#206 - Nems

I was like, that's fucking crazy. So I had to explain to my son. I'm like, no, you don't understand, Like this dude is like a very elite level MC. You run into that a lot now. But he was just in Roscos and like two little kids just came running up to me their pants like Yo, sorry, we don't want to bother you because you take a picture. I'm like, well, I love it. Wow, it's great, man, it's great. It's like spending is back in the days as a grimy individual doing you know, the wrong side

of life. I may, you know, produce a lot of bad home. So it's good to just be on the right side of things and create whatever I walk in, whether it's all core rappers, little kids, old ladies, whoever it all, when I walk in, they all get happy. Now you know what I'm saying, which is a great thing. I love it. Yeah, I feel like it's crazy because I feel like most people might have like a moment like the Bing Bonk summer with the knicks and sidewalk talk and all that, and like not make the right

moves to kind of capitalize off that. But I feel like you've been on top of your shit, bro, absolutely, because you know why I've been. I've been grinding for years, and it's like I was. I always knew if I stayed consistent and just kept on and stayed true to myself, something was gonna stick. So I've been putting work ready for this moment for years. I didn't know what it was gonna be, just so happens to be the Bing Bong ship. But already has shit in order. You've been

doing like that. Don't ever dis after bing Bong. Yeah yeah, Bing Bong probably started March April of before the actual season started. Yes, yes, so you are already doing Bong. But what you were saying it and then uh, probably

in like November, Oh, it started taking off. And two months before that, I had just dropped an album with the song bing Bong, So it's the bing Bong was just taking off right when it started fucking blowing up too at the same time, and I got the remix with Fat Joe Buster Styles and it just was like boom, that album did this thing. I was doing the number you know, the videos, and then to promote Congo is

when I started. I was like, yo, I'm not on the major I'm doing you know, everything is paid for myself. I gotta you know, my album's coming out in the week. What am I gonna do? And I was like, just one in my hood. Yeah, I don't disrespect my album coming out in three days looking like that. And then by the time the album came out, people were like, yo, we kind of don't want you an album to come

out because you want to keep seeing these videos. So I was like, I'm gonna keep doing them, and then it just went into that and it also showed people like I'm not I could I make up flash it all the time? You throw bing bong? My shit was gonna be over when that not right when I was don't ever disrespect me taking over that, don't ever disrespect me. Shit. It's like it's like freestyle comedy at its best. It's like freestyling without having the rhyme. Anybody ever like really

get angry? Nah, not really, man, because you know why when I do it, I'm not doing it like a like a like a right likehod like yeah, motherfucker, don't never dis now. I'm like, yeah, I don't disrespect. A lot of people don't even notice I'm doing it to them, and oh they notice it after it's already done, like too late, like oh fuck this, mother, don't never disrespect me? Looking like Captain Porto Rican yo. And I'm doing it with a smile and I'm six four three fifty. You

know what I'm saying, Like you know what's gonna happens? Yeah? Yeah. And it's crazy too because like did you notice? Like because I want to give you another and I might be wrong in giving you credit for this, but I feel like the new pause is Ao Yeah, absolutely right. Santana the gay rapper up Yeah yeah, And I was talking him about whether or not pause was a homosexual

pause homophobic. Yeah yeah, and he was like, nah, he's like me and my homies did the same name, but we'd be like, hey, yo, yeah, everybody, that's your thing.

It kinda it's like a New York thing. But I'm like, you made it poppularly, yes, but see everybody, a lot of people in New York say, I'm not going to take credit for creating it, but I feel like, you know, humbly that it did start taking off with the like you know instead of pauses AO now because of the viral video, and but before that, I always was saying that the people around me from like say Philly or other places would just start saying it as well when

they after they be around me, you know I'm saying and be like, yeah, do you know they didn't understand that it was like Paul, so they just start saying it on regular ship like oh I spilled my shade. Yo. You know what I'm saying. Now, you don't do it like that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Nah, listen, man, you've been on a run and I think it's just dope because, like you said, you've been consistently doing this ship for so long and like to see it payoff

is in one way or the other. It's like absolutely incredible. Ye yeah, And you just told me who was on this new album you got coming with scram Jones. I don't know if I can spell. You said you're gonna hear it here first, because I haven't said it to anybody else, but the Rise of the Silver Back. Nam's fully produced by scram Jones. It's coming out end of November, probably no end of October, early November. So we got

ghost Face, I forgot Sheik Loots, Angie Martinez. She may or may not be rapping Fat Joe gun Play, Okay, Uncle Murder, Davy p D Crack to Stay Property. These are all people that I've always throughout the years wanted to work with me. I don't care if they're buzzing

now or what, like whatever. I fuck with talented people and people that I fuck with like their music, and I feel like all these guys brought their fucking best, Like ghost Face, he laid a verse on there that was just like sounded like fucking first Wu Tang album type ship. Ghost Faces, He's about my fifth favorite MC of all time. He's my top five. He's definitely my top five as well. Most consistent in all of the absolutely supreme clientele is probably my top three albums of

all time. Pollow Kids, Yeah, that's that's. I have a playlist, you know. I made playlist just so I could be having a call of So there's one playlist of songs. Let's say Never gets Old, the Ship that I Never get sick of, Apollo Kids is on there, Mighty Healthy is on there, or Mighty Deadly whatever the fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of There's a couple of ghost Face joints on there. When you like reach out to ghost facers the other way around, like oh hey, yo, pause,

