#184 - Kevin Gates

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to people come from you? And you alone? Did anything that I say that not uplifting? The people come from the shade time and me, I'll be here responsible. I mean, there it is. You know, what's the last time I interviewed you. You You prayed before the interview too. That was talking about with dude with DJ had that don't touch Me interview. But it wasn't like I think that that was misinterpreted. No, you know what, I go ahead ahead, like I understand what you're saying, but please don't touch

me again. I just it's just was different. And I'm not trying to have picks and choosers, but some people the energy is in the alantment. Other people the energy is not in the alamic. And there's nothing against him. He's a great guy, great guy, great guy. You know what I'm saying. It's just I believe that maybe my

energy was off that day. You know what's interesting about that about that day was we did the interview, and after the interview, I don't know if you remember, we talked for like an hour and you played us the album and you were like, man, I wish we would have started the interview now because now I know y'all and now if you know, you stepped into an unfamiliar situation and it's just was it was tense, being that I had just came home. Yeah, you were fresh out.

I was on supervis release, so I was still in a different type of mode. I was can we get the mic in front of you if you don't mind, just say I was still in a transitioning period from being in the box to being back in society, so you know, it was still a little different for me. Yeah, that was. That was I always because because people always ask me about that one moment, and I'm always like, you know what I tell them, I'm like, you know what's crazy is after the interview ended, we hung out

and the energy was amazing, amazing. Yeah, and like you played it the whole album front to back and we had good talks like it was. It was, it was, that was still a it was. I mean, I don't be honest with you, Like when I look at old interviews and old videos on myself, I cringe, Like that's the that was the own drugs, Kevin. Wow, that was the that was the fact, you know, unhealthy on drugs. Like, I don't know, It's beautiful because I could look at my growth and see it, but I never want to

be that person again, right ever? In life? What do you think was the turning point for you to get sober, and because I just feel like you're more spiritually just intact, like I feel like you're tapped in. Yeah, man, I feel like the energy is different. I tell you something

I never told people before in an interview. I've been spiritual my whole life, and I think instead of owning up to my responsibility, I would use drugs to kind of dim my light, so to say, or turn my gift down a little, because when it's intense, it's intense. When you in tune, you in tune. And it also I had a fear of people looking at me weird for my beliefs, my belief system. But everybody has to win their own way, and right now I'm winning my own way, Like for the first time of my life,

I'm proud of myself. Like I could cry right now. I'm proud of myself. I think about everything I've been through and I look at where I'm at now. And I always hear people say without a test you can never have a testimony. But like for anybody that's suffering with depression or you done been through something in your past that was traumatic, we are not our past. Every day, you have a chance an opportunity. Every day he is a new opportunity to find your gratitude and be better

than what you was the day before. A lot of people say that they figure life out when they start moving with gratitude. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's being thankful for just as little as shit, man, Because sometimes I feel like we get so wrapped up and chasing what's next. We don't live in the moment. We don't appreciate what's going on right now. I was, I was at this other spot downtown. I was there at eleven o'clock, eleven thirty. I left at ten. I was like,

I'm gonna always be there early. And then I went to the old building, the one across from the whole Fools. I was dead twelve forty five, and then it just was meant to be. And then we came over here. But I used to record here. Well on the other side, are we in next door? There's a studio two doors. Yeah. I used to record here, recorded murder for how you Oh wow, yes, sir, Yeah, I got this place in

February before the pandemic started years ago. Yeah, but this I know, this place was I mean, you know, people use this as a studio still. I mean that's kind of at night, it's a recording studio. During the day we do the show here beautiful. But yeah, man, it's just been dope to see your growth. And like I said, I got to get an early listen. Well, the album is out now, so when this comes out, it's out. But I listened to the whole album front to back, and it feels like, I guess it feels like what

you just said, you're proud of yourself. It feels like this was a lot of it felt like a therapeutic body of work. Yeah. I did a lot of releasing on this project. I rough with a lot of feathers. Please find it in your heart to forgive me. I'm so non sorry. Yeah, even this super Grimlin freestyle you're going off five minutes straight. Yeah, it was a super general free I mean five minutes straight, just delving through everything.

It was a release yeah man, it was it just Yeah, that freestyle's crazy, like, uh, you know, obviously there's the parts that went viral, but the parts that didn't go viral where you're really kind of just bearing your soul on that thing. People, people gravitate to what they want to gravitate to. You know, I guess it was like Gumbo. It had a little something, had something for everybody for sure,

for everybody. I guess, yeah, one hundred percent. How do you feel like, because you know, I feel like it's twenty twenty two, you know, maybe the last five or six years and hip hop has been a real drug infuse vibe. You've been through your struggles with drug addiction. What is some advice you would give up and coming artists who maybe where you are are at where you were maybe a couple of years ago right now, that maybe you want to change their life. It's not a

bad thing at all. Like these are people that choose to self medicate. And I don't judge, but I pray that everybody finds their way eventually, because when I was on that level, I was doing what people on that level did. I guess so to say, yeah, you know, it's about frequency, it's about raising your vibration. And I used to use drugs. It's more like a coping mechanism, I guess, so to say alcohol too as a vice. I got on alcohol. I never drank, I never drank,

but I got on alcohol like two thousand eighteen. It was like maybe eighteen or nineteen. That's not long ago. Yeah, And I just I just I just wanted to feel good. I just wanted to numb everything and not feel it. And that's what. But I'm making it like I was just a big alcoholic because I can't drink. I can't have a tolerance. Yeah, I got a low tierce like you give me one or two shots. I'm you're you're, you're on a level it's over with. I'm souced up. Yeah. So but I saw a laugh that I was on

live one time, and I was on it. I was like, man, that's embarrassing. Look at yourself. And I started talking to myself. I'm like, man, come on, that's not him. What were like the like your drugs of choice? Like if you were coping, like what would be? Was it? Was it? Lean? Was it? I used to drink a lot of lean. I don't think I have a sit down with you to do an interview. And I wouldn't just fresh off the cup. It's a hard thing to kick right, drink a lot of lean and I didn't probably smoke more

weed than a chimney. Are you off a weed period. Yeah, I went through my face. Well I'm off of it. But once I finished this run, I want to go somewhere and just smoke. Relax, just relax and just smoke. I just want to smoke. I just really want to just get high and just relax. And it's nothing like that, man, I think about nothing. Man, there's nothing like getting high and just looking at the sky too. But I'm just too focused right now. Respect it to so bad, but

I'm just too focused. Have you done any psychedelics, like what kind of psychoths? Mushrooms, ayahuasca? You know? Because I know right now shroom psilocybin is something I don't. I hate to say this. I'm in a medicine tribe. I come from a medicine tribe my mother's side of the family. They native to this land. M hm. So you've done psilocybin, Yeah, I don't know what the trooms. I grow my own mushrooms. That's amazing. Golden teachers, Golden teachers, a good shroom strain.

