Bootleg Cat Podcasts special guests Caskie and he brought Tasty with him. Let's get it in the kitchen. You guys definitely are inseparable at this point. All right, man, we got a formula that's working right now. Welcome, Thank you, Bro, glad to be here. You've been ducking the show for two years? Have I been dug in? I feel like I'm just hard to get a hold of. I've I've you've recorded here, like, I don't know how about a thousand times strict COVID restrictions here? I had no COVID restriction.
We're the only studio in LA with zero. Coach just busted out in the interview when I was recording one time I got it in. Yeah, that saw how things work. Yeah, I'm bad. I'm bad at schedules anyway, man, welcome, how's everything well? First of all, you announced the new album YEP this Friday, coming out Friday for twenty nine nobody album drops. Uh, So you've been working on a lot of music. You tease, like a project called Jaws YEP,
and then this album comes like what's cool? Yeah? I like, none of my fans should ever listen to me when I'm talking about what's coming out next, because I you know, I switches up on me every day, all right. I kind of got like ten ideas constantly brewing in my brain, like albums that I'm working on. So like Jaws was the project that I got all my producers on, Like I pretty much got like six guys that been my go to guys, including Chalk. Now, so Jaws is like
the project with everybody on it, and it's turning out. Also, honestly, it's like half done right now. It's sick, but it's just like it's hard to get seven dudes from different parts of the country, you know, and and Locke lives in Germany now, so oh shit, Jaws put on hold, Like I think we're gonna do second session in May, but yeah, nobody like me and Tasty record Demni every day, so nobody was like, let's let's give him some crack. You knock it out quickly, not really, I mean, like,
you know, it's been about six months. Some of the records are like yes, some are brand new, but some yeah, about six months. Because last year you did you put out the project with Chalk find Our and the Wolf Project, and then you're the Wolf Collab project and then you put out like one hundred dollars mixtape. Yeah we did that, which was you sold a thousand of them rights and copies. Yeah, real Nipsey hustle, like man, shout out Nipsey to go. You sold? So was it all? They were all on
USB's right now. We did. We did like eight hundred physical CDs and like two hundred USBs or something like that. So nice little hundred thousand dollars come up. Yeah, you could say that, how like how did you decide what to put on the how did you decide what to put on the one hundred dollars project? But like the original idea behind it was like, you know, as an artist, you got a lot of music, you know what I mean, you know, for managing artists is like we record hundreds
of songs and almost that nobody will ever hear. Yeah, and a lot of it's really dope, you know. So the kind of the idea is like we still wanted to work on this album, like still working on Nobody, still working on Jaws. But I don't know, we were just like, man, what's a way that we could like really give people these records that I don't know if they'll come out for you know, another year or whatever, and so we just like, I don't know, we put
our heads together. The one hundred Dollar mixege was twenty five songs, so twenty five records. Are they never ever going to be on DSPs? And nobody and nobody's uploaded it online because I wrote everybody a letter, Like all thousand came with this typewriter letter from me that was just basically explaining to them that this was like a sacrifice to the creative gods. You know, it's like twenty five records I put hours in that I'm not going to put out. They're just for the fans, and no
one's leaked. One's leaked it. I still looking at it. I'm like, bro, we got the coolest fans man. Everybody real. They asked me before they play it for their friends, they'll DM me and be like, bro, can I show my homie the table? I'm like, yeah, that's crazy quick hunting Bag one hundred thousand, it's a nice coming, man. Oh yeah, that was great. Me and Tasty has been figuring out how to get the bag independent. I feel
like we've been pretty creative. Yeah, I mean Yeah, for artists who are watching this, like, what are some of the things that you have figured out when it I mean, obviously you do features, and I love how you address some of those artists that you do features for on fine art, I said, I said. I never what I said. I never sold out just to I never made music just to make it deal. Except for every feature that I ever did trying to only be a rapper and
pay the bills. But shout out them rappers. They kept it alive. I hope they'll thrive and win. My feature price too high, you never could buy it again. I thought, you know, like I really do appreciate all the artist you know. I know some people maybe look at the features and it's like these some of these people ain't on your level. But like, I don't know, it's all practice for me and feed the family, come with the bag,
happy to get it. Bro. Yeah, I've seen a few guys you've done songs with and I'm like, hm, I don't discriminate. The money's blue. I'm in there. The money's blue.