So ghost Face, I'm on his album thirty six Seasons. Okay, so I put two verses on there, so he's with you. I always yeah, I always held that in my back pocket, like allright, ghost on me a verse. I'm not gonna like press the issue, but I gave you two verses, you know what I'm saying. Of course I got paid through the labels and all that, but but then ghost didn't know me at that time. That was put together by I think like Bob Perry or somebody else. But

with ghost I haven't listened. When I see these random motang albums that look like the artist is not like to be fair, but I'm out of Bob Perry. Yeah, I'm sure Ghosts had to approve it, of course. Yeah it's a bad yeah. Yeah. And it was honor for me because one song is just me a ghost the other one is just me and cool Gie Rap on a ghost album. Ghost is not even on that song that I'm on his album made Cool g Rapp is only Well, first of all, that's incredible that you were

on a regular Coolie Rap. Second of all, I'm on Coolgie raps new album. Oh okay, okay, okay, you're on his new album it's about to come out. Oh wow, So you're on two songs with him, So yes, full circle. You're on a ghost Face song, the ghost Face isn't on and you're on a cool girat. Yes, yeah, it's full circle. You know why because a lot of these people at the time they may not just the thirty six season is from twenty sixteen, so nobody really he

none of the bigger artist knew about me. But through the years after I did that was see the ghost Face. He would show me a lot of love. But then ghost Face, you know, I guess he started finding out who I was and just really getting into my send. He was like, your names, I got you one hundred percent. I just don't go to the studio a lot, but when I when I go next time, you top priority. And when he sent it, I was like, well worth the way, well worth the way, one hundred percent. It

sounds like vintage ghost Face. I was like, yo, he kind of bodied me on my own. Shit, that's a good thing, and that's okay, you would like that. I'm not one of these alls like yo, I tried to body everybody that said, yeah it's call you know. But when I'd rather have a dope ass song than a mediocre song where I'm bodying somebody else on it, right,

I'm I'm I'm all about the full product. Yeah. It's almost like you want if you're gonna have ghost Face on a song, you want to have the best ghost face fat possible facts and like if someone got it ho verse and was like, I kind of don't want to hold the overship, Like no, it's jay Z exactly, like everyone's talking about this calid jay Z Versus he spent like a hundred balls on that. People forget Rick Ross and Little Wayne's on it. And that's okay. Yes, absolutely,

jay Z spent one hundred bars exactly exactly. Nah No, that's crazy. Shouts to Gohot. Uh Fat Joe obviously hopped on the bing Bong remix. K Luch also a silver back Gorilla, Yo, That's why I put him. He's on the title track Rise of the Silva Bag is featuring Sheikh luch Chic. You know. So he's he's with the Gorilla's the Silviet He's an album's called Silva Bag. You know what I'm saying. So I felt like it was

a natural thing. And when that whole when we did the bing Bong remix, Vine Idol produced it and he's like a D block producer. So originally I wanted uh Fat Joe Ulster and the whole locks on it. I feel like if we would have had more time, I would have got that, but uh Styles sent the ship Man quick and then you know, Jada was doing ship I seen Jada recently. He was like, yeah, I owe you a verse. I got you one hundred per. He was like, I was supposed to do the remix, but

I didn't get to it. But I got you and chic. He adready had given me that verse a while ago, you know, so he you guys each have high level like disrespectful violence in your Yeah, like are very high high both about this. And I'm fatter than him, but he's with both, just like random micropbjects getting stabbed whatever. That's dope though, man, So hopefully scram Jones get it together. Man, it's done, but it's done. Yeah. Yeah, November Facts Andrew

Martinez rapping. She might be, she might not be, but she's on now we're gonna find out. Yeah, Yeah, she took a lot. You guys did an interview, so like she's the best, She's amazing. She's a fucking legend. Man.

When when I got that call, like yo, and you wants you on the show, I was like, wow, really that's kind of like validation, like because especially in New York City if you're from New a lot of like like she only interviews like the top of the top, exactly what you're saying, I'm saying that, you're saying I'm on the fucking bottom. Bro, what you're saying that, Like that validates what you're doing because she don't just interview everybody yeah, no, one hundred percent. And she was totally

in tune with what I was doing. And h I found out she's fake from Coney Island from my neighborhood, vaguely because if you look on a map, geographically, the area she's from would be considered Coney Island. But if you're from Coney Island, it's not Coney Island. And that's what she explained. I was like, yo, and I heard all through these years you're from Corneld. She was like, yo, I'm from Beach Haven and I was like, oh yeah. She was like, so, you know, that's not really Cony Island,

but it is Coney Island. It's like a weird thing. It's not really the hood Conel, which is Cone So but she's you know, so she always showed me mad love and uh yeah, it's dope. Let me ask you this. This is random. Have you made it to Detroit since you're not setting up But I've been to Detroit many times, Okay. I just everyone's like, you gotta go to a Coney Island in Detroit. Yeah, And I was like, isn't that

a place in Brooklyn. Yeah? So we went to the Coney Islands in Detroit were Yeah, but it's so crazy. It's like so embedded into the culture of Detroit already did so around the early two thousands when I was battling doing the fight Club Ship and all of that, I was fucking with D twelve, Heavy, Bizarre Proof, Rest in Peace. So I was going out there, uh, numerous times. But the first time I went out there, I'm like, it's everywhere. I'm like, Yo, why all these stores say

