#210 - P-Lo

like even though it was hot a ship. Yeah, I mean yeah, like, I mean like I wear like a letterman jacket when it was like one hundred and four a summer gym Jesus oh I saw that. Yeah, this was like recently. Yeah, but you know we sweating like a horn church. Yeah. Yeah. But you can't. You can't compromise the drip. Never never compromised. You know what Pilo said, or not Pilo, you're a pilow. What fucking pimps said? Uh? TV ain't got no temperature during the big pimpot video

shoot because he had the big first for sure. That's the TV ain't got no temperature, man. Yeah, that's that's the inspo. You know what I'm saying. He just wanted to you know fully fully sauce it down. Yeah on this album. Uh, too Short says he could teach a girl how to make money with her pea hole. Yes, yep, that'll do it. Yeah, that'll soun out the too short man. Yeah, shouts out the too short I'm not sure that pe holes technically what makes the money. I don't know the

unatomy that we clear. Yeah, like what is it like above or you get that, you get that too short verse back, You're like, yes, this right on, No, this is right. This is what I wanted. This is exactly what I wanted. That's exactly what I wanted. I need. Yeah, like I needed him to talk that greasy ass ship. He did. Yeah, he said, uh, he said shake that. He said shake that crack, shake that ass. Yeah, that

that crack. Yes, he says, shake your ask, shake your ass crack, not even not even the cheeks, the crack, the crack. How do you shake the crack? Mm hmm. But I think it's it's it's like the crack and then everything is surrounding the crack. That's shake that's fair. Track the crack and shout out to crack. Brian Sampson smoked it in the eighties and he's all right, he's all right, he's decent, he's all right. On this album you have, is it Michael Snead? Michael Sneed, He's on

a lot of records. At first, I thought it was you just trying to sing. I was like, is this like is aka? No? No, No, Michael Sneed. He's our side of Oakland. Super talented. Yeah, I think it's up and coming. I think I think he's gotten next up to you know what I'm saying. He's super dope. And just like the chemistry, chemistry we have. We we like every time we would just get in the studio, we'd write some like dope crazy, some crazy ship right, and

and that's ended up what happened. And like I went up to the Bay for like two weeks or like a week or two, and he was just like pulling up to the studio, and you know, whether it was like him on the hook or whether he was just like in there vibing, like we would just always come up with something super dope, super unique, and yeah, I think he's super well, he's super dope. Yeah. I mean he's got a crazy voice, that's for sure. Yea very unique, very unique you know, And that's I think that's what

what the baby brings. We bring something unique. Every time you have an album full of slappers, my man, thank you, thank you a lot of slaps. Thank you, thank you, thank you, uh for you? Like, do you feel like, where does PLO go from here? Because I know when I'm an give for PLO when the Fress play, I'm getting some slaps, I'm getting some fucking feel good, some vibes, some fun, good time, good times. Like I guess, is there gonna be like a point in time where you

like switch that ship up at all? Yeah? I think maybe like dibble and dabble a little. Yeah, yeah, I think. I think. I mean, if you, if you really like go deep into the album, there is some there is some. There is some no, no, no, there's some vibes on there that are like really like, oh ship, this ship

is kind of this is some cool ship. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, but like you know, like I like to stay consistent with with with what you know, with what resonates with me and yeah, and the people who love you and the people who love me and like, and that's really what I do, man. I like fucking having a good time of like partying, I like fucking around and just living living a good living, a good life.

But also you know, life happens throughout throughout those times, and that's where those other records kind of come in and do their things. So it's like, well, whatever is like, whatever my life is happening is a and that's what the music. That's the music I'm gonna make. You have l Russell on the album. We talked a bit off the year about l Russell. I just was in Ballejo at his house, which is freaking crazy, at a concert in his house. Insane. Now a lot of people know

where he lives. Yeah, interesting, yeah, but no, but but in a good way. But like it was like really inspiring to see like just what he's built and like how he's like really it's like a really like his dad's there cooking, his mom's there, his sister's helping out, Like it's like a real family operation. It's like just real dope. Like obviously you know he's been doing this thing for a couple of years. But just talk about Larrussell.