I don't feel like it like take away from my brand because I just I make so much music and I don't know I'm coming every time, Like every single one of those features, they gotta fucking they got a ten out of ten verse so and there's always that respect like for up and coming artists, no matter how good they are or whatever, and I just like get
it somewhere. Yeah, Like that was my first, like I first, my first foot in the industry was a paid features actually, Jelly bro that was the first and the only feature I bought, and that was like my foot in. So well you're with that, like twenty twelve, twenty twelve, Yeah, I actually highlights saw me last night and showed me a video of me and Jelly from fucking nine years ago. I was like, that's so crazy because I first met
Jelly in twenty fourteen thirteen. Yeah, he was a I picked him, Like, I hope he's not mad at me for saying this, but I pat him for like two hundred and fifty dollars firs. He was like, man, fuck it, he fucked with my managers. He's like, shit, paid for my studio time and I'll come do it. Oh wow, that was like my first like foot in I guess to the game was that before cash Money yeh, pre cast money, the song thatver even came out. It was
called day No. It was like, bro, I'm in a triple X white tea riding in these donks in Florida and shit, it was so you put out a mixtape and make one hundred thousand dollars selling a thousand copies allegedly, Well, everyone's got to get paid off. Allegedly, we made a
hundred racks. You'll do some features. What are the other things you're doing to show stream I mean streaming bag is we're making beats to you, guys are making beats too Tasty taught me that he'd make a crazy bag off of beats, and like he's been teaching me production here and there and ship. So we put a beat tape together out we made I'll tell you after the show, you're druck in the high r s. Yeah, it was a chunk. So we made good money out there as streams.
I mean the Wolf the Wolf album increased me in his pocket is about double. That Wolf album was a nice little game changer for you. You feel like, yeah, shout out the Yellow Wolf. I just want to say he's the only and the realist artist for being one of the few that like gave me public love. But also put a bag in my pocket. You know. Besides Berdman, Ain't nobody ever done that, So he's real for that
big bag. Yeah, and he doesn't work with like anyone. No. Hell, we've been waiting for him and Rich to put a project out for like twelve years, and I wonder that I haven't. It's never gonna happen. We've been talking about part two, that'll be fire. He's you know, he's in his rock mode in the album. Well, but at some point when it's Ness said, you know, every time I send him a record, he'd be like, man, we took
the lead on those songs. I took the lead as far as I chose all the beats like Tasty Yeah, Like we pretty much read Tastey's house picking beats out for a couple of days. So I came with like the creative direction as far as like beats and like what you know, I kind of thought directions were gonna be But I mean, as far as the records go, it was pretty much even like Wolf the intro. Wolf wrote his very right when I played on the beat.
He wrote that shit in about ten minutes. And yeah, I feel like Wolf really brought the bars out of him he turned up. So it was pretty I mean it's pretty even as far as like the writing and shit went. But he kind of like gave me the go to to just kind of forefront the direction of you. I feel like lyrically you had your sharpest year last year because I feel like fine art was very much
like a very heavy on the bars. Yeah, Like what it was was that when you know, I've been recording myself for a long time, so a lot of times you get in there kind of freestyle your vibes. But when I was in Nashville working on the Wolf album, like they record everything analog like or like through this board, you know, so like no presets on your vocals, so I kind of just had to get back into like my writing bag. And then it just kind of like reminded me, like I'm fucking top tier when I do that,
you know, So I think fine art and that. Yeah, do you feel like because I feel like you'd always kind of been doing your thing independently, But I feel like from the beginning of the pandemic you had, the pandemic brought the hustle out you and never was in you. Pandemic just turned us up. What the fuck is the name of the We Ain't Scared of No Police, bitch marshal Ow. That was like, that was our biggest record.