Coney Island on them? What the fuck is this? And then I would go in, I would like, oh, these are hot dog. So Nathan's, which is like an original place in Cone and Connel they invent did kind of like hot dogs. That's where. That's that's all. I guess they Joey chesnutt be fucking Gladiator, so I guess they they didn't want to. I guess whoever created these stores or started doing the Coney Islands didn't want to pay Nathan's. The feeling was just like, Oh, fuck, Nathan, we're just

gonna call it Coney Island. What's I e bed it out there, But I was like, you gotta go to a Cody Island. Every neighborhood has their own. Yeah, it's crazy wild and they use it as like a nown. Yeah, yeah, they don't call it hot those You gotta go to the Coney Island. Go find you a good Cody Island. I'm like, And then they got everything in there. They got hot dogs, they got pancakes. Yeah, what do you want? Yo? What do you what do you eating? I'm meeting the Coney.

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How dope was it when? Cause was it the White House or Joe Biden's page or somebody They actually did the whole fucking Iron Joe Byron Iron renamed the President. It was really say anything from the thing he kind of it was the Jonas Brothers in the White House, And at the end of the video you're just like, yeah, we got it. It's him with the phone, so you know he was. It was kind of his video too.

But I remember what I was doing. I think that might have been the last day I ever packaged my own merch because that's when it really was blown up. But every day something was happening with the bing bong shit. Everybody. Every day somebody knew was saying it. This day was fucking Little nas X. This day is John Legend singing they take me out. I'm like, yo crazy, which I still got a sample, by the way, And every day was something new and new and new, and at that

time the merchants going crazy, you know. So I'm packaging my own ship. I got to hold my whole house is film merching. I gotta ship out. I'm like, this is getting too crazy. And I remember shipping the how my man Van gone with me helping me out, and somebody DMS like I stopped for a minute. I opened up my gram somebody did. I'm like, oh, we made it. Like no, this is crazy. The President just said it crazy, and uh, I mean, you can't get more viral than that.

What's like the latest of what's going on with the Joe Byron guy, Like he's out here in California. I think he's in like Coachella Valley, Wre's Palm Springs, So that's where it is. Somebody sent me a video and getting the ship together. No, doing the same thing he was doing in fucking Coney Island. But fucking I guess he made it across country. He's originally from California. Oh so he just made it back to Yeah. I was looking through my videos on Instagram if you go back.

I don't know all my lives, not in my regular ship. I didn't post it on my like the grid, but there was one night I was out corning and I just talked about like, Yo, what, how the fuck you want? Who are you? Why'd you end up here? I got his whole story, and he's originally from California and he made it out there. I don't know. His mother said, you never make it to New York. Some I don't

know what the fuck? It's all on my ship if you just you got to search though, But he's somebody sent me a video like yo, I'm the Byron guy. Like two kids were like, yoms, look we got this guy out here. I was like, oh, that's where he is because I haven't seen him. Wasn't there like a was there like a gofund He made more money off that video than then he was. He made like forty racks off of that. Good for him, absolutely, I don't think he has any more of it. I think he

spent it all, and he's back to Square one. He's back in California at least he got out here with him exactly. He's back home. Yo. We reunited him with his son. When the videos came out, his son DM ME like, Yo, that's my father. Fuck And I asked him. I was like, Yo, you got a son. He's like little DJ. He started fucking crying. I was like, yo, look he's just DM me. He was like, and he can grasp popping like that video. Go oh yeah yeah. Because once after a while, we we'll be like, yo,

where's this guy. We haven't seen him for a minute. He would just yeah, he would just pop up in Times Square and just be like just yell out Byron. Then crowds would form around him. He was loving it. He probably still loves it. Remember that one dude got him got him? Yeah, that dude is obviously had I see him get scared on the train somebody bullied him

or some ship. No, bro, He's like, if you're if you go to Vegas or I've seen him on Hollywood Boulevard just like he's like, damn bad bro, Like he's I'm apprecire, he's homeless. Are close to it. That's I've seen a video recently. Somebody was even like in person on Hollywood Boulevard. Bro was like that he already looked like something before him, but like he there was a video he was on like a train station and somebody was like yo, he was like, he looks scared to death,

like yo, please don't hurt me. The god was like, yo, I'm not trying to hurt you, Bro, I just want you to say it. And he was like okay, got him. Yeah that's kind of terrible. Yeah, but you've been there, Like it's cool because you were doing I saw you do some comedy nights share right, Yeah, my own comedy show. So I'm trying to touch money in every fucking air.