And to be honest with you, it's the spiritual aspect of the mushrooms. You know. What's crazy is I've been paying attention to you the last few years and I'm like, I have a feeling Gates is like woke in that space. I just got that feeling. I've been. Yeah, I just never talked about it. I've been. It's such a powerful thing to like when I see people. I hate to say this, when I see people take mushrooms and they like, I take it with candy that's processed sugar, You're not

respecting the spirit of the mushrooms. The mushroom spirits, Like what the beautiful thing about mushrooms? They heal what needs to be healed. If a tree is dying under the under the I'm not trying to be all what they call it, all nerdy, right, No, no, no, this is but pacha Mama Mother Earth. The earth is our mother. She was here long before, she'll be here long after we leave. Okay, under the ground the roots are connected

like this, All of the trees are connected. If one tree over here is the can then what the mushrooms do is they'll grow in a line. You obvious see the mushrooms. They always grow in a line from one tree to the other. They tap down into the root system and they bring energy from one tree to the other. That's how advance that nature is. Nature is more advanced than we will ever be. That they communicate, Like I know this sounds weird, but the trees com they communicate

with one another. It's like if you know anything about harvesting flowers something o ea. Like that's I hear people say weed onn like I like to address about her her name, like it's a spirit, like marijuana is a spirit something o ea. Something of their spirit. When you harvesting, you can't harvest your flowers in the same room with the other flowers. They give off enzymes and the other flowers. How do they communicate like that? It's far more advanced

than we even know, we will ever understand. So every everything has an essence. And when I say native to this land, I'm talking about the Titano Indians. You know, it's like the Tinino Indians is made up of everything. They made up a chock tall chero key everything or pet everything because they was taken from this land and dispersed all over the Caribbean during slavery. So that's why you got Titano Indians in Jamaica all the way around the Caribbean to Puerto Rico. So that's like I said

Titino like they native. Yeah, I feel like the way plants communicate, the way ants community saying that because if somebody listen, they gonna be like you said native American, you know, said his mother, you know, and I just just giving up their tea being in case because they love people love to critique me for some reason. Yeah, I've gotten super high and just thought, how the fuck do trees talk to each other? How do ants talk to each other? Like there's like a frequency, it's like

a pulsation, it's electric. That's why your phone don't work around trees. That's wild, that's real. Uh. Have you ever had like a really therapeutic because you know, sometimes for people who don't know if you do shrooms, they got a certain they got certain levels of doses. Right, There's there's microdosing, and then there's the hero's dose, which is what people do when they just want to like work through thirty years of shit in one sitting. Have you

ever had like a therapeutic moment on shrooms. I'm a big shroom guy, So yeah, was it something? Because I know I know a few people who've like literally had life changing experiences. You've had that experience, do you remember like what it was or because some I don't think people understand. I think people don't do it. Think it's like you take shrooms and you hallucinate, or you see see things that aren't there, which it's more of like this.

It pulls back what's already there. There's your neuro paths, it may have. The beautiful thing about the body is if we've experienced trauma, our bodies will suppress that trauma so we don't have to keep reliving and it won't have to hurt us. What happens is you may you may be exhibiting a behavior that stems from a traumatic past. So once you sit and really respect the mushrooms and sit with them and ask yourself, why am I like this? Why why do I do this? Why do I do that?

And it'll be revealed to you everything. All of the answers are within not the next turn could ever add value? Have you ever done you ever? Have you ever smoked the toad as Mike Tyson would call the d M T that's the toad. Yeah, well it's two different ways, that's two different toads told medicine. One is boufo. That's where you smoked it when they rub his back, right,

that's what I'm saying for you free base it. And then the other one where you clean your lymphatic system is humbosito cumber and they take where it's still the same poison, but they put it on you. They burn you and put it on your skin. That sounds great. I haven't heard of that. Have you done that? Have you? Have you tried that? Like I said, I'm in a

medicine tried that's fire man. I'm so scared to try it because I hear you're kind of gone for like you know, fifty four, Yeah, like you hit it and then you're just you're just kind of I'm not saying that I ever tried it, but I'm gonna say you're gonna be gone for like ten minutes, but it's gonna feel like you've been gone for years. I've heard that, I feel like you've been gone for a long time,

but you only been gone for ten minutes. But that's just those are just starter kids like ayahuasca and excuse me, excuse me, mother theay ayahuasca, because you gotta be respectful when you're speaking of these spirits that they're strongest medicines that come from the earth. But they just start up starting kids. To me, they just let you know what's already in you. You can reach these same levels through control, breathing, meditation. You can reach these levels. You can unlock the d