I was gonna say, thats your biggest record up until the Wolf album came out, and so it's like, dang god, because like my biggest record prie of that was like a record. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did that. We did the we like we were recording here right when the Pandemic was starting to hit. Yeah, and then I was like, yeah, we should do a fucking pandemic theme table, came up with all the song titles, and then knocked that shit
out in like two days. It's crazy because that song came out like a month or two prior to all that like civil rights stuff with the Black Lives Matter and everything, so it was just we didn't play none of that. It's just you know, that was like, I feel like you were one of the first guys to put a pandemic. Everyone had a Pandemic project yeah, and had like kind of got played out at some point, But now, like, do you feel like because I feel like you've had the best two and a half years
of your career since the Pandemic started or two years. Yeah. You know what's crazy is that, like my bag kind of slowed at first because you know, like the pandemic hit right when we were finishing up this tour, so like tours like a third of the bag, right, you know, as a artist you got like streams merch tour, so like I felt like a third of the bag was gone, right, and then we just I don't know, me and Tacy are addicted to money, so we're like, you know, when
some stimulus sex started coming, everybody had money. Yeah, we features taking all the stimulus money. We got every rapper stimulus check now, like honestly, just it brought the focus back to the music, which was dope. And then the woof shit happened. Like I don't know, there was just a lot of like pivotal things going on in my life around that time that just all added up to that. We got to stop the interview real quick man. Shout
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really love that record. Yeah, it was like a lot of things, you know, the pandemic, social media, the protest video. It was just a moment. We couldn't have planned it, you know, it just happened. You got Jesse. Uh this is the second video he's been in, but this video he is like, he's like in the video, had this idea for like a minute. You know you've seen it with like the pop stuff. Yeah, that Jesse people were there.
I thought that was so funny. I've been wanting to do that for a grip and Jesse and I was tossing the idea. He was down, Like I sent him the lyrics. He's like, I got this. I'm about to fucking hone him. He loves it. He want to be a rapper or something. Dude. He recorded here bro. I remember nobody was like, Yo, we should do a comedy skit. How about the skit when when he's homies in the booth and he's like, yeah, I'm just thinking like more tropical vibes. Like he's awesome that. I like. The was
like Jesse, good dude. Jesse's a good dude man. Yeah, so yeah, because I feel like, did you barely just meet him during the pandemic? Yeah, like I had. I met Steve will do It because he's from Ovido, which like my high school when it springs in Oviedo or like rival schools, So like we had some mutual friends and ship. I knew he was. He brought me out to the Noake Spy and then I met them and Jesse just he's on my way, dude, shout Florida Man producing Steve will do It and CASKI Bro and Mike
Busey Florida characters. Bro, can you tell us about the craziest time you've had a Mike Bucy's house? Uh no, no, no, I love it honestly, like every time. And what's the craziest thing you've witnessed the involved the craziest thing I've ever seen? Well, I just saw the story post of this lady sucking off like a thousand veteran dicks. Yeah, that was pretty much disgusting. You were there for. This was something you were there for. Now, I wasn't there
for that craziest shit. I was there. I mean just like crazy orgies with like clowns and nidgets and shit like that. What's that smell? Like? Gross? Smells like the gathering of the Juggalos or something. It's like a trailer park playboy mansion. Yeah, shout out to Mike. My beauty is an absolute legend and honestly one of the kindest people to be big got a big hard heart, like put on for me. Just good dude, man, solid dude. Man. Let's go back. How did uh you initially end up
linking with cash money? Like what? What? What was it that you were doing that? For sure? Birdman's radar super random couldn't even plan it. Like I had did this feature for this kid, uh, my homie Noel Kid famous at the time, and he was being managed by DJ Nash, who was like, yep, good dude, did we talk about DJ Nasty from Orlando? Nasty hit me up and was like, yo, I got somebody that want to check you out and shit bird Man, and so bird called me up one day.
