#173 - J.Stone

definition of sacrifice. Yeah, so just like the trilogy of the series that I'm dropping, you know what I'm saying, And yeah we go again. Yeah, I mean, and it's it's you've been. I told you, man, you've been, because I feel like we've gotten all three projects relatively in a small amount of time. Yeah, it's been about like in the last two years and the last two yeah, going on three. Yeah, it's crazy. So I thought about

that shit too. I'm like, damn, like is it too soon or should I you know what I'm saying, But like, nah, because you know, most artists, you know, even your favorite artist, you know what I'm saying, they give you a classic album each year. Yeah, and they don't let a year go by. It's how jay Z used to be back in the day. Every summer exactly exactly, or he'll hits you before the year. Is that, you know what I'm saying.

So yeah, Plus for you being independent and owning all of your music, it's uh, it's for your business model. The more music you put out, the better it is. Right, Oh, yeah, it's way better. You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm I'm so used to the grind now like then the reviews. The reviews is cool, you feel me, But if I get stuck on that, I'm gonna be chasing that you said about like critical response to your ship. Yeah, just

all that, Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying. I feel like you're very much outside of the industry as you possibly can be. Like I feel like you're on your mission and whoever wants to fuck with you is gonna fuck with you. But you're very much like you got the blinders on and you got your tunnel vision. And I don't I feel like, you know, I don't feel like you're like you really deal with a lot of the industry shit like nah, man, you gotta, you gotta,

you gotta. It's a balance, It's really a balance, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So you know, but it's a lot of motherfuckers I do. Fuck with court industry, you know what I'm saying that fuck with me of course. I mean, yeah, but those are like real, genuine relationships. I saw you out, I saw you out in you know, shout out to Trey, shout out to Trey Day. You know. Obviously this record with Dolph, I'm assuming that came from

a genuine place as well. Yeah, we went to the studio and did that, like we we didn't do no email shit, like we actually did that. Yeah, kind of explain you know. Obviously, rest in peace to Dolph. I'm assuming this is a record that you've had for a long time. How long ago was it recorded? Like two years ago? Wow? Yeah, we recorded like twenty twenty. You know what I'm saying. We used to just chop it up,

you know what I'm saying. He had called me out facetiming with FaceTime each other every other week or some shit like. Yeah, he was the best man. Yeah, how like, was it like a little bit difficult getting the record clear without him being here? I mean, because we do know his people are very solid and then you know, man, Yeah, I had to go through some channels I had to go through. I had to go through some channels. You know what I'm saying. Managers, record label, you know what

I'm saying, Legal teams, you know what I'm saying. They they all know who I am. You feel me. I did it myself. I made them phone calls myself. You know what I'm saying. I didn't send nobody to do that. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, how like, how big would you describe your like music team to be? I got a team? Definitely, I got a team. But sometimes you know, I be wanting to make the cause myself. You feel me. They hit different that way. Yeah, it

just hit different that way, you feel me? And then after that, you know what I'm saying, I put them with my team and then my team will take care of the rest. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's definitely. I even feel like I just had an artist who his PR person was hitting me and I just FaceTime. I'm like, hey, dude, why the fuck you got some random maness? Motherfucker you have to come up my show when you did, because shit, you know what I'm saying, Like,

I mean, I could have did that too. You feel me because I got a new PR now you feel me, But it's like, I mean, ain't no sense of having

him hit you when I can do that. My you feel me, but sometimes but sometimes you say the headache though, well that and like also like this the way I look at it, if your your album's coming out, you're at a level where PR is helpful, but like I feel like you're kind of paying the PR person to bridge you from in the new media situations you couldn't get onto yourself for you know, yeah, who else is on the project? I know you sent me the album like a little while ago. I didn't get to run

through it. So who else on the album? We got a? I got Jada kiss, I got a Stalls some fucking East Coast here. You got them both on the same record? Nah no, no, almost did all I did, but it was it was just best that I got one with styles with Jada. So it's you know, it's legendary, you feel me, y'all. Gott to stop the interview real quick to tell you about our good folks over at Blue Shoe. Now Fellas, if you're out there and you're suffering from