Obviously you know you're having him on that record. It's was a big look for him at the time, you know, what I mean, Like it's a huge that songs fires fuck again, it's crazy. Yeah yeah, I mean, like dude, what he's doing is like what I think a lot of people like like forget what it what it is

really about, you know what I'm saying. Like music is really supposed to like really like bring people together, and like you know what I'm saying, And it's like a community, and like what he's doing over there is like he's really building that community and really having people be a part of it. And I think that's that's what's like a lot of ship is like music is just like missing that, right, you know. And I think he's like really showing everyone like what what what that means? And

he's all doing it himself. And like we were just talking about, like man, he if he's got ten people rocking with him, he's gonna like turn into hundred. Yeah, Like he's just he's got it, you know what I'm saying. He's gonna he's gonna figure it out. And also like very reminiscent of like Bay Area independent independent roots, like I think of the Bay when I was growing up. I think the mother selling seed. He's out of the

trunk forty. Like yeah, like he's like that's he's he's that in this age, in this in this timeframe, and it's just it's dope to see it's it's just dope to see him continue to grow and and the way in the way he's just like, bro, he's like ripping beats like every day. Yeah, like every day, every day he's ripping something. And it's not even like their like he's bro. He's got a schedule in his like office that's like five he posts six things a day and

it's like this one's this, this, It's it's crazy. It's like it's really like militant how like put together and organize his operation is man, That's that's that's the real Bay Area. That's that real. You know what I'm saying, organizing and really really getting it done and being independent, and you know, like I love what he's doing, and you know what I'm saying, I come in what he's doing and I really hope he can reach all the

heights he wants to reach. Talk about Uh, obviously, Stunner is the I feel like, I mean, I think I saw a comparison of like a Stevie wonder Art and like your your ship side by side. But the artwork is so fired because it just reminds me of something like I would want to buy on vinyl and hold yeah, like yeah that was that was really the the like the inspo was that was that ce we wonder like we wanted to have something like reminiscent of like a

vinyl like seventies funky. Yeah. Just I was like, damn, I want to hold this yeah, yeah like that That's really what was the like the real like inspo behind it. We want to do something like funky, vibrant, and that's what and that's what, like I think what the music also like represents. It's like it's it's the music vibrant,

it's colorful, and it's just like that. It sounds like it sounds like how it sounds like the cover looks yeah, it's and and the title feels like an album called It's done it Yeah you know what I'm saying, you know, trying to put it all together, trying to think one plus one. Egal Too said, man, no, it's great, great great artwork. Orange vinyls maybe or yeah, come on, the Powers that be, you're going to be vinyls coming YEA limited editional fifty piece. Yeah, yeah, come on, limited edition.

That's no that that's that's that's the route. You know what I loved about you The last time you came, you brought uh you brought me a hat, right, but you brought me like the ones you just give away. You didn't bring me the New Era and you were like, Yo, next time I see you, I'm gonna bring you the new Era one. And I was like, that'd be sweet because my big head can't fit in this. And I've seen you seven times since then, so yeah, what what's the what's theest hat? You were seven and a half?

I got a dome? Oh yeah, I wish seven and a half. Look me and you boke at Noggin. So yeah, we were ahead of our class. We are dome thugs in harmony dom thugs. And you know, did you ever get made photo for having a fucking dome? Ski show that dome thugs and harmony ahead of my class? You know, I got I got a lot on my brain, bro my head, you know, like a fucking I don't know you got you got that? You got that head. Something's going on up there. Yeah. I think my parents fucked

me up when I was a kid or something. Yeah, like my head never reformed after I was born, you know, like yeah, yeah, you you definitely got a like newborn babyhead. You know, it's like a little sot. Why do you think I always I still got my soft spot up here. It's like a little It's why I always wear a hat. Bro. No, No, I mean, like, you know, you always wear a hat too. But you know, I'm you know, I'm cool. I'm cool my head. You gotta fucking you got something going on there.

I gotta I got office, I got a noging. You know. I definitely had my class, you know, But so what's up with my fucking hat? Just like you have me on the Morton's dinner from three years ago when we when we we m hm hmmmm mm people from the Beto pay their beats? Oh god, no, bro. Every time I'm like, bro, it's good, You're like, oh next week, I'm like, all right, okay, okay, you wore that stupid ass shirt. Oh man. You know I actually like that

Warriors team. That's that's a Warriors team. I can appreciate. I can appreciate that team. It's this new team. I got problems. Why you got the problems with us. It's really more with the KD era of the situation. But what about this year? This year, I can't hate on I like, I like Kaminga, I like I like Moody, I like what happened with the Suns, though, don't worry about it. What happened with those guys I actually kind of know. Hmmm, Oh okay, so spelled. This is the

boot leg podcast. So from what I heard from reliable sources, about as reliable as they can get. Hmmm, Chris Paul lost the locker room man in the last like two games.

