#161 - Philthy Rich

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Let's get this money, man, and let's get into this interview with Filthy rich Yo Bootleg cap Podcast special guests in here, one of my first guests on the show ever. He's officially back. Man first, Yeah, I think you were like in the first like six or seven episodes when we were doing the chairs in here, Filthy Riches here, what's up man, chilling chilling man in town for to day? You are in town for the day. Is this new jewel where you got? I don't know, I've been having

for a while. It's some serious change. You have serious one side of my boy WIFFI Wiffy made both of these. I was gonna say, like the actual links those diamonds are like those are those are serious? That's not no normal shit. I won't do nothing normal around here. Nothing normal. Man. You got the new album out, Motivation purses great title.

I do feel like you've probably been the source of motivation and inspiration for a lot of people in terms of just being an independent boss, being a businessman, being somebody who has done you know, when it comes to just longevity in the rap game, not a lot of people have longevity, and a lot of people can support themselves for the amount of time that you've been able

to do. So, you know, like you gotta know how to rap, hustle, rap, hustle, break that down doing like everything that comes around rap, if it's versus, if it's videos, if it's you know, different people endorse you. Like you got to know how to really get off your ass and get to it. Like a lot of people just be content and just sit back and you know, like, okay,

so really I kind of like I've seen Gym. One night we was out Jim Jones, okay, and he was like he had like three different shows, did like four verses in one night, Like one guy was like for ten, ten, twenty thousand. The other guy went over there and had like sety five hundred, Like he wasn't turning down nothing, just getting it, running it over there, not saying that he was doing the same amount of work for the for the lower but he wasn't turning down nothing. So

you got to get up and rap. Hustle. Yeah, I think like if you're independent and you know, there's definitely like there's a way to just super monetize what you're doing. And then you know, we're rapping, all types of different things come like Chelsea just hit me right now, a real bull woman to do something like a freestyle on the block and they supposed to be paying me for it or whatever. Then I just started doing the cameo thing to where you do all you go on cameo

and people can like yo if they want to. You even want to do a drop for you or like a happy birthday for So it's like so many different opportunities that rap bring to you that you can you know, hustle. Yeah. I think that a lot of artists leave money on the table. A lot of people because if you're just depending on I never wanted to do that at first, like the shout out stuff, right, I never did it. And one day I'm like, man, let me see, I think I made like three thousand and one cameo now cameo.

I just started talking about just off my own, Oh got you got your are you're talking about like if someone like says, hey, Phil, I want to pay you pay my shot out my store. And at first I never was doing that shit. Like I've seen a lot of rappers doing that shit through the pandemic. Boo's he be doing that ship. I'm like, man, let me see. Somebody was like, hey, man, I give you five hundred, post them the story for me my cash efter to me. He synth it and I posted. I'm like, oh there's

something here. Yeah, But I never they been asked me to do I give you two thousand to post me on your page. I'm like, hell, now you posted on my page. I just think that there's like a stigma that I think is probably like not accurate in terms of like, you know, I think there's certain artists that like that might not make sense for if you if you're like the Weekend or you're like but if you're an independent artist and you're should be doing it, you

should be running it out. Man, Listen that it was good lucky right now, and I already got like two of them already seen. Well, think about it. You just said you got, uh, what's the most amount of money you've gotten for a ig shout out on the story. Yeah, I just towist five hundred, So five hundred bucks. For people who don't know, five hundred dollars is if a million streams is four bands five hundred dollars, my math might be fucked up here. Five hundred bucks is is

that one hundred thousand streams? I don't know about this thing, but feel me like you got to do like a serious chunk of streams to make five hundred money, because I know when day may like like three g's just like on some back, I'm like, damn, you have to do it. By everybody coming to meeting, Well, you would have to do almost a million streams on a record to get that, to get that money, And that was

what people. It's really a matter of using the music, using the catalog to open up all this other revenue. At first, I started like at two fifty and then I went up to like five and then obviously using the wrap money, using all of that to just launch other businesses. Like we were just talking you breed dogs, about the dog, I did a breathing yesterday and today, h I got puppies. I be doing dog shows. They pay me to do dog shows. I host, judge all types of shit. But that come from being a rapper.

