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had the dude singing in the boat and it almost cried. Yeah, it was beautiful man, good time. So it's crazy because you and I have never met until recently, but I feel like we've been in I mean, I've been doing radio since two thousand and five. Yeah, and we've had mutual friends, and it's just never and we never ran into each other. Yeah, and I think it. I don't know, man, I never really had a relationship with Tiger though. I think that I just never was like a big Tiger guy.

Despite like I see, that's why we never ran into your ass. It wasn't even that you was always hating. That was never hating. You was hating dude, just say you was hating. You have this, you was hating dog is okay? The last games was nasty that we I wasn't that big Tiger like you was hating. I wasn't hating. You were just one of the radio dudes that was doing And it's okay. Your mine has changed now, Non mine hasn't changed. You fuck with him now. I'm not

I mean him every day. I respect Tiger, I fuck with him. I respect Tiger. He doing his thing and and he's probably the third greatest club artist of all time. Damn he's to second. Future is one. Yeah, number one, number two, Number two might be Tiger Man number two. If we're talking about just songs you could get off, songs you can get off right now. And I'm talking like I'm talking about like hip hop shit, I'm not

talking about em ship. I'm talking about like Little John's probably number two, just all around just is gonna make any club. Little John's number two man, Dennis Tiger. You know, I'm talking about hip hop like like you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I'm pretty sure he would take that. Yeah, I'm not a hater. He went through a whole run that was beautiful. I just thought that, like Last Kings, was just not clothes I would wear as a white dude. I told you I'd look crazy rocking It's the Gold.

It was like real, you know, technical, you know, everything was detailed to fly. It was some ship that I really would actually put on. But then we took the brand to you know, another level, to where we took it to Tilly's and those the big department stores. We had to feel a demand because once they felt like you know, and we had the first like cutting so

T shirt ever to be in their store. Everything else is like triple a bullshit people printing on it, right, So we had a you know, cutting so tea put a design on it and it flew off the roof. And then with those big stores, when you got about two thousand stores, and then you have to ship to all of these stores and ordering that ship, the design's got to come out like this. And I had this

young white dude. He was white, I don't know why he didn't wear and his name was Ryan, you know what I'm saying, And that nigga knew how to design like a crazy like T shirts like seasons. That shit was coming out and I was like, damn, So I just let him do his thing. I was making money. And at that point I just was like, oh, well, fuck it. Did you fuck with all the designs yourself? No? I didn't. I didn't, but that shit was making money, so I didn't even give a fuck. I didn't even

look into it like that. So once you entire split up, like who owns the last King's copyright. That's that's why. That's that was the difficult thing about it. That's what we got sued copyright, you know what I'm saying, and and trademark infringement. So at that point was a death that came at y'all because you guys were banging that death row last King's logo for a while. Should should gave a blessing he did, go head, you can have that. You know what I'm saying. Real quick, you know what

I'm saying. Do the thing cool? So we rocked it. But just the pharaoh itself, though a lot of people wasn't. It was like nigga, I own it, I own it, I own it, I own it, I own it. So we could we try to have like a little distinct thing about it, which you know, which made it ours, which you had an L and a K for the nose in the mouth, and people wasn't feeling that shit. Yeah. And when I said we had mutual friends, I mean in two thousand and ten, eleven twelve, I'm in Vegas

at Molly Mau's house all the fucking time. Yeah, having some of the greatest nights of my life, and somehow never ran into y'all there, despite the fact we was going crazy out there too, one hundred percent before we get into Molly Maam, I'm just fucking happy to be here. You know what I'm saying. I got my glasses on my motherfucker's front. I had it. I'm like, Nigga, you only do big rappers and motherfuckers. That's like huge or so I'm like, Nigga, I'm huge right now. That's how

I'm feeling. But let's go back into Moneywall, Molly Mau's house tight strip hoped in Crazy. You remember strip Hop? No? You do remember strip Hop? What the fuck is that? That was the fucking strip club that friends and used to dj as. Oh that fuck I used to go nip wrapped about it on Marathon. I never knew the name. I wasn't even looking at the name. You know why, because I was always just like moving fast. They had me. I think I think a rack city, I think of

strip hop. That ship was going crazy. I love Molly ma House man. He gave us a lot of swag. Man. What is the craziest thing you saw? A house that Nigga had two wolves over here to Yeah, the two timberwolves in the field to the left when you walked in, I'm like them real wolves, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And somebody tried to go over there. One of the girls we was with one day tried to go over there and pet that motherfucker, and that motherfucker almost went

through the fence. And that's when I knew it was a wolf. I said, God, damn, this shit looked crazy. Yeah, the wolves, the monkeys that is. And then just like but yeah, just all the animals, just the whole like African Egyptian feel uh, you know, just Muslim shit, like everything that it almost it was almost like a Muslim Muslim Egyptian castle. It was everything wrapped into one and it was just it was a beautiful thing. Man, He actually was. I mean we went there, I mean we

had last Kings already. It was an idea, you know what I'm saying already, But just the way, like the whole aura and the essence. When I went to his home, that's when it really I really figured it out. It was like it clicked, this is it. I already knew about the culture, and I already knew where I wanted to, you know, where I wanted to bring it and how I wanted people to respect it, you know what I'm saying. Because it was an acronym last as leaders of our

style and talent, you know what I'm saying. And we was kings of that. That's where it originally came from. And I'm like, damn. When I went to his house, it was just like a cold thing, like you have You've been to his bedroom, Yes, the biggest bed ever, Like his bedroom palls like ten California Kings. But yeah, he bring you around. But the first time, the first time I went to his fucking house, he brought me

into his bedroom. Pause he takes and he takes me into his fucking closet and opens up a jewelry drawer and gives me two I style bracelets and it's like, that's you. And I was like, what the fuck is trying to pimp you? I'm like, what the fuck? That b no, But he did bring us to the rooms. He was trying to pimp tag. I don't know, but I we went to the room and I see these big ass statues, yeah, lubit statues, and I'm like, what the fuck. I based my whole Last King store off

of this man's room, massive bedroom. Yeah, I based my whole store off of that ship. So have you ever been there? You remember that ship? Just no nigga, that's how that nigga bedroom looked with him. You know what I'm saying, My store with a bed and No. It's crazy because like I remember, like there was like just that era of like Mall being around y'all fucking going on the road with you guys. Yeah, like it was.