He wasn't talking to those teammates. Mmmm. After the first half of Game six, I guess he like shut down, wasn't talking to nobody, and like everybody kind of like nobody was That's what I heard, and like everyone was like looking for him for like leadership, but at the end of the day was like that's your court general, and like he's being like a spoiled little like because someone had told him going into halftime on Game six, like hey, they're they're targeting you because they were targeting

him on defense, Like yo, like, sit down, we got that's why we got, you know, Aaron Holliday or whatever whatever. He just shut down and didn't talk to nobody, and then Game seven happened and we got fucking knocked. Yeah no, that was crazy. I was hoping we I honestly was hoping. I was hoping we're gonna get rid of Chris Paul, to be honest, But he's Oh he's still there. Oh yeah, I mean listen, one of the greatest of all time. But I don't know, dude, Devin Booker's on the cover.

Two k that's my championship. Goddamn yeah, no, that that's that's nice. I don't And I was thinking to myself. I was thinking to myself, like, why is he on the cover? When? When? When? When? Who on the cover? Show Steph Curry. Bro, He's been on the cover multiple times. What do you mean how many times they're trying to put new guys on the cover. It's not like they're gonna put yel Kic on the cover. Nobody's gonna buy fucking someone video game with seven foot of me on

the fucking cover. No one's gonna buy. That's why he doesn't even have a fucking sneaker deal. Two time MVP, no shoe deal. Look at how he looks. He looks like me, bro. I could bet he like he's like, he looks like he smells like a crazy like a subway sandwich. Do you think he's out you though, he gotta be bro? You think so he gotta be bro. He's he's got, you think in like in his home country, he's like pulling like tractors and running ship. Do you

think the women look like him in his own country? No? They probably what they're probably out there, you know what he's from Serbia. Maybe have you been over there? No, where's the wildest, like a country you've been to because of your music obviously probably like Japan, Japan was pretty cool. Japan was pretty interesting. I've heard about some establishments over there there in nice m Yeah, Japan's Japan gets pretty

It gets pretty loose out there. You're like, yeah, like like people get so drunk, but they're not too loose. Not too loose people just people are People get so drunk and they just like sleep in the street and nobody touches them. Nobody. It's kind of like where you're from, except for yeah, no sleep in the street anyway. You know, Like, Bro, Literally I'm in San Francisco, by the way, you're from You're not from San Francisco, No, But like literally people

be like full business suits. Bro, just fucked up on the street on the street, just like ripped, and nobody touches them. They they're able to like wake up and just be like all right. But it's insane. Like you'll see like just piles of people just like sleep strangers. Like, Bro, it's crazy. Bro, it's insane. I need to go to Japan. Bro. It gets so loose out there and they're like like six am. You could just go hit a little Raman spot.

I just want to I want to rent. I want to rent the uh Mario Kart little Reynolds you could drive around Tokyo. Yeah. No, those you have to get. Somebody did it. Someone's like you got to get a license. There's like a certain license you got to get like a like at like right when you get there. I want to go to like the bootleg area of Japan. Yeah. I heard they got like high level fake shoes over there, like high level like you couldn't be able to tell type ship you know, you know what I mean? Do

you know if that's all you get down? You know, I mean, I'm saying that's how I get down saying I wouldn't have checking, it's just my checking it up. My name is bout leg Cav. I used to you are I used to get packages caught up in customs in high school when I was fucking selling fake shit to people on eBay? Yes? Is that how you got your name Blue Legev? Yes? Wow. A lot of a lot of burn CDs, mixtapes, a lot of uh, fake shoes,

fake purses, pirated movies, all kind of movies, not those ones. Actually, I used to sell passwords though I'd get like the Brassers pass So oh man, that's that sounds like a win. Yeah, I'm you know, sometimes you might hit up Reddit and well I don't know if I read it, but I know reddits where you get all the only fans. Right. But oh, this guy I've heard. Yeah, that's what I've heard. Hey, what is bule cav? We got to stop the interview to tell you what our good friends at my bookie