How long did have you been doing the dog the dog breeding. I think I got my first dog that I started doing the breathing with probably like just maybe five years ago. Serious money, man, serious money, Like it's a lot of responsibility. Yeah, I had, like I had

a whole kennel. I built the whole kennle. I spent like two fifty like the house the backyard, and I built there like like a house in the backyard, and that had like sloughs and eat inside of the house with the drains where they pissing ship and go down to the sewerd and wash out marble floor ac unit. How water heat dogs are living better than some dudes for sure, living better than a lot of people. Yeah. So I mean because I know it's a lot of

money involved, so you got to take good care of him. Yeah. No, with the dog thing, it's like like you said, you got to take good care of him. It's a messy it's a messy thing. You got to make sure, you know. Like I'll be trying to convince my wife. I'm like, babe, like you know, because we got the plug. It's the main objective though, it's the longevity We're gonna get this money. You will have to clean some dogs. Ship. I might have to drink off a dog, you know, every once

in a while. But when you stud your dogs, do you manually? I've never done it. You have to ask that question. Happens at the veat. That happens, so you take it to the vet. So my boy they do it, does it himself, and he says it's better than the VAT. I don't know how they do it. They take the female and they take the male. The male smells there. They do it right there and then they do it

like that. I've never done it. I never will do it. Yeah, because I mean, I guess, like whatever downside to like going to the vat, Like, to me, the real downside you just don't want to pay the money. Well, the real downside is jerking off your dog, Yeah too, but I just feel like, you know, it's always cutting corners with this shit, so it's like, right cool, instead of me paying the vet to do it and then they I've also seen people at home they take the seamen

and put it in the girl too. I've seen them, man I didn't win, swear and they put the dog to sleep in front who through the surgery in front of everything? Wit stop shot? So what kind of dogs are you doing? English? English bull dogs? Now, I've had two English bull dogs. My first English bulldogs really didn't have any health problems. My second one day, but I always would hear you know, I got my bulldogs like that. They always have health issues. They exotic, so that's why

you can't even breathe them like normally. Also, yeah, they also can't fuck like that can't swim. They can't. They can't fuck like listen, I've thrown my English bulldog into a pool. You swam. But with that being said, probably not the best idea, yeah, because they get tired, they have breathing problems, they have small trachyas. Sometimes they can't eat like bigger food. Gotta make the food soft and slobber a lot. Yeah, Well mine don't really slabber like mine. Listen,

I let him out running back in the case. They they they're good. I used to take my dog to the parliamentute heat too long. Yeah no, I have man rest in peace to my guy already gold. Yeah that's happened to my dog. But yeah, no, they they're very they're they're short of breath. That's I had one that was like I ain't never had one like him before. This guy he's chasing the basketball, jumping in the air.

He was. That's how my dog was. He was crazy, like I've never had an English woodog like him before. He was. He was different. What other like, uh, business ventures? Do you you know? You got your your your your emerged merch. I had a clothing I mean salon, but I ended up giving to my godmother because due to COVID, like people wasn't trying to come in and people weren't trying to work or whatever. So but I'm launched in again, but just online. Same thing. I had to clothing store,

same thing happened. So I'm just launching everything online. I still have a model company in the Bay Area, like ten females for like music video shit artists that want females and videos. And that came about because it was a lot of big rappers that used to come in town and called me like, hey man, some girls girls. Yeah, I'm like shit, I might as well just start doing like this. So put like ten females together, photo shoots, calendars,

they do fashion shows, video shoots. Everything that's good money. Hey, that's real shit, because that's the first thing, especially here like in la it happens all the time. Like I have someone come to l a, yo, I need some hods for my shooting. I'm like, bro, do I look like the whole guy? Like I'm fucking I'm married, brother, What you want from me? You know? Like but that's

like that that's good money. And that ship. And then my record label and I got a got like ten twelve artists and then my charity giving back what's the charity based around what's called filthy letther kids. So I've been doing that for like maybe like teen years. Dope and like toy drives, Christmas, thanksgiving, back to school. We didn't get celebrity basketball games in my neighborhood at the gym. Shit you name it. That's dope. Yeah, gotta stop the

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one thousand dollars. Let's get back to the interview. Would you ever a lot of artists are doing only fans management. I don't know what that is. It's like only fans management. They're only doing only fans manages. So like, uh, like Tiger, who else did we have up here? Who's doing that? Oh, Adam twenty two does it, but he's not a rapper, So blue Face blue Face perfectly. That's what so blue Face does is so he has like an OnlyFans but he don't fuck on there. He just it's like a

reality show. But then he manages girls. Tiger manages girls too, So essentially Tiger's on there fucking okay, But Tiger will have like a girl signed and to his agency and then he promotes them and then he gets a piece of their only fans. Adam twenty two is doing the same thing, okay. Adam twenty two said he's got like a top five earner on only fans that he gets a chunk of I'm like Jesus, it's like kind of like, so what is he like invested into her or is

he just promoting her? Promoting her? It's kind of like it feels like digital pimp remember remember the eight Bone I need to get into it, the MJG album Space age pimping. That feels like what they were talking about. They need to give my grills on my get the model, get them to get them, get the filthy models and get them all on only fans and just get your percentage.

