot, man. It was hard to keep up with, to be honest. Yeah, yeah,

it was. It was a lot going on. It's crazy too because you came from like, you know, obviously in Detroit there's this there was this other era of like horror core rap kind of right, you think of like Sham, King Gordy obviously, the Psychopath record Ship. That was this other, like this whole other thing going on out there at the same time that you kind of also were like

privy to as well. You personally obviously that movement like like obviously I want to get to the ICP beef, but I'm curious, like, was was there like a that scene of Detroit hip hop that was like more like really underground, Like I don't know if it's horror core, but you know what I mean. The ICP, the Sham, the King Gordy ship, you know, Yeah, they had like they had his own lane of his own you know what I'm saying, And it was very specific to that area.

And I'm gonna be honest with you, I really never knew nothing about that world until I started fucking with King Gordy. Because King Gordy was signed the FBT was the same production company Marshall was signed too, So that's how we met King Gordy. And then when I started sucking with him and we started doing our projects, he was already kind of in the in the Juggler world, so he kind of, you know, it introduced me to it. So it was nothing like I never that I sought after.

I kind of I grew up hip hop boombab of course, and it was like it's kind of a it's kind of a weird world, right, yeah, definitely, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all grown up now. Yeah I've yet to say, I yet to meet like a seventeen year old juggalo like now, like these days, you know, like you're all like, right, thirty seven right minimum, Right, it's still out here. Rocket. It's crazy though, because, like you know, I'll say this

about them, they really, uh revolutionized merch. Yeah, they revolutionized being independent. They did some things that a lot of people are practicing nowadays. I think that they helped show like guys like Tech nine the Way and Strange Music the way. You know. So, but when you guys had your back and forth by the way, some of the best skits ever ken from Connecticut. And I definitely was not a big ICP fan growing up. I thought that ship was terrible. But I've gone to their shows, like

I've had Fago fly by me in the crowd. But uh, how crazy did that? I ever get? Was that anything other than just being comedic or being like just some rap shit, some nineties rap beef shit, or was it ever like, oh no, no, he got serious? How serious did you get? It was serious? Like O sight, if we see them, they see us, it's whatever. And I think they ran in the marshall at a car shop or some ship like way back in the day. I forgot what happened, but yeah, it was, it was, it was.

It was serious, man. I remember one time we had to show with Saint Andrew and uh, I guess ICP had like a talent show something in the basement and when we was performing up top and we didn't know each other was gonna be there, and I just remember they fansy, they fans gave it away because they were not even. They were just giving us the meanest, like the dirtiest fucking looks. And I'm like, what the fuck?

Why why do you fucker keep looking at us? Every was like ICP in the basement, I'm like, oh, ship, what the fuck? But I think they end up squashing and beef that day and Trick Trick and vole Jay. Yeah, damn, that's crazy because that sounds like a hairy situation. Yeah, you guys are upstairs, they're downstairs in the middle of

a beach. Yeah, that could have gotten the first time we ever seen each other over the year, was your situation with Eachan did have anything to do with with ic P thing, because I know he was over there for those something separate, I know, but I think, you know, I think his thing was Marshall was showing him respect by saying he was a cause between each Tim and Nazi, and I don't know. I think I guess he took that disrespect or whatever, and which is a crazy thing

to take. Ye in retrospect, Ishan right now is probably playing that line for his kids and being like, look, Eminem said, shout out the man. Yeah, cool man for sure. Also kind of like, you know, kind of set a lot of that groundwork for the Icy. Yeah. He definitely definitely legend. It shows you to be he was in high school doing that ship selling out shows Wow. That's fucking crazy. Man. I got to ask you your opinion because I have a controversial opinion about this matter. Oh shit, okay,

controversial I am. I am a part of the crowd that believes that Machine Gun Kelly won the battle against Eminem. Now I'll give you my reasoning and then I want you to give me your thoughts on it. I feel like MGK should not have stood a chance, right, I feel like the fact that anybody even quite the fact it's even a question to me means MGK one now lyrically. Did Eminem rap better on kill Shot? Of course he did, But in my opinion, the better disc record was the

MGK diss record. And I feel like Eminem is probably the greatest MC of all time when it comes to putting words together, I mean, and so to me, it was like the fact that MGK, who's not known to get down like that, the fact we even anyone's even having a debate about it, means he won. Well, how

do you feel. I feel like when the guy is, you know, playing basketball and they playing the Chicago Bulls tonight and you gotta guard Jordan and you do all right against him and you shut him down, and he usually score fifty at night, but to night he scores thirty five. I think it's a win win for you. So I just think that I'm just glad. I think I'm just glad that MDK did all he did all right, man, he did good. Shit, he should he should appall hisself.

