#196 - Lil Flip

greatest in Little Flips world? What you been doing? What you been working on? And you've always got businesses you're starting and all kinds of shit going on, right Yeah, I mean that's that's all I do. Let's see, besides being the owner of Exotic Pop, which is everywhere everywhere, that I'm doing a lot of stuff in the metaverse. I got a concert coming up in the metaverse August fourteenth, and then me and zero we just got done with

Kings of the South Part two. I dropped Flip Madewell of the I got a well, I guess I'll announce it here. I got a show coming where we're going to discover the next big thing like a talent like reality show. Yes, yes, and we want the next you know, like it's always one of ones, but legendary stuff. We're not looking for regional, We're not looking for we want the next stadium filler. What is what is the platform

it'll be on? Well, that's the thing that that's the only thing that we're You're going to film it first and then shop it around or well we we already have things in place already. Yeah. Yeah, man, shout out to King Lee, you know, my business partner. But we got some stuff going. So the metaverse, the apps, the Exotic Pops. How did you get involved with Exotic Pop? Well, the other owner, Charleston, he's from Houston and he grew up on my music. We grew up in the same area.

And he's like, man, I got the soda company thing, I'm doing, what's up? And so I'm like, man, I'm down. And so we just put our heads together and keeling and the cool cup juice and we just been Yeah. Because like any smoke shop you're go into or i mean obviously liquor stores too. They're right because because Exotic Pop quit me from more. You guys are given, like artists their own sodas right correct, right, right right given like other streams of income. We're some of the artists

that have their own soda. I know Mac Dre's got his when I was in the Baby tried it. Yeah, rest Peace, That's one of my favorite ones, the Bubblegum restu piece of mac Dre Man. We did one with Ryb Kardashian. We did one with Drake's dad, twenty one Savage and Metro Boom, and we gave Sauce walking his own water. I got cream soda and I have a

green Apple cool cup juice. Man. There's so many artists, man, but the legends like DJ Screwed, Big Mold, Fat padd like all the legends who are not here, Big Halt. You know, we help their families with the money and each soa that we sell, like on the back of it it sayss like a percentage of it goes to the community. So wherever the artists are from, we do a lot of stuff with the community, with the kids.

And I'm actually putting out a mixtape August fourteen called the Arti Freestyle, where I'm rapping over my favorite Big Mo beats, my favorite Fat Pat beats, so I sat down with Direct, the owner of all these masters, and I'm like, hey, bro, you gotten cleared. Yes, I'm like, bro, I want to wrap on these classic beats and put them out and you know, so we talked about the beers.

But it's crazy, you know, because I feel like the people who came before me, it's on me to make sure while I'm still here that their names live on you know what I mean, because they did so much for me, and you know, nobody knows when we go go, so it's on me. It's on Flip everywhere I go to make sure DJ Screw, PIMC, Big Mo, HOWK Fat Pat, like all these different people that are from where I'm from that we hold to high regard the same way people hold Big and Pop like or even like a

guy like Mac dra and the Bay exactly. So you know, we just we go keep pushing it. How did you initially, because I remember when you came out, the first thing I remember was you having your own cereal with a Leprechaun project, and then obviously it was like, oh shit, there's this guy who's got his own cereal. I was living in Arizona at the time, so I didn't know much about the Houston scene outside of like rap a lot and Scarface and obviously ugk they're from Port Arthur.

But uh, but in terms of like the screwed up shit, just that whole kind of wave, I really didn't get super hip too until you know, it really went commercial and you know, when you and Mike Jones and Paul Wall and everybody had their U their wave. You know, So how did you like initially kind of get into the game and like, I know, like nationally, was that kind of like your first big look the Lepercun shit. Well,

the Lepercun was my first solo album. So the difference is one of the other reasons why I called myself for the Mayweather is because I'm born into music, just like he was born into boxing. So a lot of artists they started rapping and doing music as you know, fifteen high school. You know, like if you're born in my house, you doing music, gotcha? So I already knew the industry. I sunk in the choir, wrapped the Italian shows, used to rap, battle, played the piano, drums, learning the guitar,

was in film, acting class, etiquette, class media training. So I was already ready for the industry Man and the lepercun I put that out after I did a group album called h and See what stands for Hustler stacking Ins. But prior to that, I had a few other groups that I was in that I started, and man, I just knew if I had a person like j Prince and rap a Lot by the way, free Larry Hoover, you did ye, Like if I had somebody like that as my mentor in my same city to study the blueprint.

