#194 - Saucy Santana

homophobian hip hop's starting to fade away a little bit? Yeah? I feel like gay is regular, like kind of like now even when you watch your when you watch TV, gays everywhere. It's almost on every TV show is something gay, every everything that you like, you know what I'm saying. It's just like it's becoming normal. It's becoming normal. So I think people are just kind of like it is

what it is. Yeah. I've got into arguments with people who are like, you know, you know, shout out to a guy like Boozie who's obviously says some offensive things at times. But I feel like, you know, there's like this misconception that like watching a buzz light Year and they're being the same sex kiss can make kids gay, And I'm like, yo, this is like people are born this way. This isn't like something like forty five years

in the life. You just decide. Man, I've been watching a lot of Will and Grace, So I'm gonna go dip my toe into that part. Like how do you feel about like just that. I don't think that. I don't necessarily think that watching that kind of stuff. I mean, you know, for me, I feel like kids are sensitive. So I get the argument of it because there's certain things that I don't let my little sister watching, certain things. I don't let my god kids, you know, be up.

You wouldn't, but you also wouldn't let them watch like straight people like doing crazy shit. You're not gonna You're not gonna watch no adult movies or you're not gonna watch you know what I'm saying, you know, people having sex on TV, like it's everything. I'm just gonna I'm gonna censor you as a child. I'm not gonna necessarily make it about you know, sex, I even or you know, gay things on the tab. I even have a lot of cousins, Like I grew up with a lot of

my cousins that are my age. We grew up like brothers and sister. So I called their sons my nephews. They my nephews. They see me nails, lashes, perse all that, and they like, you know, of course, okay, he's different, but you know, I'm still outside of him. We're playing football, I'm still you know what I'm saying, were playing baseball. I'm like, hey, you know, you're a boy. You don't

do that, like you know what I'm saying. So it's just like that don't just because they see me, that don't mean like, oh, you know, Uncle Santana got nails on, That's what I'm gonna do. You're still a boy. You're still doing your own thing. So you can't really try to pin that on kids like oh they're seeing this, that's what they're gonna do. Right. How old were you when you came out? Seventeen seventeen, so that's pretty like deep into high school years. Yep, seventeen, I was a

junior junior high school. Was it like pretty evident that you were like yeah, you know what I mean? I mean, like, you know, you kind of see that growing up and different things like that. But just as seventeen, I was like, man, I'm beIN. I graduate high school at seventeenes so I was like, man, graduate so you were super smart, I'm outside. Yeah, you were getting a head on credits. Well, no, my birthday is in October. Oh you had one of those

weird birthday. Yeah, we're birthdays. So I was seventeen. Everybody was eighteen when we graduated. I couldn't even go to the club. Yeah, there was eighteen up clubs in Florida. Gotta be crazy, man, Nothing like a Florida strip club. Nothing like it. The office, oh my god in Miami. Great place, small place, but a great place, great place. It's a great place. They got good food there too, not as good as Toutsies. Well what you know about that lobster tail with the seafood, right, Yes, that was

a big thing. That was what tuty was was no for people, not really that messed up about it, that fucked up about it no more. But that was the big thing to get that sees also like lightweight Tootsies is a brothel. You know what I'm saying. It's you got to catch a vibe if you want to see you can go to Totis ketch a vibe, have some good food, get a massage, and also maybe catch a virus. Yeah for sure. Yeah, there's a lot going on right now with fucking monkey pox. See the video of the

sky on the internet with monkey pox. Nah, but I have been hearing a lot about monkey pox, so I just be like, eh, I be keeping my di's like move Yeah, I see what I mean. But they like it's offensive to touch people right now. Yeah, I don't know, it's it's it's wild. I mean, but you know, I feel like you just got off the tour with Lotto not too long ago. You've been doing some festivals obviously rolling aloud. It's a big look like are you finally you feel like you're kind of coming into your own

as a performer. Uh yeah. Performer for me was always easy. That was the easiest shit to do, you know, on the stage, to turn the fuck up. Yeah. So ever since I speak, like, you know, started getting popping and started booking shows and stuff like that, performer was easy. I think I'm coming more into a performer now because now I don't do clubs, I do a lot of festivals, right, I do a lot of big productions. I about to

do Jimmy Fally so huge. It's huge. So it's like it's different from in the club rapping like fufflot songs right click, and now you got to have dancers and everybody got to hit the steps at the same time. And you gotta. I went from having to entertain a thousand people in the club to have a roll in loud, got a you know, and it's hey, thirty thousand people on the crowd. You're like, it's okay. And you're also entertaining a bunch of people who like just saw you

for the first time. You got it, you know, you gotta, you gotta. So it's like you really got to put on a show because I always wanted even the people that didn't know me to go home, like who is that? I like him? This Booty record with Loto is this record you guys did on tour before tour after tour.