He made a good rap man. That's why I feel I'm like yo, man saying, but get out of here man before Yeah, he got in and out man. And I'm actually and I was very happy that that he pulled that out of m at this area's career, because I was like, Yo, Eminem just dropped that this record was it twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, Like this is amazing,

Like the fact that he was at least able. Like the fact Eminem responded was even if he got washed, it's like, bro, and responded to you, you're on the artwork to the song, like you know what I'm saying, Like to be honest, you don't think you had who MGK before he did that. You ain't think yeah, I'm listening to his previous shiitt. I mean I would say this about MGK. I am pretty I would say I'm like pretty friendly with Kels and I feel like he doesn't he ain't no sucking. I feel like I knew,

I knew MGK wasn't a sucker. I know he ain't a sucker. I know I know niggas that with Cleveland, and he's an amazing performer and lyrically he does his thing. And so when I heard the rap Devil Ship, I was like, oh, I mean, you know, okay, this is cool.

Like but I was like when I saw the artwork to kill Shot, I was like, it's about to get ugly, It's about to get But then I came away from kill Shots saying I don't know, you know, And to me, the fact I even did that was like okay, well, like like you said, it was like kind of like you know, it was a little bit more a little closer than people expected. And I think in that in that term in the rap game, it's like, yo, man, MGK, you kind of came away with this. What do you

think about Games is this. I thought it was a bit much. I was. I think Game is First of all, his album is dope. He's got a lot of great records on that. I think. I think Game with the eminem thing feel, it just feels it felt like a nice way to stir up some ship for an album coming out. I'm not sure. I just felt like I couldn't get past the damnin them voice. I know, I know Game can. I know he can rap better than that, you know what I'm saying. I know, I know he's

a He's a problem, you know what I'm saying. Of course as a battle rapper, you know what I'm saying. Or I got in the lyrics, I was waiting for the Okay, I feel like that was a little nice, little cute intro to me, it was like it's a ten minute song, right, and never got out of that though, So it's like if you stay he stayed in that.

He stayed in that Marshall's body for the whole ten minutes. Yeah, I think if you're going to make a ten minute record, like when we're gonna get a game, well, because what I'm thinking is he he had another one of those he had a when he was going against fifty, Game had a three hundred bars freestyle exactly, so we know I can do it. You heard that one. That shit was crazy, of course, and I was happening. God damn, that shit was crazy. He had the gu not ship.

So I mean, like, I think I wasn't the craziest fan of it. I think that the album was dope. I just think that like it was probably probably could have left that one off. And then I'm sure, I mean, I'm not sure he, like Game, is the type of guy who stands on his own like at all times, So I'm not sure he gives a fuck about what people think of it or his relationship with Eminem. He stopped caring about that a long time, you know what I mean. So yeah, I mean, so you weren't a

fan oh that song? Yeah? No, no, no, I think I think you could have did better. Yeah, well, stack Quot did better? What you say or statquot could have did better? What are you trying to say? Hey, Stack is a good friend of mine. It's a good friend of mine too. Man, are you saying Stack Cole help write the song? Yeah? I ain't saying that. Man, shout out the Game. I was listen. I have to say this because I was in the studio a lot with the Game while he's making this out. He was no

ghostwriters in there. I'll sell you that. But Stackquo is an amazing writer. Yeah former uh aftermath, I think about those Green Lantern mix tape days. Oh man, oh it's good times. Man. Yeah, I missed the mixtape era. That's my favorite Spring mixtapes back or is it still? No? It's it's over, man, It's over. DSP's ruined it because

now you have to get everything cleared. Oh real. Yeah, imagine if you put a mixtape up wrapping over twenty five, like when the Dogiunit takes her, they're wrapping over everyone's beat. It's like, so, what what about put out a mixtape? You can put it on that pick for a SoundCloud.

The problem is that people aren't there anymore. Oh okay it so it's like if you did that, you'd be it'd be kind of like you your best bet would be to put those on YouTube because the people are on YouTube and you could put up that kind of shit on YouTube. Okay, So like I would say YouTube because then if you put it out a free somebody gonna they're just gonna steal it and register the song for themselves, right would they? Yeah, they do that if I put out a song right now and for free.

But an actual song or a song of you is somethingout free, I'm just giving it out. If I ain't registered with you should definitely do that, I'm saying. But if you don't, because back in the day when when Future putting them mixtapes out, they wasn't registered correct, like songs, so people was taking the ship. Those are actual songs.