You're hilarious, like you're like a special but yeah, you're my kind of like Bro, the first time we met and you wrapped on my show and yeah, was there, Bro, I was like I love that level of like just your bars just was like so fucking crazy. I was like me and this guy the same kind of guy, absolutely, but it's it's it's a different. It's like if somebody gives me a microphone, it's like, yo, go in front of that crowd and be fucking hilarious. I probably won't be.

But if I'm just normal on the street with just joking, I feel like you could do crowd work. Yeah. I just have to put into work, I know. I mean, like, because you know there's a comedian who have like a ten minute sound oh yeah, people that just fuck with the crowd. But then there's like guys who are really good like Andrew Is, Like, yeah, he's an amazing regular comedian, but he's also great at just if there's a couple in the front road that look crazy. No. No, I

went to a show that the infamous. He gave me tickets I got. I'm cool with him now, Like you went on this show, right, No, I did, Like that's what I'm talking about it. Yeah, yeah, he talked about on the show. I also linked up with him. I did. He did a video to promote his concerts that were going on. So after I did that, he gave me the tickets to Radio City and I actually watched his show that the guy is fucking hilarious, and he was, and I know that's when I started seeing how he

was fucking with the crowd. And then the other day I was with Russell Peter's like I saw that. Yeah, a lot of these comedians like fuck with me. And Russell Peter is a fucking hip hop head. I didn't know that hard. Russell Peter is a fucking real one with that. He was DJ. Yeah, yeah, he was before he was a comedian. He told like we but he invited me. He's like, yo, you in la, come fuck with me. I went to his house just thinking I

was gonna say, what up, bro me. My whole crew stayed there probably the whole night till, like from like falling afternoon to like two in the Morning's amazing and and just had a great time. Dwayne Martin from Above the Rim, well, well chillin, it's like surreal these all people you know above the riom you grow up. I grew watching that. We talked about that. We talked about that. The great that soundtracks whatever. Soul in the whole was that the one where his brother died and he was

I didn't even see the movie. I that one solo in the hull wasn't Dwayne Martin in another basketball movie where he's a basketball player. He spoke about that. He said, oh he's in White Man can't jump he's in White Man Can't Jump. Okay, Yeah, there was a Wayne's brother in a movie where one of the two guys died and his it wasn't Dwayne Martin. Then do you know him? But you're in a movie I'm talking about Like it

was like two guys brought a team. They might have been brothers or they were best friends or something, and one of the two guys died and then the rest of the season, like the guy's ghost is like helping him play like crazy, but it's like a comedian. Yeah, am, it wasn't a good movie, but you know, well, the soundtracks was fucking great. What's your top five soundtracks? Honestly, I just think I really think eight Miles is the best one ever. Really, That's That's a Dope soundtrack. I

think that was the last of the good soundtracks. I think eight Mile had the best Eminem ever m hm. And to me, if you have three records on there, they are the best Eminem that exists. He's one of the greatest of all time. Yeah. Absolutely, And then there was that You Better Love Me bit. Eminem was on that too. That's That's a Fire, The jaz Freeway one, eight Miles and running. Wasn't that Jay and Free? I know they FRANKSTI was on there, you're right, that's a

fire sound. Hip. Professor was a fire sound. Naughty Professor had the Eminem Redman. Yeah, and it had fucking yeah, I had mass ship. That professor was crazy above the room was a fire. One of them was great colors was crazy Friday. Friday Friday's number two for me. Shots, Yeah, the doctor d keeping. Oh you know which one was hard was Bulworth? Yes, they had that and had the There was an LL cool J record on that Crazy Bull was fire. I liked. I wasn't mad at the

fifty movie soundtrack. The movie was terrible, but you didn't like that. I mean I didn't love it. I feel like it was I didn't it just it's kind of was like the same thing as Eminem's right. Just I didn't love a mile. So you know, I like, I think it was cool. I think shout out to Brittany Murphy. Yeah, no, no no, the battle scenes are amazing. Yeah, that's just great. Okay. I have a Belly poster behind you, and I always say that Belly, that's a fire sound crazy. That's one

of that might be number one. The Gang Star Militia remix with dub C's on there that ah boom, here comes the boom. Yeah, yeah, you might be right. It's up there half a mill. Here's some ship on there that had the locks with made men that brown not no devil an a dress or something Deangeloi. Yeah, they had the nash Met the Man and DMX joint. Great soundtrack. Yes, that's why it sounds. Is it the best worst movie of all time? I think Belly's a bad movie. I

think it's a great bad movie. Yeah. Yeah, I could agree on that because growing up I just thought it was a great movie. Yeah. And then when I started watching like a lot of movies. Yeah, and then I tried to rewatch Belly like again, like at like twenty four twenty five, I was like, you know, isn't as good as I remember. It was just a great, like looking movie, and it had my favorite rappers in it exactly,

so it was fucking amazing. And there was like moments like in the beginning where they go into the fucking bathroom, boll the guns out, shoot up the lady in the club, and then fucking with CMX is fucking dressed like a homeless guy. Yeah, it had nothing to do with nothing, this random acts of violand and the dude's eating the fucking the fruit Glizzie the banana, and he's all, we gotta.