Boody was at the tour after tour, so you guys kind of linked up on the tour I'm assuming became friends refriends prior no friends prie me and a lot of in for instance, nineteen twenty nineteen first out of Oh Shit, Okay, we were signed to the same label, stream Cut, it was an independent label, was signed on it together, and then she went to RCA and now I'm RCA two, so you're both label mates again. Yep, there it is. So did you like come up in the like rap scene in Florida or did you have

to go to Atlanta? My shit just went viral after I Ready to Walking Back a Dog's Your Love for twenty nineteen on SoundCloud. They did a million plays in seven days and it was over shit my life changed. I was just did did you say when you did that record you would like had any intention to take music serious? No? Never. I never dreamed of being a rapper. I never wrote poems. I never did none of that.

Ship my dad used to write when I was a kid, but I always even going through high school, all of my friends used to rap, like my home was in high school to rap, I used always be like, get out of here, like you're not going to be a rapper. You gotta be a little way in to fucking drinking. Somebody happened like that. There's nobody who like looked like you was doing it, So be fair. I also think

you're the first person I know Little nas X is gay. Yeah, but I feel like you're like flamboyant, yes, in a different way. Is that Is that appropriate to say? Yes? Yeah, it's cool because you know when Lana's when we first met Lil Nina's, you know, he was he we didn't know he was Yeah, we didn't know he was just he just had the fucking cowboy record. Yeah, I'm saying I think I'm the first one that came out like

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with my baby? Like wow, a girl said that. Yeah, she was like I seen some like blogs ship like some girl says, I'm she pregnant with my kid? Did you ever? Did you ever dabble in females? Did you ever sleep with a woman? I'm all, like high school, so in high school, you're banging. I had friends, So I only ever had sex with like one girl, like ever in my life. Okay, just to be like, let me try and just to see you give it a shot. Maybe I'm tripping, yeah, like let me see it was

it was right though, it was cool. It was fun. It was fun, but it wasn't fun enough for you to keep going down there, to keep going with it was like okay, like you know what I'm saying. I could I see I see what you got going on? You know what I'm saying. That's another Macaroni fan. This was in high school. Yeah, I was out high school already. I was out of high school. Shout out to you, damn.

I feel like, you know, I feel like we're kind of getting to the point where, like, you know, I feel fifteen twenty years from I just like everyone's gonna be fucking everybody, Like, yeah, I feel like it's going there. Yeah, I know mad gay boys that that was like fucking girls. I know mad like a lot of a lot of niggas that I talked to, like got kids from like you know, previous relationship being in high school and still

being down out and still fucking girls. That kind of like, you know, hey, I'm not gay, like so I don't talk I don't talk to a few niggas. They got kids. That's interesting. They kids be like nineteen years old, like they was fucking you know, girls in high school, girls get pregnant. Niggas got kids. How do you feel like, because I feel like we've we've had a couple of teaching moments in the last year in terms of just like you know, what happened with the baby last year?

Runing loud like I feel like, uh, sometimes we're very quick to like shit on somebody as opposed to like trying to like teach them this new cancel culture. Cancel culture bullshit. It's like trolling is a trend now. So now the world is different. Back then you had to like like you wasn't making no blogs, like we had to reach it in magazines or you know what I'm saying, or space. It was hard. Now now you'll get on

in there and customing on. I cut yours back out on a shape run in three seconds and three seconds. Or you can tweet my picture and say something, say something some dumb shit or some vibral shit. They go viral you all over the blog. So now people feeling like, you know what I'm saying, Not to say that fans are less damn, but it just feel like they're important. Like so they like, oh witch, I know I can. Everyone feel like they got an opinion. That's yeah, And

y'all feel like y'all got leverage. Like people like to feel like they got you by the boss, like oh you said this, say sorry an listen to your music no more. You can't never come back outside like suck a dick, Like are y'all talking about literally literally like you know, it's like because people are not doing things now because they actually care. People are doing things now because like because they're gonna get attention. They're gonna get attention.