I'm thinking about traditional mixtapes where you're rapping over other people's beads, Like I'm thinking like how fifty was remixing every high record instrumentals like yeah, it's a headache now yeah, no,

no for sure. But now if you're putting out a free project, yeah you have to have on DSPs man, you gotta put distro kid too and core whatever you're doing, like you know, it'd be still like you said, if you ain't going to monetize, if someone else is gonna grab it off the Internet and they're gonna and they're gonna claim it. What do you think about rappers? Kid? Well, district Kid is not a label, so they can't sign the distric Kid. I think that if you're an established

rappers not not not, I'm not mad at it. Think about it. What is the thing? Distro Kid is a distribution platform. Uh. There's distribution companies where their business model is they take a percentage of whatever you upload. And then there's distribution companies like tom Core and distro Kid where you pay one time. It's up. So to me, if I'm an independent rapper and let's say I have ten songs on my album with ten producers, that can

get complicated taking care of everybody. If you sign up for that distro Kid, you just cut everybody in on the splits. Just be like, yo, what should sign up for district account? You're gonna get your percentage and then they do they handle the fucking grunt work for you. You know what I'm saying. Is there new ship on distroc Kid? Nope? Nope, nope on a label. I spoke too much. That's fine, trying to label? What does it go? Oh? They out a Nazyville though? Is it shift? Is it shift? Hey?

Texas this goo call this guy Alma will be ready around three thirty. Yeah, have you done the distal Kid ship or the Tune Course ship. Nope not Yeah, I think I put out one song through think about that. Ship is like one artists. It's very very easy to like take care of everybody. Yeah yeah, I get like

the little splits all the time from like collapses. Yes, if you do very if you do a feature for somebody and they're on distrial Kid, like, yo, what's your distal account, I'm going to cut you in like whatever the percent I get them all the time, that's that's that's that's dope. So that's why it's dope. And like I fuck with distro Kid. It's it's very like you hit upload and that and they handle the splits and

that's it. So you can't expect like to you know, you got to picture on playlist, you gotta do all that shit. But in terms of like the usability of it is great. Just hit upload, upload your artwork, boom, pay once and you're in there. Man, Yeah, I like it. Do you feel like all these independent labels be lying about marketing budgets too, distro Kid, Yeah, maybe gonna spend a hundred thousand of marketing you give me up front. It's the problem now, nowadays the problem is nowadays, what

is marketing exactly? So if they tell you they're going to spend one hundred thousand dollars on marketing, well, let me audit what that one hundred k went to, because they could say, well, we did one hundred thousand dollars in let's say ten thousand of it went to a YouTube buy. Yeah, okay, well did it go to a Google did it go to a Google buy, or did

it go to you buying fake views? And then you're pocketing the difference because that's what a lot of these motherfuckers are doing, is they'll tell artists that they're yeah, we did a Google ad buy on the video or a YouTube ad. Instead they dropped half of it on fake views and then keep the other half. It's a lot of fun you're going on, man, you just gotta

audit the fuck out all these motherfuckers. It's like someone tells you, oh, yeah, we spent this much and not recouited, Like yo, let me let me I need to see word exactly where that money went. Like, wait, you charged me ten thousand dollars to edit a song and make

it clean? What the fuck that was? That was happening with a good friend of mine who's a great rapper who has a bunch of giant red hair, where he was signed to a label and they were they were doing that kind of ship where they were like he'd be like, yo, how am I not recouped? And it'd be like, well, yo, you guys charge me X amount of dollars for this for this weed is recoupable weed? Yes, sir? What does that mean if they buy the label spin weed and you gotta pay you bet? Really? Yeah? That

sounds good? Oh g ship with the label back in the day, like when you guys are working on ship, like when you're on interscope, would they buy they buy weed? Oh yeah, hell yeah, all that come out of the b Yeah. Anything to keep you fusing doing these interviews. Wow, yeah, that's crazy. I saw Amsterdam? Oh oh yeah, Amsterdam? Right? Would the prostitutes be recoupable as well? In Amsterdam? I

played for my own horse. I'm just curious if you go to if you go to the Red Light District on a promo tour, can you invoice the label for the prostitutes? I think you can, at least back then you probably could have. Now nowadays, you can't. Let's be honest. Nowadays that's not happening. But oh no, I paid for oh one, yeah, yeah, have you done the new Amsterdam thing. I've never been like, yes, amsterdamn thing. Yeah, every time I went there, how was it? I want to get you.

I was about to give you a fake ass answer. The experience was cool. But I'm like, I'm like, I'm one of them dudes that like so like these girls are in the window and they like in these apartment buildings. When you walk up the stairs, they'll tell you what number they are, Like, what number you I'm at number sixteen. You know you're gonna knock on her door. She's like in a fucking closet basically with some license shit. So then you look and then she got like a thousand