I don't like this shit. That's like going on like a great like a six Flags when you're a kid, like yo, this place is huge, and then you go to as an adult and like it's not that big over here. You know what I'm saying. It's just kind of smoke, like fucking four rods. Yeah, well you guys have a roller coaster and uh it's like food night clone is it? Wooden? Yeah? That should break your fucking back, those wooden bush. I don't know this shit no more. Let's time I got that like whip lass bro, this

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been doing the Drew League shit a lot, the Crew League. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hosted the last two seasons, my last, the last season that came out in the new season that's about to come out. Great, great, had a great time. Yeah. I shot to elid because it was it you and was Drewskie doing stuff. No, drewski did the first two seasons okay, okay, and you were after Yeah, he did season one and two and I did season three and four, and he like U interesting times during during the because the who's

who of everybody's playing. No, you wind up getting cool with with with guys that I would never expect. I got cool with twenty four K Golden Now, I would never expect me to get cool. But he's a great, great guy. Great guys fuck with him heavy, Uh, I got cool Walker Walker's great is the man also a lot better of a rather than people know he actually really gets. He just dumbs himself down. Really, That's really what it is. Like, Yeah, I just make a lot

of connections with solid individion. You know what I'm starting to learn and as I get to meet a lot more people in this industry is the people that the public and I'm not saying the people I mentioned about them, but a lot of people that I meet that people be like, oh nah, this guy's corny or this guy is this so that wind up being the coolest ones.

The people that think are like coolist fucking wound up being fucking weirdos and fucking you know, Connor corny, and just like it's always the ones that people just like, don't really give credit to that one be like this guy is a fucking solid individual man? Who who who was it? That? So all? I was like, Yo, you're

you're a fucking great guy, uh fucking Trinidad James. Oh Yeah, But I think I was biased because he had that ship going on with New York where he said like whatever he said about New York at that time, remember, and I remember, so I spoke to him about that. But after, you know, because he did the Crew League just right now. We did in Atlanta, and I spent the whole weekend with him, and I'm like, at the end of the week, I'm like, Yo, man, you're a

fucking good, great guy. You're a solid individual. Bro. Yeah. I think like it's so weird because I almost feel like he was like kind of like his success was like almost what bit him in the ass. And then I think that New York thing kind of like it really hindered him. Yeah. Absolutely, but Yo, he's in New York over the time. He does the Complex, the show,

the Sneaker shows. Yeh uh, full Size run. I just think when you have like a record like go to Everything and it's your first fucking song and it's just so fucking big and it's so fucking ignorant like that before, and then you're kind of beefing with New York. Yeah, It's like it's like a lot of people were probably like hoping that he was like a flash in the panel. Yeah, and I think like artistically he actually has some other

dope ship. Yeah absolutely, but his his his shows, though I catch it on you like it depends on who he has on. Yeah, it's like him and like two random might dudes. Yeah, yeah, I was on. I had a great time on that. Man. I think I saw you on the last one. That ship is dope. I was trying to stay pretty tapped in with your run. I saw you on Chrissy D's podcast. Yo, was that? Does he do that in his house? Yes? I had

no idea who he was before him. I don't like doing a lot of podcasts because I feel like it's all the same fucking questions over and over and over. Uh So a lot of times I say no now he hit me up, d m me, y'all, what's up man? Big fan ball just a big fan. Everyone's big. Yeah, everyone's a big fan. Yo. You want to call on my podcast? No, not really, he asked me again, like a couple of days later. I was. I was like,

where is it. He's like, I send the call for you everything, and wounded up being like twenty minutes from my house. Fifteen minutes. I was like, all, bro, I'll come. I went there. I had a great time. Bro. It was a dope episode, but he's great. And then I realized this guy is really popping and his kids are kind of like you. Yeah, in terms of the mixture, of Yeah. Absolutely. I met his wife, I met his kids. It's at his house. The podcast away. He's a great guy.

He's fucking a great comedian. I had no idea all this. I tapped in afterwards and I'm like, oh, you know that was shit? Was dope. M Yeah, yeah, I think I think I can see you getting into it. You got to get into that. I mean you're already doing it. You're doing a great job of like kind of being a rapper and being just a great entertainer. Yeah, you know, I'm trying to juggle both because rap it's like the entertainer. Shit is what's kind of popping for me right now.