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you know gone uhould be fired. I dibble and dabble, you know, when when it's time to when it's time to you uninstall read it from your phone because if you because it's fucked up, if like someone accidentally like you know, I mean, yeah, I just try not to let people go through my phone. That's fair, you know what I'm saying. I'm pretty pretty pretty pretty particular about your phone. Yeah you know, you don't you don't you

know what you could find. So if you're in relationship with a girl, is she allowed to have your password? I no, I don't believe that. I don't believe in that. I really don't. Like I feel like because like if you don't trust me, why are we even doing this? Why are we doing this? And like yeah, like we we we should be able to like some everyone deserves

private yeah, every everyone's deserves something that's theirs. Yeah yeah, like yeah, like I know, like yeah, like if if we don't trust each other, then what are we doing? What are we doing? I just had my girl uh recently she uh somehow I ended up on she didn't have a Twitter account, So my Twitter's been fucked up for a while. I mean since the inception. I just follow all the porn bitches it's terrible, and then do a little She just scored went through she was like, wyofe, no, no,

no, no no, no, I'm not that stupid. I ain't liking nothing crazy because you know, everyone can see what she's like on Twitter. She's like, why is everybody on Twitter that you follow a porn star? And I was like, I don't know, Maude, I've had that Twitter for a long time and ship I barely am on there. Yeah no, no, man, Twitter, I mean you down You just gotta go on Twitter. Twitter's wild. No, you could just go on Twitter and

just whatever you want is on there. Yeah, you could just you know, you go buzz down down there anywhere? Have you supported any young ladies by subscribing to the OFS? That's not really my that's not really my swag. You just get it on Reddit for free. Uh. I mean, you know, who knows? I don't know. I don't know. I'm not I'm not into self incrimination. Hey, So San Francisco's crazy place. I had a friend who was just out there. We've talked about the bipping thing before on

the show. Do you feel like it's getting better at all, like recently? With like I because last time I was there, the CBS is downtown were closed, the Walgreens were closed because of the people just running in stealing ship. Like, do you feel like it's starting to turn the tide? It all? I just think that everyone's getting might be

getting a little bit smarter. Obviously still get those like tourists and ship that come in and they don't really know and also they're just probably they just took everything already. Yeah left. Yeah, there's there's only so much fun. There's so much shit you could take. Yeah, and something like like we were talking about sometimes people just leaving their

their windows rolled down. Yeah, Like when we were I was like, guys, if we go anywhere, we're leaving every window rolled down, just roll the window down because like you know what I'm saying when people look through it, Yeah, don't keep nothing in there. Don't keep nothing in there? Is that what you do? I try not to drive when I'm usually just uber everywhere. That's fair. Just you know, I'm not you know, I'm not tied to anything smart smart or or just just don't leave anything in the car.

You just had a dope event Thursday night Chase Center. It's not they moved, they moved. They moved, they moved. How cool was that? Man? It was incredible? Bro that was the first time that's ever happened. Like, you know, I don't know, Like I got to throw my album at least party Chase Center, right where the Warriors play. Big deal for you, you're a real Warriors fan most of these. Yeah, And it was like it was dope. It was dope for just all the whole community come out.

We we did, I did some collass with some brands, and then we had our mercier. It looked super dope, you know, it was. It was an amazing event. It was all ages, so a lot of people were able to bring their kids and and it was just a dope event. There was like food trucks and it was just dope. Man. It was just dope to be able to bring the bay out for the release and be able to celebrate the release. One one critique I have, I don't know why you hired Nico Blitz to dj

oh Man oh Man. I like Nico. Why I like him? Man? He's a good kid. He's a good kid. He's thirty. Well you know he did he did. He is a good kid. Though Nico produces by radio show. I know he's a good kid with no but he know he did the he did the dollar hits in La. He didn't do the chasing. Oh okay, but yeah, but he's a great guy, you know. But but that event was you're a hero. No, man, Man, he's my hero. Man,

you're a hero. He's my hero. At a certain point in time, he may have had like a light Pilo shrine in his apartment. I don't think it's there anymore, but there may or may not have been a lot of Pilo stuff together in one area, in the corner of a room with candles. Man, I would help someone with someone's praying. I would help someone's praying for me.