Connors and her dresser and baby wipes over here. So you know, I gotta feel like I'm being loved, Like I got to one girlfriend I needed you almost have her come to the hotel. I need to look in your eyes. Looking at your soul doesn't for me. You know, I'm not gonna lie that surprises me that that's just based on like who I think you are off of the music. I would not expect that. I'd expect you to be like, yeah, bro, fucking ninety nine had eleven

prostitutes in one room in the red light district. Coke off my dick, off my ass in the side of my eyes. Anyway, Jesus, you got a chick blows coke up your eyes. No, No, that sounds that sounds sketch. I rap about it. It sounds like a fucking You watch the beginning of Snowfall season one, Oh yeah, where the chick dies because they or is it the guy that dies? The guy died because the girls were blowing

cocaine ups. So I did it a lot of times, but I never really busted doing this shit because it felt like it was it was fake, Like you know what I'm saying, that's fair. So it was hard for you to like reach full climax messing with women. You paid for it. I mean, I'm so bad for it. I feel like she was a slave with something. Yeah, because you see you see fifty condoms on the fucking

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So which tour was his Anger Management tour is the first one I'm out for sure, But uh man, this dude was he was doing He was doing everybody, So you know, he was so booked up that, you know what I'm saying, Like, I had to make it. I made an appointment. I think he had just did fifty. He was tattooed everybody. Everybody was tatting. Every day, somebody was getting tatted. So it was my time. He was gonna do my stomach and uh, he said, what do you want? Said, I want to I want to colloge

the Detroit. I want the buildings in the background, the Corney Islands liquor stores, the pit bulls to just grim its trades. Okay, So he drew it. He drew it on me first, and then I had to go perform, you know, because he said a big festival and ship overseas. So I went and performed, rocked the show, sweated it off, came back and I didn't know that the worst thing in the world you could do is get a tattooed with open sweat and pours. So before I asked him,

I said, yo, yo, is this tattoo gonna hurt? He said, no, man, you know you're good. You're good. So then when he started doing the ship, like everybody pulling their cameras out and shcause like I'm like that's a tough place too. I said, I thought you said this ship wasn't gonna hurt He said, yeah, it's not gonna hurt me. Dang, Yeah, So I had to. I had to sit there and pain bro that ship. That ship was crazy, man. But I was told they sell me. Once you start, you

can't stop. But that would be like you got to finish it, like torn with half a tattoo on your belly. They would have said that's bizarre. I couldn't get away with it. Yes, no, but I had to do it, man. They I would have been a pussy if I wouldn't finished it. Man, Yo, Back then when drugs are like safe to do, Like how crazy did the drug use get like at the peak? Like peaked the twelve days? Like was it crazy? Because like we always hear about eminem and like his issues. Obviously the shots to him

is he's been sober for a while. It got it got pretty crazy. Yeah, I mean ship, we all have fun, but I just remember getting crazy, like at the crazy spot like Amsterdam. You know it was like ecstasy was a coke because I like back then it was like peak like X days, right X days. Yeah, I won't really with the cocaine Viking in yeah, Viking anything, we can get your head of PM, fucking veil PM, whatever, Jesus rovertesting whatever. But no, man, Amsterdam was that spot

man shrooms? Shrooms, I don't forget about shrooms. Shrooms are still great. I didn't cancel the two shows off of shrooms. What happened? I couldn't do it? Which were these solo shows? Were these? So you just got And then one time I did some shrooms in Saint Louis and Marshall. Uh see me, he said. I was like five miles away from the venue and they was coming back from sound checking. They seen me walking on the side of the road and they stopped me and they said, Yo, where the

fuck is you going? They said. I said, I was going to join the gang off of shrooms. So yeah, I left the shrooms alone. Man. So when you canceled, yeah, I enjoyed shrooms. Yeah I got some gummies for if you want some. Yeah, okay, fuck it, I'm back. So before you, but when you when you when you canceled the shows, was it just because, like you were, you were having a pretty serious emotional moment. Was it a trip? You know, I'll lie. One with shrooms. One was edibles.

The worst edibles do me worse than shroom. Of course they do, is that they're the devil. And that's how eating weed is the worst ship anyone can do. If you eat I just think, if you eat too much weed, you're fucked, Like it's over for you. Like it's like a different effect from from smoking. It's totally different. So I guess so when you eat it, there's some compound that your body breaks it down and like activates like

a psychoactive chemical that's a lot more stronger than if controls. Yes, you know, I'm no. When you eat too much weed, man, fuck that ship is rough. It is like panicking, is I've puked? I've like, like, like you said, when you eat too much shrooms, you might trip or you might really like get into like a wormhole of your thoughts. But you you're not, like at least personally me. Yeah,

I feel like I've never been out of control. I feel like on edibles, there have been times where I felt like I couldn't move my legs, Like I went to a I went to a wouldn't Yeah, like I can't move I'm inaudible, right, I had a I had to cancel the show. And how I did it. The promoter was in It was in Flint. Oh my bad.