It's the bread and butter. But I'm at the core. I'm a fucking rapper, bro, I've been fucking doing this for years. I come from the battleship. I really come from that first love. Absolutely. Yeah. It's what I always envisioned my life being. And then this other ship comes along that's more lucrative and more popping right now, and it's just like it's pulling me away. But I'll always rap movies. Absolutely. I'm just a voiceover for HBO Max. That's not really acting. But I'm I'm like one of

two movies and I'm starting, we're shooting one. When October September we're shooting, I'm in, like have a significant, various movie, not like Belly Too. Do you ever watch Belly Too? Nobody. I see the coming trailers, like you already know this is gonna be some bullshit all the yo. Some of them old school like movies where they would just put

a rapper on the posters. There was a nas movie he was in called TikTok and he was in like for maybe thirty seconds, but he was right on the and I sure did rent that motherfucker just watchings die right away. That Joe was in a lot of those movies. Yeah. Yeah, he had a movie called Remember Who's the Man? Who's in Who's the Man? Fucking ed Lover and Doctor Dre but the East Coast Doctors, Yeah that man New York

rappers like every second. I think it was a little I probably was a little young for Who's the Man, But I do remember, like I mean obviously everybody remembers like fucking kill the season, and I was telling that ship at the SWAT meet. But before that, like master P, I got the hook up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was playing that on like fucking one of the ships. The other day, I watched the Little o Ill like this ship is horrible exhibiting. Buster Ryans co starred in a

terrible movie together that I had on BHS. Seen both of them last night. Yeah, of course you did that. Yeah, great was the man bro? Oh he's the best as the man as well. I was hanging out with Buster rhymes. Uh he was playing. He had a little intimate, little steaching level event to listening thing and he was just

so cool. Man. I was like because I like ran into him in other places and try to like had I had people that know him, like, you know, introducing him and he see him like he kind of seemed like a dick. Of course he I mean listen, when you're in the game thirty years, bro, you've seen it all done and all like I kind of feel like there's some days where you're just like get bothered with this shiit. Just make sure nobody talks to me. I

don't want to take fucking pictures. And I could see now, but though it's you know, it takes a lot of energy even now, mental energy. Yeah, no, that's the most it takes everybody wants what they want. They don't give a fuck. If you're having a bad day, yo, let me get a picture. Man. Yeah, it gives no fucks. It's kind of it gets to your mental and I can see how I consider myself strong minded. I can see how somebody that already would have like issues could fold.

You know what I'm saying, because it does get this. There's times when I'm out places and and I'm not I'm not eminem, I'm not draking know, I could see what they can't even go outside. But I see there's times where like I want to leave and I'm stuck. I need this picture, picture, picture pictures like I can't go this way, that way, this way, that whatever. And it's like, this is what I always wanted. So it's cool, this is what I wanted. And you gotta be glad

that it happened to you now and you had drug problems. Really, I always I always feel like recently, I've been thinking about that a lot, Like for years, I was like, yoh damn, I was I had had opportunities with Shady, I had opportunities with death jam why didn't that happen nowt For years I was questioning myself, why didn't that happen? It's clear to me now It's like, Yo, I would have killed myself you were right, or killed somebody. You know what I'm saying. Like it would have it would

have ended badly. Whatever whatever way it would have went, it would have ended badly. And uh, you know that just shows that everything happens for a reason. It don't happen when you wanted to. It happens when it's supposed to, whatever the reason. Whatever the reason is, you know, shit is not gonna happen on your time. It happened on God's time, or the universe is time, whatever you choose to call it. And uh, you know, I'm just happy that I'm lucky, that I'm blessed. I got a mother

who praised for me every day. I have good family and people around me that make sure you. I feel you always at the same squad around you. Yeah, is it pretty easy for you to like because I know you had some sort of struggles we talked about the last time you hear it with sobriety and shit. But now that you're popping, there's more money, there's more cool

shit going on around you. Has it been like have you been pretty have you ever been tempted to like get back into some funck shit or shit always been around me, like like alcohol weed, that shit is always around me. You know what I'm saying. I'm not one of those people that don't do anything, that don't do drugs or drink that be like, nah, you can't do that around me. I'm not a pollipull do what you

gotta do that shit. I know what's good. I know what's good for me, what works for me, And I know that if I take a drink, I'm somebody that can't do one of anything. But I can't do one blunt, one drink, one dollar, one woman. You know what I'm saying, Like like I always gotta do things in fucking excess, so I already know there's no myth there. I know that if you, if I choose to take a drink, I'm gonna drink until I get drunk and throw up. If I smoke, I'm gonna smoke blunts poor fucking day.

If I pop a pill, I'm gonna pop non stop and so I'm fucking passed out. You know what I'm saying. If I fucking sniff, if I sniff some coke. Bro, I'm gonna fucking go on a month long run and nobody's gonna see me. You know what I'm saying. Have you ever been on a month long coke run? Yeah, not coke run, but just a month long just drug life for drug of garbage head? You know, I did everything. I mean, I didn't smoke crack like we talked about needles,

but I did everything, bro. And now you know it's not a fucking eight year run. How about that. Now, I've had family members that we just like, we just wouldn't see it for like two months. Yeah, Bro, that's how it gets my Like my aunt would just drop off her kids with my grandparents and just see you. And it's not even necessarily because that's what you plan to happen or you want to happen. It's just what happens,

you know what I'm saying. It's not because you know, if you listen, if you got somebody in your life that's doing drugs or addicted and you feel like they're doing it to you personally, don't take it like that. It's not like I could tell you from experience, like I never wanted to fuck family members over or fuck friends over. It's just, you know, we're not doing that purposely, it's just it's kind of what happens. That's what happens. Man. Yeah.