Is only fans still popping out? I thought that shit was like it was supposed to go away, but they realized that if they did, if they got rid of the adult content, that their business would be over. And so it's still lit. Yeah, but they're not paying like they used to. Like take that. I don't think they think they take longer to pay out. Yeah that I don't know. But at the end of the day, and hear about it here and there, I was gonna doing

a long time ago. Not me on there fucking or nothing, but just like showing my lifestyle like just so much it had in my phone where they was like, oh, you got to get contracts from these girls and you gotta have them sign off on this, and you can't post that ship. Just like going out to the club. Bitch is dancing, tworking, fighting, It might be a threesome bitches or bitches might be fucking each other whatever. You know what I'm saying. You know what? You know what

I do? Uh DDG does who's a rapper. But he also he started as a YouTuber, so d d G on his only fans pretty much just a giveaway game. So he'll be like trying to teach you how to go viral on YouTube, like like Batman Kevo. Yeah exactly, shout out to him, similar to that. Yeah, they pretty much like you just go on there and like giving out gaming. Yeah, I feel you got a lot of game to give out, Yeah for sure, but you could sell it, yeah, sellers. You got to know how to

market it. You just gotta know how to market it. I mean marketed with some hosts to you know what I mean, figure it out. You got ten chicks. They're called the Filthy Models. That's teen Filthy ten Filthy team, Filthy Team Filthy. I like that. What was the name of the Do you remember the team of models that were based in Miami in the early twenty tens that were lit as fun Are you talking about something. Angels, tazzs angels, tazzas angels. That was what happened to that ship.

What happened to Taz. Did anybody ever see him? Yeah? I think so. I thought he was like incognito. I don't know, but I just remember everybody was all these like random ass chicks were moving about like the same thing, like somebody just had some females like model. Prior to only fans, imagine Tazz's angels be running it up on the internet. My sure goodness, he'd have been killing it. Man. That was way before. Only fans who got on the app.

You got ice wear Vessel on the project SETI Hendrix SETI Hendrix af and pays my artist tutor bands of Skinny t Rich the Kid dear my hit. I got to look and see do you pay for features at this point? No, it's all of that's. I feel like if someone that I feel like that would be the case. There's certain artists that like, I feel like it's got to be a respect thing. Yeah, for sure. For sure.

I have before in the back in the day when I didn't just trying to rap and hey man, I want to hear you on my song type shit and not knowing who you are, you not knowing who I am type shit. But you know that comes to say like that's being biased because you know niggas buy features for me all day. That's true. So yeah, I think it just also depends. Like if you got a deal on a Drake feature, you be like, yo, it's something different,

But at this point certain features worth paying for. Yeah, they end up being relationships later on and the features end up being you know, triple double whatever type shit. You know what I'm saying. So you it just all depends on how the ship, how it was handled. That's some real ship. Man, Who are you like right now just on some fan ship, like outside of your crew, your label? What is the music you're listening to that

you enjoy? I really just only listened to like all my artists are so many of them, you feel me? So we always uh critique and everything. I've been trying to like drop something every month from the label, like on some real master Peat type shit, like like a tape every week running it up. Yeah like that. So that's how what's this April March? It's about to be April, yeah, so we already said for April we're working on May now in June. So but other than that, like I listened, uh,

I've been listening to I was. I was real big on baby Money out of Detroit before you got de Troy is going crazy man, baby money hard. You know, I fuck with the whole Detroit sound right, Yeah, I feel like yeah, we always talk about it on the show, like how Detroit and the Bay has like a real connections honestly obviously dope game wise, you know all of that. You know what I'm saying, You know, I just I

love the culture. You know what I'm saying. I love the food, the strip clubs, the jury, the good money hustle. You feel me all that ship. You know, I really be out there so I can relate to that ship Detroit to vibe give don't get it twisted, don't twisted. So yeah, we gotta go to the Triple Change immediately. We gotta go to Detroit soon, and we're gonna be wherever.

Wherever the ship's popping off at is where we're gonna be at because we gotta go shoot with like three or four artists out there, like go see there where they grew up and ships. So we're gonna be in the in the thick of it. We was in. I was like stuck out there for like a week in the snow. I couldn't leave, like no flights, like the snows like oh wow, like blocking the doors. What area of the bay are you from? Oakland Seminary East Oakland? Yeah,

we were in. We were shooting some ship in Balletjole. I won't say with who, but uh, it was hot. Man. You won't say with who. No, I'm wonta say with with with which are just because it didn't work out. But we pulled up in the in the Crest right off the freeway SLB. No idea you said the Crest ship was hot. Let's just say sh it was hot. I mean the Bay hot period, just like Detroit, like Balao, Richmond, San Francisco, Oakland, all that ship turned up. Yeah Bay

right now. I feel like the Bay right now is kind of like nationally got a really bad rap because when we see a lot of the smash and grab ship, when we see a lot of the you know, homeless fools going up into the Walgreens and just filling their bag with ship and walking, it's all because you know, in San Francisco, Like I'll go there once a month, you know for Empire ship and the Walgreens like in