Like I got the top comment or oh one hundred people said it down like it's blue hat, So we don't fuck with the blue hat because hudred people said in the comments, we're just gonna being waggoners. I just feel like with a lot of the cancel culture shit, like just in general, like most of the time, it's like a very small amount of people who are on Twitter, dumb people. Like when you meet people in real life,

I suld a god, I just said this. It's like, Yo, most real people don't give a fuck about said this, just said this. That's all minority. Who are I'm saying the cancel culture is in a motherfucking comments. It's in the internet where you meet people in real life, I'd be like, well, where is all the motherfuckers that hate because people they try to come at you fro tweets. Yeah, they just crazy. They do that to everything, everybody, everybody, And it's like my thing is my thing is. I'm

not a I'm a realistic person. I'm not a fake wote person like everybody now is like, oh my god, I can't believe you said this in twenty eleven. Bro, if you wasn't famous, If the same people that's finding our old sweets, if they wasn't famous, let's go in YO two and see what the fuck was you saying? Also, what are you doing with your life where you're digging through someone's timeline back to do it? They do it when you were about to reach like some type of

accomplishment or something. And that's how I said. People now know that I could go dig up a tweet and I could make this go viral, and I could have you being in a laugh and stock or the talk of the whole world right now because we people it's set up to now where like bitch has got you by the balls, like, oh, I can go find his old tweets saying he's gonna get canceled and we're gonna and he's gonna have to sit down and apologize. They feel like they got some kind of power over you now.

So it's not even people's drugs. It's like they get a dopamine hit. Yeah, when they come for people and it works, and it works, and it's like, but you know you have so many people in the world, like, Bro, somebody said shit ten years ago. That's why I loved that Cardi B. Suit. I mean, listen, I don't know that blogger, you know what I'm saying, But I love the fact that Cardi B won that lawsuit. Yeah, because that blogger was saying some funck shit. Yeah, and it's like, yo,

hopefully this kind of helps correct and people. You know, people believe love the negative narrative of things. That's what's best, that's what's more better or fun to believe in them. So when you're saying wow, shit about people or like, you know what I'm saying, Even when people are digging up these old tweets and we do these pr apologies that would make you do guess what, the people still say, fuck you don't believe you. Of course, oh we don't care you. You said that, you meant it, so just

be like whatever. But I go through comments and I see those people, the logical people. That really is like, bro, somebody said some ship ten years ago. Who gives ten years ago was well, you had to have a viral tweet were also ten years ago? Getting canceled wasn't a thing. It was like I'm gonna just say some ill shit

you got. You got on Twitter and talked ship, you got on Twitter, you watched award shows or you watch whatever the fuck, and you've just said wow, crazy shit because back then you really had to have a good tweet. Well you know what I mean. It works crazy too, because they just tried to do that with Glowrilla, and I was like, yo, like she just signed a crazy deal. And I told you, whenever you do an accomplishment, they come, they come like, oh you don't even like, I'm like,

so what ten years ago she probably didn't. Who gives a fuck? She didn't know yo got it? She did. She was a music humor voicing her opinion, voice her opinion, and then five under. But you know what will be so crazy about them old tweets. They will only dig up the negative ones. Ten years ago she probably could have said fuck yo gotty. And then seven years later she probably could have said, YO, gotta the hardest wrapping out right now. But they're not gonna show you that part.