It was in Flint, and the promoter was in the lobby, and I called my role manager, oh love, and uh, all of all the guys that was with me and we all met in the hallway and I looked at him and I said, Yo, I'm not gonna be here to perform the night. And it was like what they said, the promoters in the lobby. I said, I no, man, I can't do this. I was like, oh, pull the car to the back of the hotel and I'm gonna go down the fucking steers so he can't see me

and leave. And everybody was like, what the fuck? But my boy, oh Love, he's crazy too, so so by him being crazy, he's seen it crazy in my eyes and said, okay, cool and he got me out of there. Man, Nah, shout out to my man, flake hollow at me. Man, I'm gonna do a free show for y'all. Makeup? Man? How long ago? Is this about? Ten years ago? Oh? Yeah, I'm sure he's already took the l He's already at the yelp. He ran off with the deposit at the

back door. Man, the shroom, I mean the edibles did it? Man? Are cool? Because like I think shroom's like if you like you said that was that shot that King Gordy did that? Actually he told me. See he makes he uh him and his partner. They they do their butter for like two weeks until it looks like tar mm hmm. And they used like the O G cush the powerful they can use. And I had took an edible before, like maybe a week before, and and I had went crazy on his edible. So then this time he said, Yo,

these ain't ain't that strong like that? They just regular, you know what I'm saying? You good? I said, you sure? Man? He said yeah. And then after hour Kitty and I looked at my seat, I thought you said that they wasn't that strong, and they just busted out laughing and thought this ship was so funny, like you fucking idiot the promoter and Flint didn't think it was funny. Man, please, man,

please forgive me, man, Oh my god, that shit is crazy. Man, Derek, you never canceled the podcast because he was saying, nah, so the highest I ever been in my life was at a yellow Olf for Ritz show. Oh my god, shout out the Ritz and I ate. I ate a whole brownie that I did. That's like, this was twenty fourteen, thirteen. I didn't know I was supposed to eat. It tastes so good, yeah, a little piece and it wasn't so

it wasn't even like a big, big brownie. It was like a like a little square yeah, and so uh, I ate it. And like an hour goes by. I'm like on Rich's bus. Everything's cool, We're chilling, and I don't feel nothing. So He's like, yoa, I'm about to go on stage, so follow mym like, gad, I'm gonna watch it from the crowd or whatever. Cool. So as soon as he starts performing, it hits me like a fucking semi truck. I could not move my legs. Damn.

I felt like I was planted into the ground like I not only that every Like, have you ever been so high that you felt like your senses were heightened? Yeah? For sure. So I'm in this concert. It's probably eight hundred people there, and I felt like I could hear everybody, no matter how far they were. I could like hone in on somebody at the bar like two hundred feet away from me in the middle of a concert, and

hear exactly what they were saying. And then I look on stage and next to Riz's ugly ass is a fucking cartoon Garfield cat with fucking dollar signs like slot machines, dollar signs like going and stopping. And I'm just I grabbed my boy and I'm just like, Brian needs you to carry me out to the backstage. So my my best friend Gio had he like picks me up like a and I'm mind, this is my hometown. People know who I am. So I get carried like a baby to the couch on the side of the stage. Bro.

And like, for some reason, every time I heavily do too much when it comes to shrooms or weed edibles, the ship that would that would happen to somebody who's fucked up happens in front of me. Like dude, this Native American dude with a whole fucking headdress like legit. And you know how natives love fucking like rits and yellow wolf and like that. You know that that world around Yeah, they do, God, they do, shout out. They got livers on that No so this Native American dude.

I'm on the curb right outside of the doors Club Red and Tempee and I'm like hunched over the curb like I just got him puke and everywhere, this fucking Native American dude with feathers your bootleg cav. I look up. I said, shit, Wow, I look at my boy g. I said, and mind you. Not the best thing to say, but I was like, Yo, is this Indian motherfucker real? And he was like, yeah, I'm real. What do you mean. I was like, bro, I'm tripping balls right now? What's up? Right?

Then the Indian dude standing here shout out to Yellow Road manager at the time. His name is Brooklyn. He was a very violent guy. They dragged some fucking dude from the crowd out there, beating the ship out of him, like three feet in front of me. I start throwing up while the Indian guy's there, while this guy's getting beat up. It's all happening at the fucking same time. I'm fucked. Rich is there laughing, smoking a cigarette. It's just the worst. It was one of the worst nights

of my life. Damn. And then I ate an edible two months ago, my new house. First time I had edibles in like two years. I was like, you know, no, no, no, maybe like a year and I had, uh, grit, Bro, I'm curled up on the couch. Bro. My wife and her friend are upstairs dying because I am curled up on the couch freaking the fuck out. I'm trying to find something to put on TV that I'll like put my mind at ease. First I try Family Guy and I'm like nah. Then I just put on like Ocean Noises.