MT that's naturally produced in your body through breathing. I didn't know that. Yeah, so all of these feelings that we're trying to feel, we can unlock them there. Yeah, there's just certain things that kind of help, I guess jump start. It's like a jump start, like a starter kid. It helps you understand and realize what's already there. Yeah. Ayahuasca is something I know you got to have like a shaman, and you know, probably prepare with your diet

before you do something like that. It's like, well that's a special diet. Yeah. All liquids, no fool. You don't want any dense energy. You want to vibrate at the highest frequency possible and when you hold space, you hold in the sacred space ceremony. A lot of people don't talk about it. I mean I don't care to really talk about it because when you hear about it, you hear all these Yeah. Man, it was a trip it's not a trip, Like, it's not a drug. It's not

something you do recreationally. Correct. Yeah, I think that's the difference. I think, like even with shrooms, which is obviously a lot more mild than ayahuasca, but it's like your like, when you take it, what's your intent because that's probably what you're going to get out of it. You gotta it's better when you do anything, you should state your intentions. You should be intentional with everything you do. You chudging, Water, I mean is living. I'm not trying to sound weird,

but it's a spirit's living life. Water is life without it? What are we? You're right? Hey, water is literally like like one of those you know, eccentric people right now. There's nothing wrong with being eccentric. Guy, man, I'm not trying to sound like that. What did you you you

kind of pulled this out of me. If it was if it was talking about some music or some ship, then yeah, but it's like we kind of you kind of pulled this out of me, and it's just like coming out because I usually don't have these conversations, especially in interviews, right right right, you obviously you're in great

shape right now. You Yeah, square. Yeah, man, what dietary things are you doing that kind of have gotten Obviously you're hitting the gym, but in terms of just all three times a day in the gym, how I got skinned. It got on that alcohol which kind of helped me block out all myself. Yeah. I was gonna saying we can get see adderall, which is, by the way, if you ever edit video, all the video editors I know are on adderall. God bless them. No, I tried. This

is my first time speaking about it. I tried adderall. I ain't gonna say I tried it. I did it as a pre workout. I did adderall and pre workout at the same time. Yeah, I was in a gym like I was on a mission. In my mind. It don't stay focused. Well then it didn't stay focused, and then thank God for Ambrosia. They came out with this mushroom pre workout. Yeah. A lot of people are doing it. Yeah, yeah, I know people who will microdoes before their workout. No,

I'm I'm on ambrosia ore workout right now. That's interesting, big and full of mushrooms. I take some and recharge. So the adderall though, kind of got you like super focused, to get in the gym initially when you tried it, Yeah, I get yeah, I guess that's what you want to say. Yeah, it's a very they say, it's like, what's that that limitless pill in that movie? That that movie where you take it and you could get ship done. It's not

like that. But I lost a lot of weight, Like when people tell me, when people used to say you had surgery, I used to look at it offensively. But you know, I looked that good that you think I had surgery. But nah, they thought you had like a male BBL or something. I think that's wild. I think that's what. I don't know because I never had that surgery. Of course, I had been shot before and I had surgery on my leg and that was just horrific. And

I was like, I never willingly undergo that type of screw. Yeah, you'll never go under the knife unless you have to. Yeah, I'm not doing to forgive me. I get mine out the mud, which my finish journey took a little longer. But the beautiful thing about it was when I first started working out, I was still doing drugs. Then I noticed that I start slacking up on the drugs because it was like, you know, I don't have any energy to get up and work out in the morning. Then

I noticed my work. I started being able to work out more proficient, if that's the right word. Yeah. So I noticed that, And then I also noticed that once I started making small diet changes. It's like I wanted to take my singing seers. When I was on tour and I was reading about all of the things that cause muke is built up, and I was reading about animal products. So I'm vegan, vegan, vegan, vegan when I'm

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enough chlorify. I used to like, damn, that's why they always feed you vegetables with the steak. Yeah, it helps you that jes so, and you can have steak once every two weeks. All things within my moderation. So I had to get off of the I'm extra vegan to having balance. Yeah, I think that there is also like health benefits to having animal protein that you probably won't be able to. I like the way I feel when I'm vegan. I do steak every two weeks is a nice,

but compromise my reward. I work super hard. I have a cheat day every Sunday. Sunday is a good cheat day. That's the best cheat day. Yeah, that's that's when I'm like, when I'm like trying to be on my ship and I'm trying to eat good. I always save Sundays. I love cheese burgers. Oh man, but I'm gonna have to really curtail it because I'm about to be going on tour soon. You I love. Can you give me if you could rank the top five fast food cheeseburgers from

one to five. We're talking major chains, not talking like the spot on the corner that you love. If we had to go from one to five best fast food burgers because I always fight with people about how good McDonald's is because I think it's fire. I'm gonna be honest. It's not the burger. It's the mustard, the onions that catch up in the pickles at McDonald's that make their cheese. And then you put the fries on the burger. You that too. I get that number nine with the two cheeseburger.

Do you barbecue? Of course? Of course with the fries. Oh god, please know. I love McDonald's. I'd be like, yo, if McDonald's was trash, it wouldn't be the number one restaurant in the world. Now, it might be trash for you, but all things, all things in moderation. Yeah, everybody got something on that Donald's menu they fuck with. I love the pancakes. Oh, the fucking hotcakes. I get the hotcakes, yes, and I put the I put the butter on there. Then I put strawberry jelly on that. Then I drizzle

the syrup. That's why I like that mcgriddlecause but I'm weird though. They got this restaurant called Raisin Canes, got the best fucking sauce. I go get, I go get the pancakes, and I go get Wendy's French frass and I go get Raisin Canes chicken fingers, and I eat. I wrapped. I'm weird. I wrapped my I wrapped my chicken finger inside the pancake. Do you introduce the cane sauce into this equation? I got to and the honey mustard. Yeah, So let me get this straight. You'll go to McDonald's.

Get me, I mean, listen, me and you both run the same wavelength the fat fox here. I will food taste better when you wait till your cheap day. That's real because it's almost like like on mondays, I'll be like, oh man, more days. So let me get this straight, though, I don't want to just pass this over. You'll go to McDonald's, you'll get the hotcakes. You go to Wendy's, You'll get there for you're likes a hot cakes. You'll get Wendy's fries, Wendy fries with the Wendy's barbecue sauce,

which is the best barbecue sauce it is. And then you get Raisin Cane's chicken rais And we just combine all three on a cheat day into some just metamorphically amazing. I take all of my pancakes. People just sit down and watch me. There. I put the I put the butter on there. I put the strawberry jelly. I put a little bit of syruve. I take my my own Windy fries. It's so weird my process. I put all my Windy fries down, I put my chicken fingers across them.