the city and the CBS is are closed them. Ships is just but I don't think it was like a bad rap, Like I feel like, well no, because I think in the city of San Francisco they got that law that they can't stop you and the cops will prosecute you or arrest you you if you shop lift

under one thousand dollars. So that's why. So all the petty staff ship, so you'll see all these dudes going in on their bikes just fucking rolling up in the fucking CBS did like a smash and grab out here for like they did at Beverly Hills five million or some shit. Yeah, that ship was crazy. Did you see the video? I just heard about it. Oh the videos crazy, Like yeah, I'm like, damn, he's doing that ship everywhere.

I was at the smash and grab ships everywhere. Was that a jeweler in Vegas and they told me that they just came in there and did that ship there too. That's where it kind of sucks, like if you're in California, like because you can't really like you know, some people pull some ship like that in Florida, they getting smoked by the owner. In California, you probably if you shoot the guy, you're probably gonna go to jail before he goes to It's crazy, like that's just the gun license ship,

the gun loass. And I think it's gonna I think it's gonna chill out man, in Cali because I feel like people are starting to realize. I think they was doing all that shit because like the like they was protesting, right, m hm, it was just protesting for some somebody somebody got killed or something. Well there was the George Floyd protest in June, or they were doing all that shit. Could of that too. Yeah, it's been crazy, man. Cali's

been a crazy place the last couple of years. And then Yo, So you know the one thing about the Bay too that everyone is that's synonymous with the Bay, right, it's bipping. Bipping is kind of like there's you'll go to the Bay and there's people who just leave all their windows down. Not even when you leave the window down, you know, like don't come through the window. But I'm saying they'll leave the windows down because they're like I'd rather you just come into my car and see there's

nothing in here. Then you break my fucking window and I have to replace it. Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah it actually happened to me, not to meet personally, but rock Nation had came to Oakland. They were trying to sign me and the guy had I had wanted to get something to eat and I told him like be cool like and they went up the street when got something to eat and like when they they walked in the store,

they hit the ship. It's crazy, crazy like but a lot of rappers though, like they come out there for Empire, they always get their ship hit, like a lot of rappers and they jury took out there and all type of ship. I think it's very easy to spot a rental car. I mean if you're in that profession. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

if you're in that profession. If you are, you know what a rental is just crazy because we we were just driving the other day with downtown Oakland were like, that's the Bippers right there and they's driving around in the cars just doing the circles. You could just you could just know that you know what they're doing. Yeah, it's pretty crazy, like was it? Because you know I feel like bipping in the bay is kind of like you know, niggas normal money off that it's just normal.

I feel like it's kind of like when we think of like people people like people get money in the streets. That's rich off that. That's what I'm saying, like crazy, like motherfuckersn't called me with all type of ship before, and I'd be like, a motherfucker left this in the car like who? It's almost like opening a fortune cookie, like who, you never know what you're going to get ship in their car? Like that's crazy. I would never leave this shit without saying, obviously, what's the craziest thing

you've heard? Someone getting out of someone's car? That's like, what the fuck? Someone left that two hundred thousand like faux five, watches, purses, all type of shit, like can you imagine leaving? I was like, damn, who the fuck is this? Like is this like owner or something? Someone left two hundred k in their car one thousand? I know some rappers from Prey and got ribbed too. And when I rib got bipped too for the jury, I got hit in Burbank. Someone followed me from the bank.

I stopped at a UPS to get something notarized, and I had fifteen bands under my seat cash and they took that ship. I was sick. Waitit wait they bipped the car. Yeah, but I don't understand why people leave shit like that in car. Well, bro, imagine I'm in Burbank. It don't matter. I'm keeping my shit on. So this is where I'm at. There's the UPS store. I park like right there, right, I'm in and out. You thought she was in it. They was in and out. I get on my true detective ship. I figure out that

they followed me from the Bank of America. So before I went to Bank of America, or after I went to Bank of America, I got gas, so I fucking paid the owner of the gas station to give me the footage to see the car that pulled in behind me and waited and followed me out. So I had like a steal of the kind of car. I fucking found their trash they threw away. They threw away McDonald's. I tried to get the plate number, but I could it was too blurry. Bro, I was all my ship

though I sent. I had a homie in Chattanooga who works at a CSI thing. I sent him to McDonald's trash from the fingerprint. I'm like, bro, because I'm thinking, like I'm gonna get this money back. I'm not gonna deal with the cops because they ain't gonna do shit. So I'm like, don't let me find out who these people are. It's bad for them, you know what I'm saying. And I just I was, man, I almost had these motherfuckers. Bro. I was so, oh, you ain't supposed to be Yeah,

never again. But I think though, if they followed you from did all that, then they probably was just on trying to bip you know what happened, That's what I'm saying. So that's a whole lot so once I couldn't figure it out. The cops they said that a lady followed me out of the bank. A lady was like she was like she kept like resetting herself on the line, because you remember during COVID the bank lines are crazy.