Oh my god, he was there. I went in the bathroom and chucked everywhere. Something about eating too much edible is always puked. Oh you always get sick. I eat up with storm Man, yeah, or that, or you'll just be like when I when I hit dabs, that's when I eat. When I like smoking dap action. Bronson smoked me under a fucking whiskeyly for fucking put me in light. So don't don't do what dad with him your half.

He's going to intentionally try to get you out of That's what actually Bronson did early dab days too, So this was like before everyone knew about dabbing like that. He was like, oh, you haven't dabbed he's like, so he gives me one. He's like, no, no, you take a bit, kid, it's not that serious. Take a big So I took a big case. Exactly terrible. Right. So he's like, no, no, now you got to try a flavor. I got this whole thing on film. It's great. He's like, no, no,

now you gotta try a flavor. So I hit it again, three hits in a row. I do. Oh. It was Mac Miller Action Bronson a chance to rap on tour, and that was the one of the I was fucking high out of my brainstand bro, watching Mac Miller on stage. Bro, I was just like, this is That was probably the third highest I've ever been. Shout out to the Action Bronson. Man, who who are you a fan of? Man? Like what artists? Right now? Are you really like? Just kudos? He's the city.

No no, no, in general period ship ship Damn. I gotta think about it, oh, man, hold on, fan though, I like, yeah, I don't want to sound typical. I don't think people would expect you to. Yeah, yeah, I like him. I like, uh, damn, I know I'm about the fuck his name, but I'm gonna try to get it right. The kid that be throwing shows in his backyard. Russell. I was just at his house last weekend, Okay, I went. It was amazing. I met his mom, his dad was cooking.

I've known the Russell for about a year and a half. But how is this setup? Is this? It's literally the how is that? His mom, him and his dad and his I think I don't know if his sisters or not. But the house he grew up in, he built up benu in the backyard, bleachers on each side, and then there's like a pergola and two hundred people in the backyard rocking. His dad's making barbecue. It was amazing. It

was like one of the most like inspirational. I was just like, this is fucking this is crazy, right, And he's very like when motherfuckers say they're independent, now you ain't independent. He's independent, Like he's really it's him. It's it's like his team is super small. I mean I went into his office and it's like, again, this is the house he grew up in. He's got his office and he's got a whiteboard just with everything playing the what Instagram post are going up for the day, Like

it's it's crazy. It's inspiring. Russell's dope super and could rap his ass off right shout out to him, he'd be saying some ill shit. I like Larry June too. Larry June is fire, Larry June is doing his thing, running it up right now. When you see these whack rapper lists, I know you talked about the Gilly thing before, but when you see these lists, you're always on the list. How do you genuinely feel about that? Oh, that's that's why.

That's basically why he got a gun came out. You know what I'm saying, That's why I have to get back in my bag. You know what I'm saying. I don't, I don't. I don't like it, you know what I'm saying, Like I think I'm a comedian rapper, but you know, I think it goes back to the just just saying anything, even if it ain't it on rhyme or it's just crazy or just playing that role. So like you were playing it like I think with people what you said earlier,

like you were legitimately playing a character. And well yeah yeah, so yeah, So that's that's why I'm here to change it. That's why I'm literally here right now, in your face. So you're like, yo, I'm tired of these lists. So outside of your guy with the six Cats and the four Dogs and the Children a Fall and that and the Sony Acid that was god damn. That was also a motivating factor for you to get back in your back,

like I'm tired of this ship. Yeah for sure, for sure. Yeah, I think I didn't put too much work in a lot of people don't know. I am a battle rapper. I started off from the hip hop shop. That's why I met Marshall. If I was a whack rapper, they would have never put me in D twelve because D twelve was a hand picked click of kill battle rappers. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so you know, I think, you know, once we got in the industry, we kind of like had to find our way, you

know what I'm saying. Like all that ship was kind of like an accident. Even a shower cap started off as a joke and then it just became they just stuck that ship with me, I mean, and it worked. Yeah, and it worked, and I'm grateful for it. But now it's time to show motherfuckers that I you know, I could rap man. He can't put me on a fucking list with you know, soaked shakra or or snow or which snow? You know snow? They informer snow? No, you're

not not snow from a Texas uh informer informa that snow. Yeah. I don't even I don't even he. I don't think he's a rapper. I think they were just high. Who's your top three? Bizarre? Who's your top your top three worst rappers of all time? My top three worst rappers of all the time? Oh god, let me think about that. Oh, I'm gonna I'll give you mine. Yeah to me. Playboy Cardi fucking god awful. I don't get it. Saw him live.