I take the lemons and I squeezed my lemons acrossy. I drill a hot sauce acrossy. Then I take the barbecue sauce and drill my barbecue sauce acrossy. Then I put my fries and my chicken on my I make like a burrito on the on the hat cake and I just eat it. And people be like, what do you do with the cane sauce? I dip it, Okay, okay, okay, I just dip it like every other bite I might dip it from from the raising cane sauce to the honey mustard vice versa. No, man, I'm not gonna land

the trick. You're talking to the same person that puts strawberry jelly and grape jelly on their cheeseburgers. I've actually I'm just weird. I went to some like fancy place recently and they had I bought a cheeseburger and it had bacon jam. Yeah, they've been doing a bacon jam. Care for that. I don't eat pork. Yeah, but it was it wasn't bad. I understand like your logic there. I just can't because I know that I know the truth behind it, so I can't. I just can't eat it.

They don't have any veins, that is kind of They don't detox and they'll eat anything. But they really like some of the smartest animals on earth. They super smart, their survivors. They super smart. But I just because they got him. Sometime. They used to run across my lane on my farm. You'll see him in the morning and they got away. They communicate with each other and everything. They like little people. Well, your Muslim Muslims can't eat,

is that right? Yeah, I don't eat. You've also on your I want to shout out to Fredo Bang, who you gave some love to in this super General freestyle. It's one of the I don't know who the other guy was because being team NBA band team Okay, so uh as two of the guys who now give you love. I was watching a thing like a documentary and he was on the wrapping the streets of b R and he was like Kevin Gates and he saluted me, and I was like, man, it felt good because a lot

of people don't do that well. I do feel like your influence on a generation is very understated. I do feel like, you know, the twenty fourteen to twenty fifteen way that you had gone. I was living in Florida at the time. I was living in Tampa, so I was very much you know, you were very big in that market. And I feel like somehow you don't get enough credit for a lot of what's going on right now, specifically even just with your city. You know what I'm saying.

I'm not even looking for that. It just feel good when people do salute, right, It just feel good. That's why I love my concerts. I'm nervous before every concert because I want to give it the best performance ever. I work out before every concert I get there, I get that a day or two early and workout. I stay in tip type shape so I can be performers ready at all times. I've seen you do a show, after the show, do an after party. This was in Tampa.

I didn't go to the studio, no, no, no. You went to Club sky and Tampa after Wild Splash, and you walked through the entire crowd and hugged every person in this in the crowd, by myself, by yourself, no security. You literally, I mean we're talking about a club of full fifteen hundred people and this is like, this is I think you might have had two phones out at this time, and I never seen anybody. I was grateful embrace the people that were there to support them the

way you did that day. I was like, this is I've never seen them, the people that loved me for real, So I was I was grateful. I was grateful for that moment. I was grateful, So I had to I had to touch the people because I was grateful. Yeah, has that ever gone wrong? No? Well, I had a situation well, and it's so crazy. It was. It was the worst. I want to say it was the worst thing that ever happened to me in my life. But it really was the best thing because I wouldn't be

where I'm there right now. I got a level of freedom that most people only wish they had. But I was kind of black ball what happened in County. Yeah, I was kind of black ball. Like I never made contact with the girl I tried to. I didn't even know that it was a girl. I just seen hands just stay of grabbing because the light was so bright. But at the same time, me being who I am, I'm gonna defend myself. That's like somebody talking about man, bro,

how you are feeling. If that could have been my little sister, Man, i'd have did that to your mama. I don't have no peaks. Also that you're I can't see who it is I did that to your mama, How to did that to your grandfather? I don't have no peaks. When it was a maybe that's all it was gonna be like, I don't have no peaks, Like this is what I tell people that, And it's like nobody understand. They still throw that at me SA every time every now and then. But I'm like, my footage

wasn't even permissible in court. I never made contact. It was no damages for her. I played soccer my whole life. Your head would have came off your body. My daughter was on stage with me. I had to move my daughter to the back of the stage, right, Yeah, I think And at that time, at that time, being young, being ignorant, being out the streets, you know, it's like I'm a natural protector, so I ain't thinking about who

down now, I'm protecting my trial. If I'm a chief, and I feel like the stage, if you're the guy who also goes in the crowd and embraces your fans, you should also have the stage be your safe place. This is but it just it was crazy that it happened. I was. It was just crazy when it happened because I never made contact. But the world just blew it up like he just did, and I'm like what Then I ended up going to jail. The charge is a four hundred dollar fame. I went to jail for six months.

For six months, like I was supposed to have a tea party with my daughter, and it's like I lied to her, like I missed like two of her birthdays. It was just crazy. I did six months and then I was already fighting a charge in Chicago, which I was innocent on that charge also, and I ended up doing thirty three months, which I was supposed to do thirty six months. But the judge showed Lina see he didn't abuse discretion. So I guess that was a good thing.

But I was innocent. But I could also say that was the best thing that ever could have happened to me, because I wouldn't be where I'm at right now if that wouldn't have happened, Like that was the best thing that could have happened. What were the Because some people go through that and they come out on the other side of it worse for it, and some people go through it and they come out on the other side of it with more growth and to come out best. What were the things that you kind of took away

from that. It's obviously sitting down for thirty three months as well, serious chunk. It's trying at times, you know, but my eyes was open to reality, and reality is harsh and the world is a very cruel place. It is, and every time I meet people that's dealing with depression of suffering, I tell the man, the world's a cruel place. Trust me, I know. But I had time to sit with myself. Like the six months in Florida, I was like, man, yeah, I'm gonna do it this way when I go back

out there, but I wasn't all the way ready. Then when I went to Chicago, I was like, I'm gonna do it this way. After like maybe a year, But as I got longer into the BID, I just was like it had stripped me. It broke me all the way down to HM being more appreciative, being more appreciative, And that's that's when I that's when I really sat with myself for the first time. And the other time I went to jail, you know, I was in the mix.

This time it was like I had matured. You know, this is my first time ever taking yoga, because this is my first time being in a minimum security prison and the other time I go to maximum security prisons. Well, we just in this bitch stuggn you know, but it's structured. You know, our prison is structured. And that's the first time I had ever experimented with yoga, and I liked it. At first though. I was like, I ain't about to do no yoga. That's some old bitch shit. Yeah for sure, shit,

you go do the yoga, right. My sella kept on telling me, man, I'm telling you, man, you just gotta do it. His name T Boone Man shout out to t boonb yep, so yoga. I mean, yeah, that is interesting. That what he used to tell me. Come on, ba ba, we gotta go do yoga. Come on, he's man, they got yoga. And I'm like, I'm I ain't about to go do no yoga. Man. I'm telling you. He couldn't even he was having knee problems he started doing yoga. Nah is he don't even He's not even in pain anymore.