Now I've had you know, my cousin steel shit for me, and I mean, yeah, it's just almost like, you know, it's not the real them. I guess that's real though, it's hard not to take a person off big time crazy. Of course, I'm gonna take that shit mad personal now that I'm on the other side, take that shit mad person. I don't give a fuck what you got going for

your life. But I'm just fucking for five crackets. Right outside the gates were smoking feedanehl right like right here, what I'm saying, it's crazy, brother, They were I feel like motherfucker's now in LA probably everywhere. They got that fetnah. You know we talk about like shit being spike with fetanol. No, that's what they want. They're like, I know, I need the fanol, give me the fettie. Why. I spoke to a homeless per he was a fiend, and he said

something about feed like I need. I was a smoke smoke. I thought that shit kills you when you do it. He was like nah, we put it in the Timphoi and smoking now and that shit gets man, I fucked up. I'm like, yo, So you actually go out and look for fetanol now, you're not looking for crack and not looking for perch, just looking for death. It's insane. That's just playing with your life. It's crazy. We got to

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like the first run, when he first won. I don't know if it counted because I'm a felon, but my femily is over ten years old. I feel like, and I believe at some point I got it expunged, like you know, like after ten years you could get the ship exponged. So I think I went through that process. So I don't know. I don't really vote that much. I feel like either side is lying to you, both

facts and what fucked either way? You're one side, you got this divisive psychopath, fucking nurses sticty, and then on the other side you got this dudeho's about to die. Yeah, Like it's like, what the fuck is happening? Can we came to rock run for president? Please? Somebody, somebody I can bring the rednecks and the regular people together. Feels gotta be a pro wrestler's gotta be the rock. Everyone loves pro wrestling. Everyone loves the rock the most people

in the world. Now as an adult, yeah yeah I do. I haven't wanted that was good. Yeah, me and my kid watch it got my ship? Okay, you know it is what it is? Man? Who hit me? What wrestler? Just hit me? Who's the Queen of the ring? The Queen of the ring. She was the first Queen of the Ring. She invited me, like when the big male habit. She's like, come to the book. You would be a sick ass manager like Bobby the Brain. You'd be like the mouth. Yeah, yo, yeah, you'd be like the Paul

Hayman at the rap game. Get into that a w that's next. That's next, man, you gotta figure that out. Who's the girl? If I tell you her name, you'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah, she's fucking popping because I did dead she's she wants there. She won Queen of the Ring. She's wrestling now. Yeah, I don't know. V my son would know. She hit me up like, oh, next one come out. I'm like, y'all really own you care about? I don't really watch wrestling. You go in person,

You'll be like this shit's crazy. I used to go all the time. When I was a kid, The Bushwackers did that ship. I mean like, yeah, hell yeah. When I was a kid, Hell yeah, I met the Bushwhackers. I lived in Tampa and they had a gym that they were part owners of above hal Cogan's Beach Shop in Clearwater Beach. And yeah, they were not how I remembered. They were just very elderly an orange something about that

Florida orange. White people just turn orange in Florida. Man, you see Haul Hogan Orange, Donald Trumpy and mar Lago orange as fuck motherfuckers is orange in Florida? Man? Uh so you got the album coming in November? Ye, some movies coming voiceover for HBO Max comedy shows. I'm trying to do that shit monthly, the comedy show thing. I feel like you could, like low key, like just do a tour lokey I wanted. I mean, I guess straight. I mean, obviously you're doing the music thing on tour,

you're doing clubs and ship. I mean like you could probably want to do like a gorilla weekend in every city, like one, like a three day week and Friday Saturday sunner. When's THEO Comedy show and the other days of pop up shot with the merch? Oh, what's your biggest market outside of New York? Oh? Can you tell these kind

of things? Like yeah, hell yeah, I haven't looked into it recently, but I know that ship really ships every shipped the fucking Japan Australia, even though Australia cut off shipping for during COVID to the freedom fuck you fuck that Canada. Get a lot of Toronto Cali, a lot all over California, though not just La, like the whole

Cali all over big time. Who's been the most random like celebrity outside of the President that has like tapped in with you and like been like on Shack, Shaquille o' neal and he and he d M me and this is right when the big boone happened and he uh, He's like, yo, that big bull shit is fire. He was like, forget the cashphrase the song. And I was like, I tried to catch him. I was like, Yo, Shack, I know you got balls, bro. I'm gonna send you the beat. Let's do it. Let's do what. He sent

me a video reply in the DM. I think I posted it. I don't post dms, but I was like, yo, this is he was like in Shack. He was like yo. He was like, I ain't fucking with you right now. He's like, yo, you like the Michael Jordan, this rap shit man, he's over here being corporate. He was shooting a commercial. I was like, yo, Shaq calling me the Michael Jordan of rap is crazy and he was like, yo, I can't fuck with you right now. I'm trying to

get this corporate money. He's the best basketball rapper ever. I think I haven't heard Dame. Well, you know what I forget about Dame Dame is pretty pretty easy. I haven't heard I heard him like Dame solid? Is he? Yeah, he's solid. But Shaq was like he has joints with the Rizzo. But that Shack got a song with jay Z and Nas at the same time. Now they weren't because everybody always used to talk about during the jay Z nasby that they never worked together. But no, no, no,