It was like, basically, just because I had did this feature record with this kid, he hadn't really heard nothing of me, and he was like, man, come to Miami, I want you to play me some records and then it was just kind of on and popping from there. Super random, super random. Birdman offers you a deal. What year was this twenty thirteen? Fuck yeah yeah twenty thirteen. Ye did you even like look at the contract? I sent it off to the lawyer, but I was like, yeah,
whatever it says, let's go. Like, honestly, like birded, like our relationship was different. It wasn't like all business y and you know, labels, like it was just him being like, yo, shit, I want to be a part of your career. Like here's a bag. Like, honestly, cash money has been like the least, Like I don't know, I was blessed for that situation. Like they never were like strictlers on trying to recoup money from me and just weird shit. Like to be real, they just gave me a fat ass
bag and did some things for me. So I'm like, well, because we always hear, yeah it's mad things about bird all fucking or like, you know, my fans will be like his music's changing because of cash money or birds not putting off you know, all that kind of shit. But like my real perspective of it is that, like, you know, I don't think nobody owe me anything in this world. And so to me, like birds did far beyond what he owed me. You know, he don't owe me shit. So he gave me, you know, two hundred
rags or something like that. When I was nineteen, you know, I was a jit, so I was super dope. Hundreds. Yeah, And so like they did some other shit like as the label for me, video shoots and a couple of things. But after that it was kind of like they were going through this shit with wane. Streaming music became a thing, so like the whole situation just kind of changed, and like I think they were still like at this place of like learning how to navigate the new music scene,
because you know, it's not the mixtape er anymore. It's like, you know, this new era. So I think they're trying to figure that out, and I just kind of did my thing. But they just always gave me freedom to put out the music I want to make the music. They never tripped on you like recouping or nothing. Bro. They let me put cash money logos on merch and
sell the merch and keep all the money. They bought me a tour bus for a tour, didn't recoup any money off that, like they should all me bro, So all those like indie projects that you've been putting out, like that's all you. I have one hundred percent of all of that money, and I always have what's your relationship like with Birdman, because I know you talked to him not too long ago. We're talking shit like it's just good. Like he's just kind of like a mentor.
Do you think like if you really catch a wave, he's gonna call you and be like, hey man, yeah, and I'd probably rocked the funk out because to me, like he just is real solid, Like you know, from whatever people's perspective is on like what the label could
have done. But I think people have this perception that like a label could really make you popping, and I think there's more things the label could have done maybe to be behind shit, but I'm like, you know, I think really the burden falls on the artists, and I wasn't really ready to carry that burden at the time, so you know, I was just legit, So there wasn't
really much they could have did. I feel like they did a lot and if I was ready at that there's also like a weird white rapper era low key, like everyone was fighting to be like the white rapper MGK was beefing with Yellow Wolf. There's Maclamore. It's like it was just like you know, because now it's like I feel like it's not as like weird. I'm glad we passed with Maclamore. And no disrespect mclamoy. Great, got
a nice guy. But hey, that album was solid. No it was not, you're crazy, bro, album was not you're telling me that album wasn't good wings. I did not like one song and Maclamore ry artists good. It was a great album. Man. It wasn't better than Kendrick good Kid Mad City, but it was a good body of course not. It depends what. It depends what. It depends what metrics were measured us. It was music that I would bump. But but everybody got different flavors. I mean,
so there's no disrespect. I'm sure Macliamore wasn't a bad album, though you said it was a bad album to me personally, just because it's something you won't listen to, that's what makes it bad to me. I mean, I'm not listening to fucking Adele when I drive around, but I'm not gonna call album trash. You know, but there's Adele songs I like, and there's a Maclamore song you like one. There's no way there's not a single man one playing for me. When you first heard thrift Shop, you didn't