I would hope, I would hope. Have you had like any crazy ass experiences like that where like maybe you like there's like a fan who's just like super obsessed or like pops up somewhere you're like, what the fuck? Like maybe like a fan crosses the line. I guess

that you're comfortable with. Man, Dude, there was there was this one time somebody like I don't I wouldn't even call it that, but like this person was like shown up to a lot of places that I was like at and you know, and there was one time like and obviously like it that was in the Bay, Okay. But then then there was this one time I was I was doing yoga and I was in Culver City and that person showed up. Whoa, And I'm like, you know, Culver City is like a little very far from the Bay.

It's far from the Bay six and a half hours away or so six hours away, but showed up at the yoga spot. Yeah, wow, that's pretty interesting. So I don't know I was there for you. No, no, no no, it might have just been a coincidence. So I don't know. That's pretty not I mean, that's random as fuck. So yeah, but you yeah, you know, I mean, like they said, but I think it was. It might have just could have been a coincidence, right, And I'm just being a

fucking douche. Dead Yeah, I'm being a douche, and you know what I'm saying. I would never want to wish that on anybody. But so yoga is that like I've never done it. I heard it's good for you though, No, it's man, I've been I've been doing how yoga for like almost a year now. I love it. It's like it's really a life hack, very very very very you know, zend you know mind, body, spirit, You feel like healthier

doing it. Yeah, you know because you know all that ship like helps like your inside and ship and you know, like you know and in my profession, like you know, we drink a lot of alcohol and of course do a lot of crazy ship, but like all that stuff

like like activate certain things. You're stretching certain things, and you're you're you're like the insides like really get that flow of like how they're supposed to be like stretched out and like moved around and the blood is like transferring from your head to on your feet and all that stuff is like really and it's like also like

an exercise like like really burning calories and ship. I'll be in like literally like sweating, bro Like like sweating doesn't get funky in those things that look there's there's like the like the bigger corporate spots, like whether they're just like mulely people in those spots are a little funky. You gotta find you gotta find a little like a little tucky like Mom and pops joints that are like

independently or just like kind of like smaller. So it's like you you don't get that like kind of like cow mule kind of thing. It's like they're just like loading thirty people in a room and then the next thirty people come. They're not cleaning it, but usually like the spots that I go to, just like they go in there wipe like they make sure everything wipe down. They wipe down on our weights. And would you consider

yourself like a spiritual guy? Uh? Yeah, I would. I would like to think so, I would like to think so religious. You fuck me. I mean, you know we've had our bouts with Jesus Christ. Yeah, you know, yeah, I think I think do you remember that interview we were like Jesus Christ Jesus cooing? Yeah, I mean it

was so funny at some point. Yeah, like I think, I know, yeah, I would say a little bit of religious, but like I know, I'm more like I would more say more spiritual, Like I feel like someone's up there learning of this whole thing, right, I feel like I feel like most people probably feel that way right where You're probably like, I'm not sure I'm going to commit to any of these man made religions as much as

like trying to get right. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, I don't think uh, I don't think God looks like the guy that they're like putting out there. So not like Morgan Freeman. I mean he might look like Morgan. That would be actually cool. I wouldn't be mad if God looked like Morgan Freeman and he had his voice, the voice would really say the voice was set it off. I appreciate y'all watching, but listen, our partners at blue Cheo they got you handled Fellas and Etcetera's whatever you are,

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Have you like done a lot where you like really have like a fucking like a breakthrough. I haven't got I haven't got that deep in you just usually just like it's it's it's you. Honestly, if you like take like a microdose, if you're out, if you're like just want a party, It's way better than drinking or getting high. I feel like, yeah, you know what, you know what it feels like, bro, you take like a couple of little pizzas. Yeah, it kind of feels like the good

part of the pill. See, I've never done a pill in my life, so I'm glad to know that. Yeah, Like like like like Molly and Ship, like if you've done like the good part and it doesn't have like the like the bad part, the bad part, it really just feels like that real like happy, like loose, loose kind of kind of kind of feel. So yeah, I

kind of fuck with that. Like if I'm in like if I'm in Vegas or something, I'll kind of like take a couple of chocolates, have some drink, you know what I'm saying, catch a little vibe and then I feel great. Shout out to the molly Man. I think Amy, I just think of mac dre, R I p R. Peter Drizzle. Never really was a big fan, not gonna lie, not like I'm not not that I'm not a fan. I just never was, like I'm not like, I just never was really into this ship. Yeah I didn't grow