It sounded like he was having a fucking seance on stage, was going on his fans are crazy and being the fucking fuck you. Playboy Cardi is definitely taking the cake for me. I think technically speaking, I mean I enjoyed Silk, the Shockers and music vastly. But when you go back and listen now, you're like, oh, that was interesting, and then you got to start thinking about guys like Little zand damn Little is terrible, oh man, or just you

just don't understand him. No, no, no, I get the like he had one record that was dope, but his ship sucks. Stack Quo will tell you his ship sucks and he was sign will tell you damn his ship was. Like he he just never was focused enough to like make musical priorities. So the music that I outside of that skittle song, like, I just thought he was just a god off our. Damn. I'm trying to think of a god off man. Yah. You think anybody, I'm trying to think of somebody. What about anybody from like a

rapper's crew. I'm trying to think who was a part of Q who really horrible? Horrible? Okay put the horrible tag on proz Okay, ghetto respect, Yeah, of disrespect. Though I know he probably gonna come after me. I don't want to battle. There was the who was the guy who was NAS's bodyguard? Big hulk, big horse, Yeah, bodyguard, he's a horse? Is uh? Was there someone in murdering? I don't know. You know what though, there was some shitty rappers back in the day, man, there were some

bad Yeah. I think we I think I think so the Shaker suffices for my nineties. You're gonna go with the shocker like that. I had a no limit chain too, so it hurts me. Oh, I don't know, man. It was for Mystical, the chain was for no the chain was for Ghetto Dope. That was Hey Shots to master P. Yeah, not the best rapper I think, classic album though, love gets Yeah, yeah, charge it to the game, great out. Yeah, I mean, listen is whack. I'm just saying he was

fucking Maya. So he was fucking Maya in ninety nine. So yeah, shot No, I said it, so you can't say it, but yeah, yeah, damn you can see it. Yeah, so who can you say? Anybody from Psychopath Records? It was just terrible. How about the whole fucking label? I said, Jesus Christ the Cavs on the road, right, Jesus. You know what, though, I'm gonna be honest, I didn't listen

to a lot of that ship. My cousins were into that ship, so maybe I just am not versed enough, but I know some of that ship, Like my cousin would be listening to like a Blazia Dead Homie album or something, and it just sounded like noise, like bad noise, Like it sounded like if my dad tried to rap type ship you know, oh my god. Never was the other guy who was like the native dude with like the braids. Any yeah, just terrible, just terrible. Twisted is

cool right there, all right, Twist is cool. But i CP had some cool ship, you know, great MALINKA was like the only album I think I've ever really listened to, and it was like I was all right, but yeah, now those are pretty much like everyone who wasn't Twisted or ICP on Psychopath Records. We could probably let me google the worst fifty rappers. There's a list that just came out. It is it just went viral. I just saw it. A new list. Oh this is here. It

is worst rappers list. So Little Yachti's on it. Yeah, litis not garbage. I love Little YACHTI. Silk the Shockers number one I'm opening Oh yeah, so I'm opening it right now, Little YACHTI. Number two. That's fucking Cap Master P three OJ the juice Man, Cap bullshit, little Flip Cap. Little Flick could wrap his ass off, Little Pump. There's an argument to be made, Smoke Purp, argument to be made six ' nine. Um, I would say he's terrible. He made some bangers. Diddy's on here walk a flock

of that's bullshit. Coiler Ray Birdman, Birdman has too much music that he's rapping on that I actually they're really enjoy Vanilla Ice Kid Boo God awful rapper. He's the guy who pretended like he was cloned to some clout Cloud era rap. Shit. It's terrible Yeat. You know what what the worst rapper of all time might be Yeats. This new kid Yeats. His ship is horrible, but the kids love him, so maybe I'm old ben Zeno Benzino. How do we not think of him? I never listened

to his music, nobody did. You can't clause to fire, blue Face Cardi, Little Big Nick Cannon, Oh no, Nick Cannon, that's my dog man. I can't say no comedy. Yeah, you won't get him a wild Chicks see Nick Cannoning Ching had some bangers though, Saint Lunatics, Aggygyzella maybe designer maybe no designer anyway, he's not not why Yeah he all right? I ain't gonna put him in a way.

French Montana ain't twins, Mike Jones, Little Uzy, flow Rider, slash people this listen this list, don't know what they're talking about. Pete Pablo Okay, Gucci Maine, relax exactly, Tony Yeo, relax. I love thoughts of a predicated film. Tom McDonald, he's the white guy, the Maga rapper. I'll sign, I'll go sign that. Actually, there's a lot of weird like Maga

rap going on right now. That's probably the worst shit ever, So I would I would just like to continue my beef with these guys and say what Adam Calhoun and all those guys are the worst rappers of all time, the absolute worst. I see come back come at me in the comments. Bro fucking weirdos. Little b the bass guy who can't disrespect the base guy, he'll put he'll put a curse on us. Gotta gutda Gtta gutda from from Young Money was actually not a bad rapper. I

would say so. I mean literally, I would say so. The Shakers is you're not on this list, Damn. I mighta step my game up a little bit. The album works off the Liz. They got Playboy Cardio on here, Yeah, Playboy Cardi. They got Nelly on here, Yeah, Nelly's incredible. Relax Iggy, I get it. You can't put Future on this list. Future is one of the best rappers of all time in my opinion. Yeah, somebody's just made up