Come on, you gotta go. So I'm like, all yeah, But just one day I went, I gave it a try for the first time. I said, man, this bitch aad shit man. The first maybe the first two poses I got into, I immediately had to go to the bathroom and shit, wow, and it just yoga started curving my appetite and things of that nature. But when I came home, upon being reinserted into society, I kind of like got away from those things. But then when I got back into fitness, I was like, you're back on

the yoga. Yeah, I do yoga every day. What are the benefits for somebody? For someone who says the same thing you said, this is some bit shit. I know it's gonna sound crazy, but when I meet people that do yoga, I'll be like, you're a gangster, because I know it's been a journey for me. And the beautiful thing is yoga is non judging. It's just you being one with yourself. It's non judging. It's just you focus on yourself. You focus on your breathing, and every breath

you try to deepen the stretch. And it's very very it's therapeutic. It's like you get a hide from it. Wow, and you released. Like one time I was doing a pigeon poles that's where you had your leg like a lit al and your other leg. That's when you open your hip. And I was opening my hip for and when I was in the stretch, I just started crying. She started crying tears, and the lady she just put her hands on my back and she say, the energy

that you're feeling is not your own. You're having a release, You're having an emotional detox. She said, this is psychic debris that you're picking up on. Just release the things that no longer serve you. She said, no, say it, Say I release all of the things that no longer serve me. I said it. And then my new yoga coach, I was telling her that my left hip not as flexible as my right hip, and she was like, well, you know, your left side of your body is feminine,

your right side is masculine. So you should ask your hip what is it that you're trying to teach me? So like I talked to my body. Pause now, because once I start saying what is it that you're trying to teach me? Or what is it that you need me to release? Things start changing in my life. Like it's crazy. Like when we get rid of baggage, like I would badi or lighter, it's just the things around us, well us down their anchors. That could be people too write it could be. Yeah, it's really one of the

biggest things. So when I every time I do my stretch now my pigeon poles on the left side, I always tell my hip, thank you, like thank you for trusting me, thank you for releasing, thank you for teaching me, thank you for serving me. I thank my feet, thank you for all the stability you give me. Because I'm out you just stepping on these over if you have a song on the album called stepping, great record, but I just wanted to be funny. And by the way, yeah,

great body of work. I know that you would kind of acknowledge that the last project maybe wasn't up to par. It was. It was beautiful as far as the uh, just the I guess how it performed. It wasn't about the numbers. It was beautiful. The project was beautiful. It was a beautiful project. I believe the project may have been ahead of its time, like Big Gangster when it came out, it was ahead of his time. Right now,

it's just out of here. So the project was a beautiful project, but it was everything that I was going through emotionally during that time. That was one of my roughest times, just personally away from the music. You was just going during during the making up I'm Him, that was one of the roughest times. Like after the during like toward the end of the Luca Brassey three, going into the I'm Him, that was one of the roughest times of my life. But I was trying to mask

it and pretend. But people that know me, they knew. But I was dying on the inside. I was suffering. And that album kind of came out before it's time. But it's beautiful that it came out because I could sit back nine appreciate it and be reflective, like, look what I overcame. It's got to be a hard thing to be going through some personal shit like that, oh man, And you can't say nothing gates and you gotta and you gotta be perfect all the time. Yeah, you gotta

be perfect. That's crazy, Like you got you experience every human emotion that it is even more so because you wear your heart on the sleeve. You're a lover, your giver. But no matter what you do, the world beat you up.

You get beat up when you go home it's like nothing you ever do it's good enough, so you never really feel welcome anywhere you go, you know what I'm saying, Like this comes from being a child, Like get out, It's like you never really feel welcome anywhere you go because it's like, if I'm not being what everybody want me to be, then are you gonna still love me? To sing? And that's just what I was dealing with. Like, and I work so hard so other people can enjoy it.

It's my first time enjoying myself, enjoying my life. When you're someone like you who's a lot of people depend on, it's like it's almost like you're so much to so many people. But like, and you know, I'm in that same position where I was taught wrong. Okay, I was taught wrong. We wasn't taught right. We was taught wrong. And as a child, when you provide or look out for people, you develop this sensor. I'm only as good as what I could do for everybody around me. If

you can't be used, you useless. But when you love somebody as you love yourself, the way you love somebody else's reflection of how you love yourself. You know, like if you hunger, and I cut up some fruit and bring you some fruit. You know, this is what I would eat, right. I look at my body like my temple now right, this is you know what I'm saying. So the way that you love others is the way that you love yourself because money isn't always the solution

for everything. It's really an enabler. It's a band aid. It doesn't fix anything. Anything that needs to be fixed has to be done on the inside. Did you ever get to the point where everybody comes to you? Right? You have kids, obviously, you're in a public relationship. You have the labels, you got you know, people in your entourage, your manager, whatever. But it's like, who do I go to when I'm going through some shit because you're the You're kind of the leader. I know who I go to?

Who do you go to? The microphone? That's your therapy, that's what you I got songs that I never released, probably won't ever release, but I had to get it out. That's what I mean. That's real. You have that outlet, which is great. I mean, you know, and then working out, going to the gym, And I think that's why people love you so much, Because people have such an emotional connection to you because you've been so vulnerable on records

over the years. Yeah, it takes greater courage to show exhibit vulnerability than it does to be a tough guy. That's right. When at the times that I was being tough, it was out of fear, a fear of being vulnerable. The reason I learned how to fight and took all these different martial laws and all of this because I had a fear of being weak, or fear of being vulnerable, fear of being taken advantage of the hardest thing for me to ever learn how to do with surrender. That's crazy.