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You feel me. I feel it when I listen to you. I feel like you're just like you're very like You're lyrical as fucked. So it makes sense. Yeah, because at a point in time, nigga, I'm pretty sure they thought the West Coast didn't had lyrics like that. You feel me. I think at a point in time that might have been the case. Yeah, you feel me. So I always want to be one of the niggas that you know, when you listen to somebody from the West, you know what I'm saying, Like me, you would be like, yeah,

that nigga got lyrics. He ain't just he ain't just right. So Jada and Styles who else? Doff Dolph I got lumity on there? Wow? Yeah, oh chick, Yeah yeah wow yeah shout out to her, shout out to Lumitty. That's the homegirl for sure. Those the forward there anymore I got, I got Mazie on. Yeah, you feel me? Hell gang Yeah, hell game, we got some shit going you feel me? Yeah? Damn, that's so. You got a that's a hell of a lineup, hell of a line And I got k Camp on

my ship. You know what I'm saying. We got one for the ladies. K Camp is historically slept on. Yeah, his hooks are crazy, he crab, he could sing. Yeah, he did R and B shit, latest ship, all of that, Yeah, for sure. So you know, I thought I thought about bringing that R and B rap ship back. You feel what I'm saying, Like, you remember how I used to hear you know what I'm saying, a certain R and B song. You hear you're here the first verse, and then you hear some old R and B. Then you

hear another rap verse again. You feel me? Yeah, like fabulous used to do it obviously for sure. Yeah, So I just thought I'd do something different because my last project, got In't catered to the women, now right, You got to give them something, yeah, hell yeah, because they be at the souls and shit. I'm like, damn, I ain't got too much for them. So now yeah, I got like full full record. Just put the females on this joint. So when you send Kiss and Styles a record, well,

first of all, was it that? Was that the case or were you guys in together? Nah? We we sent, we sent the records. Do you send them your verse? So look this was do you wait till you get their verse back? So you know how crazy you got? No? No, no, no, no, they gonna they gonna you gotta rock to what I already got. You gotta rock. I'm gonna bring you to my real I ain't gonna change nothing. Even if you go crazy, I'm not gonna be like so they got to hear your verse? Yeah, okay, yeah, you feel me?

I was gonna put Jada on the one with Styles, you know what I'm saying. And you know, a few weeks went by and I'm like, you know, I give a nigga two weeks you know what I'm saying. You know, I hit the line you feel me and ship. I figured it probably was the record. I don't know. I'm like, all right, let me just send them this one though. Yeah, I'm like, I think you'll go crazy with me in this one with Swizz you feel me? And that nigga sent that ship back the next day. Wait, Swiss pri

this is record? Yeah, Swizz produced a record with me and Jaden What. Yeah? This is crazy. Yeah, kudos to you, Jay, because you're doing some real You're doing some real major grinning. I've been grinding. I'm a fan of hip hop. You feel me? Like even when I was a kid, I always felt like one day I was gonna be here. You feel me? So it's good to like, you know what I'm saying. Exchange bars with the greats, that's crazy. Yeah. A Swiss Beats record with Kiss on it? Come on, man,

Swizz on the hook? What stopped playing Swizz on the hook? You feel me? That's crazy? How the hell did you end up linking with Swiss Beats? Uh? Shit man? Going to the studio with uh going to the studio with X pulling up on X. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, when he was working on the album and I was going to go pull up on X cuz you know it's been a minute, you know, So I put up to the studio as soon as I walked in that nigga. Swizz was like, hey, he nice right there. Feel me.