It was. It was crazy, Like I do feel like you guys had so much to do with uh, you know, just the West Coast run that everyone took the sound and Man Mall taught us a lot. Man Mall taught us nigga how to really be a fucking boss. Nigga and the King. We pulled up to this nigga house ten rolls Royces. Nigga made backs. He picking us up and made backs and ship and he let you drive it. He show fearned us with security. Yeah, giant security. Remember

that he had se ass giant mountain. Motherfucker bro on God, he helped get his first rolls Royce. That's crazy because was it ta living in Vegas for a second? Yeah, we lived in Vegas. Man me my girl him no state tax and Tyina. You know what I'm saying. We all lived there. What was it like like when because like you know, we think of a honey cocaine. Honey cocaine. Why I forgot about honey lived with us too? Wow?

What happen her big ass house? I don't know. She was like kind of like the first lady of the of the waves. Yeah, after she got fans. Yeah, after she got shot. It kind of like I didn't know she got shot. Yeah, she got shot. We had this incident. I don't know if it was Oklahoma or something. He's an Oklahoma or the brask either one of those. Yeah, we was on tour, and we was on tour with YG around that time too, and it was a gang of bloods there for some reason. I don't know what

the fuck happened. They was banging on YG this and that and the other the case. Maybe when he performed he got off stage, he hollered at him boom boom, and I guess he, you know, he he If the situation died down a little bit, so had to get on stage boom, and them niggas was going crazy again. Start throwing ship you feel me? At t and then Troll threw something back, fuck y'all niggas, And then they was like, you're all right. They got kicked out the ship,

so we were whatever. You know, it's normal for us. Niggas ain't kicked out and spiking whatever the case may be. Because we was on the little run. YG is going so boom we come out, nigga. After the show, they're like, nah, we everybody from the squabble but all right, Like, oh no, nigga, gott a burner. I'm like, all right, fuck it, we're gonna go back on the bus. So we like, we gotta take this street out here and then we're gonna hit the highway. So honey cocaine. You know, she getting bigger.

She thought she was the shit. She got her own shit. Now she got a sprinter van and her ass didn't follow us. Her ass made the left instead of her right, and they follow her ass nigga and shot our shit up. She I don't know if she got shot in the leg arm flus. She got one of them shits. That was crazy. We gotta stop the interview right now. Listen, man, I gotta say about Blue cho Our good folks at Blue Choo, one of our sponsors for the podcast and

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that was his own choice. Man, you know what I'm saying, because I feel like he kind of like saved her, if that makes sense. Because we think of like this is before OnlyFans, this before Instagram. Black China was like a legend when we think of like Miami strip clubs, like she was like one of them names you would hear people rap about and then I mean, but he, I would say, it's the other way around, you know

what I'm saying. And I'll do be joking and clown and clowning with her or whatever the knbu So if you ever see this life, so she made him, That's what I think, because she was she was that nigga. You know what I'm saying, that bitch. She was that bitch. You had to go request her to come out. Drake was already said her name and songs. She was stripping, she was doing her thing. Niggas was that kod niggas.

She was that bitch. You know what I'm saying. So in Rack City just came out, feel me, We just came out. We was doing her thing. It was buzzing so boom. He like, he like, man, I need to go get this bitch. So I felt like, you know, it was only right to have the top not stripper bitch or you know, a bitch on her thing to elevate your shit couples. And to me, you know what I'm say, when you in a relationship, it elevate you. So and with them two being together, like it was crazy.

You feel me like she crazy stripper bitch doing the ship, partying drugs, doing all the shit. She turned that little nigga out. She feel me, She turned that nigga out on God in heaven. She put them on a little kid wild ship. One day he looked, He like, man, we gotta go get hers. We go to Miami, nigga. We request her, nigga, the whole tour bus, get off the bus. We go to the club, but we only going there to request her. She comes out, nigga. He

has a stack of money in his hand. I'm like, this is your this is make a break We wasn't even trying to enjoy the club. We already knew what was happening. Boom. She came out, went up, spoke to him. He just handed her the money. We shook. I'm like, you got the number? You did all? She got a number. I'm like, all right, how coutch money? He probably was like five hundred or something like that. But it looked crazy,

you know, the ones look crazy like whatever. So he told her all right, cool, got her number, called her right after he called her, because he called, he was like, come being a Rack City video and then she flew down, came to be in the rac City video and Vegas. This was in Los Angeles downtown. Wait, but that wasn't there an original rack City video that was shot in Vegas? And he shot it over. Yeah, that was like that was like the world Star video. Yeah. Then he had

to shoot it over because the shit was booming. You know what I'm saying that the record label start getting behind it, put the budget behind it, shot it over, brought her out, and then that was all she wrote. Were you hanging? Listen? Listen? There was a lot of speculation that Tiger was hanging and banging Kylie before she was eighteen years old? How much were you around? I was around the whole time. You was around the whole time. Yeah,

I was around every every step of the way. Was there any sort of like, hey man, she's not eighteen talk going on like that's cub business? Okay, okay, you feel me? That was cub business. But because the day when people asked me that, yeah, I'm like, you gotta have a parent consent, I don't see my my dad knock hung on the door. That's on y'all. You feel me. I know what's right from wrong. But at the same time, that was his business and that's what he decided to do.