So I just sit back, like, okay, just the way you you market yourself, just the way you don't take no for a answer. This is the way you invest in your own money and time. You do it your way. So seeing them come through, you know, clubs and come through the neighborhoods, in the in the Double Lords and the Roads Russes. Like since I was young and watched Richie rich I already knew Rose Russes was for me right tall on me somewhere. I don't know the Double

Lords right here, hellogo. But so I had the perfect blueprint to watch out rap a Lot, you know, like this man had a car a lot and then turned it into like music business and you know, had to get our boys everywhere and just different artists and putting out these albums and coming to car shows displaying all their cars and showing up to the shows fifty deep, everybody all and black. Like it was just like a

big thing. So I basically was a sponge being able to balance what I learned from my family, my dad, my grandparents, my mom, and then DJ Screw then it was like I was learning from Jay Prince as well. So we put out the HSSE album, put that out, Rest in Peace to Jason he died. He's on HSC album, my high school homie. And then after that, well, when we put it out, fans was like, man, we wanted to flip solo album. Why would you put the group

out and you're the hottest thing in the streets. But I've always been with them people that like to try to bring people with me, you know what I mean. That was how I was raised, Like if you have more than the next person, hey, I'm not gonna sit it, eat the stake and you don't have nothing, I just cut my shit in half and give you half of my stake. Like that's the type of person I am, And so I did that and that was one of the best decisions because it allowed me to record the

Leperate Cunt album. And what happened the first album we put out, the group album HSC. We did pretty cool, you know what I mean. But it was so many people on the label, the amount of money that it was making, and then I'm the marquee artist. It just wasn't enough, right, and everybody wants to see me, right, So it's like I'm like, but I still want my

guys like with me, you know what I mean. So the Leperate Cunt album, I wrote half of it in my freestyle half of it and half of that album, like I was like literally still in the trap with my homie Task resting piece of Task, that's my guy, Like literally making the album, making plays, you know in the front room, you know, with the shotgun, you know, in the front room with the Nato the ak, like literally making plays and in between playing you know, PLAYSTATIONE

and and writing raps and constructing my Lepercun album. So I was able to really have fun and I can do that. It was the single we put that ship out. It did crazy? Did that come out on wrap a Lot? No? Yeah, I partnered up with a guy named Hump and we we we well. Sucker Free was like a concert. It was entertainment company at first, and I partnered up with him because he was one of my childhood I remember that. I remember the Yeah, so my dad. He was one

of my dad's childhood friends. And I'm like, all right, hey, let's turn it to a record label. You be the CEO, I'd be the CEO. And so we put it out, did well independent and a lot of people don't know when you put out a double album and it counts right, so like people like you know, Pock and Biggie when they you know, they go down, but it counts to it counts its too. So eight Ball, you know, one

of my trip, yeah, the triple album come Lost. So I'm like, damn all, he got to sell us one third of half a meal and he's gold you know what I mean, Yeah, you know, to get the gold plaquet. Yeah. So it's like and it ended up selling you know, a million plus, so he ended up going triple platinum. A lot of people don't know eight Ball Lost is like triple platinum. That's yeah. So and in my mind I'm like, hey, I'm a I'm a sponge, So I

studied rap a lot, I studied swave house. I study everything, and then I implement my own, you know, final version of what I've learned from everybody put that shit out. So a lot of record was doing mixtape, a lot of records mixtape mixtapes pulling out. Everybody was like, why are you rapping on these beats and putting them out? You should focus on real stuff. I'm like, Nah, this is what DJ Screw taught me, this is where I

come from. So people started seeing. We would pull up the towns and we picking up show money, and hell, I'm picking up mixtape money. The mixtape money, hell, at times was two times more than the show money. So I'm dropping off boxes five. You're just like dropping off at the local spots. Music Mania was a spot in Austin, crazy place. It was record store, Yes, bro, right next to active athlete, and Bro, I pull up cash out fifteen K here, twenty K here, damn yeah, come back

to Austin three months later. By that time, I got a new mixtape out repeat. So I had a place in Austin, a place in Dallas, t Time Music, a place in Tyler. Wow. Those were like my main three hubs of where I knew I could go pick up five k here, ten k here, dropping off some products. B It was the easiest shit. And so I'm like, y'all calling me stupid, but y'all wondering how I'm selling all these records and how everybody wants to see me

is because I'm just giving this shit away. Sometimes we were selling them as well, so like at the to the retail people, I would selling them to them, but at the concepts, I would give them away right that. It's crazy. Hey, those are the good old days though, man. Yeah, when you could sell so you could just pull up and have like a relationship with the owner of a record store and you know he believe in what you're doing,