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the podcast. You acknowledged Dolph being right there with you. Dolph ain't gone. He's with you. He's right here in the booth with me. He with me right now. Dolph was a good friend of mine, a great guy, somebody who was a leader, somebody who uh you know. Obviously what happened to him was a tragedy, but everything happened for a reason. Nothing happens without the permission of the creator. And I know for a fact that he was in tune with the creator. He come to me sometimes. My

brother ma is a come to me sometime. I don't know why I'm saying this, but dude, I've had a few artists, Mazi one of them who's who brought you up as not that you're talking about from Sacramento, No, I mean, I've had artists who brought you up like in terms of like you're kind of like their spiritual advisor, low key like artists, even money bag Yell who I know you said you guys aren't closet, But I remember

interviewing a few years ago. That's my brother. But I know that he, like he had mentioned that like you would kind of helped get him into, you know, exploring his faith. You know what I mean. I look at it like this, what I eat not gonna make another person shit, and what you eat not gonna make me shit. But the beautiful thing about it is we may not be brothers and sisters in faith, but we still brothers and sisters in humanity. Anything that you go through, I'm

gonna feel it. I mean, we get lost on the exterior, but we all the same on the inside to an extent, right right right to an extent. Yeah, that's that's fair. How much flak you've gotten for this, Beyonce A bar Ain't nobody say nothing to me? I do like how you preface the bar with if you guys are swingers and in general? Uh that that Ruby Rose replied to your to your uh, to your to be honest, and this is what all due respect. That's one of the

most beautiful women in the world. Like I sit in the trap with all the monsters, they say the same thing. Like all I did is say it with everybody. Think that's fair, the most beautiful woman in the world, Like I would drink your piss, Like what the fuck? Like, come on, man, like, what the fuck Beyonce's piss? Obviously, yeah right here, ma moa, what's that? But I'm just saying, like you gotta think I speak for the niggas that's incarcer rated, the sit down and watch these people on

TV and everything. This is what everybody thinking. This is true? I mean Beyonce is we always have talks like that's like that's like say if this was right here this you know, this is my water bottle, this is my wife. I feel good knowing that everybody in the world won't this what I have, what's mine? Yeah, I'm winning. Yeah, I'm living y'all dreams every night. So you know, people, the other people that took a disrespect of y'all just scared to say what y'all scared to be who y'all are?

I guess by the way, I don't put that much thought into stuff. I just speak from the heart. At what point in time did you realize in life that squirt was passed? It's not. It kind of is. I just say that, but it's not. It's like it's like a portion of it is because you're I got a question for you. Yeah, every woman that you've been intimate with sexually, were they squirrels? I think every woman is a squirter. Every woman is a squirter. But did you

make every woman that you've been with sexually squirke? Every woman that I cared I cared about Yes, Because to make a woman squirt is an art. I agree, it's an art. Like I feel like any woman I ever was with that I cared about pleasing. Yes, it's a release, right, So it's an art. If if I don't make this woman come, if I don't make this woman squirt, I didn't do my job as a professional dixman, Like I didn't get a I didn't get an A on my dick report, your report card. Yeah. Yeah, So I want

to always you know, this is a brand name. I want to always have a good dick report, you know. And I mean that with all due respect. To whoever listening. You know what I'm saying, Listen, buddy, I'm over here, over here, over here, I look at a woman like art like, I ain't please my partner, my pleasure activists, I get off on seeing whether I'm intimately involved with get off my partner. Yes, as someone who's it's crazy

that this whole interview just went left. But well s you know, you know what's interesting because I always tell that to him. Started off spiritual. Now we're talking about squirting, man, But I just noticed, like when you do things selfishly, like the womb, it's his own entity is very spiritual. The womb knows if you being selfish, and she won't release. I'm like you. I had my wife literally squirt in my mouth multiple times. You know what I'm saying, Let's

let's do that, buddy. You know what I'm saying. What do we do and if we ain't trying to please the ones we love? Yes, sir, ain't nothing like having your girl ride your face and then things go you know. But the thing thing is, though, the reason I brought up the piss thing is you might have a crazy night and the sheets are fucked. Mattress gets wet you wake up the next morning. It's a little pissy of a smell. You gotta have a fuck room the room. You got a fuck room, and you got a fuck

room in the sleep room. That's interesting. So you you would just designate room in a late room. I don't even like the word. I don't like the word six. I just say it so everybody know what I'm talking about. But it's spiritual. It's spiritual unification. I pray before I have six. This is spiritual. You'll pray before sex, yes, every time? Every time? It's spiritual. That's interesting. Yeah, I mean you'll pray during sac Hey, I just be thanking God. Would you ever stop and be like, give me a

sec No, no, no, no, but just in your head. No, I say it out loud, like like if I'm just in it and I'm just really punching that dick. I'm talking about punching that dick in her stomach, I'd just be like, yes, Lord, yes, Lord, because this I never thought like coming from where I come from me. I know people look at me like Kevin Kates, but I don't see Kevin Gates, right, I see regular old Kevin. So I'm like, man, it's a blessing to be hitting a big bulled bitch. You got a body of a

work of art in front. I'm talking about I gotta work. Oh I'm talking about I'm talking about just having my way and it's making them big bulla bitch. I'm gonna hit from no bag. It just it's just a blessing to me because I ain't you know when you didn't grow up just having this in my living room, you know, right? You mentioned you and Bundle of Brittany had a little stint on this on the freestyle on a song. Yeah, yeah,

you're on the song I did. Yeah you said, uh in Woodland Hills you were with Bundle of Brittany and then she ended up. Okay, what's the She's a sweetheart, she's a great girl. She's been on the show a couple of times. What I mean, I feel like with someone like Britney, she probably gets a worse rep than deserved. All the good people get the worst reps, all the good people had a worse reputation. Look at me, that's true, say the worst shit about me. I think there's just

a lot of misconceptions about you. No, it's the narrative it's people just say the worst shit about me. I don't care. Yeah, I'm used to it, so anybody that I know, I don't judge, So I don't care. Like what the world say about Bootleg keV, I'm gonna know how I fuck with him based on how I fuck with him. Do you think for you, what is the misconception that maybe doesn't bother you to this day, but when it comes to your narrative that's out there. I

don't know. I don't even pay attention anymore. I don't care. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It used to. I used to get upset, like I don't even care. Yeah, I think like not as many people in an industry where every time the cameras are on, people have to get there are good. I feel like every time I see you, I swear to God, what what I'm saying. I'm saying like anytime I've ever a dog, every time I've ever seen you, just period, You're just it's you're