up in the bay. Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, I mean he he was definitely I'm not not a fan, but I'm also not like a fan. Yeah I got you got you know, like Pastor Troy not not a fan, but yeah he's not a fan. Yeah, fucking Will wants to shoot me right now. No, no, no, no no. I love Pastor Troy. I love we read. But like I'm like, yeah, that's it, right, is it right? He had the fucking w W belt, he had that w CW World Championship belt with that Falcons jersey huh. And I love some

mac dre songs. I just never like dived into his cattle, you know what I mean. He's got he's got real catalog. So what I heard is like before him passing, he was kind of like more hip, like like people were fucking with him in like Berkeley and more like Will looking guys were like really into him, and then once he passed away, like everybody started to embrace him. Would that be accurate, Will, would you say, because you were there? Yeah? Yeah,

which is unfortunate. I feel like a lot of times that takes people like passing away to like really be fully appreciated, you know. Yeah, And I think that's a uh that's something that's like overall, it's like, man, you're just in this life. You're never just gonna get the credit that you deserve. I mean, he's influential as fuck man. Yeah, And like I mean, like the Trill the Trill TV was like that was like literally the backdrop of what

the hyphee movement was like. That was like the real like like the like the bones, the fucking yeah that was the square one. Yeah, Like that was like the scriptures. He put a real like backdrop to what the music and what people were talking about at that time. And that's what I feel like also elevated his like legend status, you know what I'm saying. He really gave the backdropped some of the best artwork of all time. His fucking

album artwork was crazy. I remember going into like Virgin and seeing it, I'm like, yeah, this shit is wild. This guy's the genie of the lamp FINALD D. Reagan, Like, come on, man, that's legendary. Yeah. Who Uh Okay, So I want to give you flowers here because I think if we're looking at the Bay Area, right, there's forty and two short. Those are like, okay, forty two short. Then there's mac dre Then I'd say there's like G easy.

But I feel like after a guy like G. I mean, obviously there's like the Kick the Sneaks and the Jackets of the World and and uh hot shout out to Hiro. I know, high Road Day just happened, But I kind of feel like consistency. You're kind of like knocking on fucking what eight nine years straight, you've really been like representing the city at a super high level. I feel like you're really kind of starting to like catapult yourself in like the conversation of being like all time fucking

from the city. Man, man, I mean that's from the area around. Yeah, from the area. I mean that that's an honor, you know. I mean like I think that was you know, when I when I set out on uh the journey because I know it's going to be a journey and it's still the journey. And that's just from my perspective because I know, like Big Vaughn and uh Dame will watch this and have a fucking, absolute fucking convulsion. But just from from someone who's not from

the Bay, you know, south of the Dam. Yeah, of course, yeah, legends they put together their top Bay area listen, I'm

just like, what the fuck. But again, I'm not from there, so yeah, yeah, no, I mean, dude, like just just just the base is such a legendary spot for like rap and music and in culture culture in general, and just to be just for me to be able to like, like for you to be like in that conversation, you know what I'm saying, because you you might not even be one hundred percent right or lie and day might not be one hundred percent right, But just to be

in that conversation with those with those names, the people that are like I was, like I grew up to and the people that I like looked up to. Man, that's that's love, man. Because I think of it like this, I'm like, Okay, probably the most important movement out of the Bay of the last ten years is one hundred percent HBK Gang and you have one hundred percent I mean,

shouts to Kailani in terms of hip hop. You've been the most relevant and successful person in HBK Gang to come from it rather and to me, like HBK Gang is like a moment in time that like was like crazy, like yeah, as we do those yearly concerts and all that shit, but the fact that like you were able to like take that and never stop and just keep going up, up up, you know what I mean. I mean, I mean, I think that just goes back to like

I mean, doing those days. Man, we were out, we were around a lot of great people, like I mean, Sue is like like architects, like like like I'm nowhere where I'm at without Sue say cool time, Like you know what I'm saying. That movie almost fucking crazy. That was That's but that's I think that's that album really, Like I feel like that's when things change for you. Okay, yeah, no one like because I remember you had was it was it our beat? What's the one we had the

baby with a little more bit more go change? Yeah, there was the what was the song in there? I used to play in the club, going to work, yeah, go on to work. Yeah. But I feel like at that time you were kind of like the little homie and you were like, yeah, we love his beats, like he also raps a little like yeah no, but yeah, Like I mean without those guys, like like, I'm nowhere in that conversation for sure, you know what I'm saying, those those people will help me so much, and those