say this is kind of funky. Now I hated it. Yeah, but I was like, but no, But I was also But I was also a white rapper coming up watching this guy. You know, I've had to do with that a bunch of time, just watching like another dude blow up. They're just like, what the fuck is this? What's going on? That wasn't my wave. I wasn't really big on the Maclimoe at Lea's probably a nice dude. Do you think back and say to yourself, Wow, I was a part of the rich Gang album, one of the most like
pivotal influential projects ever. Yeah. I was excited to be a part of the whole moments where like rich Homy and Thug were popping. That's what I'm saying. I was around all those in those studio sessions and just like, you know, miss that wave. It was dope. So you were in the sessions with rich On and and younger, they did that like Milk Marie one, and they did that one in the studio, uh the studio that I recorded, and uh yeah I was there. I was there when
they made fucking Lifestyle. Really yeah, what was that? Like crazy? Everybody knew was a hit. Bird was like this is the one, Like we all just were like the lead on Lifestyle. As far as the Thug came up with the metal and everything, yeah, he's yeah, he did his name and Homi late his verse. But yeah, that was just that was just a dope era to be around. Like I don't know, I was like soaking up game at that time, like just kind of just in awe. It was. That's a pretty big deal to say you
were at the Lifestyle session. Yeah it was dope. Birdman was there. Yep. Everyone knew. Yeah. Yeah, Like Thug had a lot of dope records, Like he had bro records that didn't come out to like Slim Season three or four or three that that were dope. So like he had all these records playing, but they were trying to find that like real single that took it off. And I don't know, bird got a crazy ear for music. He was like the second they made it, he was
like this is the one we shooting the video. It's over. I wish Rich Homie Kwan was I don't know, man, you know he got locked out by his well, he got locked out by his label. He was signed to that label. Now, what's the real reason why they're not fucking each other? Because it was some that I don't know. I just mean, like he couldn't put out music for like three or four years, so like he just kind of cooled off. Why do people listen to that? I
would never listen to that. If the label told me I can let me, I would just change my name or something. Yeah, Rich Homi Kwan and Young Thug were like they were like Kobe and uh in Shack back in the day. It was a cool value. But now you got me and Yellow. Who else was on? Who else was technically rich Hello London on the track Durezda Shane so dope really dope, really slept on dope artists London that was like dope London. He pretty much hanneled
the production. Yeah, London was killing it. I remember, honestly, like no knock to my guys, but like I had to when they made that Milk Marie record, I like had my guys playing some beats at first, and it was the energy was a little dry, and then London hopped up and went boom and just the whole fucking room went, oh fucking it was out of there. That's crazy. That's basically what Tasty does now. Pre Tasty. Yeah, it's
pre tasty. Like once I met Tasty, it was like, yeah, it's damn you used to work with any of your old orlandos. Yeah, hell yeah, all my guys and they've all like improved and gotten really dope. Like everybody's on jobs pretty much, Mass Hector, Tony chak Log, Tasty, Grant, Angel Hill, me pretty much. Yo. We got to stop the interview real quick. Tell us about I'm gonna tell you about our partners at my bookie Man. Make sure you go to my bookie dot ag right now. It's
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uh fine tuning and learning the independent game. But I feel like once I really feel like established and I got like enough bag that I could put behind the artists and blow it and not come back, then I'll dump it in. But I got. I don't know. I feel like I got a good year. I'd signed angel Angel Hill. Yeah he coming on, Like shout out to Angel Hill, come through your let's share him not for real,
get him to not move to Springfield, Missouri. Well, my thing is that, My thing is that I don't like I want to sign artists that I believe in and just have like a different type of deal. Like I just feel like all the deals that are going on right now is like either labels trying to take too much or it's an advance on your money. I feel like there's ways to sign artists, make your money back,
make money, and them be rich as fuck. So yeah, hey listen man, I think yeah, I think like it's always tricky when you're like a super active artist, uh still trying to make it to have another artist under you, because it's like I want to do that, you know what I mean. I don't want to feel that. I don't want them to feel hindered by me. And also just like I got a lot of ways to go.