They gonna show you that. Ay, she said fuck yo got it ten years ago, and it's crazy. Me. I gotta ask you a question. I use pause a lot. Do you know what that means? Yeah, because it is that homophobic. No, okay, not to me, Okay, I gotta ask now my guys like, yo, man, yo, I need an extra meat on my sandwich. I just want to make sure, fus, it's not It's not just one thing about gays. Gays are sometimes we're extra sensitive because you know,

just how we're looked at a lot of stuff. You know, gays are kind of you know, throw it to the wayside a considered you know, bottom of the barrel of things, or you know, even when we dealer with you know, men, we consider like you know, soft or you know, different things like that. Gas is always on the defense. But that's not that's not to me, that's not that's not offensive. That's not offensive. No, got to make sure, man, you calling me something crazy outside my name is offensive. But

the pause pause, that's cool. It's cool, okay, But you gotta make sure because I'll be pausing a lot now. I mean I say that like I want to ask you. I'm like, yo, that's me and my brother trade Me and my brother trade tracks. My producer. Like if I would have been like, I want extra, he would have been like hey yo, Like that's our pause, Like hey what or I could be like with my nigga son and my nigga like put his arm around my show. My brother gonna be like hey yo, Like that's how

I pause. So now that's not you're taking. Yeah, currently currently relationship? How long you been in a relationship? My nigga actually just spent the block stuff. He just spent the block. He just spent the block. What's that mean? I mean, I know what's spending the block means, but like in context true relationship, well, you know, we we what's in a relationship last year, you know, and he

came back around hot, right back in the car. Oh shout out to him, and you came back in yeah, absolute, I mean you know yeah, I mean maybe he's all age. I almost just shereed you. I'm sorry, Jesus christ. Uh, you're on the freshman cover. Things are going well, maybe I need to come back around before they get the reason why I really fucked him though, because he ain't

he like you know what I'm saying. Of course he was his accomplishment stuff, but like he just really a real nigga like that that don't that don't make or break me his relationship, like you know what I'm saying, and I'm I'm I'm very observant, so I watched things like that, like you gotta watch my niggas. That's like, oh yeah, he lit, like damn he more lit than last year. Like like that nigga ask you know nothing

from me? Like you know he a good dude. What's what is a romantic gesture that that you have in your pocket? Like like give me like a romantic gesture that you you go to in a relationship. He says, I'm not. I'm not really Like when my wife out by her flowers, it'll be like eleven roses and it totally stole us from the internet and one white rose in the middle, and I'll leave her letter and I'll be like, you represent the right white rose because everybody else.

What's that? It's so funny. He says that I'm not romantic. He's more of a romantic one. Like that niggas brought me two thousand dollars worth of flowers and I was mad, ash like that's a lot of flowers. Yes, but like I'd be mad too if my girl I'd be like many we could have bought. I could have got a now pair shows, I could have got four thousand tacos from Jack in the box. So he mad romantic. Me

I'm more thoughtful. So like his dad passed when he was a kid, and uh it just the anniversary of the death had came up, and so I had just like samm and Alpan, I was like, hey, go get some flowers and balloons, you know, to take to the gray Field dead. Oh wow, So I'm thoughtful. I think I'm romantic. I'm not really romantic, like I'm thought I'm thoughtful. Yo. Who like growing up listening to music? Who was like on your music? Mount Rushmore? Gucci, Man, that's my favorite rapper, Gucci.

Gucci is probably the most I mean arguably most influential guy best A and R and hip hop history. He's got the best of year I think. Ever, So Gucci means on there you got three more swats to fill. Trina shout out to the battlest bitch Jackie Yo. Jackieyo does not get enough love. They don't jam. I lived in Tampa for a few years, but I'm from Phoenix.

But I know Jackie Oh yeah, because I would say Jackie Oo is a Florida thing, Yo, jack Jackie Yo, and two more Uh Nicki Minaj once you know we got in high school, Nikki had all us acting like barbies, especially with me, and were you kind of a barbe? Of course? Well I made I had to. I was still like in high school. I was still like in a closet. So I made all of my homegirls, like everybody had a dress like Nikki and I thoughted as a group, we was called Ken and the Dolls. I

was kidding, they was the dolls. So you made them all dressed like how you kind of wanted to dress. Yeah, I'm living through y'all. So you gotta get the Nicki Minaj bang with the black and pink hair like. I made all of them dressed like barbiees Shi. It was so funny. Are you still a barb? Yeah? Okay, I love Nikki? Still a barb? Who else I listened to growing up? You know? One more we got Nikki Jackie, oh and uh and Gucci? Those are those are? That's

three good ones? Future Future Future the greatest club artists of all time. I remember when Future one thing I love about Gucci Gucci brought out Future Migos all the niggas like all the all them walker, all them down listening to Gucci was throwing them on features way back in the days when we didn't even know who they was. People don't know like even like somebody like the Migos, like he could have signed them if you want to, Yes, Gucci, That's how I got introduced to the Migos. I remember

they I was being sounds with Gucci. Yeah, are you currently like in Atlanta? You still in Florida? Were you at live in Atlanta? How is Atlanta? Like? I've been there? I love it there by the way, It's great Atlanta. I went during the pandemic and it was, you know, from one man, I loved by Atlanta. We ain't we ain't do We didn't believe in the pandemic exactly. That's why I liked it. Everybody can Atlanta cover And then went back home because I've been I've been in there.