I forgot about that Neil song. I doubt it's like Mike Geronimo. He got jay Z, d m X and job Rule on his on his like album Back in the days, was Mike Geronimo a part of that Cipher video with Big Pun and Mos Cannabis. Yeah right, Mike was there and what's his name from the food Jesus? He was? That was good John Forte, John Forte who caught a crazy fat case and then got pardoned. He got partoned by Yeah, the fucking it was crazy about John Forte. I think he had liquid cocaine on him

at the airport. I don't even think it was normal. He tapped them. We got him a fucking pardon from Bush, not even Obama or Trump, which would be I could see Obama because you know Obama's for the hood, you know he Trump is just like who's paying I figured it he got Kodak out. I was hoping that he would have got the tire king fucking guy out. Just today, was like, Nah, this guy's like me. I ain't fucking

with this guy. Yeah, he got the factory part in Kodak Black is crazy and a little Wayne and Wayne. The Kodak Black Ship was special. Do you like as an old head right? Because I'm an old head. I mean, I'm not saying your own yeah, but we're very similar to music. You Are you able to enjoy like some of the young ship and be a young boys ship? Yeah? Kodak. I love Kodak. Yeah me too. I like this ship. Yeah, I listen. I listened to drill Ship New York, the

drill Ship. I can handle some of the drill ships. Same to me and Mike. I don't tap in with who they beefing with or I don't give a yeah. Yeah, I don't pay attention to none of that it's so much of that shit, but it's like his own version of la yeah yeah yeah, the drill politics or the absolutely so right now in New York on the radio and the clubs and the strip clubs, the drill ship,

Yeah taking over. It's like completely So it's kind of like impossible to not fuck with it because when the girl is shaking, I asked in front of you, and she loves the song and shaking better when you start liking the fucking song, you know what I'm saying, and I fuck with like I went out there and I think I had hit you. When I was in New York. This was before the big BONNK shit. When I was out there, I was shooting in Canarsi with Dusty Locane and a bunch of them dudes, and that's when I

really got educated to all the beef. That's what they do is beef. Jesus's crazy. I was like dive into a YouTube wormhole. It's between like the Drill Beef Ship, the Brooklyn and the Bronx shit, and then Jacksonville. There's like YouTube wormholes galore where you could just be like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah, it's crazy because like I didn't like I was like talking to like one of these guys. I was like yeah, I was like, yeah,

I was listening to the twenty two g's guy. He's hard and I didn't realize that, like they're like death involved in like these two guys and and uh they had to stop me and be like yo yo, just so you know that stops or whatever. I'm like, ship, Yeah, it's crazy. It's like, yeah, thats what happens when I come out here, my guy over there, he'll be telling me, oh, this is this is over so yeah, I don't be knowing either. Yeah, but the music is cool, so it's cool.

Some of it saying you know, this is just like everything else, just like everything else. You know what I'm sucking with. I'm sucking with the UK Ship, the Grime, the Drill Ship. Yeah, before the Drill was the Grime. The Grime Ship was like like that grim Ship, though I don't know if it's still popping. There's that Central see you guy who's got the funniest fucking song. I never heard it where it's like I cannot be homophobic, my bitch is gay. I didn't hear that. You've never

heard the song it's it's my ship. I heard he's like hugging my brother's telling me I love him, though I don't swing that way. Yeah, somebody told does your cat that's it's hard with that ship man. Anything else you got going on? Man? Nah, fuck your life, Fuck your life. Yeah, it was. It was super dope. See fat Joe kind of call you the new fad Joe. Crazy. Yeah, crazy fad Joe as well. People don't know one of the most highly disrespectful, just authentic crazy people in hip

hop back in the day. Absolutely see him now and no, no, he's break up. I remember reading like a list of like his alleged incidents on Complex and like, oh wait, I'm like, obviously all alleged, but this guy had it out with what I'm trying to remember. The boxer. Yeah, he's told the story before, which boxer, Oh y u Roy Jones, Roy Jones, they had like a thing at a nightclub because he said to lean back. Even Roy

Jones just lean back. He was, well, listen, man, I appreciate you pulling up, and we're gonna have you do another freestyle because we got some crazy ones together. Absolutely we're running back. Yeah, Gorilla ms fuck your life. Go buy some merch. F y L dot NYC. The merch is crazy. Absolutely, it's always crazy. High level ship. I don't know who this late. Who's at? Ivory Man, the bum on my block? A lovable homeless woman that we all love. She made mad money off these shirts. Shout

out to Ivory. There it is. Everybody eats boom bong