But if mom and Dad's coming bamon on the door and me as a parent, I'm on your ass. Yeah, it's like Chris Jenner is hanging out and what am I supposed to say? But mom's over here? What I'm supposed to do? Like? Oh no, Like man, I'm just trying to get in. We're off fit in anyway. You know what I'm saying, pre billionaire, Kylie, Yeah, pre billionaire. No nothing, damn you know what I'm saying. No nothing. Tiger walked through that door so Travis could close it. Damn,

that's fucked up. I mean, but people moved on, you know what I'm saying, People people growing. Man, I think it's just dope to see, like I think Tiger like, I think, what's dope to see? Just you know, independently, how he bounced back with taste and man, he's an

entity in hip hop. Talk to me about just like what you've been doing over at No Jumper, because I think, you know, there's always if you have a great personality, if you're comfortable on camera, like I feel like nowadays, there's like no reason for you to not start a platform or you know, I feel like what you and Ad are doing and do no it's special. Man, Like, when did you realize there was something there? We're like,

oh shit, this shit could actually really work. Damn. I when they when the first when the first time they brought me, you know what I'm saying. I was in my store on mail rows and I was chilling, and you know, I'm just doing my thing quietly because I was in the industry for a long time. But I just felt like, you know, the industry is full of shit fake certainly themb ass motherfuckers. Yeah, So I'm like man, I ain't got time to be bothered that. I'm gonna

just be over here. But Pun called me. He like, man, you want to do this shit with a d niggas show up? You know what I'm saying, let me see what to see you to do. But that's my nigga, Pun though I've been knowing her for a long time. Years years of course. So I'm like, shit, all right, you know what I'm saying, let me see what to do. Here're like, yeah, were thinking about replacing this girl that's on here. You know she kind of I don't know, she iffy. I'm like, whatever, I'm gonna get on there.

I'm gonna turn up for y'all whatever. I'm thinking. It's just gonna be one day. I got in there, nigga lights cut on like they cut on in here, and I'm like, oh, this is crazy. They like, all right, go record. I'm like, we lie all right, cool and it's just easy. I'm just talking. I'm like, you know what I'm saying, Some little nigga ain't baby young and I just start interviewing with yeah. So I'm like, what's up, nigga? Where you from? I'm like, I don't even know what's

going on. I wasn't trained to do this. I'm just going out and ad looking at me from the side like nigga, what the fuck you got going on? I'm like, nigga, fuck it. You feel me like, but I just knew from that day on, like this is it. This is I'm like I could do this all day and that anyway, it just ain't being recording. Yeah, on God and pun like come back next Wednesday six. I'm like, oh, it's lit and I'm like cool, I'm gonna fuck with it. I go back again. I'm like, this is easy money.

I could do this. Oh day, this is what I'm supposed to be doing. Talking shit. Yeah, that's what I'm supposed to be doing. Is it hard? Because even like, uh, I gotta like I've been on three times, two or

three times on the live show with some capacity over there. Yeah, And it's a lot different than pre recording because you're live live, so like whatever, you might fuck around and forget your being like you're like it's live and everyone's watching you in real time and let some ship fly and be like fuck, that's the real training though, did did did something like that have to happen? For you to like really kind of be like like did you let some shiit fly that you would kind of yeah,

I did. They kind of like pre warm me on different things and this ship, I should say, Like, you know, the LBTQ community is a little sensitive about little shit, you know because you know how we talking to ghetto forever and I'd be like, man, fuck you, that's gay, right, and they like hold on something gay yeah, And I'm like whatever, and that's just my whole little thing like nigga you gay like and then they like, uh, we live. They had to tell me, like we had to tell me.

I'm like, oh my bag LBTQ and me, I'm just you know what I'm saying. I'm I don't even know how to say this ship, but I'm like yeah, but yeah, I mean it's a couple of times but not too but not too crazy. Not too crazy? Is it? Like? Because I think a lot of people see like you know, Adam's kind of put together all these dope shows on the platform, and you guys all have your own sponsorships, like like I saw you posting my bookie ad the

other day. Yep, yep, yeah. How is like just like the like are you, Like, I think a lot of people be like, why wouldn't you and a d go do your own thing away from Adam? Like what is the Obviously Adam gave you guys the platform. I mean for sure that'll be that one day that that will happen. I'm pretty sure he don't want us to stay under him the whole time or all of our career doing

that ship. Like he's a cool dude, man, he's super solid. Yeah, a lot of people be like, you know, putting that ship on him, like he a bitch or he might be you know racist or fuck him. People think he's racist. People a lot of people think he races. He just like he a bitch and just like he an asshole, like and this and that and the other. Like it's just it's just different with that nigga. Like when I got to meet him, and you know, I like to go out and like really fuck with you and like

try to see what your character is. Like I'm trying to really judge you real quick, Like I really be saying different shit to you. Fuck with you. I might give you a hug to see how you you know what I'm saying, fuck with it. I just want to feel your presence like and that nigga. He a cool motherfucker. Like, so anything we we want to do, like however it is, he gonna support us like one hundred percent, Like he let me do anything on his platform, Like I mean, shit,

I thought it was. I mean now that you're doing you're doing interviews on your own, Like I can do whatever I want to do on this platform. He like, whatever, I can't have any I can make up any fucking little show or vlass or I can have my own podcast. I can get away from at the end of the day, go start my own shit, go live on Friday, you feel me and do that like he wants me to

do that. And I'm like, nah, I'm gonna just build at the end of the day with ad because I feel like we're strong longer me A d and Duno together and then I'll you know what I'm saying, I'll double back and make my own ship. That's what I'll do. But he was like, well, try to interview because I was bringing him a lot of people. I felt like he should interview, Like why don't you do the interview? Yeah, as matter of fact, everybody do the interview. Everybody in here.