people helped guide me. Those people gave me the confidence to even do what I'm doing, you know what I'm saying. Sage, Sue, Cool John, All those guys like those are the people that are like I continue to look up to, you know what I'm saying, just and as humans and in life. So it's like just to be in that, it's like, yeah, HBK is like incredible. Yeah, fire, who would you put in your like your Bay Area rapper Mount Rushmore? Woo

that's tough. I feel like three slots are already taken, So the fourth one is going to be the controversy. But go ahead, damn. I mean, if you really, if you really think about it, bro, like impact and all this shit. Bro, I really like you can really make an argument for I am Sue bro up there for like you know what I'm saying, for what spawned from him? Okay, so we're putting im Sue up there mac mac dra short for it. Those are the four I like it.

I mean, like I know you know that's that, that's me, you know what I'm saying. No, I mean I don't feel like people give suit enough credit. I mean, like, bro, like how like like how great are you if if if you're the only one that's great? Mm hmm. You know what I'm saying, Like how many people don't spawn off from the I M tree from from the tree. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And like I don't think a lot of people overlook it because we're still like that.

It's like still like happening, you know what I'm saying, still happening right now. People are still like living in that like you know, people still do you guys still talk often? You and too, I mean we talk here and there, like you know, like you know, he's like we both hella busy. You know what I'm saying, got a lot of shit going on. But yeah I just SAWD to him. That's long ago. Great guy, awesome, great, awesome guy. Bro. Yeah, still a great friend of mine,

still my brother to this day. Yeah. How's how's John doing? Yeah? John? I brought out John at the Chase Center. You know what I'm saying. He's awesome. You know what I'm saying, Like he had you know, he had had a situation that like a couple of years ago or like right when the pandemic happened. But he's cool, he's he's smooth, he's you know, back moving around. He's gravy. You know what I'm saying. Uh, there's a lot of dope energy out of the area right now because you look at

we talked about the Russell yourself. I like Simba, who's been around for a long time. No, for sure, Larry Larry, Larry Jesus like bro like literally like Bro, like he might be up there. I mean you know what he's in that conversation. I totally I totally shipped over that for sure. And because he's up there, broly consistently Simba Larry, Like these are people that I've been seeing since like two thousand and like six, two thousand and seven. Bro, Like we were back in high school trying to do

the ship. Yeah, Simba was like dude, I used to be a just running around with a man all over the bay, like he's a managed artist. And then Larry June. I'm knowing about Arry June forever. Bro Like yeah, like he had what was What's he had a fucking shoe collab four or five years ago with that what's that skate company? He had to shoot with it will look Love? Yeah, that one. But yeah, not June's. He's you know, he's like he's for show, Like I mean, he's Damn, he's

the guy. Yeah, he's the guy. He's the guy. I totally feel terrible because I didn't mention Hi earlier. But yeah, he's that you know, No, he's he's up there, bro, He's and he's also like really that like that real beayar let that that independent you know what I'm saying. He's really pushing that line, you know, and like not a lot of people has been able to do it. He's doing. He's doing and probably can continue to do.

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you're dropping or so. Yeah, do you feel like because I just I you know, I saw I don't know if you saw this, you probably did. You see DJ had challenge a bunch of LA rappers to get on a p lo bet hm, I feel like you've kind of stepped away a bit in terms of like your profile as like a producer. Yeah, I mean for other people, Yeah, yeah, I mean because you feeling like I'm I'm like, I'm spending a lot of time like what one producing for myself because like I'm starting shit from zero, because your

whole album is you right. Well, yeah, well for the most part, like well, a lot of well there's a lot of co production and okay, so I went through a lot of different producers. Uh, but we're really starting ship from zero to to where it's at to a hundred, you know what I'm saying, So like that shit takes time. And then also I'm trying to like every time I'm trying to do something, I'm trying to level up and

I'm trying to like evolve the sounds. So it's like there's it takes time to do that and ship like that. But like I think I definitely want to like definitely hop in that bag, you know what I'm saying. I definitely can't hop in that back. I think just sometimes people forget that I produce. In general, we got a great tag man. Yeah, I think people think people just think that's like like my son like always like a