just unapologetically yourself at all time. No, I ain't doing no apologize. You gotta forgive me because I'm not sorry, right, I'm not sorry. Well, I don't be sorry with telling the truth or doing what's true to me. That's real. I ain't bothering nobody, so high, Like, what's the big deal. I don't bother nobody. People just find reasons to be upset with me for no reason. Right, that is real? Man, Yo, I gotta show you I don't bother nobody I'm talking about. I just had the big my dog. I got this

bully howld micro exoctic bully. His name Dick. I had him forever like he was my emotional support animal. But I guess he left because he felt like, you know, you don't need me anymore. He passed away. Yeah, that was like my best friend. I used to tell him everything he never told us. So you know, I'm a big dog guy. I got two dogs, so I've had to bury. I had to bury my English bulldog three years ago. She had a brain tumor, and uh yeah, I had to put her to sleep. So I can

only imagine. Man, your dog's name was Dick, though, that's a great name for a dog. I have a dog named Larry. Well, his name was really Richard Dick for sure. Yeah, but he was rich. He just looked rich. That's just what his name is. I'm a fan of giving dogs normal names. My dog's name is Larry and jeff. I have two dogs, Jeffrey Lebowski and Larry David. It's normal names, you know. It's just it's just the things that that I go through every day and deal with. Like, nobody

ever asked me how I'm feeling. I don't know. I just suck it up and roll. I've been doing it my whole life. But back to the question, like, people, what have I done. I don't bother nobody. I just if you don't like it, hey, don't, don't watch, don't consume, don't Hey I hate I hate his music, don't listen to it. Cool. Yeah, I didn't do it for you anywhere. I did it for me. Have you been able to anytime I've lost the dog, It's been hard for me to buy a new dog or get a new dog.

Have you moved on and gotten a new animal or No, I've been. I've been working on myself, like I do yoga, workout, and I go to the mute studio and make music therapy. This project no features right, am I tripping because I feel like I ran through the project and I didn't hear anything. I reached out to a few people. I wanted some features, but you know, maybe zero features though right, maybe they were too busy. Is this your first album

with no features? No, because that because that's something that we don't see anymore. Everyone's getting features. I don't think any of my albums ever had features. Uh. I had p and b Rock on the song, Me and Trey songs and uh my brother ty Dollars sign. We did a song together a long, long time ago that was on the East of Deluxe album it came out, it wasn't on the original album. I don't think. Don't quote me on that. Don't quote me people, but yeah, that's

the story of my life. I reached out to some people for some features though just didn't didn't come together. Maybe they were too busy. That's interesting, maybe they did that, you know, I think it's so one of the craziest things I've seen in a long time. Is I'm not too crazy because with TikTok things are. You know, the world's different now. You had this record that came out in twenty thirteen, fourteen, thinking with my dick that has

just resurfaced. You guys reworked at the radio. I saw you brought the guy out, the dude with the cup, and because it was it was a moment. Yeah, super moment. We had to live that moment together. Yeah, Like how much like when you when you reached out to that guy, was he like a fan fan or was he just like a fan of that record? Because that was a that was a that was my brother. That was a great moment, man, that was my brother. Were talking to

DM all the time. That's funny and it's like, as my brother, we shared that moment on stage together, that we made history. They can never take that away from me. And what was your initial reaction to having something like that go crazy on TikTok, because you know, the TikTok world is so different than the I don't really be on TikTok, Like, I don't know anybody. I mean, besides children, I don't know a lot of people. I mean, it's so crazy. I record videos and just send them to

your people and they just put them on TikTok. They do it for you. Yeah, you were kind of one of the first artists that embraced having a full time videographer and embraced documenting shit on your YouTube channel. Like because I didn't have a platform, so to say. I guess, so I used to have to be not have to But my way of connecting with people was I used to make the lid clips on Instagram. Yes, this was before stories. This is when you only got like fifteen years.

They got fifteen seconds and it's a square. Yeah. Those are the good old days. Yeah, No, those were I made up. I'm going to show those are the good old days. Everything's it's just different. No, it's different. It's on steroids. There's no like room. It's crazy because we

were just talking. I was just having some conversations with a good friend of mine about who who used to have a residency in Vegas not too long ago, like twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen, and some of the nights that we may or may not have had in Vegas that we're like, yo, that was like four or five years ago, and the shit that we were doing back then we could never do in today's world just because of the fucking social media aspect and how much more magnified everything is.

That's not true. You can you just can't go on social media and look at it. See I I had got off social media for like a year and a half and I just focused on myself because it was leading to depression. I didn't said this in a lot of interviews. Before I was making comparisons. I was comparing other people's highlight real to my real life, right, and comparison is the killer of our joy. So I wasn't

finding my gratitude. But once I got off Instagram, but like the first I think, like the first week, I used to go to my phone and look and check, and I was like, damn, I'm addicted. That's an addiction, man. I'm addicted to going look and it's the same pictures over and over again. Most people's first thing they do when they wake up grab their phone and open up g I can't do that because it takes my energy from it. I got to get up and go straight and work out. I can't talk to nobody touch your

phone until you're done working out. Well, I got one phone that don't have no apps on it. It got all my music and stuff on that. That's my gym phone. Well, that's my most important phone, my list small phone, my other phones. I got all that shit on it. But when I go to sleep, I cut my phones on

airplane mode. Because I read that the transmission from the phone, they mess up your melatonin cycles and you don't get the rest that you're supposed to get, so you're not gonna have the energy that you're supposed to have the next day. So I put my phones on airplane mode, and then sometime I forget that on airplane mode, and then you'll be with ring around all day. You'll be like, man, damn,

I'm tripping quite I missed it. Anything I missed it wasn't meant for me, because anything that's meant for me, it ain't gonna miss me. So anything lost could be found again. Except for time wasted. I didn't waste time today. I didn't get on the phone and talk because if I get on the phone to talk before I go to the gym, I ain't even gonna want to work out. And we ain't talking about nothing because you ain't even did nothing but the same shit that you do every day.