Let's see what was the first interview did It was recently djon interview and I did it with a d you know, the little nigga with a report card, That's what it was. Yeah, it was that ship and it just got he was talking crazy about that. Yeah, oh yeah. He don't like DJ head charisma. He don't like your ass either. He don't like none of you niggas. Hey, I'm glad he didn't say my name. I'm like, whatever, man, my name is Benning and I'm not in it. Well, he didn't say your name, he didn't bring it up,

but he don't. He don't like none of y'all niggas. Like radio, y'all ain't doing the right thing. I just think that y'all using y'all platform the right way. Whatever. But yeah, at the end of the day, I funck with Adam. He a good dude. No, I always tell people because I'm going at him for a while now, and I always be like, yo, it's been nothing but solid And I think, like, you know, some of the ship that he'd be getting flak for, it's just white

people humor. Yeah, Like they had him on a clubhouse with whack and they were bringing up all these old ass like dark tweets he had, and I was like, bro, that ship was hilarious. Like if you watch like, first of all, that was not hilarious. You watch Louis c k stand up, he says, wors ship for some all right there, that ship was not hilarious where he wrote, Look, I said, what are we? He was like, let's get on the let's get on wack she were about to

talk about these two. It was just some bad humor, some white people humor. Send me the tweets and I'm like, Nada, what would make you say that. I'm like, Nanda, we can't be doing I'm like, I got one time to protect you doing this ship. But nowadays I just know the type of time he know, he ain't even on that type of time. He tried to be on some dark human and ship wasn't funny, right, you feel me?

That's just I know for sure. And I'm like that she just wasn't funny, not for sure, but for it's crazy because like you've talked about this a lot, but just the whole crypt Max situation. Krip Mak's always on no jumper, but you're a hoover he's got Hoover Killer on his forehead. Do you get the email that says, from this time to this time, this guy will be here. Don't pull up. Yeah, they not gonna make it happen. They're not gonna do that. That's crazy. Like I'm like,

this is young nigga. First of all, he just young, you know what I'm saying. I don't think he really got it all, and you know it just it ain't that time yet. But I was like, you know what I was telling Adam because he really fucked with him,

you know, just as a person. Because when I look at his interviews or when I look at his vogs and all that shit, and I see his how hospitable he can be, like his hospitality and going out there and talking to people and having respect for the elder folks and giving away to the homeless and shit, like he a whole different type of nigga. But when he turned on that gang bang switch, it's like super disrespectful

and it's just like crazy. But I can see why Adam might like him, because that's the c mac that he know, you know what I'm saying, even though he has ignorant content and shit like that, I was like, but he got that show on his fue head cut. I can never talk to that nigga. I can never keep up with him. You ain't be around or whatever. I'm like, but he gonna see. I'm like, one day he gonna understand it. Then one day he hit Adam like should I interview I interview with her or you know,

I do a skit with her? And I'm like, I see the fuck no, nigga, but I see. I was like, see he growing? You feel me because all that clout and all this shit, Like you want to keep that shit going, you know what I'm saying. You want to be successful for longer, and you're starting to feel like you got to reach out to different people. You gotta start fucking with people, even if they your enemies. Nigga. You feel me to get that content out, But with

that shit on your fuehead, that shit gonna hold you back. Nigga. You feel like there's like a fine line though between like because when I saw what happened with dude, like when he got dp'd and like, I mean, I feel like it sucks because like he's kind of been made in this internet personality h and the and the and we forget that he's also a member of a gang, and like there's consequences for maybe some of the stuff that he feels like he has to do for views

or for the cloud you just mentioned. So I kind of almost feel like it's just it's just a weird situation. Sorry, I felt kind of It's not that I felt sorry for him, but I just felt like, damn, like there, there's there. This is how this was gonna end up the whole time based on my one, I know they they gonna it's gonna put a little extra on it because you is who you is now. And two it's just it's game bang and that's what it is. You

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Go to odds soxsoficial dot com save twenty percent off using that promo code Bootleg cav. Let's get back to the interview. Yo, early on were you around with during the g D day days of the time the biggest ged tat So this was like Gaeta school Boy Q. Shout out to Gata Katas doing his fucking thing on Dave,

shout out to Gata too. It's crazy that like that was like a pretty solid little entourage artist when we think back, like what was it like being uh and I just interviewed my homeboy, Bubonic Nigga from Philly Most Wanted just from phist Wanted. Yeah, I just interviewed Bubonic. Man, y'all go check that out, man, bruh that Philly's Most Wanted album was hard at fuck damn. And I'm like, Nigga, this is mubonik and niggas like who what I had

to bring it back to? You know, I'm like, dude, I want to fucking I want to interview Sean Paul from the Young Bloods bro Damn. I feel like Sean Paul had like a little underrated run where he was on every random remix and it was hot and he was just spass. I don't know about the other guy. From the young Bloods, but now Phillies most one of those crazy But what was what were the early days

like being around Q back then? Like obviously both of you guys are from the same you know, the same set early days with me and Q. Me and Q went back when before GED. Me and Q we used to work together. We used to live together in Compton, like we're from the fifties, Like like it goes before GED. Like one day at work, he just was like, I rap. I'm like you rap. I'm like, oh, they're just working. We was working at some like fucking railroad company or

some crazy shit, you know what I'm saying. Manual labor. Yeah, manual labor, load the trains and all that, and me and him just you know, and he from like he from fifty first Street. I'm from fifty sixth Street. And I didn't know this nigga until we got to work and I'm like where you live or where are you froun And I'm like, nigga, I stay right there. I'm like for how many years? He like, And I'm like

fucking never. I'm like never, nigga. We even went to the same high school, like he graduated Crenshaw and I graduated Crenshaw. He's in the ninth grade. You know what I'm saying. I was in the twelfth grade. But I'm like, how the fuck did we not see each other all the way till we got what I mean? But that's just how the universe work, energy work, whatever it was. He always hilarious. My nigga was always funny. He was

always doing the same shit. You might be the most underrated like comedic personality in all the music, but that's how all my homies is. That's how I am. That's how you are. I mean, looking how it's working. Yeah, I mean, if we get together, it's unstoppable. It's the jokes is ridiculous, but it's it's a cool ten of us. Like that's just crazy, Like you can't fuck with it at all. Why did the GED thing not work out?