I'm like selfish because you'll see, like you'll see like an artist to be like yeah I got a label, be like bro, but you ain't even all the way like there yet, but like your damnself, do it the right way, you know. Yeah, it's like I really want to have that like billboard. That's why Yo Gotti is working so well, because your Gotti established he wants everyone to be bigger than him. He's already done it, you
know what I mean. Yeah, So in time, so uh, you go from being on cash money fast forward, you drop a tape Yellowolf. You're kind of like, how how have you navigated not getting stuck in the the white
wrapper box underbelly. I feel like everybody in that box knows I don't belong in that box like them in there now, but like I be real, like everybody in that box, at some point or another has acknowledged that I'm meant to be bigger than that box, you know, like all my homies and that, you know, I fuck with everybody in that land. But I don't know. I mean, the bird man, I feel like Jelly Rope broke through the box, broke the box open, He broke the box open.
I think, I mean, I tried to do my fucking hardest to just not be associated with the whole like that scene, But I don't know. It's like the Wolf thing kind of like put me in the dialogue because Wolf's like the goat of that scene. But every but there's a lot of people like Underwolf that are just coow and just very much. So I feel like Wolf is done for the for white rappers as well as really branched out, you know what I mean. So it's
dope and he's he's brought you up. Yeah, Like, I'm glad if anybody co signed me it was Wolf because he understands respects the culture as honored the culture. Like you know, I hate the rest of that scene to be real. Yeah, I'm gonna lie like a lot of that ship is cringy as fuck. Man. I'm just like, I can't they just hit me up to have I don't know, some fucking dude on some country ass rapper,
what's his name up Church or something. I was like, it's a hard pass for me, you know, It's no, I don't got any anything personal say about up Church because he has seems like a nice guy. It seems like a dope dude. I just can't have no maga rappers on my shot. I just I don't like any of the blurred lines between Like I don't know, like they're ripping up Black Lives matter is crazy, Like that's
wild to me. It's like that dude who I fucking when I was living in Tampa, that fucking weeny motherfucker who you were talking ship to, the fat guy, the real fat, ugly dude with the tattoos. I fucking hate this scene. Bro like none of blue hair, and uh, he's from Saint Pete, but nobody in Tampa fucked with him because he was like a goof. But I think he came from like a rich family or something. I don't know. But then all of a sudden, he's like
a Trump rapper. He's like a Trump rapper. Here's the thing. The craziest I've watched a lot of white rappers and just people in general. They like find this niche that's going and then they sell out their whole brand for this jiggin. Because it's like one thing. I'll take being at the level that I'm at, because you know, some of those guys do numbers now or they're doing a million views. But I'll tell you what, I'll always take being at a lesser level to keep my integrity high.
Like I don't have no desire to like hit certain number of accolades or like, you know, I think I'm one of the dopest artists out there, and like my whole mission and pursuit though is just like on my own artistic path. I'll never sell that short for some trendy like thing. I don't know. I just watched all these exactly. I watched all of them turn from like street rappers to like Trump maga political like that shs man. They're just taking advantage of that whole movement die hard
and is atrocious. It's like the worst music. I mean to me, all that's just trash. So it's annoying that I even get like brought into you. I got all these youtubel could you be with those guys? I didn't you put it? But you put it this record out? Which one? Didn't you put it? This record? Which one? Which one? Where you know? What what are you talking about? I got time to that. Yes, hold up now, that wasn't to get me in the dialogue of the white
rapper ship. That was because this bitch ass motherfucker made another record about that. I just was proving that was like me being in the gym and just being like Hey, let me show you that I'm way better than those guys are like really bad at making music, so I don't understand any of it. Honestly, the whole thing is like I'm just like, it's just like cringe theater rap, you know. It's like it's like rap that like you
have to watch. I call it theater rap because you got to watch the video and listen to the fucking ridiculous shit they say, and then you'll never listen to the song. Shout out to the q A non rap subcategory. Fuck all of y'all, please please disc me some more so that I can be separated further from y'all's fan base. I have no desire to be associated with y'all. I don't want to make y'all's type of music. I think all of y'all trash, and none of y'all could see