So the late there was a girl in the bank was just watching to see who was walking out with money, and then she followed me out. They got in the car and then followed me out. I didn't even really go to the line you call like order money and shit, like that yeah. Well, really what happened was I went there to get to open a business account, and I brought the money to open the account. We're supposed to open an account for a publishing company. But my writer,

who I was opening with, oh the bank money. So they're like, if he's going to be on the account, we can't give you the account. If I pull up with fifteen banks and I'm like, well, shit, I got all this money on me. Can I just deposit this into my account? She's like yeah, but you just gotta wait in the line. And I was like, man, fuck all this. Man, I like, I ain't waiting this fucking line. I fucking never again did that before too, but I'm

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how are you dealing with all that? Man? I ain't gonna It's been easy. You know. We just had f D weekend in Vegas. I have run out this big old mansion or whatever. It's like twenty one rooms in it. We got a lot of work done. A lot of artists came, producers, engineers, shot a lot of videos. It's been doing different little things like that to where I could like sit down and really be hands on with everything and you know, and explain how this should worked.

But it's really been easy to keep it real. It ain't been too hard, like probably just like one artist here and there. So yeah, no, I know, I just know because you know, I work with artists, and I know it could be a lot. Yeah, it can be. It can't be. But you know me, like, I've been doing this shit for so long, so I know how to like you know what I'm saying, like, and you're not doing it by yourself. You got you got a team, I'm sure, me and Chelsea. Yeah, shout out to Chelsea.

Me and Chelsea that's who you know who who helped me with everything, and also my caraman Seem Colux. That's dope. Yeah, they just did shout to Empire. The documentary that they did about you was it last year? It came out last year. Philip Beasley album. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that was dope to kind of just see like kind of behind the scenes, like different side of You. It was a lot more that we didn't use. I think we're gonna do another one, but yeah, I just did that. Like

I was kind of like transition. I was really trying to fall back on doing the music myself because I want to be able to give my artists in the label hundred percent. How many albums do you have in your catalog that are on Spotify right now? We lost count, Like, give me like a over one hundred, over one hundred. I think I dropped twelve tapes in like one year to see if I could do it, and those are all on the DSPs. Jesus man, those twelve that came up,

that was all on Empire. So I've been putting on music like oh wait, so when you have that much catalog, because you know, I always try to tell artists if you're gonna stay independent, Like a lot of time, artists overthink shit, yeah they never put music out, or they overthinking and they sit on their hands too long. It's like to me, I'm like, yo, run it up, because that's your residual income. What has been your biggest check off of your catalog in a month you've done off

of streams? If you don't mind, I don't want to be in your pots. Seventy five thousand. That's great, man, that's amazing. Seventy five thousand. And it came. I remember I first got my first five g's and then because I used to just put out just mixtapes, I used to just run my mixtapes through Empire. Before I was that Empire, I was dealing with urban life at right back, and I uhould just be twenty thirty fifty and then uh and then god, he starts seeing the numbers. It

was like, hey, we need to do an album. This before I even did this is the first album I deal with Empires in twenty sixteen. Real Niggas back in style. So it's like, hey, we need to do a single and then and then based the single round the album. This is before I did the album, like we need to, we need to, we need to get it going. So I made that single make a Living with Sue, and

then I finally did the album. Other than that, I was just running tape series some city money man's neighbor starts, just running through them, doing millions of views on the videos and all the type of shit. So shit. And I think also back then, like YouTube paid a lot more. Yeah,

the YouTube money was great back then. Yeah, it was a lot different because the other what was dope about back then was if you had a distribution deal, they didn't touch your YouTube money, so you were getting the YouTube bag over here and then the iTunes over here. But now it's all all combined into one, which I'm like, damn, because that YouTube money was great yea, so it paid way better than the streaming shit. So that's how that

used to work too. So I mean, you know, that's why I'm able to be you know, like I get paid twenty a show still to this day. You know what I'm saying, we're turning ten to fifteen a verse. That's big. So you go to a city post up. I'm in the city. If you got your bag right, come get the verse you No, I'll add this show in KC. Not too long ago. Shit, before I even got in the club, somebody was in the front waiting

to averse. So when I'm backing up, security like, hey, this guy right here and talk to you, like, what's up. I'm trying to do it verse, I'm like, okay, cool. He asked me the price, gave me the number. He didn't even go on the show. He left when you go get the bag together, told me to pull up on him when I was doing with the show. I ended up pulling up on him after I was done with the show. So manyo, I had a meet and greet that day the show the verse and then missed