Just put me on the spot for the everybody. You know what I'm saying. D was there? Why was there rough riders? All? Yeah? They was? They always in the building. You feel me, put the spot on? Feel me? So that's where it started. So he put the Did he put the spotlight on? You like to fucking rap on the spot? Nah, It's just you know, he was just walk He didn't even give me time to shake nobody here and to greet nobody. He like, oh yeah, that

nigga nice right there. He already knew exactly who you were. Yeah, that's what I've seen Swizz like in my early days, like ten years ago. You know what I'm saying, when I first was doing his music ship, were not first doing his music ship, but when I came home and got serious. Yeah that's crazy man. All right, well, listen, you're being nonchalant about some of the ship going on on your album. You were like, yeah, swisses on it. It's a big fucking deal, man, Yeah, it is, bro

it is. You know what I'm saying, I'm I'm I'm humbly aggressive about this. Ship though. Okay, so we got Mazie Lumity, uh Styles kiss Golf anybody else? Yeah, we got a I got Knee Lamb all my ship. I don't even know who that is. Knee Lamb. Yeah yeah, see I'm not hip. Yeah that's cool. You're gonna be here. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, she's dope. She's the

song called hold Me Down singer, singer and rap. Okay, yeah, so you gotta man, I feel like what you're doing is like somehow not being appreciated enough because I feel like you're doing like you're doing that. Rappers with major deals aren't doing. You're making money. They're not making exactly. They're driving the cars they can't afford to d exactly. Bro, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? You feel me? But it's cool though, because you know they gonna catch

it later. Bro, they might not catch it now, because it's like that for everybody sometimes, you know, niggas might need it, just a full ten year run. I ain't on my tenth year run yet, you know what I'm saying a lot of niggas got their tenth year run and look at them now. You know what I'm saying, I feel like you just gotta keep that blinder ship everything, Just keep everybody. It'll come to you, bro, don't worry about going to it. You and Davey still doing the

project together for sure, it's almost done. We're gonna go on tour together. I probably shouldn't have said that, but what I'm saying, that's that's that's what it is. You feel me for sure? That's big man. I want to know your thoughts on when you first saw Kendrick's video The Hard Part five Man, amazing number one. You know what I'm saying, I damn it, I damn it dropped a tear. You know what I'm saying. That shit was just when it got to Nip Park. You feel me.

It was just that shit was crazy. The movement, the gestures, everything, the mannerism, everything like that shit, it shit hit different. You know what I'm saying. Definitely it was that words, just just just what he was saying, like it was, you know what I'm saying, some real impacted ship, do you uh? Because when I saw that, I was like, Okay, well obviously this is a powerful moment. First of all, it's the first music we've heard from Kendrick in five

five years. You know what I'm saying, It's the first it's the first look we get from, you know what I'm saying, the first sound we get from. And then for him to do that was to me, like, that's a hard thing to do without it, I like, it's just it's only I feel like only Kendrick could have did that. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, because I think that somebody else would have did that. Yeah,

people would have looked at him like crazy. Yeah you do you happen to know if like he ran that by like Sam or anybody before it came out, or was it kind of like did everyone hear it when everyone heard it? Nah? I mean, shit like that come from the heart. You know what I'm saying. I don't think you gotta you know what I'm saying, run shit like that about the team, especially you being Kendrick and we you know what I'm saying, we fuck with you

with the team, you home team family. You feel me, Yeah, I think that's something just straight from the heart. You feel me like, I ain't even gonna let nobody even know I'm doing it. Y'all gonna see it when y'all

see it. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was powerful, dude. Yeah, it's crazy because I also feel like when that happened, you know, we didn't get to hear from Kendrick and the Turn, like Kendrick, I mean, we wait five years, right, so when we lost Nip man, Like you know, when we think of La, we think of Nip and we think of Kendrick, Yeah exactly, and to like finally kind of get to hear him, you know, put his thoughts into anything about just any any Yeah, but just that loss,

like you know, it's just man, It's just it was crazy. Like you said, it was some real emotional ship. Yeah, this sh it was trippy at first. I looked at it. I'm like, you know what I'm saying, just going through all the different faces, not even just Nip just yeah, Kobe, it's all of it. Yeah, super crazy man. Let's talk about like you obviously are very much active as an artist, but I do feel like you have some CEO ship in you. Are you signing artists? Are you gonna be