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I'm one of them people like this bro. I'm like, I'm not a stuck in my ways type of king, right I hustle, the dinosaur way, the modern way, and the future way. So it I mean, I love it. I just embrace it. I still press up my physical copies and my wax for the DJs that like wax and wax sales for pretty good money these days. So yeah,

people still buy vinyl. It's like almost like as a collector, they'd almost rather buy the vinyl than the CD because it feels like there's people buying vinyl don't even have a turned able to play it on the agreed agreed, And so yeah, that's that's where I'm at. And then like the things with the streams, you know, like like I say, the only downfall to the stream you know, like I'm not I'm not one of the OG haters, Like uh, I'm like I fuck with the new cats,

the new artists. You know. My only concern with the streams is like this, how I compare it? Right? I compared a stream to this. You know how back in the days, you could go to a music store and listen to a whole album, right, you can chamit whatever whatever. If you didn't buy it, you didn't get that sale, right, Like the artists didn't get that sale. So if you go to a car lot and you test drive a

car and you don't buy it. The guy who's selling the car doesn't get credit for you test driving the car. He gets credit for yourself. So just the way that they converted to like you have this many streams, this means you're a platinum, but a sample to me is still it's like you can't lower the goal post. It's

how I look at it, no matter what, no matter what. Right, like any other business, if you sell pizza, if you only sell twenty pizzas, man, you only sold twenty pizzas well, if you think about it, like with the playlist world, it's like you might throw a new playlist on that Spotify feed you whether it's like rap Caaba or whatever, and even if the song plays for thirty seconds, you don't fuck with you hit next on the playlist still counts as a stream, right, So it's it's like a

sometimes a person that's able to be like, oh yeah, I went flatten them. I got this many streams, and it creates a big head. Also, like you'll really know if it's working if you can sell hard tickets. Correct, because there's a lot of these artists who stream big numbers, but they can't go on tour. Yeah. So it's so it's so like I'm like on the fence with like just like one hundred percent, Like, oh, I love it.

Like it's dope that people all around the world can hear your music from the push up of button and you can also upload ship exactly button, so it's coxactly. Back in the day, you had to go press up CDs, find distribution right to get like your ship all over the country in a record store. Agreed, man, So now it's like I just hit it. There's no middle man. Yeah. So like I embraced it. I'm one of them people.

I adapt. Man, what's going on? You know? Plex? Like I love I love like in my house and my studios, I got PLEX and stuff on the wall that just inspires me. Man, you know what I mean? So I fuck with this setup? Man? You uh, the first like, like I guess you're kind of coming out party, would you say, would be like underground legend in terms of just like commercially national correct? What was it was? Game over on that game Over was on the next album. Right,

you gotta feel me? The way we ball was the first to feel me was crazy this is the way. Yeah, I forgot about the way one video multi platinum off one video. That's fucking crazy because was that a double album? Yeah? All my albums a double albums. I remember it most of the time. What was the album where you were like kind of like in black on the cover it

came out The Game Over remix was on there. I want to say, mind that shit was there was a record on there, fuck that I loved because I know that like that was kind of there wasn't like a super smash on that album, was there. I wouldn't say it was a super sm There was a record on

that project that I fucking loved. Yeah, it was like I think I put what it Do was on there with many fresh and yeah we put we put a little money behind it, but we didn't go in mind there was a couple of records on there that I loved, and that was a part right there. I was actually like transitioning leaving the label. So one That's why it's like a version where it's one cover of me standing in front of black and then it's one version when I went to one of the brothers, I'm holding some

money or some quick shit. I didn't really like that cover, but I put on the cover Free Zero, So that's what I was pushing, you know, so welcome home Zero. He been home for me for a while. Yeah yeah, but I that They were like, you're gonna put free Somebody on your album cover. I'm like, yeah, this is yeah, yeah, well this was Sony No, no, no, this was Warner. This was one of just one person. One person asked me, and I was like, yeah, like it's not a mixed listen.