me doing the verse with him. Someone else came and did a verse with him in a video all in one night, so I didn't get back to the room till like like six in the morning. Jesus just ran it up. Not all that should like that be Boosy be doing it ship like that, and you know just on the road is running that ship up type of ship yeah, Boozie is he don't get for sure, He's a real rap hustler, fucking rap hustling for real. Who's somebody who inspires you because you're such a boss you

do your entrepreneurial ship. But who's an artist or just someone in the game that's inspired you a lot that you get more from. I fuck with Meek Tough, I fuck with little Baby Tough Ross. I fuck with anybody. I fuck with anybody that's like, you know, aspiring. You

know what I'm saying. People I can relate to. People I can see you know that been through something and really you know, living a dream and and you know, happy where they are in life type ship, you know what I'm saying, taking care of their family, putting they niggas in position, you know what I'm saying, and just motivating them a person to go harder, you know what I'm saying, And never being content with it. That's what Like I don't even check my bank account. I will

not like, I will not look at it. Why because I don't want to know what. I don't want to know because I don't want to be content because if you see it, you might be like I could chill out. I don't want to do it, like you have someone checking your bank account for you. I have accounting the doing it now because and then every time something gets spent, it sends me a text I got you, But I don't never want to know what's in it to where I just be like, okay, I got five mill I

can just relax. No, I don't never like I get mad if something like I don't even check the receipt like oh yeah, I got they give me a receipt, I won't even look at it like they asked me to receet. I say, no, that's funny. Yeah, Like I don't want to be like, oh I could just sit back and do nothing right. I just feel like at that time being, if you do it, then somebody else can come in and take that spot. Like I always just want to work, keep working harder and harder and harder,

and never I figured out. I figured out, But I'm not just I won't do it. Uh. You obviously went through one of the more in my opinion, dope rap beefs recently because you guys kept it on our own record, are you and Masie? It was bothly. That was like three years ago, two years ago. I don't know that's how, but it was to me, it was like dope because it reminded me of, like, you know, just some ship that I grew up on, people keeping it up, putting

dope songs out. Yeah, because I feel like nowadays, man, like we saw King Vaughan, you know that ship with Kwondo. I don't think he had a rap beef with what That's what I'm saying. It wasn't even like that's the weirdest thing about out the Dirk and Young Boy thing. I'm like, you guys aren't even from the same city. I'm so confused. This is strictly some hip hop shit. I think that shit was like over a bitch or something,

But I just thought it was dope. That Like, I feel like you guys did that shit the right way because you guys have mutual homies. You guys got mutual business, and you guys had obviously a disagreement and it ended up on record and it was what it was and everyone moved on. Yeah for sure. You know me, I don't. I don't hold no grudges. I ain't mad at nobody, you know what I'm saying. Like I've been doing my thing.

Fel'm continued doing my thing, you know, So I don't wake up every day thinking about, you know, the past or anything else. I'd be focused on the future. It's a beautiful thing, man, when you like see some of these younger artists who you might fuck with. I feel like recently we've just seen so much bullshit going on in terms of just people keeping one foot in, one foot out on the rap shit. And you know, we see people losing their freedom pou shisty, we see people

losing their life. We see a lot so much going on, Like, like, what would be some advice you would give to some of those younger artists who maybe haven't I tell my artists all the time not to even make this record, not to even fall into the negativity, and understand it's come with the music game. Everybody not gonna like you. It's gonna be a lot of people from your past to remember or I remember he wasn't doing this. I remember he didn't have this like hater type shit. You

get what I'm saying. So it comes with it. You gotta have tough skin for it. And if you ain't ready for hate, you ain't ready for success. But then also you got to understand too when you when you coming from the hood or the trenches, and you give these kids money. I never had money before. And they also had this streat mentality, Like it's like they feel like they can't be touched and don't really care about the certain things that they should be worried about until

later on, you know what I'm saying. So that's like why I never choose to like pop ecstasy or appeals and shit like that, because a lot of people from my neighborhood used to get high and then they wake up not knowing what they did. Ter on in the interrogation room. Wow, you know what I'm saying, they'd be like,

what the fuck happened last night? So like, and I knew a lot of people from my neighborhood lost their mind like early, like like young dudes like twenty years old, like smoking crack now because he donet pop the bad ecstasy pill and fucked him off. And this was like a fly nigga that used to hoop and get good

grades in school, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, man, I don't never want to play with myself like that, you know what I'm saying, because I've seen how you know, just like how they doing it right now, how they pressing up the pills which they found the all type shit like that people dying like this was back then, Like you know what I'm saying, This was the heype movement days when Nigga's popping six exit pills losing their mind. You know what I'm saying, Like, hell nah, Like you

never got down with that, shiit? No? I never. I only think I ever did was smoke with you. Sip sirr? That was it? Do you still say it? Nah? I've been stopped alone time ago. Was that hard to stop? Because I know some people say it's pretty tough to get off? No, it wasn't hard. My whole thing I was. I was amusing, I was getting too high. It wasn't hard for when I kicked it. It was like I damned her, like not paying attention when I would be doing that. Damned there probably sip a brick in the day.