like doing the label thing? I know that's definitely something I'm gonna do. Uh, I'm gonna drop this mixtape with Drama. There's a Drama take is it again? Shouldn't? Definitely? So you got a Gangster Girls coming? Yeah? Man, Yeah, I'm too ahead of my time. I think I'm ahead of myself. You feel me for real? How the heck? Okay? So shout out to Drama, A legendary mixtape series of all time. My guy just got a Grammy off of Tyler hosting Tyler Gradors album. Yeah, Uh? Are you done with the project?

Is the Gangster Grils done? Now? We're just getting started. I'm about to go. I'm about to go to the A and tap in uh next week and finish up. You're gonna have you been his? Have you been a generation years ago? It's new? They moved No, No, I know I need to come to the new spot Yeah are you gonna do? Because the one thing that's tricky about the mixtape game now is if you take other people's beats, you might not be able to put it

on Spotify? And it's a thing I'm I'm I'm doing this ship with my producers, all original ship from my label and my artists. So you're gonna be able to actually put it out on iTunes and Spotify. That's good? Yeah, legendary got to you Feel Me. Gotta let the world here you feel Me, because I think the legendary mixtapes are putting it on that pif only that shit cool, but it's like, yeah, but no one shot that PITH. But it's people. It's like people listen to music everywhere,

like too many different places. So I just can't just have it just stuck there. Yeah no, no no, not for sure. And if we think of the crazy O G mixtapes Cushion, Orange Juice, yeah classic, all that was all that was all original production. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah that that. I mean a lot of a lot of mixtapes could have been albums, you know what I'm saying. I think there was albums, but yet Yeah, just the era was mixtape, so it was calling the mixtape. You know what I'm saying.

It was a weird era because it was the blog era. Yeah, it was yeah you feel Me, and it was popping. You drop a mixtape, you know, you go crazy, going tour, going tour off of mix. I'm like off a free project performing mixtape like songs he did off of Wayne You Feel Me in the crowd love it like everywhere, even big tours, like you know what I'm saying he performing that song. Hey, we got to stop the interview real quick to tell you about our good folks at

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That's crazy, bro, that's crazy. So the album's coming out June fifteenth, June fifteenth, June fifteenth, We're gonna get the project, lots of big features, Davies collab project, coming tour, Gangs the grills coming so much. I wanted to ask you. I had Trell up here and I saw you win up to No Jumper and did an interview with him. Can you for people who aren't aware as to why that was a big deal? Man? Because there might be people who are watching this who aren't from LA, who

aren't hip to the politics of LA. So why was that such a big deal that you and t Rel sat with each other? Man? Number One? Shout out to treel Man. Great guy, Yeah, real, one hundred dude, solid dude. You feel me, you know, I feel like you know, we come from the same shit. You know what I'm saying, you know, South central LA. You know what I'm saying, the hoods, the you know what I'm saying, going to jail,

you know. So it's like, at some point, you know what I'm saying, you gotta you got you gotta show the young niggas that, you know what I'm saying. We can elevate, we can grow, you know what I'm saying, and something beyond just you know what I'm saying, doing that we can't get do bennings together. Niggas can't get money together, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, because

your guys's neighborhoods obviously don't get along. Now, it's probably the most notorious disagreement in LA in the LA Street politics. So like, I just thought that was dope, man, because I do feel like eventually somebody's gotta you know, show everybody that, yeah, somebody gotta do it. You feel me, just because based on the politics, you know what I'm saying. You know how LA is like, oh, you ain't supposed

to do this. You ain't supposed to all. They ain't supposed talk to They ain't supposed to kick it with them. You feel me, But you're your own man at the end of the day, Like you feel me and my homies they fucked with that day and they ain't against it. They wasn't opposed to it. You know what I'm saying. Niggas can't be like, oh, nigga, you wouldn't did that