You ain't did nothing spectacular, like we ain't doing nothing spectacling. I'm not doing nothing spectac I do the same thing every day. But this is what makes me feel good. Yeah, I've heard that a lot of billionaires, millionaire CEOs that's they have that morning routine where you don't touch your phone until you do something productive, whether it's half practice, my best out, a coffee come when I'm working out my best thoughts. It's something about getting up early in

the morning early. I'm up early, maybe three am when you go to bed, then maybe like seven pm, eight pm. If I like today, I'm gonna be finished at like six, so I'll probably get in about eight. That's early. But I'm gonna take me a high bad with the salt. I got my little my little woo wop, and I'm gonna let my whole body relax. Then I'm gonna lay down and go to sleep and get risks so I can get up and go to the gym and at bad. Have you ever done the deprivation tank talking about with

the salt. No, it's like a it's like a pod that they put you in. You're in the water with the water with the salt, and you float. Yeah, you float, yeah, and you can't hear a fear, nothing but just your own hour. Have you done that? Have you done it? Yeah? One time it was almost like I was high, but I wasn't high. Like we're in there long enough. It's you start kind of like I wouldn't say hallucinating. You go inward, which it's wild. It's the journey inward. And

a lot of people can't sit along with themselves. Yeah, a lot of people can't sit with themselves. It's an intense thing to do. I would suggest everyone should go do it. But what's beautiful is when I'm in my solitude. That's when all of my greatest ideas come. Yeah, I'd be like, you know what, this is what I'm about to call my manager. I call him from the gym all the time. Hey, we about to drop this song. We just dropped the song. We about to drop another one.

Mm Yeah, listen to the album is crazy, the intro. I know you just dropped the video for the intro. I love the intro. I love how you kicked the album off. Thank you. I try. Yeah. Do you feel like in today's landscape of artists there's another guy who kind of reminds you or gives you the energy of Kevin Gates that's out there. Everybody's great in their own right. I don't even look at it like that anymore, but everybody's great in their own right. Whose energy do you

appreciate right now a new artist. I don't even listen to a lot of rap, so you gotta forgive me. What do you listen to? God? God? Yeah, listen to God. He's diamond for sure. Yeah, listen to God. But I listen to a lot of rock and roll, like soft rock, oldiest, not oldiest, but like nineties like rock. So like when you say soft rock nineties like Dave Matthews band, or like I know about Dave Matthew's band, but I like it's And then I'm not a fan of a whole

a whole group of people. I'm just a whole collection of the music. It's just like certain songs like say if I'm jogging, it's gonna be one of my playlists. Started I took her out, it was a Friday night like that. Then it might go from there to I shunned. Then what haven't you people ever heard of closing the goddamn door. No, it's much better to face these sources of things with the supportality. Panic down this panic at

the disco, at the disco. So it's just my my playlist is weird, yo, Who I would have never have thought that you're a panic at the disco blinking two guys. I like their wordplay panic at the I like they were. That was a great era of rock. I like Green Day too. Green Days great. Another turning point of Fox took in the road I can't grass your bottle or it is direct. You heard her go tattoos and memories

there last then on trial Forward is worth. It was worth all out, something unpredictable, but in the end it's right. I hope you have the time of It's just I don't know, It's just it's like when you running you get lost, because it's like you just get lost, yo' I'm weird. You're listen. Gree that the biggest bands ever. They had a you know, Green Day had a Broadway play for like five years about one of their albums.

So that's uh, that's that's that's dope. But it's just it's just like when I'm on a trier mill running, it's like, that's that we're going the distance. Have you ever experienced any of that music live as a fan? H one time? One time, who'd you see live? Oh? I forgot? I was at this Atlantic party and the dude was up there playing to get to and everything. It wasn't it shearing? He was It was another dude, but he played the guitar. He played every instrument and

sang and I was like, man, this fly. I don't even remember his name. Some want to. I got a home in you know Tech nine from Kansas City. If you say his name, like to the what you call the people that that uh that the it people, the cool people, they won't know who he is. But if you say his name in a room just random, like just say of random people, everybody will know who Tech nine is. You know who showed me how to do

my merch. Travis and Tech nine strange music. They're the merch gods and they got they the truth like but like it like the IT people try to act like you know, I don't know. But if you say his name, like in a random room full of people, just they're just no. Yeah, they're fully vertical like no other company that's independent. They own all the buses, they own all they own all the prints. I can hear Travis now, man, yeah, man, you know you start doing the merch. Kevin, you know

what I'm saying. You fuck around and beating paid for the whole tour just off merch for you go on the road. He's right, they got their own You ever been to the combo, I've been. I've seen it all. They got their own city, they got it all. They got thrown car wash, they got their own No, it's crazy. And then the merch thing is like like you said, like, if you go to a tech show, anything you can put a strange music logo on, it's for sale. They got they got it all. Yeah, quarter bottle, But I

was saying tech. He told me one thing he does. He's like, I'll go to a city that's low key to experience music as a fan. So if a band I like, and I told him that's what I always wanted to do. Yeah, go somewhere and watch a concert as a fan. Yeah, He's like, me and my girl will hit the road. If there's a band I want to see, I'll find the most obscure city that they're performing in and just go enjoy the show. Like, because it's kind of hard to enjoy shit as a fan anymore.

Like if you're on his level, you're on your level. You know what I'm saying. You put that corona mass on, throw that mask, and throw that poosh heisty on and you're good man. Well listen the album drops. What's out now? This is gonna be out by the time the album comes out. Great body of work? Anything else you got coming? Uh? I don't have anything coming up with my tour, but cos if you don't have it, go get it. If you don't want it, you don't have to go get it.

I still love you. Who are you taking out on tour? I don't know yet. Last tour was DDG right, Yeah, yeah, bro, good guy man, great guy. Yeah, super sweet dude. He box, he does, he does fight, Yes, he does. You gut spark up you guys ever spark no? Yeah, yeah, no, D's a good dude. Yeah. So tour's coming, album's out, man. I appreciate the time, bro, real ship. I hope people

learn some shit from this interview. I hope so too, you know, outside of p and Squirt being the same thing or not being the same, I mean, I'm just that's what everybody think that. Who don't think that? Yeah unless you just blind and you just if you don't think that, then you if you don't think that, then you just a fuck up person like you just you just you're denying the truth. There it is appreciate you man, Yes, Sir Heavin Gates