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be doing anything else? Um? Yeah yeah, probably over start towing first of next year, working on He Got a Gun two album, ship Man we Ground. I'm working on a cooking show right now. Oh, what's your go to dish. Uh macaroni and cheese, Your mac and cheese gotta be got only fan coming out to you? Fucking on there? Uh fucking I'm a lonely man with an only fan, so you're gonna be on there beating off. I'm a lonely man with the only fan. I don't understand. Let's

listen to that cliche. I'm a lonely man. It don't make sense. Subscribe, so you subscribe to yourself? Have you how many think about doing porn? You thought about it? I thought about it? Has there been any official after shot? Man? I don't, don't you think so? Yeah? I won't. I don't't let you see in this body. Yeah, you just put it behind the paywall. Go crazy, only wear a mask and ship right. Yeah, but you also have tattoos to be like, look at this, that's bizarre. I know now.

Someone else got the same tattoo for mister Cartoon in fucking two thousand and one. That's not me, man, it looks like Walter Ego. You know these rappers do it. It wasn't me. Hey, do you remember the energy when like fifty first came on to Shady Like oh yeah, like did did you guys know that was coming down the pipeline. Did y'all know that M was just a fan or like like no, no, no, no, uh, fifty security was from the Queens. No, no, all M Security was from Queens. So they kind of put us up

on fifty with the mixtapes and ship. So it kind of like gradually grew on him, you know what I'm saying. So you know, you know he became a fan. But yeah, when he he definitely changed shit, you know what I'm saying. That had to be like had to be security. Yeah.

Well when I tell you, like I always tell people, like, I don't know, I think Peak Snoop Dogg in Peak fifty years like the two big things I've ever seen like hip hop ever, Yeah, like Doggy style Snoop get Richard I trying fifty Yeah, pandemonium just oh yeah, insane. That was that was it. That was it. That was

insane time, man. Yeah. It was like I mean, and then everybody and then just amming fifty going at every fucking buddy's neck, going at Murder, inc. Going at Jermaine Duprie, going and fucking going at every were you just in like during that time? Were you just like openly inheriting every beef just because fuck it. Oh yeah, for sure, every yeah, yeah, we had to be on point. But the proofs security. I'm assuming the murder Ink Ship probably

got the most serious out of all that ship. All of it was serious, but yeah it was well the Moby beef wasn't serious. That might have been a serious one of all beef. No, I could. I just feel like that the other murder Ink ship ship was getting crazy. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, Shanty cost some ship raising that thing man that wow. Man, the sideburn line, Oh my god, the uh Sugar because Sugar was with them?

Oh man, was was serious? It had They've gotten interesting, Yeah, but produced some amazing hip hop, a lot of stuff that didn't even make it to any albums, all on mixtapes. All the mixtape ship was so crazy, bring the mixtapes back, man. That's like when he re released what was the twenty anniversary we just did? Was it for eminem Show? Yeah? Nah? Now before that he did like an eminem Show re released and he re released one of the mixtape records

that was out forever but it's on DSPs. Now was so fucking excited he just did the curtain call too and put out some other ship. But yeah, you know, well listen, man up, Sarre. I appreciate you pulling up brons having man. I look forward to not subscribing to your only fans. Oh man, I got two customers so far and the album people can go online and stream it. Please go online and get it right now. Just drop the video call she works the night shift. Was that

the one you were just playing? Yeah? Yeah, some pretty wild ship in there? Yeah, man, you know what's the what's the wildest freaky tale in that song that you can share with us here? Oh? I had a girl come out here from Russia. She told me to make sure that I'm not ten of my black friends. She wanted to get listen to the song. Well, guess what he doesn't remember. You know what, he also doesn't remember his lyrics. The girl from Russia wanted you to run

a train on her with ten of her black friends. Yeah, we had to oblige. Was there going to be a was there a guy there watching like? Was there a cuck situation going on? Oh man? Just say this man one of my homies tried to get in, but he's Asian and white and he was turned down. That's interesting, was he there? This guy right here, this guy is fucking rocks. I want to party in Detroit with him? Man, Oh yeah, Man, you gotta come party with him. Man hole in the wall bar. Yeah. We got to take

you to the food exchange. Man, you want some food. I'll be back then. Take you to Southwest. Man. That's where he's from. That's where the uh Chicanos is at. Man. Yeah, nice Southwest there it is, man, bizarre. Appreciate you pulling up bro. All right, man, appreciate you. Fuck it. Good ship