You know what I'm saying, because I used to. When I used to buy a pint. I used to have like the twenty ounce cream sodas and I pour like a four in there in each one of them, and I done drunk like four of them, and I'm fucked off, you know what I'm saying, not even knowing. I shoot a video. I actually I shot a video. Somebody came in town paid me for a verse in the video. I shot the video. I drunk one right here doing this scene. One at this scene, one at this scene,

one of this scene. That's the whole brick. Yo. That's crazy because I'm not even paying attention to what I'm doing it. So it's so good. But you know they say something that something that's that good, ain't that's too good for you? So when they I woke up, you know, I woke up fucked up one day and I was like, man, if I make it, man, I'm done. And I just

been done ever since. Damn. Yeah that's good man. Yeah, I feel like, you know, the lean thing is like I'll, like you said, it's something that people really enjoy, but it's also like it's like your body dependent on it, and it's just like if you're drinking a good ass soda and you just keep drinking that ship over and over and it's gonna keep drinking it, but you're not knowing that the sugar or whatever, the caffeine or whatever's fucking you up. You don't even realize it until Yeah,

that's real ship. You talked about the rock Nation ship. I remember hearing about that. I think I think you told me about it before. What what made you initially not want to sign shout out the rock Nation? Who's trying to sign you? Earl damn okay? Fuck with dang still to this day, and its not necessarily him is the one who who wanted what they wanted, but he was the one who brought the situation, you know, together.

But they just wanted to my past catalog and the masters and it's a super now and that's what the mind you just was right before COVID. So if I would have did that, I was just been paying them for nothing. So they wanted so they wanted to sign you, and then all your catalog they want to come bring

it over, and that's fucking crazy. And it was just saying like we're gonna build this and we're gonna tour with this person and all that and all that, and I was just like, I'm like, man, we can start from here, Like if you want to start from new music going for I can't do it back. Luckily I didn't, you know what I'm saying, And shout out to like I said, shout out to rock Nation for the opportunity. But they do a lot of artists like that, and they was naming off all the other artists that got

the same type of deals and this is and this. Yeah, but that's not that's not a good deal, not at all. And I don't know, especially not for independent artists that's been living off music to where now I gotta wait for y'all and I gotta get it's like, damn, y'all don't have nothing to do with these albums. Yeah, why would you add all that red tape right right right after that, I mean right after that pandemic, So it

wouldn't it wouldn't have been no shows, no nothing. I would have just been it would have been stuck because you can't just drop when you want now. No, not even that, Like the whole thing was they were going to put me on tour. I'm supposed to be doing this and doing that, but all that was shut down to the pandemic. So I wouldn't even getting no money. I should be giving you all money for free, thank god. That Yeah, yeah, you would have just been Yeah, where's

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the interview. Yeah, any artists, if you have catalog and you try to sign a deal, and now it's different if they just say we just want to distribute it, you know, because that's a different situation. But if they're like, no, bring bring your catalog over to our label, that I'd go, go fuck yourself. The short to understand too. So how I look at it as you know a lot of people that complain about the artists putting out too much music.

I'm not signed to a record label, so why would I not put out as much as you I can? Because that's where I get paid from. So it's a numbers game, man. Yeah, So if I'm getting paid whatever I'm getting paid off each album, why would I not keep dropping the numbers game? Like when you're on a major. They want you to drop an album, then tour a year, and then come back and dropped in because they putting

the money up before you and and everything else. Yeah, they can tell you what song they don't want on here, what picture they don't want. I done heard artists like, okay, they want me to sign over here, but they wanted me to take off my tattoos or cut my drade like that. They want to control you because they putting the money up, So they want you to look a certain way, they want you to wrap a certain way.

This is what they feel will work. I feel like artists nowadays are at least becoming more transparent and understanding that they might be in shitty deals inventing that. You know, like we've seen me, we've seen yg. We've seen a lot of people be like, yo, I didn't get no money off my music. Because what happens is you take the advance, and that has to if you take if you get a million, that's just an easy number to

work with. A million dollars on a major label, you're probably only owning seven to twelve percent of your user so much just to get that million back, because they go, you got to make that ship back over ten times before you recoup. It's like, bro, that's hard to do. So that's where all the other things and endorsements and everything else come in. That's what they're living off of