me on the mic. So let that y'all go repost that. Put that up on YouTube. That goes for every one of them fuckers that mentioned my name. That all all they'll do is make YouTube blogs about me because not one of them want to do what having a burden again? So there we go. Uh, you got a tour coming up in June fifty five dates, Me and Doobie fifty five days, three months. It's a long tour. It's fucking long. His wife on the tour with you. She's gonna be coming to some of it. But three months is just
like ridiculously long. Is it the longest story you've ever done? I've done, I've done like a closer. I think this is probably the longest for Shure. I've done some long ones, like sixty five dates or something like that, but it was like back to back to back. So this one's like spread out over three months, but it's a lot of days. Like what is your like? Top five markets like that that are like your brket Orlando that performed
for you. Orlando always the craziest, like any Florida market, Tampa, Orlando, crazy in there, Denver, Love, Denver, Ohio, the whole state, super dope, LA's dope, Salt Lake City, the Mormons fuck with you, get down. A lot of the Midwest. The Midwest is always crazy because you like, what the fuck where we at Kansas and they'd be like five hundred people there. Yeah, yeah, it'll be all over. What is like for you? Like, uh, because I feel like you're kind of uh have you when's the last time you
had that? The sixty sixth Day tour you were talking about that was like, I mean pre pandemic. I feel like you like are kind of a lot. You've grown up a lot. Oh yeah, my tours swag is mad different this time. Like i'd be up at six am and yeah, I feel like you're like some adult shit now. Yeah, I'm grown. Like I don't think I ever see you
like super fucked up or anything. I don't be doing that. Yeah, I'm just like I'm trying to get a bag, bro, I'm trying to like change my I realized, like I think a big part of my career I was like feeding into this like I'm a fucking rock star image, you know, like we all kind of want to be that as the star. And it's kind of like this nostalgia of like I get fucked up, I don't have responsibilities and like the older I get, I just want to take care of my mom and my sister and
my nephew and shit. And I'm like, man, every time I go out and get fucked up, I'm just lacking focus. I'm missing out on the bag. I'd be setting myself, I'd be like self sabotaging, getting two ways to Yo. We got to stop the interview real quick to tell you about our partners at odds Socks. Watch this. I bet you I got odd socks on right fucking now. Oh yeah, you see them, bad boys. These are what we call the odd socks basics, the ankles, the ankle socks.
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gonna get back to it right now. Did you ever have like a crazy drug era of life where you were doing that for shure, like I've been, I've been. I'm coming up in July, I'll be three years sober off of hard drugs. What was like your go to hard drug like Molly and coke, Molly and coke, Molly coke and alcohol and like perks and shit like that. But honestly, like I didn't feel like think I was going that crazy, But it was like right when I met my girls, She's like, what the fuck is your lifestyle?
And I was like really started looking at my lifestyle and I'm like, damn, I be in the studio to fucking three am off of Molly. I come out of sleep too. Yeah, drinking every night, jesus. I think it was a lot of drinking like that was probably the biggest. So probably a good way, Like you know, with all the fentonel s going on, a probably good time to Yeah, I'm out peace. I lost a couple of three years sober from hard drugs from yeah, all hard drugs. We
do not consider psilocybin hard drugs. Yeah, mushrooms. Well like, now, like I've got the sober time under my belt, so I'll go celebrate and drink some champagne or something like that. Like I'm not trying to fucking busting down rails in the bathroom. I'm cool, man, you know, trying to get rich all the drug energy be like weirdo energy too. The older I get them, I'd be like, y'all a bunch of fucking weirdos. Bro, Like it just drugs make
you weird. Bro. The more time I've had being sober, the more like, Man, I'm focused on my family, my health, my music, shipping on MAGA rappers and bro, leave those guys alone. I just beg. I've been on your He's like, stop associating yourself with them. I'm like, I hate on my mind this. Stop acknowledging them because they're gonna put you in that Because I was like, they're gonna associate you with that ship, even if you just just leave