I know what I'm doing. Like see, I never let a person like tell me what I can I can't do, especially when it comes to art. I'm one of those people though, I will listen to your opinion, like I will listen. I'm like, I'm a That doesn't mean I have to take it, but I will acknowledge it and if it makes sense to me. I'm a rock with and that's how I got open to input, helping information.

That's how I got where I'm at. Yo. There was a period of time where you were popping up on a lot of June radio shit the mixtapes back in the day. Was there ever any conversations where fifty was trying to sign you to JUnit Man, me and fifty We talked about doing some business a few times. It never like happened, like I think, mainly due to like

scheduling and stuff. But we didn't specifically talk like I'm signing to because see, no matter if I'm on TV or not, like I'm I came in this industry as a CEO, So if I would ever do a deal with another artist, it would be a joint picture. It would be a partnership. I'll never ever be under anybody and never have every album I ever put out. I was a CEO, so I was already taught as a kid. Come in a game of ceo, be an artist. Don't let people tell you, Oh, you should just focus on

the music part and let us talk for you. And know that's how you get robbed. That's how lawyers put bruh. That's how lawyers man finess you out of bread, especially the lawyers that like are suggested to you by the people you're signing to. Oh you don't have a good lawyer, We got one for you, yeah, bro, the motherfuckers. So I'm gonna talk for myself. I get to done. I get the deal done way quicker when I talk for myself.

Did you ever have a situation where you got into a shitty deal like early on, like whether it was the Sony or the Warner situation, because back in the day, those major label deals were fucking treacherous. Thank you. I never got into a shitty deal. I've been in some deals where I got what I wanted or got what I asked for it, but I looked out for somebody out of what I got, only to find out later that they had got a separate bag for themselves as well.

So they dipped in the pay, they double dip, But I still got what I want because at the end of the day, I think like a hustler. I get paid to talk, seen make words, rhyme, come up with witty shit, make a motherfucker say wow. It's people that talk all day, don't that don't get paid for it. So I look at it like this, br Any amount of money that a motherfucker go pay me just a talk is a win. Now, when we go to my accolades and what I've accomplished, I know how to find

the medium of I know how to negotiate. My dad was a master car salesman, so I know how to play a s I know how to play a wolf because at the end of the day, I'm a hustler. So at the end of the day, almost any amount of money that's respectful, respectable, it's not getting fucked over, you see what I'm saying. But yeah, I've always known how to speak my mind because I grew up around older people. I'm I'm the youngest and the screwed up Click.

But I'm not afraid to speak my mind. If a OG or somebody did something to me that I felt like they slighted me and it was wrong, I'm gonna address it now. I know how to approach it respectful. You see what I'm saying. I'm not a reckless you know, g and no shit like that. But I'm not afraid to speak my mind. And I'm a very honorable person. When being from screwed up Click, and I kind of feel like you were a little bit ahead, slightly ahead of the of the of the kind of like h

town national craze. I kind of feel like you were like probably the first dude in that class of like of your peers that really popped correct. I'm talking like obviously, you know, the millionaires of Paul Walls, you were kind of first. I was first, Yeah, I was. I was

the first person like out of that wave. You know, we had LaTroy he went platinum rightly in terms of just the I feel like era, yeah, yeah, but I was just saying, you know, yeah, we had that like right before like the ship started going on, you know. But yeah, yeah, definitely, I was. I was first. Was there ever any Was there ever any like because Swisher House had kind of you know, uh, Michael five thousand

wats was chopping and screwing ship as well? Was there ever any sort of static between the screwed up ship and the Swisher House ship? It was? Well? And it like because obviously everyone ends up on that Source cover, right, which was a crazy cover right right, the don't mess

with textics. Everybody and their mom was on that cover, right, But uh did that like like like, what was what was like your take on like seeing Swisher House come out and kind of obviously, you know, DJ screw started chopping and screwing shit, but it also was like a Houston thing as much as it was his thing that he created, you know, but what what was your take on the Swisher House movement? You know, kind of being

on the other side of things. I'm in a screwed up click, so like I'm an understandable person, you know what I mean. So a lot of members was like, oh shit, what is that? What's going on? That're doing what we're doing? And my whole take, I just felt like, hey man, we inspired some people to do what they do, you know what I mean. So I didn't look at it, you know like some of the other members looked at it.