Like with Q and Tiger, you know eventually obviously ended up with TD just because of the way Tiger do business exactly why I'm right here, you know what I'm saying, Just the way how niggas handle business and how niggas just be like how for self? I mean, you can only do so much for a motherfucker. I mean, you don't owe me shit, But at the end of the day, it's kind of like certain shit you supposed to do

as a friend, you know what I'm saying. And that's what it was with him, Like he knew, like his career wouldn't flourished, would you d he he should? He was he should go over here to TD and this is where it's at, And that's where he decided to stay hustle and grind you feel me, and then t Row he did his own thing over here, and you know, he flourished his way. It was hard as fuck too, don't get it fucked up. Even though he was signing,

he had to kind of force force Cash Money's hand. Yeah, it was on the shelf and heat it up with all the mixtapes, and it was like but it wasn't even as far as you're being on the shelf, because it was it wasn't even that. But like he was never like like I feel like you guys forced like Universal's hand, like with that song, yeah, and coming out with Ship and doing mixtapes done. It was a different time back then, and back then nobody was signed to

Young Money. To Lil Wayne went to jail. He signed all the artists when he went to jail, right before he went to jail, so he can lock everybody in. So yeah. So then so around that time, we really wasn't even We've just sat. Niggas was saying young money and cash money. Nobody was signed. Wow, I mean nobody was signed until that nigga had to go to jail. And when he went to jail, niggas signed they deal. And then once they signed they deal, then niggas start

trying to figure it out, you feel. But even with the mixtapes, trying to figure it out. That's why you had the mixtapes, trying to get to create a little buzz and then being from your money and universal like you get to do like certain little shows to keep

money in your pocket. And that's all. That's that's that was the best we could do at that time, with no nothing, no hits, no nothing but shout out DJ Will though, because he kept man, he kept that ship going, because if we didn't have that nigga, it had been bad. Because it will host it all those tapes, right, it will host it all those tapes. It will host it all. I just it will. It will is my guy. I love that guy. Man. I was like, can I interview?

Was like, no, to be behind the scene. I'm gonna drink my I p A with my watch my bulldogs Swim and Santa Kara. Get your ass up. I have an adult softball game to go to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he doing that. Yeah, trust me. I try to get him on. No, man, cav You know, I got some stories. But I think too, like if Will goes on, like Will feels a lot of certain type of way about a lot of artists, and I feel like he knows,

I know what those like. I think He's also very mindful that if he gets interviewed, he might burn some bridges a lot of people off. I mean, but oh well, shit, the time is over, it's done. Nigga should burn a bridge because he also did a fan of a fan, right, yep, damn yep, he did fan of a fan. I mean

because Chris didn't know either. Chris was if spend signed his whole time, his whole career, in his life, and he had went through that that traffic moment Nigga with him and Rihanna, and then they was finna blackball his ass all the way out. Wish they already did. They did, they did, and shout out to my homeboy Mijo because he hit me because that nigga, Chris was like, it gotta be a way I could put out music. Maybe I could put out music like these niggas. So who's

the best nigga I should like collab with? So you know, help me and my boy me Hoo was like, shit, Tiger nigga, he doing it, nigga, this is all he do. Nigga called us nigga. We went down to Virginia. Nigga was down there for like a month, like two months. Nigga. We live with Chris Nigga. We recorded years the udio

because is it it happening? O nine. So I'm assuming like twenty eleven, twenty ten, like twenty ten, like yep, twenty ten, because Deuces came out in like twenty eleven and that was a real single, that was like a real single, yep, So it was probably twenty ten. So twenty ten we went down there, yep, twenty ten. Yup, hit us. We went down there and recorded all of that shit and then uh oh, it was a matter of fact, that was Kevin McCall's song. Kevin McCall wrote

that motherfucker from the hook and verse every songwriter. Yeah, he well, you know, he was saving the song. He was like, man, we was like, let us get this song. Chris kept Nigga get let get us this song. We kept playing songs and shit. He was like, no, I'm holding it for Drake. Niggas just like, bitch, you don't know Drake, like Nigga, not gonna never even see Drake. That's what we talk about, Like Drake Nigga wasn't in

twenty ten. Drake don't know you don't fuck with us like that, or he don't he ain't fucking with you. So we like, Nigga, give us the song. So he finally gave Chris the songs. Chris song that motherfucker over Boom t row hopped on that motherfucker. It was all she wrote. Nigga. We shot the video, shot the video

Downtown Nigga with Colin. Shot the video with Colin, and we're telling it and you know, Talker had the relationship with Colin because he was the first, one of the first niggas that was shooting with Colin and doing shit, and Colin he was like Colin. Look, check this out. We only got like twenty five hundred, right, Colin ain't doing shit from that right now, nigga fuck probably half a man a couple hundred. That's crazy if you think about all like that era of West Coast videos was

like Black Diamonds remember Black Diamonds. God, they just crazy did like the early white g shit, The Black Diamonds used to go crazy. Yeah, they were stepping out though. Yeah, but Colin did that shit with twenty five hundred. It was over. That's so crazy, man, that's wild. Yeah. Was this It's like was this because I feel like in twenty ten, was Chris like heavy into the blood shit? In twenty ten, was he heavy into the blood shit?