I was. I was in l A going crazy and we went to Atlanta for like a week and I was like, this is this is different Atlana was everything was up in the Script club everything, no masks, no nothing like we was outside. It was so funny. I was like, oh my God, this is the only place in the world that's outside. It was amazing. It was lit Atlanta. But you know, I feel like I growed Atlanta a living I'm finn to move to La. La. Will be prepared if a pandemic comes back. Your ass

is gonna be mashed up. Oh trust me. Don't think I ain't keeping my crib in Atlanta. I'll be gone. So you might be moving to La. Everyone moves to La. Yeah, I'm gonna come out here. I got a lot of work care you know. I traveled with a big team, my security go everywhere with me. You know, my road manager, my out of manager, my my brother who is my DJ and producer I can't remember. It's like I got a crew. That's a lot. Yeah, so that's a lot.

You know, your dancers all that. So it's a lot bringing everybody with you, getting all these different hotels and l you know, it'd be like a lot of It's a lot of opportunity, that tip of Like when I first went to Atlanta, it was opportunity to me at the artist I was there. Now now all of my opportunities are here, and you know, you broke I feel like you broke through, and I feel like once you break through, like you at least got to be in

l a little bit more. Yeah, you got to cause you know, stuff is sparta moment here, so you might have somebody hit you and be like yo man on the studio, she said, I pull up. I'm like, oh, I could be the first thing in the morning. I I gotta fly out to Sauni Arabia. Literally when I tell every artist that's like. I got an artist who's from who lives in Missouri and he was in LA for a little bit, but he couldn't afford to stay out here. And I was like, figure it out because

there's opportunities like that pop up last minute. Yes, you're gonna be fucked out of those. You're going to be because like right now, you want to vibe people and being a vibe in a moment. And then they got Mike got a flight the next day, and it's like, all right, I'm gonna spend a block on you. Yeah, but it never ever happens. I swear to god, Nikki DM me one time and was like you in l A. I was like, no, I'm in Atlanta, but I could come.

I could get there, and she was like, Okay, I'm like, dang, I want to watch she asked me because she lives here. Yeah, she lived here, so but I know that. So I'm like, damn, I want to watch Nikki DM. Yeah, so did you get I would have been like I'm in LA. I wasn't, though, so I could lie like fuck Dad, I'd be like, where's the airport? Take me to the airport. Yeah, but it's like now saying and now I say, man, and she like pull up. Now. It's like I'll be there

in four and a half hours. We gotta figure that ship out. Yeah. So it was like I was like, dang, okay, what you gotta do is when you finally get your house, go back to the d MS and say, hey, heads up, I live here now, I live here a shower, and then just send her this clip. Yeah you say you're a bar and you had a whole rap group? Nick? No, no, no, no, you know, but me and Nikki follow each other. Me, Nick, does she know that you had the high school group? Yes? Nikki?

Like Nikki now every kid and the dolls? Yes, Nikki. No, like me, and Nikki is like this like she's the goat, She's the greatest female rapper of all time. Yeah, for shout tell me. Obviously we're in La West. Hollywood is a popping gay area. The clubs there are insane. If you like drive in that area. It's like, it's trust me, I've seen that. I had to perform at we Help right, how was it? It was it? What's the what's the better? See partying gay clubs here Atlanta? I feel like they're

way different Atlanta. But I'm not really heavy in gay clubs like party scene. I like strip clubs. Youd rather go to the strip club? Yes, I love Cheetahs. Cheetahs out here. Chesus is solid. It is a good cheatas Yeah, ball at Cheetahs male strip club Now they're probably gross, right, Yeah, I don't like that. I like I like BBS. You like the BBLS. Nice shout out to the BBLS. I feel. Yo. I was in the Dominican Republic and we're flying back and there was at least four women on the plane

that were like on wheelchairs. Uh huh going over there to get that body snatched up? I said, ship, I said, at least hang out out here for like a week and and and let the swelling go down, No baby gone our dudes, bbls. I just saw a band mode bandman Kevo got his body done. Dudes, get well, gay boys get bbls now. Dudes, you're timmy gay guys to get the fake ass. Yeah you've seen this. I got one. You got a BBL Your cheeks are? Is there a fat reassignment? What is going on? They just take it.