You know, you had some people that was like they didn't like it, and you had some people that was like, hey man, shit, they expressing theyself. They they want to you know what I mean. We motivated some people to you know what I mean. So that's how I always looked at it, and that's one of the reasons I'm the first person outter screwed up Click to go do a freestyle on the Swisher House tape. Mmm, so I got clap. My My biggest freestyle is on a Swisher

House tape. Which freestyle was that it's a mixtape called IR forty five and it's a record like we blow in. Though I might be on jaylen h they be like, Phlip, can you listen to my demo, I say, nine Nigga, I got shows to do after the concert. I got hoes to screw, like that's a classic freestyle. That's like, motherfucker, scream that shit like word for word. And so I

was always going over there. I got family that's on the north side, so in the midst of the North Side and South Side, Beef, I was always on the north side anyway, like because I don't I don't at the end of the day, the way I feel we Houston, right, I mean, at the end of the day, it's about unity for me. So you know, Yeah, my biggest freestyle is on the Swish House tape. That's crazy and I'm in a screwed up click. What can you tell us about that Source magazine cover? Was everyone there at the

same time? Yep? What was that? Like? It was a great day. I played dumb one of us with Jay Prince seeing you and uh we was on the ranch. You know, that was one of the inspirations to me, you know, buying a ranch and cattle. So just being on the ranch and hearing about the ranch and just being there and what was on that covers? Rose Slim, Paul, Pimps, Bun by, which was random. But I don't think he was on the cover. I think he was on the inside.

You had to open it, yeah, okay, because it was it was the cover was like one of those fold out fo damn. But I remember him being there, yeah, because like the ones I got, I got. I still got some copies of that in my studio, But that particular one, I don't think. Maybe he was on the inside. Maybe I don't remember. Yeah, I think it was the inside. But but yeah, everybody was there, bro. It was a cold day. That's why I had on the fur. It was a cold ass fucking day. And some kind of

like past the mic freestyle that same day too. It was cool, man, I mean it was cold. Was this probably the last day that all those people were together all at once? Huh man when you put it like that. Probably so it's a lot of people to get Yeah, probably so because we lost PMC long lived PEMPS. Yeah, smoke some bitch and memory of PMC. Yeah, that was a That was a big moment because I just encapsulated just kind of the movement that was going on at

the time. Definitely. Uh, why do you think that movement didn't have a lot of longevity commercially, because it felt like there was like a three or four year window where it was like it and then it kind of just started to you know, I don't know if it was g unit, you know, running with shit, or it just just hip hop kind of shifted, shifted, right, I know. Part of the reason is what's the word evolving? Right? Every coast, every time has their own lingo, their own

slang words that they say, things that they do. So for us, you know, the candy paint, the double cups, the diamond teeth, that's us, right, that's our culture, like we live, it's in us. It's not a fad for us, right. So for the rest of the country, right, Yeah, to some up, yeah, they thought it was a fad, and so everybody started getting grills where they're talking, you know, funny can't really talk and just you know, double cups,

all this stuff that we started. And so man, it's just like some people didn't want to keep hearing about candy paint, popping trunks, grills, you know what I mean. And then at the same time, some artists like, okay, if you make a record that's about a certain topic, right, and it goes you know, gold or whatever the case may be. Pretty you know, plenty of fanfare. You're gonna replicate that, people are gonna be in your ear. You

need another one one of those. So then you go back in the studio and you try to make another one of those. Right, So it's like you probably on your head like we need another Sunshine right right, and me I'm just like listen, I'm gonna create. It has to happen. Argain. Did they ever try to force you into do a Shawnte record back then, like a record with her because Sunshine was so big, like at the same time, like as on like you know everything. They didn't.