Like not heavy heavy, but you know he was more so focused on trying to get his career back, trying to get back on the right year, and trying to trying to get some of that fucking money back. Yeah, because he was on fucking juicy food commercials. He was. He was trying to get it, you feel me. So all that shit was like, fuck all that shit, but

you know it was still there. It was still in the You obviously kind of were like brought that credibility to Tiger situation when you see artists move to LA and you kind of start seeing them affiliate They're not from here, but they start affiliating themselves with certain neighborhoods or certain gangs, and shit, it's dangerous. Yeah, what are your thoughts on that? Because I feel like it happens a lot, man, and like I don't, I don't, I don't know, you know, I see I see this shit

happen all the time. I'll say, Man, don't affiliate yourself for nobody, you feel me, Just have your tight knit crew, your people, your family, your friends, and then y'all just move smart, like, don't affiliate yourself with no game because gangs don't have no love for you, you know, Like it was it was just cool how it worked out with Tiger because I just felt I built the little camaraderie with them, and then you know, I feel, yeah, I'm just my little homie, so I treated it as such.

But everybody not gonna get that treatment, you feel me, Like, there's not you can't name niggas that's getting that treatment right now, Like from no neighborhood out here that's just gonna back them one hundred percent because these niggas don't give a fuck about you. They'll rob you, feel me, they'll kill you, like, they'll do everything above you feel me Like, so fuck no, don't don't affiliate yourself with

none of that shit. You feel me, because that shit is crazy Because if I was that type of nigga, like it wasn't it wouldn't be no tiger right now. Yeah, because if you think about it, like how unnecessary it might. See if you're like a kid from Virginia and you're like, you've been famous since you were a child. M h and like I think a soldier boy the same shit, right, soldier has been famous as he was a child. Yeah,

even like bow wow. Sometimes you'll be like you'll be trying to do a little you know, hardship, but I'm like, yo, like why is all that necessary? You've been famous that you were a kid, bro, Like you obviously didn't grow up like coming from your neighborhood, you had like you know what I'm saying, this is your life style. I'll tell you why. Because people be infatuated with the with the just the culture and the feel of it. You know, when I get around my homies, like we ain't always like,

oh gon ho, let's go shoot and kill everybody. Like niggas ain't doing that shit. If you're from Los Angeles, California, you fucking know, Like if you on the block nigga and everybody outside nigga's cooking, niggas is playing in the street doing all the whole shit, shoots happen rarely, right, you know what I'm saying. Like, So if you out here in this whole atmosphere, nigga, we all got on red.

You want to put on red too. It's like having that fucking varsity jacka when you're playing football or basketball. Like I want a jacket too. Like you want to go out there and have fun and do whatever with your homies, have some culture, have big homies and little homies and all the shit. It's just like a family oriented thing. But it is another aspect of it where maybe these other niggas might come over here because your homies intok. They ass party, beat up they homies naw,

they mad, They don't want to fight. Now they finna get their gun roll over here. Shoot the wrong motherfucker. Now everybody hate you, you know what I'm saying. Now, we gotta go back over here, and it's just gonna be a never ended fucking story. That's the that's the

worst part about it. But as far as like me kicking it with all my homies, like that's the craziest party ever, you know what I'm saying, Like ass pun nigga used to bring all my homies to his party and we used to turn that bitch upside down having fun. But if a nigga want to fight and do all that, that's when they go left. But it's the family oriented thing about it, I guarantee you and even Sodier Boy, these niggas from the South, and when they see that,

it's like, oh, this is cool. So you think any of it as do was just like I live in La now, it'd be a good idea, I mean, and be affiliated with some ship. Yeah partly too, But yeah it's yes and no because you because back then it was a lot of matter for like artists getting like their chain snatched, Like how do I get my chain back? Like it happened. That happened to Tiger, right, Yeah, it happened to a lot of people. Men't getting your change

stats back then it was crazy, like your career. That was like a done, Yeah, it's pretty much was done. I mean, dude, that ship haunted young Bird for a while. It pretty much was real nigga, Like and tr did get this changed now twice. Like when I came around, like people was like really trying to funk with them and bully them and do all the shit. Because when you're not from a gang, that's what gangs really do to you too, especially when you hot, you popular, got

songs out you on TV. Niggas see you in the street, they want to take advantage of you. And that shit just wasn't flying with me. So he already had the Coconut Ju ship didn'tnigg was already still trying to fuck with him and bully him and doing all that. But when I came around, I'm like, damn they doing all of this shit to you. I'm like, all right, get on YouTube. I'm like, let me give me the list of everybody that's that's dissing you and fucking with you

right now? All right, cool, say no more. I'll be right back. Like probably like a couple of weeks, nigga, I spoke to everybody except one nigga, you feel me, I'm like, hey, that's out, nigga. We ain't doing that no more. Off was like it was like rap beef that you squashed. Its just like little rap beef and like little homies. But it was a couple niggas that's really from gangs, you know what I'm saying, that was

doing their thing. Who's like the most notable beef you squashed for Tiger in that era probably the young hommy named Gudda. He was from Bounty Hunters, you know what I mean? He was my homie too, Like he was my real I'm like, hey, come to my house, feel me. I'm like, hey, I'm kicking it with your young nigga man Leeka along. You know what I'm saying, We ain't gonna do that no more because I ain't trying to fuck up my little reputation and all that. My homies

called me a bitch, feel me. So we ain't gonna do that shit no more. For people who don't understand, who aren't from l A or don't understand the it takes to LA, why was it such a huge deal that you sat down with Jaystone and that did an interview with him? Uh? Because those that's two big rival gangs like niggas. Some of my homies can't even look at them niggas or talk to them, or even stand by him or staying fifty feet away from him without

being hysteric, like crazy, going erratic. You know what I'm saying, Like some of my niggas can and some of my niggas can't. Like but and vice versa. Like I can't go over there, you know what I'm saying, Like I can change my life, I could do whatever the fuck I want to whatever, but at the end of the day,