They just take it from your stomach and your waist and just put it in the bad put your ass and hips. So you got the BBO popping? Where'd you go to get it done? Showski Miami? Was it painful? Nah? Wow, it's not. It's really not. Like you just wake up. You kind of store a little bit and then like you can't sit out of your butt for like four to six weeks. I broke my tailbone when I was in elementary school and I had to sit on a donut.

Uh huh. Yeah, that's saying they eat like a little you get like a little donut or they get like a little a little thing that's like you could sit, but your butt doesn't sit on the seat whenever you're sitting down. Well, yeah, I saw you torking on stage. Uh unapologetically as you should at rolling out. Uh huh. And I was like, shit, man, dudes got cheeks. Pause, you know what I mean, dude's got some cheeks. So so at least we know now that you went and

got them things situated. Uho for show. But most men like surgery is so normal now. Of course they just going to get abs and getting a fat sup down and all kinds of stuff. For sure. I just saw. You know, we do a radio show every day, so obviously you know the Hollywood and locks and shade rooms, there's this there's like a dick surgery now where you can get your dick extended for real. Yeah. I can't even imagine how crazy it was. Do remember they had

the dick pump? Oh yeah, yeah, that's from like the nineties for real. My uncle had one. I tried one. Yeah, I had one. How does it work? When I was like nineteen, when me and my baby mama went to the porn store for the first time, I was like, let me try this thing. Let me tell you doesn't really wurk. I mean for a second. Oh shit, that's crazy. It's like it just sucks your dick pause, like you like pump it you like pump it and then like your dick gets bigger in this tube and then like

you take it all. It's not comfortable. But I only did it once I was a kid. Yeah, yeah, definitely not. I wouldn't suggest that. I wouldn't suggest getting this done, getting the surgery. That. How about you just you got what you got, what you got, work what you what you got? For sure? The size matter not to me, not to you. There it is, I don't know, you know your perspective. Some ladies would say it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's got the emtional you're on Miami would say. She

would say it matters. She's dating Diddy ish Yeah, it's no, it's really she really does. She does date him. She's got a great show. I love her new show is so good. Yeah, that confirmed that, you know on the show that that they we I saw that, and then I just started twirking on quabo at Rolling Loud Entertainers. We rappers for sure, and we outside. So just as you're dating somebody, like you know what I'm saying, they not married. They already said I'm dating this president, I'm

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That's just people business. But hell yeah, niggas is yeah all of time. That's I mean. Man, listen, you're a very successful artist. The music is dope, the booty record is going up. You haven't dropped an album in a couple of years, so when is is this album? So? So yeah, that's what we right now. We're in a

creative process. I'm figuring out you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, I have a lot of new fans now, so I want to you know, explore new styles and stuff, you know, reaching out to just everybody, but still staying true to myself, Still stay true to my fans and what they want to hear. So we're just going through the creative process, figuring out which artists dound good on, what records and different things like that. How many records you're sitting on right now? I got so many damn songs.

That's what I do they the phone is ringing right now. They want me to come to the fucking studio when I finished this. So every time I'm in La we in the studio, you're working NonStop. Are you? Are you the type of person who has to write thrown shit? Do you get help with the writing or you open

to both things? I opened the both now. I opened the both when I started seeing our favorite motherfucking songs that we think somebody works so hard on all that, and when you go read the credits and it's like staging people. So I'm like, hey, you ain't write that shit, but we fuck with it and we love it like you wrote it. We don't give a fuck. So now I just had to growth to that because once I had first started rapping, I felt like I had so much to prove, and I felt like I was a