They never forced a Shanty record. I was able to do one with Beyonce. I did a Naughty Girl. You did the Naughty Girl. Oh my god, I forgot about that. And then I did a remix with Kelly Rowland King Nobody and I hate the record and do what it should it did. I forgot about Naughty Girl. What's that like? Getting a call from Beyonce? Man, it's dope. I mean it was like they actually performed like my single off

of the Leperchun I can do that. They actually performed there like in Houston at like a big show back in the day, Like I forgot what arena. I don't know if it was the felt she's always paying homage when she can, you know, to this day, no, till his day, till his day. Yeah, but now that was a dope adult moment. And then she called me out the blaue and was like, hey, I want to ship

you some of this Ivory Park. So I got this big box of ivy big Adida's box delivered and a letter and you know that was dope and we were label made, so it was It's cool. So thank you for the clothes, missus Nose, Thanks for the closed Missnose. There it is, I should I say respectfully, Miss it's card. I don't know. Did she take the name? I don't know, but you know you got to show. Yeah, you know, hey, I don't want to dive into the t I thing

because you've talked about it to the death. But I just I never remember what was the origin of your guys' issue back in the day. I gotta I got a song with Easy to Block Captain car how many times it's on his album? Heremothy and Timothy. By the way, everyone's saying that. Now, yeah, and how many times y'all go ask me about this? There it is, he said, go listen to it, he will. What hell, we gotta interrupt the interview real quick to tell you about our

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the song it dresses it. Yeah. Yeah, like my verse sto is off. Look, I don't want to talk about the street snow mo, and I don't want to talk about the beef no Mo. Dudes, do some on my hip or you can meet fau Fo. You go to war with a Vampire teeth, got show, you know? But anyway, what was the question again? I just that was the perfect moment for me to for your Yeah, and then you use this clip and no, I was just I was just curious, like like the initial just kind of conflict,

like what what did it? What was the origin of it? It was some petty stuff. Like me and him, we actually have each other number. We probably text and uh we talked about me coming on his podcast and him coming on mine. So we go, we go schedule. Yeah, yeah, so we we go scheduling where we're filming both at the same time. So we talked, We had dialogue on it.

But what I will say, like, it was really super petty, and it was something that I tried to nipping the bud before it spiraled out of control, you know what I mean, because you know, I know how things can get out of hand. So I'm just glad that Jay Prince, being a o G that he is, decided to step in and say, you know what, like, I can't let two youngsters, you know what I'm saying, young kids from the South. Yeah, two kings. And at the end of the day, we both talked about it, laughed about it,

and he was like the movie. Yeah, he was like, man, we was kids, so you know, it's it's all to the g. But it was petty and I've moved past it. Man, that's beautiful. Man. Yeah, you and Zero this is your So you guys have two joint projects. We did Kings of the South Part one and Part two is coming or Part two is coming, Yeah, and part two is just like music. Like Kings of the South one, we was in a different mode back then. It was you know,

a lot going up. But part two of the fans keep asking because he's the King of the ghetto and I'm the freestyle king, you know what I mean. So, and that's one of the big things even with my movie I'm working on, It's Kyle King Life. It's about like people fighting for that one spot. But if you really go back to back in the days, like it was multiple kings, King ruled this area and this radio of course of course, right, so we're so competitive and hip hop and then not you know where we come from.

You want to be the number one guy, you know what I mean, But you can bet the number one guy in your section you can beat. So that's what my movie is about, like people coming together. You know, everybody want that number one spot, but hey, we all can be number one. Do you think zero gets enough flowers in terms of just like I feel like somehow like he obviously being incarcerated during a lot of that era of h Town but like in terms of just

like his ability as an artist. You know, he's obviously a legend in your city, and I just feel like he never probably got his his flowers nationally that he probably deserves. I don't feel like they play zero music like they need to, right, you know what I mean, unless you go to Houston and they played, but they played.

You know, his fan base is crazy. You know, he's got a crazy and I fel feel like they go see That's why that was one of the main things why it was so important for me to put Free Him on my cover because a lot of times, you know, it's a stigma of when you get this major deal the record label, you know they change you, and you know you sell your soul. I believe in God, so I'm not gonna compromise my manhood, my integrity, my morals,

my principles for no money. So that's why all my deals, I was able to do what I wanted to do, even with the g Unit mixtapes. She was asking how I get on that, because when I came to New York, I was saying, if I want to take over New York, I need to wrap next to the great. So I was with Dipset on all the cam mixtapes doing records,

I'm with g Unit. Buck was already my homie who kid putting me on mixtapes and stuff like that, so I had to go in, like y'all want, I'm gonna show you that it's some people from Houston that don't just wrap up by popping trunks and candy paint. I rap about that shit as well, but I know how to limit how much I talk about that because I'm thinking worldwide. But back to Zero, I just wanted to

go into that g Unit. How did I end up on the mixtapes because I knew I needed to rap next to the greats and showed them that somebody in Texas can rap as well, you know what I mean? And so but yeah, with Zero man, that dude, bro. When we get in the studio, our vibe is like me and my cousin, Big Shasta, Me and Big t rest In Piece. Big t He's the one who sung the hook to want to be a bottle he died.