I know where I'm not wanted. I can't be over there because everybody ain't gonna feel like me or him, you know so, But that was big for the culture, I felt like because even though it ain't no street shit and we ain't changing niggas lives and you know, charity moving, but it just showed you, like the growth, like we can all grow, we can all speak and talk to each other other, we can fuck around, you know what I'm saying, Like times times changed, bro, we

got kids, we got a family, Let's travel, let's talk, let's joke, let's have fun. It's like all the killing and shit, Like I just it's nothing like you. I don't I don't agree with that shit. No more game banging is stupid. You feel me like that shit is outdated, that shit is out of here. I mean, isn't that really kind of like the the root of the issue is that blood has been spilled. So when does it stop? Because it's like it's it's a NonStop cycle of like

wanted like responding to bloodshed with more bloodshed. And I was always asked my homies too, and I'm like, how does that shit gonna stop? Like if he killed him, he killed him, it's just gonna keep going down online, So how does it stop? And they was like, well, shit, that's why you gotta holler at the kids, because the older folks are already stuck in this saying this this frame of mind. So you try to go talk to the youth, and hopefully the youth but have a different

frame of mind. And then I'm like, yeah, I'm like, that's cool, you can go speak to him. But they still got to go home, you know what I'm saying. You still got to go home where they're from, where they're from, you know, the mama, the daddy, the auntie in the house, they still talking the crazy shit like and then you'll just learn growing up, you feel me, it's just lern mentality. Man, that shit is crazy. So I don't really know how to fuck that shit end. I mean, I mean unless we just got a crazy

financial freedom man. Yeah, I mean I remember like when it passed and there was a like kind of like that march that Big You had organized. I know that was like a really big deal. But in terms of like, I don't know, where do you feel because I feel like in part man, some of this younger generation is more wider than the older generation. The younger generations is on another level. And then on top of that, they really don't get They really not outside like we were,

Like it's it's more so on the internet. It's the internet, bro. But they are crazy because when they see they's got big ass ar, they shoot ship shooting up parades and all type of ship like going on. Like so bruh, it's crazy. But man, I don't know, man, that ship is wild man, the younger generation compared to us, it's

just really wild. But what Big You did do us special man for the for the culture for sure, like but not And I even asked him I'm like, big you, why the fuck you just can't go get every nigga from every set and say, you know what, we ain't doing this no more. And if you niggas is doing this, then we DP and everybody. Are you gonna keep doing this? Matter of fact, you niggas can't be from the set no more fucking, no more gaming off you go over there.

So why the fuck y'all just can't do that? Niggas like, shit, it ain't that easy. If it was that easy, it's not that easy. But you could do it, you think, so it's doable. If you brought niggas to the march, I bet you it's a gang of older o G niggas that feel the same way. Like, Man, I ain't trying to do this you no, and I ain't trying to see you get killed. You get killed, you get killed.

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up to a thousand dollars. Let's get back to the interview with t rel Yo. Just on some business business shit man at y'all's peak, Like the clothing line was doing big numbers, like you said it was in Tilly's. It was definitely a cultural thing. What was the best year you guys had? Shit? I think we made like fifteen million off the clothes off the close. That's huge, Like fifteen million off the close. And I would I mean, you know, I started some shit with my girl. You know,

I told the story before. But you know, tro gave me some money. He like, man, go he go fifteen thousand. He like, man, try to start last kings and try to do it up. Basically, this is this is it because I really ain't got no money. I can't pay you. You You don't know how to do shit? Go run this your manager, manager all the shit you I did it before. But he like, I gotta, you know, keep elevating. So he goes some money, nigga, hurry up and do how to do some shit. I'm like, all right, let

me go try you feel me. I took that fifteen I ain't gonna lie. I gave five to my girl and I'm like, fuck you my plan B So you know I got ten now, Yeah, you gonna you make it happen with the girls ship, and I'm gonna make it happen over here with this little last keen shit. Feel me like it made happen and I made it half fifteen K to fifteen million man. I turned ten K up, take ten million man and shout out to my homeboy Low. Because my homeboy Low introduced me to Ryan.

And then when Ryan I got introduced to Ryan, Ryan felt like, Okay, this is this shit is attached to a celebrity. I can sell this shit to Tilly's. He had the relationship. Once Tilly's Big it was over. I was living right down the street North Hollywood on Fair You feel me like in the gallery, I was living right there, me and her trying and she was shipping off the floor. She was shipping off the floor. I was shipping off the floor. I had my little homie Andy,

he was shipping hats. You know what I'm saying. He was designer. At the time, I didn't have shit, you feel me. Then when I met that nigga and then we went to Tilly's, I got that check. My first a little check. It was crazy wild. I got a check nowadays, like if you get into Zoomies. Oh yeah, I know when cookies got into Zoomies. It changed their

whole business. Like it's over. It's like a wrap five thousand stores what and I'm selling this ship and y'all want accessories, backpacks, hats, socks, everything, not just only T shirts like they whatever that the shirts, all the hats because I feel like the hats were more popular. The hat's way more popular than anything. Yeah, the hats are has way more popular than anything. Yep. I don't miss the era and I'm not talking about just y'all where it was like animal print pockets on a black tea.

You remember that, Like here's a cheet of pocket on a black T shirt. Yeah, and here's a cheetah brim on a red hat. Everything. That shit was crazy. I will say this though, I give it to the cool kids. I think the cool kids originally brought the snap back ship back, but Tiger made a commercial like the retro starter hats. I give that to Tiger all day, like taking it to like mainstream. Well, I'll give it that ship to task Arnold. Task Arnold made that ship go.