new rapper and I was gay. I was like, my first three projects, you wrote it all. I wrote it all. I wrote it all. My next hit, we just did a song I Feel Good. When I was in Atlanti, me and my brother trade tracks. I wrote the whole song wow featuring material Girl, the whole song. That's that's your biggest record, right, Yes, but here I brought that whole one sire song top to bottom. So it's like I just but I just realized now with like in music,

everybody like just rap. Okay, you can know how to rap, you know what I'm saying, but you know what hit is a hit? Were you nervous to do your freshman freestyle? Hell yeah? All of us was, yeah, well you gotta do freshman. You go there that morning. First of all, all of us have to agree on the beat. Okay, so everyone's got to be like yes. Everyone's got to be like yes, and if you ask, don't say yes and you get out numbered. Yes it's grads. Okay. So well,

y'all have to agree on the beat that morning. You have to do a freestyle a cipher. So those already two raps, different raps. They have an ABC segment, they have a re read hateful comments segment. Long day, you have to do photo shoots. So it's a long guy dam day. And the type of me, I'll get ready like a girl, so I have to hear glam, makeup done, all that shit. You go do your different You gotta have like three four hours. It's different photo shoots and

all that. So you're doing photo shoots throughout the day, different content pieces, and it's trying to write two raps that you gotta goddamn remember, right, and you gotta kill it, and you gotta kill it. Yeah. So it's like you kind of you kind of right. You gotta recite and rap, Like if I listen to it, if I listen to my favorite song ten times, I could rap it better that ten times than when the first time I heard it.

So it's like you kind of gotta go out there and wrap your ship with confidence, like you popping your ship knowing then when your head you don't even got there, remember the lyrics because you just wrote that ship, right, And you gotta remember too. You gotta remember your freestyle, and you gotta remember the cipher. Yeah, crazy, Who are you in the cipher with? It? Was me? Do? She don't? She is dope as head? But K C. Case Casey, New York. I think from Jersey somewhere up there, and

I forgot the other boy name? Were you? Like? Thanks? Sometimes we hear stories people do the freshman shoot and then collaborations end up happening after because you hang out with them all day. Was there anybody who you linked up with who you kind of caught a vibe with there on Tampa. Yeah, that's so funny because I I looked at doult Is like a pop like kind of popping and then we was added thing. She was like push that out. I was like, Oh, Florida, you're from Florida.

That's Florida puts the house. Yeah, Florida and is I know jis a Florida thing, but it's like Tallahassee Florida thing. Like, what's that? Does it get I'm saying, does it get up to Tallahassee because I know it's like heavy like in the Tampa area. What's is that? That's my je Tallahassee? Also, uh T Pains from there? Yeah, you should link with have you met tea Pain yet? I never met you. Ay should do a song together, but we know he from Haste. Yeah, you gotta do it. He need lives

in Atlanta. Hey give me I would have paint producer song? Which one I would have produce a song for me? You don't give me a T Paint feature. You wouldn't let him, You wouldn't let him do a hook. You're saying no to the T Paints. Give me producer song. T Pang write the song for me, creative director, and you won't let him be on the hook. It's T Pain. It's T Pain, Okay, producers, She's like, I don't give a fun produce the song, Like who got a song

with T pa? But I think that some people are like behind the scenes kind of people like I been like T Paint had a long ass on T Pain got millions of records. So I know that that's the top five song on radio about six months ago. Oh what song it's called? I like that. I I never heard it. It's a It was T Paint feature in kay Lannie. It was like number it hit number two. Rhythm you heard it? I only say this is that? Yeah? Are you are you telling us that he definitely heard

the fucking record? Yeah? Anyway, we got to hear it anyway, how you see it? I like that runing nothing drinks, she got money in the bank. What do you think that it's it's anyway turn it down the Paint feature. Now he pain't write my song and produce it. There it is. We gotta get Nikki on the record with you. I gotta get on that. You gotta make that happen. You already got Lotto big Lotto, biggies, any other features that. What about Trina man, Yes, Trina, I want to do.