So those are the three people that when I get in the studio, it's like, you know what I mean, Magic, you know what I mean? All that, Like we just get we get it in and his hooks and and the way he constructed his melodies. He was actually the first you know rapper really you know, singing and rapping. You know what I mean, you know, shout out to him. Yeah, yo, I feel like some did somebody just try sampling Sunshine or just put out like a remix, like a new

verse version of it. Am I tripping? Man, it's funny. It's funny. It's funny. You said that because I'm trying not to give away. But okay, so look, or maybe someone played me a sampled version of it that isn't out yet or something. I just feel like it's about time somebody tries to put remake Sunshine. Bruh. It's crazy. So it's a two way part to that story. I'm not gonna say who the artist is, but okay. So on the way out here though, I got a d M and artist hit me and it was like hey man,

I remade, well what's your information? You know what's going on? O G And we exchange information. Then he called I text. I text like hey, this meet like me. Then he called you know what I'm saying, I just gave the gender. Huh yeah, yeah, he called it's a guy. It's a guy. So he hit me up and he was like, man, I remade you know the record, Sunshine flipped it and he was like, I gotta let you hear it. And we talked a little business or whatever. Major artists, like

a major label artist rather major major. Yeah yeah, yeah, major, yeah yeah. It's crazy part one of his plaques and his motherfucker. But I'll tell you off the air. I can tell you what it is, but we'll make this a bet if you can get if you can guess, Nope, it's not y G Nope. So look, you owe me, You owe me seven grams of some zaz I. Damn. I feel like someone played me. I feel like somebody played me a record. And I was like, oh something, it's about time someone flipped it. And it's so crazy

to peep this though. That happened the other day now, a year ago. Another artist was working on the project and hit me and his producer was like, Hey, that's such a great record. And you know what's crazy about that record is it's like, to this day, it still is such a great gold record that radio stations have to play because it's it's like just one of those ones is like, it's never gonna go away, and I love when it come on the way it possessed ladies

and stuff. But the other artist, it be like a year ago his producing I actually had recorded a verse on that version. So it's two artists that contacted me to do with the other one. I don't know, it didn't come out or whatever whatever. But yo, so let me ask you this. You're involved in the metaverse. Obviously, the crypto shit just crashed pretty crazy. NFTs are crashing like crazy right now. Yea, what is your like thoughts because like, obviously somebody like Snoop Dogg, who's murdering it

right now? Right I can't even listen to Doggie Style on Spotify anymore. You got to go buy the NFT man. I don't even know how to buy a fucking NFC man. But what are your thoughts just on the whole metaverse? And like, is there a way to to take advantage of it as an artist without worrying about whether or not that n FT market crashes or like, Because obviously crypto, NFT metaverse they all kind of go hand in hand,

but they're also very separate. Because I can go home and throw on my oculas and play a game in the metaverse and it's not the same thing as you know, so you're obviously doing concerts. You're right, You're you're involved in the metaverse shit like correct, talk about your involvement

in that and just your thoughts on that whole shit. Well, see, a lot of times the communities, they have a problem when a person tries to like, you know, take advantage of that when you try to use So I believe in using the word like utilize, right, and then I believe in reaching my people. So I'm a pain that

paint art. Yeah, I do shoes, skateboards, hats. I draw like my jery and my test you know, I mean I draw so so like when it comes to art and our people, and you know the percent of people that are labeled weird because we might throw on a green shirt with a orange pair of pans, right, and to the average eye, they'll be like, that doesn't match. But when you elevate to a certain level of being fly, if you look in the mirror and you like that shit,

that's all that fucking matters. Right, So everybody has to do something one time to become a trend, right, so the metaverse and just the people that I'm still able to interact with that are fans and that you know that are higher thinkers, people that are looking at life from a different angle. They usually buy into people that