with feel me. It don't work like that. Do you think that there's like because I think when it passed, obviously everybody uh when big you set up uh where everybody had marched over there together, which was a big deal. But what do you think is like the key in breaking the cycle? Because it's hard to tell people. I think it gotta be more of that right there, what you just said. It can't just be done just only on you know what I'm saying, just one day. It

gotta be done multiple times. You feel me. They gotta they got they gotta, they gotta get used to being with each other, being around each other and not doing shit. You know what I'm saying. You feel me because I mean it was good to see people that I know that you know what I'm saying, then probably wouldn't even be with each other on standing around each other, you know what I'm saying, next to each other. So you know, I think more of it. I think you know what

I'm saying, niggas that get the point. Yeah, I just think like when there's like such a I always say, you can't tell people how to react to certain shit. Right So if somebody, you know, once upon a time maybe took your cousin's life, or your brother's life. I can't tell anybody how to react to that, but like eventually, it's like you would hope one day the cycle, because it's just every time a reaction happens to an action

just resets the whole thing exactly. And sometimes you be thinking like it ain't gonna stop, like it's never ending. But I mean, you know, somebody gotta do it. It can't be done. I believe it can't be done, you know what I'm saying. That's why I thought it was dope to see you guys sit together, man, because Trell's a great guy. You're a great guy, and it's like some real leadership shit to like show everybody else, Yeah,

that is possible exactly. Somebody else gonna watch that. And you know what I'm saying, they might be feeling a certain way about another situation. They you know what I'm saying, They might be like, oh, well, well I can do it over here. Was there ever any situation where you on the music side where maybe you wanted to work with somebody or somebody wanted to work with you, but y'all just couldn't make it happen just because of the politics.

Uh nah, nah, I mean I would say, like niggas like two eleven or Schoolboy Q, but like I mean, we never let the hood shit like get in the way of that ship. You know what I'm saying. We always want to do records with each other and shit like that. You feel me, But it's just you know, we never did it. But two eleven is a great guy. Yeah, like great guy. I seen him in my hood. I see him. You know what I'm saying. You see me in here's hood, you feel me and Q, and Q

is an amazing guy. He's the funny He's the funniest rapper exactly. He's one. Yeah he said it's a crazy shit though. Yeah, that's like, that's the main guy I always think about, like man if Que and Knit record, you know what I mean, like certain ship like that that like you know, it would have been crazy. But like obviously you know, but people who aren't from here

don't understand that kind of shit. So no, they don't because like everybody, everybody, everybody ain't with getting money, everybody ain't with the music ship. It's some niggas, that's just you know what I'm saying. They don't give a fuck about none of that. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. You know what I'm saying, And that's crazy, you feel me, that's crazy. But they gotta they gotta live life. They gotta explore a little bit, you feel me. I mean, I was young before. I remember, I didn't give a

fuck about getting money. You used to be that guy. Yeah, exactly, so you had to Yeah, I mean, but you you know, you grow up, manage to this ship, you feel me levels to it. Indeed, bro, well I appreciate you coming through. Man. Thanks for having me man always. We got the freestyle we're about to do so that's gonna be a separate YouTube video, so go check that shit out the album The definition of Sacrifice? Is this the final in the Is this gonna be a trilogy? Noth Nah, It's gonna

be one more. I got one more definition of success. I like that. That's how you end it? Yeah, I like it. But you know, you know that was that was that was That was nip idea. You know what I'm saying. Me and Ni was texting each other. I had symptom, not symptom, but I gave him my CD with like some songs on there. From the Definition of Loyalty and That's when he texted me, like, definition of Loyalty. That's the name of your album. You know what I'm saying.

Then he kept texting like your next album should be Definition of Sacrifice, Definition of Pain, definition of Poccess. You feel me and I'm here, We are there. It is. There's the four there, it is right there. You feel me, so I ain't gonna stop there it is man, Jay Stone, go get the album. Appreciate you, bro. Yeah, let's go, man perfect, get it.