I want to do. I want to do a song with Trina for the culture, you know, people who are kind of outside of like uh, like Trina is like really big in the gay community. Yes, she is fucking lit. Yes, legendary in the gay community. Legend And for me, I

want to do. I want to do a song with Trina because me growing up, like even though I'm originally from up North, and I remember, like, you know how the difference between living up north and living down South, I really was older, like from being ten to all the way, my whole adulthood was Florida. So Trina was my little Kim. You know, when you grow up up north, they had little Kim as well. You know, Trina was running ship yeah, but down South we had Trina, Trina

the mother of Miami. Yeah. So I just feel like, you know, a lot of my music is Florida bass. I would consider myself like, you know, Florida Girl, Florida Water, because that's a lot of stuff that I go upon when I was a kid, when I lived up north, so I was just sure it is a wild place. Yeah. I was listening to pop music when I was up North, like Britney Spears and Ship. I was a kid. Shout out to Brittany, So that's what was like going to school, t I Rail and all that. Wan six a part

a little bad like that. Shout to bow Wow. That was a Rand one six in Park. I feel like he owned When I was a kid. I thought he owned bet Yeah, because I was like, God, damn this, I ain't love Hot one on six and Park. Every week his video is always number one. Yeah, even the Ship That Sucked, Uh huh. Jesus So album on the way, you're working on it, the new singles out featuring Lotto, Yeah, anything else you're getting into, any acting, any TV stuff have gone to our Lizzo. You and Liz are going

on tour. Shout to Lizzo. Shout out to Motherfucking's that's huge. She's wildly challenging me. And Madonna's song Material Girl Remix about to come out. You got a song with Madonna? Yes, of course, I didn't know that. We did a Material Girl remix and we performed it and and I performed it with her New York Pride. Was she cool like a fucking rock star? Madonna is so cool and solely and Madonna is a boss. I mean, she's fucking fucking quean.

Do you ask your questions like about like some of like like the eighties and Ship, I'd be like, yo, like I was, I would have I just you know, found you. I'm like, yo, how was Dennis Rodman was a good? Like it was so funny, like I just like it was just being right? How you just bad? Like we like in the studio, she like, think, I want a rock hard Should I say that? I'm like, yoh, Ship, Like Madonna said that, yeah. It was it was something.

It was it was it was doing the remis and she was like something something I want to rock hard Dick and I just bust out of I was like, oh, Ship, Like this lady is literay. She was like, should I say that? I was like, I feel like she. I feel like she's definitely going through like a patch in life where she's like on her young girl. Should again? I love I love Madonna. She loves peppermint steamer. So you have whatever room She's saying, you have to have

a peppermint, peppermint. Ah. I know how she smells. She smells good. If I smell, I like Madonna smell like that. I can remember out of just I forgot the name. She's cool as ship and she worked hard as hell like us going to rehearsals together, like Madonna coming and rehearsal with heels on and long gans, blowing hair and her makeup down. I'm like with her little outfit. So I'm like, this lady's still a motherfucking rock star. It was. It was an experience. Shout out to Madonna. That's a

big deal. Not a lot of barely anyone has records. That's what I said. I was like, Yo, you know, I know people that have been wrapping for so long that jay Z might be the last person who had a Madonna feature or was I didn't, I didn't Champagne Champagne Rose didn't hear that one? Was that on a Cubo solo album? Yeah, not the best album, So I probably pasted MO saying yeah, I remember that song. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, I had to. I had to sit down and think, I'm like, you know

how many people been wrapping up for so long? You never even God even she has a smell Madonna, and I was right there, she's crazy, shout out to Madonna. That's what's she goes by M. Now it's so funny. She doesn't my Madonna's M. You're in the car, M. That's interesting. When we were it's like, am you know you're famous? If you could just go by a letter, she got a big M ring. Nobody got on Madonna, I felt, but I was like, I don't know if I could call another human M if I know if

you're Madonna. I'm like, you're Madonna. That's what I'm saying. But it's like everybody's like, EM, you're kind of late in the game. And once to don that MS ready to leave, EM said she could come in now. Oh sure, I bet she's She probably moves that way right. No jokes that I need my peppermint steamer in the studio, like this is what we're doing. I need this kind of water. Yes, don't funk with me, fuck with M. Bitch on Madonna. That's fire there it is. I can't

wait to be like that. Well, listen, man, I appreciate you coming through that last question. If you could, if there was any girl in the world who's so fine that it's made you think about, like, shit, I don't know about this gay ship, which which one is it? Miami, Young Miami. I respect that. Oh yeah, good choice, good choice. Shout out to Young Miami. There it is Saucy Santana in the building. Who leg keV Show