are like them. Right, And when you have a brand and you're able to always show the promoter or the artists or the fan people that spend money with me or show that they support me, I always go out my way to be like, thank you, I'm gonna take that extra pitchure, I'm gonna give you anxiety pop, I'm gonna do you know whatever the fuck just because you told me my music got you through this and that so I show fans and people love so people that are there wherever my fans are or wherever there are

people who strive to surround themselves with great people and make money and leave generation of well behind for their

family and not be on some dumb shit. Not easily easily, you know, swathe, you know, like I'm creating stuff for people that are thinkers and coming up with different ways that people who want to be involved in the music industry should invest in other artists, Like I'm working on some other apps that's going to actually help a lot of artists get investors and have people around the world

to be able to have stake in certain things. Well, that's smart because I always I always Because there's a guy named Larussell out of Vallejo, California, so he's doing something similar for his music. He's like, Yo, if you you can invest in this song and I give you

a chunk of it from distro kid. Right. So I feel like for up and coming artists, if someone believes in you and if there's a place you could point them to be like, yo, you can go purchase a stake in whatever this album is or whatever, and you can help bankroll what I'm trying to do with it. You know what I'm saying. I think that that's that's a platform that's missing. Yeah, for independent especially for independent artists.

Hey man, I'm one of them type of people. But like, I want to leave music in better shape, in business, in better shape than it was before I came. Right, Like, so, if you think about the era that came before me and the way their contracts were, some of them still be stres and some of them still suck the contracts contracts stone right, And then think about the artists that came out before them, the people in the fifties and

when they were getting paid one penny. It's crazy, and you know, but the cost of living was way lower, but still it was crazy. It's still crazy. Wow. So now the era that came after me, in the era the artists, they're making a whole bunch of money at

a faster rate, you know what I mean. So, you know, money management and just it's a lot of different things that you know, these artists should do and learn to do with their money, and learn how to treat people with more respect because you never know when you're gonna see the same people coming down if you come down though, Yeah, that's real, yo. Man, Houston's obviously in a great place now two of the biggest artists in the fucking world

of Travis and Meghan. How do you feel like, uh, just the scene locally is doing right now outside of those two because obviously they're fucking out of here. But just like in terms of just like the underground scene, I guess, man, I mean, you got as far as like newer artists, you got you know, South sotwalkers killing it. You got pro pain has been dope for a while too. Yep, you got Max O Cream just put out a crazy record with Benning the Butcher, so I'm trying not to leave.

You got Toby. I don't know how to pronounce his last name, so I always fuck his name up too, so just be He's incredible. Yeah, it's talent out there. Man, It's a lot of youngs. It's O M. B. Blood Bad, a lady named Lady Ices. She's on the Freshman cover. So it's like a it's a lot of artists. Man,

I don't want to forget. It's crazy too because now like I feel like Houston without even I don't feel like we acknowledge Houston is like one of the big cities still, like right now if you really look at like who's popping and hip hop like Houston is like and also people love to go to Houston and record. Houston is like a place people really enjoyed it just oh yeah, yeah yeah. Not a lot of the artists they come out. I know people who just who moved there.

Like a lot of people just live there because there's no state tax. The food's good, clubs are amazing. Property property is not too crazy. Oh yeah, now that's where you we play Monopoly out there, Twelopoli board game. Like bro, we that's why we love it where we're at. Yeah we can, we don't. Yeah, we don't never have to leave. If we never, you know, wanted to leave, we would

be kind of in the middle of everything. Quick flights Atlanta, Quick flight to La Yeah, the hug Man and when y'all do go to Houston, When y'all do go to Houston, Turkey leg hut, get the Alfredo. Is that your spot? Now that's my homie Lynn and his wife. What Turkey leg hut? Yes, Hey, get the Alfred of the shrimp Alfredo Turkey leg with the rice. That sounds amazing, like it's like stuffed and man, now I'm hungry. Oh yeah, I am too, as soon as I get done with this.

But there it is. Look little flip new music coming, Oh yeah, all the freestyle three, coming to the freestyle three. We're gonna get to some freestyling. Oh yeah. August nineteenth man for YouTube video definitely. Then after that I'm dropping funds and filip and then you know, me and zero we got kings in the South part too. On tonight videos out right now doing numbers. Check it out. Flipp and zero f A Lovey f A The Homies. Yes, sir F is a good guy man. He did, let's get it.