them alone. But he racked up and we did it, and like we made that song in thirty minutes ship on his life video and then like all the other ship like Calhoun and these fucking weirdos, they just made blogs about me. They don't want to some super weediest man and that dud's like fifty. I was, what's funny is that I made a joke to my homies like he won't want rap smoke, he'll go make a YouTube blog. And that's what he did. And I was just like, all right, I want just off of that. I don't
make vlogs about people like I don't like you. I'm gonna just avoid. I'm over here there. Leave me the fuck alone. They're over there, no part of them away. Keep all that weirdo ship away from me. That's why, Like, you know, because like my guys are like you Doobie Rits. Sometimes you were like, we're like teetering. We're like teetering because the interview it from the South. Well, we have
some overlapping fans because I'm from Florida. We're from the South. Right, Jelly Rolls, my dog and I friends and there's people that's like yeah, like I don't, Yeah, whoever want to be friends with them? To me, I didn't do nothing wrong. Like all those motherfuckers came at me because I said we was the hardest and shady. But I feel like everybody think they're the hardest, say they're the hardest, dude, Like every one of those guys at some point talk
about how they're the bed. Like I thought all that shit was corny. Like they tried to like start some ship with me. That was all for the internet, you know, because like if you really got an issue with somebody, you're gonna talk to him. You're gonna see him be about some ship you don't make up, edit your fucking vlog at your house, and spend an hour fucking edited in this clips. You you got any features on the on the new project Angel Hill? I got Angel Hill
introducing the world to your boy, Angel Hill. He's my favorite one on the tape, Like I honestly, Wolf gave me a ten out of ten fucking murder Verse that we've been pocketing for as Yeah, that wrecking about the break people's face. And then I got Dubi on there. Shout out to the Dubes. Man, I'll keep my circle tight there it is. Uh, So the album comes out on Friday, and Adam, by the time this comes out, of the al will be out. So because it's coming
on next week, what next week? Yeah, go get my ship, nobody, go get the who's fucking are you gonna put another one hundred dollars mixtape out? And get grab another hundred band? Fucking right? Yeah? We not. We was talking about it, but I was like, let's not do it once a year. We'll do it like once every two years, every two years because the year it feels like a cash grab, even though I could do that, like I make enough music for sure cash grab. It's a cash grab, but
you're an independent artist. To me, it's like the fact you can say it's not cash grab is like saying that it's for money and there's no value. To me. It was like a really innovative way to get the money we deserve as artists from the people that was willing to spend that, and they got something really special. So I felt like there wasn't like half ass songs. No, we put we put hours in the well that feel like it was worth it. Sold out, Did you bow
on you cheap bastard. Man. We could thousand and one man, they was gone. Honestly, yeah, I just bought a house so you know for the hundred sorry put it down payment by uh anything else going on? Bro, Just honestly music always, I'm like still trying to figure out what's
too much to drop and what's not enough. You know, you kind of put a fire into my ass last year when I was like working on Jaws and I was like kind of going ghosts from everything and just working on Jaws, and you were like, don't fucking do that. Put your foot on their neck and drop you got to I dropped ten videos this year already, so I'm on It said that to me, and I was like,
Kav is fucking right, Let's flood him. So we about to drop like four albums because I feel like when you have like the attention, man, you can't take advantage of that. I feel like that's low key. Where do be kind of fucked up a little? Just do be kind of No. No, he makes timeless music, but he chilled out for like his bounce back. Bro. Watchun He's
gonna be fine. You guys are about tour. I just mean like he just kind of like disappeared for like, you know, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest though I like envy artists like Doobie or like certain artists that I could think of that have a really big loyal fan base and they've only dropped like two projects because I'm the opposite, you know, I'm like twelve twelve
When I look at it is everybody independent. The more pieces to your catalog you add, the more your residual bag is every month, my bad go up every drop. So's keep driving to this shut up there, we'll go get the album. It's out right now. Nobody's out tasty. Have my fucking guy in the Angel hell on my album, Absolute Savage, my boy Tasty. Bee's the best out in the kitchen. Can we get some studio time? What's up later tonight