Pilo song. No, but like I beat I made the beat. Yeah, But yeah, I think just a lot of people just forget that I produce. So it's like and also like like not just like oh here's a beat, like producing you gotta give the Russell a beat. We got some, we got some. We got stuff. But like like we've been we we talked about doing some some things. But I know he's just he got he's he's coming to man that I think that's just I just gotta come to the v I'm gonna just I'm gonna go stay

at the Hampton In. Yeah, I stayed there. I'm gonna stay at the Hampton In Like right by the six Flags, Shout out to the crest, Shout out to the crest. There's a wild, wild, homeless fucking situation going on by that seven eleven between the King's Marketplace or the seven eleven. Motherfucker had he was walking a goddamn wolf and he had his stick and he kept beating the dog and I was like, damn. They things things you see in

the Bay, they just decriminalized. But it was in Sancisco or San Francisco, because I think it was already decriminalized in Oakland. Yeah, that was the first place to do it, right, I know in Portland everything is decriminalized. So good. Yeah, I feel like the whole are you pretty popping in like Portland, Seattle? I feel like that's kind of like extended Bay. Yeah, like all all that all that's like them is like our cousins, you know, so like we

showed they show us the lie of love. We love we love love them up there, and I feel like, you know, a lot, a lot of the lifestyles are the same too, Like we smoke a lot of weed. Mm hmm, have a good time. They like doing that. Well. Listen, man, the album is out stunning, stunners, out fire project. Thank you, lots of good vibes es. Just throw that bitch on and just have fun. Yeah, you throw that bitch on,

have have have fun, smoke a little weed. I like the outro, the freestyle, what's it called the Ghetto Report? That's just hard, thank you man. Yeah, and you had forty do the intro. Yeah what ah Yeah that was pretty cool like that. That all happened within like a couple of days before Forty on the intro. Yeah, kicking the whole joint off, houses, Houses, Houses, Lumpia is it good? Yeah, you know it's fire. They have like a bunch of ship that I had the like the cheeseberry Lumpia was

pretty far. Forty is a cheeseburger. Look at the speaking of Nico Blitz, take that bullshit off, fucking lunch table. His logo just pops up on the TV. It's like the Philippine. It's like the Filipino. Fucking that's the universe, witchcraft going on what we were talking about earlier. Bro, it's the universe. Bro, the universe. Shout out to Nico but no, but yeah, no, the project is open. Shout out to you forty. I'm curious because I love Lumpia

and I know he's got like the Lumpia Company. And yeah, he's got his turf burritos, he's got his ice cream goon with a spoon. The tequila solid Yeah, no, I've never had the wine because I don't drink wine. The wine, the wine gets loose, it gets you loose. Do they still have a forty water? Does it still happen? I don't know. I don't know if. I don't know if that if that's the thing? Uh anymore? The product are you dropping? If you could drop a product? Damn, that's

that's tough. Royal honey Oh the honey pack. Yeah, yeah, I've never used the honeypeck. You're a liar. No, I promise in your life you've never taken a rhino or a honey peck. My one time my shit get up. Of course it does. But have you ever been super ship faced and been like, fuh no, if I'm if I if that happens, I'm I'm just pure gummy warm.

I'm done. There's wait a second, it's a wrap. I'm not even you've never even taken a Mexican biacros, Because the thing is, if I if I if i'm, if I'm too ripped like that, there's no way I should be fucking my ship if I look my shiit say Barry Bonds needed steroids to hit seventy three home runs? Yes? Could he have hit fifty without him? Don't you want to have a seventy three home run season? You know? You know? But see you you can't just do that, like you don't want to, like you want to crutch

on that, you know? No, of course not. But when I first started dating my wife, I was like, okay, you just you want to just wake it up. I gotta wake that thing up. All when me and my wife first started dating and I started, I was like, every time I was off for half a fucking Mexican viagra, you were just waking waking that thing up. I was like, man, we're gon We're gonna bring her in, We're never gonna let her go. Yeah, he was going gorilla the whole time.

The Rhino pills, though, they get to get you in the sinuses, like right here. The honey is a little different. I heard the honey's got awful. I'm sure it's all got off awful for you. But a plow row honey coming soon, even though he doesn't use it. You know, you know, I don't know there it is, man. I appreciate you going up the new album stream that thing. Go buy a hat that he won't give me because

he's a liar. And yeah, and maybe maybe I'll see you in Francisco, man, maybe maybe there it is out to Taylor Street.