in the shows and shit. Yeah, but when that shit drives up, that's where you would see these artists during the pandemic like, man, fuck my label, I ain't see no money since. And then they get back trapping again, and then they get caught up. Nah. I think that's really what COVID did, was it made y'all realize, yo, know all these motherfuckers for the most part, you know, and these are good guys that fuck with a lot of them. But when you take that easy upfront check,

you're signing off on a lot of bullshit in that deal. Yeah, I mean you got to make that. Fuck it, make that given. Tell you a friend what they want back, and and I don't feel bad. And if you're not able to make that back, bro, I don't feel bad because you signed the fucking deal like you, we're talking grown ass men. You signed a contract like you either you needed the money, you don't took an advance before took advance. But it's different. I feel like it's it's

different splits. Yeah, it's different, but you can't sell your soul, you know what I'm saying. And it took an advance before, but I made mine back I recouped, So yeah, that's how it works. So now a lot of them take the advance. Imagine if you get off. Imagine if you only get eight percent, how hard it is to recoup that. Now, if you do like a distro situation and you got an eighty, twenty, sixty, forty, ninety ten, whatever, it's a

lot easier to recoup. But if you have eight percent out of one hundred, that means ninety two pennies of every dollar goes into the labor's pocket and only eight cents And you don't get the eight That eight cents goes towards your balance that you oh, that you oh even go in your pocket. It does not go on your pocket. You gotta fuck forever to pay that shit up forever. You gotta be fucking the weekend or somebody,

you know what I mean. You gotta be drake like you know what I mean, Like it's like good luck, you know, I don't think people understand like when you look at you know i'd be looking at people's numbers except be like, Okay, if he did twenty million streams times twenty times four thousand, I mean shit, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, that's cool money, you know what I mean. But like you know, like how are you? What's your overhead? What's your overhead? A lot

of these you gotta understand too. A lot of these rappers like that's all they ever did was rap, so they don't have many really other hustles or whatever. So like if they get that money and fuck that money off, it's over. And it happens more often than not, especially your first deal. Most people's first deal is all bad. Go buy chains, call, bring all the homies on the road, all of all the drugs, all this shit. Man, you

are you pretty? Like you? Do you travel deeper? Like did you move around with a lot of people or like like home or are you talking about like out of town? Let's say you out of town. Like for my writer, it's like four rooms and five flights. That's not bad. Yeah, that's not bad. I recently tried to book an artist for a show or for a club, and they wanted fifteen flights, and I was like, well, this isn't gonna work. Guys. You know I've seen some shit like that. I got booked for a show with

the artist before, and that niggashit was crazy. It was like he wanted twenty five chicken wings, fifty lobster tails. He wanted like some crazy shit. Didn't even eat none of it. That's how it came and came there and counted it like he came to the He came there and counted this shit like I didn't book him. I was on the show with him, but the guy was

telling me, like his writer, how crazy shit was. But you know, if you the promoter, you agree to I could say, hey, I won't five Latina women in the room, but as naked rolling blunts for me, and I won't a gallon of a gallon of Eminem's all green. And if you agree to it, you gotta provide to provide it. That's real up to you. There it is, man, all right, Well, look the album is out motivational purposes. Uh talk about the April slate of your artist that you got dropping

so April first, I'm Friday. Next Friday, we got to the bands dropping HBO two. I met him nice guy, Funny Guy, Skinny te just drop, just bangs, just drive. We got Loso, we got a little Steve, we got a little Tray, we got Rascal Fetti. He just dropped you know, we got my nephew, he twelve years old, Jay Money. Oh ship, Yeah, he just dropped the t Are you helping him? Right? No? He writes his own ship. Everything is got videos, he do everything and so he

he went of a cond that's fucking that's lit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're just working man. We just I'm about to drop a fo D compilation album on May knife. It's called The Infrastructure fifty Rich Presents fo D. So I like that. That's the next big move for everybody. Got the whole label on there. So and then from there we just just pushing out tapes. I think Skinny and Steve, I mean, Skinny and Steve got an album coming out, Stuck on Seminary for Tutor and Skinny got album coming out.

Cardiers and Rolexus we got wiped out the Sacramento. He the next thing up by the sack. Shout out the sack, Yeah for sure, shouts a Stockton too stockings. Yeah right now short with the e V k movement. Yeah, yeah, we got we got slowly on the album too, on the FOD infrastructure. So uh, lots at a lot of good lots. It's gonna be a busy year. Yeah, it's never not a busy year for you. Got to man, your calmest year in the last ten years where you were like like where you put out the least amount

of music maybe last year. Last year it was like two tapes, maybe three, No, it was three. It was a it was a Philip Beasley and I had a group album with Tutor and then solidified, So it was only three tapes that year. Most people can't get three tapes out in their whole career. So other than that, everything else been turned up there it is, Man, appreciate you pulling up coming through your motivational purpose. Make sure y'all go get you an English bulldog, English Bulldog Real

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