He had a brand called Tisayah which Tiger would rock. He was rocking the Tisa hats was rocking the Teasa had was rocking ice cream and ship like that. And then you know, one day it will go like we need to do our own ship, you know, And then we kind of figured out. I got with this young nigga named Glenn you feel me, who ended up suing me too. The partner, right, you know what I'm saying, I got with this young nigga. Nigga might assume me again, I ain't seeing that that she is crazy. He was

a lawsuit. No, you don't understand, but it's all good what I'm saying. If he didn't win, I wouldn't be right here. Damn. I'm glad your ass one, nigga. But yeah, man, you know nigga sued me or whatever the case mayby. But it's it's all good, man. But we got out that ship. I forgot the fuck out for the sake. I remember what was I just saying, I don't know

this ship going crazy? Yeah, it's going crazy. What's like obviously with the at the end of the day going so well, your ship going so well, what are you doing anything outside of the content space. Uh No, I have a family channel. I've been having a family channel before I went to those YouTube But yeah, on YouTube, having a family channel named Heather and Terrell, my kids, me and her, we be doing it up on there.

But uh, as far as doing it up by myself, I probably do something with my girl, you know, a podcast, doing something with her, and then I'm gonna just stay at No Jumper. You know what I'm saying. I'm anna build a build there before I take my ship left. You feel me, I ain't. You know, everybody like bru you got the potential, you're doing it, ve get out of there, and I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying. I mean, it's not even been a year, right, it ain't.

It's gonna be a year on April six, so two more days it's gonna be a year. But yeah, I'm like, damn, I'm a loyal nigga. You feel me in and I ain't gonna let the you know, I ain't gonna let the cloud get to me. Like so, you know, I still got shipped to do and I should have got time to build and then I'll venture off. Is there any any situation where you can see yourself getting back into the music business. Uh fuck no, fuck these niggas and music. I'm not doing none of that shit. That

shit is crazy. I don't I just don't like the fakeness. I don't like being lied to. And it's just the music industry is just a bunch of motherfuckers line to each other all day and I ain't got time for it. You feel me like you say you're gonna do this, don't do it. Like you say you're gonna be here, don't be here, say you're gonna give me this money. Don't give you the money, like fuck nigga. Like and then at that time, I was taking a lot of

shit personal, you know, because of where I'm from. We just built on like loyalty and just be a man of your word. Like when motherfuckers wasn't doing that, I was burning a lot of bridges. If you was telling me one thing and you and then you didn't do it, nigga was on your ass. Nigga, you feel me like I used to be. I used to go hard. I used to go hard. I ain't even gonna lie, dog, it's just hard. Just shout out to this guy man,

banging Hoover, hanging out with the Kardashians. At a certain point, they don't even know who the fuck's at their family events. Fuck like like hold up, everybody had to research and thigga like, hold on this nigga you have over here? But I was a call. This was k What did you mean, Kylie? Like how much surgery had happened already? Wasn't was it? Like it was like at the beginning of like kind of like the lips And I don't know about no surgery she had, man, she I just

know she was always a cool young girl. Man. Did you always see the billionaire in her? Yep? Always see the money and nigga and the taste in her whole family. Man, her whole family just a real family oriented motherfuckers. Man and I and being around them is cool. They taught us a lot of shit, and they taught me a lot of shit. How to move, how to have your household well coordinated, Like these motherfuckers is moving scenic. Man.

I just love everything that they do on everything. Was like being around Kanye, because you know Kanye executive duce a gold album. Well, yeah, being around Kanye. Only been around Kanye this is crazy. I only been around Kanye like at the family like birthday parties and shit like that, so it's like only like a small talk, Hey what's up? And I don't know. T just never really brought me around Kanye. Maybe he felt me know I was embarrassing in the summer too crazy like I was. But the

children's birthday party, that makes sense. But that's not at the studio with Kanye. But come over and hang out with the fifteen year olds. Yeah, I mean that nigga crazy, but fuck it, you know what I'm saying. Listen, man, it's dope to see what you're doing. Go follow the show so on. I mean you guys drop every Wednesday, right every Wednesday, six o'clock. You found me live. Don't

worry about nothing. How many interviews now are you doing a week or is it just wherever I want to do well whatever, wherever I get in, where I fit in. You know what I'm saying, because he'd be doing interviews two, three, four a day for sure. So if it ain't no time slide, it's over for me. But whatever time I got open, I got somebody to fell it in. I'm doing it and I drop every Saturday. So you drop every Saturday, every Saturday, even though I know that's not

a cool conventional time for interview every Saturday. I drop an interview every Saturday. And then you and your wife how often you do the family thing? We try to do it like three times a week even though we be bullshitting though, but still check us out, man, Heather in too real? Is it hard? Being because like I'm on fucking no Jumper and I'm married as fuck, and I'm like, I couldn't be over here as much. Like you know, I'm over there the other day and the

chick who blew all the Phoenix Suns is there. I'm a Suns fan, so I naturally want to talk to this bitch. I'm like, yo, so you suck Devin Booker off, Tyler, you, Liz, let's go through the names I want to know. But like, I'm like, shit, I couldn't be over here often because there's so much. There's just a lot of well, I'm used to it, man. We got a women's clothing brand, you know, I'm saying, so RelA boutique. Man, y'all go check that out. But I'm also just you know, I'm

used to it. My girl, always having girls around. We got a women clothing store. We're just coming out the dressing room naked. She doing photo shoes. Girls coming out half naked and going on in that studio. Though they wipe the couches down, it's all'm the same. They wild doing that ship. I heard some camera guy got butt fingered or something on the on the ship. He's crazy, I've seen that ship. They were there. It was like, hey, no, Josh just showed me on the computer and he was

like watch this and I was like watch what. They was like, don't watch it, bro, And I'm like what And I'm like, brou why would you do that? Bro? And they kept the couch and they kept the couch. I'm like, did y'all sanitize it? Is he still filming for the Is the camera guy still there? They got fingered on the couch. But no, no no, no, he hell no, I knowing. I feel like that nigga worked for Patreon.

I like, if you if you do that, like you almost sign your resignation letters if you work there while we was there. Fuck no, he wouldn't last being quit what every day every Wednesday? You probably don't want to shoot it still from the fucking head. There it is Man t Real. I appreciate you, bro,